i'm gonna lose my shit if they get australian accents
Bushworld voices would be best result
Yeah, it's gonna fricking dip the moment long-time fans hear god-awful voices. They will literally change the channel and throw our their RNM merch. Justin Roiland was the show.
How is the big ending between rick and rick prime supposed to mean shit when it won't be the ricks voice(s) you've heard so far the whole series and also roiland's gone and probably never gave a frick about that plotline aka the whole show and it's emotional parts the whole time or just stopped giving a frick about it eventually
no wonder they just started doing random shits and sprinkling in "lore" in the background, it doesn't mean anything and never will
sucks
>supposed to mean shit
literally nothing in the show is supposed to mean shit, havent you watched the show?
just because they sprinkle in a depressing song at the end of a couple episodes doesnt mean the show was ever anything more than a comedy
>and also roiland's gone and probably never gave a frick about that plotline aka the whole show
You just realized this now?
It's been pretty obvious since season 3 that Evil Morty was meant to be a one off villain that got brought back from immense fan demand.
The Season 3 episode being wildly different from how the Citadel was portrayed in Season 1 makes it pretty obvious they wrote a pile of new shit and retconned everything about the Citadel to shoehorn in Evil Morty as a thing.
Definitely. I don't think the writers had a solid vision for Rick and Morty until mid-Season 2. Whether giving Evil Morty a bigger role was due to fan demand or the writers' own desires is still up in the air, but Roiland totally just wanted to do more silly adventures and sitcom family B-plots like the Meeseeks episode. His legal troubles didn't start until 2020, so I don't know what made him butt heads with Harmon and just walk away from the writers' room years earlier.
>butt heads
There was a good bit of journalism that was done about the fall of Roiland. It explained that there were two factions in the writing room, Roiland's people and the professionals Harmon brought in from his past work, such as people from Community and such. Roiland wanted wild and nonsensical shit, which we could identify as Meeseeks, Poopy Butthole, and King Jellybean and Harmon's people wanted to write cohesive stories. They fought Roiland very hard on King Jellybean because they didn't see the narrative value of Morty dodging rape in a washroom. To me, the King Jellybean thing was funny, it SHOWED that the world was a dark and shitty place rather than having Rick TELL you it was cynical and shitty. The Harmon team demanded that Jellybean dies at the end because they couldn't just let a rapist slide, which is ridiculous given how much worse Rick is.
My personal opinion is that Harmon's people were slightly more in the wrong for pushing back against Roiland's impulses. I usually don't like lolrandom bullshit but Roiland's lolrandom bullshit was actually funny because it added a non-serious dimension to Rick's character, like Rick breaking into his savings to flip Nintendos was a Roiland thing. Likewise Rick's drunken rants at Morty were obviously Roiland (and if you ask me the best parts of the whole show. I'm not saying Roiland wasn't a fricking child because I think it's just fricking moronic to spend all day shooting nerf guns at each other or parading around a porn star you're fricking around the office, but I do feel like all the jokes that were Roiland-esque were actually the best parts of the show. Because after Roiland left, it was pretty fricking clear the writers that took control, hired by Harmon, were the most worthless frickers around because all they did from that moment on was just copy pop culture icons and attach a sitcom script to them. Kinda like how the entire Mad Max episode was just some stupid relationship script.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>The Harmon team demanded that Jellybean dies at the end because they couldn't just let a rapist slide
I don't remember that...
8 months ago
Anonymous
I could be wrong and am repeating something that wasn't in the article but something I read here. I am certain that the writing room went to war over King Jellybean trying to rape Morty.
8 months ago
Anonymous
That episode was pretty early on, back when the original writers' room was more balanced between Harmon and Roiland's sensibilities, so I doubt there was very much head-butting there. If anything, maybe S&P took issue with it, but I'm only guessing.
What I do remember was it being the show's very first controversy. IIRC Roiland had to explain on Twitter that the bathroom scene wasn't making light of rape but rather was intended to be off-putting to sell just how fricked up Morty's adventure had gotten.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>was intended to be off-putting to sell just how fricked up Morty's adventure had gotten
That's exactly how I took it, that the awfulness of the universe had caught up to Morty in a way that was personal. The fact that the other writers got up in arms about this is just totally insane given that the season featured wholesale mutation of the entire population, enslavement of the entire human race, and I'm sure a lot of other shit that's just so much worse than what happened to Morty.
