It is true though, she was more endearing and entertaining than whatever the hell the evil shit has been for the past few episodes. >t. furgay
Also true.
It took a nose dive after like the first 3 episodes, there's a tonal shift and it begins to feel very directionless/random soon after.
We have the fox seemingly being set up as a major antagonist messing things up for unicorn including an early reawakening, zombie elephant, indirectly responsible for damage caused throughout London....only to get btfo by the kraken Emma summoned and that's basically the end of the fox as a threat and character.
There's also the Scotland Yard introduced in the 3rd episode, we see them attempt to handle the situation though I'm more disappointed that we didn't get shenanigans with them following/right behind unicorn's trail throughout London.
It’s funny because I remember how after the first three eps of UWE came out, we were talking about how they were so middling that it was actually almost a relief that this couldn’t possibly be another Samurai Jack season 5 scenario, and obviously the really good episodes must have been saved for the end on this one.
Really 3 episodes in? It's been such a long time since I've watched s5 I genuinely don't remember lol.
It’s funny because I remember how after the first three eps of UWE came out, we were talking about how they were so middling that it was actually almost a relief that this couldn’t possibly be another Samurai Jack season 5 scenario, and obviously the really good episodes must have been saved for the end on this one.
Looking back on it the first few episodes are the most coherent, they build off what was previously established in the last episode pretty well even if they were little boring and set up the potential mystery. London was genuinely comfy too.
I can’t help but wonder if this show would be better/more cohesive if it was made 10 years ago, or if it had gotten more seasons/episodes guaranteed at the start. It sorta feels like Genndy, who has been burned before, didn’t want to risk not being able to fit in any of his favorite ideas for his passion project into the 10 episodes he got, so he shoved everything in and let that come at a cost.
If that’s so then maybe season 2 could have a little room to breath now that he’s got all that out of the way. But this season was really supposed to be the hook that draws viewers in, and I was put off a bit past the midway mark when I started to realize that they were just gonna keep picking up and tossing aside new concepts instead of expanding on the ones they’d just got done setting up.
>was put off a bit past the midway mark when I started to realize that they were just gonna keep picking up and tossing aside new concepts instead of expanding on the ones they’d just got done setting up.
Easily my biggest problem with the show, either some plot points are resolved too quickly, action happens off screen or it's brushed aside completely.
Really disappointed the conflict between Emmalinda was solved this season but it also could've taken up less screentime that the other two warriors could've used and really some more interactions between the three. >so he shoved everything in and let that come at a cost
Yeah this is what it's feeling like
3 were considered the highs with punished Jack and the bounty robot. After that complaints became the Ashie show, skipping over the destiny prediction, and ignoring interesting looking new chars. The asspull return to the past was just cherry on cake.
>The asspull
So tired of this shit.
Aku was complacent and stupid, and he ended up being the cause of his own downfall, IE he literally created someone with his powers that went against him, because anyone who spends a lot of time around Jack ends up good in the end.
It wasn't an asspull to make Aku his own downfall, it was just the kind of thing that Aku would cause.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah and most of the people who complain about Samurai Jack's last season just go >Jack shoulda stayed in da future, he shoulda cured da people, and all shoulda be good 🙂
Which is the same kind of asspull but even more predictable
11 months ago
Anonymous
Complacent, stupid, ... and lazy. Why would he spend all his ozze giving 7 people his exact powers instead of knock off goo and calling it a day?
Its an ass pull because to get to the resolution required throwing out what was being built up, the fact its a sudden revelation, and suddenly having jack change his mind after being presented with time travel chances for years.
Season 5 was more than what the show deserved, but it was clearly a final rush effort to resolve it all.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Its an ass pull because to get to the resolution required throwing out what was being built up, the fact its a sudden revelation, and suddenly having jack change his mind after being presented with time travel chances for years.
Not exactly, no. He wanted to time travel for many years and couldn't quite get there. The one time he had a chance he stayed to save lives. Maybe he just wasn't ready to go yet.
In this instance I don't think Jack changed his mind, I think he just took the opportunity when it presented itself.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Full of himself, wanted to spread his evil so he gave the cult his seed so they could stuff it in themselves and give birth to Aku babies to kill Jack. It's not that difficult. when one was finally isolated and awoken from the cult, the human part connected with Jack, as all life with the potential for good does. Jack didn't change his mind, it was just the moment he needed. I don't think you guys would be happy with any resolution.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I don't think you guys would be happy with any resolution.
Fair point.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I don't think you guys would be happy with any resolution.
I've seen movies and shows where I found the ending satisfying. For example the Justice League season finales, Batman: the Brave and the Bold, Phineas and Ferb, Wander over Yonder, Futurama's season finales. Some anime too but it's off-topic, plus some comic runs. It's not impossible to make a good ending. Heck, the last Samurai Jack comic felt like a cool finale even if it didn't actually show how the story concludes.
Looking at Samurai Jack S5, Primal S2 and now UWE, Genndy has a pattern of wrapping up his stories in a terribly half-assed way. He consistently wastes screentime on irrelevant stuff which forces him to rush the final episode. There are some strangely amateurish writing goofs throughout those series, too.
Genndy can come up with some cool-looking imagery. But as a writer, apparently he needs people who will tell him "no" so that he won't get carried away.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks for the well thought out response.
My only counterpoint for Jack is that Season 5 defintiely was leading us towards >Aku is his own downfall, his daughter is going to one up him
It was almost predictable and didn't feel half-assed. I see that a lot of people think that, it still confuses me, but I accept it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Have you seen Gurren Lagann? For many who are familiar with it, SJ S5 ending just felt like an inferior ripoff of it. I genuinely liked that ending back when I saw Gurren Lagann, but seeing it again in SJ just made me wonder if it was so similar accidentally or deliberately. Plus there were some key differences between S5 and TTGL endings. Those differences made the S5 ending suck while TTGL ending worked well enough.
I don't mind Ashi turning out to be Aku's downfall. That's fine enough as a concept. Problem is that they didn't write it very well. That's the main reason why people disliked it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The anti-spiral’s connection to the waifu makes no sense whatsoever. It’s melodrama for the sake of it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
NTA, but even though I principally don’t have a problem with the concept of Ashi sending Jack to the past, the way it was presented still felt like an asspull because it was a grand revelatory show concluding development that shot past in literally five seconds. ““AshiyouhaveAku’spowers!”*gasp*”Ido!!”*screeech*” was awful.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I do understand how it was just out of nowhere, but, it wouldn't have taken long to decide time travel is the answer. Did you want them to discuss it first I guess? Or just take the time to discover she had the powers and test them? Or show them training her powers?
11 months ago
Anonymous
All of those are fine options. What I really just would have wanted is for the concept to have a little time to breath and sink in. I don’t care much how, I just know I didn’t like what they did do.
Maybe it’s something they could have realized was possible sooner than the last two minutes of the show, but then found out Ashi couldn’t immediately get the hang of it. So they could have a whole episode or whatever of her trying to figure it out, and then have a moment where she’s under great stress and finds the strength through the power of love or some shit. The show would have to be rearranged to accomplish that, of course, but I’m just throwing out ideas.
>The asspull return to the past was just cherry on cake.
That I remember, the abrupt >"Ashi you have Aku's powers!"
Was lol
There was barely writing in this and it immediately went off the rails. Its just throwing ideas and abandoning them. All the characters are very 1 dimensional, like Emma's parents or just the main cast really. It reads like this used to be a concept for comic, but got animated instead. >Why or what is the evil doing? Why did the evil jump into cosmic only now? >Why was Melinda's magic the evil? >Charlatans were banned by the police, yet this isn't reflected at the last episode. >What was the fox? Where did the fox go? Who betrayed the fox? What was the fox doing? >What was wrong with host bodies? >When everyone combined their souls, what about the hosts? >Why is the fox employing Otto bots? >The tiger is pointless. >What point is there combining Souls/powers really? It never did strengthen Melinda, that was never established. >If Otto made Copernicus, then why is he dead? >Isn't Otto kinda of a big deal? Shouldn't his death be felt by London? What was he mining? >Why Unicorn? Where is the unicorn? >Why is Winston in control or permanently a werewolf?
And now they're in another dimension/timeline frickery where everything pre-established doesn't matter.
Like other anons pointed out it's the problem of trying to cram in too much into a 10 episode season.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I burst out laughing at the "ASHI YOU HAVE AKU'S POWERS" bit, holy hell I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
I am confused, was she not the green evil energy thing?
also I guess this is the backstory for Primal now, heh.
it's odd we didn't see eldred transform back when his spirit was yanked out but I guess it was only brief. so are we actually getting more?
Obviously that long neck managed to spy that zombie long neck shit. Its probably just checked out now that its seen reality have a seizure and bring in aliens, dragons, and frick knows what else
First half until Emma spoke to the heart was perfect, but after that felt rushed. I want season 2 just to see what they're going to do next and how messed up the world is.
This. Nothing about Genndy's ending was realist. Black Horse was at least true to the ending and didn't give it a happy ending.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know about that. Having Samurai Jack wipe out evil and ruling the world in his service is a beautiful ending. It gives us a true payoff.
11 months ago
Anonymous
But that's not what Genndy gave us. Say what you will about Black Horse and how it was a nothing ending, it was still better.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I was referring to Dark Horse’s ending.
In Genndy’s ending, the Hopefulness against evil is literally erased from the dumb time rules.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Dark Horse's ending was stupid though and not at all what you're describing. Still better than Genndy though.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Who the frick watches Samurai Jack for realism? Do you hear yourself.
11 months ago
Anonymous
See
It feels more faithful to the spirit of the original. Throughout the series, Jack had gone through countless adventures and befriended so many people in the future. An ending where he finally accepts what happened in the past and instead chooses to move forward by teaming up with all the allies and people he had helped to defeat Aku in the present would be way more poignant than the ending we actually got where all those characters presumably got erased when the timeline changed.
It feels more faithful to the spirit of the original. Throughout the series, Jack had gone through countless adventures and befriended so many people in the future. An ending where he finally accepts what happened in the past and instead chooses to move forward by teaming up with all the allies and people he had helped to defeat Aku in the present would be way more poignant than the ending we actually got where all those characters presumably got erased when the timeline changed.
I could have accepted all of that just fine if not for the stupid Gurren Lagann ending thing, but to be fair I only saw a few episodes of the original while it was airing
I imagine when they sat down to write every episode it went something like >ok lord genndy sir so the last episode they end up at such-and-such, and did so-and-so. what do you think should happen next? >I dunno. It's whatever. Hey lets make Winston a werewolf >and then what sir? >here's a tiger god I drew on the toilet. We'll make a battle montage of him and Merlin against the robots >but... why? >who cares, magic looks cool. slap it together would you? It doesn't matter.
Feels like Genndy made a first draft version of the story and drew up a big pile of story boards and then left the office and refused to answer calls and the crew was too scared to change anything Genndy gave them.
Feels like Genndy made a first draft version of the story and drew up a big pile of story boards and then left the office and refused to answer calls and the crew was too scared to change anything Genndy gave them.
Hunger Games going on right now. Enjoy the fun! >Teams: https://i.imgur.com/vGMX5Ln.jpg >The Cornucopia: https://imgur.com/a/x2qYvtY >Day & Night 1: https://imgur.com/a/1rcof77 >Day & Night 2: https://imgur.com/a/gBoK8Se >Day & Night 3: https://imgur.com/a/mQI0Er9
>when someone asks what happened after Otto's mothership showed up in the jungle
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Merlin's VA in the LatAm dub died a couple weeks back >this was probably his final role >it will be a b***h to find a suitable replacement for his voice if there is a second season
This is sad
Let me put it to you this way; Fricking Possible part 3 had me more excited this month than a single episode of Unicorn did.
It had a better ending too.
That sure was something I guess. Honestly I can understand why networks passed on this idea for so long. Like other then for himself who is this show exactly for? It's to much of a slow burn for kids/teens to get into, it's to cartoony in some parts for regular people to enjoy it. I don't want to shit on Genndy to much because this clearly meant a lot to him, but one of the most important lessons an artist will learn is that some times you just have to let projects go when they don't work and Genndy just clearly couldn't with this. I'm glad the people who enjoyed liked it but overall I thought it was just okay and nothing more.
Even if it's not his best I'm glad he got to make it happen. Maybe even continue it if there's another season
If not, then there's other projects on the horizon that might be a little smoother in practice
To be fair this is the same mantra that Genndy does with all his shows... >Dex Lab - Way too weird and experimental with parodies of super sentai and kaiju movies >Samurai Jack - SLOW AS FRICK with no dialog most of the time top it off with it being episodic with an ongoing narrative >Symbionic Titan - It's ironic that his most accessible show from a marketing standpoint was his biggest failure >Primal - Outright inaccessible for normies let alone the people who watch Adult Swim as it's pretty much just Jack but with more violence, slow pacing and ambience
Unicorn is just him going back to his Dexter days where he's just sticking shit on the wall and doing whatever he wants every episode at the expense of everything else.
>Jack/Primal
Unicorn is way too fast pace and character driven >Sym-Bionic
I can see especially with the love triangle and the character drama but Sym-Bionic wasn't all that experimental and was pretty straight forward whereas Unicorn is all over the place.
>Unicorn is all over the place
It feels like Genndy knows the show and the creative freedom that comes with it wont last so he's going everywhere he wants to as quickly as possible. Fox's death should have been the end of a season.
I said don't take the fricking bait
There's a difference between discussing the show critically and moronic flailing. Everyone knows the difference, don't dignify the morons with replies
Actually surprised by how little focus he got in this episode, there were times when he felt more like the lead than Emmelinda did. I'm guessing the love triangle shit isn't wrapped up but the actual reuniting with the group part was so rushed I can't really guess where else his character is gonna go.
The Reawakened are among the few remaining people on earth who know of myth and lore and where the legends might be buried. They're going to be in high demand soon and finally using their knowledge to help the cause.
They're such lovable goofs but I wouldn't be surprised if they're sidelined/forgotten again for a number of episodes before we find out they've been in elf prison the whole time.
Yeah, that’s a weird thing to put in at the very end of the season. I feel like that could have come up before, like any time she interacted with Winston or her parents, or that one time Copernicus was broken.
Honestly whoever suggested June ignoring everything going on with the main cast would be even better with how the season ended with the world going so insane
God I hope she comes back
Would you have watched UWE if it was an episodic Saturday morning cartoon with a few themes and plots here and there but the gimmick is that the characters reincarnate and change designs every new season?
