So when is this show going to show humans/sinners again? Wasn't "getting revenge for the dead on the living" kind of the point? We have seen that in 2 episodes. The rest is just teenage drama.
So when is this show going to show humans/sinners again?
So when is this show going to show humans/sinners again? Wasn't "getting revenge for the dead on the living" kind of the point? We have seen that in 2 episodes. The rest is just teenage drama.
I've never seen this show
Congrats.
Is this show and hasbro hotel the same thing? They look the same
hotel
Not sure if that was intentional or not, but you made my day either way.
It was a joke, but I was confused if they were the same thing or not. My idea for what this show was is a hotel in hell, like sinners have to repent in hell before they go to heaven and it's like community service, and hell is like a DMV. So they stay in a hotel or something. How close is this?
Hazbin hotel and helluva boss are made by the same person and sadly HH only has one episode.
Both suffer from immature writing full of fussing and swearing because that's what attracts teenagers, vain characters and horrendous singing. It's balanced by the porn potential and some designs though.
I still don't comprehend how they made Angel Dust so attractive to the point of having 5298154902 pieces of fan art scattered all over the internet and yet still won't bank on it.
More or less, except that's the other show that isn't released yet.
Charlie, daughter of the devil, wants to use her hotel to redeem sinners.
That's the main premise of Hazbin. But knowing Viv the message will be that redemption is gay and degeneracy is good and valid
>Charlie, daughter of the devil, wants to use her hotel to redeem sinners.
>daughter of the devil
This is going to end as a big antichrist joke.
They're apparently meant to be set in the same universe, though given the wildly different artstyle of Hazbin alongside all the shitty plotholes (i.e. the angels not showing up at all, there being no mention of the literal rulers of hell and the concept of redemption never being introduced) make it seem more like its own thing. They're probably going to retcon a bunch of shit in Hazbin when that eventually releases.
Blitzo is barely even a boss anymore. At this point, the show might as well just be about him and his bird lover, and his daughter and a married couple of friends are there too.
I wish I could say the same.
Ok
At this point I envy you
HB could have worked if Blitzo was the side protagonist that you weren't meant to feel bad for and M&M were the main protags
Just cut the Blitzo and Stolas shit down to the background and sometimes B-plots and remove the drama that was never advertised ever and you could squeeze 3 good seasons out of this before it starts to get rotten
Forget the human homosexuals, I want to see my favorite spider again
there is no space for brain in that skull XD
The humans turn into demons like the teacher from the pilot
Part of me thinks there should a third spinoff that takes place in the human world.
Likely never, the show is basically "Gay OC drama: the show"
This show stopped being about zany adventures the moment Viv got a hard on for gay owl melodrama.
Never, it's just gay fujo fanfiction now.
What if when you died, you went to Hell and it was exactly as it was in this show? The catch being is now Viv is control of you
Suicide by Exorcist.
>"Sorry sweetie, no. I think we're going to have you and the exorcist frick and sing about how much you like getting pegged."
>I think we're going to have you and the exorcist frick
Well, when you put it that way...
sauce?
Now that WOULD be hell.
....
What do I look like? Cause if I'm a dog homie that would be kinda cool.
Tex is /our/ dawg.
>gluttony
>anorexic sparkledog
Is Viv moronic?
Yes.
The theme is supposed to be cocaine fueled jersey shore WOOPWOOP girl but they didn't even do drugs lmao
She couldn't get into Belphegor's party drugs stash.
Isn't Belphegor a lazy dude shitting in a toilet? Why is he a party girl instead of some lazy fatass inventor that sits in his house with his pants off?
Actually if Belphegor were just Carl with a knack for inventing household appliances and shit that'd work really well, way more on brand than any of the other 'demons' in this show.
I'd his throne is a golden toilet it would be a nice detail
Warlocks in Mexico actually burn shit as an offering to it if my memory serves me right
>Warlocks in Mexico
You can't just drop something like that and not explain yourself, anon.
>some lazy fatass inventor that sits in his house with his pants off?
That’s what she is.
Does not need to be a she.
When did Hell become so sanitized in this show? I remember Moxxie dropping syringes with morphine into a baby stroller.
She gives cotton candy to orphans
>COT
>TON
>CAN
>DY
b***h is their word. Nobody else gets to say it.
>anorexic
If she actually had been a twig-framed coked out weirdo that would have worked just as well. Maybe better, would have stood out more. As is she's very healthy looking for someone who is the embodiment of glut.
Not defending the design but automatically assuming that Gluttony must = fat is just as lazy as assuming that Lust must = woman
Lust should be an ugly bastard.
I really do like this color palette. It's the only properly balanced one on Bill. Although I think her wink in this pose should be used more often. Like here.
She only looks good with the yellow filter. The minute it goes back to normal she's just sparkledog
Truly
>Viv's depiction of Hell is so horrifying that God gives Lucifer a break
>Viv gets put in charge.
>Has full control.
>Viv sees it as an opportunity to make Hell a 'better place.
>Makes it exactly like her shows.
>Everyone, demons and sinners alike look like sparkledogs.
>Demons are unhappy because they now look like the Tumblr artwork they've been using to torture Van Gogh.
>Sinners start getting lip now that they aren't getting tortured.
>Every now and again someone will burst into song.
>Everyone is now more miserable than before.
>Hell decays into a slag of rainbows and song numbers.
>Despite being completely incompetent, Viv made Hell far worse than it ever was.
What would she do to a "husky" straight man?
Probably turn you into a parody of yourself to make fun of for being a straight man.
You'd probably lose at least twenty pounds as you get forcibly converted into a tumblr sexyman.
Jump from the highest building
That's the neat part, it wouldn't work.
You literally would not be able to have a nice day unless you run across and angel and harass them.
Lol imagine denying trannies their option to suicide out of something. Wish I had that chad level power.
Ngl I'd probably try to get a job at Charlie's hotel. I can't die unless I get purged so I might as well try to make a living. My bigger concern would be if I had a cool demon look. I'd take being a sparkledog I guess.
If you become a sparkledog, do you take on the aspects of a dog?
Will ear scratches feel like heaven?
Scam Moxxie's dad and hopefully he'll kill me.
I’d frick Loona
You don't have to go to hell to frick a dog, you can do that right here on Earth and go to hell afterwards.
But I don't want to frick a dog, I want to frick Loona.
I'd find a dead dictator like hitler, saddam hussein, etc and do everything i could to help him gain power in a section of hell and begin purging one of the circles.
Hitler isn't in hell. The people who are too edgy get annihilated upon arrival so that Viv doesn't have to address their absence or some shit.
Effectively her "hell" is just purgatory.
She really could have simply made it limbo, huh.
It would've made things a lot easier.
I doubt she'd even know about some of the obscure ones, maybe mugabe or taboritsky is down there, could always just pull a Father Elijah and devise a plan to destroy a part of hell on your own.
Why did she even make it in hell if she is not even going to follow the concept?
Easy marketability, never mind that the setting being hell matters less and less with each episode
>get annihilated upon arrival
So those who deserve eternal torment the most get off the easiest? What message is Viv trying to send here?