Like how fricking small does their brains have to be to tolerate just unfathomable amounts of murder and cruelty towards innocents perpetuated by Rick and have a fricking problem when Morty encounters a rapist in public. I mean holy shit Morty's family lost everything they knew let alone the fricking entire planet getting Cronenburg'd.
The voices from the Australian Special. This will not be mentioned at all. They will not fake American accents either. They will just be their straight faced voicing the characters.
I'm catching up on Solar Opposites and just got to the birthday and Stockiverse episodes. Korvo is like the nega-Rick in all the best ways. His insecurities affect him so strikingly it's hilarious
hopefully no one
hopefully he fricking died after getting his bones all broken in his incel gym
fricking hate this character so fricking much
hoooeey i sound like a fricking homosexual and grate on everyones ears hoooeeey im the best character ever riiiight!?!?!?!
I don't understand the point of severing ties with Roiland, are they going to re-voice the whole show retroactively or are they going to keep making money on the seasons Roiland voiced? Is Roiland going to keep making royalties off of those seasons?
"Known" being the keyword, his behavior was an open secret in the industry for years and no one cared, it was only when associating with him started to hurt their potential profit that they took actual action on it. They will still gladly continue to profit on the cartoon and characters and voices invented by the abuser, what they did was a token gesture.
>they probably don't feel comfortable working with a known abuser
That's a oxymoron. If it was "known" they would have cut him off a long time ago. The more apt truth is >Roiland got caught and they didn't want to deal with the PR backlash of keeping him
That last question is what I've been wondering about this whole time. Does Roiland still profit off of reruns or merch sales or all that shit? Or was there some loophole in his contract that allows WBD and Adult Swim to cut him out of future profits entirely should he violate some clause? Like, something that presents the show in a bad light like sexual misconduct or having the entire crew collectively boot him off the show? I feel like that's something that should be cleared up publicly, especially if they still plan on doing more beyond Season 10.
If Roiland has an agreement to get points off reruns that agreement will still be intact. What he has lost is his job and the compensation associated with the job, it has nothing to do with compensation from the earnings of the show itself.
Imagine some guy who owns a piece of a hotel and is also the manager. If the other owners decide to fire him as the manager, he still owns a piece of the hotel. Obviously Roiland doesn't own any piece of Rick and Morty (because creators almost never do) but he is still entitled to whatever compensation agreement he had before (assuming he had some agreement that entitled him to a cut of the reruns).
I'm curious if merch is any different. I remember one of the Simpsons guys struck a deal with FOX that owed him a certain percentage of the profit from merch early on in the show's run. You can guess he was pretty well off thanks to that
It just depends on what kind of contractual agreement you have based on your negotiations in the past. You won't know unless someone mentions it out loud and in American workplace culture people tend to not talk about their compensation because upper management doesn't want people realizing they are being grossly underpaid.
Well Roiland was being grossly OVERpaid, we know that much.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>we know that much
We do? I don't think we do. Overpaid compared to who, the average content creator or overpaid compared to Harmon? I don't think you can overpay Roiland by any standard he was a vital component of a merch and media money printer. He obviously would be able to justify far more compensation than someone like Alex Hirsch or Genndy.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Voicing the two main characters made him one of the most important parts of the show's success. Dude's got awful people skills and made many enemies behind the scenes, but he earned his money.
They want the best ratio of social justice points to profitability they can get. Wokies don't watch old things, and it would be expensive, so they won't redub the old seasons.
That last question is what I've been wondering about this whole time. Does Roiland still profit off of reruns or merch sales or all that shit? Or was there some loophole in his contract that allows WBD and Adult Swim to cut him out of future profits entirely should he violate some clause? Like, something that presents the show in a bad light like sexual misconduct or having the entire crew collectively boot him off the show? I feel like that's something that should be cleared up publicly, especially if they still plan on doing more beyond Season 10.
If Roiland has an agreement to get points off reruns that agreement will still be intact. What he has lost is his job and the compensation associated with the job, it has nothing to do with compensation from the earnings of the show itself.
