>spawn gets completely fricked over by everyone he knows
>he still refuses to kill them for some reason
why does spawn keep refusing? violator was right about everything
he clearly has no qualms about killing people either
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Isn't Violator far stronger than him?
yes
i'm not sure why malbolgia insists on having him kill everyone when violator can just do it himself
writing oversight most likely
Malebogia is training Spawn up.
i think it has to do with both heaven and hell not allowed to just send demons and angels and instead having to work through agents like Spawn and the Redeemer. otherwise demons could just appear in nuke bases and frick shit up, it has to be by human hands
>it has to be by human hands
how does spawn still qualify as human?
https://www.adultswim.com/videos/robot-chicken/spawn-went-down-to-georgia
probably because he was human. so Malebolgia has to use sinners as his best shot as Violator conning humans only got him so far.
Not always
I movie violator was. In early comics Violator was on par with Spawn, and often Violator was a bit stronger than hellspawns at first cause he was meant to be a training stepping stone. Its shown on the medival story how Violator thought he could frick with the current hellspawn and win the commanding position he wanted, but after barely been defeated he realized he did exactly what Malbogia wanted basically getting played.
Then again I only read early spawn so for the last 500+ issues of spawn Violator could have gotten a power boost.
>Violator was a bit stronger than hellspawns at first cause he was meant to be a training stepping stone
that's why I thought he was supposed to be stronger
Why did they try and make him sympathetic in his first few episodes and then a straight up villain for the rest of the series?
I think they were just trying to show this was Al's fate if he was allowed to live, that he never have a happy ending.
somewhat
Wasn't it just a case of contrarian "I am not your puppet I won't do as you say"
the animation used some really good color palettes
90s cartoons have great color palettes
modern palettes are way too saturated and pastel looking for my taste
Twitch was such a cool dude.
hitler stache = insta cool
indeed
I am eternally assmad that Angela only got a cameo and never got to fight Spawn. Now poor kids have to grow up in a world where this babe is just another crappy Marvel character instead.
Imo it's a shame Jade is an animation-only character
yeah what the frick was up with that? she disappeared after one episode and then got replaced by an OC?
Because she was created by Neil Gaiman who blew a gasket over how he wasn't getting his deserved royalties. They just avoided that entirely by creating an Angel OC for season three instead.
Gaiman only writer who did this for his creations, Moore and Morrison didn't care.
Basically a work for hire job anyways, Gaiman a b***h, it's not HIS book.
I think by then Gaiman started crying about not getting enough money for his action figures(which then fricked up guys who didn't have prose book deals and sweetheart deals with the big two in the future.)
Image was founded on "creator's rights" and it was good that Todd was forced to live up to the contract he drew up even if Neil didn't really need the money. It's all about the principle.
Except the "small" potatoes Gaiman was crying about was decent windfalls to everyone else.It fricked things up for everyone afterwords. Gaiman wanted to get paid in 98 as if it was still 91 and Image was selling in the millions,and his complaint was based around "Well DC pays me more"
It's like if you have a restaurant that pays under the table and everyone is happy, then some trust fund kiddie gets a job and starts making a big stink about pay not being on the books and fricks everyone over.
t. have actually spoken to artists at cons
A really expensive lesson to McFarlane on contract law. He drew up a bad one, that's on him. He was still obligated to live up to it.
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Mr screenshot taker if you savvy enough to make gifs, I really need one where Spawn is looking through the window getting sad at Wanda fricking her new husband. Its fricking hilarious
I'll have to download the series again, do you remember which episode it was?
Sorry nah, most likely first season but not 100% sure which eps.
Don't worry bout it
this any good?
>filename
do you think he secretly enjoys it?
Spawn seems like the type to jerk off and cry in his spare time
Sex with Spawn's wife.
>>he still refuses to kill them for some reason
This was such a bizarre change, especially considering how notable Spawn killing Billy was in Spawn's early issues. The cartoon gets a lot of praise for streamlining things, but it also added some bizarre changes.
Animated Spawn didn't kill Billy because he realized that's what Mal wanted. Clown had to finish him off. Todd McFarlane isn't a good writer, the people he hired to do the cartoon improved on it.
>If you kill the multiple child killer/rapist you're just as bad as he is!
There's no way to make this seem reasonable. If it was another black ops military guy like Al who has the dubious distinction of doing it as a job, sure, maybe. But Billy Kincaid deserved it. Even the writers knew that which is why Violator kills him.
You misunderstand. Billy being killed by a Spawn opens up agreements that he can be used as a force in hell's armies against heaven. He was groomed (ha!) into becoming a general. With him being spared in the TV show it removes that possibility, worse still Billy will now be left to authorities and will likely be medicated and kept alive in a very dower environment, weakening his hellish potential. Hence "what a fricking waste"
It's more of
>If you kill him he'll become just like you, literally.
The Spawn Universe has some weird reverse Highlander rules.
I mean I get it on some level but most things aren't explained so you don't understand the rules of power. Like wouldn't someone like genghis khan be top spawn? Like get the old spawn probably killed them I also get regardless of being a hell spawn hell can't take away free will. Billy was evil but like he wasn't a fighter or anything so why bother recruiting him. Does evil translate to power? Is it some sin points deal that made him and Al desirable?
According to that anon the logic would be that Khan, as someone who died from a long illness after falling off a horse, would be considered "redeemed" and not at the height of his power and thus not eligible--which is fricking stupid.
To build off of things, Al understood that killing him was just growing an army and being part of the intended plan, it also left Billy in limbo of what he could become, while the chances of him being redeemed were nonexistent him broken in a way where he be no value to hell was still a real possibility, hence why Violator was so sour about it and killed Billy anyway.
