So, um, why does Cinemaphile still hate Dan Slott? His new book is good and funny. Probably the best thing Marvel has published this year. I hope they won't kill this chatacter anytime soon.
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This book is awful. I say this as the anon that once said “his FF is the only worthwhile comic marvel is making” which lead to some autist storytiming every comic he’s ever made rather than just FF. Slott can’t write kids and it’s just cutesy nonsense. He hoped he could appeal to Jon fans but we just want DC to de-age Jon and make him straight and less lame.
Bailey sucks.
Jon was always lame. I enjoy him being gay just for the burthurt it continues to generate.
>This book is awful.
You're arguing with a pedophile.
>He hoped he could appeal to (niche "fanbase")
lmao
I still find the idea of Spider-Man having a kid sidekick that everyone forgot about due to cosmic shenanigans absurd, but the first two issues were okay, and Bailey himself has been tolerable. That does not, however, make up for several years of Slott's bad writing and obnoxious attitude.
This. Bailey is a really stupid concept that managed to not suck eggs in execution, but Slott himself is still a major crybaby pissant who doesn’t deserve respect.
Who gives a shit about Slott or the author of any work. I remember a simpler time when we just access a product without knowledge about the creator. Now the internet makes that so easy to find, and people allow it to sully their perception of things. As long as the work is fine then no problem. If the creator is a psycho yelling at clouds where I can't see him then why does it matter? Otherwise it leads to the development of moronic parasocial relationships. Look at how normies hate Ren and Stimpy only because they allow John K to live rent free in their heads while ignoring that other people contributed to that show.
OP asked why people hate Slott. I hate him because he's an butthole who wrote a lot of shit stories. Spider-Boy and the current Superior run have been tolerable so far, but he hasn't done nearly enough for me to give him a free pass for his terrible last four years of ASM (I'd also throw in the original Superior run, but some people her bafflingly enjoyed it) and being an insufferable dickhead.
I tolerated Miles before, but this year, I finally got sick of him.
I mean, the corpos in general produce tons of shit product so you have to follow specific creators whose work you know you like. Just don't follow anyone on social media or read interviews to steer clear of their bullshit irl opinions.
Slott is second only to Bendis in ruining Spider-Man, never letting that go.
What do you mean? I have seen Cinemaphile praise Spider-Boy for being a fun comic with no nonsensical baggage attached to it like ASM or most modern comics. It's a classic style comic focusing on entertainment with goofy villains like Hellifino and Balloon Man. What more can you ask for?
Yes, I still hate Slott. Bailey has potential, problem is Slott needs to go and make space for someone competent and he won't.
ITT: Milesgays hearing the tick-tock of the doom clock
Bailey "Buck Breaker" Briggs
>OP is about bailey
>suddenly miles rivalry out of nowhere
see
All clearly Milesgays.
Slott writes entertaining individual issues but his larger plotlines are always completely moronic.
I don't understand Miles' expression. It looks like "well duh" as if it is obvious that Miles' husband made it for him.
More like frustrated at being shittalked by someone wearing a suit even more obnoxious than his own.
>My spider boy outfit is better than yours!
>No mine was approved by Sony and loved by children everywhere
said both of the spider-man spinoff characters.
It's a 'seriously?' or 'fricking really dude?' expression. Like not actually mad but more like 'are you for real right now?' if that makes sense
We already have an /ss/ thread
Spider-Boy has been quite fun indeed. But Dan really needs to stay off social media.
All artists do, especially if they're too fragile-ego'd to tolerate criticism.
I haven't seen him on Twitter in a while.
Slott is the only good Big 2 writer right now.
Hi Dan
I haven't read SM in a few years. Is this some alt universe thing or a hidden history via reality tampering?
Hidden history. Bailey used to be Spider-Man's sidekick, then reality tampering made everyone forget he exists.
Do they do a "Let's stitch him into Spidey's greatest moments" thing?
Not yet, at least.
There's a flashback to Superior where he's around and Otto almost fricking murders a child but that's it so far
Not yet but they have done some flashbacks. Basically seems that any flashback Slott will do from now on will include Bailey
How'd they get a away with this cover
I don't see what the issue is, that's just what Bailey looks like.
