its 'Superman vs The Elite' only with The Authority instead of The Elite and The Authority are meant to represent "Zack Snyder style superheros" being defeated by wholesome reddit style Superman
that just is the plot of the movie, if you dislike zack snyder type "superheros" then its something you'll probably enjoy quiete a bit since appolo is basically henry cavil superman (except gay and blond) in the script.
Wrong. The Authority is coming after Superman and the only reason they're introducing them is for Midnighter and Apollo since they can't make Superman/Batman gay.
>Sounds based, especially if Superman literally says "what's so funny about truth, justice and the american way?" >American way
Yeah, sure thing homosexual. The woke liberal who made the suicide squad an allegory for "American Imperialism" is going to write a Superman who believes in the American way.
Not to mention that Gunn said that he cast John Cena as Peacemaker so he could make fun of action movie stars like Sylvester Stalone because movies like Rambo were too gay and problematic for him, since the hero, Rambo, was too muscled for him and jingoistic in nature.
At first the concept sounded based; Superman represents good old fashioned ideals of justice, like the Golden Age comics, and the Authority modern moral degeneracy, and the story will be about how strong belief in good and evil triumphs over edgy modernism. But considering the current cultural zeitgeist and who's making this, they're gonna make the Authority into far-right chuds and Superman the good compassionate liberal aren't they?
They'll probably frick it up and everyone will like the Authority and hate Superman. Soldier Boy turned out to be everyone's favorite character after all.
>Sounds based, especially if Superman literally says "what's so funny about truth, justice and the american way?" >American way
Yeah, sure thing homosexual. The woke liberal who made the suicide squad an allegory for "American Imperialism" is going to write a Superman who believes in the American way.
Sounds based, especially if Superman literally says "what's so funny about truth, justice and the american way?"
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He's supposed to be running this division of the company, if he can't even pretend the shit they release is awesome he loses his job pretty quick
I would 100% watch a Superman vs The Elite live action, the cartoon wasn't bad. Not to mention Britgays would angrily menstruate out of their neovages over it. The point of Manchester Black (the guy with the union jack shirt here) was to make fun of the "British Invasion" writers who coined terms like "capeshit" who were all butthurt degenerates who hated that they could only get work writing super hero comics, so they spent decades trying to kill the industry, it's making fun of the fact that hypocritically they all just made the same character over and over. Dark coat, sunglasses, lots of guns, psychic powers, sneering sociopath, five o clock shadow. They just swapped capeshit for coatshit. Superman vs The Elite takes a big steaming shit one coatshit and the worthless frickwits who like it. (If you like The Boys, I'm talking about YOU.)
I'll be happy if he's fighting someone who isn't Lex Luthor or a Kryptonian though. He's got so many fricking great villains, but we just get the same shit over and over.
I never realized how long it had been since I'd last read Superman comics until looking at this image.
Who's the black and white lady? And everyone in the last row besides Cyborg Superman?
>I'll be happy if he's fighting someone who isn't Lex Luthor or a Kryptonian though. He's got so many fricking great villains, but we just get the same shit over and over.
At this point I would like to see a film in which Superman has already been Superman for at least 5 years. Do something like: >open the film by having Superman mid-way through fighting the likes of Livewire or Silver Banshee >roll pre-credits >we briefly see Clark at home talking over the phone or at work, with Lois saying she is working on a article about the 5th year anniversary of Superman defeating General Zod (maybe have a line about how everyone other than Lex Luthor is celebrating) >the main plot begins when Mr Mxyzptlk shows ups, and the story is about an experienced Superman dealing with such an outside-context problem
>I'll be happy if he's fighting someone who isn't Lex Luthor or a Kryptonian though. He's got so many fricking great villains, but we just get the same shit over and over.
Brainiac seems like the obvious choice.
Manchester Black is a knockoff Jenny Sparks. The Elite were always meant to be a spoof on the Authority, which was owned by a different company at the time.
>His favorite superhero movie is Into the Spider-verse and Spider-Man: Homecoming >Spider-Man: Homecoming
Woof. Just when I thought Gunn couldn't have shittier taste.
>Lex Luthor gets Superman cancelled and fired from the JLA by dredging up months old tweets about raping children and babies and Superman has to try to salvage his reputation by publicly apologizing and getting his powerful friends to explain that they were several hundred isolated incidents and not a true reflection of his character
Cavill's Superman felt like you could live nextdoor to him. He felt like an actual guy.
This sounds like they're going to make a Superman that when you look at him you dont see someone inspirational.
This Superman is going to be the basedboy cuck liberal beta of the Supermen.
