So whaddya think? Spidey's rogue gallery seems to have more super-powers, while BM's foes appear to be more of the "mental patients with a lot of resources" type. Who would need more prep time/snarky one-liners?
So whaddya think?
So whaddya think? Spidey's rogue gallery seems to have more super-powers, while BM's foes appear to be more of the "mental patients with a lot of resources" type. Who would need more prep time/snarky one-liners?
Batman would struggle more
Spidey would struggle less
Spider-Man holds back on his rogues gallery
Would Spider-Man try to help Gotham's rogues or would he bully them with quips? How fricked is Dr Freeze?
>How fricked is Dr Freeze?
Peter's used to dealing with crazy super scientists, however, Peter's no slouch in that department himself. I'm thinking he helps him with his whole frozen wife problem in a way Bruce never would have.
In the series with Chat, Pete made a heat gun from shit he found in a dumpster.
Batman is absolutely dying lmfao. The frick is he gonna do when the sinister six jump him. Almost all of them have powers.
Sinister Six are jobbers. Completely unthreatening, I bet even Daredevil could take them.
Most of Spider-Man villains are morons with very conveniently exploitable weaknesses that anyone can use to easily beat them, most of them are pretty slow as well.
Batman is just fricked the moment they face someone like Green Goblin who is both superhuman and too smart to fall into his prep time traps
This really makes me want to see a Batman vs The Sinister Six comic where Bats just gets absolutely pushed to his limit. Showcase how dangerous the Sinister Six can be to heroes who aren't Spider-Man.
Batman would struggle at first but he'd figure it out. Would probably have to go full Iron Man with his bat suit, like Batman Beyond shit minimum.
Spider-Man would do fine, though I think the general vibe of Gotham would exhaust him emotionally.
Yeah I think enough encounters with Zsasz and Joker and the like would bum Peter out pretty hard. Sure he deals with freaks like Carnage but these are real people doing these terrible things not a wacked out monster
Wasn't there some alternate universe where Pete lost his mind and created a creepy spiders' den in the city with webbing everywhere?
There was no crime within because Pete was having none of it.
You know that's my problem with Spider-Man, he's just as smart as Batman, he's a supergenius in every single field including detective skills and strategy and was implied to be smarter than Hank Pym and Tony Stark. But that is never shown as being relevant to his life. He should be rich and famous, he should be creating hundreds of new inventions and be seen as a big deal in the superhero community but they can't do any of that for some reason.
He's too busy being Spider-Man, anon. I can say the same thing for Clark Kent not curing cancer. Not all geniuses are "Mr. Dr. Scientist Man".
>He's too busy being Spider-Man
Other than Octopus and Osborn his bunch of harmless petty criminal villains are clearly a waste of time for him due to his "supergenius on every field" potential to do literally anything, at least Bruce got the "he's crayzah" excuse.
Its just normal comic book infinite power scaling + Peter's status quo of being a broke 20-30-something. He's smart but relatively speaking he's not that smart.
that's why i always preferred organic webshooters, plus it forces the writers to come up with a better excuse than "i'm out of web fluid"
I've always preferred organic webshooters too. It makes him weirder and more interesting too
On one hand, half the batman villains are just escaped mental patients with no powers yet Batman often struggles against them. On the other hand, both Batman and the Joker are the most heavily wanked characters in fiction. Batman will just go "muh preptime" and breeze through Spider-Man's villains even though thats moronic, while the Joker will be too INSAAAAAAAAANE for Spidey to handle and effortlessly kill him even though that's even more moronic.
No spider man would just laugh at the joker and he'd crack just like he did in batman beyond. The joker was never a good comedian and could never take the hecklers.
Things like this are what will make the difference for spidey, just between his spider sense keeping him one step ahead of any attacks and his bants putting joker/penguin/scarecrow/ECT off their game he would absolutely mop up Gotham.
Half of Batman's rogues like Clayface, Mr. Freeze, Killer Croc, Bane, etc. are comparable to Spider-Man's and they're not even the worst ones. Meanwhile Spider-Man's villains are just as one dimensional and easily beaten with something from Batman's utility belt. Bruce would have the most trouble with Norman and Otto. And I won't even talk about Batgod.
Spidey would blitz freeze and bane. Croc and clay face are interchangeable with sandman and lizard.
>switched cities
So Batman doesn't have his resources/batcave?
He's kinda fricked. Pete's enemies, combat-strength wise, shit all over Bat's, so Batman would need specialized gear.