That her show is safe edgy (say frick a lot, and drink sometimes) not actual edgy.
Breaking Bad but with furries (me as a red panda crack addict making fentanyl laced drugs for killing off druggies, every episode is me being too tempted to smoke the stash I'm delivering to a client and fricking his brains out because I'm gay)
I would probably become some neo nazi warlord
Just imagine terrorizing all the israeli and gay sinners that ended up here with me
Youd only terrorize them? Not say, build a harem of israeliteesses?
Fight in the name of Christ. Start binding demons with the seal of Solomon
unironically would be a great storyline
>be mortal human
>goes to hell
>use the Ring of Solomon and use your status as dead human to slowly bind all demons to your command
>slowly you gain power and eventually bind all the goetias
>end goal is to try and take over hell or most of it.
Would Lucifer stop you? At a minimum you wouldn't be able to take him down, and while Lilith is another human, she's got Lucifer in her corner.
>Would Lucifer stop you? At a minimum you wouldn't be able to take him down.
I feel he'd only intervene when you're a threat to pride itself. By that point you'd probably absorb and bind most of the Goetias and only power demons by than. But I'm not sure if it's possible to bind lucifer.
A goetia demon like Paimon or Stolas is one thing but he's another animal. To keep yourself from literally spontaneously combust under your own power is through multiple immortality rituals to counteracting the negative effects of the power rituals- which are, in turn, feeding power to your immortality rituals. To bind lucifer would be as hard as Mount Everest with knifes in your mouth.
>Lilith is another human, she's got Lucifer in her corner.
she's probably a bigger threat than lucifer, as since she technically has the powers of both angelic, demonic, and humanity with none of the drawbacks. She cannot be binded.
>Would Lucifer stop you? At a minimum you wouldn't be able to take him down, and while Lilith is another human, she's got Lucifer in her corner.
He can try
who that? a fanart of the Priest from Cultist Simulator?
Its the protagonist of the Faith video games by newblood. Its really good check it out. Oh and the demons there are genuinely scary, unlike in here
nice, I'll check it out. I recommend cultist simulator too, it has amazing writing and worldbuilding, though it's more of an original spin on lovecraftian horror than classic satanic demons
I see a face in this seal.
it looks like a cartoon character face
I find him better as a moderately flat slim twink with some fluff. Flat chest supremacy.
>this is considered a sex symbol in hell
Random background imps are more attractive. How does he do it?
Hot lusty curvy bimbos are just everywhere and you get bored of it eventually. He looks pure and beautiful in a more exotic way.
Or I just have a thing for ambiguous males with sharp teeth, a slim figure, elegance emanating from them and delicate hands.
Imagine being a gay tho
>He looks pure and beautiful
Maybe in fanart, lmao.
Yeah. At this point I'm not even really interested in the original character. Just the countless derivatives available through artworks.
The weirdest part is that I'm not even obsessed about this fluffy boy because of le sex.
Don't forget about this absolute babe. Why Moxxie or Millie fell for Chaz is beyond me.
why the hell are these sharks supposed to be?
Chaz is an absolute scumbag, yet there's a certain charm to him that I can't keep away...
Loan sharks.
>Flat chest supremacy
chestlet cope
OK FINE I’ve been having gay thoughts about that thing on the right okay? Jesus Christ
Angel Dust if he real
Angel Dust if he scary
Where do you find that shit
That's excessive. I remember there being another image in this vein that I liked.
id frick him
Angel Dust if he straight
Dangerously baste ship. Might be to based for me, but I like buttholes consoling and working through shit together.
Don't let the 'vivzies friend' that sometimes lurks in these threads see this, they would probably flip their shit even more than they do with charlistor.
Angel is gonna ruin the show like Stolas ruined Helluva. Believe It.
except he’s easily the funniest character in the pilot
New VA. Doomed. Won't be nearly as funny without the Brooklyn israelite boy accent.
I'm part curious and part horrified at the potential cringekino about to be revealed. Subtlety and fine writing aren't the strongest traits of the staff behind HH/HB.
Angel Dust being part of the core cast was at least part of the initial pitch, so you expect him to show up frequently. But I gotta laugh at Vivzie claiming HH is the "female focused" show because everyone call tell Angel Dust and Alastor are going to be the most popular characters.
The pilot set up completely different expectations for this show. I also thought Stolas was just going to be a creepy weirdo villain mostly in the background. Kind of a gag, hyper-gay character where Blitzo makes phone calls to him and occasionally has to put up with sexual harassment to get magic items. Then those items get used in the "human of the day" plot. Stolas would just be karma for he himself being a creepy boss occasionally sexually harassing Millie and Moxxie. The whole series didn't seem like it was intended to be nearly as gay or some melodrama. More like "my boss is an butthole, but we all get the job done together".
Didn't it seem like that's what they were going for? What happened?
>What happened?
Viv happened.
It was either a bad faith bait and switch from Viv(possible), or something similar to CharliexVaggie happened where she let her advisors talk her into making the show more gay.
Okay, Cinemaphile, you know what time it is. Today we'll be doing something a little different.
Viv is often said to have no one to tell her no. For this scenario, you will be in charge as her editor. Your job is to help filter and steer her ideas as they go from planning, to production, and full realization.
Notes:
>The final result must be able to air on their current platforms at the least
>You are assumed to be on friendly terms with Viv, but as you know this can quickly change. You lose the scenario if she quits.
How would you help her make Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss a dual hit?
I just make her actually read the ars goetia and not its Wikipedia page. I also probably make her read Mere Christianity to get a 101 level education of what Heaven would ideally be like in a narrative
>Mere Christianity
Why this and not a million other 20th century apologetics?
Mere Christianity is specifically written by an atheist convert with skeptics in mind, which I think makes it more palatable to someone like Viv who just wants to use the setting with no personal or spiritual investment
Why would she want that watered-down shit? Obviously the full, wacky, horrifying traditional Christian myths are going to provide better material than someone trying to soberly convert modern sceptics.
Okay, but we've seen her take on raw Christian esotericism and she's shit at it. She needs to go back to basics for a bit.
I don't watch her stuff, what kind of Christian esotericism does she include.
Is it like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Roman_Emperor
She copies sigils and names from the ars goetia. copied Dante’s Inferno for the rings of hell, but forgot that theres 9 and not 7. thats… just about it.
HH/HB are primarily shows about shipping, not actual writing.
I can tell she doesn't know shit, like using upside-down crosses in hell.
As her editor I would warn her under no circumstances to accept any suggestions from Cinemaphile.
For Helluva
1. Retvrn to tradition and have Helluva Boss be a by the episode edgy comedy.
2. Tone down the cum and gay sex jokes and focus more on violent humor.
3. Dial back Stolas
4. Give Moxie a mob accent since it makes no sense that he wouldn't have one given his upbringing
5. Have the actual lore be better explained.
6. Make better use of Verosika.
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Hazbin
1. Have the show be edgy and humorous obviously, but actually keep on target and make it the more serious and storyline based of the two shows.