Imagine some guy who owns a piece of a hotel and is also the manager. If the other owners decide to fire him as the manager, he still owns a piece of the hotel. Obviously Roiland doesn't own any piece of Rick and Morty (because creators almost never do) but he is still entitled to whatever compensation agreement he had before (assuming he had some agreement that entitled him to a cut of the reruns).
It's also worth pointing out that the money Adult Swim and WB likely make off Rick and Morty VASTLY outweighs the amount in royalties that they have to pay to Roiland. It's more cost effective to keep on milking the cash cow than it is to cancel the show purely to spite Roiland out of royalties. Paying him compensation for reruns of old episodes is peanuts compared to the cash that comes in through merch, ratings and brand deals.
This. WBD and Adult Swim don't give a shit about Roiland's behavior over the years. They just don't want to look bad by still having him employed. If they COULD get away with keeping him on the show somehow, they would.
The fact that they've held out revealing it for this long means they know it's bad, so it must be really really bad. Like Simpsons recasting nonwhite characters level bad.
It's 4D chess, anon. They know that everyone--both fans and haters alike--will want to tune in and hear the voices for themselves. Maybe they're a little scared, but this is mostly an intentional publicity stunt.
I think I only watched the first episode of last season. I didn't start hating it or anything, just didn't care enough to keep up with it I guess. Might catch up at some point.
At this rate it wouldn't surprise me if you don't find out until the first episode is released. I'm sure they are going to take advantage of all the hype behind the new "voices" just to increase the ratings and the buzz around this new season.
It could be that, instead of mentioning it once and moving past it like in Solar Opposites, they'll try to lean into it, and make a joke out of how jarring the change is. Maybe they'll use already-famous people with distinctive voices, like John Malkovich and the kid with no teeth from Stranger Things.
Maybe they do something tacky, like having different guest voices in each episode. It might be funny if they still had the same actor play both characters.
i'm gonna lose my shit if they get british accents
Yeah, it's gonna fricking dip the moment long-time fans hear god-awful voices. They will literally change the channel and throw our their RNM merch. Justin Roiland was the show.
i'm gonna lose my shit if they get australian accents
Bushworld voices would be best result
Bushworld being the main canon would be great.
I'm gonna lose my shit if they have midwestern accents
I'm gonna lose my shit if they have black accents
Both will be voices by Tracy Morgan.
frick you, get Jane to do Morty
They'll use the original recorded lines but claim it's someone anonymous.
Me
How is the big ending between rick and rick prime supposed to mean shit when it won't be the ricks voice(s) you've heard so far the whole series and also roiland's gone and probably never gave a frick about that plotline aka the whole show and it's emotional parts the whole time or just stopped giving a frick about it eventually
no wonder they just started doing random shits and sprinkling in "lore" in the background, it doesn't mean anything and never will
sucks
>supposed to mean shit
literally nothing in the show is supposed to mean shit, havent you watched the show?
just because they sprinkle in a depressing song at the end of a couple episodes doesnt mean the show was ever anything more than a comedy
GOD ISN'T REAL MORTY, BUY WENDY'S
>and also roiland's gone and probably never gave a frick about that plotline aka the whole show
You just realized this now?
It's been pretty obvious since season 3 that Evil Morty was meant to be a one off villain that got brought back from immense fan demand.
>the season where Evil Morty became president of the Citadel made it obvious that he was a one-off
The Season 3 episode being wildly different from how the Citadel was portrayed in Season 1 makes it pretty obvious they wrote a pile of new shit and retconned everything about the Citadel to shoehorn in Evil Morty as a thing.
Definitely. I don't think the writers had a solid vision for Rick and Morty until mid-Season 2. Whether giving Evil Morty a bigger role was due to fan demand or the writers' own desires is still up in the air, but Roiland totally just wanted to do more silly adventures and sitcom family B-plots like the Meeseeks episode. His legal troubles didn't start until 2020, so I don't know what made him butt heads with Harmon and just walk away from the writers' room years earlier.
