I dunno maybe
The little blob guy learnt that enjoying the small parts of life is nice and the nog learnt that titles are meaningless and life goes on even once he becomes a professional musician
I got the whole thing about enjoying the little things life gives us, and I agree to some degree, but you can't put it as your "philosophy of life". You still have to do something, and there's no bigger dopamine rush than being the best at something
Are you the same anon that b***hed about Monster's University?
99% of people will never be 'the best ever' at something. Most people won't even be in the top 10%. I think it's important lesson to teach kids that yeah, you're probably not that special actually and that's not really a bad thing. Just try to appreciate life and live a good thing.
That's something that was understood better in the old days.
>and there's no bigger dopamine rush than being the best at something
Someone who is the best always has competition and is always at risk of being beaten. If you become the best out of passion, you'll cement your place in history without even trying. If your goal is to become the best for the sake of being the best, you're going to live a very stressful life where you're in constant competing mode and every little loss will physically hurt and cause major depression episodes.
Life is all about paying it forward, not being the best. You do things so you can influence other people's lives. You adopt a cat so you can give it a good life or you participate in a school bake-off with your kid so they can raise a couple hundred for some books. Even just going around leaving comments on random YouTube video essays that have double digit views is going to make somebody happy. It's the small interactions over the course of decades that matter.
I guarantee you that most people who are known for that "one big thing" have decades of misery behind it. Look at fricking Michael Jackson-- would you REALLY make a deal with the devil to have an amazing legacy but in exchange your life is fricking horrible and you barely know what happiness is?
>would you REALLY make a deal with the devil to have an amazing legacy but in exchange your life is fricking horrible and you barely know what happiness is?
A lot of people would.
Felt like the writer coping with finally getting his dream job at Pixar only to realize it wasn't as fantastical as he'd imagined it.
If anything I think that makes the story more real and better tbh.
>If anything I think that makes the story more real and better tbh
Meh. I'm getting increasingly tired of these Pixar movies that just feel like some guy working out his particular personal issues on screen. Such a thing can have creative merit, sure, but just pouring your guts out all over the audience doesn't necessarily make for a good or entertaining film.
I watched this once, so bare with me if I'm wrong:
Wasn't the MC a horrible, horrible person? Like sociopathically horrible for 90% of the movie with an 11th hour turnaround only because he got attached to the errant soul?
I mean, if you're doomed to be merely sufficient, you might as well enjoy it. That isn't really the case, but only being satisfied because you have or did X makes your life a checklist instead of an experience. Besides, what happens if the thing you value yourself is taken away? It's admirable to achieve great things, but without becoming an admirable person as well, you just become a washed-up douchebag angry nobody remembers them.
Even Napoleon turned into a relative sadsack on his retirement island, and he was arguably one of the most accomplished men in history.
Sometimes the little things do matter, and you have to appreciate things the way they are.
You are never going to achieve everything you want in life. There's always something more, something just over the horizon. So being able to enjoy what you have is vital.
but he wasn't ungrateful of the things he had. He just wanted to play and getting a gig was just the first step. He was wasting his time trying to teach morons who did not want play, maybe those disinterested kids are the product of said mentality, having no real interest on anything and be happy just by watching fricking trees
>He was wasting his time trying to teach morons who did not want play
He influenced at least one kid who would go on to become a successful drummer playing alongside famous Jazz musicians. He was able to change the future for one person, there might have been others we just didn't see. Do you think teaching and inspiration is not worth it if you have a 5% success rate?
dreams can look a lot different once you actually get close to them lot of people that look like winners would take a second chance in a heart beat if they could.
concerts are a big money maker for musicians but most of those guys get one good set and just tour that continuously so if endless bus rides and partying end up too much for you it is not a happy life.
Society celebrates mediocrity. Cripes, we put on "graduation" ceremonies to kids leaving kindergarten. No longer use grade letters so that moronic kids and teens don't feel substandard.
You're an idiot. Your examples are literally showing the opposite where we want everyone to think they're amazing and special instead of teaching them that they're just like everyone else and not special
>Cripes, we put on "graduation" ceremonies to kids leaving kindergarten.
Literally nothing wrong with encouraging kids at a very young age that school is an obstacle they can tackle since they have 12 more fricking years of it to slog through.
I, as a 32 year old, remember kindergarten graduation being a thing when I was little and even being told that "kindergartners have graduation but then you just move up a grade until high school" as if it was already a common thing. So you're complaining about something that's been around for decades now. And it's basically just an excuse for parents to make a big deal with their kids for fun.
I haven't seen Soul but this sounds similar to Buzz's journey in Toy Story >Buzz comes into the world thinking he's a real space ranger and has to defeat Emporer Zurg >He finds out that he's a mass produced toy and doesn't have a bigger meaning in the universe >Buzz learns that life is worth living with the people you care about (Woody, Andy, etc)
The point is that life won't be a constant burst of joy after you achieved what you wanted.
I believe the "appreciate the small things" message is bullshit, but I still think the movie had interesting character development regardless.
I dunno maybe
The little blob guy learnt that enjoying the small parts of life is nice and the nog learnt that titles are meaningless and life goes on even once he becomes a professional musician
I got the whole thing about enjoying the little things life gives us, and I agree to some degree, but you can't put it as your "philosophy of life". You still have to do something, and there's no bigger dopamine rush than being the best at something
nop, haven't even watched it
99% of people will never be 'the best ever' at something. Most people won't even be in the top 10%. I think it's important lesson to teach kids that yeah, you're probably not that special actually and that's not really a bad thing. Just try to appreciate life and live a good thing.