2. Return Charlie to old design. Keep her disney princess meme personality. It contrasts well with basically everyone else.
3. Lore dumps where appropriate.
4. Don't have the final twist be "the real heaven was inside us all along"
5. Have at least one heaven character that isn't portrayed as a self parody.
I like the idea of a Heaven character who shows up to help Charlie. They could perhaps be a martyr who tries to teach forgiveness.
It does indeed strike me as very weird that at least some angels wouldn't look on her efforts favorably.
>help the daughter of the devil redeem demons
>it works
>hell btfo
>promotion
>proffit
Good point
Why wouldn’t God want more people to be saved?
I get the feeling that viv’s interpretation of god is either just going to have him be a petty tyrant willing to condemn souls for minor transgressions or just copy Doom Eternal and make him an absentee deity.
This exactly is the reason I was never all that interested to watch Hasbin Hotel
It’s obvious from the getgo that if Charlie is an innocent (her mission is a positive one and she’s only in hell because of who her father is) that she shouldn’t be in hell. The fact that she is only tells me exactly where Viv is gonna go with her portrayal of God.
>It’s obvious from the getgo that if Charlie is an innocent
she's not a sinner though, she's a demon
Would a demon not be a fallen angel? But she could not be fallen, she never made the choice to rebel against God, her dad did.
>Verosika
>V r sika
Vriska?
Also
>remind her that filling hell with gays is kinda sussy
for the epic lulz
I would also tone back the jerking off of Blitzo as this "alpha male, prime specimen" of his race that we keep being shilled. He needs to actually be charming and not this telling the audience he is a panty dropping sex god with a huge hog and is just amazing in a fight with almost anyone.
The only people I see saying that are people on Cinemaphile complaining about it. The Blitzo in the show appears to be a raging, insecure, miserable butthole who nobody but the owl actually likes.
>The Blitzo in the show appears to be a raging, insecure, miserable butthole who nobody but the owl actually likes.
Except he was apparently having so much sex at Beelzebub's party that even she had to make Loona tard wrangle him.
He was having sex and boozing to drown his emotional Armageddon from being humiliated in public by his ex gf, the muppet, and Ozzie. Not exactly healthy.
I realise many anons aspire to be bawds but I don't think it's intended as a positive personality trait.
It is when you consider who's writing this shit.
They had him beat the Queen of gluttony at drinking. And he hasn't lost any real fights yet. He's a piece of shit, and a creator's pet.
If one of the Hazbin human cast members had to work with IMP, which one would be likely to work with them and willing to beat Blitzo to death for being such an obnoxious frick?
Are there any human cast members?
I could see Husk beating the shit out of Blitzo.
All of them are except for Charlie
Lol funny to think Alastor probably knew Husk before he came to hell! Hahaha!
...so did he know Nifty before coming to Hell too? Did she clean up some of his crime scenes in the living world?
I mean't of the formerly human cast members like Husk, Alastor, or Vaggie. Husk I could tell from his 45 seconds of dialogue in Hazbin's pilot would attempt to grind a broken highball glass in Blitzo's eye after having to listen to him for more than a minute.
>4. Give Moxie a mob accent since it makes no sense that he wouldn't have one given his upbringing
Only thing I really disagree with, Moxie fricking hates his dad and his crime family origins, it makes perfect sense that he distances himself from it and speaks differently.
They don't even allow Cherubs back into heavan after botching a job minor, seems like Heaven is an exclusive club that doesn't want any old rabble. I wouldn't be surprised if the first big twist of Hazbin Hotel is that Charlie succeeds in reforming a sinner but they get refused entry to heaven anyway.
First and foremost whenever she pitches an idea for a story, a setting or design I will ask her if this series being set in Hell supports it or if it works alongside this. Because so far a big problem is how the setting contributes absolutely nothing to the story or characters and characters and story do not feel like they even need to be told in Hell.
Also I will gently suggest that she should hire a more competent writer or someone who can supervise and edit her writing (someone outside of her social circle) and hire PR manager for your twitter. She can still pitch ideas, she can still make designs, but first she needs to think on how they fit in this setting and what kind of idea works best for this setting. She can pitch a story idea, but this goes through someone who can make something good out of it.
Also I will need to tell her to have patience with her scenes and maybe see that because of her limited time not every idea will have the necessary time to be realized.
And most importantly... Treat your audience like adults. Do not simplify your conflict so people have easier time rooting for Stolas or Blitzo. Allow them to be flawed, allow your stories to have conflict that is not easy and makes your audience think. Make your characters interesting first, not likeable.
Those are things that come to my mind for now.
>hire PR manager for her twitter
Sleep depravation kicks in
1. Limit the ships
2. Have her create the world building beforehand
3. Make her actually read about Christianity.
4. Stop the immature humor
5. Make her actually think of the direction.
>Make her actually read about Christianity.
Why? Christians don't.
hire me i was raised in a conservative Christian household and got a pretty good understanding of it before having a serious existential crisis at 16 and even after that I'm still sort of murky on the god thing, not a full-blown fedora
I just don't see the point of adhering closely to Christian mythology when 99% of the audience, Christians included, won't know the difference.
Nah you have a point, mythologies through out history are constantly being re-written and re-interpreted and Vivzie isn't really obligated to adhere to one interpretation of Christianity (also it's pretty obvious that even if she were more accurate, her depiction of heaven isn't a respectful one so why are the demons the issue here?). But the criticism that this show is starting to feel less like it takes place in an interpretation of hell and more like a furry drama holds water. There's a difference between saying "humans got it wrong, Beelzebub is actually a bee demon" and "humans got it wrong, Beelzebub is actually a dog". I wouldn't make Vivz read the bible or anything like that but I would ask her if she's actually interested in telling a story exploring heaven and hell or if she just slapped it onto a weak story because it would get the attention of studios.
Even the most ignorant christian would be confused with Viv's stupid worldbuilding. Like why does hell have jails? Why are there sparkledogs here?
Man, I hate Reddit for pretty much universally ruining the internet's view of atheism.
They brought it upon themselves, trying to one up each other on who doesn't believe the hardest, I still remember how they ruined horror by making every story start with a description of how rational the character is
It' was a different kind of cringe from what we saw until that point in time
>I still remember how they ruined horror by making every story start with a description of how rational the character is
What are you talking about?
Oh sorry I guess I need to explain, it's something most people don't notice or assume was always the norm
There is a trope in short horror stories in wich the protagonist or the one recounting the tale goes on a long paragraph about how rational they are and how they are not a superstitious/religious person in order to make the reader trust it's account, it's older than the internet but around the time reddit poked around it started to gain notoriety
You would find pretty much everywhere, from pastas, to short tales and even novels, always the same attempt to present the main character or the one that told the tale to the narrator as a rational individual that is not at all superstitious and it got grating to see it to a point it became immersion breaking as an horror fan the moment those words appeared in a story
I hope I explained it well enough
I know what you are talking about, but I really don't see how it would detract from the experience. If anything, and rational man encountering something beyond rationality would have extra impact on him, no?
