Who's idea was this George or Dave's because it's about the most craziest idea I've ever heard next to his midocolirans are space "germs"
Was there anything like this in the E.U?
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When you treat space combat and navigation like it’s an ocean, why is space whales so crazy? Orange jailbait is far more wild.
Based George
It's a little weird considering George said he got the idea for Ahsoka because he wanted his new daughter to have someone to relate to in Star Wars.
I yearn for the old days when midichlorians were the dumbest thing in Star Wars.
As bad as they are, I don't even think midichlorians are the dumbest thing in TPM. The tacked on prophecy and Anakin's Chosen One status was always more offensive to me.
>As bad as they are, I don't even think midichlorians are the dumbest thing in TPM. The tacked on prophecy and Anakin's Chosen One status was always more offensive to me.
For me, it’s Anakin building C-3P0.
that kind of lore-breaking shit always happens in prequels which is why you should never fricking make prequels
It's not like it was necessary to inflate Anakin's significance or shove in familiar characters, though. The prequels could have been so much better than they were.
Isn't space whales from Star Trek?
Space whales are from Macross
>Macross the space mocean
Dynamite 7 came out over a decade after ESB
Yes
It’s not a particularly original idea.
Star Trek has terrestrial whales that talk to a giant spaceship that may or may not be filled with space whales. Or it might just be empty, the script calls it the "whale probe".
There was an anime version of moby dick in space. Also the Baten Kaitos game is all about flying whales and their descendants
I read that for the first time in Excession (1996).
space whales is a very common concept
Jodorowskys space witches were using them as space ships
Literally movie about it
Star Trek has intelligent whales who travel in space using space ships. The USS Cerritos has two beluga whale crewmembers. The Enterprise-D also had a Cetacean Ops section but we never saw it.
>The USS Cerritos has two beluga whale crewmembers
That's pretty much a parody though
We Star Realms now
The Brood were using space sharks in early 80s X-Men comics.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpaceWhale
No frick you I won't click that. I get lost in wikis all the fricking time and I just can't... I need to eat
It's a very straightforward example of space whales being mainstream in sci fi before you declared anything you don't like is "SJW".
Cope.
I don't find it particularly offensive
it is literally a reference to the EU
Rebels was a childrens' show. It fit there. It doesn't fit here.
But Ahsoka is also a children's show
It tries not to be
that's not what i'm witnessing
Yes, but for brown and homosexual children. I’m not being trite, this is explicitly what disney is directly targeting.
Really makes me wonder how ALL of their shit is failing
Shits like 8 years old
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Whale-ship
im so over star wars (for a while now) but this is a cool visual image. not enough to rope me back in, but still..
Is the only time I noticed the shows have music too
Pretty sure there were all kinds of Lovecraftian creatures living in space. Not that different from that giant worm from ESB that lived inside the asteroid. Also, remember Solo and the Kessel Run? There was this horror octopus living in the Maw.
It was honestly pretty kino.
What allows them to fly?
The power of accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.
special imperial directive # 2743
Dense atmosphere.
Archimedes states that the upward buoyant force that is exerted on a body immersed in a fluid, whether fully or partially, is equal to the weight of the fluid that the body displaces.
The Force, obviously.
I don't like all this Lovecraftian bullshit. Really takes away from what Star Wars was about. A father who strayed from the path and was brought back by his son. The second you add giant bullshit whales and gods of the force or whatever it just makes the original tale that much more diminished in importance. Not to mention the slippery slope. If we can add giant whales to space, why not add giant sharks? How about some fricking turtles? The second they break their own boundaries is when shit gets ridiculous.
You never saw empire strikes back or phantom menace? You really forgot the exogorth and the sando aqua monster? Star wars always had giant animals.
>This is stupid!
>Ah, but you forget. Star Wars was ALWAYS stupid.
Pwned
Why are you pretending to care then if you hate how star wars was always an exotic science fantasy?
>star wars was always like this
>T-THEN IT WAS ALWAYS STUPID
Then why the frick do you care? Just admit you never liked star wars you esl moron
Star Wars was always about crazy space adventures, you fricking lucas wiener gobbler. moronic purists like you getting blown out is the only silver lining to disney wars.
>you fricking lucas wiener gobbler
Imagine posting this in a SW thread.
Star Wars is over, Gagdeep.
Star Wars ended when Disney bought it so they could put it on the street like a 10 Rupee prostitute in Mumbai and have it turn no-condom tricks as fast and dirty as possible until it collapsed on itself and died in the gutter.
Attempting to critique people who actually like THE REAL AND LEGITIMATE star wars by virtue of respecting its creator and original storyteller, and asserting that this is somehow unimportant in your (brown) eyes because you can’t get enough cheap and worthless shit from the israelites at Yidsney that slap some paint on some washed up shitskin roastie and throw her in front of a greenscreen and add some CW tier trash effects from some Pajeet VFX firm where wearing shoes and using toilet paper is optional, only further demonstrates how utterly, completely, and permanently SW is DEAD.
