>so uhhhh Frieza comes back but...

>so uhhhh Frieza comes back but... umm.. he's gold now or something lol
>oh yeah there's a second Cell who is identical to the first
>of course, Buu returns because of [reasons] duh

It's literally must Fanservice: The Show. What room temperature IQ mouthbreathers still watch this stupid shit?

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    mexicans

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    that's super saiyan frieza, you freaking imbecile! they go over it in the anime. he finally decides to train and manages to get so strong he becomes super saiyan

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      how can frieze become a super sayan?
      He is not even a sayan

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        He injects himself with saipan blood

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah he did train for the first time in his life but that form has nothing to do with super Saiyan you're just moronic

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    when there's no stakes or limit in how strong they can all get, it's pointless

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >same future Trunks story
    >Master Roshi is relevantly strong again
    >Tien is le cool again
    REHASH EVERYTHING THE SHOW
    >they still refuse to make Krilling decent

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Huh, Tien becomes an even bigger joke in Super. Krillin still gets screen time and is said to be the strongest human which is BS just because he’s Goku’s friend

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is just plain racism: Krilin is of southeastern asian descent: Japs DESPISE Thais, Viets, Lao, Khmers, etc they killed 3+M of them during Indochina invasion and occuption during WW2

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        oy vey muh sixty billion

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Krillin is a gag character, all the slapstick humor in dragon ball Z was focused around him. There’s a whole comedic fight based around him not having a nose

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, his opponent is a huge, unwashed, stinking pig who rubs his ass all over Krillin's face. Kid's shows are crazy sometimes.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      krillin deserves less than nothing, Yamcha should've been the one who married 18. Toriyama's biggest blunder

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >poor yamcha a bloo bloo bloo
        Omega male moment

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        yamchud

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Huh, Tien becomes an even bigger joke in Super. Krillin still gets screen time and is said to be the strongest human which is BS just because he’s Goku’s friend

      this is just plain racism: Krilin is of southeastern asian descent: Japs DESPISE Thais, Viets, Lao, Khmers, etc they killed 3+M of them during Indochina invasion and occuption during WW2

      the point of Krillin is that he constantly gets the best pussy in the series, giving him more and making him fight well would turn him into a Mary Sue

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Krillin just exists to explain everything to the viewer.
      >wow that's amazing, he focused his energy so much that he made a counter energy field which repelled the bad guys attack and rendered it useless, that's why everything didn't blow up like we all said it was going to and made you, the viewer, worry about.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Like many others, Krillin stopped being important or relevant in anything post Namek. After that, he was just the Senzu bean delivery b***h. I liked him a lot more in the early Dragon Ball days when he was a grubby pervert that would try to win by whatever means were available to him

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Super takes everything bad about DBZ and amps it up to 100.

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    dragonball ends with freeza. im not saying this as an pretentious elitist. it's just a derivative joke after that. after freeza DB is more like a saturday morning cartoon than an anime.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      B-but that's what shonens are ...

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        shounen are exclusively for high test audience

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Pic not related

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            I came across a few people which watched that
            I remember them being very stinky.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          My hero is one of the gayest shows

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Once you reach the point where the main character can blow up planets with a flick of his finger, it's time to stop.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >dragonball ends with piccolo.

      FTFY

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I tried watching the first season of super but it's too much like the rest of contemporary anime, gay as frick.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Buu returns
    uhh qrd? haven't been keeping up with the manga

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      new bad guy (magic goatman) was actually sealed by buu (in a nutshell)

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        the magic goatman was such a let down.
        imho Gas was more like Buu, a villian so strong and simple the writers needed an exceptional asspull to defeat him.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >new
        Moro arc ended over 2 years ago.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sex with Goten

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >buu returns
    maybe at least watch DBZ before posting about it homosexual

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >in 4 months of training Frieza goes from being weaker than Namek Goku to god level
    Lol, the biggest asspull power up in the entire series

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >in 24 hours Goku goes from a base battle power of 90,000 to 150 million

      power levels were never meant to be an exact science

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        This, all the power ups are pretty arbitrary. Even in DB, Goku gets his ass stomped by Tao, climbs a tower and is now strong enough to destroy him

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          lol "even in DB", Goku drinks some asspull water and then easily kills the devil.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Frieza was always a complete freak of nature. He was born with that ludicrous strength of his, a bizarre mutant hundreds of times more powerful than almost anything else in existence. It took am contrived chain of ass pulls and desperate moves and hardcore training to wrangle Goku to where he could beat Frieza, then even more across the next ten years, and Frieza crushes it all in six months of literal noobgainz.