It's different, think of Lovecraft it had all sort of scholarly and well traveled individuals that went against the unknown but it rarely put that in the front of the story, you discovered they doubts near the middle or at the moment of revelation of how screwed up they were
After 2009 there was a huge spike on totally rational and not superstitious narrators and you can trace some of that to how popular it got on reddit, it's like a copycat phenomenon where it became so abundant it became kinda hard to ignore if you were there
What bothers me the most is how cheap it is and how soon it comes in all of the stories, it's almost as if the writer himself interrupts the tale and tells you to trust him, it kills the mood
Isn't that what the god doesn't exist movie or whatever does?
Atheism itself ruined the internet view of atheism.
I don't you have to be Christian to know that Helluva Boss treats hell like it's California.
Mostly tone back a lot of the constant noise that is the bloated dialogue and allow for some atmosphere and telling through showing. I think back to Samurai Jack for how much impact in terms of humor and action sequences it had from not including talking very much or was concise about what was spoken in the show. Having a monkey typewriter where they keep going until humor just spontaneously just emerges is not a smart decision at all, Yahtzee said it only worked for High On Life due to it being socially inept weirdos trying to fill the awkward silence.
have villains team up and have a crossover
mwahahaha
It's really not too hard when you think about.
>use pilot as a blueprint, but fix it's edginess and way-too-fast jokes
>make it often set in the office to begin, then go into arcs
>just remove going to the human world. the humans are too stupid and no one wants to see california
>make stolas a mysterious background character. better less than more of him
>make it so blitzo wishes he fricked everyone and has not actually fricked anyone
>make all the female characters just a little less b***hy
>stop making all the female characters so absurdly attack-dog like and give them character development
>make stella intelligent, but a good mother to conflict viewers
>stolas occasionally helping the gang with fun items
>keep stolas liking blitzo, but just a sex pest on the phone to blitzo
>fizz is now an important rival and has showed up multiple times when blitzo is at his weakest
>fizz and blitzo never fricked
>just make moxxie have some moments where he's kind of stronger so millie doesn't have to literally be his attack dog
>have some loona only episodes since she's sort of a teen and doesn't fit in with the rest of the adults
>just no more sex, cum, gay jokes without reason
>make only very few characters curse like sailors, blitzo being one
>cut back on le epic, long, tedious violence scenes as it doesn't add anything and needs to be used for minor characters to have character development
>show don't tell with world building
>complete redesign of angels and how they are. shelve their only episode. make them serious threats later on
Hire me, SpindleHorse.
>keep stolas liking blitzo, but just a sex pest on the phone to blitzo
I don’t know why but this made me think of Slim Cognito in Ratchet and Clank
>”Put it in the slot.”
>cut back on le epic, long, tedious violence scenes
the only good parts of this show are the flashing colors and blood
>complete redesign of angels and how they are. shelve their only episode. make them serious threats later on
there's still room for this. The animal cherubs seem to be the bottom b***h of heaven society, parallel to imps. But its still heaven so its not like they are complaining.
>Cherubs are heaven’s imps
That might have been outright confirmed in a Q&A, can’t remember.
I don't even think Viv has to base her hell on any irl interpretation.
It would be fricking nice if she actually bothered to maintain a level of internal consistency tho.
Like idk maybe release a lore video dedicated to Hell as a between the next release thing.
Wait, how are Sinners higher rank than Hellborn and Imps/Hellhounds?
I'd personally swap Ars Goetia and The Seven Deadly Sins, and place Sinners below Imps & Hellhounds.
sinners should still be at the bottom of hell's social hierarchy, but can still keep their chance to ascend to an overlord
Fizz is an imp though
The lost its edge pretty rapidly. Most of the denizens of hell just seem like nice people at this point. One of so many shows that peaked in its trailer.
You know, based on the comments Viv said and the ones she likes, I don't think Hazbin will be on Netflix or HBO. It'll be somewhere else.
Adult Swim or STARS.
Given the existence of shows like "The boys", HB/HH being on Amazon Prime would give Viv a free pass to do many things not suitable on Youtube.
Maybe. Netflix and Hbo just seem out of the question though.
>You know, based on the comments Viv said and the ones she likes, I don't think Hazbin will be on Netflix or HBO
Nyoo, that would mean the hilarious rumor that she got fired over zoom is false
I hope that zoom rumor is true. But if I had to guess, I do not think the show would be on either of those platforms
>tfw when the archangels will either be twinks like alastor or overdesigned sparkledog like beel
I can’t wait for viv to make the archangel Gabriel into a male stripper with neon fire surrounding him because “lol GAY-briel”
if gabriel doesn't reference ultrakill at least once, I'm going to riot
If she did that... it's crossing the line in the sand
I think she might just go the trans route from how Gabriel’s gender is disbuted. Gabriel most likely justs chooses which sex to represent itself.
Cotton Candy is stuck in my head and I wanna shoot myself.
I was like that all day the first time I watched the episode.
Kneel before Sparkledog.
Remember that last thread, Vortex was confirmed bi, which means I can canonically bathe in peanut butter and make Vortex a very good boy.
>vortex was confirmed bi
huh?
I'm going to assume some anon stated he must have sucked dick when the bawds were arrested, because no cops can be chicks, and who the frick knows how they got back to hell anyways.
he groaned when Verosika said they gonna have to suck dicks so i dont think he liked doing it
That too. But some people are obsessed with every character becoming gay or bi or trans or whatever the frick even if no such hint even exists. Almost feels like they're a shitty bot stuck in a loop.
gotta get those brownie points, bro
>Show is called Helluva Boss
>Supposed to be about Blitzo being a boss and his dynamic with his coworkers
>Show completely throws that out, turns into Stolitz shipping and drama
>The fact that they're extra-dimensional contract killers from hell almost never comes up again
Someone post the thing
You know which
this reminds me a lot of this post about how the same thing basically happened with undertale
Here’s the real answer: they were written BY autistic people FOR autistic people. There’s also a comparison to be made with danganronpa and the “fanon” interpretations of all media and how they make all the horrible characters into innocent but snarky gays and every other character is just a weird amalgamation of memes and how people think they would act in these meme scenarios.
Undertale was always a parody of JRPGs though.
this begs the question
what is "Helluva Boss Prime"?
or better name, (I.M.P: Immediate Murder Professionals)?
The pilot
Moxxie wouldn't get fat shamed.
That's something that would've been some weird fandom in-joke, like Andrew Hussie's obsession with fat Vriska.
Same thing goes for the possum thing.
>Moxxie wouldn't get fat shamed.
You know, you COULD write some jokes about Moxxie being more on the malnourished side if anything.
Since he's more sophisticated than many of the other Imps, maybe you could write in something about how he would prefer smaller types of meals instead of larger ones that Imps need to sustain themselves down in the underworld. It'd at least be more character accurate and give REASON for the jokes, rather than just borderline insults.