You don’t like star wars. You like disney
The one has nothing I do with the other.
All these garbage shows are nothing more than a bastardization of a now long gone, and forever over, past concept.
Disney calling this utter and unequivocal shit “star wars” doesn’t make it Star Wars at all.
Dumb esl poster
kek
>den call him esl poster son of basterd bich benchod
>Pretty sure there were all kinds of Lovecraftian creatures living in space.
Who cares?
>PEW PEW PEW
>No sense of urgency,tension or danger
>Yep we're not sitting on a green screen set at all, no siree
Then I guess it's fair to criticize the 70s acting during the Exorgrorth sequence, right?
Because..?
Because a Mandalore with extensive training falls into the Sarlacc pit without even trying to get out?
>and this makes current year disney goyslop girlboss cringe kino trash into a quality program with captivating acting and set pieces
Why? Why do you persist thusly?
No one said it made it quality but it was always bad troony. You can't praise one and then shit on the other unless you always hated what it was.
>LE BUZZWORDS XD
Do you ever get tired of regurgitating memes made by south americans?
>soï wars is awesome guise XDD
>do you ever get tired of regurgitating the shill script taking points translated from hindi to almost-english
Lmao
>it’s not possible for something to be good and then it’s sold to someone else and it gets trashed and misused
Who stupid are you brown mongrels?
>STAR WARS IS MY LIFE
>b-but like also it's kind of lame right now don't you think xD
and what the frick does that have to do with the exogorth, acting, OR the disney tv show?
You have material proof that not only sub-space creatures exist in the SW universe, but they're also powerful enough to swallow a Mandalorian warrior full.
>this is bad
>but that’s actchuallly okay because other thing was arguably not great either
>now it’s not bad anymore
>because other thing
>fear not m’lady, muh 40 year old brown b***h with corny and actually funny on-accident costume, makeup and movements, I will defend the honor of this next ruined and butchered star wars installment
Wew
Shut up, Mike, the prequels were good.
Exactly! Such an immrsion breaker, the complete lack of fear of panic in Sabine and Ahsoka while they're being shot at and almost getting crushed.
If the car i was riding is getting shot at i would prefer my driver to remain calm and tacticool as a cucumber
You can be scared and also be physically cool as a cucumber.
A good actor could do this. See Gosling in drive or Harrison Ford in the original SW movies
I’m so fricking tired of girlbosses. Exhausted.
Give us a fricking break already
>inb4 but this show is called, and is about Ahsoka.
I know, of course. That doesn’t change what’s happened in EVERY other spin-off that Disney has shit-out and disgraced every star wars fan by creating and releasing. It’s always so fricking absurd. That niggress from Obi Wan is literally all you need to know to fully understand Kennedy/Feminism Wars since Disney destroyed the IP forever
why does it look so...bad? The cgi is shit, the lighting looks cheap and fake, the cinematography and camerawork sucks, didn't they spend a shitload on this?
>why does it look so...bad?
It doesn't.
wrong, it does
No.
yes, it does look bad
No, it doesn't. Sorry there's not enough shaky cam and random JJ Abrams snap zooms.
it does in fact look bad, it looks very fake and there is no sense of scale and also, you are gay
Show me some TV show that looks real and good with the right scale.
The Expanse
Raised by Wolves
Game of Thrones
Star Trek
Stargate
ok, now I now for sure you're trolling
yep, looks better, suck my dick aCHOKE(on my dick)a gay
did you accidentally mix your pictures? this looks like some gray, bland, desaturated slop with poorly composited shit in GIMP in the background
you're not exactly helping yourself to make a point...
>this looks like some gray, bland, desaturated slop with poorly composited shit in GIMP in the background
wow imagine that
>dark spaceship is dark
Am I supposed to believe this looks bad?
you're trying too hard
Exactly. This looks awful. Only Rogue One had nice effects work and cinematography. The rest of Disney Wars is visually abysmal.
What are you trying to tell here? This screencap alone has more colors that actually pop than this
shit
I have a full blown short hair fetish but Sabine looks terrible with that hair. Makes her look boyish and older at the same time.
She cut her hair? I didn't notice.
Sabine is also supposed to have stupid crazy colored hair that changes all the time.
Maybe they finally decided that "asian chick with colored hair" is a racist trope or some shit
Sabine became too inclusive to the point where they fricked up and created another Ramona Flowers that only lonely men will like.
I dunno she's boring now
she didn't even really have to be wholly original she was just interesting because she was different, no she's as you said, stock
She's definitely one of those characters that tries so hard to be original that it wraps back around to being stock
She's so original she had an extended, and very boring scene because her tummy was obscured, scene of her being Luke with a face mask trying to defend herself and failing because she's a loser on a hero's journey. Except she has no aspirations like Luke did.