He's going to feel exactly like Cavill did in the Joss Whedon's cut of the Justice League. Less of a real person and more like a caricature of what people think Superman is like. Fake smiling, nothing but nice PR talk, corny phrases like "hope is like a lost key", and so on.
Gunn is such a weird guy to get doing Superman. I can sort of see where Warner Bros. is coming from in hiring him but, getting him to creatively oversee a DC cinematic universe is a mistake. His decisions for the line-up are baffling - the sort of projects you do not from the opening but 10-20 years into it.
A reminder that the first GOTG was so good because it was co-written by Nicole Perlman. GOTG2 was noticeably shittier without her.
Superman Legacy doesn't have co-writers either.
That is legit the thing that has me most concerned. If Superman gets made into an absolute cuck and Lois is turned into a domineering b***h, blame Tom King for that
Don't forget the hilarious PTSD moments that comes out of nowhere an is badly fitting with Superman for example having a panic attack imagining Lois dying or getting gangraped, all because King likes to compare being a superhero to glowBlack folk for some stupid reason.
He also >had Mister Miracle (a relic of the optimistic silver age and one of Jack Kirby's most classic creations) attempt suicide despite the fact he had a pregnant wife at the time >had Ice (previously portrayed as a very sweet, feminine girl) murder Guy Gardner by turning him to ice and shattering him >had Riddler start a war in Gotham City because he wanted to cure Joker of his depression (the arc was literally called "The War of Jokes and Riddles") >did all of the above thinking they were all "subversive masterpieces" on the level of Watchmen
How anyone, let alone the guy who's suppose to run DC movies, think this is good is beyond me
>>had Ice (previously portrayed as a very sweet, feminine girl) murder Guy Gardner by turning him to ice and shattering him
What did Guy do to deserve that?
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I really can't be bothered to look it up but off the top of my head he found out she was involved in some criminal conspiracy and was confronting her about it
I never realized how long it had been since I'd last read Superman comics until looking at this image.
Who's the black and white lady? And everyone in the last row besides Cyborg Superman?
Black and White lady >Silver Banshee
Lower row from left to right >Imperiex >don't know >Cyborg Superman >Ultra-Humanite >Eclipso
>>had Riddler start a war in Gotham City because he wanted to cure Joker of his depression (the arc was literally called "The War of Jokes and Riddles")
Why does Riddler care about Joker?
>Gunn's version of the Man of Steel, whom he describes as "a big ol' galoot," is believed to be loosely inspired by Grant Morrison's fan-favorite All-Star Superman. That said, Gunn has indicated that Superman: Legacy is not a direct adaptation of Morrison's work. >big ol' galoot
So a goofy clumsy moron. Amazing. Bravo, Gunn!
But... Superman wasn't a big ol' galoot in All-Star Superman. If anything he was serious, preoccupied and even conflicted in it since... you know, he was dying from super cancer and was trying to put all his affairs in order both as a hero and as a person before going to the great beyond.
The comic tone wise feels closer to Superman II than the first Superman movie.
Gunn is just there to steal money from DC before the company dies. Superman Legacy will fail and Gunn will quietly walk away with his millions. None of the other slated movies will come out.
He will fight Nazis. Or Russians. Or Russians who've teamed up with Nazis and are marching towards Capitol Hill on January 6th to overthrow the USA's first gender non-conforming president.
Clearly he's going to fight The Authority which in this version will be a publicly loved superteam created and run by Lexcorp. Clark Kent is going to investigate them and discover their secret crimes to empower Lex and then take them down as Superman.
In Superman vs The Elite it was him fighting an ersatz Authority, this time he'll be fighting an ersatz The 7.
The Authority was such a cool comic. Yes, it was essentially a parody of the Justice League but Warren Ellis and the other British writers that worked on the comic played the concept straight and actually put effort in making each character different and each story interesting. It wasn't even bashing the Justice League as a concept.
Meanwhile Superman vs The Elite was written by a Superman fanboy angry about The Authority comic getting so popular in the 2000s - of course it became popular, it was well-written and had good art. So he just wrote Superman beaten up a strawman version of the Authority in the most passive-aggressive way possible.
Now DC owns The Authority and all they use the team for is so they can smash some toys against the Justice League characters or much more commonly as antagonists for Superman to beat up or demoralize. This would be like if DC managed to buy the Avengers and from that point forward all the Avengers were good for was for DC to publish stories where Superman gets to teach Captain America or Iron Man how to be better heroes.