>Talked Sony into funding a movie about dog balls
What a fricking chad
Oh, and let's not forget a third season of Primal, a potential second season of Unicorn, and Black Knight whenever someone reminds him it exists
Another Sony movie. We've seen like two total screengrabs but other than that radio silence for a number of years. It's still listed on the Sony website for their upcoming projects
>What a fricking chad
How is that a chad move? Wouldn't you rather see his fights and his direction of action cartoons on the big screen rather than gimmicky comedy?
>He's doing both
I was talking about a movie and all his movies up to this point have been comedies. I want to see him do a self-contained action movie. I think it would be awesome.
Still gonna be leaning heavily towards comedy, I'm quite certain. Aside from being a Sony picture, the image we've got of the titular character is very cartoony
11 months ago
Anonymous
It could be another UWE where the tone and art style don't match.
Alternatively, that's not the final design.
Good. I will be waiting for it, if it ever gets released.(sony has a bad habit of disappointing its fans)
11 months ago
Anonymous
See
Still gonna be leaning heavily towards comedy, I'm quite certain. Aside from being a Sony picture, the image we've got of the titular character is very cartoony
It's already a disappointment. Genndy is like the MCU in that he refuses to take anything seriously.
11 months ago
Anonymous
This looks more like a Warhammer character than anything "cartoony".
>Guy experimented on into violent insanity gets a chance to do good as he is isekai'd (via giant mascot stomp) into a cosmic conflict to save the world.
Could honestly be cool
I really like this show but I feel like it can do so much better so I'm gonna reluctantly give the season a 6.5. I'll never complain about more Edred but I don't know why he got the 40 minute episode and the finale didn't. First half of the episode was great, but I said that Genndy seems caught up in the side characters of this show doing wacky things and forgets to focus on the main cast more and this was the worst episode for him to indulge in that (even though Clarice and Lao were great). I'm not surprised that Otto and June didn't get any clarification in the face of the big reveal at the end- I'm sure we'll find out more but what happened is now small apples in the grand scheme of things. I think those anons who guessed that the show will end with the team fixing the timeline and all of the characters getting happy endings in the present/past will be right. For season 2 besides fixing the pacing, I kind of hope Edred and Seng get new outfits? Also if Merlin isn't going to stick around, I'd really like another girl to join the group. It's kind of a sausage fest right now.
>Genndy seems caught up in the side characters of this show doing wacky things and forgets to focus on the main cast more
Hopefully he's gotten it out of his system
I fell behind on episodes honestly (soft gave up around the time of elfman's first episode) so I was just cruising through the thread seeing if its even worth investing into the rest...
He was basically consistently working during the 10s. >Sym-bionic Titan >Steven Universe pilot >Hotel Transylvania movies >SJ season 5 >Primal >Now UWE and Black Knight
Man is an absolute workhorse but one is left to wonder if the combined masses of Primal, Unicorn, Fixed, and possibly Black Knight might be a little much to balance all at once
Man Genndy really needs more writers to tighten up his premises and keep his stories on track. This is not how you do what's essentially meant to be a set up for the show intended to draw you in and definitely not how you end a series that will not get a season 2 made for a long, long time. So many ideas and concepts but not enough time to explore them.
Maybe people are too scared to say something to him? But seriously, he definitely needs someone to tell him when he’s trying to shove too much shit into too little time.
It’s like an ADD kid just throwing every idea he has in with little regard to the limited time >Let’s have a random episode taking place in 1800’s Britain that’s only lightly thematically relevant halfway through the season after the cliffhanger, let’s have a 3 episode arc that doesn’t change where the protagonists are going at all and just acts as a detour >ah frick I don’t have enough time to do everything I want to now, oh well!
>Maybe people are too scared to say something to him
I heard that The Wire had a roomful of writers that would frequently steamroll the showrunner and casually call him out on some of the less good ideas, and that played a part in how the show would turn out as popular and praised as it did. Just a little anecdote.
>Let’s have a random episode taking place in 1800’s Britain that’s only lightly thematically relevant halfway through the season
the relevance of that episode is stuffy oldfashioned thinking bad, darwin good
Maybe people are too scared to say something to him? But seriously, he definitely needs someone to tell him when he’s trying to shove too much shit into too little time.
It’s like an ADD kid just throwing every idea he has in with little regard to the limited time >Let’s have a random episode taking place in 1800’s Britain that’s only lightly thematically relevant halfway through the season after the cliffhanger, let’s have a 3 episode arc that doesn’t change where the protagonists are going at all and just acts as a detour >ah frick I don’t have enough time to do everything I want to now, oh well!
Writer's have no use for an inferior medium. Besides Genndy's ego would not allow it.
Maybe people are too scared to say something to him? But seriously, he definitely needs someone to tell him when he’s trying to shove too much shit into too little time.
It’s like an ADD kid just throwing every idea he has in with little regard to the limited time >Let’s have a random episode taking place in 1800’s Britain that’s only lightly thematically relevant halfway through the season after the cliffhanger, let’s have a 3 episode arc that doesn’t change where the protagonists are going at all and just acts as a detour >ah frick I don’t have enough time to do everything I want to now, oh well!
The best thing to do is to ask is, "what are the best ideas and characters to explore?"
Has Adult Swim done any shows with more than 12 or 13 episodes in the last 10 years?
Even their low-budget 11-minute shows only get 10 episodes per season now.
i have crack theory that genndy really didnt want to do the linear mini series format for this show but was forced too and the WTF ending was just a excuse to do a more adventure of the week thing for the next season
>They didn't address the Reawakeneds lack of a Edred equivalent
AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THE HAD TO BLUEBALL ME EVEN AT THE LAST MOMENT DIDN'T THEY, IT'S NOT FAIR
>They didn't address the Reawakeneds lack of a Edred equivalent
The prince of the north can't have children. Knowing how pissy the heart of the forest is, Edred and Copernicus can't risk pissing it off
I think Edred being a different species discounted him from their little group founded on the basis of their lineage. That or they hadn't found a descendant who was willing to join them.
I think Edred being a different species discounted him from their little group founded on the basis of their lineage. That or they hadn't found a descendant who was willing to join them.
yeah i mean he might exist but he wouldn't live with them so they wouldn't.. be a group together
>They didn't address the Reawakeneds lack of a Edred equivalent
The prince of the north can't have children. Knowing how pissy the heart of the forest is, Edred and Copernicus can't risk pissing it off
can't have children? uh, unbroken line dude. he has to have children.
What a kino ending for the season, I particularly liked the psychedelic animation and bringing back the reawakened.
Every episode should've had this quality and the show would've been a decent 8/10 but eh, the budget's what it is. I hope the baseline for S2 is higher and more consistent.
That is not a motherly hug. That's a hug between two people who have gone through shit together and have a bond because of it. I don't ship them, but that is not a motherly hug. I suppose you meant platonic.
felt super motherly to me. Not just because one's way taller, but because she's way older. Their relationship so far has been very much one of a stepmom or maybe big sister whose little sister just wants to be around her and she's NOT into it.
>Their relationship so far has been very much one of a stepmom or maybe big sister
At times Emma felt like the big sister of the two assuming you're saying Melinda is the step mom/big sister, as Emma acts much more mature than Melinda, while Melinda either avoids, threatens, or shuts down to avoid an uncomfortable situation.
you and i have very, very different concepts of maturity. Do you know a lot of chipper, optimistic older people? Sullen, brittle, beaten-down-by-life young people?
11 months ago
Anonymous
We do have different concepts of maturity, and we will not agree.
>I doubt the later today
Holy frick how did I mess that up that badly? I meant: >I doubt the majority of the board is awake, so I'll wait until later today to post a new thread
>CN/AS decide to expand this as a new franchise like ATLA and Gargoyles >one of their plans for the Unicornverse is an X-Files style spin off for the Reawakened.
They most likely just made it since the time period they're living in is very steampunk. It's just a vehicle though so it's less impressive than the robots walking around with AI in them.
My guess is that Copernicus car was made by the Reawakened as a replica copy of Copernicus. So while Copernicus car could be commandeered by Merlin to become true Copernicus in some timelines, Copernicus car can’t be the original Copernicus. I think the “original” timeline wasn’t a looping self fulfilling prophecy like that, with Copernicus inspiring himself because of time frickery. I still think the very first original Copernicus was built by Otto in at least one possible timeline.
Now that reality has fallen apart, we may see multiple timelines mashed together and hopefully this means there’s a non possessed Dimitri that can exist alongside Edred
The show seemed more like a way for Genndy to shove in as many cool ideas and set pieces he wanted into a project rather than a vehicle to tell a good story. I stuck it through just to see how he’d end it and it turns out he didn’t. Guess we’re gonna have to wait like 2 years to see where this is going.
>The show seemed more like a way for Genndy to shove in as many cool ideas and set pieces he wanted into a project rather than a vehicle to tell a good story
Wow. It's almost like Genndy's a decent director but he couldn't write his way out of a paper bag.
>Emma leaves Clarice and Sheng behind with Aewulf and his army of Northern Elves >Now both parties are stuck in a time-fricked period
uh.. hope they're okay?
Winston is like the one redeeming factor in this whole series.
At first it looks like the series is gonna push him out of the story, and possibly kill him off to show that these supernatural powers are serious business. Or at the very least Winston's bride is gonna end up stolen by the elf prince who's destined to be with her because of wizards and ancient evil or whatever.
But Winston simply refuses to get sidelined. He keeps coming back and facing superhuman obstacles for the sake of his bride. Emma is behaving abnormally and something really weird is going on with her, so he's gonna do everything he can to save her.
In some earlier threads, anons argued that Winston seems overly-protective. He has a habit of ignoring what Emma says and following her to dangerous places. Taking such risks results in him becoming a werewolf. But he still sees the positive in it; his new powers help him stand on an equal level with Emma, and he manages to gain control of himself during his transformations. He even ponders the possibility of having a wolfpup litter some day.
Ultimately Winston manages to endear himself to Emmalinda while Edred keeps antagonizing her. The character chemistry is just totally different between Emmalinda/Winston and Emmalinda/Edred.
Winston's character caught me off guard. He barely showed up in any promotional material, so I thought he wasn't gonna be particularly relevant. I definitely wasn't expecting him to officially join the team and (as of now) get the girl. He's sometimes annoyingly pushy and I'm not fond of every joke he cracks, but I admire his determination to stay by the side of his woman.
Also, I'm angry about elves and that makes me inclined to enjoy Winston too.
>how did the seance manage to separate Melinda and Emma?
There is no answer. At first I was convinced that the show would reveal that Emma has some latent power on her own, but no. Perhaps it's some 'Nasty in the pasty' time travel thing since Merlin confirmed Emma traveled to the past and met child Melinda. Emma might be different because she grandfathered paradoxed herself to be. The rest of your questions I suppose the culprit is lazy writing and time constraints. The show is fun, but consistency is handwaved often. >How come they seem to have never talked about Morgan's links to the evil?
The characters don't communicate much. However, at one time Emmelinda brings up Morgan to Edred, who then says he doesn't remember it which seems out of character for him to forget something so important to Melinda.
>which seems out of character for him to forget something so important to Melinda
It's hard to tell if Melinda ever opened up to him about that, or if he's forgotten because the awakening went wrong and made his mind clouded.
I was expecting the season was going to slowly reveal Winston was this petty selfish butthole and Emmalinda was going to decide leaving him or letting him die would make everything better, after that slight cut to smugly knowing Alfie's school was gonna get shut down.
i gave up around episode 3. the show felt like it wasn't really going anywhere, and as much as i wanted to love the art, the weird betty boop humans really turned me off of it. during my short watch, it seems like there wasn't any attempt to rein in anything. it's very scatterbrained.
Here yah go anon! That was the last request! Thank you anons for such a fun time! I hope we get more seasons, but if not, it was a blast watching with you!
weird, i thought that she was called Javelin, to keep the weapon naming
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't get it >Fang's mate that lasted a single episode gets a name >The children of the protagonists don't, in spite of Fang's kids being around longer
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't recall that dinosaur getting a name
Red is just a commonly used nickname innit
11 months ago
Anonymous
David Krentz called him that. He's a mildly famous paleoartist who worked on Primal as a writer and storyboard artist.
First half was good fun with schizo Emma, but as is typical for Genndy, the second half is rushed and messy, and I don't really even know if spending less time on Earth would have helped. Feels like we just needed a full 5 minutes extra, period.
I know Genndy wants 4 seasons for this, but has he even gotten a second season confirmed? Is this just gonna be another Sym-Bionic Titan?
Not yet but this seems like as good a time as any. AS seems happy with the show's reception and are giving it quite a bit of airtime. They've also greenlit more Primal so they're showing a fair degree of confidence investing in his shows
Not yet but this seems like as good a time as any. AS seems happy with the show's reception and are giving it quite a bit of airtime. They've also greenlit more Primal so they're showing a fair degree of confidence investing in his shows
I feel like Gendy did a lot of homework preparing for Popeye, got his rug pulled, then looked to this show as some kind of autistic catharsis for all the wacky kitchen sink bullshit and rubber hose era aesthetic he wanted to do.
In hindsight I'm wondering, how did the seance manage to separate Melinda and Emma? Did the Indian guy just accidentally pull it off without ever realizing it? Or was it Emmalinda; did she always have the power to split herself up like that? After the Indian guy's confession that he's a total fraud, for a second I thought that Emma was about to realize she herself is innately connected to Melinda and has dormant powers, and she would've been able to somehow find her way back to Melinda on her own.
When they guys were fighting evil in the Cosmic Realm, did they ever consider implanting Melinda's soul inside one of the other warriors? It has been acknowledged that she's the most powerful out of them, so her powers would've been useful in the fight against the evil. What would happen if you put her soul inside one of the guys in the group, anyway? Would it still work? Apparently it does, since Emma gets the souls of four guys inside her near the ending. How did she know it was even possible to mash multiple souls into one body like that? Why didn't the hybrid become an amnesiac mess like Emmalinda used to be, or end up with only one soul overwriting the host's identity like with normal soul parasitism in this series?
How far away was the elf kingdom from London? I used to think it was in a foreign country since there were timeskips during the travel. During those timeskips, Winston had enough time to figure out how the werewolf transformation works. So I figured it must take weeks or even months to reach the elves. But apparently now it took such a short time that Emma didn't even have the time to change out of her nightgown.
How come they seem to have never talked about Morgan's links to the evil? In the flashback, it looked as if she outright transformed into the evil entity. It's weird they were so shocked to find her now.
