They were his cargo he was transporting in stasis and one got out. There's a whole planet it had to run off and hide on. They said it looked like it occurred thousands of years ago so the creature that came out is long dead
Looks like it crash landed after the navigator got fricked. I assume everyone ran off the ship trying to run away, so I guess it and the crew are scattered somewhere on the surface.
At first the xenomorph plopped out of the space jockey and thought "frick yeah, time to frick shit up", but then it realized it has no legs. It crawled away in shame and now lives a secluded, pacifist life in a cave somewhere.
>ywn be a space jockey melded to a chair whose entire life is to swivel your giant penis gun around in a circle, line it up with a particular veganal orifice on the wall, and jerk off until you cum squirting your alien goop into that hole, which gives instructions to the ship on what to do
>Top: Sleek futuristic metal armor, generic looking humanoid inside, pointless baby elephant mask, needlessly big armchair >Bottom: Equally horrifying and intriguing creature, no idea where body ends and machine begins, grotesque physiology possibly artificially bred, permanently fused to life-support chair, sole purpose in life is to carry out its mysterious mission delivering abomination eggs.
Prometheus killed the soul man
He was an Engineer. In the scene the captain says 'it's gown out of its chair' as if it was smaller in its original form. Just before they go look at the acid hole in the floor, the captain takes one more look at the face with his light, and you can clearly see a face within a face (helmet). You can see part of the cheeck bone & eye socket, but its face was also displaced a little distance from the interior of the helmet. The wienerpit in Prometheus was the exact same size, but the body isn't, which is why the captain's line of it outgrowing its chair is important.
>'it's gown out of its chair' as if it was smaller in its original form
That's not what it means lol. He's saying it grew from its chair as if it was specifically grown to pilot the ship. Why on earth would it randomly keep growing? And if it did, why would its arms still be the perfect length to grip the controls (they are still holding on in the original scene).
>In the scene the captain says 'it's gown out of its chair' as if it was smaller in its original form
Huh. I never caught that before, but you're right.
legend has it that during WW2, kamikaze pilots were welded into their planes so they could not back out or surrender.
my autistic headcanon is that the jockey in Alien was a kamikaze pilot intended to deliver the eggs to a planet, and they use black goo to fuse him into the chair so he can't pussy out.
I prefer the idea that the Engineers just bred all those creatures and fused them to their cuck chairs. It's funny because they definitely had the technology to use computers, but they instead chose to invent a race whose sole purpose is to pilot their giant doughnut ships. Engineers were Chads.
>It's funny because they definitely had the technology to use computers, but they instead chose to invent a race whose sole purpose is to pilot their giant doughnut ships.
my autistic headcanon is that they refused to create AI, specifically to avoid the problems we see happening with David / Walter, so all their computers were relatively primitive, compared to the rest of their technology
God, that must have been so fricking cool for Giger. Imagine making art for so long, occasionally a couple of sculptures, and one day some big-shot says, "Yeah, we're going to make an entire fricking building out of your imagination," and then walking through it. It's hard to even imagine. I'm sure 90% of it was just work, but the last 10%, when it was all done and ready for filming, must have been surreal to really take in.
I can't believe how bad Prometheus and Covenant were, man.
If only they were just bad movies. I could live with that. But destroying any sort of mystery this franchise had was the worst thing these movies did.
I really did love all the mystery with alien and the creature and space jockey/ ship.
It was really fun coming up with theories and sharing them and hearing what people thought.
I’ve been an alien fan for a long time and prometheus and covenant were pretty films but very disappointing.
ye
alien worked well because there's this thing from this other thing and both look totally alien to the point where we can't tell what is organic and what is mechanical and artificial
then aliens come along and it's just hurr durr they are just bugs lol but at least we still don't know what the engineer was
then prometh/covenant come out and it's just, "lol it was just a dude in a suit"
i feel like the only person that didn't like aliens. turning such a mysterious and fascinating universe into an action flick killed the mystique for me. the characters are also awful
This
This modern need to explain everything away leaves little room for mystery and the imagination of the viewer. Mystery and imagination are powerful components for good storytelling and modern Hollywood just doesn't seem to get that,
He is much more larger than the engineer in prometheus, which would make him a different cast from prometheus cast or the covenant cast.