      Gokh was born with 5. Frieza was born with 120 million.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      not bigger than roshi versus jiren

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >not bigger than roshi versus jiren

        Literally no one prefers the Tournament of Power manga version to the anime version

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >not bigger than roshi versus jiren

        Literally no one prefers the Tournament of Power manga version to the anime version

        Remember the time Toriyama had to reign in his desire to ship Belmod and his angel attendant and now we know for sure that angels legit do not give a frick about their gods of destruction?

        Or how in the manga Toyotaro makes Gohan say he'll never use Super saiyan forms again and will continue battling as a human only for Toriyama to write Gohan using super saiyan again in the movie?

        Or and my personal favorite Piccolo talking Vegeta up as surpassing Goku and how much he's changed and how this time this is truly Vegeta's' win against Moro only for Vegeta to not only immediately job but get BTFO with his own Big Bang Attack which Moro proceeds to mock as a fancy name for a generic ki blast.

        You can bet dollars to donuts Toyotaro wanted Vegeta to defeat Granola but Toriyama said no so Vegeta gets yet another humiliating defeat, I'm amazed he signed off on Ultra Ego then I remembered he let Vegeta have blue evolved in the manga but not Goku have Blue-Kaioken probably because he thought that shit was stupid.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Vegetables will never get to kill any big boy pants characters. He's there to fluff Goku and that's it. He's always going to be second banana Luigi until the day someone at Toei comes up with a new character to usurp Bejita's position, who pushes even more merch than he does. Toriyama doesn't like Bejita either so he'd get right behind it too and probably would have thought up a character himself if he wasn't such a lazy frick

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        What were they thinking? Jiren could have blown a gentle breeze in Roshi's direction and it would have ripped the flesh off of his bones like a point blank range power washer. I remember when I'd watch Justice League and would see Batman kicking Darkseid, or Batman dodging Omega Beams and think that's real bullshit, but that's still not as bullshit as Roshi standing up to Jiren

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I guess they wanted to give old characters some love but it was done in the dumbest way possible. There’s no way to include the humans in the story without giving them giant asspull power ups at this point. The gap is too big and it’s too late

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There’s no way to include the humans in the story without giving them giant asspull power ups at this point. The gap is too big and it’s too late

            This has been true since King Piccolo

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >There’s no way to include the humans in the story without giving them giant asspull power ups at this point. The gap is too big and it’s too late

            Too late and none of them push any major merch either, sadly. I'm ok with humanity's most powerful contributions being machines these days. I really liked the Gamma brothers. It was like watching Leonardo and Michelangelo. Why'd they have to kill the older brother though? Who's little bro going to play off of now? Felt bad

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are there even dragon balls post Frieza?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes Bulma uses them for selfish wishes like being 5 years younger, less saggy boobs, non crows feet/wrinkles, or tighter butt

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Check'd and kek'd

        >dragonball ends with piccolo.

        FTFY

        Objectively correct. Dragon Ball is a fantasy adventure, Dragonballz is pro wrestling without the humor.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dragon ball was a martial arts series. It had 3 arcs dedicated to fighting tournaments and a save the world arc. It was only an adventure series in the first saga then Toriyama quit that shit because sales weren’t good. Dragon ball is remembered for the fighting not shit like Pilaf

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Not really. Martial arts is a large component for sure, but it's miles from Z, where one fight will last 56 episodes.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Reading the manga after the anime is so weird.
              >huh, you mean Goku isn’t spending an entire chapter screaming and powering up
              >I don’t have to see characters just staring at each other for minutes
              >SSJ goku vs frieza only lasts 10 chapters while the anime version is 20 damn episodes
              The pacing is so different

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don't underestimate Toei, they can stretch one chapter on 3 episodes if needed.