>how did the seance manage to separate Melinda and Emma?
There is no answer. At first I was convinced that the show would reveal that Emma has some latent power on her own, but no. Perhaps it's some 'Nasty in the pasty' time travel thing since Merlin confirmed Emma traveled to the past and met child Melinda. Emma might be different because she grandfathered paradoxed herself to be. The rest of your questions I suppose the culprit is lazy writing and time constraints. The show is fun, but consistency is handwaved often. >How come they seem to have never talked about Morgan's links to the evil?
The characters don't communicate much. However, at one time Emmelinda brings up Morgan to Edred, who then says he doesn't remember it which seems out of character for him to forget something so important to Melinda.
So if there will be a second season how will they handle the love triangle(or, square really)? Will both Edred and Winston just flat out stop their simping?
Winston only wants Emma while Edred only wants Melinda. They're not fighting over the same woman. It just looks like that since the women have been stuck inside the same body.
As long as the women are together, Winston seems to have an upper-hand. He accepts that Emmalinda is not quite the same person as Emma, but he's ready to be there for her anyway. Edred's been sulky and reluctant to acknowledge one half of Emmalinda's identity at all. I think he'll only have a chance if he learns to accept that Emma is a person too (and so is Dimitri but I guess nobody cares about that).
If they put an end to the evil and the warrior souls eventually get booted out of the host bodies, the love triangle/square should be instantly over. But both couples would still be dealing with some leftover problems.
In the case of Edred/Melinda, Edred doesn't have a physical body to return to. Maybe he can take over his brother's body and come up with some kind of a bullshit story to the elves? Or perhaps he just keeps jumping from one body to another?
I'm not sure where Melinda's physical body is and how easy it'll be for her to return to it. Did the elves take it with them when they imprisoned Merlin and took Edred's body, or does Merlin have it stashed somewhere? Is the body kept under the same sort of magical stasis as Edred's body? If it hasn't been stored adequately, is it possible for her body to have either aged or decomposed during all these centuries?
As for Emma/Winston, Emmalinda has been okay with Winston being a werewolf. Emma alone doesn't seem to be bothered by it, either. But if he stays like that and if they manage to change the world back to normal, it might complicate their lives a little bit.
This series still has not explained to me why the frick the body stealing mechanic needs to exist, apart from "it needs to happen so we have a show".
Edred can live for thousands of years, his real body was just hanging out in the forest in a coma for all this time.
Merlin the giga sorcerer is still alive and powerful after thousands of year. Surely Melinda, the child of two powerful giga-sorcerers, also lives naturally for thousands of years?
The only one we don't have an answer for is Seng because Genndy doesn't give a shit about him.
Why risk getting crippled or permadeath with your real body? It's fricked but it's better to fight the evil using some random pleb's skin that ideally you can give back later
I don't know how Merlin in the first episode knew that the evil will return and needs to be beaten back again later. And what was the endgame anyway; are the warriors just gonna keep putting the evil temporarily down forever, or did Merlin believe there was some kind of a way to defeat the evil once and for all? If he didn't even realize until the finale episode that Morgan was stuck inside the evil, how would he know anything else about the nature of this evil they're fighting?
Oh yeah, you're right; I forgot about that.
Although involving time-travel will always introduce even more questions. Like for example, if Merlin already knows all kinds of key information about the future, what is he doing with that information. Has he ever looked into whether they'll defeat the evil and how long it's gonna take? Is he just letting all kinds of future calamities happen because the timeline can't be changed, or has he changed the future but it created alternate timelines with some new problems to deal with?
Seng said early on in the show that the future has been altered, so I guess that's possible in this series. But it's opening the door for all kinds of headache-inducing time frickery.
I’m sure there are other timelines. And the fact that time is not one solid linear block probably makes predicting it and controlling it all kinds of more difficult and complicated, and this is the reason Merlin and the others aren’t omnipotent and all powerful.
But at least simply taking a peek and seeing that the Evil was definitely gonna return should have been a short order for a guy like Merlin.
In a cartoon network show, it really doesnt make sense because you know the characters aren’t in any real danger. In an adult swim show, they really should kill off a host or two just to demonstrate that the threat level really calls for these measures.
Maybe in a prequel scene, they could establish that at some point they had more warriors on the team, possibly more monks like Seng, but they got offed and then that prompted Merlin to come up with the body swapping idea.
If the host dies, we have no reason to believe Copernicus can't snatch the warrior's soul for safekeeping.
However, since we have NO IDEA what the rules are for him selecting hosts - beyond it definitely not being reincarnation - it's possible that a dead host still means that warrior is out of the fight until their next go round.
So like, the question goes right back again
why bother doing this for the two immortals? Why not just leave them alone, periodically call them up with the newest incarnation of Seng, then yknow, if they ever fall in battle, NOW scoop their souls up.
I can’t help but wonder if this show would be better/more cohesive if it was made 10 years ago, or if it had gotten more seasons/episodes guaranteed at the start. It sorta feels like Genndy, who has been burned before, didn’t want to risk not being able to fit in any of his favorite ideas for his passion project into the 10 episodes he got, so he shoved everything in and let that come at a cost.
If that’s so then maybe season 2 could have a little room to breath now that he’s got all that out of the way. But this season was really supposed to be the hook that draws viewers in, and I was put off a bit past the midway mark when I started to realize that they were just gonna keep picking up and tossing aside new concepts instead of expanding on the ones they’d just got done setting up.
It’s been a long time since I watched Symbionic Titan, but I can’t help but compare the two. ST was what probably would gave been a really good 3+ season show with a really good first season of setup, but it unfortunately got canceled before it could move past that one season and get to what probably would have been a lot of the good stuff.
UWE is what probably also coulda been a really good 3+ season show, but it has like all 3 season’s worth of fun ideas crammed into one teeny tiny 10 episode season, without adhering to a proper structure and giving each individual idea the full time it needs to be set up, faced, and resolved.
Morgan being the heart of the evil all along feels like such an obvious reveal for a saturday morning style cartoon like this. But I gotta hand it to them that I kinda appreciate that Melinda and Merlin seem to have really WANTED her to be dead, because that made their lives and their mission so much easier.
A lot of other cartoon protagonists would face the situation Melinda and Merlin were in and say “No, it cant be! My mother/wife can’t be dead! She’s alive somehow, I just know it. I just need to go save her!” And instead Merlin/Melinda see her get zapped and immediately conclude. “Welp. She’s gone. She has to be gone, because the alternative to her being gone is that she’s inside of a monster that I have to kill, and that idea is so painful I refuse to conceive of it even for a second.”
No, once she was revealed people connected her to the voice Melinda heard back in episode 1. But the characters had no reason to think she was still alive.
I don't know what the frick many of you expect. We are lucky to get animation of even this quality greenlit nowadays and not just some mindless fricking garbage.
You have a point that most of Cinemaphile's b***hing about the modern animation industry is a cover up for their own shallow wants but Unicorn def has flaws that drag it down.
I don't know what the frick many of you expect. We are lucky to get animation of even this quality greenlit nowadays and not just some mindless fricking garbage.
Avatar: the Last Airbender is a pretty high tier cartoon with few flaws and even that would be torn apart on here if it was currently airing.
It is what it is, just unfortunate we have some dedicated autists trying to make Genndy notice them in these threads.
It is not on par with any of his other works lol. I'll say it's better than almost everything else airing today, but that's like jumping a 2 inch bar and claiming you are on par with the Olympic gold medalists.
It's on par with a lot of Dexter's Lab, some of the filler episodes of Samurai Jack (did you forget the final episode for 10 years was Jack with a baby?), it's on par with the first few episodes of Primal, etc.
>the first three episodes of Primal
L to the M to the A to the O
11 months ago
Anonymous
Primal was made 4 years ago and obliterates this show so goddamn hard it isn't funny. >It's astounding to me
People having different opinions is astounding to you? Jesus christ you're on the spectrum aren't you?
It's Max shills playing damage control for Genndy's new show.
>I don't know what the frick many of you expect
For Genndy to write a single story that makes sense. Do I really need to pretend that people shouldn't have higher standards for a man who is consistently referred to as a living legend in his field and has decades of experience in the industry?
And I'm not even saying that this makes the show irredeemable shit - the visuals are indeed really nice and it's great to see a well animated adult show that isn't some pseudo anime Netflix garbage for once, but it's perfectly okay to criticize the story, which is of far lesser quality. Why do you need to shut down discussion by throwing a Pokemon-tier "JUST BE GRATEFUL!!!!" at the thread? It has its strengths, and it has its flaws. There is absolutely nothing wrong with talking about that.
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Here yah go anon! That was the last request! Thank you anons for such a fun time! I hope we get more seasons, but if not, it was a blast watching with you!
Yeah if you’re gonna have so much romantic drama, you really can’t stick on a third wheel like that unless you’re gonna either make him really solid and an interesting character all on his own, or have him be so inconsequential you barely notice him. Alfie/Seng is neither of those.
Being controversial or having a negative opinion of something that is new or finding it's footing or whatever doesn't make you clever or unique. It just makes you a boring contrarian.
When you use things like "mindless fricking garbage" for a show like UWE you show how absolutely out of touch you are with most modern cartoons. UWE is a gold standard next to something airing on Nickelodeon or Disney right now.
Protip, if someone keeps saying Dexter is the only good show he created, it's likely industrycuck.
Don't take his bait, just laugh at his sad attempts to be relevant.
Yeah I mean I don't come to Cinemaphile often but this thread is kind of pathetic. This cartoon was clearly a cut above everything we've been given in the past like 5 or 6 years, and seeing people shit on it so completely is astounding to me.
Primal was made 4 years ago and obliterates this show so goddamn hard it isn't funny. >It's astounding to me
People having different opinions is astounding to you? Jesus christ you're on the spectrum aren't you?
>shit on it so hard
I've been pretty nice to UWE, I just think it's like a 6 to Primal's 9. If that's "shitting on it so fricking hard" then I don't know what to tell you.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Forgive the autists. They've never been allowed outside their play pen before so they can't handle people with different opinions.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>It's a 6 to Primal's 9
UWE is going for an all ages demographic and clearly tried to be more accessible to more people than Primal. They're not even the same category. On it's own UWE is like a 7.5 to an 8. Primal is of course a 9 but saying that UWE doesn't even come close to Primal in terms of quality seems really disingenuous and then I see someone using the term "Unitard"
11 months ago
Anonymous
I’m not the “unitard” guy. I think unicorn is a slightly above average show. Is that really too hard to understand? Again, if that’s “shitting on it hard” then I get the sense you’re thin skinned about cartoon opinions.
Tbh nobody online knows how to digest content these days without forming their opinion based on one extreme or another. If you say "it's fine but could be really great if it fixed its flaws" you get hit with "no it's shit garbage and the showrunners should kill themselves". You're not allowed to rate things as just good/average. Also the guy saying TOH/Amphbia is better is industrycuck trying to stir up shit to try and drag Unicorn into the stupid tribal bullshit that only he propagates.
I agree with this. There is no nuance anymore, everything is a 1 or a 10, worst thing ever or the best thing ever, or as the kids say nowadays, peak or mid (even though mid started out as mediocre).
Also when did they remove the tbh filter?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Also when did they remove the tbh filter?
They didn't but I think if it's the first word in a sentence it doesn't apply
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I’m not the “unitard” guy. I think unicorn is a slightly above average show. Is that really too hard to understand? Again, if that’s “shitting on it hard” then I get the sense you’re thin skinned about cartoon opinions.
Yes, it is. Can you name other shows you'd place in the same category as Unicorn? Because I can't. It's in a category of it's own for me. When I think hard, I can maybe place Gravity Falls and Primal around it on opposite ends, or Avatar and Sym-Bionic Titan but it's difficult to place.
I feel like you can very easily put most cartoons into >THIS IS FOR KIDS >THIS IS FOR KIDS, BUT ADULTS CAN ENJOY IT >THIS IS FOR ALL AGES, NOT STRICTLY KIDS >THIS IS FOR ADULTS
Owl House and Amphibia are STRICTLY in the "This is for kids" borderline "but adults can enjoy it" those shows are so simple.
Something like Hilda, Gravity Falls, Unicorn Warriors Eternal, etc. is in the all ages category and you can't compare those to shit like Owl House and Amphibia.
>seeing people shit on it so completely is astounding to me.
No one really is beyond voicing some criticism and it's not nearly as bad as it was in some earlier threads, there's even a lack of the typical schizos completely shitting up the thread.
Tbh nobody online knows how to digest content these days without forming their opinion based on one extreme or another. If you say "it's fine but could be really great if it fixed its flaws" you get hit with "no it's shit garbage and the showrunners should kill themselves". You're not allowed to rate things as just good/average. Also the guy saying TOH/Amphbia is better is industrycuck trying to stir up shit to try and drag Unicorn into the stupid tribal bullshit that only he propagates.
I posted it once because I thought it was funny, IC just highjacked it. Every other time that's not the first instance is him. And it was specifically meant for the rare obsessive type that posts every frame kind of person.
There actually was this diapergay who kept shilling Hailey while shitting on Genndy at every opportunity.
I wonder what the show did to flip the switch on so many schizos.
>People are shitting on the show >Now people are also shitting on fans of the show and saying they can't handle differing opinions
this is like self-fulfilling or something
>It's bad, this show mogs the shit out of it [insert bad, below average, or kids show] >No it doesn't... That show isn't as good
>Wow this Genndy defender is autistic! What a Unitard!
>Combining the responses of two different people
Really? Is that what we're doing now? I don't know why you're so up in arms over me not loving this show, I think it's fine, it's just not at the caliber of the rest of Genndy's shows. And if you think that saying it's not as good as some of my favorite shows is "shitting on it" then that's on you.
To cue Seng that something was wrong and move the plot forward though it probably would've been best if he hadn't been introduced at all or if he had stayed dead the first time. His addition felt very tacked on.
No you homosexual, legit criticism is fine and I've lobbed some of it myself, but this homosexual trolling that rolls into concern trolling when they get hit back is cringe.
If you can't tell the difference then kindly suck-start a shotgun.
I don't understand what IC's goal is here. He makes it very hard to say anything negative without being accused of being a schizo, so if he hates Genndy wouldn't that be the opposite of what he wants? Does he have another goal or is he really just that dumb?
IC is well poisoning I think and it makes it unfun for people who generally just want to shitpost in threads for an aggressively mid cartoon with a serious case of creator daddy worship.