From this you could extrapolate a film..
David has left at the end of the events of covenant with a ship, Engineers have been alerted to his "crimes" and a warship has been sent with warcast onboard.
Predators have caugh the scent of the hunt a worthy oppentant, a warcast is rarely seen outside of engineer space.
The company has sent a team of synths to recover david and any all materials related to aliens along with a mr. weyland type synth.
the newly formed marine corps have been sent to findout what happen to the ship and are on their way.
The planet david went to now has his ship abondon with colonist and proto-aliens around the wreckage and surrounding area while david has left to find a church within a dense jungle with the design plans of the alien king.
>Ridley Scott didn't put a fraction of a thought into it
As much as we love to try to figure this all out like it's some well planned mystery to solve from strategic clues, the sad truth is that none of these creators think much past "wouldn't it look cool if..." and drop canon bombs any chance they get. I hate to admit it because I used to love trying to unravel the lore of my favorite franchises, but I've come to the realization the creators are just much more shallow than we wish they were.
Literally the only exception to this that I've found is in written works. But anything TV or film based? Shallow hacks led by "rule of cool" mentality. I just hate how flippantly they disregard even their own work, making it up as they go along like 5 year olds on the playground. "Oooh, now the ground is lava!" and all that
>Ridley Scott didn't put a fraction of a thought into it
As much as we love to try to figure this all out like it's some well planned mystery to solve from strategic clues, the sad truth is that none of these creators think much past "wouldn't it look cool if..." and drop canon bombs any chance they get. I hate to admit it because I used to love trying to unravel the lore of my favorite franchises, but I've come to the realization the creators are just much more shallow than we wish they were.
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This guy gets it.
You guys need to think about it more realistically. The reason film franchises are always disappointing like this compared to books is the expense involved to actually make a film. A good consistent story costs nothing for, say, Tolkien to author except for time and living costs. If one man can has the time and energy, he can execute a vision
In film this is impossible. You need a LOT of money, You need cooporation of the director, writers, cast, crew and a studio willing to humour you and fund it. That is just for ONE film. For a franchise like the Alien universe you have to deal with actors getting old and dying, becoming uninterested or unavailable, the financial position of studios and producers, disagreement about length, story, etc in each film that will change many elements and make it wildly inconsistent even if you do everything perfectly. There is no vision to execute, there's a vague idea that gets somewhat halfway there according to what's economical and convenient at the time
And no you can't just "stop making sequels" when a studio needs income and owns the IP, and the fact that people saying no more sequels WILL go to the kinoplex to see the next movie despite what they say on Cinemaphile
>create one of the most unique and fascinating alien designs of all time >"lol nvm it was a mask and he's actually just an albino dude"
what the frick is wrong with ridley scott, jesus christ
>get told by writer of the original story and screenwriter that Deckart is not a replicant >whole point of the story is the disolving boundries between advanced artificial and organic life >lalala can't hear you he is a replicant
Ridley knows how to shoot a movie but he is a brainlet
>create one of the most iconic Aliens of all time >uhm ackschually it's not some kind of dark space mystery, but a species bio-engineered by some rogue android with a god complex
>create one of the most iconic Aliens of all time >uhm ackschually it's not some kind of dark space mystery, but a species bio-engineered by some rogue android with a god complex
happens when audience evolves into "LET ME KNOW EVERYTHING I MUST CONSOOM" robots instead of being able to actually process art
Covenant fell apart in the first 10ish minutes already
>have the mission to deliver settlers to a specific planet >wake up from cryosleep because of an emergency >"yeah we're delivering thousands of settlers to this planet instead because it's closer and I don't wanna go back into cryosleep" >"i'm sure they'll understand once we wake them up and tell them"
breh that's not the decision of the fricking crew lmao
It's so unbelievably stupid. Who the FRICK writes this shit?