>Loona stops calling Moxxie fat
>instead starts voicing concern over him being skin and bones and starts flinging candy bars at him
This is a big wall of text when you could really just explain Undertale's writing by understanding that Toby's sense of humor and style of writing is just Homestuck
Undertale "villains" are identical to the way Homestuck villains are written
The main villain of that comic is set up as a time travelling mob boss and you find out later he's actually a mentally stunted child acting out his deviantart fantasies who's entire motivation for destroying reality is that one of the main characters ripped his cape and beat him up as a kid
This is really weird to read when you know about how deltarune was the original intended game.
Hazbin/Hotel is specifically made by and for millennial women pushing 30 that were obsessed with invader zim, hot topic, and naruto/sasuke yaoi growing up. Literally everything about it is so specifically this.
It's a very specific demographic, and I have no idea why it has fans on Cinemaphile as a result.
I genuinely believe the only reason Cinemaphile likes it is because its a succesful webseries and because of its interesting concept
>Luna goes to party
>Luna leaves party
>Luna goes back to party with Blitzo
>Blitzo gets wasted and has to get tard wrangled
>The End
What the frick was the purpose of this episode? And its supposed to be a season finale? That people have been waiting how long for?
>pic rel
The show became a fanfiction of itself.
Loona*
>BlitzO
>LOOna
Frick me Spindlehorse is so full of homosexuals they really have to put holes in all the names whenever possible, huh?
>moxxie
>stolas
>octavia
You're onto something anon.
The characters with no O's in their name have no development because there's no holes to fill
>stella
>millie
>Moxxie likes pegging
>Stolas gives out his magic godbook for Blitzo's sticko
>Octavia is yet to have her holes filled
Is this how Vivziepop can still come out on top?
>Octavia is yet to have her holes filled
Where is her human bf, and why is he not doing his job?
Too busy trying to convince Cinemaphileners that he's not a furry
Hmofa isn't furry tho (sorry I had to)
And fricking a man in the ass isn't gay right
Verification not required
Stolas is ftm
Real
Shut the frick up you pathetic self-insert furry in denial, Octavia is for Loona only
They are sisters, yurigay.
Nice, I dig it.
>Loona
>Blitzo canonically can’t spell for shit, so her name is probably meant to be spelled “Luna”
Remember how the big emotional ending of the latest S2 episode was Blitzo going "Stolas..he can get hurt?!" even though Blitzo had to save Stolas from getting assassinated in S1? God this show is dumb
He didn't, though.
>He didn't, though.
?t=820
I don't remember that one, I thought you meant at the circus.
does anyone have the picture of striker holding stolas' severed head?
this show feels like it was made by freaks from deviantart and newgrounds that liked invader zim but didn't have the capacity to grasp why invader zim was good
"Hah. No wonder Hell is full of dykes, even their Princess is one"
How do you respond without sounding mad??
I would agree with adam
Uhhh sorry sir, but Charlie is bi
This image reminded me that I liked the idea of Adam being chubby.
What if you were Loona for a day?
Sleep it off I guess.
>Anon becomes a were-Loona
>every moonfall, he blacks out and wakes up somewhere else in a pile of liquor bottles, starbucks cups, and thigh highs
>has to go through the new instagram account on his phone to unravel what happened last night
>What if you were Loona for a day?
jerk off to myself for a day.
They made a massive fricking mistake focusing on the overarching drama shit instead of wacky episodic ACTUALLY ABOUT THE FRICKING BUSINESS format with some background overarching that only gets touched on every now and then.
Although it's also massively held back by none of the writing being funny or entertaining at all. It's like Borderlands tier
Do you guys think I could pay Angel Dust to hug me and tell me everything's going to be okay?
Not even he is degenerate enough to lie to you like that.
requires a major credit card and bank.
That would be sweet.
I'm pretty sure he himself wouldn't believe it if he said it.
never ever, that's how it is on this gay earth.
Vizie forgot
pamper this doggie
I like this, I want this, please Viv give me the ffm I need.
Just recently found out Jizoku is a woman apparently
Wait
What
Proofs?
Sauce?
Somehow I could see this but that is because Loona's mutual b***hiness towards M&M could give the impression they are hot and bothered with each other. Also, Loona doesn't have nearly the same fricked up dynamic with them that Blitzo does to make it incredibly uncomfortable.
Favorite character outside the main cast, GO
(Anyone who picks the owl is a gay)
Good boy Vortex of course.
Thanks to Viv's colleague we know that behind that tough exterior is an enthusiastic and tender bottom....
the little waiter imp
Stella is definitely fricking him out of spite.
How the frick is that olivia leak real
It looks like an amv about a girl who got cucked by her ex boyfriend not about a daughter and her estranged gay dad she seriously wants to frick him
Why couldn't they have just kept that resolution from the amusement park episode
??????
What
From a while ago
if it's a fake then it's a lot of fricking effort for one
and the millie moxie thing
Idg it. Stolas offed himself with pills?
>the millie moxie thing
Jesus fricking Christ that writing at the start.
Wouldn't be surprised if it was real from how shit it is.
>Wouldn't be surprised if it was real from how shit it is.
I have unfortunate news for you. It was posted on the website of someone who storyboards for the show for use in their portfolio and it leaked because they just forgot to password protect that page.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/134732141/#134741368
>it's real
It's official, Helluva Boss is fricked.
>and the millie moxie thing
I eagerly await this episode's release because it seems bad enough that even the most ardent of Vivzie's whiteknights will have to admit it's shit.
>Hey guys Millie is going to get an episode!
>it's actually a Blitz epiode
>and it's implied those suicidal feelings aren't actually Millie's and she's under the demon's influence AND her insecurities just tie back to Moxxie
I think when people asked for Millie to get more focus they meant more about her life before IMP, how she got into the assassination business, whatever the frick happened with Chaz and not this.
Did Rolando died at the end? I kinda like the guy.
I'm sure everybody who's known of Viv for more than a day was already expecting the tweest of Hazbin to be that heaven sucks and hell is for the cool kids.
But I still think that when the marketed premise of your yet-to-be-released show is "Hell is so shitty that the daughter of Lucifer starts a rehab clinic to redeem sinners and send them to heaven", it's really fricking dumb to just openly admit to pic related.
"I'm glad that hell is full of gays. I can relate to that."
What did she mean by this.
>homosexuals, murders, and druggie LA types all belong in Hell
finally something we agree on
Sam was probably the troll from last thread.
I heard Sam is insufferable to work with
Where do you guys get these rumours from Im asking genuinely. Do their discords get leaked?
https://erinfrostart.tumblr.com/post/687717644789530625/so-recently-an-ex-crew-member-on-helluva-boss
This is mostly what I've seen about Sam, I remember there was another ex-employee that posted on Twitter how awful she was but I can't remember their username.
Erin Frost said you have to go through a whole bunch of other random people before you can talk to Viv about anything, like concerns or problems.
Western women can't write.
is he /ourguy/
He's Stella's guy.
Yeah he is
Bets on whether Hazbin news at the end of this month will be anything more than another random gif?
I like the idea of the suicide demon a lot from that leak actually.
But Millie wanting to kill herself is bizzare and has no supporting evidence.
The idea that one of the main cast members could be talked into killing themselves WOULD be an interesting concept if it weren't for the fact that it's stupidly implemented, and for Moxxie and Millie of all characters.