                I'm watching Dragon Ball for the first time since I was a kid, and the pacing was just as bad as Z. Just finished the episode where Goku reunites with his grandfather and everybody there spends two episodes asking who might that person be multiple times per episode, and the same usually happens all the time, they stretch a single chapter into 22 minutes.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Seriously, it’s the biggest problem with weekly anime regardless of studio. Naruto, Bleach, and One piece suffered from it.
                >not allowed to come to close to the Manga
                >always to have to fit the 22 minute runtime
                >if a chapter is too short, drag every scene out
                >if it’s too long, forced to split it
                Shit, the runtime is a meme as well
                >3 minute long sss intro and outro
                >4 minutes of recap
                >10 actual minutes of story

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Someone post the One Piece ones. They take an 18/19 pages long chapter and turn it into a 22 minute episodes

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              18 episodes (87-104) Goku vs Freeza is the longest fight of DB, DBZ, DBGT and DBS.

              Read the manga. It's better.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Read the manga. It's better.
                This is the case for every adaptation. Animes are only better in regards to fights and hype moments which I would expect given the medium. Reading at your pace does wonders for a story.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Toriyama's art is unmatched in the manga. There are some things done better in the anime.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                now why would you say that

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I was joking of course, but 18 episodes is pretty crazy.

                Reading the manga after the anime is so weird.
                >huh, you mean Goku isn’t spending an entire chapter screaming and powering up
                >I don’t have to see characters just staring at each other for minutes
                >SSJ goku vs frieza only lasts 10 chapters while the anime version is 20 damn episodes
                The pacing is so different

                Sounds like I'm switching to manga.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Sounds like I'm switching to manga.

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        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dragon ball was a martial arts series. It had 3 arcs dedicated to fighting tournaments and a save the world arc. It was only an adventure series in the first saga then Toriyama quit that shit because sales weren’t good. Dragon ball is remembered for the fighting not shit like Pilaf

          Super saiyan was the worst thing to happen to Z when you think about it. All it did was lead to Toriyama needing to create more and more power ups since now Goku had a 50x multiplier that would make things too easy. Buu Saga was criticized for constantly introducing new forms only for them to be useless and get replaced. Super takes that up to a new level. They’re just too many transformations. I remember when SSJ God was meant to be the pinnacle and it didn’t do shit then got replaced. The power creep in Dragon Ball is worst I’ve seen, only Naruto comes close

          >Dragon ball was a gag series

          Fixed. It wasn't popular until Goku started fighting

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Go back to Cinemaphile.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Go back to Cinemaphile.
      literally no one gives a frick about dragonball other than latin weebs. it's officially saturday morning cartoon tier.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Saiyan Saga to Cell Saga is peak dragonball. Everything after cell games is shit.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Buu arc is the ultimate brainlet filter
      You unironically need a high IQ to realize the Buu arc is one of the best arcs in all of Dragon Ball.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Hunt for the Dragon Balls Arc
        The 21st Tenkaichi Budōkai Arc
        The Red Ribbon Army Arc
        The 22nd Tenkaichi Budōkai Arc
        The Piccolo Daimaō Arc
        The 23rd Tenkaichi Budōkai Arc
        The Saiyan Arc
        The Freeza Arc
        The Cell Arc
        The Majin Boo Arc

        All kino.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't Frieza have a form after the golden form too? In manga

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Black Frieza or some shit

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The shameless recolor is trash

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        but enough about super saiyan

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          You don't know what a recolor is.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      He found a hyperbolic time chamber and trained in it for 10 years.
      Goku and Vegeta had just been fully healed by a namekian and when they resumed fighting they were still having difficulty with their opponent until Frieza showed up and one-shot all 3 of them.
      He's the strongest known mortal at the moment.

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    What about Zamasu?

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Super really is levels of soullessness that Dragon Ball Z could never hope to achieve. The purple Egyptian cat thing was the last actually creative idea to come out of this franchise and they milked that for an entire decade.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      new bad guy (magic goatman) was actually sealed by buu (in a nutshell)

      the magic goatman was such a let down.
      imho Gas was more like Buu, a villian so strong and simple the writers needed an exceptional asspull to defeat him.

      >Super really is levels of soullessness that Dragon Ball Z could never hope to achieve. The purple Egyptian cat thing was the last actually creative idea to come out of this franchise and they milked that for an entire decade.

