Sozin's comet is GONE.

>Adopting other people's kids
Omega alright lul

Anon you can have sex with a woman after she gives birth it's how people get siblings

Then why is ATLA getting a series and not a movie?

You think that because you have ZERO imagination. Just like with Season 1, they'll streamline the story to fit the live action TV medium. They're not adapting it 1:1 like the anime.

Only because East Blue is the lightest fricking saga of the entire series. Yes, it's 100 chapters, but there's not nearly as much lore dropped in it compared to the Paradise part of the Grandline. They can't skip by nearly as much shit, not when Whisky Peak is important to establishing Baroque Works as a massive threat, and Little Garden for both Nami's illness and Usopp's ambitions of being a great warrior of the seas

Frick off with your imagination bullshit. It's hardly fricking imaginative with what they did. You can only speed through and condense so much, you fricking dingdong

Get a real argument, newbie

everything, every word, is about anon seething and crying about how someone was " impolite and dismissive towards me", while claiming he was trying the opposite. Normal people don't do that, they just talk with other fellow normal people, they don't make these weird gymnastics to avoid conversation topics or avoid hurting someone.
Anon was avoiding being an absolute butthole and a condescending piece of shit because that's how he is, as if people are going to go on the internet to cry about people not liking something like he does.

no? i have talked about movies and even shitted on them with girls and is chill, it would be different if it was a favorite movie of theirs and i didn't cared and just start trashing it for no reason.

So, are you an expert on how normal people talk, or are you an expert on whining on the internet about other people and how they act?

i'm giving my opinion on this post:

I once had a coworker recommend me the shyamalan movie because they saw it, liked it, and thought it “seemed like something I would like.” I didn’t want to be impolite by trashing the movie they’d said they liked, so instead of telling them i thought the movie sucked balls, I said “oh i actually really liked the cartoon it was based off of. If you liked the movie so much, you should try the show.” But they said they don’t watch cartoons or kids’ shows. Which, seemed impolite and dismissive towards me and was exactly the kind of thing I was avoiding doing to them.

If this Netflix show existed and I’d recommended them it instead, I’m sure they would have jumped right on it. This show is made for people like that.

I'm here to discuss things, feel free to do the same.

I never said nothing matters, I said it's fricking stupid to act like cartoons are beneath oneself because of age. It's the dumbest fricking thing, it's literally cringe when people think like that. It's one thing to say "why are you watching a show that's for little kids?", but to act like every single piece of animation in the world is "for kids" makes the people who say that look moronic. Point. Fricking. Blank. Period.

I don't think the movie even made that many major changes, other than mispronouncing the characters names.

Did they make any new music for the movie or live-action series?

>that’s what i was saying
Yeah, I was agreeing with you. Are you ok?

No. I’m sorry if it accidentally came off that way because of my use of the word “you,” but I’m accustomed to using it as a generalized word to mean other people, not the person I am speaking to.

>And so fricking what? There is literally nothing wrong with enjoying works outside your demographic.
yes, but it IS for children, and is understandable that people may want to avoid it for being for children. You are acting as if people that would rather watch something meant for them is being moronic.
If the ATLA live action sucks is literally the same tone and acting as ATLA the animation was it will feel like the power rangers, which adults might enjoy, but then it will no longer be meant for the LOTR audience which is was the shyamalan movie was embarrasingly trying to be. This show is for those people in theory, and has nothing to do if they enjoy bluey or whatever the frick.

superficial people do that, but you can't blame people for assuming you are childish if you only watch children cartoons.

>Teens, technically.
No it isn't. That shit's TV-Y7.

Sure, but it's still for kids and aired on Nickelodeon, a kid's channel.

Judging by the humor on the first episodes of S1 being too kiddy I'd say it was aimed at kids at first but it began evolving as a more serious show after The Blue Spirit episode which was supossed to be the ending at the very beggining.

i love cartoons, some of my favorites are dragon ball (yes it's a cartoon), samurai champloo (also a cartoon) and clarence (god tier cartoon).
I still think they are for children or at best for teenagers. There is nothing bad about it, some cartoons are for adults like family guy, but that one is a piece of shit so "who" is for doesn't even matter, but it apparently does to you.