Pete, if he's not being written by current Marvel, is a smart guy. He might not be the world's greatest detective, but he should manage for most of the rogues. Maybe Riddler would be a headache.
Spidey has an easier time with 99% of the rogues. The only real danger is Ra’s devoting his resources and time to finding out Peter’s identity and siccing the League of Assassins on his family. Croc also has a chance of taking him down, as both Vermin and Lizard tend to almost kick Spidey’s ass whenever they fight in the sewers or an enclosed area. Finally, the only danger with Joker is him seeing how far he can push Spider-Man before he outright throws away his code and beats him to death. Everyone else? Just another day at the office.
Batman on the other hand is screwed because Spider-Man’s villains team up a lot more frequently than Bats. One on One, Batman can potentially beat anyone on this list. But if the Sinister Six or the Carnage Family from Maximum Carnage decide to jump him? He better hope that Clark or Wally have their communicators on and get there in time, because otherwise he’s a dead man. Another problem would be catching them. Unless he has a jet pack or the plane ready at all times, what’s he going to do if Green Goblin decides to run away if the fight is going in Batman’s favor? I love Batman but his rogues are mostly flamboyant psychopaths.
Isn't Pete often fighting the lizard hesitantly too?
Like he knows it's Connors out of control so he doesn't want to hurt him?
Spider-Man is like Superman, they ALWAYS hold being even when their or other people life are at risk, because he's strong enough to one hit kill most of his villains
They would both get mogged by the other's rogue galleries.
Batman's villains are all unrepentant psychopaths that are also hyper competent at being murderous lunatics. Spider-man would not be ready for an entire city of people with norman osborne level hate boners for him and he'd only make it worse by never shutting the frick up when he punches their heads in.
Batman might be able to figure out a few of Spidey's lower level villains, but the minute the sinister six formed he would be a dead man, and he just can not troll villains like Spider-man can, which is always the undoing of the Sinister Six. He can't piss off Otto Octavius enough to frick up his plans. And that's not even getting to the Green Goblin.
What are Batman's six most powerful villains to a make a potential Sinister Six equivalent the strongest possible?
I'm thinking
>Bane, the leader
>Solomon Grundy
>Clayface
>Poison Ivy
>Killer Croc
>Firefly
>What are Batman's six most powerful villains to a make a potential Sinister Six equivalent the strongest possible?
For me is
>Bane would be like the Kraven the Hunter of the group because both of them are smart and strong
>Scarecrow would be the Mysterio because of his fear toxin is the same as Mysterio's illusions
>The Doctor Octopus of the group is going to be Mr. Freeze
>I like killer moth to be the Vulture of the group because they both can fly and both of them are silly characters
>Clayface is the Sandman because it make sense
>and poison Ivy is going to be the Electro of the group.
Vulture has never been presented as "silly". And KGBeast would be a better fit for Kraven
Could Black Cat seduce Batman?
Could Spidey seduce Catwoman?
Would Catwoman throw up if Peter revealed his face?
Pete's usually in college/his 20s instead of a teen, so Selina would probably be fine.
Any b***hes love Spider-man, so is Selina a b***h?
Lemme tell you how it would go down
Batman would 100% embrace bonding with venom
And because of that he would stand toe to toe with spidermans villains for a while and absolutely brutalize them
But as always whenever batman gets enhanced in some way he always loses himself to the power
And Norman would ultimately exploit this to defeat him
Man-Bat, Morbius, Lizard and Dr. Freeze cure cancer. frick the rest
Terry proved that not even the toughest psycopath in Gotham can tolerate trash talk. If he could shit on the Joker to death, imagine the crap Spidey will be able to pull off. The guy doesn't even shut the frick at all and he is virtually untouchable. He'll give the Joker a brain tumour and legitimately turn him insane.
Batman would win and it’s not even close
Give Spider-Man five minutes in a room with the joker and I swear the joker will have found some way to capture this bastard or at the least kill his family
Is Joker some incredibly intelligent villain now?
The world's greatest spook?
No, but I’m just saying neither is the green goblin and correct me if I’m wrong doesn’t eat hill on May and Gwen, Stacy, or one of Spider-Man’s many gfs in the original line, and he was just some guy who was pissed off
>neither is the green goblin
Norman is incredibly intelligent though.
Also had a pre-existing personal connection to Pete. Joker unmasking Pete would be like Lex unmasking the flash in the DCAU cartoon.