There was barely writing in this and it immediately went off the rails. Its just throwing ideas and abandoning them. All the characters are very 1 dimensional, like Emma's parents or just the main cast really. It reads like this used to be a concept for comic, but got animated instead. >Why or what is the evil doing? Why did the evil jump into cosmic only now? >Why was Melinda's magic the evil? >Charlatans were banned by the police, yet this isn't reflected at the last episode. >What was the fox? Where did the fox go? Who betrayed the fox? What was the fox doing? >What was wrong with host bodies? >When everyone combined their souls, what about the hosts? >Why is the fox employing Otto bots? >The tiger is pointless. >What point is there combining Souls/powers really? It never did strengthen Melinda, that was never established. >If Otto made Copernicus, then why is he dead? >Isn't Otto kinda of a big deal? Shouldn't his death be felt by London? What was he mining? >Why Unicorn? Where is the unicorn? >Why is Winston in control or permanently a werewolf?
And now they're in another dimension/timeline frickery where everything pre-established doesn't matter.
You make some good points but I think a few of your questions have answers. >Why or what is the evil doing?
I think it’s probably just a mass of mindless raw emotions born out of strife and its only purpose is to cause destruction. Probably not worth overthinking. Alternatively, it’s demons. >Why did the evil jump into cosmic only now?
It didn’t have an opportunity to jump into Seng or any other cosmic monk. Seng’s previous hosts might have left him more competent at not letting that happen, but Alfie was vulnerable. >What was wrong with host bodies?
They’re too young. Their brains, bodies, and minds are not suited to the possession. I think this is adequately covered without being spelled out too condescendingly. >When everyone combined their souls, what about the hosts?
Alfie and Emma were there. I guess Dimitri was still asleep, or maybe he just kept quiet because he would have no idea wtf was going on. That’s actually kinda funny to imagine, now that I think about it. >What point is there combining Souls/powers really? It never did strengthen Melinda, that was never established.
I thought it did. Emma says so directly, and then they do it and are actually able to hold their own against The Evil, where they couldn’t do so prior. It’s a pretty typical season finale kinda power up. >If Otto made Copernicus, then why is he dead?
Alternate timeline shenanigans. >Isn't Otto kinda of a big deal? Shouldn't his death be felt by London? What was he mining?
This stuff doesn’t have a lot to do with Unicorn’s story and is appropriate to leave offscreen. >Why Unicorn? Where is the unicorn?
This point is probably best left for a later season if they really must insist they need more. There’s no way they could satisfyingly fit it into this first one and given it the attention it deserves. It’s a later season kinda question. Though if this were meant to be a miniseries with only this standalone season then that would be a fair point.
No offense to the anon you responded to but some of his questions can be answered by watching the show, putting in a little thought or as you put it, are "a later season kinda question. ".
Tbh I didn't have a problem with the idea so much as the execution. Jack going "ASHI YOU HAVE AKU'S POWERS" in like what, the last five minutes? Of the show was just stupidly funny. I don't remember if there was foreshadowing that she had them beforehand besides the circumstances of her birth to be fair to that plot point. I didn't have season 5 though, I just agree with the criticism that Genndy gets too caught up in the little things to the point it impacts plot advancement. Emma's Londong adventure was good, for example, but at the detriment of the rest of the group getting the spotlight in the *season, potentially series* finale. It's weird that last episode they made a point of Edred reflecting on his and Melinda's past and him accepting that she has actually changed, her actually dropping a hint that her feelings for him are re-surfacing, just for there to be no follow up in the next episode because he was barely in it, just as an example.
I mean, my response was >Oh frick! She has his powers! Use them to time travel!
And then she did.
So I guess that's why I wasn't as like >Oh my god!! Asspull!
etc. as people seem to be.
Like in my mind I was already thinking she should have his powers and should use them to fix the timeline. And then when it happened I guess I was expecting it. I don't know what people were expecting but I kind of got that vibe from the start that Aku was setting up to be his own downfall with the daughters fighting against him thing.
What? Criticizing aspects of the show doesn't mean someone down right dislikes it. As for unicorn it's the end of the season its only natural that people are gathering their thoughts, talking about what they like and dislike about it.
IC is well poisoning I think and it makes it unfun for people who generally just want to shitpost in threads for an aggressively mid cartoon with a serious case of creator daddy worship.
He kept using a similar image to this, just with the file named "Genndy’s career"
> "Genndy’s career"
kek that's kind of funny too, but a little too disingenuous. Genndy is going to get plenty of more chances to rug his audiences. Seems CN has literally no one else to go with.
>Seems CN has literally no one else to go with.
They have plenty of reboots and new creators to fall back on, they don't need Genndy. That's why they let AS have him.
I find it strange that it went from benevolent and protective to all consuming and constantly pissed in an instant. It doesn't even recognize Melinda anymore as I'm sure every time it spared Melinda's life that was all Morgan's doing.
>Tartakovsky felt that his father was a very strict and old-fashioned man, but they had a close relationship. His mother, Miriam, was an assistant principal at a school.
Do you project your fatherlessness on everyone in your life?
Just finished it.
The final episode is bad, no dancing around it. Can Genndy PLEASE hire someone who actually knows how to write? And more importantly knows how to write a story that can be contained within a single season?
Incredible work, old chap. Unicorn may have been a mess narratively, but like with Primal, Genndy's execution of his half-baked ideas made the whole thing a mostly enjoyable watch. No clue if a second season is likely, 'specially since the show barely made it through during CN's toothless new era, but I wouldn't be against more, assuming Genndy'd have audience feedback to take into account by then.
so if, during the "4 years" that Emma was gone, "The Evil" took over and warped all of reality and it was all fricked, howcome Emma didn't see any of that during the couple hours she was away? shouldn't that have started showing up?
oh come on. that's a pretty serious stretch and one hell of a coincidence. So if she'd been even slightly later, like by minutes, she would have seen it? or had she been a few minutes earlier, they could have won?
Has Adult Swim done any shows with more than 12 or 13 episodes in the last 10 years?
Even their low-budget 11-minute shows only get 10 episodes per season now.
nobody does. that's a thing of the past, along with basic confidence. the part that doesn't make sense is, if you're at the point where you consistently plan for failure, why not just stop entirely? How can you live that way?
>oh come on. that's a pretty serious stretch and one hell of a coincidence
There is no rule determining how much time passes between the two realms, or if it even makes sense to talk about events occurring "simultaneously" across them.
We know that the gap between Alfie being possessed and all of the warriors being sucked into the Cosmic Realm was much shorter than the gap between Emma being shot out and Emma getting back in, but the latter had a much shorter degree of time dilation.
Clearly, it works off "fate," which is to say that it works however is most convenient for the writers. >nobody does. that's a thing of the past
I'm pretty sure network TV still has ~22 episode seasons, including for animation. American Dad has them, too, despite technically being a cable show now.
So like, the question goes right back again
why bother doing this for the two immortals? Why not just leave them alone, periodically call them up with the newest incarnation of Seng, then yknow, if they ever fall in battle, NOW scoop their souls up.
So that they can go back to their original bodies when it's all over, and so that they don't die in an accident between fights.
>There is no rule
I thought it was pretty consistent with the two instances we got of it. The gap between Seng going into the realm and everyone else following him was ages, wasn't it? felt like ages. >network TV
but not NEW shows. a new show shows up, it gets 10 episodes. if it does REALLY well, season 2 can be 22 episodes.
>So that they can go back to their original bodies when it's all over, and so that they don't die in an accident between fights.
I'm just saying, why did they do that at the start, when everything was safe. Do we really think people who could just die from accidents are going to be able to save the world? it just feels weird that they had their souls sucked out "For later" when they would have still been here later, anyway. Putting them inside Copernicus, who is absolutely fragile, is putting all your eggs in one basket.
they really need to let go of the 22 minute episode ordeal since barely anything new is on tv anymore. why cram everything in under half an hour? also you have ad space that takes up 3 to 6 minutes of airtime. even commercials shouldn't be around anymore.
watching shitty cartoons makes me have sex?
Watching good cartoons will get you more sexual encounters.
You wanna kiss bro?
ok moron
your loss.
The quality of storytelling took a nosedive when they killed fox.
t. furgay
>furgay
HMOFAchad
It is true though, she was more endearing and entertaining than whatever the hell the evil shit has been for the past few episodes.
>t. furgay
Also true.
It's absolutely true. June gave a fave to the evil, without her It's just a mindless bland concept
What's the difference
It took a nose dive after like the first 3 episodes, there's a tonal shift and it begins to feel very directionless/random soon after.
We have the fox seemingly being set up as a major antagonist messing things up for unicorn including an early reawakening, zombie elephant, indirectly responsible for damage caused throughout London....only to get btfo by the kraken Emma summoned and that's basically the end of the fox as a threat and character.
There's also the Scotland Yard introduced in the 3rd episode, we see them attempt to handle the situation though I'm more disappointed that we didn't get shenanigans with them following/right behind unicorn's trail throughout London.
Honestly, the show feels really half baked because everything after the kraken just becomes a series of random occurrences.
>nose dive after 3 episodes
Why does this sound familer?
It’s funny because I remember how after the first three eps of UWE came out, we were talking about how they were so middling that it was actually almost a relief that this couldn’t possibly be another Samurai Jack season 5 scenario, and obviously the really good episodes must have been saved for the end on this one.
Hey at least with this the quality drop isn't so jarring.
Really 3 episodes in? It's been such a long time since I've watched s5 I genuinely don't remember lol.
Looking back on it the first few episodes are the most coherent, they build off what was previously established in the last episode pretty well even if they were little boring and set up the potential mystery. London was genuinely comfy too.
>was put off a bit past the midway mark when I started to realize that they were just gonna keep picking up and tossing aside new concepts instead of expanding on the ones they’d just got done setting up.
Easily my biggest problem with the show, either some plot points are resolved too quickly, action happens off screen or it's brushed aside completely.
Really disappointed the conflict between Emmalinda was solved this season but it also could've taken up less screentime that the other two warriors could've used and really some more interactions between the three.
>so he shoved everything in and let that come at a cost
Yeah this is what it's feeling like
3 were considered the highs with punished Jack and the bounty robot. After that complaints became the Ashie show, skipping over the destiny prediction, and ignoring interesting looking new chars. The asspull return to the past was just cherry on cake.
>The asspull
So tired of this shit.
Aku was complacent and stupid, and he ended up being the cause of his own downfall, IE he literally created someone with his powers that went against him, because anyone who spends a lot of time around Jack ends up good in the end.
It wasn't an asspull to make Aku his own downfall, it was just the kind of thing that Aku would cause.
Yeah and most of the people who complain about Samurai Jack's last season just go
>Jack shoulda stayed in da future, he shoulda cured da people, and all shoulda be good 🙂
Which is the same kind of asspull but even more predictable
Complacent, stupid, ... and lazy. Why would he spend all his ozze giving 7 people his exact powers instead of knock off goo and calling it a day?
Its an ass pull because to get to the resolution required throwing out what was being built up, the fact its a sudden revelation, and suddenly having jack change his mind after being presented with time travel chances for years.
Season 5 was more than what the show deserved, but it was clearly a final rush effort to resolve it all.
>Its an ass pull because to get to the resolution required throwing out what was being built up, the fact its a sudden revelation, and suddenly having jack change his mind after being presented with time travel chances for years.
Not exactly, no. He wanted to time travel for many years and couldn't quite get there. The one time he had a chance he stayed to save lives. Maybe he just wasn't ready to go yet.
In this instance I don't think Jack changed his mind, I think he just took the opportunity when it presented itself.
Full of himself, wanted to spread his evil so he gave the cult his seed so they could stuff it in themselves and give birth to Aku babies to kill Jack. It's not that difficult. when one was finally isolated and awoken from the cult, the human part connected with Jack, as all life with the potential for good does. Jack didn't change his mind, it was just the moment he needed. I don't think you guys would be happy with any resolution.
>I don't think you guys would be happy with any resolution.
Fair point.
>I don't think you guys would be happy with any resolution.
I've seen movies and shows where I found the ending satisfying. For example the Justice League season finales, Batman: the Brave and the Bold, Phineas and Ferb, Wander over Yonder, Futurama's season finales. Some anime too but it's off-topic, plus some comic runs. It's not impossible to make a good ending. Heck, the last Samurai Jack comic felt like a cool finale even if it didn't actually show how the story concludes.
Looking at Samurai Jack S5, Primal S2 and now UWE, Genndy has a pattern of wrapping up his stories in a terribly half-assed way. He consistently wastes screentime on irrelevant stuff which forces him to rush the final episode. There are some strangely amateurish writing goofs throughout those series, too.
Genndy can come up with some cool-looking imagery. But as a writer, apparently he needs people who will tell him "no" so that he won't get carried away.
Thanks for the well thought out response.
My only counterpoint for Jack is that Season 5 defintiely was leading us towards
>Aku is his own downfall, his daughter is going to one up him
It was almost predictable and didn't feel half-assed. I see that a lot of people think that, it still confuses me, but I accept it.
Have you seen Gurren Lagann? For many who are familiar with it, SJ S5 ending just felt like an inferior ripoff of it. I genuinely liked that ending back when I saw Gurren Lagann, but seeing it again in SJ just made me wonder if it was so similar accidentally or deliberately. Plus there were some key differences between S5 and TTGL endings. Those differences made the S5 ending suck while TTGL ending worked well enough.
I don't mind Ashi turning out to be Aku's downfall. That's fine enough as a concept. Problem is that they didn't write it very well. That's the main reason why people disliked it.
The anti-spiral’s connection to the waifu makes no sense whatsoever. It’s melodrama for the sake of it.
NTA, but even though I principally don’t have a problem with the concept of Ashi sending Jack to the past, the way it was presented still felt like an asspull because it was a grand revelatory show concluding development that shot past in literally five seconds. ““AshiyouhaveAku’spowers!”*gasp*”Ido!!”*screeech*” was awful.
I do understand how it was just out of nowhere, but, it wouldn't have taken long to decide time travel is the answer. Did you want them to discuss it first I guess? Or just take the time to discover she had the powers and test them? Or show them training her powers?
All of those are fine options. What I really just would have wanted is for the concept to have a little time to breath and sink in. I don’t care much how, I just know I didn’t like what they did do.
Maybe it’s something they could have realized was possible sooner than the last two minutes of the show, but then found out Ashi couldn’t immediately get the hang of it. So they could have a whole episode or whatever of her trying to figure it out, and then have a moment where she’s under great stress and finds the strength through the power of love or some shit. The show would have to be rearranged to accomplish that, of course, but I’m just throwing out ideas.