This guy is correct. Animation is inherently childish because it appeals to children. Normal adults shouldn't bother with watching cartoons as they are beyond that. In other words, grow up.

I kind of disagree with that, honestly the mistake can be on Bryke's part in the first place for making Sozin's Comet come in less than a year's time, it was actually kind of stupid to me at the time even (but maybe they ironically thought that they didn't want to deal with aging up the character models, which could be hilarious to think about today). A lot of people put emphasis on the sense of urgency of Sozin's Comet, but I actually think it's not that important of an aspect. Making Sozin's Comet's arrival to be unknown or not even vaguely like calculable messes things up a bit too, because then it just becomes plot convenience (like "oh how convenient Sozin's Comet we don't know arrival date of didn't happen in S2-S3-S4!" etc), so it must be at least vaguely possible to pin point.

They didn’t say they removed the comet entirely, they said they removed the ticking time clock. The comet can be still happen in the past and only come up later when they discover it’s coming back again. That doesn’t break the show, just upsets nitpicky fanboys like you

>They didn’t say they removed the comet entirely
Which was not something I ever claimed?
>they said they removed the ticking time clock.
Which they didn't do if they didn't remove Sozin's Comet?
>The comet can be still happen in the past and only come up later when they discover it’s coming back again.
Which you didn't address in my post at all as there is no reason for Roku, motherfricker with thousands of years of knowledge from previous Avatar lives, not bring up this small little detail which showrunners didn't remove. Like, do you just not see the problem here?
>That doesn’t break the show, just upsets nitpicky fanboys like you
Any reason to be so hostile?

Why? Not like their names had anything to do with the year

Oh sure, because Wingardium Leviosa totally mentions something about the fricking goddamn 90s

Yea yea, the spells were all totally tells of the year, keep telling yourself that

True, but we also know that the wizarding world is kinda moronic. They see muggle stuff and some get fascinated by it like it's the hottest thing. Ron's dad was all about the cars and some other tehcnology, acting like what people imagine folk from 1890s would have reacted almost.

It wasn't so much that Spike had been through all that life can throw at him, it's just that his life has had very little meaning, especially before he met Julia. While sure, older people might not be able to relate to that, it isn't like there aren't younger people who feel like their 30 years is twice as long because of whatever hardships.
As for Jet, yea, a lot of people agree that he was the overall best, with John being a close second since he had some moments of nailing Spike's world weariness. And then everyone else was just trash. Faye felt like they were trying to appeal to things like the Harley Quinn demographic, and the less we saw about Vicious Malfoy the better

he wasn't too bad in the original. While he could have had a bit more screentime to flesh him out, it was obviously that they wanted him to feel like a dark antithesis of Spike. And if too much characterization is given, then it might be harder to pull off things like the two believing one can't live without the other and that they're like two sides of the same coin since the two weren't supernatural in any way, just friends turned rivals who believed in mutual destruction.

He didn't seem that out of place. Edgy, sure, but I mean, main character is named SPIKE. Sure, even some real people have that as a name, but it's being named after something pointy/edgy is pretty bonkers in and of itself.

For a lot of people, sure. But don't forget that the world of Cowboy Bebop is essentially like the Fallout world, just without the nuclear fallout and complete collapse of human civilization. While we never got any real info on Spike's childhood, it's fair to assume it was pretty shitty if it all led to him joining a crime syndicate and taking part in some kind of war. And obviously, war is hell for anybody, be they someone in their late teens or early adult years, or even their later years if they're a veteran pulled back into service

>Jet is only 35
Goddamn it Japan.

>Tingle
At least Tingle is a joke of a manchild who desperately wants to maintain the innocent joy of his childhood in the face of overwhelming despair of growing up. So.. he's literally every Millennial.
>Homer
>35
Being a married man and having three kids and owning a two-story house on a single income at a job he got with zero college experience with two vehicles all by age 35 was perfectly reasonable in 1988 when the show aired. And Mr. Burns was seen as an evil boss for telling Homer "Don't forget, you're here forever."
These days, we'd kill for that kind of job security.