She already helped overthrow the Empire, like Luke did.
Barely. Her character arc, just like Ahsoka's, is already long over. She helped try to free Mandalore and undo her crimes. Only to make it all way worse. She, Ahsoka, and the other Rebels characters utterly do not matter to the defeat of the Empire and played no real role in any of that. Luke did. Leia did. Han did. Chewie did. Obi-Wan did. R2 and C-3PO did. Not Sabine. Not Ahsoka. Not Ezra. Not Kanan. Not Zeb. Definitely not Hera or Chopper.
>Damage controlling so hard
raised by wolves is unironically good
until the last episode of the first season
Foundation
This is bait, right? The CG isn't great. The Prequels still look better than any of the modern Disney+ shows because they don't have a budget for shit. I mean, if we're being pedantic, then yeah Ahsoka is visually more polished than the literal dumpster fire that was Kenobi. But that's such an embarrassingly low bar that it hardly matters.
>The Prequels still look better
Lmao no they do not. ps2 level cutscenes in the phantom menace will always shut down this nostalgia cum dripping off your chin argument
>The Prequels still look better than any of the modern Disney+ shows
what was that in the stairs around 0:04
The world was rendering.
I never see a problem with this scene
Unlucky.
the prequels like like previz now from ten years ago
Complete rubbish.
There's a lot that can be said about how bad the sequels are, but they objectively look better. That's not a point of discussion.
They objectively don't. The cinematography, CGI, costumes, set design, props, choreography, writing, directing, and acting in the Disney Wars movies and shows are all significantly worse than the prequels. Disney trash all look like rancid cat puke.
These aren’t the sequels (whose visuals are their only positive quality). Every Disney Wars show looks like washed-out trash
Sci fi should only be movies imo, tv is too cheap
>Moggs all 9 Star Wars movies and shows.
Oh, you're the gay from the other thread? I just looked at your videos. It's literally some old and fat ladies in chairs talking. This is boring and looks like crap.
>Oh, you're the gay from the other thread?
What thread?
Because Disney are extreme cheapskates that cut costs on everything. Especially their very cheap, outsourced CGI.
This. I worked on the ABC lot before. You can tell everything is held together with fricking tape. Extremely unprofessional, everyone is stressed out and an butthole to eachother, everything looks cheap.
Story time?
Yeah I worked on Blackish as BG which was a two tiered system where the all black upper echelon of the crew and cast didn't acknowledge anyone else on set as a human being. The lower crew members were fricking wienersuckers who treated us like shit and tried to prevent us from even going to crafty. Not like because a take was coming up, just all together. 5am shoot and they didn't let us get breakfast. We were treated so bad we called SAG at lunch and some people walked off. Disney sucks fricking wiener and everyone who works for them is a piece of shit. I stopped accepting word for Blackish even though it was one of the few consistent gigs at the time and we had a lot of half days there (you get paid a full 8 even if you get sent home early)
Also, what is a BG? the boss gaffer or something? Most of us are film-making illiterate.
Big Gay
Background. Though I did stand in work there a few times also. I'm former military so I didn't mind background work back then and a lot of BG artists deserve to get shit on for being incompetent fricks, but we were all SAG on that occasion and that does actually weed out the shit heads, so the treatment was unwarranted and outright breaching contract at points
Oh I also worked a few times at the Manhatten beach lot when they were filming Avatar 2 and one of the Star Wars Sequel films. Much more legit production stages but I'm pretty sure that's where they built their big shitty circle stage that they film everything on now. They built that because they're cheap and fricking lazy and nobody in Hollywood wants to film on location anymore. They just want to show up, sit on a chair, and have lighting and post do all the work. That's why all these shows look like shit.
>Manhatten beach lot when they were filming Avatar 2
What was that like? Cameron has a reputation for driving people hard, but not being an butthole about it.
Don't know. Didn't work on it. Was super under wraps at the time. They didn't really need many outsiders on set either. I think most of the non main cast were stunt and map professionals. It was all just whispers around the lot of big shit happening there.
>Map professionals
Mocap*
So Yidsney is toxic. Not surprising. What are some of the *good* studios to work for?
All of the cop shows are awesome. Lots of ex LEO and really professional, reliable people. Insufferable diversity hires are at the minimum and it's just more down to earth people. Fox and WB are awesome lots also. Fox is usually long, hard days but the food is great and it has old-school Hollywood vibes. The lot itself is a treasure trove of Hollywood history. Most of my friends and big career steps were made on the Fox lot (note i left Hollywood before Covid times due most of the work leaving for Georgia tho). WB is pretty much the lot you imagine from the movies. Everyone is pretty laid back and the shows are usually easy, with decent chances at getting short days. Always met girls at the WB lot. Being on set is such a good way to meet people. Paramount lot is fricking ghetto as shit lmao
>note i left Hollywood before Covid times due most of the work leaving for Georgia tho
fyi they're tearing down warner ranch to just make a giant CGI sound stage, so, feel free to get super pissed about that.