>butt heads
There was a good bit of journalism that was done about the fall of Roiland. It explained that there were two factions in the writing room, Roiland's people and the professionals Harmon brought in from his past work, such as people from Community and such. Roiland wanted wild and nonsensical shit, which we could identify as Meeseeks, Poopy Butthole, and King Jellybean and Harmon's people wanted to write cohesive stories. They fought Roiland very hard on King Jellybean because they didn't see the narrative value of Morty dodging rape in a washroom. To me, the King Jellybean thing was funny, it SHOWED that the world was a dark and shitty place rather than having Rick TELL you it was cynical and shitty. The Harmon team demanded that Jellybean dies at the end because they couldn't just let a rapist slide, which is ridiculous given how much worse Rick is.
My personal opinion is that Harmon's people were slightly more in the wrong for pushing back against Roiland's impulses. I usually don't like lolrandom bullshit but Roiland's lolrandom bullshit was actually funny because it added a non-serious dimension to Rick's character, like Rick breaking into his savings to flip Nintendos was a Roiland thing. Likewise Rick's drunken rants at Morty were obviously Roiland (and if you ask me the best parts of the whole show. I'm not saying Roiland wasn't a fricking child because I think it's just fricking moronic to spend all day shooting nerf guns at each other or parading around a porn star you're fricking around the office, but I do feel like all the jokes that were Roiland-esque were actually the best parts of the show. Because after Roiland left, it was pretty fricking clear the writers that took control, hired by Harmon, were the most worthless frickers around because all they did from that moment on was just copy pop culture icons and attach a sitcom script to them. Kinda like how the entire Mad Max episode was just some stupid relationship script.
>The Harmon team demanded that Jellybean dies at the end because they couldn't just let a rapist slide
I don't remember that...
I could be wrong and am repeating something that wasn't in the article but something I read here. I am certain that the writing room went to war over King Jellybean trying to rape Morty.
That episode was pretty early on, back when the original writers' room was more balanced between Harmon and Roiland's sensibilities, so I doubt there was very much head-butting there. If anything, maybe S&P took issue with it, but I'm only guessing.
What I do remember was it being the show's very first controversy. IIRC Roiland had to explain on Twitter that the bathroom scene wasn't making light of rape but rather was intended to be off-putting to sell just how fricked up Morty's adventure had gotten.
>was intended to be off-putting to sell just how fricked up Morty's adventure had gotten
That's exactly how I took it, that the awfulness of the universe had caught up to Morty in a way that was personal. The fact that the other writers got up in arms about this is just totally insane given that the season featured wholesale mutation of the entire population, enslavement of the entire human race, and I'm sure a lot of other shit that's just so much worse than what happened to Morty.
Like how fricking small does their brains have to be to tolerate just unfathomable amounts of murder and cruelty towards innocents perpetuated by Rick and have a fricking problem when Morty encounters a rapist in public. I mean holy shit Morty's family lost everything they knew let alone the fricking entire planet getting Cronenburg'd.
AI
The rick and morty writers love meta humor and hate Justin so they'll drag out the voice thing for a while.
I’m voicing Morty. Not sure about the Rick guy tho
The voices from the Australian Special. This will not be mentioned at all. They will not fake American accents either. They will just be their straight faced voicing the characters.
I'm catching up on Solar Opposites and just got to the birthday and Stockiverse episodes. Korvo is like the nega-Rick in all the best ways. His insecurities affect him so strikingly it's hilarious
Enough about them. Who's voicing HIM?
hopefully no one
hopefully he fricking died after getting his bones all broken in his incel gym
fricking hate this character so fricking much
hoooeey i sound like a fricking homosexual and grate on everyones ears hoooeeey im the best character ever riiiight!?!?!?!
They still have the same voices but they switched them around and now Rick sounds like Morty and Morty sounds like rick
https://twitter.com/RealMortysays/status/1685812678105899008
i'm gonna lose my accent if they get shit
I don't understand the point of severing ties with Roiland, are they going to re-voice the whole show retroactively or are they going to keep making money on the seasons Roiland voiced? Is Roiland going to keep making royalties off of those seasons?
they probably don't feel comfortable working with a known abuser
"Known" being the keyword, his behavior was an open secret in the industry for years and no one cared, it was only when associating with him started to hurt their potential profit that they took actual action on it. They will still gladly continue to profit on the cartoon and characters and voices invented by the abuser, what they did was a token gesture.