I've never seen alien or Prometheus or any of these movies but the world they're set in seems interesting yet I suspect that it's all superficial "mystery box" shit with no real substance. Am I wrong? Should I get into these movies?
the engineer (space jockey)
I think the Alien series sucks
I never noticed that hole in his chest before.
you're joking right?
They specifically point it out and talk about it IN the movie!
That was the creepiest part of that setpiece, and they pointed it out. wtf anon
>these people vote and decide policy
check dubs
Lol yo holy shit so he got facehugged??? I never noticed that either. Where is the alien that came out of him? Is that what laid all those eggs?
They were his cargo he was transporting in stasis and one got out. There's a whole planet it had to run off and hide on. They said it looked like it occurred thousands of years ago so the creature that came out is long dead
That makes sense but why the frick he hauling those eggs???
There's a girl who has to eat all the eggs
You've slain me with your wit
the same reason weyland yutani wants eggs? Biomedical research to make frickin bank with
Easter was coming up
late night uber eats intergalactic delivery
Bro, Dallas puts his hand INSIDE the hole in the movie.
That means you aren't a porn addict. Those other anons only saw the hole because they want to frick it
A big guy
for you
Better question: Where is the 20ft+ xenomorph goliath that should've come out of that big fella?
Eh probably went off and died somewhere
>I have awoken on a desolate planet, I must go off and die
Based XenoChad
Looks like it crash landed after the navigator got fricked. I assume everyone ran off the ship trying to run away, so I guess it and the crew are scattered somewhere on the surface.
At first the xenomorph plopped out of the space jockey and thought "frick yeah, time to frick shit up", but then it realized it has no legs. It crawled away in shame and now lives a secluded, pacifist life in a cave somewhere.
>legless xeno living in seclusion searching for meaning and finding himself
fund this kino
What’s the elephant thing it’s very scary
It was in the first Prometheus script, there's more art of it.
Ridley will just retcon it as the yuge Engineer birthing a queen after David fricks it up midway in the movie.
>be me
>peek at space babes with my telescope
>alien pops through my chest
>ywn be a space jockey melded to a chair whose entire life is to swivel your giant penis gun around in a circle, line it up with a particular veganal orifice on the wall, and jerk off until you cum squirting your alien goop into that hole, which gives instructions to the ship on what to do
is this canon? I thought a flute was involved
Yep, it's canon alright.
Giger was truly an artistic genius
At least he didn't go blind.
> is that an alien in your pants or are you just happy to see me
HELLO MY BABY
>alien bursts from chest
>sees boner burst out of pants
>bonds
>just chillin atm, u?
he was ALIEN
>Top: Sleek futuristic metal armor, generic looking humanoid inside, pointless baby elephant mask, needlessly big armchair
>Bottom: Equally horrifying and intriguing creature, no idea where body ends and machine begins, grotesque physiology possibly artificially bred, permanently fused to life-support chair, sole purpose in life is to carry out its mysterious mission delivering abomination eggs.
Prometheus killed the soul man
>he
that's a them anon
He was an Engineer. In the scene the captain says 'it's gown out of its chair' as if it was smaller in its original form. Just before they go look at the acid hole in the floor, the captain takes one more look at the face with his light, and you can clearly see a face within a face (helmet). You can see part of the cheeck bone & eye socket, but its face was also displaced a little distance from the interior of the helmet. The wienerpit in Prometheus was the exact same size, but the body isn't, which is why the captain's line of it outgrowing its chair is important.
>'it's gown out of its chair' as if it was smaller in its original form
That's not what it means lol. He's saying it grew from its chair as if it was specifically grown to pilot the ship. Why on earth would it randomly keep growing? And if it did, why would its arms still be the perfect length to grip the controls (they are still holding on in the original scene).
>In the scene the captain says 'it's gown out of its chair' as if it was smaller in its original form
Huh. I never caught that before, but you're right.
how do they poop?