      Battle of Gods, Resurrection F, Broly, Super Hero and Daima were 100% written by Toriyama. Everything else is Toei or Toyotaro (Moro and Granolah)

      Jiren is as physically strong(in terms of physical training) but his ki is vastly stronger and powerful. Toriyama been trying to say that physical training is not the only way to get stronger and that you need to focus on your mind/controlling ki to gain power. In order to win battles in dragon ball, you need to have a powerful ki. With jiren, he is just reusing shit from the frieza saga where goku just instantly raise and lower his power to save energy, except its in instinct.

      Freeza is going to be the final boss of Super. Calling it

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Vegeta in one of the latest movies states that Jiren isn't that much stronger than they are in raw power, but what makes the difference is he has so much more control over it, never using more than absolutely necessary. He doesn't go out of his way to waste shit on screaming, powering up, and transformations like the moron Saiyans do.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Vegeta in one of the latest movies states that Jiren isn't that much stronger than they are in raw power, but what makes the difference is he has so much more control over it, never using more than absolutely necessary.

          Was it in a movie, or was it in the manga? Jiren got kicked in his neck, which should have sent his head rolling and he just stood there. His neck muscles are wider than his head is in some shots. Physically, Jiren was near unhurtable until the very tail end of the series

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    dbs manga is pure fan fiction that shits all over whatever og and Z accomplished
    the anime is the fanfiction of the fanfiction somehow.

    the new db babies will be just as bad.

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What room temperature IQ mouthbreathers still watch this stupid shit?
    its intended audience of course, children

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Careful anon, weebs will be butthurt about their hecking animu being called a kids show, even if it is one.

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sigh…somehow Frieza returned

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Apologise

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      GT sucked as well and was just gay toei fanfic

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        GTgays are the PTgays of DragonBall.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >gay toei fanfic

        A very large percentage of Dragon Ball content is gay Toei fanfic, even the original anime with all the Toei filler. Up until recently when he decided to be a bit more involved, Toriyama at the most would just draw some concept art for whatever Toei wanted, then he'd frick off and not even remember he drew anything at all the next day. We haven't had any 100% pure Toriyama Dragon Ball content since he ended the manga

        I just look at GT as another Toei movie with some ok ideas in it

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Is Toriyama even still part of the franchise?

          >We haven't had any 100% pure Toriyama Dragon Ball content since he ended the manga

          Battle of Gods, Jaco, Resurrection F, Broly and Super Hero were 100% pure Toriyama Dragon Ball content

          Moro and Granolah the Survivor were 100% Toyotaro content

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Toriyama did work on the stories for those, it is true, but not the fighting. He's too lazy for that and refuses to do it anymore. He just says [insert big battle here] and lets the Toei grunts put whatever they want in

  22. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    When is Cooler going to be canon too?

  23. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    PAN SEX PAN SEX
    PAN SEX

  24. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Krillin won
    >strongest human
    >got the best waifu (a robot)
    >even managed to get her pregnant

  25. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Super saiyan was the worst thing to happen to Z when you think about it. All it did was lead to Toriyama needing to create more and more power ups since now Goku had a 50x multiplier that would make things too easy. Buu Saga was criticized for constantly introducing new forms only for them to be useless and get replaced. Super takes that up to a new level. They’re just too many transformations. I remember when SSJ God was meant to be the pinnacle and it didn’t do shit then got replaced. The power creep in Dragon Ball is worst I’ve seen, only Naruto comes close

  26. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Goku is back but he has pink hair
    >actually his hair is blue
    >also Goku has an evil twin
    >and they fight a talking purple cat

  27. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggggghhhhhhhh

  28. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cooler has a better design and should have been the one to make a comeback. Frieza sucks dick and I hate his homosexual voice.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >comeback

      Super is a sequel to the manga. Cooler wasn't in the manga.

      >B-but Broly

      Z!Broly and Super!Broly are different characters.

