>1st Episode Date: January 10th,1999
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>1st Episode Date: January 10th,1999
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I was on 90s internet but not Cinemaphile bbs or chatrooms. I wonder what they memed back in the day .
>was on 90s internet
why are you still here?
Cinemaphile has a flavor of old internet. Did you think you could leave?
There are some google comment sections from god knows where that had active community chat during the 1990s
the only people who had hbo back then were upper middle class people
You're dumb as a brick.
There's been an interesting shift in attitude towards the age of internet users. If you outed yourself as a kid online back in the 90s and early 00s you'd be run out of your community like a leper. Now the internet is just a virtual playground and you're the weirdo for hanging around it in your 30s.
People just hate you regardless of the times
I found a thread from back in like 2002 that had some interesting speculation on certain characters, I’ll try to find it again.
Here it is:
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/sopranos-season-4-review-and-discussion-thread-shows-1-12.97503/
>So what about my Allen Stewart shirt from that meeting? Ralph Cifaretto spilled my coffee and ruined it.
>stand up guys like that, they're a dying breed
good show, ayy
Did he really deserve what he got for punching Janice? I felt he should've been given a medal
>Did he really deserve what he got for punching Janice?
Better question: how would Tony mange to convince Janice to killing Richie if he didn't get killed by Jaince (who literally wanted Tony dead at this point in the show)?
>how would Tony mange to convince Janice to killing Richie if he didn't get killed by Jaince (who literally wanted Tony dead at this point in the show)?
what? I felt I had a stroke reading this
Tony would have got some black guys to kill Ritchie.
Oh yeah, those guys.
Not a better question actually
it was always strange to me how open family was to killing each other in this show.
Janice probably could have kicked his ass instead of shooting him.
Would've been an unfair fight. He did beat the shit out of Rocco Dimeo and took his jaaaacket afterall
I actually felt bad about the whole jacket debacle. It’s clearly shown that Ritchie gives the jacket as a cherished gift of respect, but Tony sees it as a soft flex. Such a big misunderstanding
>soft flex
Aside from the ebonics, wtf does that mean? How was that a "flex fr fr my homie ong doe"?
The term “flex” as I used it was around long before modern zoomer talk.
Sorry, meant to add that Tony took it as a flex due to the way Ritchie referred to the act of taking it. He was essentially gifting him a war trophy he took off “the toughest man’s in Essex County” with the implication that he beat him into hiding
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>you bring the heads of conquered kings to my door
Does it make sense now? It’s shown that wasn’t Ritchie’s intention, but Tony felt that vibe
>but Tony felt that vibe
No, he didn't. He didn't give a frick about Richie's old glories. The jacket meant nothing to Tony at that point, maybe 20 years ago it would have but Tony and rhe rest of the world had moved on and Richie hadn't. Richie was living in the past and couldn't reconcile that with the reality he found himself in when he got out of jail. The jacket was a genuine peace offering, but it might as well have been a pair of socks in Tony's mind.
Plus the jacket was ugly as frick, who would wear that
Yeah, that's part of the world moving on, back in the day it would have been fashionable and expensive but not anymore
The polish guy he gives the jacket to is my dad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsw8wv44e7E
They were going to give my dad a story arch for a few episodes, but the actress who played the maid had a health condition, and they were both replaced on the show with another maid and another boyfriend. I need to get around to actually watching this series, never seen it myself.
i always wondered what happened to Tony's maid
my favorite part about this little interaction is Richie saying “he never showed his face in jersey after I was through with him” but I felt like the story implies Richie just grabbed it while the guy was away
??? the story clearly states that Richie kicked Rocco Dimeo's ass and got his jacket as a trophy
Richie was full of crap. He probably borrowed the jacket then Rocco got whacked by some other wiseguy and became part of a building foundation. You don’t just kick some guy’s ass and he leaves town forever, especially if his last name is the same as the crime family
Sopranos is just poorly written.
idk if Richie was full of shit, he DID back off Beansie
He later died of Alzheimer’s
Janice is by far the most punchable character, but his death was inevitable either way.
I never liked how they repeated this plot so many times:
>old member of the crew returns out of the blue
>...but he's an entitled, moronic butthole who ruins everything
>forced to go away again permanently
If they had kept Richie around for an extra season just to interact with Ralph, then have season 3 become season 4, the show would've been saved
>the show would've been saved
The most highly respected tv show of all time didn't need saving
Both Sopranos and Breaking Bad suffered Monster of the Season instead of Monster of the Week.
who was the monster of the season for breaking bad season 2?