>poop out their mouth
okay then how do they eat?
thats what im saying. they dont have butt holes
legend has it that during WW2, kamikaze pilots were welded into their planes so they could not back out or surrender.
my autistic headcanon is that the jockey in Alien was a kamikaze pilot intended to deliver the eggs to a planet, and they use black goo to fuse him into the chair so he can't pussy out.
I prefer the idea that the Engineers just bred all those creatures and fused them to their cuck chairs. It's funny because they definitely had the technology to use computers, but they instead chose to invent a race whose sole purpose is to pilot their giant doughnut ships. Engineers were Chads.
>It's funny because they definitely had the technology to use computers, but they instead chose to invent a race whose sole purpose is to pilot their giant doughnut ships.
my autistic headcanon is that they refused to create AI, specifically to avoid the problems we see happening with David / Walter, so all their computers were relatively primitive, compared to the rest of their technology
I’m a very big alien nerd and I like this head canon anon.
>telekinetic comms enhancer
The ones the 'Engineers' served.
>tfw the astronauts are played by children
john alien
>the manlet 5'11" human
>the chad 6'0" engineer
jej
I smell a rat
That's your lunch, anon.
Alien biomechanical creature fused to his ship
stupidest frickin thing ive ever seen in my life
you don't own a mirror?
your reddit gold for that epic pwn sir
i miss when space jockey was PROOOH man
They could be telepathic aliens that worship the xenomorphs
Just like Star Wars. The secondary material is shit fanfiction
They explain who he is in Prometheus and Covenant (they don't explain).
God, that must have been so fricking cool for Giger. Imagine making art for so long, occasionally a couple of sculptures, and one day some big-shot says, "Yeah, we're going to make an entire fricking building out of your imagination," and then walking through it. It's hard to even imagine. I'm sure 90% of it was just work, but the last 10%, when it was all done and ready for filming, must have been surreal to really take in.
They say in the movie
Ed Jeneer
>foreverially braphogged and all tied up
>moisturised, unbothered, in my chair, cooming for all eternity
That's obviously the thing's face.
Who did Ridley Scott think he's fooling pretending it's a helmet?
He was either a super interesting bio-engineered alien pilot, or a super boring guy in a suit.
a space cowboy
The pilot. Duh
Literally me
He's a pseudo-human grown by the ship to act as a navigator.
sauce?
My ass
He's the cook
He was you and me, all in one!
turret gunner
I can't believe how bad Prometheus and Covenant were, man.
If only they were just bad movies. I could live with that. But destroying any sort of mystery this franchise had was the worst thing these movies did.
after prometheus I never bothered with Covenant
I watched Covenant because I thought they couldn't do any worse than Prometheus. Boy was I wrong.
I really did love all the mystery with alien and the creature and space jockey/ ship.
It was really fun coming up with theories and sharing them and hearing what people thought.
I’ve been an alien fan for a long time and prometheus and covenant were pretty films but very disappointing.
ye
alien worked well because there's this thing from this other thing and both look totally alien to the point where we can't tell what is organic and what is mechanical and artificial
then aliens come along and it's just hurr durr they are just bugs lol but at least we still don't know what the engineer was
then prometh/covenant come out and it's just, "lol it was just a dude in a suit"
Should just have stopped with Aliens.
i feel like the only person that didn't like aliens. turning such a mysterious and fascinating universe into an action flick killed the mystique for me. the characters are also awful
I just see Alien and Aliens as their own things and don't care about the rest of the films or even the universe.
This
This modern need to explain everything away leaves little room for mystery and the imagination of the viewer. Mystery and imagination are powerful components for good storytelling and modern Hollywood just doesn't seem to get that,
My theory is he's the war cast of engineer.
He is much more larger than the engineer in prometheus, which would make him a different cast from prometheus cast or the covenant cast.
From this you could extrapolate a film..
David has left at the end of the events of covenant with a ship, Engineers have been alerted to his "crimes" and a warship has been sent with warcast onboard.
Predators have caugh the scent of the hunt a worthy oppentant, a warcast is rarely seen outside of engineer space.
The company has sent a team of synths to recover david and any all materials related to aliens along with a mr. weyland type synth.
the newly formed marine corps have been sent to findout what happen to the ship and are on their way.