>The asspull return to the past was just cherry on cake.
That I remember, the abrupt
>"Ashi you have Aku's powers!"
Was lol
Like other anons pointed out it's the problem of trying to cram in too much into a 10 episode season.
I burst out laughing at the "ASHI YOU HAVE AKU'S POWERS" bit, holy hell I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
what was the point of her?
she did jack shit
Disappointment.
I am confused, was she not the green evil energy thing?
also I guess this is the backstory for Primal now, heh.
it's odd we didn't see eldred transform back when his spirit was yanked out but I guess it was only brief. so are we actually getting more?
They truly were … The Unicorn Warriors Eternal
>Unicorn
That's a wolf
>copies Gurren Lagann AGAIN
for Fred fricks sake
Mayor of Townsville
what's with all the combining worlds/multiverse stuff feeling more prevalent in media these past years
these don't look anything alike
>Heroes are questing to fix that, not have the apocalyptic world meld be the happy ending
moron
>moron dragon spewwing flames at a castle
>long neck looks like it wants to die
>Sauropod in a Genndy show
>Frickwild world like that to boot
You can't begin to imagine the shit that longneck has seen. Of course it craves death
Obviously that long neck managed to spy that zombie long neck shit. Its probably just checked out now that its seen reality have a seizure and bring in aliens, dragons, and frick knows what else
Unicorn vs the Furces of Evil
Genndy pulled a Takahashi and Xenobladed us. I love it.
it's nothing new of course, Samurai Jack had PPG elements in its past ruins.
let me guess, you were one of those saying Jack should have stayed in the shitty future
First half until Emma spoke to the heart was perfect, but after that felt rushed. I want season 2 just to see what they're going to do next and how messed up the world is.
>drag shit out
>rush the ending
It's a Genndy show.
Samurai Jack given him a free great ending he didn’t take.
It's weird how much better the ending in the Black Horse comic run was than the show's. Not sure why they just didn't adapt that instead
You mean the ending where nothing was solved and Jack was still stuck in the future? That "ending"?
>Undoing all of the damage in one go is realistic, anon.
This. Nothing about Genndy's ending was realist. Black Horse was at least true to the ending and didn't give it a happy ending.
I don't know about that. Having Samurai Jack wipe out evil and ruling the world in his service is a beautiful ending. It gives us a true payoff.
But that's not what Genndy gave us. Say what you will about Black Horse and how it was a nothing ending, it was still better.
I was referring to Dark Horse’s ending.
In Genndy’s ending, the Hopefulness against evil is literally erased from the dumb time rules.
Dark Horse's ending was stupid though and not at all what you're describing. Still better than Genndy though.
Who the frick watches Samurai Jack for realism? Do you hear yourself.
See
Genndy doesn't recognize his own show anymore.
The finale mindbroke them that badly.
Nobody mentioned realism.
It feels more faithful to the spirit of the original. Throughout the series, Jack had gone through countless adventures and befriended so many people in the future. An ending where he finally accepts what happened in the past and instead chooses to move forward by teaming up with all the allies and people he had helped to defeat Aku in the present would be way more poignant than the ending we actually got where all those characters presumably got erased when the timeline changed.
I could have accepted all of that just fine if not for the stupid Gurren Lagann ending thing, but to be fair I only saw a few episodes of the original while it was airing
The comic ended ina cliffhanger though
it's
literally
in
the theme song
he's gotta get back. back to the past. frick you and your intransigence.
It's DARK Horse you illiterate troglodytes. Forget comics, Cinemaphile can't even read titles and names.
This. Genndy was probably just triggered that someone had a better ending than him and he changed it to spite the fans.
Go to bed Genndy.
alright b***hes time for comparing time, which is better:
cliffhanger for this or cliffhanger for Primal season 1?
Primal mogs this in every way possible, and I hated the finale for the spear and fang story.
Both Primal and Unicorn sucked
It's less than the sum of its parts. BUT THOSE ARE SOME GOOD ASS PARTS
Warewolf Winston should be Brian
I imagine when they sat down to write every episode it went something like
>ok lord genndy sir so the last episode they end up at such-and-such, and did so-and-so. what do you think should happen next?
>I dunno. It's whatever. Hey lets make Winston a werewolf
>and then what sir?
>here's a tiger god I drew on the toilet. We'll make a battle montage of him and Merlin against the robots
>but... why?
>who cares, magic looks cool. slap it together would you? It doesn't matter.
Feels like Genndy made a first draft version of the story and drew up a big pile of story boards and then left the office and refused to answer calls and the crew was too scared to change anything Genndy gave them.
The epitome of hack hood
ted gennedy cannot write romance and he always drives his shows into a quagmire
Jab legit writes better romance than him.
I need my Mega fix man
Got a mega on the way, loves. Stay tuned.
i am not your love
You are now
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You are beautiful
Thank you very much, really appreciate it.
Did they seriously air test footage? At 20:36
Good catch. It's not in the Amazon rip.
Hunger Games going on right now. Enjoy the fun!
>Teams: https://i.imgur.com/vGMX5Ln.jpg
>The Cornucopia: https://imgur.com/a/x2qYvtY
>Day & Night 1: https://imgur.com/a/1rcof77
>Day & Night 2: https://imgur.com/a/gBoK8Se
>Day & Night 3: https://imgur.com/a/mQI0Er9
>show is so shit people are making hunger games instead of discussing the finale
Amazing
Why does this surprise you? This show has been shit from day one.
But people are doing both
>Day & Night 4: https://imgur.com/a/Np9fc4Z
>Day 5 part 1: https://imgur.com/a/O7u7Pe7
Starting to narrow it down to our finalists.
A kiss for you
>june way receives an explosive and dies accidentally stepping on a landmine
She just can't catch a break huh.
>Day 6: https://i.imgur.com/HjL9llJ.png
>FINAL FIGHT: https://i.imgur.com/OJWIcQ5.png
>Body count: https://i.imgur.com/nmDUzUL.png
Winner is under the spoiler.
WIZARDS ALWAYS WIN BABY
>when someone asks what happened after Otto's mothership showed up in the jungle
>Merlin's VA in the LatAm dub died a couple weeks back
>this was probably his final role
>it will be a b***h to find a suitable replacement for his voice if there is a second season
This is sad
guess edred killed winston
Waifuing with Emma ended
Now Clarice is my waifu
I hope these two get some more screen time in the second season. If it ends up happening.
>Now Clarice is my waifu
You just know Edred's body won't let a human female be single long
RIP Aeowulf
She is cute.
Clarice is going to end up being emma's mom or something
Her BFF is going to end up being the first monk
and its going to be a bootstrap paradox
Let me put it to you this way; Fricking Possible part 3 had me more excited this month than a single episode of Unicorn did.
It had a better ending too.
Don't lower yourself to the bait
naked edred on couch when
That sure was something I guess. Honestly I can understand why networks passed on this idea for so long. Like other then for himself who is this show exactly for? It's to much of a slow burn for kids/teens to get into, it's to cartoony in some parts for regular people to enjoy it. I don't want to shit on Genndy to much because this clearly meant a lot to him, but one of the most important lessons an artist will learn is that some times you just have to let projects go when they don't work and Genndy just clearly couldn't with this. I'm glad the people who enjoyed liked it but overall I thought it was just okay and nothing more.
Even if it's not his best I'm glad he got to make it happen. Maybe even continue it if there's another season
If not, then there's other projects on the horizon that might be a little smoother in practice
To be fair this is the same mantra that Genndy does with all his shows...
>Dex Lab - Way too weird and experimental with parodies of super sentai and kaiju movies
>Samurai Jack - SLOW AS FRICK with no dialog most of the time top it off with it being episodic with an ongoing narrative
>Symbionic Titan - It's ironic that his most accessible show from a marketing standpoint was his biggest failure
>Primal - Outright inaccessible for normies let alone the people who watch Adult Swim as it's pretty much just Jack but with more violence, slow pacing and ambience
Unicorn is just him going back to his Dexter days where he's just sticking shit on the wall and doing whatever he wants every episode at the expense of everything else.
Unicorn is a mixture of Jack/Primal and Sym-Bionic. The DNA is there. I don't think he went back to his Dexter days.
>Jack/Primal
Unicorn is way too fast pace and character driven
>Sym-Bionic
I can see especially with the love triangle and the character drama but Sym-Bionic wasn't all that experimental and was pretty straight forward whereas Unicorn is all over the place.
>Unicorn is all over the place
It feels like Genndy knows the show and the creative freedom that comes with it wont last so he's going everywhere he wants to as quickly as possible. Fox's death should have been the end of a season.
>Oh buddy
Oh homosexual
I said don't take the fricking bait
There's a difference between discussing the show critically and moronic flailing. Everyone knows the difference, don't dignify the morons with replies
I mean, most of the "discussion" is just people thirsting after ugly ass characters, so it's about the same quality.
What’s next for Edred?
Actually surprised by how little focus he got in this episode, there were times when he felt more like the lead than Emmelinda did. I'm guessing the love triangle shit isn't wrapped up but the actual reuniting with the group part was so rushed I can't really guess where else his character is gonna go.
where is this from? what are those boxes?
>where is this from?
Someone who worked on the show posted it.
>what are those boxes?
If I had to guess it's the frames where the shot will be cut.
korean animator?
The show is animated by the same studio that did Primal.
which I believe was french if I remember right
no animators in america? outsourced?
The Reawakened are among the few remaining people on earth who know of myth and lore and where the legends might be buried. They're going to be in high demand soon and finally using their knowledge to help the cause.
They're such lovable goofs but I wouldn't be surprised if they're sidelined/forgotten again for a number of episodes before we find out they've been in elf prison the whole time.
No logo version amazon rip
https://mega.nz/file/xkRkULzL#_TgUy3c-uXx7ubvUWryD3-JCLHqlAtU4RBKC9ckmUls
>Emma sideboob
expect more than that if they go forward with more seasons considering they'll know they're making it for [as] this time
thank god genndy's show didn't get dragged into deadend timeslot on CN
>all those equations
I never knew Emma was a certified genius/mathematician
Yeah, that’s a weird thing to put in at the very end of the season. I feel like that could have come up before, like any time she interacted with Winston or her parents, or that one time Copernicus was broken.
Does it have the production codes like in the adult swim airing?
No
Thanks!
why is emma an only child
It's the Victorian era. Chances are she didn't start out that way.
Honestly whoever suggested June ignoring everything going on with the main cast would be even better with how the season ended with the world going so insane
God I hope she comes back
Would you have watched UWE if it was an episodic Saturday morning cartoon with a few themes and plots here and there but the gimmick is that the characters reincarnate and change designs every new season?
Yeah probably
>Talked Sony into funding a movie about dog balls
What a fricking chad
Oh, and let's not forget a third season of Primal, a potential second season of Unicorn, and Black Knight whenever someone reminds him it exists
what about that black knight project?
Another Sony movie. We've seen like two total screengrabs but other than that radio silence for a number of years. It's still listed on the Sony website for their upcoming projects
>What a fricking chad
How is that a chad move? Wouldn't you rather see his fights and his direction of action cartoons on the big screen rather than gimmicky comedy?
Frick are you talking about? He's doing both. And yes, I also enjoy comedy alongside unga bunga like Primal
>He's doing both
I was talking about a movie and all his movies up to this point have been comedies. I want to see him do a self-contained action movie. I think it would be awesome.
Black Knight is going to be an action movie
Still gonna be leaning heavily towards comedy, I'm quite certain. Aside from being a Sony picture, the image we've got of the titular character is very cartoony
It could be another UWE where the tone and art style don't match.
Alternatively, that's not the final design.
Good. I will be waiting for it, if it ever gets released.(sony has a bad habit of disappointing its fans)
See
It's already a disappointment. Genndy is like the MCU in that he refuses to take anything seriously.
This looks more like a Warhammer character than anything "cartoony".
everyone and their mother in uicorn has big bushy brows
>Anons spitballing the idea of a knock-off Copernicus were right, but in a different context
Well I'll be
Copernicus is just so frickable though
>Copernicus
>COpeRNIcUs
>cornius
>unicors
>pecs
unicorn
Woahh..
copernicus is actually a human turned into a machine
>Guy experimented on into violent insanity gets a chance to do good as he is isekai'd (via giant mascot stomp) into a cosmic conflict to save the world.
Could honestly be cool
Any link for past episodes mega?
https://mega.nz/folder/0agBiRwI#fKksXyIGOnymEouIYxvxOA
I smell a S2. If Primal can get a S3 this will get another season.
Sex with Copernicus
I really like this show but I feel like it can do so much better so I'm gonna reluctantly give the season a 6.5. I'll never complain about more Edred but I don't know why he got the 40 minute episode and the finale didn't. First half of the episode was great, but I said that Genndy seems caught up in the side characters of this show doing wacky things and forgets to focus on the main cast more and this was the worst episode for him to indulge in that (even though Clarice and Lao were great). I'm not surprised that Otto and June didn't get any clarification in the face of the big reveal at the end- I'm sure we'll find out more but what happened is now small apples in the grand scheme of things. I think those anons who guessed that the show will end with the team fixing the timeline and all of the characters getting happy endings in the present/past will be right. For season 2 besides fixing the pacing, I kind of hope Edred and Seng get new outfits? Also if Merlin isn't going to stick around, I'd really like another girl to join the group. It's kind of a sausage fest right now.
>Genndy seems caught up in the side characters of this show doing wacky things and forgets to focus on the main cast more
Hopefully he's gotten it out of his system
I fell behind on episodes honestly (soft gave up around the time of elfman's first episode) so I was just cruising through the thread seeing if its even worth investing into the rest...
It's a easy watch even if its rough around the edges. So it's not a huge effort to finish it up if you ever feel like doing so.
>Emma was driven crazy by goth witch pussy too
how often does a new genndy work show up
He was basically consistently working during the 10s.
>Sym-bionic Titan
>Steven Universe pilot
>Hotel Transylvania movies
>SJ season 5
>Primal
>Now UWE and Black Knight
Man is an absolute workhorse but one is left to wonder if the combined masses of Primal, Unicorn, Fixed, and possibly Black Knight might be a little much to balance all at once
Well, Jack S5 was 2017, Primal 2019, and Unicorn started this year
Man Genndy really needs more writers to tighten up his premises and keep his stories on track. This is not how you do what's essentially meant to be a set up for the show intended to draw you in and definitely not how you end a series that will not get a season 2 made for a long, long time. So many ideas and concepts but not enough time to explore them.