Tuco
the guy who dies two episodes in?
Maybe the real monster was the kid who shot the fat frick drug dealer
maybe the real monster of every season is Walt's colossal ego and Jesse's colossal stupidity.
>walt's massive ego
You need to go back
Breaking Bad really is goofy and overrated from people who were starved for the next great tv series after the sopranos.
Walt's ego on its own isn't bad, which is why Gus strokes it to get him onboard. It's only due to Jesse fricking up that Walt has to turn against Fring, hence why both Walt's ego and Jesse's stupidity cause most of the show's problem. Hell, Jesse only has a bone to pick with Gus in the first place because Walt's ego acted up and made him force Jesse to sell in Gus's territory, leading to Combo beating shot by that kid.
There wasn't one. That's why it was the last good season.
This is literally how the mafia works and it’s a mafia show, what do you want?
>His first episode he calls out Chris for hitting his niece Adriana, says unless he marries her he has no right to do that and if he does it again he implies he will kill Chris
>Gets killed by a woman hes engaged to, but not married, after he hits her
poetry.
Also Janice was just a stupid moron. She was an aging liberal b***h who knew her time was up and saw a way back into the life she ran away from by marrying a rich gangster, but she thought she could still be a mouthy feminist and actually told her psycho thug fiance that his son is probably gay and he should be proud of it in a fit of rage. She actually got lucky he only hit her once.
>liberal woman fricks the most abusive man to elevate her status
Many such cases!
Thanks for that story I also watched the show
Sorry, I forgot these threads were only about quoting the same lines to each other forever and ever.
I think Tony was planning to off him anyways. He was more trouble than what he was earning and kept barked back too many times.
Of course he did, he hadn’t given her his last name. She was still a Soprano and not yet an Aprile, he had no right to put his hands on her at that point.
probably the most unhinged moron on the entire show
Paulie takes the crown for that one
FRICKIN QUEERS
*QUEEAHS
He wasn't a moron, he was a man out of time.
David Chase must've been referencing another one of his works
Richie was pissed because he went to the can over this thing of theirs and by the time he got out, everything had went to shit, the new generation didn't care about principles, and he didn't get celebrated for doing his time, either. Any chance he had of falling back into a good earning position died with his brother before he got out.
Though all he really had to do was bide his time, as Tony might've been able to set him up because he was sentimental about Jackie, but he repeatedly made all sorts of moronic decisions and burned bridges with the wrong people (Tony, Junior, Sil, Paulie, Chrissy, Albert)
Rewatching it now and the comfyness starts to fade with season 3. All the real sadistic and evil shit starts happening then. Ralphie introduces a real morbid darkness into the series with his entry.
Janice busted his crust, most kino scene in the series imo
Season 1-3 were my favorite. Season 5 came close. 4 and 6 were abysmal
>4 and 6 were abysmal
>4 and 6 were abysmal
Ohhh!
I don't wanna hear it but Season 4 was a slog to get through
Wrong
Very similar to Mad Men. At some point the fun goes away and never comes back.
>4 and 6 were abysmal
>4 and 6 were abysmal
Charles Schwab over here
No one wants to comment on what made season 4 so great huh? Not one fricking peep
One word: Ralph
Ralph was a highlight in season 3 not 4
>no show
>pie o my
>the weight
>whoever did this
>whitecaps
anyone can list off episode titles. Whats your point?
I DADUNT
the pivotal season in the series where the rift between NY and NJ is formed, Adriana gets flipped, Tony loses hope in Christopher, Carmela leaves Tony
Filtered
>Dude Ralphie is le funny and edgy haha xD!
Literally Marvel slop tier take.
>dude
>le
>edgy
>haha xD!
>slop
Dumb frick zoomer. You were filtered. Ralph was a piece of shit but he was as fully realised and 3 dimensional as the rest of the characters.
To be fair, he's the only character who could quote the entire Gladiator film.
And Spartacus (Although they didn't have flat tops in Ancient Rome)
>Ralph was a piece of shit but he was as fully realised and 3 dimensional as the rest of the characters.
No shit, but tryhard morons harp on him as the best character because hes the most sadistic and fricked up character. We get it, youre an edgy Cinemaphile guy who finds his psychotic antics funny. My point still stands that his introduction brings a level of darkness into the series that wasnt there in the first two seasons.
