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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The last tolerable Bioware game, and even then it wasn't all that great.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How dare you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      DA:O was pretty dated even at the time gameplay-wise

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It wasn't dated, it was using a timeless design (realtimeish D&D combat), and they did some quite interesting things like spell comboes.
        The problem is that you could count the number of abilities and effects on two hands. Incredibly small pool of fun shit to play with.
        But it wasn't dated.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          it was
          I remember it feeling pretty clunky when I bought it on release
          it was the RP/story elements that helped it
          ME1 was the same I guess, came out around the same time, although the LE has made that a bit smoother now

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I remember it feeling pretty clunky when I bought it on release
            It's probably because you never played a game like that before. It was the exact same stuff as KOTOR, NWN etc.
            You can argue it's clunky on principle, but it wasn't any more clunky than similar games.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Not really, the gameplay system was fine but the actual combat felt pretty clunky to me. Played plenty of RPGs with smoother gameplay by then

              Origins came out in 2009 or something though, Kotor and NWN were like 2002/2003? That's a big difference

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >It wasn't outdated, it was just very similar to the games from half a decade ago
              Hmmm

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's just not what outdated means. That combat style has not been made redundant by technological progress.
                Doesn't BG3 use the exact same system?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                BG3 uses turn based rather than real time with pause.
                Though ironically that’s an even older system

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't play it. I know Tyranny, Pillars of Eternity use it. I don't know if Divinity does, but I suspect it does. Those are all recent games.
                It is not an outdated system.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I was talking about the actual feel of the gameplay
                I said the combat system was fine
                it's just actually playing it felt a bit dated and clunky
                BG3 feels very smooth for a DnD isometric

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >The problem is that you could count the number of abilities and effects on two hands.
          Just enough for me. I don't want 80 different abilities to keep track of

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dragon Age 2 is better than POOrigins
      don't @ me and frick off back to Cinemaphile

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Inquisition mogs the shit out of both of them. Origins gays can frick off to the corner and DA2 gays can gtfo altogether.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          i really cant tell if you are joking or not. Isnt inquisition a isngle player mmo+Black folk+ugly she-elf?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >isngle player mmo+Black folk+ugly she-elf?
            just like Origins

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              does origins have Black folk? i dont recall any. But origins is definetly worse than DA2. Half of origins dungeons are far too long and its completely unbalanced

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >does origins have Black folk?
                yes it does have black NPC's
                also Sten and the Qunari are Black folk

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                frick i completely forgott about him. I guess the shitty graphics made him blend into the surroundings

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Inquisition mogs the shit out of both of them. Origins gays can frick off to the corner and DA2 gays can gtfo altogether.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      DA2 is objectively better then DA1

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    LOGAIN? WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! LOOOOOGAIN!

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    oh I recently started playing that again.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    was he justified? i can't remember

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kinda, the king was reckless and they likely would've still lost the battle against the darkspawn, even if he committed his troops.
      where he went wrong is trying to pin the blame on the grey wardens and making a power grab for himself instead of pulling all available resources to defeat the blight with a different strategy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >instead of pulling all available resources to defeat the blight with a different strategy
        He didn't believe in the Blight. He thought that it's just some band of Darkspawn.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, The Archdemon wasn't even there

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Larger scheme of things, yes
      In that moment he was a LIL b***h

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In his mind, yes, he wasn’t some power hungry hypocrite
      He genuinely believed Cailan was a vainglorious idiot trying to spin an incursion into a blight for his hero fantasies, hence why he didn’t believe they needed the wardens, and was terrified of him selling out to Orlais after fighting a war of independence.
      Obviously he was wrong in the meta sense, but it was more him not reading the script to allay his fears rather than going full moron.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >he wasn’t some power hungry hypocrite
        Everything he did shows he was a power hungry hypocrite. And an idiot, he was so obsessed with Orlais that he nearly got the country destroyed by the Blight. He was all about "muh Ferelden" but enabled slavery against all traditions, he allowed/ordered murders of lords loyal to Ferelden because they might oppose his power grab, sent his goon to kill opponents etc. A bunch of npc chatters and some side quest make it clear a civil war is about to happen while the blight crisis is getting worse by the day, and it can be safely blamed on Loghain.

        People usually defends him by saying he saved his soldiers by ordering the retreat but then he spent all his time acting against the Wardens and fricking around with the nobility instead of doing something useful. And the Ostagar battle plan was beyond moronic and got most of Ferelden's army killed but this guy is supposed to be some big shot strategist?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Also going by Soldier's Peak, there's a bit of a history in Ferelden of people mistrusting the Grey Wardens

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >an unaffiliated secretive cult-like third party doesn't have to follow any local laws, customs, or taxes
          >they have the power to do anything they want, enter anywhere they want, and can even forcefully recruit people

          I wouldn't trust them either. Especially if they haven't done their one job in thousands of years, yet still get to use the treaties all the time

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Let’s drop the moral posturing, shall we? There's no shame in it, Warden. Revenge is motivation enough – at least it's honest. Hate me, but do it honestly!