  29. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >every villain was new through original DB and Z
    >super has like 2 new villains, most of the enemies arent even actually villains just dudes like jiren and hit fighting for their universe or beerus who serves as a literal benchmark for goku that keeps moving

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >super has like 2 new villains,

      Freeza (again)
      Zamasu/Goku Black
      Moro
      Heeters
      Red Ribbon Army

      That's 4 villains.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        RR isn't new

  30. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Buu Saga was peak. Gohan in high school and the tournament was the best stretch of episodes in the series.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Buu Saga was peak

      It was over when Videl cut her hair after Gohan told her to. The series was then forever cursed. Everything after that became more and more shit until Toriyama gave up

  31. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do adults still watch dbz? I tried watching the new one with the homosexual space cat and man did it suck butthole.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I tried watching the new one with the homosexual space cat and man did it suck butthole.

      I'm not fond of the cat or his handler either. Every gag with them boils down to:

      >Cat is mad
      >Cat is sleepy
      >Cat is hungry
      >Cat eats things improperly

      It gets really tired when you realize they will never bring anything else to the table but that

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Battle of Gods was written as a standalone. They weren't supposed to appear again.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        1 2 3 I'M HUNGRY!

  32. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is Toriyama even still part of the franchise?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes he created Daima and said he is putting in more effort than usual

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Super ain’t it, but Daima is cringe as well
        >b-b-but it’s a return to old DB with Goku as a kid
        Nah, cheap nostalgia attempt. Goin going back to a kid isn’t going to change or improve anything about his character. He’ll still be naive and ignorant.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Toriyama wanted to age up Goku so he could have more dynamic fights. I don't know what shrinking him down again is going to achieve. Maybe it is an attempt to depower him since he's so OP now, nothing can challenge him

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Is Toriyama even still part of the franchise?

      Toriyama checks Toyotaro's work every month and changes what he doesn't like (edits some art, changes some dialogues and interactions). Toyotaro himself often posts the Toriyama's changes. TOEI had much more freedom to do whatever they wanted and you shouldn't expect an old man like Toriyama to supervise the development of every episode (made by different teams with different directors)

      According to Toyo, Toriyama doesn't only supervise his work, but he also "supervises EVERY storyboard related to the Dragon Ball universe"

      >From Kazenshuu in 2017

      1) They said they don't have the EoZ planned yet (Toyotaro could but not them). They did hint DBS could have potential to go post-EoZ.
      2) They don't see DBS ending right now, in fact, they said they don't have a solid number of how many episodes it will have.
      3) They said they've wanted to do something in anime since GT.
      4)They said their goal with DBS is to make it as similar as DBZ in terms of action/characters/etc.
      5)They said they'll like Piccolo, Gohan, and Pan having the main character role and also want Toriyama to develop more the Goku and Gohan relationship in terms of both wanting to reach new heights.
      6)They said that there's a possibility for more 1h specials and specials like History of Trunks or Bardock's.
      7)They are aware fans are complaining about the censorship and targetting kids audience
      8)They are very interested in Cell, they are waiting if Toriyama wants to do something with him.
      9)They said that Trunks Blue hair, Gohan not having roles and Buu not fighting are Toriyama's decision.
      10) They said that they can't force or change anything from the original outline unless they beg Toriyama and he approves, basically confirming that Toriyama does supervise the anime.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They said that there's a possibility for more 1h specials and specials like History of Trunks or Bardock's.

        Watching Bardock: The Father of Goku, then looking at how he both looks and acts in modern Dragon Ball, is pain. Not as much pain as what Pokemon ended up looking like in the later seasons with the art style change, but close

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          I won’t ever forgive Toriyama for Minus. Bardock special was actually kino non canon material by Toei. Even disregarding that, Toriyama still retconned his story even more
          >Goku never went to earth as a baby
          >hes nice because of his mom not the head injury
          >Bardock isn’t a typical saiyan and Jor el 2.0
          >sends Goku off because of a bad feeling

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            >hes nice because of his mom not the head injury

            This is so awful. Saya people aren't supposed to be nice. They're supposed to be uncaring savages driven by blood lust. Kindness is a foreign concept to them, battles drive them forward and hatred fuels their power. Being clinically brain damaged should be the only thing keeping Goku from being Turles, not a coddling mommy

            The only truly loving Saya is Kale, who is an abnormality. She doesn't like fighting and is very emotional and affectionate, which is how she can tap into such vast reservoirs of deadly energy when she gets spurned. That was really nice writing for her that made sense. I don't know how Toriyama nailed the fundamentals of the Saya race with Kale, but dropped it hard with Goku's parents

            I also don't know why Toriyama keeps trying to turn Goku's backstory into not-Superman. I guess he figured since he already pinched a few ideas as it was, he might as well just take some more. The consequence is that it keeps diluting the nature of Goku's race, from crazed barbarians, to generic humans with monkey tails

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Reminder that Toyotaro retconned ALL of Dragon Ball with "The Bardock Wish", which means that Kid Goku was unkillable against all odds.