Aside from beating up a pregnant hoah to death he doesn't do much of "le evil". Just throws snide comments now and then. Unless you got mad about the horse (but still eat meat by the truckload)
>murdering his pregnant side girl in a fit of rage
>after he laughed at abusing her and watching her be abused
>Beats up a guy for no reason other than to get Jackie to like him
>After pushing Jackie into the mob life, wants him to get killed, and doesnt give a shit about the grief of his mother, who hes dating
>his superficial charm he can turn on in polite company
>making snide remarks after Vitos brother is in a coma and they are all distressed
Hes clearly the most evil and psychopathic character.
Tony was pushing for Jackie Jr to die. I didn't get it during my first watch but when he's discussing the situation with Ralph who wants to give Jackie a pass and Tony says basically, "Who cares what people say that they don't have the balls to say to your face." There was no way the hit wasn't happening after that line of dialogue because Tony implied that Ralph would lose control of his crew if he didn't do it
Didn't Tony mention after his death "I thought you were gonna give him a pass?" Or something to that effect.
Tony was trying to have his cake and eat it too by making it seem like he wasn't ordering Ralphie to hit Jackie, but when Ralph actually did try to back out Tony stopped him and warned him of the consequences of inaction
he was guilt tripping him because Tony is just as shitty
Tony was trolling Ralph and forcing him to look at the consequences of his actions
i think its a little more open to interpretation, Tony laters says "i thought you were gonna give him a pass" which implies Tony at least tried to remain neutral in decision himself, I think he regretted the way it turned out at very least
He was trying to wash his hands of it and put all the guilt on Ralph imho, when in reality it was Tony's decision
seems more like he left it up to Ralphie and even gave a bit of a nudge towards giving Richie a pass. Tony is usually pretty aggressive and dominant in his orders but the talk with Ralphie is more just him musing he just let Ralph run with it, the whole thing lacked affirmation
*Jackie, but ya this is how I always saw it go down. Especially considering Tony respected Jackie Sr. so much.
Tony straight up tells him that if he doesn't do it he will look weak. If he really wanted Jackie to live, he could've ordered Ralph not to harm him
>if he really wanted
thats the point he didn't care enough to tell Ralphie one way or the other, and he does tell him Ralph would look weak but thats advice more than anything not an order
See
>If you want to be merciful, that is your decision. And who cares if it makes you look like a b***h? You're just a Mafia captain LOL
Read between the lines you half wit homosexual. Tony was putting all of the risk and emotional burden on Ralph and he enjoyed that very much. After all the drama surrounding Ralph's ascendency to captain, Tony was happy to box Ralph in.
Ralph's
>I know how close you are with the family
Was an attempt at not having to take ultimate responsibility for the situation, but Tony wasn't going to let him weasel his way out of it.
He won’t quit this frickin guy
Believe what you want, my little nephew.
Tony was acting that way deliberately partially to absolve himself of responsibility for Jackie's death and partially to rub Ralph's nose in shit, seeing as how desperately Ralph wanted to be a captain. Tony was enjoying putting Ralph in such an uncomfortable position.
>but you know all this, you're a captain.
Tony seems legitimately interested in keeping Jackie out of the mob and is pissed that he dropped out of college. Hes also the son of his dead best friend and was dating his daughter, but Ralphie clearly doesnt give a shit about him either way and encouraged him to enter the mob life by bringing him along and telling him war stories of rising to the top which motivated him into the event that got him killed.
I don't think it's ambiguous, in the car when Tony is all mocky "we know you'll do the right thing" and all "it's YOUR decision, YOU are a captain", it was definitely Tony's psychopath twisting-the-knife kind of emotional torture of Ralph who he didn't like. He got off on making Ralph have to do the thing he didn't want to do and getting to play superior the whole time. Tony knew absolutely no one would've accepted Ralph giving Jackie a pass, so he wanted to dangle it in front of his face even harder.
He didn't give a frick about the prostitute/stripper he was fricking beyond his needs, the same went for Rosalie.
He was also a huge smartass with extreme selfishness and a violent streak. If you're so troubled by this shit maybe this show isn't for you.
You realised how many women in real life wanted to frick Ralph right? You think he's too over the top because you don't have the life experience to realise that people like him actually exist and that he shared a lot of common traits with rather rest of the cast.
You sound like a moron and this show is probably too advanced for you.