Spider-Boy fans be like
I just think he's cute.
Hot gingers are a draw, it's true, but I think I wouldn't have cared about this character if they hadn't been wise enough to sell him as a sidekick for Peter, not a replacement for him.
I don't get it.
It's not that you guys actually like Spider-Boy
You guys just hate Miles THAT much
Real talk: what's there to actually like about Miles that wasn't already done with another character? Or are we simply expected to like him because he's a mystery meat mutt given amazing powers with no consequences?
the only reason i frick with bailey is because he is a shota
a proper shota that's 12 and under
I like both characters but Miles is better in the movies than the comics. The electric swords bullshit is ridiculous.
No, though it has been funny seeing Milesgays seething like crazy about Spider-boy.
i dont care much for spiderverse shit apart from noir but its been fun watching miles gays getting genuinely angry about bailey
Spider-Boy is just ok. Every issue so far being a crossover betrays that Dan has little faith in him beyond gimmicks, which is exactly what he is. His premise is just really really stupid.
Better than his FF or Spider-Man though for what it’s worth
God bless gimmicks being back in comics.
I’ll be completely honest, my thoughts on Bailey are also being clouded by three outside sources.
The pedophiles here making me dislike him in principle.
Slott being a terrible person and writer, and how forced he felt with all the variants and stories about him early on. I still don’t believe that he wouldn’t have got an ongoing had he not gotten attention from the variants and gimmicks (I.e. that was always the plan to give him one).
And finally, I’m a seething Bengay. Lowe coming out saying that the “Spider-Landscape” is too full then okaying this (while also continuing to ignore Mayday) has made me predisposed to disliking him. And it certainly doesn’t help that Slott was saying that Bailey is basically the same thing as Peter having a kid, which was beyond moronic
>Slott was saying that Bailey is basically the same thing as Peter having a kid, which was beyond moronic
It's cute, but everyone knows that's not his kid and their interplay works because of that.
ToT
It's really not that good. Spider-Boy is an inherently stupid concept, no matter how you spin it, and it just proves that Slott and editorial really don't get Spider-Man. Why give a kid sidekick to the hero who was meant to repudiate the idea of lame kid sidekicks? Why would a hero who's moral foundation is his idea of responsibility condone a 10-year-old fighting supervillains alongside him? Why, if Marvel is so bloody intent on keeping Spider-Man this indistinctly youthful manchild who can never grow up, do they then keep introducing other, younger Spider-people like Miles, Spider-Boy, and Spider-Gwen?
I'll at least begrudge Slott some credit for actually putting some effort into trying to make Spider-Boy distinct, unlike Miles, by actually trying to do something more than just "new Spider-Man but black" and coming up with sensible special powers and new villains for Spider-Boy. But that still doesn't stop the concept being dumb or Slott being a lame, unimaginative, and ultimately uninteresting writer. And the ONLY reason why anyone on Cinemaphile says they like Spider-Boy is because they're gay pedos.
>trying this hard to dislike something
You sound like an abuse victim coming to terms with having the agency to have an opinion again.
This costume looks so shitty.
I like it, though I wish it had active camouflage.
My headcanon is that Bailey designed it when he was alittle kid and chose to keep it when he became a superhero (I don't remember where I read it, but he became a super when he was 7yo or so).
>7 yo
Pretty close to, though he's 10 now.
His teeth is actually pretty cool in the right panel.
>explain why I dislike something
>"uh well you're trying too hard, so your opinion is invalid"
Fantastic argument, really makes me think that maybe there's more to Spider-Boy's ""popularity"" than just shotagays who are permanently coomer-brained.
I agree with your two points. Like I said, Slott has at least put the work in to try and make this character more than just 'Spider-Man but he's a kid'.
I don't think it's a success, though. Marvel can churn out as many variant covers as they want, but that's never really meant anything, and it's pretty obvious we can't exactly trust Slott claiming on CBR that the book is totally selling a bajillion copies.
I consider him a success in the sense that his book actually made me turn around and find Bailey actually worth reading, but you're right if we're talking financially. We'll never know until much later if the book has any worth because of how much Marvel games the system. Especially cause if those leaks are right, we're going to be seeing all of the other cover-variant sidekicks besides Bailey be shoved into the mess that is Marvel atm.