>Superman starts off doing Superman stuff >takes lois to fortress for an interview and shows off all his cool silver age style stuff >is wistful for old krypton because he feels like he doesn’t really fit in on Earth >Brainiac Skull ship shows up and Superman gets zapped into bottle city of kandor >wakes up in hospital and everyone tells him he was in a coma and Earth was all a dream >meets up with his old boy hood dog Krypto and they manage to escape >Superman realizes that he belongs on Earth and that he shouldn’t be stuck thinking about the past on krypton >defeats Braniac and saves Metropolis and Kandor
its 'Superman vs The Elite' only with The Authority instead of The Elite and The Authority are meant to represent "Zack Snyder style superheros" being defeated by wholesome reddit style Superman
What a fricking waste of time.
>wholesome reddit style Superman
new buzzword dropped
james gunn superman is literally called a redditor by lois in the script and "reddit" nor "wholesome" are not buzzwords you ESL moron
>literally called a redditor by lois
Please please please tell me you’re joking
Good morning, Sir!
that just is the plot of the movie, if you dislike zack snyder type "superheros" then its something you'll probably enjoy quiete a bit since appolo is basically henry cavil superman (except gay and blond) in the script.
Wrong. The Authority is coming after Superman and the only reason they're introducing them is for Midnighter and Apollo since they can't make Superman/Batman gay.
>they can't make Superman/Batman gay
Are you sure about that?
Lmao, wait is the new guy playing Superman?
Gay face doesn't lie.
>Superman is now an autistic homo
Damn you Gunn
>Pedo homosexual director is just there to hire and lust after gay ass
Why does this keep happening to Superman?
Hollywood is ran by a tribe of gay pedophiles, they operate entirely through blackmail and nepotism
What a disgusting homosexual. Cavill was once in a lifetime casting and we'll never have an actual human being as Superman again.
Can we just start calling him bizarro Cavill or just bizarro Superman?
He doesn't deserve to be called Cavill anything
Sounds based, especially if Superman literally says "what's so funny about truth, justice and the american way?"
He's supposed to be running this division of the company, if he can't even pretend the shit they release is awesome he loses his job pretty quick
>Sounds based, especially if Superman literally says "what's so funny about truth, justice and the american way?"
>American way
Yeah, sure thing homosexual. The woke liberal who made the suicide squad an allegory for "American Imperialism" is going to write a Superman who believes in the American way.
Not to mention that Gunn said that he cast John Cena as Peacemaker so he could make fun of action movie stars like Sylvester Stalone because movies like Rambo were too gay and problematic for him, since the hero, Rambo, was too muscled for him and jingoistic in nature.
At first the concept sounded based; Superman represents good old fashioned ideals of justice, like the Golden Age comics, and the Authority modern moral degeneracy, and the story will be about how strong belief in good and evil triumphs over edgy modernism. But considering the current cultural zeitgeist and who's making this, they're gonna make the Authority into far-right chuds and Superman the good compassionate liberal aren't they?
>they're gonna make the Authority into far-right chuds
they're probably gonna make them like Homelander from The Boys so yeah.
They'll probably frick it up and everyone will like the Authority and hate Superman. Soldier Boy turned out to be everyone's favorite character after all.
Modern DC doesn’t like Superman using the term “American Way” anymore
“The American Way” is now state enforced sodomy in the third world under threat of military invasion
I would 100% watch a Superman vs The Elite live action, the cartoon wasn't bad. Not to mention Britgays would angrily menstruate out of their neovages over it. The point of Manchester Black (the guy with the union jack shirt here) was to make fun of the "British Invasion" writers who coined terms like "capeshit" who were all butthurt degenerates who hated that they could only get work writing super hero comics, so they spent decades trying to kill the industry, it's making fun of the fact that hypocritically they all just made the same character over and over. Dark coat, sunglasses, lots of guns, psychic powers, sneering sociopath, five o clock shadow. They just swapped capeshit for coatshit. Superman vs The Elite takes a big steaming shit one coatshit and the worthless frickwits who like it. (If you like The Boys, I'm talking about YOU.)
I'll be happy if he's fighting someone who isn't Lex Luthor or a Kryptonian though. He's got so many fricking great villains, but we just get the same shit over and over.
I never realized how long it had been since I'd last read Superman comics until looking at this image.
Who's the black and white lady? And everyone in the last row besides Cyborg Superman?
>black and white lady?
Silver Banshee
>everyone in the last row besides Cyborg Superman
Imperiex, Conduit, The Ultra Humanite and Eclipso.
Thank you so much! I had a crazy false memory of Eclipso having a female host, so there's that.