              Just wait, soon enough Toyo and Toriyama are going to retcon the whole Saiyan race into being peace loving pacifists who never did anything wrong.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >"I'd wish that my sons end up thriving"
                what does it even mean

                >Goku was unkillable
                Goku was killed twice

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Dragon Balls are everywhere
                >Seemingly every planet has a version of them

                Dragon Balls are the worst story telling device ever

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              I always liked the irony of Goku being sent to destroy earth only to become its unintentional savior. Now, that’s gone and his origin is even more Superman like

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >They're supposed to be uncaring savages driven by blood lust
              No? There are classes of saiyans from civilian level to scientists. They aren't just uncaring savages lol they're warriors who care about strength but it's not like they literally don't care about everything else.
              >Kindness is a foreign concept to them, battles drive them forward and hatred fuels their power.
              Again it depends on the saiyan, not all of them are equal or have the same personality traits. Rage is a way for them to draw strength but pride is as well. And as for kindness I'd say mothers are naturally so, even for saiyans. And becoming kind is not beyond their race either as we've seen with more than 1 individual character, in movies and specials.

  33. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >10 years from now, Goku will be getting new power ups and continue jobbing
    Lol, our MC hasn’t won a single fight since Kid Buu

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Lol, our MC hasn’t won a single fight since Kid Buu

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Lol, our MC hasn’t won a single fight since Kid Buu

      He didn't beat Kid Buu fair and square either. Mr.Satan had to save the day, or the two chimp morons would have got everyone killed playing rock paper scissors with each other

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn. Gokek hasn’t beaten a major bad guy since Frieza and even his victory was stolen by Trunks who was the actual one to end Frieza once and for all

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Lol, our MC hasn’t won a single fight since Kid Buu

      He didn't beat Kid Buu fair and square either. Mr.Satan had to save the day, or the two chimp morons would have got everyone killed playing rock paper scissors with each other

      Damn. Gokek hasn’t beaten a major bad guy since Frieza and even his victory was stolen by Trunks who was the actual one to end Frieza once and for all

      Vs Nappa W1

      Vs Vegeta without help L1

      Vs Recoome W2

      Vs Burter and Jeice W3

      Vs Captain Ginyu L2(Goku was stronger but Ginyu won this encounter due to his body switch technique).

      Vs Freeza W4

      Vs Android 19 L3(I know Goku was handicapped by his heart virus but it still counts as a loss)

      Vs Cell L4

      Vs Cell Jr. L5( I never see this get mentioned but Goku didn't win a single fight in the Cell arc which is shocking).

      vs Yakon W5

      Vs Vegeta L6(I know some may contend this but I count Vegeta getting Goku to let his guard for a ko as a tactical move so while not fair an L for Goku nonetheless).

      Vs Fat Buu Draw1(I think Goku could've beaten Fat Buu if he wanted to but it's a contentious point so I'll just stick to a draw)

      Vs Kid Buu with no help L7

  34. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    My friends keep telling me how cool Super is. How it makes sense. How it's so cool how they were able to connect the shows with it. And I just say "oh that's pretty sick" but fully knowing it's all bullshit. The art style alone makes me hate the show. The bringing back of old villains, OMG NEW EPIC VILLAINS! It's all fricking gay.

  35. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    He says himself that he is gold in his new form because he specifically picked that color to mock the monkeys.

  36. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really enjoyed Bulma in the movies.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine the smell

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Humans using the celestial wish giving artifacts for cellulite removal

  37. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You know this show is trash because its beloved by low IQ third world minorities

  38. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >so uhhhh Frieza comes back but... umm.. he's a robot now or something lol
    >oh yeah there's a second Broly who is identical to the first
    >Buu had already "returned" before Z ended
    You're a moron.