For what it's worth, the two things I like about Spider-Boy are that his powers aren't a carbon copy of Spider-Man's proper like his spider-sense and bite, and the fact he's got his own origin as a human boy mutated into his current state as a freak along with his own rogue's gallery.
Otherwise, I'll at least say that Bailey is something of a success inspite of itself, since it does have all the ingredients to be a total shit sundae, especially written by Slott. I think about the only reason it's not a trainwreck is that he's been the anti-Miles in how much the world has officially shit on Bailey to make him work for his cred, and how he clearly isn't here to outshine or replace Spider-Man. It's practically a miracle his stories are this readable, even if they're not the most imaginative.
>Why give a kid sidekick to the hero who was meant to repudiate the idea of lame kid sidekicks?
Wrong. Peter was made to prove that a teenager could be their own hero instead of a sidekick to another one. He wasn't made to be an argument against the concept, but to prove to suits that they are wrong to always stick to the same formula of teen=sidekick.
>Why would a hero who's moral foundation is his idea of responsibility condone a 10-year-old fighting supervillains alongside him?
This was already addressed in the comic. Peter rejected him at first, but Bailey said that due to his powers he feels responsible to help people. Otherwise his spider sense will make him feel guilty if he ignored everyone in danger. Peter reluctantly accepts him with certain conditions as he mentors Bailey.
>Why, if Marvel is so bloody intent on keeping Spider-Man this indistinctly youthful manchild who can never grow up, do they then keep introducing other, younger Spider-people like Miles, Spider-Boy, and Spider-Gwen?
Appealing to demographics. Basic logic held by suits. It sucks but Peter is a brand execs will want to keep around forever.
Him and Bendis should just quit.
Bendis doesn't at Marvel or DC anymore
I meant existence.
because if book exists it means they must buy it and read it, even if they hate it and that gives them credibility to go online and rant about it instead of just not reading it, letting a fanbase grow on it's own whether it's good or bad because we live in a culture of "WELL MY OPINION IS".
What does he get for Christmas? Dessert?
spotted dick.
No one apart from UK island inbreds knows what that is.
oh sure. not like its a meme or anything.
A picture of his mom according to the latest issue.
i will NOT read this shitty comic about a donut steel-tier character
You do you, bro, but you must be real fun at parties.
>you must be real fun at parties
I am in fact. You on the other hand sit alone in your bedroom white knighting for slop
No one is forcing you to.
>His new book is good and funny.
There's nothing special about it, more than half the posts I've seen about it on this board are wailing and whining about Miles, like the only reason people even mention it is for conservative virtue signaling
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Spider-Boy’s origins just ruins him.
If he was just played straight (no multiverse bullshit) then I could see him lasting awhile.
I'm disgusted at Cinemaphile for liking this character
>Cinemaphile
you meant pedos
I think it's more wild and silly, or willy
I like the kid, it's nice to have a book that isn't deathly serious.
Slott is a grubby hack who cheated his way to the top, his writing is terrible and you should feel bad for liking it
Not interested in your parasocial rivalry.
Cinemaphile came up with Spider-Boy and said Miles should be renamed Spider-Boy and be Peter's sidekick...
But nnnnoooooo....
We swear, the Marvel and other writers really do lurk this place, because way too many ideas from here end up in actual comics or movies or games too often.
And it was that or using Spider-Boy as a sidekick or a son to Peter... like we came up with this fricking idea.
I want to see a mind controlled Bailey rape Anna Maria Marconi since they're the same size
Slott is the reason behind Kaine's renewal as a character that people absolutely love. Yet people never stopped hating him back then either.
My explaination for it is that the hate people have for him on a personal level surpasses the hate people have for him on a creative level.
I didn't like Kaine until Spider-girl and then his own solo
No, Yost is. Slott had Peter act like a total c**t towards Kaine in Spider-Island despite him literally sacrificing his life to save Peter in Grim Hunt.
made for corruption
His costume looks so much better inverted.
>So, um, why does Cinemaphile still hate Dan Slott?
- BND making Peter a 30 year old manchild
- Spiderverse in general