Moxxie has shown in previous episodes that even if he's physically weak, he's by no mean a burden to the team, and has even talked it out with Blitzo in the past, even if a bit forced.
As for Millie, she's been married to Moxxie for a while now, and even if the episode started out with the two arguing or something, or Millie being self conscious about herself, it's far too little, far too late.
Maybe if it was re-written into a way that actually makes sense. Hell, even having Blitzo be the target for the suicide shit would've been a more interesting concept, since Vivzie seems to love shilling the idea that he's giga depressed because 'uwu soft boy with dark backstory' while not actually doing anything with it.
i love alastor
Same.
Is it Viv who insists on giving Blitz all these editorial hand jobs? Or is it one of her friends?
Loona would actually be a decent target for the suicide demon if you think about it. She's emotionally unstable and dresses like a cutter. Plenty of trauma to dig up too.
That'd require Viv putting aside her butthurt long enough to give Loona lines or attention outside of a musical meant to shill her other sparkledog video.
Would u a female striker
YES.
FRICK.
YES.
THAT'S ALL I WANT ALL THE TIME.
What would her statue look like?
Man that suicide demon/ghost scene dialogue is something straight out of fanfiction I thought was deep at age 13. How is it possible that 30-somethings write this show.
His attempt to break down Blitz was actually spot on tho.
Wowie, it's almost like they put more time into thinking about Blitzo's character dynamics than they do to literally every other character in the show!
Vivziepop realized her slightly less quirky gay demons were more profitable than her even more quirky gay demons.
Tf is homie spider
his estranged brother, arackniss
iirc he's more involved with the "family business" than angel and is more quiet and cynical
not a fan character, he just hasn't been in any official hazbin media aside from an animatic
Am I getting pulled into a fricking yaoi ship
yes.
yes you are.
What is it about this show that actively gaygens its fans?
Kill demons behead demons roundhouse kick a demon into the concrete
Quake moment.
Truth or dare goes to some interesting places
Really had to pick the stolitz of hazbin to simp over?
wrong, radiodust is the stolitz of hazbin
theres nothing there that doesn't play out better in charlastor
I started shipping Charlastor for spite.
Huskerdust is the butthole who's too afraid to open up to others paired with the overly sexual gay.
It's stolitz lite.
unlike stolitz, huskerdust actually serves a purpose in the stated premise of its show, and more so than radiodust
alastor just seems like an enabling rebound from valentino, huskerdust seems riper for mutual character growth and inspiring each other to become better people
Bro, why are you bringing up radiodust?
Also, this is a vivzie show, you really think they'll "inspire each other to be better"? Because that's pretty much the same concept for stolitz, and that turned into dogshit.
Love can only be straight. Why does this offend them
won't vaggie just get up in a few minutes
He can eat pieces of her, wait for her to regenerate, and then keep doing it again and again as he likes.
When it stops being about the sad gays.
So never.
I hope Octavia makes the right choice.
And get implants?
I mean yeah.
Seriously, Octavia embracing her mother more than being stuck to her daddy issues seems like a route to fix herself up. She seems to idolize a man who has VERY OFTEN let her down and seems to have no female role model in her life.
The closest you get is Loona being a friend but even that doesn't seem like a thing canon wise.
I wanna frick huge eyelashes demon.
I can't believe hellboy69 sounds like a bootleg Muscle Man.
Nobody cares about him
Good
I care about him
Moxxie is my love
>tfw i don't mind the gay drama and think it's actually quite nice
That's cause you're bi
Heres a idea:
Imagine a Onestate/WE-esque faction focused on redeeming sinners by stripping away their ability to indulge in vices, demons and sinners associated with gluttony greed lust etc are put into factory jobs working in gray colored buildings and made to live a monotonous and busy life to ensure they can't keep indulging in their main sin, some are outfitted with mechanical body parts to speed up the processes of removing the ability to feel tempted to sin again, those who don't go along are seen as "Rejecting their last chance" basically imagine a cross between oceania and the strogg with a big focus on industrialization and a hivemind mentality.
I like it, i would imagine them being in constant war with the rest of hell but still able to hold a little territory thats like a fortress/cathedral(but grey and plain/factory mix.
Exactly the kind of gimmick i had in mind, places controlled by are slowly painted over and turned from colorful and chaotic to grayscale and controlled.
WE! *throws demon into brick factory*
Based as frick. Much more intresting than original vivz kindergarten depravity.
Thank you,
Here's a little short story to give an idea of the factions actions:
>Be imp
>Hanging out in gluttony section, getting rowdy at a party, you've probably tripped over 3 passed out drunks by now, everyone is partying it up music is blasting
>Loud sound from outside
>guys in gray uniforms storm the area, everyone who resists gets blow away
>They capture you and your fellow partygoers, and knock you out
>Wake up, find yourself in a gray concrete and steel factory, the sound of machinery roars throughout the building.
>Soldier in gray uniform stands over you,
"Welcome to our ranks worker #2703, you have been assigned to factory number 13 in sector 8"
>Go to assembly line, several sinners in gray work uniforms with emotionless expressions are working in almost perfect sync, never saying a word or looking away from the assembly line.
>Soldier hands you a uniform of your own and tells you to head to changing area so you can begin your shift.
Would this fit the aesthetic you have in mind? Its a game set in this massive abattoir/meat processing plant where humans are harvested by cyborg pigmen.
Kind of, cyborgs wouldn't be super common and would moreso just be made to control really troublesome demons who's personality can't be destroyed with mere labor, like the stalkers in half life.
This kinda reminds me of the 40K Iron Warriors or the Duergar. I really like it.
Yeah, i see plenty of ideas for factions that are stuff like dead templars dead soldiers etc, but i felt that the best foil to the denizens of hell would be a bunch of humorless utilitarians in gray uniforms who think they need to fix the whole "indulgence" problem in hell.
Someone made this character called Finn Tagart or something, I think it was Bigdad. But yeah sullen bitter joyless pricks like the Duergar or Iron Warriors would be the perfect foil. Maybe add a bit of Chaos Dwarf to make it more hellish. I once had an idea for a HB villain who was an overlord or Goetia prince, who ruled a region of hell that was under constant surveillance and he had this peawiener/brindlestar theme with vines with flowers that were also eyeballs, and every single imp/devil/sinner there was always covering their faces and walking quietly and whispering lest they be seen and reported and Blitzo and friends had to do a hit there so they had to be extremely careful
"Inside of every demon is a rai-HARD WORKING LABORER, GET BACK TO YOUR STATION #2306
based hoi4 mod enjoyer, has that one been updated to a playable state yet?
Im pretty sure the one state is playable in the latest release, you can always roll back the version to play the old version if not.
checking the steam page for red flood and it looks like most countries still dont have focus trees, will any mod ever be as developed as kaiserreich?