For anyone here that doesn't know what warner ranch is, it's a separate outdoor lot from the main WB water tower lot. Wanda Vision was the last thing shot there before the tear down. 100 years of history on that lot including animation, vid below if you care.
Why are they flying those cheap ass fighters? Shouldn't they have something better than hired guns if they are on a mission to find Thrawn?
They are underdogs and their overall vibe is quite archaic. All the money went into the giant hyperspace ring.
THEY FLY NOW?
Look, I really need to frick Shin. Why did this b***h have to become an actress and not live out her destiny as a Ukrainian prostitute? It's just not natural.
this was exponentially more kino
This is just random CGI effect. Honestly pretty boring and inferior set piece.
>This is just random CGI effect.
As opposed to..?
As opposed to some Nolan non CGI nonsense like the bazillion dollar effects Nolan made for Oppenheimer. That's probably what they mean.
As opposed to a herd of majestic living creatures that is more interesting as a dogfight setpiece than some random firestorm shit that clogs up the entire screen.
>MUH TRANDOR
>MUH BLANDOR
>MUH AK
>MUH NUWARS
That was a good heist story even if it wasn't Star Wars. Makes sense the Bourne Identity guy made that show.
The absolute lack of fear or panic on Sabine while shes almost continually dying is so immersion breaking for me.
Shes being shot at while coming inches from being crushed.
YASSS GIRL SLAYYYY
Isn't she a wienery smug c**t in Rebels too? This is tolerable considering the Sabine hate I've read over the years
A good actor could portray complex emotions like being emotionally afraid but also physically cool as a cucumber.
The Sabine actor is absolutely not it.
You are right! They should have taken cues from the brilliant directing of the ST and exquisite acting of John Boyega and Daisy Ridley.
She's a trained mandalorian bounty hunter AND ex-imperial AND jedi apprentice with a long history of feats in combat. Do you want to see boba fett trembling in fear during battle as well?
Training doesnt make the fear go away. Just makes you able to function while afraid.
A semi-decent actor could have portrayed that.
She’s super experienced in this sort of shit by now. Much more than Han and Leia in TESB or even the average Jedi in the prequel era. The Purrgill aren’t even new to her.
I cant help you if you cant tell shitty acting
Don't bring up Solo and the Kessel run to try and defend your point. That shit was terrible.
That must be the most boring chase scene I've ever seen.
>grey spaceship against grey whale against grey clouds against grey sky
Kinda makes you appreciate the Fast franchise. Same level of moronation but at least they are far more competent action scene wise.
Why is the Demon's Souls guy flying in Star Wars?
Star Wars is still kino
Always has been
The good definitely out weighs the bad. I just want the ST and Disney to go away.
Star Wars is gayer that two gays sucking each others dicks at a Liberace concert in Sodom.
that's still straighter than most of california
You would know troon
No. Star Wars *was* kino. Before Disney. It was kino for decades with no bad movies, books, games, comics, or shows. But in the past decade of Disney ownership, it has had zero kino. It is dead. And you should join it.
>with no bad movies, books, games, comics, or shows.
lol
If they're going to miss every single shot at least don't have the fighters flying 50 feet behind the other craft.
>copying Futurama
>ignoring futurama was paying tribute to Moby Dick
you fricking illiterate gringo piece of shit.
Those homies fight with lasers instead of shutting each other, why is a space whale out of the realm of possibility?
Veitch is really underrated tbqh
Very
>Was there anything like this in the E.U?
What, like life-forms that can live in outer space? I mean yes, probably, but why go to the E.U. when you have Episode V?
What did he eat?
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Exogorth/Legends#Biology
>Although their primary diet, similar to mynocks, was passive radiation, they did tend to chomp on rocks and metal as well.
What was his tax policy?
op as always, completely and utterly btfo
weird worm thing in an asteroid is not comparable to literal whales (they fly now)
frick star wars
WHY ARE THE WHALES FLYING IN AN ATMOSPHERE??? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? IT ISNT. WHALES IN SPACE I CAN BELEIVE, BUT NOT THIS.
>WHY ARE THE WHALES FLYING IN AN ATMOSPHERE??? HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? IT ISNT. WHALES IN SPACE I CAN BELEIVE, BUT NOT THIS.
With their blow holes?
Yes. And farting gives them propulsion in-atmosphere. All that space plankton generates a lot of gas. In fact, sometimes a pod of space whales in a mating frenzy can be mistaken for a gas giant.
Hey kid, it ain't that kind of movie.
the force
As far as what makes Ahsoka and Nu-Wars awful, space whales are fairly far down the list.
unironically the whales are the least objectionable thing about this
Pilot, ask Moya if she's ever seen a space whale
She is one
Also budongs
I have no idea what the frick is going on in this show
Filoni. This was created years after Disney took over
>after
Don't you mean before the buyout?