Maybe people are too scared to say something to him? But seriously, he definitely needs someone to tell him when he’s trying to shove too much shit into too little time.
It’s like an ADD kid just throwing every idea he has in with little regard to the limited time
>Let’s have a random episode taking place in 1800’s Britain that’s only lightly thematically relevant halfway through the season after the cliffhanger, let’s have a 3 episode arc that doesn’t change where the protagonists are going at all and just acts as a detour
>ah frick I don’t have enough time to do everything I want to now, oh well!
>Maybe people are too scared to say something to him
I heard that The Wire had a roomful of writers that would frequently steamroll the showrunner and casually call him out on some of the less good ideas, and that played a part in how the show would turn out as popular and praised as it did. Just a little anecdote.
Keep in mind, live action and cartoons are produced differently. It wouldn't a 1:1 thing.
>Let’s have a random episode taking place in 1800’s Britain that’s only lightly thematically relevant halfway through the season
the relevance of that episode is stuffy oldfashioned thinking bad, darwin good
Writer's have no use for an inferior medium. Besides Genndy's ego would not allow it.
Based.
The best thing to do is to ask is, "what are the best ideas and characters to explore?"
10-episode seasons for shows like this have never made any sense. that's for like, british sitcoms.
Has Adult Swim done any shows with more than 12 or 13 episodes in the last 10 years?
Even their low-budget 11-minute shows only get 10 episodes per season now.
Born: 1970 (age 53 years), Moscow, Russia
Did you think Tartakovsky was an Irish name?
He could have been any flavor of slav.
I thought he was puertorican
i have crack theory that genndy really didnt want to do the linear mini series format for this show but was forced too and the WTF ending was just a excuse to do a more adventure of the week thing for the next season
Edred's pouty lips
you sure that's not an animation error? looks like the mouth was miscolored
Yeah it's an error I just thought it was funny lol
How did Emma learn quantum physics while Melinda was in her body?
Either she already had an interest in it and studied for it or Melinda being in tune with that sort of shit leaked into her brain.
>mfw I finally kms
She's legit gone bonkers and I wonder if when the time comes she'll actually be willing to split from Melinda
when she was crawling under the train, i legit though she went naked due to her nightgown being close to her skin color.
test
funny you could do a final fantasy run with four characters for melinda edred seng and copernicus
>They didn't address the Reawakeneds lack of a Edred equivalent
AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THE HAD TO BLUEBALL ME EVEN AT THE LAST MOMENT DIDN'T THEY, IT'S NOT FAIR
>They didn't address the Reawakeneds lack of a Edred equivalent
The prince of the north can't have children. Knowing how pissy the heart of the forest is, Edred and Copernicus can't risk pissing it off
I think Edred being a different species discounted him from their little group founded on the basis of their lineage. That or they hadn't found a descendant who was willing to join them.
yeah i mean he might exist but he wouldn't live with them so they wouldn't.. be a group together
can't have children? uh, unbroken line dude. he has to have children.
She looks really funny in this frame
Why are the vast majority of the characters in this show so fricking ugly? I like Copernicus and the original seng but otherwise they’re eyesores
Edred is the best looking by far
That's on you. I genuinely love the silly cartoony look of these characters
>when she redeems the card
>when she uses a toilet instead of the designated shitting street
I'll give the show this, its a reaction image gold mine
Based
Cringe
HE
What a kino ending for the season, I particularly liked the psychedelic animation and bringing back the reawakened.
Every episode should've had this quality and the show would've been a decent 8/10 but eh, the budget's what it is. I hope the baseline for S2 is higher and more consistent.
My favorite AMWF chuckleheads
I would imagine they're both celibate.
I'm certain the have held hands at least once
Totally
Love these two actually competent goobers. I hope they help/join the gang now that the world's officially gone topsy turvy
I really like blonde Emma
i like her feets.
for christ's sake anon, it's a motherly hug. i take it you've never been on the receiving end of one.
That is not a motherly hug. That's a hug between two people who have gone through shit together and have a bond because of it. I don't ship them, but that is not a motherly hug. I suppose you meant platonic.
felt super motherly to me. Not just because one's way taller, but because she's way older. Their relationship so far has been very much one of a stepmom or maybe big sister whose little sister just wants to be around her and she's NOT into it.
>Their relationship so far has been very much one of a stepmom or maybe big sister
At times Emma felt like the big sister of the two assuming you're saying Melinda is the step mom/big sister, as Emma acts much more mature than Melinda, while Melinda either avoids, threatens, or shuts down to avoid an uncomfortable situation.
you and i have very, very different concepts of maturity. Do you know a lot of chipper, optimistic older people? Sullen, brittle, beaten-down-by-life young people?
We do have different concepts of maturity, and we will not agree.
if 4 years passed in the cosmic realm and in dog years that would mean winston aged 28 years?
Winston died of a canine disease.
werewolf means he's pretty much immortal unless someone has a sliver bullet/knife ready
So glad Genndy didn't leave these two behind
There's so many frames to post
>emma literally screams I'm coming!
>has five souls enter her.
local british woman attends an orgy with intense soul bondage
>Lady Fairfax fainting when she hears three men, a woman and a dog have been inside Emma
This will forever be the greatest shame of the Fairfax family
>BRAZZERS
>Lao Xi has a heart attack while Clarice does interpretive dance
how would emma explain this to her grandchildren. then again, how can a steampunk london exist alongside magic when merlin exists?
I swear if the comics had Jack shitting in a bowl, people would say that was a better ending and they should have just adapted that instead.
are the VAs well known?
Grey herself, I suppose
Merlin's VA was in Primal Theory as Darlington
>He starred in the worst episode of Primal
Points against him I guess
When a gangsta is dissing your fly girl.
Watching this show is like you're skipping through scenes.
>Copernicar
My sides
What gets me is the little porthole they have to peer out of like they're wearing a Copernicus Cosplay
Everything about this show is memeable
It's really not screencap anon. Also why are you posting like every frame?
I really like this show and I felt like doing this
>autist gets obsessed with a meh cartoon so they screencap and post every single frame
many such cases
Unitards get more pathetic with each passing day.
Meant to post this instead
Is Emma dare I say pretty?
>wearing Melinda's hairstyle
>has adopted Melinda's power stance and her little french hat hair
Cute
I think Melinda won the Emmabowl and vice versa
Genndy show rating poll:
https://youpoll.me/103811/
Posting this here as a sort of test of interest or whatever, since it's 3 am here I doubt the later today to post a new thread dedicated to it.
>I doubt the later today
Holy frick how did I mess that up that badly? I meant:
>I doubt the majority of the board is awake, so I'll wait until later today to post a new thread
These two deserve their own spin-off
>CN/AS decide to expand this as a new franchise like ATLA and Gargoyles
>one of their plans for the Unicornverse is an X-Files style spin off for the Reawakened.
These super dorks where just WAITING to use their Copernicus car for probably ages
You think they scavenged Otto's factories or could their Copernicus car be a passed down relic?
I assume they made it themselves from depictions on cave paintings and tapestries
They most likely just made it since the time period they're living in is very steampunk. It's just a vehicle though so it's less impressive than the robots walking around with AI in them.
I thought the Copernicus car is the Copernicus that Merlin sends back in time, after it comes to life from the heart of the forest
Maybe that would have happened if time itself didn't get screwed up.
My guess is that Copernicus car was made by the Reawakened as a replica copy of Copernicus. So while Copernicus car could be commandeered by Merlin to become true Copernicus in some timelines, Copernicus car can’t be the original Copernicus. I think the “original” timeline wasn’t a looping self fulfilling prophecy like that, with Copernicus inspiring himself because of time frickery. I still think the very first original Copernicus was built by Otto in at least one possible timeline.
Now that reality has fallen apart, we may see multiple timelines mashed together and hopefully this means there’s a non possessed Dimitri that can exist alongside Edred
The show seemed more like a way for Genndy to shove in as many cool ideas and set pieces he wanted into a project rather than a vehicle to tell a good story. I stuck it through just to see how he’d end it and it turns out he didn’t. Guess we’re gonna have to wait like 2 years to see where this is going.
>The show seemed more like a way for Genndy to shove in as many cool ideas and set pieces he wanted into a project rather than a vehicle to tell a good story
Wow. It's almost like Genndy's a decent director but he couldn't write his way out of a paper bag.
>decent director
lol
lmao
Also artgays aren't writers period. Just look at comics.
The GOAT
>Emma leaves Clarice and Sheng behind with Aewulf and his army of Northern Elves
>Now both parties are stuck in a time-fricked period
uh.. hope they're okay?
I like how the went from Secret Order to larping nerds
>mfw he talks about the not
Winston remains best boy until the end
Winston is like the one redeeming factor in this whole series.
At first it looks like the series is gonna push him out of the story, and possibly kill him off to show that these supernatural powers are serious business. Or at the very least Winston's bride is gonna end up stolen by the elf prince who's destined to be with her because of wizards and ancient evil or whatever.
But Winston simply refuses to get sidelined. He keeps coming back and facing superhuman obstacles for the sake of his bride. Emma is behaving abnormally and something really weird is going on with her, so he's gonna do everything he can to save her.
In some earlier threads, anons argued that Winston seems overly-protective. He has a habit of ignoring what Emma says and following her to dangerous places. Taking such risks results in him becoming a werewolf. But he still sees the positive in it; his new powers help him stand on an equal level with Emma, and he manages to gain control of himself during his transformations. He even ponders the possibility of having a wolfpup litter some day.
Ultimately Winston manages to endear himself to Emmalinda while Edred keeps antagonizing her. The character chemistry is just totally different between Emmalinda/Winston and Emmalinda/Edred.
Winston's character caught me off guard. He barely showed up in any promotional material, so I thought he wasn't gonna be particularly relevant. I definitely wasn't expecting him to officially join the team and (as of now) get the girl. He's sometimes annoyingly pushy and I'm not fond of every joke he cracks, but I admire his determination to stay by the side of his woman.
Also, I'm angry about elves and that makes me inclined to enjoy Winston too.
>which seems out of character for him to forget something so important to Melinda
It's hard to tell if Melinda ever opened up to him about that, or if he's forgotten because the awakening went wrong and made his mind clouded.
>Also, I'm angry about elves and that makes me inclined to enjoy Winston too.
I was expecting the season was going to slowly reveal Winston was this petty selfish butthole and Emmalinda was going to decide leaving him or letting him die would make everything better, after that slight cut to smugly knowing Alfie's school was gonna get shut down.
turns out he's just a cheery chap with a heart of gold
Nice legs tho
Not only he's best boy he's also a good boy
I know he hasn't had much shit thrown at him like the rest, but I love Winston. The energy he brings is unmatched.
i gave up around episode 3. the show felt like it wasn't really going anywhere, and as much as i wanted to love the art, the weird betty boop humans really turned me off of it. during my short watch, it seems like there wasn't any attempt to rein in anything. it's very scatterbrained.
It's basically a sick parody of modern cartoons.
The mom from Petit Vampir?
Also don't worry I'm almost done
They should kiss
this was the closest thing to a smile Melinda has shown all season
>doesn't smile for her bf even once
>the only time she smiles is for a cute little brit
What did Melinda mean by this?
Here yah go anon! That was the last request! Thank you anons for such a fun time! I hope we get more seasons, but if not, it was a blast watching with you!
Pffft hahaha, 10/10 man.
Perfect
Sad to see you go, but it was a fine fricking ride here
This fandom has some dedicated drawgays who are also educated memelords. God I love it.
OOH BLESS YOU ANON! BLESS!
HOLY FRICK
You fricking ROCK, anon, god bless
If I wanted to see a girl going gay because of witchcraft I would've been watching The Owl House
I'm well versed in milf lore
I hope I don't get banned for posting this in a blue board
>Winston's soul is in wolf form
Yeah he's fricked good.
EL ORGYA COSMICO
>when you see a horrorfic monster but it's kinda thicc tho
?t=205
They could take on Goku maybe
HOLY FRICK I KNEW IT LOOKED FAMILIAR
Any webm anon?
I love what they did to the colors here
If you're gonna be posting MILFs post some Morgana too
After 1000 years she's still got it.
I hope she makes it during season 2
I hope so too. I can't see Genndy having her suffer three more seasons, on the off chance he gets four seasons and not two. Let her rest next season.
What in the golly ol' frick?
>we’re posting unrelated milfs now
Well, if you can’t beat ‘em’ join em’
Well this was a quite sufficient first season, I'm looking forward season two.
Also Primal crossover when?
Shit, dude, time being mashed together means Spear and Fang might actually make another cameo.
>Spear and Fang
Nah, it'll be Spearella with Fang Jr. and Red Jr.
>Spearella
is this official? because that's a shit name
No. I'm still peeved there is no official name for her or Fang's kids though
weird, i thought that she was called Javelin, to keep the weapon naming
I don't get it
>Fang's mate that lasted a single episode gets a name
>The children of the protagonists don't, in spite of Fang's kids being around longer
I don't recall that dinosaur getting a name
Red is just a commonly used nickname innit
David Krentz called him that. He's a mildly famous paleoartist who worked on Primal as a writer and storyboard artist.
I just call the kids Red Jr and Fang Jr.
The time getting fricked up might explain why they where fighting medieval french chain-mail and all the same week they plundered ancient Mesopotamia.
>Primal's fricky wucky anachronisms are due to the Unicorn time snafu
kino
unless Primal took place somewhere around in the 1000s?
>doesn't have "dad's trophy" written on the panties
one job artist, one fricking job...
It felt very unfocused
First half was good fun with schizo Emma, but as is typical for Genndy, the second half is rushed and messy, and I don't really even know if spending less time on Earth would have helped. Feels like we just needed a full 5 minutes extra, period.
I know Genndy wants 4 seasons for this, but has he even gotten a second season confirmed? Is this just gonna be another Sym-Bionic Titan?
Not yet but this seems like as good a time as any. AS seems happy with the show's reception and are giving it quite a bit of airtime. They've also greenlit more Primal so they're showing a fair degree of confidence investing in his shows
Genndy and Gaimax are one and the same.
i want to see Rome and Egypt vs dinosaurs
I feel like Gendy did a lot of homework preparing for Popeye, got his rug pulled, then looked to this show as some kind of autistic catharsis for all the wacky kitchen sink bullshit and rubber hose era aesthetic he wanted to do.