No matter how much you try to justify it it's still stupid.
I'm not saying Todd is a brilliant writer by any means, but killing Kincaid was a cathartic moment that served to show that Spawn wasn't limited by Big Two standards. The fact that Todd would completely lose the plot and that aspect just a couple years later doesn't change that.
>Hell won't take him because he stopped child rape-murdering after getting arrested
How is this even meant to work? Is he still going to be drugged in hell? Does he need to kill more? He was already far more sadistic than Al was in life, given the fact that he FRICKING KILLED CHILDREN REGULARLY, OUT OF HIS OWN DESIRE.
Spawn can only win by redeeming his enemies, not making Hell's army stronger. In the comic they actually show Kincaid turning into another Spawn.
why wouldn't spawn want to kill him a second time?
Wouldn't you rather the child rapist just die a broken mess that has no power or risk of hurting others?
>Spawn can only win by redeeming his enemies,
Lol how is heavily drugging up a nonce "redemption?". He's not redeemed, he's just a few missed medications away from doing it again. His redemption doesn't come from his own choice.
> In the comic they actually show Kincaid turning into another Spawn.
Spawn is theoretically gonna end up fighting a lot of other Spawns, what's one more?
>oh but then he's gonna make a billion spawns think of that!?;^)
Then he should find a way to get strong enough to defeat them all again.
This is stupid, convoluted writing though. Why don't they keep their talents after death if they stop killing for a while? They didn't repent. The hell body is a whole new body.
I'd rather my tax money not keep him alive.
>Why don't they keep their talents after death if they stop killing for a while?
Same reason a guitarist can't play as good if he hangs up the axe for several years.
a guitarist will remember his experience and the basic concepts of music throughout his life unless he develops amnesia or something
>unless he develops amnesia or something
And that is what happens when you die in the Spawn world. remember Al only had fragments of his old life.
Billy only had fragments after he died, it's why the demon took the form of a small girl and had Billy play hero at first, he needed to make sure his sick urges were still there.
Kill some evil bastard at the peak of their cruelty, they keep all those talents after death, kill them once they are past their prime, and they have little to offer. The cosmos has rules that won't let Angels and Demons the allowance to just kill humans at their peak so they have to use humanity as the middle man of it all but with consent of the human, Al was the chosen middle man as he did enough hellish deeds to become a Spawn but naive enough that they were putting him on the stage to remove "villains" at their peak as a means to grow bigger armies, it's one of the reasons why Violator doesn't like Al in the comics.
Don’t listen to this anon
and his head canon he didn’t kill Billy because he knew mercilessly executing a guy who posed no threat and was a tit hair away from getting arrested is exactly what Hell wanted. The whole point of the season was “will Al fall into old habits and become a puppet of hell or break the cycle of violence and work towards regaining his humanity”. It’s a more adult take on the concept than “good guy kill bad guy who hurt kids”
All these years and I never watched this show for some reason, I've know it forever. I have always hated how dark the show looks are like you can barely make out what you're looking at in some scenes.
>I have always hated how dark the show looks are like you can barely make out what you're looking at in some scenes.
that's called kino
Yeah nothing says kino like not knowing what the frick is going on in some scenes, you can do solid black shading and it be easy to make out look at Black Dynamite.
None of the scenes are actually so dark you have no idea what’s going on, maybe a few screenshots you’ve seen were but watch the actual show for context and it’s fine.
The highlight of Spawn TAS is Clown. Michael Nicolosi did a fantastic job and steals the show. That being said, it's still Spawn, so any merit off the show is wasted because Todd can't write to save his life.
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Not just that, but the show is pretty slow because they had a budget to work with. Longest three minutes of my life.
The Maxx is still the best Image related cartoon.
The choppy editing, the nonstop music when it should be silent, the really good voice acting mixed with questionable voice acting, yep this is peak 90's animation.
It's funny how edgy the cartoon is while the comic never really push it's self that far like it's slightly more violent than an big two comic without an mature readers label but hell those mature readers comics are more edgy than any Spawn.
Yeah the producers of the cartoon ran with the HBO adult rating without stopping to realize if the cartoon really needed it. And it didn't because the original was already dumb and edgy.
>Not just that, but the show is pretty slow because they had a budget to work with
Kinda crazy to remember that this is HBO in the early days of the Sopranos, before it became the channel capable of producing Rome or GoT
"re"-watching Oz(I say this because I didn't exactly follow it the first time since I was too young) I was amused to find how low budget it felt, not just production but editing and all. It feels borderline like a public access show.
No kidding. I was rewatching the Wire a few days ago and at times it looked like any other episode of Law and Order.
Eric Radomski innovated on Batman The Animated Series by drawing the backgrounds on black paper and he wanted Spawn to be even darker. It also helps budget-wise.
If Spawn Kills people, don't they just end up in Hell with a vendetta against Spawn, under the authority of people who want to frick Spawn over? Wouldn't killing people just increase a social network of people with a grudge against Spawn after they all end up in the same place?
Yeah, likely why an anon said reverse Highlander, you are making every motherfricker that's goal is to kill you and everything you care about.
Spawn is one the most visually cool but most poorly written things in capeshit.
i think HBO violator salvages it quite well
funniest mfer ever created
https://www.youtube.com/@DailySpawnArchive/videos
cool channel I found looking up Spawn shit.
>rewatch Spawn
>that corny ass voice over about the upcoming Hell and Heaven war
This is so dumb.
Todd McFarlane's Rod Sterling impression is fricking hilarious
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