You do realize war ages people right? Worst example you could've picked

Yea, I think I remember hearing something about how even trans were saying "okay, this shit is just pandering" because they realized how nonsensical the change was

Well they say of Singaporean descent, so she doesn't have to necessarily be purely Asian. But yea, the live action thing was just all over the place. It's funny, I used to shit on the rumors about Keanu Reeves doing Cowbody Bebop, though this was before he finally crawled out from under the Matrix's shadow with the John Wick films. Now I'm wishing I hadn't been so harsh on the guy just because I thought he'd make Spike act like Ted in a blue suit

Boy, was she embarressed! But she had a war to fight, it's not like she could just stop waterbending to learn it the proper way from scratch.

Can only wonder if this means we'll see edgy shit like firebending incinerating people until they're skeletons and earthbending lodging rocks in skulls, you know, "mature" shit like that because god forbid a kung fu inspired series rely on knockouts and the like

Eh, just CGI them into whatever the frick is kosher for China when it airs there

To be fair, that and bunch of those other licensed games were by Platinum's B team. And the only reasonably decent one was Transformers Devastation, since it had a solid gameplay mechanic, most of the classic 80s cast, and even the dude who did the movie's soundtrack. Korra game had too many weird gimmicks, and that TMNT game shat the bed by having confusing level layouts, no fricking co-op for four players, and barely making the turtles feel distinct from one another when they fricking all have different fricking weapons

>Stronger than what
Stronger than jackboots on the ground? Transition from traditional military power to nuclear allegory? All of this was lost on you?
>The Rebel Base was just ready to fight the empire because... it's what they do
Source: your ass. An endless supply of ships and plucky young people to fly them in suicide missions would certainly be a useful thing for a beleaguered rebellion to have!
>Leia willingly baited the Death Star to Rebel base at Yavin IV
No you dumb frick, Leia saying "they let us get away" wasn't a clue that you and only you were smart enough to interpret. They had no choice but to head to Yavin because - once again - their window of opportunity was closing by the second and they needed to make an all or nothing gambit before the empire successfully became a nuclear power and resistance became futile.
>Netflix fails to provide satisfying explanation as to "why not now"
Which was the whole point of this argument before you decided to be autistically wrong about Star Wars.
You should give some serious consideration to suicide. There are people more deserving of your organs.

>it wasn't there, if you are making a nuclear allegory
Lucas was. I wasn't. Stopped reading there.

>Stronger than jackboots on the ground? Transition from traditional military power to nuclear allegory? All of this was lost on you?
Nothing what lost on me because it wasn't there, if you are making a nuclear allegory, I don't think it's a good idea to make a story where the good ending is just blowing up the nuke. That's just you reaching if you are moronic or just being disingenious.
>Source: your ass. An endless supply of ships and plucky young people to fly them in suicide missions would certainly be a useful thing for a beleaguered rebellion to have!
Ok then, what were they doing on Yavin IV and why did Leia tell Han to go there?
>No you dumb frick, Leia saying "they let us get away" wasn't a clue that you and only you were smart enough to interpret. They had no choice but to head to Yavin because - once again - their window of opportunity was closing by the second and they needed to make an all or nothing gambit before the empire successfully became a nuclear power and resistance became futile.
Why did Leia know she can go there, why did she know there would be help?
>Which was the whole point of this argument before you decided to be autistically wrong about Star Wars.
The only thing I got intentionally wrong is telling you that Leia sent Ben to Yavin IV, whereas she sent him to Alderaan before its explosion, I was hoping to derail you like that with you making wrong arguments, but you made wrong arguments all on your own while derailing this thread and providing no coherent additions to the on-topic discussion. Your points don't even have anything to do with Avatar anymore and not even once you even tried to explain how this all
>If anything it's even more similar than I had intended
you are a waste of time.

