So the moral is the white hero is unable to fix the problem quickly and easily because he has to constantly babysit incompetent brown people?
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So the moral is the [spoiler]white hero is unable to fix the problem quickly and easily because he has to constantly babysit incompetent brown people?...
I thought the moral was you can't change the past?
...Wait, no, the villain does that. Well shit.
The moral of the story is thinking the chinese market doesn't matter is fricking suicidal
Top Gun's suceeding in spite of failing to please the Chinese Market.
That's because Top Gun Maverick is actually a good film. I think the focus on more practical work is a large part of that.
It hasn't been banned (yet, a fricking taiwanese patch might be enough to anger Lord Pooh)
No that moral is making movies so expensive you require the Chinese market spells disaster.
China's blocking all Disney's films to boost their own market right now. So yes, China's a completely moot point.
Chinapandering is dead in cinema that isn't produced there.
>Chinapandering is dead in cinema that isn't produced there
Good. Trying to appeal to China has been the biggest contributor to the decline of modern movies.
It destroyed our manufacturing base and compromised our politicians as well
I hate China.
Yeah but now it'll be trying to appeal to minorities that will be the problem. Which given they don't need to appeal to China means they can ramp that up.
>The moral of the story is thinking the chinese market doesn't matter is fricking suicidal
Wrong. they are deliberately willing to lose money from the cinema because in the end they still don't lose, because their mainstay is to make people watch it go to Disney+
All I read here is: "Coping, justifying, explaining why our woke product failed again!"
Nahh, From the audience's pov, at the end everything that is banned can be watched through streaming platforms legally as well. It's a middle finger to the censorship by the government.(Indonesia, Malaysia, China, etc)
>being censored is a middle finger to censorship
??? How?
>please ignore how china is in fact right wing if it's censoring gay stuff
>do not question what communism is
>do not read karl marx
>keep talking about idpol
they are not right wing
they are killing and torturing their own people with the fake virus.
you couldn't quote 5 key points from any Marxist literature
Why not make a good movie that makes good money in theaters and then even more money in Disney plus? Why are they shooting themselves in the knee if this is the logic?
would have been great if they didn't say the word 'Queerfolk"
I thought the moral was to not frick your mom so that none of the events in the movie would've happen
It's that humans are useless and should be replaced with robots
But then you wouldn't exist
The moral is if you put black lesbians in it parents aren't going to let their kids watch it.
The opening text states that the film is supposed to have been released in 1995, yet does not capture that era of film at all. If they wanted to go for that the film's colour pallet would have been tan and blue/silver. There would be no lesbian subplot. Buzz's best friend would definitely be black, but probably have been a guy, the grand kid would have been a chick and would have been in love, or at least had a crush on Buzz and they would have had one kiss at the end. Or it would have been more like Buzz acting as a father figure. Mo and Darby would have been one character, and played by Rob Schneider.
I miss the 90s
The 90s truly were the last great decade for western civilisation. 9/11 kinda screwed everything up globally because the US went nuts, dragged the rest of the world into their bullshit, and now we live in an age defined by paranoia and hopelessness. At least least in the 90s that grunge-era apathy was balanced by the desire to improve things. Now everyone just wants to wallow in their despair.
9/11 was fine, its the Iraq war 2: Electric Boogaloo when everything went breasts up. If Saddam wasnt removed, He'd have Central Asia locked down or at least focused on him.
>9/11 was fine
Aside from the whole psychological scarring that went on in the US. Which is as much a product of the government and media telling the US how scarred you are, rather than the actual event. The towers should have just been rebuilt, if not to tell people that terror doesn't win, then just to restore the best Manhattan skyline.
But then people might get over it! We need endless war! Money Money Money Money!!!
>We need endless war! Money Money Money Money!!!
Which is sad. Just think how much money and war is to be had among the stars. I'm tired of us squabbling amongst ourselves over minutia. We should be striving to make the Terran empire a reality, colonising worlds, conquering alien races and subjugating them.
Sure frick it why not.
9/11 was absolutely an inside job. 9/11 was specifically to make money in the war industry, securities industry, private prison industry, lobbyists, the fascist Likud party, and hundreds of other organizations. the capitalists needed it because the cold war was over and if people started realizing what marxism actually is, the wars would stop. peace is bad for business
Eh it that's true they won a long time ago. It doesn't matter anyways, we're all fricked.
>it doesn't matter
i continue to see this fallacy from liberals that don't want to talk about the truth and help raise awareness among the rest of the population on what false flags look like or to raise skepticism of authority. if you were really apathetic you wouldn't even bother communicating with people. stop sounding like a shill
I'm just burning time dude. Not sure what you think you're accomplishing on a Taiwanese hedge trimming forum.
you're doubling down is what you're doing
on a forum
Double what now? On what man I'm half asleep?
>i don't care
> i want to go to sleep
Yep that's some typical schizo shit. Welp hope you get some help, I'm going to sleep.
>Mo and Darby would have been one character, and played by Rob Schneider.
So, Demolition Man?
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>So, Demolition Man?
Or Judge Dredd. Either way I'd be happy. But seriously how good is Demolition Man? Peak Sly, peak Snipes, Peak hotness Bullock, good message about how "peace is good, but don't be a pussy about it or you let evil douchebags control you."
