I feel it has a good chance at this point. It's one of the most mentioned films in critics awards groups this year, Neon got the screeners out early, and if it gets nominated at the Annies that'll seal the deal and tell me the animation community is
BUT I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THAT. I JUST WANT TO SEE THE FRICKING MOVIE. RELEASE IT YOU HACKS!
Across the Spider-Verse and Boy and the Heron are guaranteed. One of them is winning - I'd still bet on Spider-Verse though Boy and the Heron has been getting more praise then I expected.
Elemental is very likely.
The other two slots are questionable. Nimona got critical praise but few people saw it - Oscars don't care about that so it might sneak in though Netflix could push Chicken Run which also has a good critical score and was watched by more people and Aardman. I would expect another foreign film that has no chance of winning getting into one of the slots to make the Oscars look more legitimate.
Mario has a chance simply because of its immense popularity and that the Oscars ultimately don't care that much about this category.
Mostly agree - I only think it has a chance because it's a weaker year with only two strong films and thus three slots to fill plus the fact it made so much money. I wouldn't bet on it but I wouldn't be surprised either.
I don't hate him but its clear at this point that he should've retired ages ago (or rather, STAYED retired) Boy and the Heron felt like a haphazard mess, and the pretty visuals really didn't do enough to make up for that.
Pretty much how I felt, out of the anime movies I watched I liked Suzume and The First Slam Dunk better but no way they would get nominated over Miyazaki
>serialized movies churned out every year for the past 50 years
is this bait?
does Cinemaphile hate Hayao Miyazaki?
It's not to the extent that Cinemaphile is completely dilluted with rampant schizos, but there's one specific Cinemaphile poster who has made threads for years hating on Miyazaki specifically. In general Cinemaphile is elitist, but this anon in particular seems to have lost his mind over Miyazaki, almost always with a thread calling him an Old Man and taking insult to him being disappointed in the anime industry, even though every anon on the board says the same thing in different ways. It's made discussing his new film impossible, I've unironically seen better conversations of it on Cinemaphile.
Elitist in what way? Just gatekeeping nerd way? They don't appreciate the sight & sound poll that gave good results to Ghibli and that Akira movie but I guess no one really likes Sight & Sound except for film homosexuals.
Japan gives middling reviews to everything. have you seen Filmarks? The Boy and the Heron made a lot of money outside Japan because awareness of Hayao Miyazaki has been expanding whereas in Japan, he peaked in 2001.
Spider-Man and Elemental are the only true competitors. I am rooting for Elemental because it was a quality movie and I didn't really vibe with Spider-Verse sequel, it felt more like franchise management than real storytelling.
Elemental was my favorite animated film of the year, but the toss-up is between ATSV (good, but incomplete) and Heron (convoluted plot dragging some great music).
Well Hayao Miyazaki had Disney and Disney and Pixar artists on his dick. he also deserves this attention. But they did give a nomination to Hosoda for Mirai.
>they did give a nomination to Hosoda for Mirai
That must’ve been a fluke since they didn’t give him a nom for BELLE even though that movie got a 14-min ovation at Cannes and critics loved it.
He's friends with Lasseter, not other Disney executives. Disney-ghibli relations were never actually good when Lasseter wasn't involved. So it's natural that Disney is no longer the distributor of ghibli films in the US since Lassetter got cancelled.
Disney dropped Ghibli before Lasseter was fired/left. And Disney made the deal with Ghibli long before they bought Pixar. Though it is true Lasseter was the intro for a lot of the Ghiblis on DVD before they bought Pixar.
They became friends since Lasseter visited studio ghibli even before toy story came out. >Disney dropped Ghibli before Lasseter was fired/left.
They stopped distributing ghibli shit exclusively in the early 2010s but they were the distributor of the wind rises anyway, and they dropped ghibli completely in 2017 and announced Lasseter steps down a few months later. I guess it was related in some way. >And Disney made the deal with Ghibli long before they bought Pixar.
Yes, and it's known that they weren't always happy about it. Lasseter was the one who worked hard for both sides since before they bought Pixar.
https://www.polygon.com/animation-cartoons/2020/5/27/21272224/disney-studio-ghibli-partnership-dubs-history
His movies are closest to Disney, have a different style than most anime, and unlike most other anime movies, aren't spinoffs/sequels/etc to Manga/anime series. They're just easier for non-/a/gays to consume.
Wish because Disney
Elemental because Pixar
Spiderverse because it's been news worthy
possibly TMNT because it's TMNT
Nimona if anyone with taste is there.
Not sure if Chicken Run is good. Also technically not sure about Paw Patrol, although I have a lot less faith in that one.
I mean, Japan is not South Korea, there wouldn't be a huge hype in Japan even if something Japanese wins big at American awards and yet it feels like getting judged by them so it's pretty much just annoying
You have no idea how much impact Parasite did, Japan needed to play catch up to South Korea's Parasite and Godzilla Minus One was Japan's answer to Parasite.
Yes they do, especially Asians.
Japan use to be on top of the world but they have since fallen, making Godzilla Minus One to play catch up to Parasite is one of Japan steps to get back to being on top of the world.