The planet david went to now has his ship abondon with colonist and proto-aliens around the wreckage and surrounding area while david has left to find a church within a dense jungle with the design plans of the alien king.
Oh yeah? Well my theory is that Ridley Scott didn't put a fraction of a thought into it
Studio wants aliens 2, Studio needs to put their money where their mouth is get the director and team that made aliens.
>Ridley Scott didn't put a fraction of a thought into it
As much as we love to try to figure this all out like it's some well planned mystery to solve from strategic clues, the sad truth is that none of these creators think much past "wouldn't it look cool if..." and drop canon bombs any chance they get. I hate to admit it because I used to love trying to unravel the lore of my favorite franchises, but I've come to the realization the creators are just much more shallow than we wish they were.
read
moar
tolkien
Literally the only exception to this that I've found is in written works. But anything TV or film based? Shallow hacks led by "rule of cool" mentality. I just hate how flippantly they disregard even their own work, making it up as they go along like 5 year olds on the playground. "Oooh, now the ground is lava!" and all that
This guy gets it.
>500+ pieces of making up lore afterwards
>well planned
lol
You guys need to think about it more realistically. The reason film franchises are always disappointing like this compared to books is the expense involved to actually make a film. A good consistent story costs nothing for, say, Tolkien to author except for time and living costs. If one man can has the time and energy, he can execute a vision
In film this is impossible. You need a LOT of money, You need cooporation of the director, writers, cast, crew and a studio willing to humour you and fund it. That is just for ONE film. For a franchise like the Alien universe you have to deal with actors getting old and dying, becoming uninterested or unavailable, the financial position of studios and producers, disagreement about length, story, etc in each film that will change many elements and make it wildly inconsistent even if you do everything perfectly. There is no vision to execute, there's a vague idea that gets somewhat halfway there according to what's economical and convenient at the time
And no you can't just "stop making sequels" when a studio needs income and owns the IP, and the fact that people saying no more sequels WILL go to the kinoplex to see the next movie despite what they say on Cinemaphile
Frick Prometheus and frick Covenant. Ridley Scott tried destroying a viable franchise with his senility.
They’re NOT canon.
I don’t love it but it’s honestly better than what ridley would have done unfortunately.
Turned out to be a literal roidraging jock. Ridley’s a fricking hack
This will be the final nail in the coffin for the franchise.
I don't like how this franchise developed. Prometheus was a good idea, but really badly done.
you have to eat all of them
who cares
Scott is a moron
PRÖÖÖÖÖH
>create one of the most unique and fascinating alien designs of all time
>"lol nvm it was a mask and he's actually just an albino dude"
what the frick is wrong with ridley scott, jesus christ
>get told by writer of the original story and screenwriter that Deckart is not a replicant
>whole point of the story is the disolving boundries between advanced artificial and organic life
>lalala can't hear you he is a replicant
Ridley knows how to shoot a movie but he is a brainlet
>create one of the most iconic Aliens of all time
>uhm ackschually it's not some kind of dark space mystery, but a species bio-engineered by some rogue android with a god complex
happens when audience evolves into "LET ME KNOW EVERYTHING I MUST CONSOOM" robots instead of being able to actually process art
Nerds ruin everything with their "ahhh I must edit the fandom wiki article, what is le hecking canon?
Same thing happened to Star Wars
Covenant fell apart in the first 10ish minutes already
>have the mission to deliver settlers to a specific planet
>wake up from cryosleep because of an emergency
>"yeah we're delivering thousands of settlers to this planet instead because it's closer and I don't wanna go back into cryosleep"
>"i'm sure they'll understand once we wake them up and tell them"
breh that's not the decision of the fricking crew lmao
It's so unbelievably stupid. Who the FRICK writes this shit?
Xeno penis man aka Geigerian.
I've never seen alien or Prometheus or any of these movies but the world they're set in seems interesting yet I suspect that it's all superficial "mystery box" shit with no real substance. Am I wrong? Should I get into these movies?
alien was never good