No. After. Rebels is from 2014, and the space whales showed up in the final season in 2018. It was all Filoni, Lucas was not involved.
Lucas was not involved with *these specific* space whales. But giant flying things capable of living in outer space has been a part of Star Wars since 1979 with Empire Strikes Back, if not earlier (dunno if anything showed up in the comics or novels released between ANH and Empire).
The giant asteroid work in Empire Strikes Back is not the same as these hyperspace traveling whales. This nonsense was all Filoni.
>The giant asteroid work in Empire Strikes Back is not the same as these hyperspace traveling whales
Source: your ass.
No. The whales are not the same creature. Dumb FiloBlack person shill
>The whales are not the same creature
This is the gaygiest and weakest cope I've seen ITT.
Wait, you think the filoni whales we see are the same creature than in the empire strikes back? Are you blind?
That's not remotely what he said you fricking moron.
Why not?
The worm is an Exogorth. The whales are Purrgil. Dumb samehomosexual.
This is just pure delusion. Disney's trash CGI is PS2 quality, the prequels look like PS5 by comparison.
>the prequels look like PS5 by comparison
As a kid I thought the dart had made her change the race, like some kind of mutagen.
It really makes no sense than an assasin could shape-shift and not use that for his advantage, Lucas was such an idiot.
Literally what did this scene accomplish?
Imagine if she had morphed into anakin in order to attack obiwan, that could've worked but nope. She just transforms to be a women.
She wasn't originally supposed to be a shapeshifter. It was a last minute change, but the script was not rewritten other than stating that she is a "shapeshifter." It bears no importance to the plot whatsoever and looks bad.
That scene has a lot of funny shit going on.
>x is scrimblo. y is the wrongler. you wouldn't understand.
You're right, I wouldn't even try to understand this goyslop directed at impressionable children.
It's a Macross 7 thing, you wouldn't understand.
why can't they just spell the names of their towns correctly
Space/Sky Whales are a classic sci-fi cliche, see them in a bunch of shit
Feloni didn't even design the space whales to look like an actual creature that lives in space. He just moronicly took whales and put them in space. god damn it, why do idiots always get control of kino and ruin it
Have any of you watched Star Wars? There have been creatures living in space since ESB.
In tales of the jedi there's a dark side witch making visions of space gazers to scare a republic fleet.
They are more lovecraftian than just space whales or filoni big wolfs or solo giant space mantas.
Those designs are too earth like imo
>They are more lovecraftian than just space whales or filoni big wolfs or solo giant space mantas.
Uh, what? They look exactly like the creatures we see in episode three.
I don't understand what you are saying, what does look like what?
I'm saying the space grazers in tales of the jedi looked more otherworldy than just space whales we saw in rebels and now in ashoka
>what does look like what?
Oh, you're homosexual baiting. Never mind.
How does the image I posted look like the ones in ashoka??
Literally the same slop.
Dude, kys, really, I'm not joking about it, do me the favour
Don't cry, homosexual. Just remember: you life isn't worth dick.
At least I can see
What a homosexual comeback.
Also looks like shit and rightfully was never out into a movie
if they're going to leave the galaxy does this introduce the yuzan vong?
They are now called Grysk and practically even closer to Dark Eldar than original wongs since they are feeding on dark side of the force.
Tiyanki
Venerable...
GOOD JOB FILONI!
>Was there anything like this in the E.U?
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Space-borne_creatures
there's a lot dummer things in filonis shit than space whales to be honest..like the laziest worst writing in history
And upside down WWII planes for the low level henchmen. If it weren't for the tail fin being included on the underside of the SPACECRAFT then it wouldn't have been entirely stupid. Just mostly.
It's annoying that Ashoka's ... Whatever the frick it's supposed to be... can outrun multiple fighters, out dance multiple fighters, and only has a tailgun.
And what the frick is with the flipping wing. It makes no fricking sense at all and just switches back and forth every time it makes an appearance.
She's inmortal, this is a shoehorned character that filloni could not let go.
She should've died fighting vader.
Better yet, she should've been the togruta that starkiller kills in felucia in the the force unleashed, instead of shaak ti.
Space whales are an extremely common sci-fi trope, moron.
>get trapped in new galaxy
>at the end of the series when they get back to the Star Wars galaxy 1000 years have passed
It will be that but I would rather they just erase the ST instead of that.
NOW I CAN SEE THE WHAAAALES
LONLEY OUT ON THE TIIIIIDE
When will my mommywife be making an appearance?
no one knows what this is
no one cares
no one is watching this
Filoni Wars is so fricking embarrassing bros I can't...
Windwhales from Black Company.
Whales and jellyfish are the most common "space animals" in science fiction. How is it any weirder than the space worm from the OT?