  39. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I only remember the golden frieza fight for Goku getting owned by a laser

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Goku's destruction by quarter machine ring murdered SSJBlue in its cradle. Why introduce the newest, most powerful form, only to show it get floored in the stupidest way imaginable?

  40. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's why Daima will be kino, they're pressing the reset button and making Goku a kid again, but not stupidly strong like he was in GT.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody wants to see that annoying homosexual be extra annoying in kid form. Go frick yourself

  41. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he's gold now or something lol
    old news
    he's black now

  42. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's trying to compete with capeshit but nothing is as badly written as capeshit. Just watch other shows dude. You can always rewatch hxh.

  43. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Goku has never kissed a woman and doesn’t have a Cinemaphile banner unlike Chadruto, Chadfy, and Ichigod

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      kissing girls will deplete their true virgin boy powers

  44. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    How come nu-Dragon Ball is so bad? It just rehashes DBZ but makes the characters into wimpy good guys like Bardock and Broly? Not to mention every story arc Goku and Vegeta are paired up, and The Gods always intervene. It's complete shit compared to the original 80's/90's series.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dragon Ball was supposed to end after the first arc, after Piccolo Jr, after Freeza, after Cell, and finally ended after Majin Buu.

      https://www.kanzenshuu.com/intended-end/

      Dragon Ball Super manga is considered the official continuation.

      Here's what was said about Moro.

      >We've finally entered a new chapter! It's a completely new work that's not in the anime or anywhere else. Unlike Jaco, this Merus guy in the first chapter is a genuine elite member of the Galactic Patrol! Just how strong is he really?! Why has he come to Earth?! And who's this criminal that he says has escaped?! With the 'Galactic Patrol Prisoner Arc', I'm teaming up with Toriyama-sensei and getting a lot of praise as I make it! I'm hoping to make it an enjoyable story that will thrill you all, so please look forward to it!

      Toriyama was involved, they never mention an original story draft by him.

      >Q: What can we look forward to with the "Survivor Granola arc"?
      >A: This time the planning took even longer than for the last story arc, but it was worth it because Toriyama-sensei wrote a great original draft. I can't say what the story's about yet, but there will be plenty of twists and new revelations to get everyone excited. Things are going to heat up hotter than ever before, so be sure to check it out!

      https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1340600306095157249

      Granolah was like the the anime/manga shared arcs, with Toriyama doing the outline and Toyotaro finalizing the story. Moro is the one where Toyotaro took the lead in comparison.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was never meant to end after Frieza, that’s a myth fans keep pushing. Toriyama felt the story was still unfinished and he was right
        >nothing ever comes of Gohan’s hidden powers
        >he and Goku never even had a proper goodbye
        >Vegeta is just there on earth fricking around

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Dragon Ball was supposed to end after the first arc

        Any thing after this part of that sentence is HEADCANON.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Gods always intervene

      This is the worst, as there is never any sense of urgency if the Gods visiting Earth to eat pizza or ice cream can either stop the bad guy themselves, or rewind time to stop them at their leisure. The Dragon Balls already kill the tension, but then you have the babysitter Gods making sure everything is fine too

  45. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >now you remember whatever frick that was

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >SSJCutie Bejita ~Kawaii Sparkles

      I like how big and happy his pupils get when he's in that form

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bejita gets his own shade of SSJBlue
      >doesn't call it Royal Blue
      frick off toei

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Toei seems to be pretty unwilling most of the time to bother naming all of these new forms. They make one, then forget it and move on to the next

  46. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Waku waku

  47. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Let's all remember the real point here.

    Man of steel showed objectively that it is absolutely possible to produce a live-action dragon Ball z movie with modern technology and equipment.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Possible but unlikely. You'd need people in charge of it who really care about Dragon Ball. Not even Toei cares that much, with Toriyama himself caring even less

  48. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Super is now older than Z was between the end of Z on Toonami and the announcement of Super.

  49. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Second Cell
    >Buu again
    Elab

  50. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >New power up is just different colors
    Lazy fricks

  51. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thinking up new and compelling visuals for new forms outside of Mortal Kombat palette swaps, requires some degree of creativity

  52. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm getting excited!

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