>I'll be happy if he's fighting someone who isn't Lex Luthor or a Kryptonian though. He's got so many fricking great villains, but we just get the same shit over and over.
At this point I would like to see a film in which Superman has already been Superman for at least 5 years. Do something like:
>open the film by having Superman mid-way through fighting the likes of Livewire or Silver Banshee
>roll pre-credits
>we briefly see Clark at home talking over the phone or at work, with Lois saying she is working on a article about the 5th year anniversary of Superman defeating General Zod (maybe have a line about how everyone other than Lex Luthor is celebrating)
>the main plot begins when Mr Mxyzptlk shows ups, and the story is about an experienced Superman dealing with such an outside-context problem
>I'll be happy if he's fighting someone who isn't Lex Luthor or a Kryptonian though. He's got so many fricking great villains, but we just get the same shit over and over.
Brainiac seems like the obvious choice.
Too bad that Superman vs The Elite is a terrible story that makes Superman come off as an idiot and a hypocrite.
Manchester Black is a knockoff Jenny Sparks. The Elite were always meant to be a spoof on the Authority, which was owned by a different company at the time.
Jenny Sparks, and Hitman, and Spider Jerusalem, The Boys, basically everything written by Ennis or Ellis.
Why did WB force him to shill The Flash?
Force him? This man is proud of loving shit. His favorite superhero movie is Into the Spider-verse and Spider-Man: Homecoming
>His favorite superhero movie is Into the Spider-verse and Spider-Man: Homecoming
>Spider-Man: Homecoming
Woof. Just when I thought Gunn couldn't have shittier taste.
Yeah. It didn't make into his top 5 favorite superheros films but he still felt it HAD to be mentioned because it's sO good 🙂
He says Legacy won’t be an origin story but it’s clearly a coming of age story, pretty much the same thing
Lois demanding Clark impregnates her.
probably fighting some dumb CGI monster or something. who gives a shit. all these films are the same.
>Lex Luthor gets Superman cancelled and fired from the JLA by dredging up months old tweets about raping children and babies and Superman has to try to salvage his reputation by publicly apologizing and getting his powerful friends to explain that they were several hundred isolated incidents and not a true reflection of his character
Jewman hugging kids
Cavill's Superman felt like you could live nextdoor to him. He felt like an actual guy.
This sounds like they're going to make a Superman that when you look at him you dont see someone inspirational.
This Superman is going to be the basedboy cuck liberal beta of the Supermen.
He's going to feel exactly like Cavill did in the Joss Whedon's cut of the Justice League. Less of a real person and more like a caricature of what people think Superman is like. Fake smiling, nothing but nice PR talk, corny phrases like "hope is like a lost key", and so on.
He looks autistic here.
He probably is. A gay autist.
My dad has aspergers and he makes this face.
Gunn is such a weird guy to get doing Superman. I can sort of see where Warner Bros. is coming from in hiring him but, getting him to creatively oversee a DC cinematic universe is a mistake. His decisions for the line-up are baffling - the sort of projects you do not from the opening but 10-20 years into it.
Gunn was the only one who accepted the position. Everyone else said no, even Todd Philips.
Gunn is probably a fall guy and he know, he's probably getting some deal out of it. This is all gonna crash and burn and WB is gonna sell DC.
A reminder that the first GOTG was so good because it was co-written by Nicole Perlman. GOTG2 was noticeably shittier without her.
Superman Legacy doesn't have co-writers either.
>Superman Legacy doesn't have co-writers either.
It does, but i don't think that's a good thing.
That is legit the thing that has me most concerned. If Superman gets made into an absolute cuck and Lois is turned into a domineering b***h, blame Tom King for that
Don't forget the hilarious PTSD moments that comes out of nowhere an is badly fitting with Superman for example having a panic attack imagining Lois dying or getting gangraped, all because King likes to compare being a superhero to glowBlack folk for some stupid reason.
>Tom King
Is he the guy with mommy issues and who did a big build up for a marriage between Batman & Catwoman that ultimately never happened?
Yup.
That text is like something a 14 year old comes up with in a creative writing class.
That's how Tom King writes.
Ah... King. Superman acting like a judgmental and stupid, and Lois walking all over him as the voice of reason and intelligence.
This is even worse than Bendispeak
>Cat
>Yea, Bat?
>Cat
>Say Bat
>You look fine, Cat
>I do look fine, Bat
>I said. You look fine
>I know, Bat
>Cat
>Bat
that wasn't bendis that was the cia writer
Clark being a clumsy goof has always been dumb. I really hope they don't go that route in the new movie.
