being stabbed or slashed with a red blade seems to be worse than being stabbed or slashed with any other color if you're not Dark Side
Obi-Wan and Anakin both go down to Dooku's blade pretty easy - yes Anakin loses a hand but so does Dooku in the next movie to a blue saber and he's not writhing on the floor in pain or anything, he's awake and alert; Windu loses a hand and he's all "frick this hurts" but he has to be lightning-shoved out of the window (and you can bet they looked for and found his body right away), but that was from a blue blade; the other three Jedi who went with him to arrest Palpatine all went down and stayed down with a single slash or stab from a red blade
If you were killed and fell out of sight in Star Wars, some hack a generation later will decide you didn't die after all, and erase any meaning your death once had.
It doesn't affect the meaning of Anakin giving in to his darker impulses, but it's less impactful that he went apeshit on her and she wound up surviving anyway.
Sure, I'm just tired of people thinking every character death moment is about the character who died when sometimes they barely mater compared to the one doing the killing.
The reason people think TROS is moronic for such a plot point is because:
1. There was no indication in the previous two movies that Palpatine was still alive. For all intents and purposes, it seemed that Snoke was a character in his own right, not a decoy avatar puppet.
2. The way Palpatine died was him falling down a bottomless pit, exploding while falling, the space station he was on exploding shortly thereafter and (as established by TROS itself) the pieces fell into an ocean. Even the other Force Wielders in the series died from far less.
3. The movie itself should at the very least have explained how he survived all that shit (like him having access to Operation Phoenix tech from Rick and Morty or making a Force Bubble around him at the last second or some shit), instead they just vaguely reference the scene where he told Anakin about Plagueis and that he knew about cloning, which doesn't really explain anything.
4. As the rotten cherry on the shit sundae, the movie has the gall to let us think he died for good this time, despite already just expecting us to believe he survived an extreme scenario.
That and... Well, the movie is fricking shit in every other way. It retcons plot points from the immediate predecessor, pretends the character dynamics were something completely different from what we saw, pulls the "Plan 9 starring Lugosi" bullshit with Carrie Fisher, has extremely obvious reshoots, plotlines were clearly removed from the product and one of the major villains becomes a good guy because he pretended that his dead father forgave him.
It is quite possibly the absolute nadir of all the theatrical releases in the franchise, which is really saying something because those include awful movies like Phantom Menace, The Last Jedi, Solo and the Clone Wars pilot.
>1. There was no indication in the previous two movies that Palpatine was still alive.
Dark Empire, 1992
>2. The way Palpatine died was him falling down a bottomless pit, exploding while falling, the space station he was on exploding shortly thereafter
Dark Empire, 1992
>3. The movie itself should at the very least have explained how he survived all that shit (like him having access to Operation Phoenix tech from Rick and Morty or making a Force Bubble around him at the last second or some shit)
Dark Empire, 1992 actually did do this but didn't really explain why/how he came back either, just established that he did and then iirc had him kidnap Luke from across the galaxy with "the Force", which makes even less sense because if he could do that all along why did he send Vader out hunting for Luke? and if he couldn't do it then how did he learn it?
>4.
No, this is the one thing that you can't argue TROS did wrong. It's very, very clear from the context that Palpatine is dead for good this time, you actually see him die on-screen after he spent a very long time explaining that he needs her power to live. Then she dies at the same time he does and Ben Solo conveniently brings her back to life using the snake-healing power that only they know and she demonstrated earlier because they're a dyad in the force.
Unlike Dark Empire, 1992, which left it open for endless sequels and was probably going to result in more surprise gotcha returns before LucasFilm got sold and Dark Horse lost the franchise.
she was already written to survive in the republic comics due to it and 03 clone wars being part of the CWMMP, so theres no "somehow" about it
also ventress best girl
Implying people care about that and don't just want to shit on TCW is funny.
So falling into giant pits have never meant anything in this franchise even then lmao
every single soul who worked in star wars in a hack, even the good entries, that's how it works
Pretty much
In retrospect Qui-gon is a real glass jaw
being stabbed or slashed with a red blade seems to be worse than being stabbed or slashed with any other color if you're not Dark Side
Obi-Wan and Anakin both go down to Dooku's blade pretty easy - yes Anakin loses a hand but so does Dooku in the next movie to a blue saber and he's not writhing on the floor in pain or anything, he's awake and alert; Windu loses a hand and he's all "frick this hurts" but he has to be lightning-shoved out of the window (and you can bet they looked for and found his body right away), but that was from a blue blade; the other three Jedi who went with him to arrest Palpatine all went down and stayed down with a single slash or stab from a red blade
in this essay I will
Force users can make things float enough to always jump back. It seems like a temporary setback and a way to end the fight without killing each other.