Every opinion you've posted in this thread has been wrong. You think you're coming from some high ground of moral authority but you just look like a fool.
Ok moron, go laugh at Ralphie engaging in antisocial behavoir because thats all your 90 iq brain can get from this series.
>but tryhard morons harp on him as the best character because hes the most sadistic and fricked up character. We get it, youre an edgy Cinemaphile guy who finds his psychotic antics funny.
You're just making up all this nonsense based on nothing at all, at least nothing that I've said.
Ralph was always a controversial and often discussed character in the show and in real life. I think you're a little bit hung up on this "darkness" shit. Sure, the show got darker tonally as it went on but were taking about a show where the main character murders a guy in one of the first episodes, where a month puts a hit on her own son, where the main character murders one or his best friends, and on it goes. If you're so offended by Ralph's antics maybe you should just frick off.
>Ralph was always a controversial
>Sure, the show got darker tonally as it went on
Thats literally the point I originally made. The shows tone got darker with season 3 and Ralphie was the most sinister character of the show. Of course I, and anyone with sense, would find offense with things depicted in the show because that is the point. I never said that this was bad.
I stand by my point that you were just caught up with being le edgy Cinemaphile guy who thought ralphie was funny and you got butthurt when I made an obvious remark about the character that was something other than laughing about him. I certainly didnt get "filtered" you projecting pleb.
>I stand by my point that you were just caught up with being le edgy Cinemaphile guy who thought ralphie was funny and you got butthurt
Mostly it just seems like you're a sensitive reddit Black person tourist who has a lot of preconceived ideas about Cinemaphile and me personally, despite me never offering any option on Ralph. This pathetic attempt to appear intelligent and mature while crying
>le le edgy
Just makes you come off like the homosexual you actually are, regardless of your opinions on the show or characters.
Yeah I was right. Youre a moron who is unable to carry a conversation and lack basic reading comprehension.
You're the homosexual who keeps defaulting to this
>le edgy Cinemaphilener
Nonsense and accusing me stuff I've offered no opinion on.
hes not that bad, think of how he acts when his kid gets hit with an arrow, dude was rounded he just lost control with the stripper, everything else was ball breaking
>dude was rounded he just lost control with the stripper
Murdering your pregnant girlfriend is pretty crazy shit. He also blinded the bouncer right before this as a "joke" and was crying laughing after it happened. Theres like no humanity in Ralphie, hes a pure sociopath.
She was a fricking prostitute.
He’s not that bad of a guy, he was just doin a lot of coke back then.
id argue his darkness came because of the gravitas of the actor
and no one wants edgy, but ralph was a fun instigator. everyone reacted when he spoke, compared to most other characters that are doing echos of other characters from better known works
Ralphie wasn't even brought up, you terminally online frick
Ralphie is the comfiest character, though.
ralphie is best character and plenty of comfy scenes happen later
>artie cooking the rabbit
>artie, AJ, and Tony watching tv together, sleepover scene
>Chris and Tony rob the vipers liquor and get steak together after
>Tony and Carmela rekindling in the pool
>therapy scenes are more relaxed and less important
how many rewatches have you put through?
on my second one now and it really does get better on the second one. I noticed now that Tony never curses in front of his kids and gets angry at other characters that do.
I also noticed that early on AJ mentions wanting to go to West Point and Tony says he can wish all he wants because he would never get into there. Then later, Tony mentions West Point as a possible choice for AJ to go to college and he shoots it down saying he could never get into there.
Mother fricking goddamn orange peel beef.
Why don't you shut the frick up newbie? Parading your above surface level observations is embarrassing.
The west point one was cool, but they really hammered this "AJ is an indecisive frick" point with the whole event planner thing. It gets brought up every second episode of season 6
Aj was half a moron and coddled as frick. He and Janice filter so many of you zoomers and 90s born queers.
Nah im thinking his full on moronic, maybe thats why you empathize with him
I love how you continue to flaunt just how filtered you were.
AJ is a perfect example of the directionless millennial male. He just had rich parents who spoiled him so it ended up way worse for him than if he had to fend for himself.
richiebros stay winning
David Proval couldn't help himself
Yeah cause this show was mediocre and nobody gives a frick how old it is
holy based, trips confirm
checked. sopranosgays stay losing
>I wanted a thread. I compromised. I spammed the catalog with dickyposts.
Speak.