Gotta be honest you're so goddamn stupid that I stopped reading and restarted so here we go:
>Ok then, what were they doing on Yavin IV and why did Leia tell Han to go there?
It was a gambit, the word you conveniently didn't quote because you don't know what it means outside the context of some Xman character throwing cards at people. She risked Yavin because there would never be a better chance, likely any real chance at all, to attack the empire after the death star was operational.
>The only thing I got intentionally wrong is telling you that Leia sent Ben to Yavin IV
Yeah my eyes had glazed over by the time I reached that point in your post because it became clear that it doesn't matter if you have anything to contribute; what matters to you is having your moronic contribution out there for people considerably smarter than you to dismantle.
>Your points don't even have anything to do with Avatar
You have an entire five paragraph sperg-out here because you somehow STILL don't get the point. Let me put this as close to monosyllabic as I can for you: in show with Aang they need to fight while fire sky or fire fight guys get even more fire. In Star Wars they need blow up big blow up orb while shield is down or big blow up orb will have shield that Luke guys can't get past.
Ask your wrangler if you need further help; this is as simple as I'm inclined to make it.

>because it was a "gambit" to fly there not knowing if there's any rebel base
She knew there was a base, a base at which they had been gathering intel for as long as there was an organized resistance to gather intel. That's what made it a gambit. She risked Yavin by leading the empire to it to make a counterattack because she recognized the destructive capabilities of the empire's new weapon and concluded that there would not be another time to make a suicidal trench run. That's not to mention what the state of the rebellion's intelligence was like after one of its highest profile members got made, one who is high profile because of a senate position that the empire eliminated in recognition of the fact that they would soon have the firepower to put down entire systems who attempted to resist (again, the nuclear allegory of the movie you missed).

So yeah, they had to shit or get off the pot. Is that simple enough for you, or do you absolutely have to know the smear patterns on each individual sheet of toilet paper? Christ. This was about Avatar at some point, you know.

> Let me put this as close to monosyllabic as I can for you: in show with Aang they need to fight while fire sky or fire fight guys get even more fire. In Star Wars they need blow up big blow up orb while shield is down or big blow up orb will have shield that Luke guys can't get past.
Actually that is patently wrong, Kyoshi told him to wack the guy and Aang refused that, it's a very specific plot point. For your allegory to work Aang should've blown up Sozin's Comet. Instead he just took the bending away from Ozai, which parallels Star Wars not in any way shape or form.

>Hey, you know if you stretch this analogy far past the point it was made it doesn't... LE HOLD UP?!
Well that's real fricking neato but Aang didn't receive that guidance until after the sozin's comet offensive had failed. Maybe he would've blown the shit up given the means and desire but by the time they were both in place he was conflicted as to whether or not killing ozai was the right call. Not really sure how you'd say commitment to nonviolence despite the personal risks and consequences where faith in one's dogma and refusal to take the easy way out of just killing the fricker isn't a parallel to the series where the main character makes a last minute commitment to nonviolence despite the personal risks and consequences because his faith in his dogma and refusal to take the easy way out of just killing the fricker, but there you go.

>I was thinking of the day of the black sun rather than sozin's comet, my mistake. But I maintain that Aang's commitment to airbender principles of holding all life sacred even in the face of his mortal enemy who has command of a force he has only ever seen dabbled in by comparison makes the analogy valid.
Luke killed millions.

If I'm understanding you correctly, you're endorsing the idea that Leia did just stumble upon a rebel base? Because I have no idea what the frick else you could be implying. She either knew one was there and needed to get information to it immediately (IE the scenario you watched play out for the remainder of the movie after the death star escape) or she ought to pick my lottery numbers from now on. Or maybe you're implying she knew that was the location of a base and despite being the one to say "they let us get away and they're tracking us" didn't realize that the empire let them get away and was tracking them? Maybe you didn't remember that part. Don't worry, I'll save you the effort of googling it.
>They let us go. It's the only explanation for the ease of our escape.
>Easy? You call that easy?
>They're tracking us.
Words.
>What's so important? What's he carrying?
>The technical readout of that battlestation. I only hope that when that data is analyzed a weakness can be found. It's not over yet.
Just take the fricking L before you derail the thread further.

>I was thinking of the day of the black sun rather than sozin's comet, my mistake. But I maintain that Aang's commitment to airbender principles of holding all life sacred even in the face of his mortal enemy who has command of a force he has only ever seen dabbled in by comparison makes the analogy valid.
Luke killed millions.