In hindsight I'm wondering, how did the seance manage to separate Melinda and Emma? Did the Indian guy just accidentally pull it off without ever realizing it? Or was it Emmalinda; did she always have the power to split herself up like that? After the Indian guy's confession that he's a total fraud, for a second I thought that Emma was about to realize she herself is innately connected to Melinda and has dormant powers, and she would've been able to somehow find her way back to Melinda on her own.
When they guys were fighting evil in the Cosmic Realm, did they ever consider implanting Melinda's soul inside one of the other warriors? It has been acknowledged that she's the most powerful out of them, so her powers would've been useful in the fight against the evil. What would happen if you put her soul inside one of the guys in the group, anyway? Would it still work? Apparently it does, since Emma gets the souls of four guys inside her near the ending. How did she know it was even possible to mash multiple souls into one body like that? Why didn't the hybrid become an amnesiac mess like Emmalinda used to be, or end up with only one soul overwriting the host's identity like with normal soul parasitism in this series?
How far away was the elf kingdom from London? I used to think it was in a foreign country since there were timeskips during the travel. During those timeskips, Winston had enough time to figure out how the werewolf transformation works. So I figured it must take weeks or even months to reach the elves. But apparently now it took such a short time that Emma didn't even have the time to change out of her nightgown.
How come they seem to have never talked about Morgan's links to the evil? In the flashback, it looked as if she outright transformed into the evil entity. It's weird they were so shocked to find her now.
>how did the seance manage to separate Melinda and Emma?
There is no answer. At first I was convinced that the show would reveal that Emma has some latent power on her own, but no. Perhaps it's some 'Nasty in the pasty' time travel thing since Merlin confirmed Emma traveled to the past and met child Melinda. Emma might be different because she grandfathered paradoxed herself to be. The rest of your questions I suppose the culprit is lazy writing and time constraints. The show is fun, but consistency is handwaved often.
>How come they seem to have never talked about Morgan's links to the evil?
The characters don't communicate much. However, at one time Emmelinda brings up Morgan to Edred, who then says he doesn't remember it which seems out of character for him to forget something so important to Melinda.
So if there will be a second season how will they handle the love triangle(or, square really)? Will both Edred and Winston just flat out stop their simping?
Winston only wants Emma while Edred only wants Melinda. They're not fighting over the same woman. It just looks like that since the women have been stuck inside the same body.
As long as the women are together, Winston seems to have an upper-hand. He accepts that Emmalinda is not quite the same person as Emma, but he's ready to be there for her anyway. Edred's been sulky and reluctant to acknowledge one half of Emmalinda's identity at all. I think he'll only have a chance if he learns to accept that Emma is a person too (and so is Dimitri but I guess nobody cares about that).
If they put an end to the evil and the warrior souls eventually get booted out of the host bodies, the love triangle/square should be instantly over. But both couples would still be dealing with some leftover problems.
In the case of Edred/Melinda, Edred doesn't have a physical body to return to. Maybe he can take over his brother's body and come up with some kind of a bullshit story to the elves? Or perhaps he just keeps jumping from one body to another?
I'm not sure where Melinda's physical body is and how easy it'll be for her to return to it. Did the elves take it with them when they imprisoned Merlin and took Edred's body, or does Merlin have it stashed somewhere? Is the body kept under the same sort of magical stasis as Edred's body? If it hasn't been stored adequately, is it possible for her body to have either aged or decomposed during all these centuries?
As for Emma/Winston, Emmalinda has been okay with Winston being a werewolf. Emma alone doesn't seem to be bothered by it, either. But if he stays like that and if they manage to change the world back to normal, it might complicate their lives a little bit.
This series still has not explained to me why the frick the body stealing mechanic needs to exist, apart from "it needs to happen so we have a show".
Edred can live for thousands of years, his real body was just hanging out in the forest in a coma for all this time.
Merlin the giga sorcerer is still alive and powerful after thousands of year. Surely Melinda, the child of two powerful giga-sorcerers, also lives naturally for thousands of years?
The only one we don't have an answer for is Seng because Genndy doesn't give a shit about him.
Why risk getting crippled or permadeath with your real body? It's fricked but it's better to fight the evil using some random pleb's skin that ideally you can give back later
I don't know how Merlin in the first episode knew that the evil will return and needs to be beaten back again later. And what was the endgame anyway; are the warriors just gonna keep putting the evil temporarily down forever, or did Merlin believe there was some kind of a way to defeat the evil once and for all? If he didn't even realize until the finale episode that Morgan was stuck inside the evil, how would he know anything else about the nature of this evil they're fighting?
>I don't know how Merlin in the first episode knew that the evil will return and needs to be beaten back again later.
Wasn’t it firmly established that he, Seng, and Tiger Dude can all see the future?
Oh yeah, you're right; I forgot about that.
Although involving time-travel will always introduce even more questions. Like for example, if Merlin already knows all kinds of key information about the future, what is he doing with that information. Has he ever looked into whether they'll defeat the evil and how long it's gonna take? Is he just letting all kinds of future calamities happen because the timeline can't be changed, or has he changed the future but it created alternate timelines with some new problems to deal with?
Seng said early on in the show that the future has been altered, so I guess that's possible in this series. But it's opening the door for all kinds of headache-inducing time frickery.
I’m sure there are other timelines. And the fact that time is not one solid linear block probably makes predicting it and controlling it all kinds of more difficult and complicated, and this is the reason Merlin and the others aren’t omnipotent and all powerful.
But at least simply taking a peek and seeing that the Evil was definitely gonna return should have been a short order for a guy like Merlin.
In a cartoon network show, it really doesnt make sense because you know the characters aren’t in any real danger. In an adult swim show, they really should kill off a host or two just to demonstrate that the threat level really calls for these measures.
Maybe in a prequel scene, they could establish that at some point they had more warriors on the team, possibly more monks like Seng, but they got offed and then that prompted Merlin to come up with the body swapping idea.
but the body swapping doesn't help if you get killed, right? Copernicus doesn't just suck up the soul and quickly find a new body, does he?
If the host dies, we have no reason to believe Copernicus can't snatch the warrior's soul for safekeeping.
However, since we have NO IDEA what the rules are for him selecting hosts - beyond it definitely not being reincarnation - it's possible that a dead host still means that warrior is out of the fight until their next go round.
So like, the question goes right back again
why bother doing this for the two immortals? Why not just leave them alone, periodically call them up with the newest incarnation of Seng, then yknow, if they ever fall in battle, NOW scoop their souls up.
>child
I wondering how Merlin doesn't know whats going to happen if he has been in the future.
I can’t help but wonder if this show would be better/more cohesive if it was made 10 years ago, or if it had gotten more seasons/episodes guaranteed at the start. It sorta feels like Genndy, who has been burned before, didn’t want to risk not being able to fit in any of his favorite ideas for his passion project into the 10 episodes he got, so he shoved everything in and let that come at a cost.
If that’s so then maybe season 2 could have a little room to breath now that he’s got all that out of the way. But this season was really supposed to be the hook that draws viewers in, and I was put off a bit past the midway mark when I started to realize that they were just gonna keep picking up and tossing aside new concepts instead of expanding on the ones they’d just got done setting up.
It’s been a long time since I watched Symbionic Titan, but I can’t help but compare the two. ST was what probably would gave been a really good 3+ season show with a really good first season of setup, but it unfortunately got canceled before it could move past that one season and get to what probably would have been a lot of the good stuff.
UWE is what probably also coulda been a really good 3+ season show, but it has like all 3 season’s worth of fun ideas crammed into one teeny tiny 10 episode season, without adhering to a proper structure and giving each individual idea the full time it needs to be set up, faced, and resolved.
Morgan being the heart of the evil all along feels like such an obvious reveal for a saturday morning style cartoon like this. But I gotta hand it to them that I kinda appreciate that Melinda and Merlin seem to have really WANTED her to be dead, because that made their lives and their mission so much easier.
A lot of other cartoon protagonists would face the situation Melinda and Merlin were in and say “No, it cant be! My mother/wife can’t be dead! She’s alive somehow, I just know it. I just need to go save her!” And instead Merlin/Melinda see her get zapped and immediately conclude. “Welp. She’s gone. She has to be gone, because the alternative to her being gone is that she’s inside of a monster that I have to kill, and that idea is so painful I refuse to conceive of it even for a second.”
Did anyone doubt Morgan was the heart of the evil? It seemed fricking obvious
No, once she was revealed people connected her to the voice Melinda heard back in episode 1. But the characters had no reason to think she was still alive.
You have a point that most of Cinemaphile's b***hing about the modern animation industry is a cover up for their own shallow wants but Unicorn def has flaws that drag it down.
I don't know what the frick many of you expect. We are lucky to get animation of even this quality greenlit nowadays and not just some mindless fricking garbage.
I’m really grateful we got the show in the first place, but that doesn’t change its flaws.
It's a fine show and all but the writing is pretty bad at times lol
Avatar: the Last Airbender is a pretty high tier cartoon with few flaws and even that would be torn apart on here if it was currently airing.
It is what it is, just unfortunate we have some dedicated autists trying to make Genndy notice them in these threads.
>even that would be torn apart on here if it was currently airing.
They tear it apart even today. Cinemaphile is just Cinemaphile lite now.
>Stop criticizing what I like!
No. Genndy has created a lot of top tier shows, so I was hoping for something that was on par with his previous work.
It is on par. It's just a new type of show for him.
It is not on par with any of his other works lol. I'll say it's better than almost everything else airing today, but that's like jumping a 2 inch bar and claiming you are on par with the Olympic gold medalists.
>I'll say it's better than almost everything else airing today
Meh, even I would contest that. Cinemaphile just hangs on to nostalgia too hard.
It's on par with a lot of Dexter's Lab, some of the filler episodes of Samurai Jack (did you forget the final episode for 10 years was Jack with a baby?), it's on par with the first few episodes of Primal, etc.
You're seriously skewed in your judgment my man.
>the first three episodes of Primal
L to the M to the A to the O
It's Max shills playing damage control for Genndy's new show.
>I don't know what the frick many of you expect
For Genndy to write a single story that makes sense. Do I really need to pretend that people shouldn't have higher standards for a man who is consistently referred to as a living legend in his field and has decades of experience in the industry?
And I'm not even saying that this makes the show irredeemable shit - the visuals are indeed really nice and it's great to see a well animated adult show that isn't some pseudo anime Netflix garbage for once, but it's perfectly okay to criticize the story, which is of far lesser quality. Why do you need to shut down discussion by throwing a Pokemon-tier "JUST BE GRATEFUL!!!!" at the thread? It has its strengths, and it has its flaws. There is absolutely nothing wrong with talking about that.
damn
june way feet never
I'm still bitter about Sym-Bionic Titan.
Genndy is too don't worry
Meh, i was just watching for the booty and the Alucard guy
Seng is a fricking weird character and was a source of great annoyance for me.
Yeah if you’re gonna have so much romantic drama, you really can’t stick on a third wheel like that unless you’re gonna either make him really solid and an interesting character all on his own, or have him be so inconsequential you barely notice him. Alfie/Seng is neither of those.
Pretty much yeah. I didn't care for him at all. I kept expecting Alfie to disappear and for Seng to become competent but it just never happened.
Being controversial or having a negative opinion of something that is new or finding it's footing or whatever doesn't make you clever or unique. It just makes you a boring contrarian.
When you use things like "mindless fricking garbage" for a show like UWE you show how absolutely out of touch you are with most modern cartoons. UWE is a gold standard next to something airing on Nickelodeon or Disney right now.
>BBEG is a giant funny face
Kino.
Are you joking....?
Dexter, Samurai Jack, Clone Wars, Sym-Bionic Titan, Primal
Hell I'd even go so far as to say the first Hotel Transylvania isn't bad.
Protip, if someone keeps saying Dexter is the only good show he created, it's likely industrycuck.
Don't take his bait, just laugh at his sad attempts to be relevant.
Yeah I mean I don't come to Cinemaphile often but this thread is kind of pathetic. This cartoon was clearly a cut above everything we've been given in the past like 5 or 6 years, and seeing people shit on it so completely is astounding to me.
Primal was made 4 years ago and obliterates this show so goddamn hard it isn't funny.
>It's astounding to me
People having different opinions is astounding to you? Jesus christ you're on the spectrum aren't you?
nta, but it's also astounding to me you can shit on a new show so fricking hard.
>Owl House
>Amphibia
Okay I should have known. You're posting shows for literal 12 year olds that some adults watch for fun.
>shit on it so hard
I've been pretty nice to UWE, I just think it's like a 6 to Primal's 9. If that's "shitting on it so fricking hard" then I don't know what to tell you.
Forgive the autists. They've never been allowed outside their play pen before so they can't handle people with different opinions.
>It's a 6 to Primal's 9
UWE is going for an all ages demographic and clearly tried to be more accessible to more people than Primal. They're not even the same category. On it's own UWE is like a 7.5 to an 8. Primal is of course a 9 but saying that UWE doesn't even come close to Primal in terms of quality seems really disingenuous and then I see someone using the term "Unitard"
I’m not the “unitard” guy. I think unicorn is a slightly above average show. Is that really too hard to understand? Again, if that’s “shitting on it hard” then I get the sense you’re thin skinned about cartoon opinions.
I agree with this. There is no nuance anymore, everything is a 1 or a 10, worst thing ever or the best thing ever, or as the kids say nowadays, peak or mid (even though mid started out as mediocre).
Also when did they remove the tbh filter?
>Also when did they remove the tbh filter?
They didn't but I think if it's the first word in a sentence it doesn't apply
>I’m not the “unitard” guy. I think unicorn is a slightly above average show. Is that really too hard to understand? Again, if that’s “shitting on it hard” then I get the sense you’re thin skinned about cartoon opinions.
Yes, it is. Can you name other shows you'd place in the same category as Unicorn? Because I can't. It's in a category of it's own for me. When I think hard, I can maybe place Gravity Falls and Primal around it on opposite ends, or Avatar and Sym-Bionic Titan but it's difficult to place.
Shut up dude, you're tiring.
>cut above She-Ra, Owl House, Amphibia, Infinity Train
Absolutely delusional lmao
Sorry if you think She-Ra, Owl House, and Amphibia are high quality all ages/adult cartoons you're moronic.
i give you Infinity train
the others? LOL LMAO EVEN
Yeah really.
I feel like you can very easily put most cartoons into
>THIS IS FOR KIDS
>THIS IS FOR KIDS, BUT ADULTS CAN ENJOY IT
>THIS IS FOR ALL AGES, NOT STRICTLY KIDS
>THIS IS FOR ADULTS
Owl House and Amphibia are STRICTLY in the "This is for kids" borderline "but adults can enjoy it" those shows are so simple.