Tno almost was but then the devs turned out to be dog/kid diddlers, twr and great war are your best bets.
tno was always totally batshit crazy unrealistic leftist fan fiction, twr is far more grounded and even that displays a bluepilled level of knowledge still
The best part of tno was it's popularization of super events, the rest is well, okay, i think werbell is really cool in the mod and i love the memes about speer and tabby but i can't shake off the fact that the lead dev is a zoophile and the fact that it's community took the devs side because the guy exposing them made some offensive jokes.
oh yeah, and even worse than what i mentioned, it was also not a video game anymore, it was a graphic novel / cyoa hybrid reading sim
>Be sinner, hanging out at bar chatting with some sharks from the greed level, haven't gotten any alcohol yet because your broke and won't admit it to your friends.
>Suddenly 60 guys in uniform barge into the bar and begin taking away some of the customers, the sharks your with reach for their pistols but are dropped in nanoseconds in a synchronized movement by the guys in gray uniforms.
>Get handcuffed by soldiers, loaded into a truck along with some other demons and sinners who weren't able to fight back, you go to say "Where are they taking us-" but the driver shouts "QUIET"
>An hour later arrive at a train station with with a few other trucks, guards push you and the other demons into the train, a incubus tries to make a run for it but is eviscerated by a troopers machinegun
>After 2 hours or so arrive at your destination, gray factories and work camps surrounded by barbed wire and guard-posts cover the landscape, the sound of machinery, factory sirens, and train whistles echo everywhere, smokestacks everywhere and the smog from them blots out the sky
>Begin your shift at a munitions facility.
>The rest is just teenage drama
U wot m8
Vivziepop 'content'
>theres a gay guy
>but hes sad 🙁
>so he needs a guy with a big dick!
>the end :3
>this my girl Bee
>Bee who?
>Beelze muh balls
To spark some conversation, how would you guys go about making a HB / HH visual novel / dating sim?
I would have the player as a sinner who took a job at IMP as a janitor.
Have the player be able to decide what his sinner appearance is, which affects the disposition of each character a little bit. I wouldn't have M&M be able to be romanced, but you could become a bro with them, a ride or die friendship with Moxxie.
The more you increase your affection with Loona, the higher the chances Blitzo beats the shit out of you in a random encounter.
Idea I had is that it starts in the human world, the player either recently being fired and going to drown his sorrows, or he and his buddies go bar hopping, then either dying in a barfight [Glass Him] or getting thrown out of the bar and as a callback to the pilot you getting killed by mistake, last thing you hear before you die being “Shit, we got the wrong one!”
Alternate scenario is if not romancing Loona you could have some chance to get into fight with Blitzo mano-a-mano after dealing with his dipshit behavior for too long. Fighting fair rather than dirty, that may backfire horribly but it could reflect on how other's view you for throwing down the gauntlet but having respect for your opponent.
>who took a job at IMP as a janitor.
>anon wants to do it for free
You expect Blitzo to pay a living wage?
Ehh. I don't know about that. Blitzo's a cheapskate, but you wouldn't want to break the audience's suspension of disbelief.
I mean, who would want to clean up after a bunch of juvenile imbeciles for hours on end, every day, for ZERO financial compensation? You'd have to be a real special kind of mentally ill to do that...
>that episode where the helicopter smashes through the whole office
>Blitzo tells you to have it all clean when they get back or he's docking your pay
Well, maybe have a option to choose to be either a sinner or a normal human(because me and some people like that afterall), but the difference should be only at the beggining or some dialogue during the game; as a sinner you try to take a hit on someone/get hired at I.M.P, as a human you almost get killed by I.M.P, but because they can't let someone that knows hell exist they either take you to hell or hire you as a "ground agent"(with the threat of being killed if the secret gets out), maybe you end up helping them because you're both trying to kill the same person, and the fight got difficult so you bond over it could also work, maybe have I.M.P members as the only romanceable options in this setting, and other characters through other backgrounds(trying to summon a demon and maybe you get either one of the birds, or verosika for example)
I'd start with one of those multiple-yandere sims, replace the assets and dialogue and call it done.
I would go on with Moxxie being the MC obviously. Let's just say that Millie is away with her family who do not want to see Moxxie and some Demons just decide to stalk and try to seduce him in their own ways (or kidnap him) and the challenge would be pretty much not get corrupted until she comes back as you are pretty much on a minefield. And each one if they get you get their own small story where you have to get away before getting corrupted or stop a relationship from going too far.
considering how much the fandom ships him with everyone this is the most realistic one that would be successful
I love how so many people ship Moxxie with his canonical, on-screen and explicit molester.
I ship him with Stella. I find it an interesting ship (well with Stella that is not just a raging moron we see in Season 2).
Also Angel Dust because it feels interesting as well.
It was be cool.
Reminder
Viv’s fatal flaw is that she writes in a way that appeals exclusively to her tastes
When is the next M&M or Octavia episode?
What's she listening to, Cinemaphile?
>Octavia is at Stylish Occult staring at a taxidermy'd animal
>you get a little curious, picking her up by her waist and slowly rotating her around, watching her head stay in place, before you put her back down
>she finally snaps out of it and looks over, "Sorry, did you say something?"
demons walk WHAT
I think this fits her well
JonTron’s rendition of Katy Perry’s Fireworks
I’d have it to where IMP is the first place you apply (because you figure you need income and it was the first place you came across) and Blitz is just a sperg and hires you right away. You get stuck with janitorial duties once he figures out you can’t leave the Pride Circle (since he’s ignorant of Stolas being able to be harmed by angelic weapons, I wouldn’t put it past him to not know the same applies to Sinners or that Sinners can’t leave the Pride Circle either), for the hmofa people this would also mean you’re often left behind with Loona on missions. The player would also likely run into an entirely new character that tells you of the overarching plot of the yearly purge (and how something is off with how everything operates in Hell) while also providing some loredumps occasionally.
>The player would also likely run into an entirely new character
Have him run into Angel Dust on a street corner when he first shows up, he can give you an exposition dump
Yeah, that could work, especially eliminates the need for an OC Donut Steele to explain the purges for him, but I was more talking along the lines of some of the schizo ramblings I’ve had on the series here before (pic related) or how the purges might be needed not entirely for “overpopulation” but if what I heard was said in an old Q&A is correct, because the remains of Sinners are also used to build infrastructure or are converted into some kind of currency.
If you do, call him Alex Hyde
>”Hey buddy, you arrived at a great time, just missed the purge.”
>Vaggie gets purged and you get to comfort Charlie
>"Hey buddy, you got the wrong realm. The angel club is two dimensions up."
>”The Purge?”
>”Damn, you are new. See, every year a bunch of feathered fellahs show up, if they kill ya’, you’re dead for good. They say Hell’s overpopulated, and the purges are a way to make things a bit roomier. Staying inside will usually keep ya’ safe but not always.”
>”Oh, thanks.”
>”Fuhgeddabouddit, first one’s free. Just do me a favor and if anyone’s looking for a good time, send ‘em ol’ Angel Dust’s way.”
Headstrong by Trapt.
>"Kill all the gays / And the homosexuals / Kill all the gays / And the homosexuals / Kill. All. The. Gays. / Break their bones!
The only good thing about this series is that it warns you that gays and furris are going to hell.