Bummer, dude. Which of the three Star Wars movies did that happen in?

>No, that was your idea
Please be honest with me, for the first time in this thread: is English your first language? Because you're off the hook if not. You're awful comfortable extrapolating the death toll despite being the "SOURCE? DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE? A VALID SOURCE FROM A PEER REVIEWED JOURNAL?" defense you hid behind just one post ago, one of the many reason why I now feel the need to ask.

Because it wasn't a secret that you alone were sharp enough to crack? This wasn't a master stroke of genius on Leia's part or foreshadowing that only you (yes, you!) were able to decipher. Leia stayed the course despite knowing they were being followed because it was the only move left to make. They went to Yavin because it was go there to mount a counteroffensive or allow the empire's final victory. She "baited" them in the sense that the runner baits a throw to home on a pop fly with two outs - you operate under the assumption that your last slim shot at victory is still an option or you accept defeat and... hell, what would any of them do to accept defeat? Do a flip into the sarlacc pit? I don't imagine it would've made a particularly entertaining fantasy sci-fi film has they pursued that option.

The first one, the one you grossly misinterpreted to create analogy with your gross misinterpretation of ATLA

Gross gross gross gross nice thesaurus, shame it didn't give you a point.

Because it's not bait if you don't have a trap on the other side. A force to counterattack with similar numbers and firepower is what separates a diversion from desperation. And since Leia didn't actually know she had something to use against the empire ("I only hope that when that data is analyzed a weakness can be found") that narrows it down. This should sound familiar to you by now: there was never going to be another chance. They risked everything because everything was already lost the moment that beam could fire. All they had left was the possibility of a weakness to exploit in the form of the schematics, and they didn't have a whole lot of people qualified to analyze those, either. That has to be true, right? If they had somewhere besides Yavin to find someone who could locate and exploit a weakness they'd have gone there instead of compromising what is evidently such an important outpost. It stands to reason that the only thing that would make the compromise of such a comprehensive and relatively comfortable base (compared to Hoth, for instance) worthwhile would be either the inability to evade the empire or if circumstances were so dire that losing such major resources no longer mattered, IE imminent victory or defeat. Fortunately wiser minds prevailed in ESB so blowing up the death star ultimately mattered much less in the greater context of the story compared to the ridiculous reach and personal compromise of anyone gaining some amount of petty power in exchange for obeisance to the empire, but as many people are so helpful as to point out, we're discussing the first one.

tl;dr she was making a beeline to the only people remaining who could still turn the tide of the war, not leading lambs to the slaughter

Intentionally seeding what appears to be a weakness to ultimately deceive and triumph over an opponent seeking to exploit it at the cost of their own defenses. Why don't you explain what you think bait is in convoluted, broken English? You've not been waiting on my permission so far but frick it, you have it now. Please do go on.

Well then by your moronic definition then congratulations, you're right. Those of us who routinely speak the language you're bastardizing see this as pedantic at best, backpeddling at worst. Now excuse me, I'm going to go bait my mouse traps; by your definition I suppose that would be spreading some cheese and then insisting they stay for tea or something.

The first one

> Let me put this as close to monosyllabic as I can for you: in show with Aang they need to fight while fire sky or fire fight guys get even more fire. In Star Wars they need blow up big blow up orb while shield is down or big blow up orb will have shield that Luke guys can't get past.
Actually that is patently wrong, Kyoshi told him to wack the guy and Aang refused that, it's a very specific plot point. For your allegory to work Aang should've blown up Sozin's Comet. Instead he just took the bending away from Ozai, which parallels Star Wars not in any way shape or form.

Everyone understands that they haven't confirmed that they aren't removing it, so, if not establishing the comet in season 1 is already a big deal, then why not just establish it now and change the rules, which is a smaller deal than not establishing it in season 1. No one would blame them for not confirming that the show will take place in less than a year, but removing Sozin's Comet from S1, how is that a viable solution, how does that help and not just go against the benefit of hindsight, how does that help child actors? It only creates more problems down the line.