What do they eat
Space plankton, as was earlier explained. Which generates the gas they use to propel themselves through the atmosphere.
BLOOOOOP OOOPOOOOP
BLURRRRGGHHH URGGHHHH
*fart*
>What do they eat
space brine
Brine is salt water, anon. It would boil away in space.
>the food is great
Interesting. All the really good IT companies I contracted with -- Oracle and HP at the top -- had really, really good food. As in multiple themed cafes with professional chefs.
I mean it was craft service food, but the catering they did for lunch just always hit the spot. Maybe it's just the long hours I did there that made it tastier.
Redpill me on Space Welshmen
>franchise has had giant monsters since 1980
>it's somehow now a bad thing
>prequelshit
>prequelshit
>prequelshit
>iconic, played as a joke
>cartoonshit
>cartoonshit
>cartoonshit
>nuwars
>nuwars
t. sad pathetic manchildren who hate fun
lost my file of ROTJ and didn't have a screencap handy. trying honestly to track down a higher res copy than I had
Here's your fun bro
>prequelshit
>nuwars
I think this says a lot about the kind of person who complains religiously about disney star wars
Notice that all the worst examples on your picrel are Filoni
It's been bad in cartoons, it's bad in show made by cartoon-maker
>since 1980
There was a giant tentacle monster living in the death star trash compactor in the original
..even though the death star was brand new. was it a stormtrooper's fricking pet that got too big or something? Please don't answer me if there's a novel length wookiepedia article about its origin and biology.
In Disney canon it was a Force-sensitive thingie that let Luke go once it sensed the Force in him. Or something like that. I swear I'm not making this up. It's in one of their execrable books.
That is the first thing I have ever read about Disney's EU that sounded like it could have come from the old EU.
It came from the anniversary book for ANH, the "From A Certain Point of View" ones they've been doing with a bunch of short stories set during the film, sometimes being retellings of scenes from the movies. not necessarily canon just fun stories.
LEGENDS
>One dianoga was known to have boarded the first Death Star, and made its home in one of the space station's garbage compactors. When Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Chewbacca, and Leia Organa, during the rescue of Leia, were forced into the trash compactor, the dianoga attacked Skywalker. It pulled the young farmboy under the murky, polluted water, but was scared away when the compactor walls activated. The dianoga itself had managed to burrow into the wall, and so was relatively safe inside the compactor; that is, until the Death Star was destroyed.
DISNEY
>During the trade wars, the collector Dok-Ondar offered to pay crime lord Jabba the Hutt double if he threw in Ki-Adi-Mundi's lightsaber with the dianoga pup he was selling to him.[10] At some point before the Battle of Yavin[1] in 0 BBY,[11] a female dianoga named Omi was captured by Vodrans, who handed her to members of the Empire en route to their new Death Star battle station. She was dumped into the Death Star's garbage masher 3263827, where she would feed on the organic materials that occasionally fell in.[1] During the rescue of Leia Organa, Luke Skywalker first realized something was alive in the garbage compactor, but shortly after his realization, Omi dragged Skywalker underwater. Han Solo, Chewbacca, and Organa were unable to locate him, but the dianoga released him just before the walls began to close.
I think it's cool and the Anons b***hing about the monsters are dumb.
The space worm was a literal living set piece. Very iconic and creative, more so than just a giant monster.
The sea monsters are very on brand for Star Wars, which is inspired by the old serials. In fact Episode I is very star wars in the sense that it takes a lot from the classic movies like Ben Hur and 20,000 Leagues. Underappreciated for that.
The Spider is a callback to Ralph McQuarrie art and is honestly just a good visual.
Filoni shit is just MMORPG boss goyslop
>no rancor
These are what you came up with as examples?
It's not that they are giant alien monsters. That's always been a really cool thing about Star Wars to me, I love that aspect. The problem is the way these ones are used. Filoni doesn't just put cool creatures in like George Lucas. He makes them magical deus ex machina horse shit that break lore or impact the plot in dumb ways. These whales use the force to travel through hyperspace and Ezra summoned them telepathically like Aquaman to destroy an Imperial fleet once. They are in this show because Ahsoka needs their help to find Ezra. Same thing with Filoni's alien wolves that I'd bet show up in this series later, they use the force to teleport and time travel. It's really stupid stuff and counter to everything Lucas was doing. If these were just big alien whales that lived in space and nothing more, it wouldn't be an issue.
This. If they just had to fly through a giant herd of space whales to dodge enemy ships, it would be a cool set piece aesthetic. Aside from the bad camera work I do like the visuals of it. Unfortunately, as we all know, that's not what the whales are. Remember the mantarays flying around in the distance in KOTOR? That was a great set dressing to make the otherwise earthly Dantooine more alien. Now imagine if KOTOR came out and said that those Mantarays come down and lay eggs every century and that's where lightsaber crystals come from. That's Filoni Wars. It's the worst aspects of the prequels on roids.
don't mind me just posting best theme you've ever heard
>Kamino
>The Cooler Kamino
>He makes them magical deus ex machina horse shit that break lore or impact the plot in dumb ways.