You want thread, how's this? Twenty Years on the chan I wanted Sopranos but I compromised. I watched The Dark Knight Rises instead. I wanted to frick Lorraine Bracco but I compromised. I jacked off into a tissue. You see where I'm goin?
Anyone have links to the deleted scenes HBO released today?
>this was nearly Agent "Danielle"
we were fricking ROBBED
She's incredibly hot and actually looks Italian. Wish that casting had worked out
Rick Worley on YouTube (the guy who was spammed last year saying The Star Wars Special Editions are good) included her retroactive removal from Sopranos as another example of why this is good.
Sopranos predicted the future.
WHERE ARE THE GINGERS? THE D GIRL? THE LESBO TENNIS INSTRUCTOR?
>Tracee above Svetlana
Yeah I keked, missing some b***hes though and also half your opinions are objectively wrong.
The schnozz on arnie's wife just totally turns me off. Incredible israeliteess vibes and I'm not into that.
homosexual
Wtf kind of ratings are those?
>Meadow
>Average
Oooof, Madonn
Svetlana should be in top-tier with Charmaine. Melfi is good but should be at least one tier lower. Tracee and Ade belong way further down.
Svetlana will always be my sopranofu, I will fight any dastardly scoundrel who claims otherwise
Tracy is literally disgusting white trash
Where is meadows thicc dorm mate?
>meadows thicc dorm mate?
Disgusting bette mildler c**t
i just started season 6 part B on my 5th rewatch I think. Never skipped a scene besides maybe massive genius once. Loved the long awaited Tony and Bobby lakehouse scenes. Definitely understand all the smaller plot details better than before
how many pool cues did it take to drill through Vito's crust?
I'm convinced that all the people who think this show is good only watch season 1 and think the rest of the show is like it
S1 is probably the 2nd weakest season, seen the show many times
The final scene in the S1 finale is one of the best
In the current Sopranos timeline, mob super lawyer Meadow does tiktok dances in her mansion with her Gen Alphie trans kid
my favorite part of the Meadow storyline is that she never even enrolls in law school
she's like 25 when the show ends and Carmela has to come to terms with the fact that she's just gonna be a housewife too and marry a semi-connected man in Patsy's son
She was in law school already and Patrick wasn't "semi connected". He was a real lawyer, you stupid frick.
>She was in law school already
which school did she attend?
>Patrick wasn't "semi connected". He was a real lawyer
the children of mobsters are always connected
No they aren't. They might be linked though family and friends socially, but that doesn't imply they have any connection to mob business, jackie wasn't connected despite desperately wanting to be, aj and med weren't, angelo's son wasn't, puss's sons weren't, neither were patsy's or silvio's
they're connected, just not in the mafia
AJ's making movies with little Carmine in the finale
Patsy's and Carlo's kids are too
every grown kid who you see on screen is connected if their father is still alive or involved
AJ is working at one one of little carmines legitimate business's. He's not involved or connected to any illegal mob activity. Carlos dumb frick was involved in some illegal shit but not linked directly to the mob, he wasn't an associate or on the path to getting made. Patrick is a lawyer with a mobster father but his work isn't linked to patsy or tony or the sopranos.
you're splitting hairs on the meaning of the word connected and completely losing the initial point which is the Meadow will remain forever tied to the criminal world just like she is instead of marrying someone from the Ivy League and actually going to law school so she could avoid her mother's fate
>Meadow will remain forever tied to the criminal world
tangentially, perhaps to the extent that junior or Tony's lawyers are but that's not the same as being "connected" in rhe commonly understood sense, like beansie or jack massarone.
Its because thats the easy path. At the end of the day shes a rich girl who likes the rich girl life and the idea that she was going to bust her ass for years in order to get a job killing herself on behalf of ghetto moron rapist and murderers is ridiculous. Of course she would grow out of that bleeding heart shit and marry some rich guy to provide for her.
Shes so well written.
The entire family is written so well even if AJ is hard to stomach at all times
>even if AJ is hard to stomach at all times
It must hit too close to home for you.
my point exactly
Sammy! The Great War! I liked it!
commendatori!
Speak of the devil. I'm watching Cold Stones right now. Close to finishing my first watch
Close the thread right now homosexual
You're about to get spoiled
Janice is one of the only characters in the show that demonstrated a tiny bit of change.