In a way? I've been having some ideas about something like that. And I mean come on. He is at this point the one character it would work for.
If you guys think the trend is bad now, imagine how many daily hate watch threads we will get when the hotel show actually starts.
Dumbass frickin design
https://twitter.com/Catchous/status/1673229463570505731?s=19
Not surprising since Viv and her supporters parrot this shit unironically.
It's telling that the only people who like this design are coomers, isn't it?
gonna cum
I mean, go ahead. I won't stop you from proving me right.
Everything would have been fixed if she was a hellhound who got power from Beelzebub. Like a warlock, or a mini-overlord like Alastor.
I like this design someone made
As a bug fricker, seeing all these redesigns is an absolute delight.
A little busy, but I like the crown of flies.
Really loving some of the redesigns people made of Beelzebub.
Stick figures?
No. Dont bee so stuffy
I'm just trying to bee myself, anon.
Everyone who watches this show is the biggest gayest furry coomer consumers to have ever existed.
Her latest flaming bag of dog shit dropped on a doorstep doesn't even register on rankings of cringe ass designs from her.
She is a nice and hot design, but not one I would choose for Beelzebub.
..
To think a guy like Richard Horvitz got roped into this show.
I mean, Invader Zim was a big influence on spindlehorse and it's fanbase tends to overlap, still sad his talents are being wasted.
Wow. 2000s cartoons really were a disaster for millenial white women.
>tfw HB is probably the most work Horvitz has gotten in the last 4 years besides Psychonauts 2 and Enter the Florpus.
The Late Silver Age and it's consequences.
Here's another redesign I like too.
>a working bra
Best part of the design tbhaich
I feel like angels should have been given a mechanical or clockwork vibe, to drive home how they are instruments of god's will and the order heaven represents.
That would be more of an Islamic thing, rather than christianity though. Then again Viv supposedly takes her inspiration from Dante and Milton and they borrowed ideas from Islam
Mechanical angels would make the faction idea work even better.
Im so glad this idea is being welcomed, it's been sitting in the back of my mind for a week until now.
More ideas for faction:
Wrath demons are often assigned to military endeavors due to violent nature,
greed, gluttony, and pride demons are put into factories and construction jobs as the monotonous labor slowly turns the mindset of "I need a party with crack and prostitutes NOW!" into "Wow! my work shift ended a hour early, what a lucky day!"
Lust demons are usually put into factories aswell but are the ones most often turned into cyborgs as their main sin is the hardest to stamp out of someone so the cybernetics are there to make it easier to stop them from acting on their impulses.
Another idea for faction: The science department of said faction starts looking into a way to destroy the "immortal" members of hell as they are the biggest threats to the cause.
Also i wouldn't mind some name suggestions, i had the name idea of "Purity Through Work" but it's more like a slogan than a name, "Workers Republic Of Salvation" is another.
"Holy Peoples Republic Of Hell" is probably the goofiest one i can think of.
Man I wouldn't even pity frick Viv.
I want to feed Vortex peanut butter while he bottoms for me like the good boy he is.
>Your time has come, Stolas.
>and I ain't a goetia, or an exterminator, or an imp with a gun, or any other fancy killer.
>I'm Death. Straight. Up.
never
it was never a muh thing a week that you screaming babies keep claiming it was.
it was always horny owl wants big red imp dick.
I'm tired of you homosexuals pretending that there was substance to this show. if you don't like it, don't watch it.
Honestly the shows concept (Hell as a nation/alternate world) is it's sole good part, it lends itself to so many interesting ideas.
Where is she? She shallow but she not is irritating compare to the rest of the cast.
Straight people like her too much. She had to be nerfed.
You WILL jerk off to the owl.
You're right, Octavia is way hotter than Verosika, and Stella is hotter than Octavia
>the episode with Beelzebub is season 1 episode 8
>after almost the entirety of season 2 is already out
>it adds nothing to season 1 or 2
What the frick.
Sorry hater, but Vivzie preemptively said this episode wouldn't have any major plot development in it, so that automatically nullifies any and all criticism you have toward its writing. But please ignore the continuity error of Loona finally being nice to her dad and then immediately treating him like garbage in S2E2.
Honestly the writing doesn't bother me. I just don't understand the point of making the ep.
hot take here. Cotton Candy was a shit song. Loona is a cuck.
What is the ideal series for the person who hates Helluva Boss, hates devils, hates demons, hates satanism and wants a totally anti-Helluva Boss series in everything?
Morel Orel.
Joe Pera Talks with You
Why did they have to cancel it?
Joe pera annoying the shit out of Blitz would be amazing
The look of a man who has severe back pain from years of reckless pegging
cant go too hard anymore or else he'll throw his back out and it'll hurt for several days
>throw his back out and it'll hurt for several days
He just like me fr
lol boomer
It'll happen to you.
ok boomer
But..
I'm just a kid...
>Anon, we haven't been kids for 65 years.
>me in the glasses
It did.
But i'm hoping to hook up with that young cutie with the bottle of 'Smear' i'm standing behind.
That poor guy hit the wall so hard
Why does that guy have St. Peter's cross on his arm?
Viv doesn't know jack about religion and thinks its a satanic symbol like most moronic satanists.
Who woulda thought that satanism is just Rent Free: the Religion and most of them are as educated as an alabama inbred.
I wonder if Hazbin Hotel will abandon its initial premise as quickly as this show did and have Charlie bother trying to redeem sinners only for a couple of episodes before they pivot to some other shit.
>hazbin
>ever being released
>Main series' plot is about a group of shitters in Hell going to Earth to kill people for money because they are all seriously strapped for cash
>Only two of the 12 episodes are about it
Bravo..
>first few episodes set up premise of the show to get people interested
>show proceeds to never follow it again and instead just have the characters frick around
Aqua Teen Hunger Force did the same thing
I get the comparison but don't compare athf to this shit anyway.
they could probably do some funny shit if they wanted but they're too lazy to make it about anything but stolas family drama
like if they kept on being banished back to hell during their jobs by a demon hunter that's an obvious vampire hunter d/dante parody
Adventure Time made it so every animated episodic comedy devolves into a CW melodramedy
I think it has more to do with how animation is seen by companies in the west, serious stuff has to be for kids and adult stuff can only be comedies about drunkenness and swearing, only major American animated series with a r rating and a serious tone i can think of is primal.
As a result aniamtors who want to do serious stuff for adults wind up having to weave it into comedies because there isn't a big audience for serious cartoons about adult topics.
>The rest is just teenage drama.
>vivzieverse
>not expecting teenage drama
Kek.
Do you want more modern writing of "OH MY GOSH I CAN'T DEAL WITH MY STUDENT LOANS!!!"
do you think i.m.p were paid to make picrel look like he did it
Puts Blitzo in the Crippler Crossface
That this keeps getting removed by Vizie's buttblasted fans and the cumslurping janny in here should tell you why they're slowly moving away from RL human sinners despite joking about dead kids in the first two episodes. Go on, do a school shooter hiring IMP Viziepop but you haven't got the balls because you're a stupid hot topic invader zim b***h.