How do the purrgil "break lore"? How are they deus ex machina? And how do they "impact the plot in dumb ways"?
>These whales use the force to travel through hyperspace and Ezra summoned them telepathically like Aquaman to destroy an Imperial fleet once.
They don't use the force to travel through hyperspace, they consume a gas that is also used to make hyperdrive fuel. They just have a natural mechanism of travelling hyperspace. And Ezra doesn't summon them telepathically, he has some of his allies send out a signal at a frequency that the Purrgil respond to and draws them to Lothal. Once they're there he then DOES use the Force himself to connect with the Purrgil(beast tame is a long-established force ability and is one that has been set up as an ability for Ezra since Season 1) and use them to take away Thrawn and his fleet. Given how big they are it's only logical that they can cause a lot of damage to imperial ships, the same way whales in our own ocean can damage boats of similar size to themselves.
>They are in this show because Ahsoka needs their help to find Ezra.
They're in this series because they're tied to this hyperspace lane to another galaxy and because they took Thrawn and Ezra to this other galaxy. I don't know why you're acting like it's weird that they'd appear.
>with Filoni's alien wolves that I'd bet show up in this series later, they use the force to teleport and time travel
They do use the force to travel hyperspace, but they don't time travel.
>Remember the mantarays flying around in the distance in KOTOR?
Remember how KOTOR also had a super special shark that was the ancestor of the Selkaths and the sharks on Manaan, and said super special giant shark was the reason the Selkath and sharks were going mad near an undersea base? No different than this supposed "Filoni Wars" horseshit you're having an aneurysm about
Shut the frick up shill. Nothing in your post is valid.
>No different than this supposed "Filoni Wars" horseshit
If it was Filoni Selkath sharks would've had some power to generate waves and they would've overthrown the Sith presence on Manaan after listening to some corny speech about power of friendship
The Disney shills have arrived!
>they don't parrot my blind fandom menace hatred therefore they're a shill!
take your meds, schizo
always a bigger fish
>Was there anything like this in the E.U?
Yes, search Oswaft
Also I don't think Space Whale itself is that silly, given gargantuan outer space creatures already existed in ESB
Prefer the giant space wasps that were converted into ships.
>Was there anything like this in the E.U?
There was stuff like it in Empire Strikes Back.
Wales like the country?
>Was there anything like this in the E.U?
Yup. Going back a long way.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Oswaft
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Colossus_wasp
Budong
Why did they change their original look so much?
I think the ones from the earlier episode of Rebels are meant to be younger/juvenile members of the species, while the ones from the Rebels finale/Mando/Ahsoka are adults/older members. The Wook seems to think they're a separate subspecies all because the concept art calls the bigger ones "Purrgil Ultra".
>Purrgil were a species of whales that lived in space. While regular purrgil were only the size of a small starship,[7] members of a subspecies known as Purrgil Ultra[3] were significantly larger,[7] reaching half of the length of an Imperial-class Star Destroyer.[3] On average, they reached a height of 5.5 meters, or 18 feet, and a length of 30 meters, or 98 feet,[4] purrgil had streamlined, torpedo-shaped bodies and bulbous heads with two cloudy, blue eyes placed on the sides of it.[5] They had four large hind tentacles, a single dorsal fin, two side fins, a ventral fin, and an anal fin all of which allowed them to move gracefully across the vacuum of space.[8] The skin of purrgil was smooth-looking, and a bluish-purple color with gray and yellow portions. Their large mouths were filled with egg-shaped teeth that were irregularly spaced and varied in size. Some specimens had slender, whisker-like organs underneath their mouth.[5] Purrgil Ultra had a larger amount of these whisker-like organs and more distinctive protrusions on top of their head.[7] Purrgil also had a brain.[9]
>In order to breathe, purrgil needed to inhale stores of a green gas, Clouzon-36.[8] When they were not provided with enough of the gas, their skin turned to a gray to brownish color.[5] Once sufficiently provided with the Clouzon-36,[8] they metabolized it into hypermatter fuel and therefore were able to jump into hyperspace,[10] an alternate dimension that allowed traveling at lightspeed,[11] by creating simu-tunnels.[12] When they were about to jump into hyperspace, their tentacles started glowing.[7]
there's no fricking way an imperial star destroyer is 60 meters. They have a 20K crew compliment on average.
It's the Purrgil Ultra that's as big as an ISD not the normal purgle.
oh, my bad
The measurements from that quote are for the smaller purrgil from the first time they appeared(that were also sparingly seen in the Rebels finale among the larger ones), not the larger ones that are ISD-sized or larger.