Ah too bad - I would've pegged it as a darkhorse entry for surprisingly good reviews and well loved by the audience (thus more likely academy members had kids in their family to make them actually watch it) but with that being the case I suppose Netflix will push Nimona or Chicken Run.
Spider-Man and Elemental are the only true competitors. I am rooting for Elemental because it was a quality movie and I didn't really vibe with Spider-Verse sequel, it felt more like franchise management than real storytelling.
>Ruby Gillman
poor pathetic movie.
ain't no way Elemental wins. I like it though.
Elemental was my favorite animated film of the year, but the toss-up is between ATSV (good, but incomplete) and Heron (convoluted plot dragging some great music).
that are calling Elemental a good film not people expecting it to be nominated.
I did like Elemental more than I thought I would even though it was pretty cliche.
That's a hell of a low hand...
Nothing gets nominated. And the academy gives the best animated to a random black person to solve racism forever.
Across the Spider-Verse
Boy and the Heron
Elemental
Robot Dreams
TMNT
>Robot Dreams
I hope so
I feel it has a good chance at this point. It's one of the most mentioned films in critics awards groups this year, Neon got the screeners out early, and if it gets nominated at the Annies that'll seal the deal and tell me the animation community is
BUT I DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY OF THAT. I JUST WANT TO SEE THE FRICKING MOVIE. RELEASE IT YOU HACKS!
Heard a lot about this one. Is it really that good?
I would watch it if I had the chance.
Not a masterpiece, but a really good one, especially in a really mediocre year for animation (and movies in general). The ending is truly great.
Elemental because it's Disney, and some how made budget and wasn't too much of a critical flop
>"Muhhhhh Elemental is a flop!" boogeyman
Cope
I didn't say it was a flop
Learn to read
Spider-man cause black, Elemental cause Disney, or Boy and the Heron cause Ghibli
Across the Spider-Verse and Boy and the Heron are guaranteed. One of them is winning - I'd still bet on Spider-Verse though Boy and the Heron has been getting more praise then I expected.
Elemental is very likely.
The other two slots are questionable. Nimona got critical praise but few people saw it - Oscars don't care about that so it might sneak in though Netflix could push Chicken Run which also has a good critical score and was watched by more people and Aardman. I would expect another foreign film that has no chance of winning getting into one of the slots to make the Oscars look more legitimate.
Mario has a chance simply because of its immense popularity and that the Oscars ultimately don't care that much about this category.
Mario I feel like didn't please the critics enough to get in.
Mostly agree - I only think it has a chance because it's a weaker year with only two strong films and thus three slots to fill plus the fact it made so much money. I wouldn't bet on it but I wouldn't be surprised either.
>The Boy and the Heron
>Spider-Verse 2
These are the only two that are 100% guaranteed to get a nomination and could possibly win the Oscar.
>Elemental
>Nimona
>Robot Dreams
>another mediocre Miyazaki's slop
Why choosing again that talentless hack when you would nominate real Kino anime like pic related?
does Cinemaphile hate Hayao Miyazaki?
I don't hate him but its clear at this point that he should've retired ages ago (or rather, STAYED retired) Boy and the Heron felt like a haphazard mess, and the pretty visuals really didn't do enough to make up for that.
Pretty much how I felt, out of the anime movies I watched I liked Suzume and The First Slam Dunk better but no way they would get nominated over Miyazaki
Doraemon is literally irrelevant outside of Asia
*and South America
And Spain
In fact, that movie was released in theaters from Spain this year, a couple of months ago or something.
>serialized movies churned out every year for the past 50 years
is this bait?
It's not to the extent that Cinemaphile is completely dilluted with rampant schizos, but there's one specific Cinemaphile poster who has made threads for years hating on Miyazaki specifically. In general Cinemaphile is elitist, but this anon in particular seems to have lost his mind over Miyazaki, almost always with a thread calling him an Old Man and taking insult to him being disappointed in the anime industry, even though every anon on the board says the same thing in different ways. It's made discussing his new film impossible, I've unironically seen better conversations of it on Cinemaphile.
Elitist in what way? Just gatekeeping nerd way? They don't appreciate the sight & sound poll that gave good results to Ghibli and that Akira movie but I guess no one really likes Sight & Sound except for film homosexuals.
Gatekeeping nerd way.
Why are people pretending Heron is good? Japan was actually honest with their middling reviews.
Japan gives middling reviews to everything. have you seen Filmarks? The Boy and the Heron made a lot of money outside Japan because awareness of Hayao Miyazaki has been expanding whereas in Japan, he peaked in 2001.
though it is funny to see Elemental with a 4.0/5 and heron with a 3.7/5
Never forget the boss baby somehow got a nomination.
And Shark Tale.
At least it's not like another mediocre Dreamworks movie that also got nominated.
I'm glad Shrek 2 lost because it used to be the narrative that whatever movie made more would win Best Animated. Even with Spirited Away winning.
Shark Tale deserved that nomination
Spider-Man and Elemental are the only true competitors. I am rooting for Elemental because it was a quality movie and I didn't really vibe with Spider-Verse sequel, it felt more like franchise management than real storytelling.