>The moral is if you put black lesbians in it parents aren't going to let their kids watch it.
This. I know people who aren't going to see it because they don't want to explain two women kissing to their kids.
Lmfao what pussies.
So they should give in to the LGBTQIA2+ agenda?
>agenda
It's not inaccurate to call it an agenda.
Mom let Andy watch it.
Why couldn't they just make a fun space adventure instead of this depressing crap
Doug is beyond Redpills
I don't get it.
blacks*
They weren't all black, one was a kiwi, and the other was Hispanic I think.
The Hispanic veterana made me chuckle hard because I had an aunt just like her.
Pixar should make a Yin Yang Yo Movie. That will make them tons of money
also a thief and cobbler movie
>alright people, we need a gay scene
>can it be two men kissing?
>haha no that's too gay
>what about two fathers with a child?
>ew no haha
>two lesbians with a kid?
>PERFECT
This.
I'll actually respect the gay pandering once they have the balls to do it with gay men.
Disney has lesbians kiss in Star Wars and Lightyear (which are shot in a way that can easily be edited out) because that's socially acceptable and seen as "hot", but all gay men get is talking about being gay in vague way like that dude from the begining of Endgame (of course which will also be edited out in overseas showings)
>Disney has lesbians kiss in Star Wars and Lightyear
I don't remember if there was a kidd but America Chavez's parents were two woman also. LOL even gay men are getting fricked over by woke shit there really is a progressive stack
>make them black, get all the woke points at once!
>"Quick someone get me Blizzard's minority point chart, that seems like a good idea!"
I'd imagine the lesbians were a fresh idea in Andy's world where this movie premiered in 1995.
They didn't even have the decency of having one of them be an alien
>Wahhh Brown people suck amiright
shut the frick up you whiny homosexual
You will never be black
and you will never be untriggered
Get some new fricking hobbies, you chodes.
Why did they interpret his chad jaw as just looking like he's got and overweight guy's face?
> only has humans
>cartoon had aliens
>movie reference aliens in buzz universe
not going to watch it
>not going to watch it
Don't, it's not even bad, it's just mediocre. I didn't even have a problem with the lesbian subplot because it's so unimportant to the plot that I barely remember anything about it other than it exists. I genuinely can't remember if there was even a kiss or not. What annoyed me more was that the plot felt like it was being needlessly padded out, entirely by Taika Watiti's character being a bumbling moron.
>mediocre
speaking of which, instead of lightyear i saw the jurassic park movie. it was also mediocre to bad
God Taika Watiti's character made me annoyed watching him.
So he played himself?
I get that they were trying to have the characters face challenges along the way, but having him be just a bumbling idiot that constantly waylaid them was infuriating. That whole scene where they were getting the capacitor and he gets them trapped in the security cones, and then the building starts collapsing was completely pointless. And they thought having his suit have a pen was a big character arc? A better plan would have been to have the robot he hit with a harpoon actually do something, like instead of security cones they realise the robot followed them into the building and they had to keep it from getting in while Mo disassembled the console because he knew what he was looking for. So his whole thing is that he's a terrible shot, but really good with tech stuff.
They really needed work on the support characters, because they were all basically the same with surface level differences.
It should have been, Izzy - extremely self-conscious because she's a Hawthorne and keeps relying on other people to fix the problems she encounters because she doesn't think she can do anything (making her a good mirror for Buzz who is over-confident and keeps going it alone).
Mo - Completely inept when it comes to anything combat and was there waiting to wash out, but discovers he is really good with tech and tactics.
Darby - They were the only good support character besides Sox, but they should have gone further with it, like they are truly obsessed with weapons and have an encyclopedic knowledge of Star Command's arsenal, but maybe put in something like the weapons all have fingerprint recognition and so Darby isn't actually allowed to use any of the weapons as part of the parole, so they keep having to get other characters to use them. Which would make for a good dynamic between Darby and Mo, one isn't allowed to use the guns, and the other is a terrible shot, but they work together to improve.
This movie feels like proof that people who use Cinemaphile are inordinately affected by different angles of marketing and media blitzes than the actual content they're supposedly watching/enjoying/mocking.
Nah, people on Cinemaphile are just more inclined to hyperbole for the sake of shitposting. I seriously doubt there is anyone on this board who genuinely cares about Lightyear's lesbian subplot, or even the film itself to any real extent.
The general consensus minus the lesbian shitposting that it's kind of dull, especially for something starring Bizz Lightyear.
>The general consensus minus the lesbian shitposting that it's kind of dull, especially for something starring Bizz Lightyear.
That was my take away. That and the Zurg twist being really stupid, especially for any sequel potential.
Not really but theres enough of us that knows how to call bullshit some bullshit when they see it.
When it comes to corporations and governments we all know pandering always has ulterior motives attached.
You could have said that a decade ago, but post-2016 Cinemaphile is unironic in its schizophrenia.
I think the world has become unironic in its schizophrenia.
I'm more bewildered by the fact that Buzz and Zurg are the same person but from different periods in time.
I'm bewildered anyone thought it was a good idea.