Tanked that
> Genndy is hack
No ones every really gone.
Falls from great heights never seem to be a problem for force users.
If you were killed and fell out of sight in Star Wars, some hack a generation later will decide you didn't die after all, and erase any meaning your death once had.
Isn't that nice?
Who wasn't somehow returned from a fall so far? I know Mace Windu and Tech.
>a generation later
is 9 years a generation? that's how long it took for Palpatine to come back originally
frick it took Vader like eight minutes before he popped up as a ghost
Ventless surviving doesn't in anyway affect the meaning of the scene you fricking idiot.
of course I'm not pissed like with Palpatine but it's still stupid
It doesn't affect the meaning of Anakin giving in to his darker impulses, but it's less impactful that he went apeshit on her and she wound up surviving anyway.
Sure, I'm just tired of people thinking every character death moment is about the character who died when sometimes they barely mater compared to the one doing the killing.
>you fricking idiot
Someone needs to calm down.
Here's a shitty delivery I got like a dozen years ago or something. Maybe this will help.
Forget that fall, what about his fall?
The issue isn't even the fall, it's being chopped in half.
it was definitively established in 1993 that one can simply be too angry to die
The reason people think TROS is moronic for such a plot point is because:
1. There was no indication in the previous two movies that Palpatine was still alive. For all intents and purposes, it seemed that Snoke was a character in his own right, not a decoy avatar puppet.
2. The way Palpatine died was him falling down a bottomless pit, exploding while falling, the space station he was on exploding shortly thereafter and (as established by TROS itself) the pieces fell into an ocean. Even the other Force Wielders in the series died from far less.
3. The movie itself should at the very least have explained how he survived all that shit (like him having access to Operation Phoenix tech from Rick and Morty or making a Force Bubble around him at the last second or some shit), instead they just vaguely reference the scene where he told Anakin about Plagueis and that he knew about cloning, which doesn't really explain anything.
4. As the rotten cherry on the shit sundae, the movie has the gall to let us think he died for good this time, despite already just expecting us to believe he survived an extreme scenario.
That and... Well, the movie is fricking shit in every other way. It retcons plot points from the immediate predecessor, pretends the character dynamics were something completely different from what we saw, pulls the "Plan 9 starring Lugosi" bullshit with Carrie Fisher, has extremely obvious reshoots, plotlines were clearly removed from the product and one of the major villains becomes a good guy because he pretended that his dead father forgave him.
It is quite possibly the absolute nadir of all the theatrical releases in the franchise, which is really saying something because those include awful movies like Phantom Menace, The Last Jedi, Solo and the Clone Wars pilot.
>1. There was no indication in the previous two movies that Palpatine was still alive.
Dark Empire, 1992
>2. The way Palpatine died was him falling down a bottomless pit, exploding while falling, the space station he was on exploding shortly thereafter
Dark Empire, 1992
>3. The movie itself should at the very least have explained how he survived all that shit (like him having access to Operation Phoenix tech from Rick and Morty or making a Force Bubble around him at the last second or some shit)
Dark Empire, 1992 actually did do this but didn't really explain why/how he came back either, just established that he did and then iirc had him kidnap Luke from across the galaxy with "the Force", which makes even less sense because if he could do that all along why did he send Vader out hunting for Luke? and if he couldn't do it then how did he learn it?
>4.
No, this is the one thing that you can't argue TROS did wrong. It's very, very clear from the context that Palpatine is dead for good this time, you actually see him die on-screen after he spent a very long time explaining that he needs her power to live. Then she dies at the same time he does and Ben Solo conveniently brings her back to life using the snake-healing power that only they know and she demonstrated earlier because they're a dyad in the force.
Unlike Dark Empire, 1992, which left it open for endless sequels and was probably going to result in more surprise gotcha returns before LucasFilm got sold and Dark Horse lost the franchise.
Member is canon the ventures craved jedi wiener so much she turned good after finally getting it
Only to Goysney Wars
>Somehow, Maul returned
>Somehow, Ventress returned
>Somehow, Boba Fett returned
>Somehow, Palpatine returned
Maybe the good guys need to stop trying to kill people with falls.
Yeah seriously, blow them up or chop them up.
I thought this was non canon now?
>caring about what a corporatoin says it's canon
Lucas said it doever8.
>petty sellout manlet said so