OK all right all right I kind of see your point here. Let’s go back a minute.
Even if the joker doesn’t know who Spider-Man is, the joker himself has Harley Quinn, as well as an entire gang, but most importantly, the joker is pretty much criminal Batman. He has his own shit load of gadgets joker gas, joker knives, choker, playing cards that are as sharp as knives. Joker smoke bombs joker ropes that have two balls at the end of them that somehow catches people. You know what I’m talking about. All I’m saying is it wouldn’t take that much for the Joker to really beat Spider-Man up close or a far
That, and or the joker would probably catch Spider-Man with. I don’t know like fly trap on the ceiling, since that seems pretty in character for him.
>joker ropes that have two balls at the end of them that somehow catches people
Bolas?
Joker would make the greatest mistake of his life considering Pete has no qualms with putting down a mad dog once pushed too far
what did he do to her face?
I'm guessing he used his "clinging to walls" power to cling on to her face and well...
Spider-man would generally turbofrick Batman's rogues but there are a few standouts that would give him hell. Namely Riddler, Bane, and Poison Ivy.
Man-Bat and Killer Croc also get a shoutout for being the sort of foe Spider-man already faces.
>Poison Ivy.
Which wins: mind control kiss or b***hes love Spider-man?
>Bane
What would he be able to do?
Well, Spider-Man is ususally written as struggling against his foes while Batman is written punching Darkseid in the face, so even if common sense would dictate Spidey having an easier time you know there's no stopping the batwank.
In the real world? Batman gets slaughtered. Its comics though, so he'd have his plot armor
They'd both struggle a bit at first due to the radically different enemies, but they'd eventually find their footing.
Anyone saying Batman or Spidey would have any more trouble than usual or anything is moronic, they both have plot armor out the wazoo.
I genuinely think Bruce would probably be forced to become a street level equivalent of Iron Man due to the sheer level of bullshit Spider-Man's rogues are on. Even then he'd probably be at his limit with the Goblin, Carnage, and Morlun.
Peter I imagine would fare better but would probably just brutalize the Joker the instant he tries anything.
Peter would job to clown force and Cinemaphile would seethe about it.
Spider-Man has a cakewalk since most of Batman's villains don't really have super powers.
Batman gets absolutely wrecked.
Green Goblin and Kraven are the only Spider-Man villains that Batman wouldn't be able to beat with prep time bullshit. every Spider-Man villain is either a fool or moronic.
Spider-Man would beat any Batman villain.
>It's another Batman would struggle with these guys while Spider-Man wouldn't struggle at all.
Spider-Man doesn't have to deal with nearly half the shit Batman does. Hell, the majority of Spider-Man's villains are fricking moronic and most times seem to just be doing it for shits and giggles.
>What's this guy do?
>He robs banks
>And this guy?
>Robs banks
>What about this guy?
>Oh, he.. uh, also robs banks
>And let me guess.. this guy?
>Yes... He also robs.. uh, banks
Spider-Man has a handful of people who are actually scheming or ready to fricking kill him and anybody close to him. All of Batman's villains are just ready to kill people and him, if he happens to show up.
Secondary take.
>Spider-Man has a handful of people who are actually scheming or ready to fricking kill him and anybody close to him.
Morlun
The Green Goblin
Carnage and his cronies like Shriek, Carrion, and Doppelganger
Jackal
Kraven
The Lizard
Doc Ock
Swarm
Vermin
Scorpion
The Thousand
nta but none of those but maybe Carnage are interested on doing that, also you forgot Kingpin the only one who would actually do that if he could right away
>nta but none of those but maybe Carnage are interested on doing that
Are you fricking telling me that the GREEN GOBLIN isn't actively plotting to torment and break Peter down?
Electro has lost it enough to go for the kill when power tripping. He'll even kill others just to torture pete.
Dumbest post in the thread.
They'd both be fine, but I don't think Spidey would handle Gotham itself very well.
you tell me
Bartman would struggle more but Peter would break faster.
Spiderman might kill the Joker depending if the Joker looses intrest in Spiderman or not. Joker likes to frick with Batman cause he's the ultimate straightman so the second he hears Pete quipping back at him he'll either get pissed and frick off to a diffrent city or goes full Injustice mode and does some over the type awful shit to show Peter he means business, which at that point Pete would likely just kill him.
Who in Petes gallery tries to out snarky him? Bats has plenty who try to out grim-derp or pep him.
Only one can think of is maybe goblin.