>Ruby Gillman
poor pathetic movie.
ain't no way Elemental wins. I like it though.
Elemental was my favorite animated film of the year, but the toss-up is between ATSV (good, but incomplete) and Heron (convoluted plot dragging some great music).
What’s so great about Miyazaki that the Academy keeps jacking off to him but ignores other Cinemaphile directors?
Well Hayao Miyazaki had Disney and Disney and Pixar artists on his dick. he also deserves this attention. But they did give a nomination to Hosoda for Mirai.
>they did give a nomination to Hosoda for Mirai
That must’ve been a fluke since they didn’t give him a nom for BELLE even though that movie got a 14-min ovation at Cannes and critics loved it.
ovations at Cannes mean nothing. They gave a huge applause to Elemental and then went to their rooms to give bad reviews to it
also Hayao Miyazaki movies were HUGE moneymakers in Japan
spiderverse because black.
Heron because ghibli.
One disney pic, I think they go with elemental.
I think paw patrol or maybe mario has an outside chance of a nomination because of kids of voters but no chance at a real prize.
Did nimona have a theatrical release?
He's friends with disney, and he's not white.
>Did nimona have a theatrical release?
a limited one that made it qualify for an Oscar
Alright. Nimona because gay.
Hollywood is racist as frick, and can only maintain one asian at a time per gender or category. It's why aquafina gets all those roles.
He's friends with Lasseter, not other Disney executives. Disney-ghibli relations were never actually good when Lasseter wasn't involved. So it's natural that Disney is no longer the distributor of ghibli films in the US since Lassetter got cancelled.
Disney dropped Ghibli before Lasseter was fired/left. And Disney made the deal with Ghibli long before they bought Pixar. Though it is true Lasseter was the intro for a lot of the Ghiblis on DVD before they bought Pixar.
They became friends since Lasseter visited studio ghibli even before toy story came out.
>Disney dropped Ghibli before Lasseter was fired/left.
They stopped distributing ghibli shit exclusively in the early 2010s but they were the distributor of the wind rises anyway, and they dropped ghibli completely in 2017 and announced Lasseter steps down a few months later. I guess it was related in some way.
>And Disney made the deal with Ghibli long before they bought Pixar.
Yes, and it's known that they weren't always happy about it. Lasseter was the one who worked hard for both sides since before they bought Pixar.
https://www.polygon.com/animation-cartoons/2020/5/27/21272224/disney-studio-ghibli-partnership-dubs-history
His movies are closest to Disney, have a different style than most anime, and unlike most other anime movies, aren't spinoffs/sequels/etc to Manga/anime series. They're just easier for non-/a/gays to consume.
they're also massively popular in Japan, probably part of the reason Disney was interested
bump
Wish because Disney
Elemental because Pixar
Spiderverse because it's been news worthy
possibly TMNT because it's TMNT
Nimona if anyone with taste is there.
Not sure if Chicken Run is good. Also technically not sure about Paw Patrol, although I have a lot less faith in that one.
you're forgetting the Hayao Miyazaki movie
The 2007 tmnt movie wasnt even nominated.
Japan should boycott the oscars
Godzilla Minus One got nominated, not happening as Japan really needs this to be on equal footing with South Korea's Parasite.
I mean, Japan is not South Korea, there wouldn't be a huge hype in Japan even if something Japanese wins big at American awards and yet it feels like getting judged by them so it's pretty much just annoying
You have no idea how much impact Parasite did, Japan needed to play catch up to South Korea's Parasite and Godzilla Minus One was Japan's answer to Parasite.
That's great but it's impossible for the Japanese to feel like when Kurosawa won multiple awards in the west in the early 50s again anymore.
>Japan really needs this to be on equal footing with South Korea's Parasite.
Nobody thinks like this anon
Yes they do, especially Asians.
Japan use to be on top of the world but they have since fallen, making Godzilla Minus One to play catch up to Parasite is one of Japan steps to get back to being on top of the world.
Mario.
Again, the critics weren't feeling that one, so I don't think that's getting nominated.
Yes they were, don't be a Zainichi Korean.
>59% critics score on Rotten Tomatoes
I liked the movie, yeah, but I doubt it's getting a nomination.
No, thats Spider Verse 2, Mario was around 71% with the other films (baring The Boy and The Heroin which is 98%) being in the 60s at best.
>The Boy and The Heroin
Now that I would watch
Did that get a theatrical release for it to get nominated?
Nah, just a preview at the Annecy Festival.
Ah too bad - I would've pegged it as a darkhorse entry for surprisingly good reviews and well loved by the audience (thus more likely academy members had kids in their family to make them actually watch it) but with that being the case I suppose Netflix will push Nimona or Chicken Run.
What are you talking about? Of course it’s eligible.
elemental was mediocre as hell, what's with all these posts praising it?
It's disney/pixar, of course it'd be up there regardless of actual quality.
I think he's talking about these posts
that are calling Elemental a good film not people expecting it to be nominated.
I did like Elemental more than I thought I would even though it was pretty cliche.