>they probably don't feel comfortable working with a known abuser
That's a oxymoron. If it was "known" they would have cut him off a long time ago. The more apt truth is
>Roiland got caught and they didn't want to deal with the PR backlash of keeping him
That last question is what I've been wondering about this whole time. Does Roiland still profit off of reruns or merch sales or all that shit? Or was there some loophole in his contract that allows WBD and Adult Swim to cut him out of future profits entirely should he violate some clause? Like, something that presents the show in a bad light like sexual misconduct or having the entire crew collectively boot him off the show? I feel like that's something that should be cleared up publicly, especially if they still plan on doing more beyond Season 10.
If Roiland has an agreement to get points off reruns that agreement will still be intact. What he has lost is his job and the compensation associated with the job, it has nothing to do with compensation from the earnings of the show itself.
Imagine some guy who owns a piece of a hotel and is also the manager. If the other owners decide to fire him as the manager, he still owns a piece of the hotel. Obviously Roiland doesn't own any piece of Rick and Morty (because creators almost never do) but he is still entitled to whatever compensation agreement he had before (assuming he had some agreement that entitled him to a cut of the reruns).
I'm curious if merch is any different. I remember one of the Simpsons guys struck a deal with FOX that owed him a certain percentage of the profit from merch early on in the show's run. You can guess he was pretty well off thanks to that
It just depends on what kind of contractual agreement you have based on your negotiations in the past. You won't know unless someone mentions it out loud and in American workplace culture people tend to not talk about their compensation because upper management doesn't want people realizing they are being grossly underpaid.
Well Roiland was being grossly OVERpaid, we know that much.
>we know that much
We do? I don't think we do. Overpaid compared to who, the average content creator or overpaid compared to Harmon? I don't think you can overpay Roiland by any standard he was a vital component of a merch and media money printer. He obviously would be able to justify far more compensation than someone like Alex Hirsch or Genndy.
Voicing the two main characters made him one of the most important parts of the show's success. Dude's got awful people skills and made many enemies behind the scenes, but he earned his money.
They want the best ratio of social justice points to profitability they can get. Wokies don't watch old things, and it would be expensive, so they won't redub the old seasons.
It's also worth pointing out that the money Adult Swim and WB likely make off Rick and Morty VASTLY outweighs the amount in royalties that they have to pay to Roiland. It's more cost effective to keep on milking the cash cow than it is to cancel the show purely to spite Roiland out of royalties. Paying him compensation for reruns of old episodes is peanuts compared to the cash that comes in through merch, ratings and brand deals.
The point isn't about the money they lose, but the fact they're still financing an abuser, there's no reason to let him go other than PR
This. WBD and Adult Swim don't give a shit about Roiland's behavior over the years. They just don't want to look bad by still having him employed. If they COULD get away with keeping him on the show somehow, they would.
Sickanimation
won't be revealed till the first episode airs
The fact that they've held out revealing it for this long means they know it's bad, so it must be really really bad. Like Simpsons recasting nonwhite characters level bad.
It's 4D chess, anon. They know that everyone--both fans and haters alike--will want to tune in and hear the voices for themselves. Maybe they're a little scared, but this is mostly an intentional publicity stunt.
Only works for one season though.
No, it's just good marketing. Kind of fell off Rick and Morty and I'm tempted to tune in just to hear the voices.
When'd you drop it?
I think I only watched the first episode of last season. I didn't start hating it or anything, just didn't care enough to keep up with it I guess. Might catch up at some point.
Well you've got time. Season 6 was kinda fun, feels like they're somewhat getting back into the groove of things
grass tastes bad
At this rate it wouldn't surprise me if you don't find out until the first episode is released. I'm sure they are going to take advantage of all the hype behind the new "voices" just to increase the ratings and the buzz around this new season.
Lol that's exactly what they're doing. When have they ever used Beth and Summer in a meta promo?
>Lol
I haven't watched the promos I can honestly careless about the whole thing.
>When have they ever used Beth and Summer in a meta promo?
Just this once: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XmrKFeCYKw
It could be that, instead of mentioning it once and moving past it like in Solar Opposites, they'll try to lean into it, and make a joke out of how jarring the change is. Maybe they'll use already-famous people with distinctive voices, like John Malkovich and the kid with no teeth from Stranger Things.
Maybe they do something tacky, like having different guest voices in each episode. It might be funny if they still had the same actor play both characters.
Tracey Morgan and Kristen Schaal
me and you