>tfw watching S1 on TV again
I forgot how slim Tony was in S1 and how playful he is compared to the ruthless psycho he became towards the end
They wrote him to be more sinister in later seasons because normies genuinely liked him so much. He became a beloved TV dad.
even in S3 he spares Patsy even though Patsy knows Tony got his twin brother whacked
A younger man, with less stress and responsibility and with, although its the last gasp, young innocent children and not moody, c**ty teenagers.
10 Years Later:
> AJ, now going by the name "Tony Soprano Jr"; is now running a website where he shares "inside information" about his dad's crew. He also releases a book, which is ghost written by Meadow, who looked it all up on the internet
> Meadow has gone into entertainment, and brokers a deal where Neflix buys AJ's book for a series
> Carmela gets bored, and becomes a short-lasting member on the couch of one of those "real housewives of" shows
>> Carmela gets bored, and becomes a short-lasting member on the couch of one of those "real housewives of" shows
Seems too trashy for Carm tbhfam.
AJ clowned around at the job Tony set up for him for a few months before he got bored and moved back in with Carm and went full neet
Meadow rode the wiener carousel and took 3 credit hour semesters at law school before she learned she could live comfortably as an onlyfans model
Carm learned quickly that real estate is fricking terrible when you don’t have mob connection to put the screws to inspectors. She sold the mansion and lives in a duplex, scrounging by as assistant manager at a Hallmark
This is all moronic. You're a fricking idiot.
But once Carm realizes that she's running out of money, she'll get together with her old friends (all mob widows), and bring back a version of the real show "Mob Wives".
>watch this after growing up
>become extremely attracted to Carm and think she’s an ideal wife
Anyone else?
Carm might have been a good mom but Ro is clearly better suited to wifely duties
I know Anon’s bottom was impacted if that’s what you’re referring to
Only homosexual pedophiles watched it.
>25 years
Time for another Borko marathon. Salud!
Any old gays here remember the "Where's Pussy" shirts after season 1?
Yeah
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>pretending to be too stupid to realise that he's listing great season 4 episodes.
Gonna rewatch season 1 starting with very episode the show first landed on 25 years ago.
>25 frickin years and not a single thread
I'll tell you this, my estimation about Cinemaphile as a board just fricking plummeted
Its a shame they weren't able to have a 9/11 episode but like, a 9/11 episode somehow written years later. Like an episode where 9/11 happens but its mostly a comedy of every character being melodramatic narcissist and trying to make it about themselves despite being completely unscathed.
Like we don't get to see Paulie on 9/11. Like he has a Pine Barrens style escapade with Christopher looking for a muslim to hate crime and they somehow JUST end up getting stuck on a roof or something all day and Paulie starts to freak out out because in the open air like this they're so vulnerable to the terrorists, like they're going to fly a plane onto the roof of a random apartment block in New Jersey any second now because they can see them there.
There is a gigantic gap of shit that happens off screen between season 3 to season 4.
From 9/11, Enron scandal, to the post-9/11 economic downturn, to Afghanistan war, to the anthrax attacks, etc. So much shit and so crap happening and we never got to see any of it in the Sopranos.
But I do think a flash back episode in like season 6-7 would have been good of 9/11. Maybe have Carmine supposed to have a business deal that day in World Trade Center A, but can't because some bullshit with Tony.
Have chat gpt write a quick script
>when you realize you're still the goat after 25 years of premiering
>It petered out.
>It petered out.
>It died on the vine.
>It died on the vine.
>It died on the vine. The guy, he moved or something.
>NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE FRICK I'M TALKING ABOUT?!
I wonder if the show would have been better or worse if Nancy stayed alive long enough to see the end of the series (or wherever David intended her to die). It feels like they split off her storylines to fit both Janice and Junior and it ended up working out great, but Nancy was such a fantastic actor and her and James played off eachother perfectly as that dysfunctional mother-son relationship.
definitely better. The show became a bloated mess after she died.
>definitely better. The show became a bloated mess after she died.
Hard decision, they could have tried to recast, but who could fill Nancy Marchand's shoes?
I'd say much better and they'd have dropped at least one of the "made guy troublemaker comes back to town" storylines
>tfw you realise your mother reminds you a lot of Livia
Obviously not nearly to the same degree, but the same general consistently negative outlook on life and ignoring others trying to support her.
Just watched the finale for the first time.
https://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/the-sopranos-definitive-explanation-of-the-end/
Some good stuff here if you can ignore the poor writing, but lot's of technical influence from Kubrik, Chase's directing notes, autistic shot by shot analysis