So the new Captain Krakoa is Captain Hydra/Stevil from Secret Empire, right?

So the new Captain Krakoa is Captain Hydra/Stevil from Secret Empire, right?

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can be William Burnside.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I doubt Duggan knows who Burnside is, besides UA makes a load of references to Secret Empire so stevil is still more likely

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Or Nuke.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think Nuke is smart enough to pull off this kind of subterfuge.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      The problem with this theory is that Cyclops saw Captain Krakoa's face and didn't recognize him, so it can't be someone with Steve Rogers' face.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Selene fricked up Stevil and burned out his eyes when she "killed" him, so he might have scars around on the upper half of his gace making him unrecognizable.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well, Burnside I believe got all that plastic surgery removed so he wouldn't look like Steve Rogers anymore

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    What comic is he going to be in?

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought Hydra Steve was unceremoniously killed off a while ago.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      He got his face melted and that was it. I don't know if anything past that was shown.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      So? This is comics. Doctor Stasis and MODOK could have easily brought him back to life with science bullshit.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      huh? I thought he got jailed out from prison by HYDRA double agents at the end of Secret Empire? or at least infiltrated by them to watch over him while he's in jail.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Since when does THAT stop anyone?

      I don't even remember how hydracap ended. Just weird cosmic cube shit.

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    If they are bringing Hydra Steve back, then omega isn't behind orchis, is someone who really had a bone to pick against the avengers, x-men and also the likes of hulk and spider man.
    The problem is, who is it that salty?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anon you're giving them way too much credit, I'm gonna tell you the same thing I said in the Spiderthread. There is nobody bigger behind Orchis they're just doing the DoFP thing where the mutant haters also target regular Supers too

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        if it is that, then ol Mold Master is back and none of the morons have discovered yet

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      If Captain Krakoa is Hydra Cap, it's not a grander scheme. UA #1 showed that it was MODAK's idea to use Hydra Cap so he probably found out where he was being held in stasis and suggested using him.

      But I doubt it's Hydra Cap. If they are going deep cuts, and given the piss poor representation of Avengers on the team, it's probably Eric Masterson IE 90s Thor. Thor was a major part of previous Unity Squad rosters and Masterson was super popular, unlike the reviled Whor.

      Or it's Hobgoblin like that one leaker said and Queen Goblin brainwashed him into putting himself into stasis after fricking over Ned Leeds like he did and after telling Kraven what she did to him over pillow talk, Kraven sold the location to MODOK/ORCHIS for a quick buck.

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like redhead, so my bet is that's Luke cage. It won't matter that we can see his chin

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you moronic? That's not hair. That's foliage.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Red foliage

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is Captain Hydra playing his own game? Dude pretended to follow the Red Skull only to pull a Starscream and take over Hydra, and pretended to be a loyal American in charge of SHIELD so he could take over America.
    I can't imagine he'd be satisfied with just doing false flag operations to make mutants look bad, he must have a bigger endgame.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      If he does come back I hope they make him not be such a jobber. He easily takes over America and plays everyone then during Secret Empire he gets betrayed by everyone and beaten by a weaker version of him. Then he gets fricked up and that's all we see of him.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and beaten by a weaker version of him.
        To be fair, Steve had Mjolnir.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          They're both physically and mentally the same, one's just evil and the other one isn't, but he had a suit of powered armor with the Cosmic Cube as a power source and was shown warping reality to show off how OP it was, Mjolnir isn't shit compared to that, just a lazy way to resolve the whole shitshow.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            But we all know Stevil is the real cap fricked over for a bit and left to rot in his evil to make a point. That nothing good last forever.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              They retconned stevil as the real cap.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. They hard retconned the real Cap being stuck in the cosmic cube/Kubick and then had Waid go further in his "history of the marvel universe" mini into saying that Hydra Cap was a random evil Cap that was grabbed from a parallel earth and inserted into the real Cap's place while the real Cap was trapped in the cosmic cube.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                marvel was fine with it and defended it until papa disney saw what was going on its funny, its just like how big hero 6 isn't a marvel ip anymore because Disney didn't like the big hero six mini marvel was working on to coinicde with the film.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          After the huge backlash hydra cap got, Disney demanded marvel state that the real cap is returning and probably had them change the ending due to all the bad press. Marvel was so mismanaged that as of last year disney took over all day to day opperations

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >If he does come back I hope they make him not be such a jobber.
        He's teamed up with Blob and Wildside. Of course he's going to be a jobber.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Blob and Wildside are just patsies to make the new Brotherhood of Evil Mutants look worse in the media.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          For what it's worth, Blob and Wildside are considered A-List (Blob) and B-List (Wildside was a Liefeld creation and was the member of the MLF Liefeld loved to use the most, alonside Forearm, Zero, and Reaper).

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm confused. I thought evil Captain America was normal Captain America just brainwashed by a cosmic cube into thinking he'd been raised by Hydra. Wasn't that part of the run?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      See

      After the huge backlash hydra cap got, Disney demanded marvel state that the real cap is returning and probably had them change the ending due to all the bad press. Marvel was so mismanaged that as of last year disney took over all day to day opperations

      Nope. They hard retconned the real Cap being stuck in the cosmic cube/Kubick and then had Waid go further in his "history of the marvel universe" mini into saying that Hydra Cap was a random evil Cap that was grabbed from a parallel earth and inserted into the real Cap's place while the real Cap was trapped in the cosmic cube.

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I thought HYDRA Steve got turned into a Red Skull am I making that up?

    Not literally like possessed or anything just bald and red

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      When we last saw him he got his face melted and that's what people were thinking that was going to happen next.

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    homie that's just frickin Cyclops

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