Epitome of Deus ex machina
what this does is try and explain why Thrawn was missing from the original trilogy and try and set up Thrawn trilogy
things get, uh, pretty tight
Good, frick the Republic
so is radar or some equivalent just not a thing or what
They do have radar/some kind of equivalent. Moments before that webm, one of the nameless techs goes "Sir multiple unidentified objects emerged from hyperspace in orbit". Thrawn asks for Captain Pellaeon, who's aboard one of the other ISDs in orbit. He briefly says something about creatures coming out of hyperspace unlike anything he's seen before the transmission cuts off. Then the webm happens.
>ISD falling on a city
you'd think the morally squeaky clean rebels crew would take collateral damage into account
redid this one with VP9
I will at least admit that that's amusing, yeh
What tactical advantage do space whales have over starships?
In the case of the Rebels finale, surprise. The Purrgil are not something you'd expect to suddenly emerge from hyperspace, kidnap an entire Imperial fleet, and then attack the remaining ISDs that were in-atmosphere. They also are heavily armored with thick skin and spikes.
Do you not understand what deus ex machina means? Something that was already established coming back later on in a story is, by definition, not a deus ex machina.
>The Purrgil are not something you'd expect to suddenly emerge from hyperspace, kidnap an entire Imperial fleet, and then attack the remaining ISDs that were in-atmosphere. They also are heavily armored with thick skin and spikes.
They're also made of squishy stuff, have no ranged attacks, can't outrun thrusters, and can feel pain. I would think a tactical mastermind like Thrawn would be able to easily deal with it.
Their squishy bits are still very durable. Thick skin. They don't need ranged attacks because they can just ram stuff. And actually can outrun thrusters because we literally see them use speed to destroy TIEs
Thrawn simply didn't have enough time to react. He went from discovering his whole fleet had been destroyed to the Purrgil ambushing and attacking, and then kidnapping him and his ship and Ezra
>Do you not understand what deus ex machina means?
>In the case of the Rebels finale, surprise.
So is Order 66 a deus ex machina because the Jedi didn't expect it? Is Vader turning back to the light side a deus ex machina because the Emperor didn't expect it?
No. Because they have setup, just like the purrgil. Deus ex machina is surprise without setup that resolves a conflict. Like superman turning back time to save Lois Lane.
>. Because they have setup, just like the purrgil.
Nice damage control Dave
>Space Whales
Everytime this trope turns up I listen to From Sirius to Mars when I lift for a month
>helmet only
how they breathing?
Its a planetoid in an asteroid belt with an atmosphere, I think the helmets were mostly to filter out the Clouzon-36 gas, which is refined into hyperdrive fuel. That or sci fi helmet has sci-fi ability to allow you to breath, a wizard did it.
Yeah he's fine he's just taking a nap
In what way, shape, or form? The series had multiple episodes about Ezra learning to connect to animals using the Force. The purrigl were established in a previous episode of the show as something Ezra had a close connection to. And in the finale, we specifically see two characters follow orders from Ezra to broadcast on a frequency that's no longer used, and it calls the Purrgil there because it's at a range they can hear.
oh, ok makes sense
>In what way, shape, or form?
In every way or form, my dear Cinemaphilemrade
As I said though, they aren't deus ex machina. The purrgil were introduced in a previous episode of the show, and so was Ezra's connection to them and his ability to connect with animals. We see see Kanan teaching him way back in Season 1 and further seasons continue to establish that ability. And earlier in the finale three of Ezra's allies go off on a "secret mission" that Ezra sent them on as a backup plan, which turns out to be calling the Purrgil. There's no deus ex machina about any of it.
>The purrgil were introduced in a previous episode
nuff said
is he gonna be alright?
Just make the ST non canon already, literally no one likes it
>somehow Ahsoka's time frickery caused the ST to happen in a different time line
Not a single living person would have a problem with that
I kinda wish they would shut up about Ezra at this point. It's reaching "when poochie is not on screen all the others characters should be asking where's poochie" territory. I never watched the cartoon tho.
I mean he's essential to this upcoming storyline as he's the one who took Thrawn off the playing field for the GCW. And the characters we're following were close with him. No different than Thrawn being brought up a bunch.
I think it would find the Thrawn stuff annoying too if it wasn't for Thrawn teasing becoming a meme. It's amusing watching the characters get wound up at the word "Thrawn" just like people do on the internet.
Who is this guy? Galen Marek?
Probably the first Knight of Ren. He has an inquisitor Lightsaber, but his armor is decidedly different and more similar to those failures.
It's Ezra. The show is leaning heavily into King Arthur mythology.
>Morgan Elsbeth (witch)=Morgan la Fey (witch)
>Marrok=Sir Marrok
>Sir Marrok is turned into a werewolf or a wolf by Morgan and forgets who he is while doing her bidding
It definitely makes sense dramatically. We see this nameless guy and Ezra is constantly mentioned without being seen. I just don't know if they would be willing to piss off the adult cartoon fans.