Something like Hilda, Gravity Falls, Unicorn Warriors Eternal, etc. is in the all ages category and you can't compare those to shit like Owl House and Amphibia.
>seeing people shit on it so completely is astounding to me.
No one really is beyond voicing some criticism and it's not nearly as bad as it was in some earlier threads, there's even a lack of the typical schizos completely shitting up the thread.
>there's even a lack of the typical schizos completely shitting up the thread.
Oh really?
Yeah it's not nearly as bad as it was in other threads surprisingly
Tbh nobody online knows how to digest content these days without forming their opinion based on one extreme or another. If you say "it's fine but could be really great if it fixed its flaws" you get hit with "no it's shit garbage and the showrunners should kill themselves". You're not allowed to rate things as just good/average. Also the guy saying TOH/Amphbia is better is industrycuck trying to stir up shit to try and drag Unicorn into the stupid tribal bullshit that only he propagates.
Explains why he called Fang "Reddit" while posting the most generic babies first waifu tier characters imaginable.
>Unitards
This is another consistent schizo obsessed with the show, you can tell by this forced phrase of his.
I posted it once because I thought it was funny, IC just highjacked it. Every other time that's not the first instance is him. And it was specifically meant for the rare obsessive type that posts every frame kind of person.
Genndy's worst show by far. He really needs to slow down with the plot next season and flesh out the characters more
Oh jesus fricking christ.
Ok I know it can be hard to recognize bait but the guy saying the latest Disney/Nick show starring a perky brown girl mogs Unicorn is baiting you.
There actually was this diapergay who kept shilling Hailey while shitting on Genndy at every opportunity.
I wonder what the show did to flip the switch on so many schizos.
You do realize all you’re doing is making it harder to criticize anything Genndy related, right?
I don't know what to believe anymore.
>People are shitting on the show
>Now people are also shitting on fans of the show and saying they can't handle differing opinions
this is like self-fulfilling or something
>It's bad, this show mogs the shit out of it [insert bad, below average, or kids show]
>No it doesn't... That show isn't as good
>Wow this Genndy defender is autistic! What a Unitard!
>I like Unicorn, I don't see why people are hating on it
>It's average at best
>Okay, name other shows that are 'average at best' that match Unicorn
>Weeeweooo! WEEE WOOO, alert!! Alert! We got a Unitard over here! Wow, Genndy's fans are really autistic and making him and his shows look bad!
>Combining the responses of two different people
Really? Is that what we're doing now? I don't know why you're so up in arms over me not loving this show, I think it's fine, it's just not at the caliber of the rest of Genndy's shows. And if you think that saying it's not as good as some of my favorite shows is "shitting on it" then that's on you.
>Aelfwulf's face when he lets the crazy human touch the heart of the forest and then 20 minutes later there's a dinosaur walking through his kingdom
Elves are built to suffer.
Winston coming up with names for the different fusions was cute.
What the frick was the point of the Rakshasa? He died offscreen, did nothing in the Cosmic Realm, and then died offscreen again.
To cue Seng that something was wrong and move the plot forward though it probably would've been best if he hadn't been introduced at all or if he had stayed dead the first time. His addition felt very tacked on.
>Not muh linda
>muh linda
>M'linda
I think if Edred were that obese Winston wouldn't be able to make fun of him cause he'd be too busy laughing his ass off
Shut the frick up moron, no one's forcing you to shit these threads up
It's not nearly that bad, not much comes close to sabotaging food for show staff over shipping bullshit.
The fact that you're so hostile to UWE Critical kind of proves their point.
I'm not, I've been pretty critical of this show since episode 1 and I've responded in kind to reasonable criticism from other anons.
No you homosexual, legit criticism is fine and I've lobbed some of it myself, but this homosexual trolling that rolls into concern trolling when they get hit back is cringe.
If you can't tell the difference then kindly suck-start a shotgun.
I don't understand what IC's goal is here. He makes it very hard to say anything negative without being accused of being a schizo, so if he hates Genndy wouldn't that be the opposite of what he wants? Does he have another goal or is he really just that dumb?
IC is well poisoning I think and it makes it unfun for people who generally just want to shitpost in threads for an aggressively mid cartoon with a serious case of creator daddy worship.
There was barely writing in this and it immediately went off the rails. Its just throwing ideas and abandoning them. All the characters are very 1 dimensional, like Emma's parents or just the main cast really. It reads like this used to be a concept for comic, but got animated instead.
>Why or what is the evil doing? Why did the evil jump into cosmic only now?
>Why was Melinda's magic the evil?
>Charlatans were banned by the police, yet this isn't reflected at the last episode.
>What was the fox? Where did the fox go? Who betrayed the fox? What was the fox doing?
>What was wrong with host bodies?
>When everyone combined their souls, what about the hosts?
>Why is the fox employing Otto bots?
>The tiger is pointless.
>What point is there combining Souls/powers really? It never did strengthen Melinda, that was never established.
>If Otto made Copernicus, then why is he dead?
>Isn't Otto kinda of a big deal? Shouldn't his death be felt by London? What was he mining?
>Why Unicorn? Where is the unicorn?
>Why is Winston in control or permanently a werewolf?
And now they're in another dimension/timeline frickery where everything pre-established doesn't matter.
You make some good points but I think a few of your questions have answers.
>Why or what is the evil doing?
I think it’s probably just a mass of mindless raw emotions born out of strife and its only purpose is to cause destruction. Probably not worth overthinking. Alternatively, it’s demons.
>Why did the evil jump into cosmic only now?
It didn’t have an opportunity to jump into Seng or any other cosmic monk. Seng’s previous hosts might have left him more competent at not letting that happen, but Alfie was vulnerable.
>What was wrong with host bodies?
They’re too young. Their brains, bodies, and minds are not suited to the possession. I think this is adequately covered without being spelled out too condescendingly.
>When everyone combined their souls, what about the hosts?
Alfie and Emma were there. I guess Dimitri was still asleep, or maybe he just kept quiet because he would have no idea wtf was going on. That’s actually kinda funny to imagine, now that I think about it.
>What point is there combining Souls/powers really? It never did strengthen Melinda, that was never established.
I thought it did. Emma says so directly, and then they do it and are actually able to hold their own against The Evil, where they couldn’t do so prior. It’s a pretty typical season finale kinda power up.
>If Otto made Copernicus, then why is he dead?
Alternate timeline shenanigans.
>Isn't Otto kinda of a big deal? Shouldn't his death be felt by London? What was he mining?
This stuff doesn’t have a lot to do with Unicorn’s story and is appropriate to leave offscreen.
>Why Unicorn? Where is the unicorn?
This point is probably best left for a later season if they really must insist they need more. There’s no way they could satisfyingly fit it into this first one and given it the attention it deserves. It’s a later season kinda question. Though if this were meant to be a miniseries with only this standalone season then that would be a fair point.
No offense to the anon you responded to but some of his questions can be answered by watching the show, putting in a little thought or as you put it, are "a later season kinda question. ".
I like it, it has problems but I won't say no to a season 2.
I'm convinced the people who watch this show and dislike it and also dislike the final season of Samurai Jack are just full of themselves.
Aku's daughter having Aku's powers is an asspull? I think it's the other way around, why wouldn't she have them?
Tbh I didn't have a problem with the idea so much as the execution. Jack going "ASHI YOU HAVE AKU'S POWERS" in like what, the last five minutes? Of the show was just stupidly funny. I don't remember if there was foreshadowing that she had them beforehand besides the circumstances of her birth to be fair to that plot point. I didn't have season 5 though, I just agree with the criticism that Genndy gets too caught up in the little things to the point it impacts plot advancement. Emma's Londong adventure was good, for example, but at the detriment of the rest of the group getting the spotlight in the *season, potentially series* finale. It's weird that last episode they made a point of Edred reflecting on his and Melinda's past and him accepting that she has actually changed, her actually dropping a hint that her feelings for him are re-surfacing, just for there to be no follow up in the next episode because he was barely in it, just as an example.
I mean, my response was
>Oh frick! She has his powers! Use them to time travel!
And then she did.
So I guess that's why I wasn't as like
>Oh my god!! Asspull!
etc. as people seem to be.
Like in my mind I was already thinking she should have his powers and should use them to fix the timeline. And then when it happened I guess I was expecting it. I don't know what people were expecting but I kind of got that vibe from the start that Aku was setting up to be his own downfall with the daughters fighting against him thing.
What? Criticizing aspects of the show doesn't mean someone down right dislikes it. As for unicorn it's the end of the season its only natural that people are gathering their thoughts, talking about what they like and dislike about it.
I think he's back
He kept using a similar image to this, just with the file named "Genndy’s career"
> "Genndy’s career"
kek that's kind of funny too, but a little too disingenuous. Genndy is going to get plenty of more chances to rug his audiences. Seems CN has literally no one else to go with.
>Seems CN has literally no one else to go with.
They have plenty of reboots and new creators to fall back on, they don't need Genndy. That's why they let AS have him.
I wonder would Melinda have eventually gotten possessed by The Evil if its aggressive side hadn't attacked Morgan instead.
I don't think so, the evil side was defending Melinda, not attacking her.
I find it strange that it went from benevolent and protective to all consuming and constantly pissed in an instant. It doesn't even recognize Melinda anymore as I'm sure every time it spared Melinda's life that was all Morgan's doing.
He had to samegay about fathers twice too cause he didnt get a response the first time lol
Fatherlessness seems to be a huge trigger for him.
>Tartakovsky felt that his father was a very strict and old-fashioned man, but they had a close relationship. His mother, Miriam, was an assistant principal at a school.
Do you project your fatherlessness on everyone in your life?
Thread is a fricking dumpster fire. Here's to a season 2 tho.
No idea who Ruby Gillman is so I don't care.
It's me, I am the superior media.
>they reference superior media.
The buster lesbo series suck.
what the frick are you talking about
Sexism. Duh.
He's spamming schizo shit, don't engage.
Are you on drugs?
This is actually pretty relevant to Unicorn and its handling of female characters.
You're pretty relevant to handling my balls tbh
New thread when?
There's another one here
It's got some interesting quotes from an interview.
kinooo
It's a very well animated clusterfrick.
>post count drops by like 40
lmao
We're back in it UniCHADs.
Emma is the cutest cutie that ever cuted!
I like the semi-goth look she has when she's joined with Melinda but going back to her natural hair color and the nightgown was quite cute
>when you ask for bobs and vagene
>but she instead sends peen
Yes, very cute.
Melinda and Emma reuniting was surprisingly cute.
For a second it looked like they were about to make out.
Cute
Why the hell is merlin even part of the team now, seems more fitting that he'd be the figure in the background guiding them.
He was part of the team in the beginning though. The elves just messed things up.
I now know what would happen if a 12 year old with ADHD was allowed to write a high budget cartoon.
So what was Otto's deal?
Just finished it.
The final episode is bad, no dancing around it. Can Genndy PLEASE hire someone who actually knows how to write? And more importantly knows how to write a story that can be contained within a single season?
I like the writing, but the pacing is always atrocious on latter-day genndy stuff. i don't get it. I guess he just needs more episodes.
yes, this worked for me too.
sorry, what did werewolf fella say? "The rochessar, he's gone" ???
oh the rakshasa
i forgot about him
Emma says 'Melinda and I became one and she unlocked more power than she had before' .. she did? it wasn't just the same regular power she always had?
No one else comments that Emmelinda is stronger than regular Melinda. Ms. Fairfax thinks too highly of herself.
>needs to use a time-dilated dimension to get things accomplished in time for the final episode
Genndy man, come on.
to the anons in yesterday thread
>Red Sonja req fulfilled plus the bonus on the right
Naaaaice
Incredible work, old chap. Unicorn may have been a mess narratively, but like with Primal, Genndy's execution of his half-baked ideas made the whole thing a mostly enjoyable watch. No clue if a second season is likely, 'specially since the show barely made it through during CN's toothless new era, but I wouldn't be against more, assuming Genndy'd have audience feedback to take into account by then.
so if, during the "4 years" that Emma was gone, "The Evil" took over and warped all of reality and it was all fricked, howcome Emma didn't see any of that during the couple hours she was away? shouldn't that have started showing up?
It happened some time between Emma entering the portal and Emma actually arriving in the Cosmic Realm.
oh come on. that's a pretty serious stretch and one hell of a coincidence. So if she'd been even slightly later, like by minutes, she would have seen it? or had she been a few minutes earlier, they could have won?
nobody does. that's a thing of the past, along with basic confidence. the part that doesn't make sense is, if you're at the point where you consistently plan for failure, why not just stop entirely? How can you live that way?
>oh come on. that's a pretty serious stretch and one hell of a coincidence
There is no rule determining how much time passes between the two realms, or if it even makes sense to talk about events occurring "simultaneously" across them.
We know that the gap between Alfie being possessed and all of the warriors being sucked into the Cosmic Realm was much shorter than the gap between Emma being shot out and Emma getting back in, but the latter had a much shorter degree of time dilation.
Clearly, it works off "fate," which is to say that it works however is most convenient for the writers.
>nobody does. that's a thing of the past
I'm pretty sure network TV still has ~22 episode seasons, including for animation. American Dad has them, too, despite technically being a cable show now.
So that they can go back to their original bodies when it's all over, and so that they don't die in an accident between fights.
>There is no rule
I thought it was pretty consistent with the two instances we got of it. The gap between Seng going into the realm and everyone else following him was ages, wasn't it? felt like ages.
>network TV
but not NEW shows. a new show shows up, it gets 10 episodes. if it does REALLY well, season 2 can be 22 episodes.
>So that they can go back to their original bodies when it's all over, and so that they don't die in an accident between fights.
I'm just saying, why did they do that at the start, when everything was safe. Do we really think people who could just die from accidents are going to be able to save the world? it just feels weird that they had their souls sucked out "For later" when they would have still been here later, anyway. Putting them inside Copernicus, who is absolutely fragile, is putting all your eggs in one basket.
Alfseng warned that the Cosmic realm is wibbly wobbly timey wimey things.
being russian isn't a mental illness
it's just a risk factor for mental illness
>Copernicus embarrassed about the others seeing him cry
D'awww
they really need to let go of the 22 minute episode ordeal since barely anything new is on tv anymore. why cram everything in under half an hour? also you have ad space that takes up 3 to 6 minutes of airtime. even commercials shouldn't be around anymore.
commercials still do make money