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't let her join my party. I didn't even stop to talk to her. Just... sorry! My medieval fantasy can do without that stuff. I know, I'm the worst!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She's kind of based honestly. She's one of the good ones (of mages I mean)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She's not worth having on your party. Knight-Enchanter requires spamming spells to build up your lightsaber charges. The AI is completely incapable of handling a KE's playstyle.

      Take the gay Dorian. His fire/fear combo is perfect for CC. Solas is better against bosses though. Ditch Viv

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR STUDIOS TO PUT OUT GOOD FANTASY RPGS? AHHHHH

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ummm bro???!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I wish they’d fleshed out the evil route a bit more.
        Durge is all well and good, and there’s enough stuff to do to hit max level unless you’re an absolute moron, but you still piss away potentially six companions and a boatload of quests for a tiny fraction in return

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Larian doesn't care about the evil route, they cop out by saying "evil should feel emptier" (ie. they didn't have time to develop anything)
          BG3 doesn't really have many choices that matter much, you're basically still funnelled into the same things but maybe there's a bit of different flavor here and there

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah they more went with the little and often approach of minor details cropping up. I can’t say it’s not a bad long term approach, given how mass effect royally shit the bed in part due to being unable to write around the various choices (though being helmed by an absolute moron for the conclusion sure didn’t help) but it’s all moot now since wizards are such meddling buttholes that Swen hates them and wants nothing more to do with them

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >but you still piss away potentially six companions and a boatload of quests
          to be fair, most the best companions stick with you on the massacre route (Shadowheart/Astarion/Lae'zel + potentially Gale but he kinda falls off after act 1 anyway)
          the ones you lose out on are Wyll (boring), Karlach (basically no content, only hyped because of waifuing), and the ones recruited later who are crap anyway, pretty sure barely anyone uses them except Minthara (who is better on massacre route anyway, and previously exclusive to it)

          The extra quests are the tiefling ones which are all just chores really. They're the most boring quests in the game, honestly the main thing you miss out on is just some gear (potent robe in particular)
          I don't think the quests were all that much

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        gay game

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        my point is they are so few and far between. the cadence of good, unique games hasnt correlated with the increase in the size of the industry

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A shame they pulled the plug on the game so early, WOTC clearly wanted the lion's share, and they bailed before anything bad happened. There are some things like Karlach not having an actual quest, Minthara being a hireling with dialogue and act 3 as a whole feeling like a step-down from earlier acts that brings the game down, now those things will never get fixed.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The devs are still updating the game and adding new content.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >everybody is bi. Not a single straight perso

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tell random party member to frick off and leave
    >they take all their equipment with them
    FRICK YOU STEN GIVE ME BACK MY JUGGERNAUT ARMOUR

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Can't imagine anything more homosexual than choosing to play as a dwarf

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    All the DLC stuff kinda spoils things. You can have the best armor, weapons, rings etc virtually at the start of the game.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I remember they changed something like this for the Mass Effect LE remaster
      DLC items are spread across the game now like other items

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Me (Based handsome warrior chad)
    Shale (Big tank)
    Leliana (Lock picker)
    Wynne (Healer)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Who do you pick when Leliana butts heads with Wynne...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Zevran (No homo)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      But why have you not chosen your wife Morrigan!
      She is a good wife! She is!

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Morrigan is sexy
    I wish i could find an irl girl that looks like her with the same personality

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Official party power rankings

    God Tier
    Morrigan
    Alistair

    Good Tier
    Wynne
    Shale

    Okay Tier
    Leliana
    Zevran
    Dog

    Shit Tier
    Sten
    Loghain

    Lmao Fricking Dwarf Tier
    Oghren

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He did nothing wrong.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who is the most kino Cinemaphileoice actor?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Mark Hamill's Joker is the GOAT

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Throw a dart at the main characters for LoK and you’ll have a good shot.
      Scott McNeil in Dawn of War runs an amazing wavelength of kino to pure meme.
      Tim Bentick in Vermintide is a standout in an exemplary cast

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I tried playing this again recently but it has aged so badly I couldn't get past the tutorial face section as a mage.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I couldn't even beat the tutorial
      >This means the game has aged badly

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >classic ESL reading comprehension

        I don't know why I expect otherwise coming to Cinemaphile these days.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >not putting a comma before "but"
          >misspelling "fade" as "face"
          >but I'm the ESL
          Nice try, bucko, but you're fricking with an English teacher now.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Well, what about Shepard? Earthborn... but no record of his family.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >his
      Don't you mean >her?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >game thread has been on Cinemaphile for 6 hours
    Based

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