That's something that was understood better in the old days.
>and there's no bigger dopamine rush than being the best at something
Someone who is the best always has competition and is always at risk of being beaten. If you become the best out of passion, you'll cement your place in history without even trying. If your goal is to become the best for the sake of being the best, you're going to live a very stressful life where you're in constant competing mode and every little loss will physically hurt and cause major depression episodes.
Life is all about paying it forward, not being the best. You do things so you can influence other people's lives. You adopt a cat so you can give it a good life or you participate in a school bake-off with your kid so they can raise a couple hundred for some books. Even just going around leaving comments on random YouTube video essays that have double digit views is going to make somebody happy. It's the small interactions over the course of decades that matter.
I guarantee you that most people who are known for that "one big thing" have decades of misery behind it. Look at fricking Michael Jackson-- would you REALLY make a deal with the devil to have an amazing legacy but in exchange your life is fricking horrible and you barely know what happiness is?
>would you REALLY make a deal with the devil to have an amazing legacy but in exchange your life is fricking horrible and you barely know what happiness is?
A lot of people would.
If anything I think that makes the story more real and better tbh.
>If anything I think that makes the story more real and better tbh
Meh. I'm getting increasingly tired of these Pixar movies that just feel like some guy working out his particular personal issues on screen. Such a thing can have creative merit, sure, but just pouring your guts out all over the audience doesn't necessarily make for a good or entertaining film.
It's not just Pixar movies.
>Blob was seen falling towards China
>born a girl
>Immediately disposed of.
Toward Mongolia.
India.
Are you the same anon that b***hed about Monster's University?
I watched this once, so bare with me if I'm wrong:
Wasn't the MC a horrible, horrible person? Like sociopathically horrible for 90% of the movie with an 11th hour turnaround only because he got attached to the errant soul?
I'd say selfish in a sense that most could understand. Wanting to find meaning in their work and focusing hard on getting it.
Though he missed the impact he had in at least two students finding a love of music through his teaching.
He never sees that as valuable as well as filling a dream to perform. He's sadly dismissive of his role in shaping future musicians.
What did he do wrong?
I mean, if you're doomed to be merely sufficient, you might as well enjoy it. That isn't really the case, but only being satisfied because you have or did X makes your life a checklist instead of an experience. Besides, what happens if the thing you value yourself is taken away? It's admirable to achieve great things, but without becoming an admirable person as well, you just become a washed-up douchebag angry nobody remembers them.
Even Napoleon turned into a relative sadsack on his retirement island, and he was arguably one of the most accomplished men in history.
Sometimes the little things do matter, and you have to appreciate things the way they are.
You are never going to achieve everything you want in life. There's always something more, something just over the horizon. So being able to enjoy what you have is vital.
but he wasn't ungrateful of the things he had. He just wanted to play and getting a gig was just the first step. He was wasting his time trying to teach morons who did not want play, maybe those disinterested kids are the product of said mentality, having no real interest on anything and be happy just by watching fricking trees
>He was wasting his time trying to teach morons who did not want play
He influenced at least one kid who would go on to become a successful drummer playing alongside famous Jazz musicians. He was able to change the future for one person, there might have been others we just didn't see. Do you think teaching and inspiration is not worth it if you have a 5% success rate?
It's ok to bee yourself.
dreams can look a lot different once you actually get close to them lot of people that look like winners would take a second chance in a heart beat if they could.
concerts are a big money maker for musicians but most of those guys get one good set and just tour that continuously so if endless bus rides and partying end up too much for you it is not a happy life.
It IS ok to be mediocre. Exceptionalism is a delusion of grandeur that narcissists and egotists constantly fool themselves with.
Reminder that the story was actually about 22.
Society celebrates mediocrity. Cripes, we put on "graduation" ceremonies to kids leaving kindergarten. No longer use grade letters so that moronic kids and teens don't feel substandard.
You're an idiot. Your examples are literally showing the opposite where we want everyone to think they're amazing and special instead of teaching them that they're just like everyone else and not special
>Cripes, we put on "graduation" ceremonies to kids leaving kindergarten.
Literally nothing wrong with encouraging kids at a very young age that school is an obstacle they can tackle since they have 12 more fricking years of it to slog through.
I, as a 32 year old, remember kindergarten graduation being a thing when I was little and even being told that "kindergartners have graduation but then you just move up a grade until high school" as if it was already a common thing. So you're complaining about something that's been around for decades now. And it's basically just an excuse for parents to make a big deal with their kids for fun.
I haven't seen Soul but this sounds similar to Buzz's journey in Toy Story
>Buzz comes into the world thinking he's a real space ranger and has to defeat Emporer Zurg
>He finds out that he's a mass produced toy and doesn't have a bigger meaning in the universe
>Buzz learns that life is worth living with the people you care about (Woody, Andy, etc)
The point is that life won't be a constant burst of joy after you achieved what you wanted.
I believe the "appreciate the small things" message is bullshit, but I still think the movie had interesting character development regardless.
>I believe the "appreciate the small things" message is bullshit
How so
>yay this tree is nice, now back to [soul crushing thing]
and I don't even get to have that many nice small things anyway
As opposed to what? Doing soul crushing things without anything to look forward to or enjoy?
It doesn't work in this compensation logic. A good thing won't magically cancel the effects of something shitty.
I think you're missing the point
Felt like the writer coping with finally getting his dream job at Pixar only to realize it wasn't as fantastical as he'd imagined it.
If you focus too hard at something you'll just die.
Reason to live ≠ purpose
This reminds me of the moron that though the Princess and the Frog was working hard.