He also
>had Mister Miracle (a relic of the optimistic silver age and one of Jack Kirby's most classic creations) attempt suicide despite the fact he had a pregnant wife at the time
>had Ice (previously portrayed as a very sweet, feminine girl) murder Guy Gardner by turning him to ice and shattering him
>had Riddler start a war in Gotham City because he wanted to cure Joker of his depression (the arc was literally called "The War of Jokes and Riddles")
>did all of the above thinking they were all "subversive masterpieces" on the level of Watchmen
How anyone, let alone the guy who's suppose to run DC movies, think this is good is beyond me
Probably just a PR stunt.
>>had Ice (previously portrayed as a very sweet, feminine girl) murder Guy Gardner by turning him to ice and shattering him
What did Guy do to deserve that?
I really can't be bothered to look it up but off the top of my head he found out she was involved in some criminal conspiracy and was confronting her about it
Black and White lady
>Silver Banshee
Lower row from left to right
>Imperiex
>don't know
>Cyborg Superman
>Ultra-Humanite
>Eclipso
You forgot turning Wally West into a mass murderer.
>>had Riddler start a war in Gotham City because he wanted to cure Joker of his depression (the arc was literally called "The War of Jokes and Riddles")
Why does Riddler care about Joker?
>Gunn's version of the Man of Steel, whom he describes as "a big ol' galoot," is believed to be loosely inspired by Grant Morrison's fan-favorite All-Star Superman. That said, Gunn has indicated that Superman: Legacy is not a direct adaptation of Morrison's work.
>big ol' galoot
So a goofy clumsy moron. Amazing. Bravo, Gunn!
But... Superman wasn't a big ol' galoot in All-Star Superman. If anything he was serious, preoccupied and even conflicted in it since... you know, he was dying from super cancer and was trying to put all his affairs in order both as a hero and as a person before going to the great beyond.
The comic tone wise feels closer to Superman II than the first Superman movie.
superman is a manchild that takes of his shirt and challenges darkseid to a dance of as strong wyman lois rolles her eyes and saves the day
Gunn is just there to steal money from DC before the company dies. Superman Legacy will fail and Gunn will quietly walk away with his millions. None of the other slated movies will come out.
Can't wait for Lois to be an aggressive unlikable b***h - that's all Gunn knows how to write. Soi male/bitchy female.
Jesus Christ the chemistry between those two was off the charts.
The attraction was 100% real.
It will be a copy of "whatever happened to the man of tomorrow?" and will be short stories tied together.
>Favorite movie of 2023
>The Flash
>Mfw
All set up to introduce Supergay!
He will fight Nazis. Or Russians. Or Russians who've teamed up with Nazis and are marching towards Capitol Hill on January 6th to overthrow the USA's first gender non-conforming president.
Clearly he's going to fight The Authority which in this version will be a publicly loved superteam created and run by Lexcorp. Clark Kent is going to investigate them and discover their secret crimes to empower Lex and then take them down as Superman.
In Superman vs The Elite it was him fighting an ersatz Authority, this time he'll be fighting an ersatz The 7.
I find this whole thing so stupid.
The Authority was such a cool comic. Yes, it was essentially a parody of the Justice League but Warren Ellis and the other British writers that worked on the comic played the concept straight and actually put effort in making each character different and each story interesting. It wasn't even bashing the Justice League as a concept.
Meanwhile Superman vs The Elite was written by a Superman fanboy angry about The Authority comic getting so popular in the 2000s - of course it became popular, it was well-written and had good art. So he just wrote Superman beaten up a strawman version of the Authority in the most passive-aggressive way possible.
Now DC owns The Authority and all they use the team for is so they can smash some toys against the Justice League characters or much more commonly as antagonists for Superman to beat up or demoralize. This would be like if DC managed to buy the Avengers and from that point forward all the Avengers were good for was for DC to publish stories where Superman gets to teach Captain America or Iron Man how to be better heroes.
>Superman starts off doing Superman stuff
>takes lois to fortress for an interview and shows off all his cool silver age style stuff
>is wistful for old krypton because he feels like he doesn’t really fit in on Earth
>Brainiac Skull ship shows up and Superman gets zapped into bottle city of kandor
>wakes up in hospital and everyone tells him he was in a coma and Earth was all a dream
>meets up with his old boy hood dog Krypto and they manage to escape
>Superman realizes that he belongs on Earth and that he shouldn’t be stuck thinking about the past on krypton
>defeats Braniac and saves Metropolis and Kandor
Sounds soulless
Perfect for capeshit than
It will finally make sense to hear a israelite say "the American way" since all it means is "the israeli way" today. Bravo, Gunn.