he wouldn't dare write that. No one cares if X-shitters cheat and frick other people, but it's a different matter with Spidey characters, especially nowadays.
It only works for me when MJ and Felicia aren't magically and oh so conveniently bisexual for each other. I hate that. Such a copout.
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That's when you get canon-bi Felicia to help MJ to slowly discover her own sexuality
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Not for me senpai. It's fine if they both lose grasp of their boundaries out of love and lust for Peter, but Felicia trying to groom MJ to be a clamjammer isn't it for me.
I like them being bickering sisters and friendly rivals that respect each other - and would help the other take care of Peter since they love him.
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That's fair tbh, I'm partial to MJFel as a ship but if you want them to just be friends and co-wives to Peter then that's also great. Anything would be better than what we have now...
>Richard >May
Given Richard is named after Peter’s dead dad instead of his dead uncle and May is named after his dead aunt instead of his dead mom, it might mean Ben is still alive.
>Editor: Wil Moss
Based, no more Lowe
I bet the editors and writers will be able to remember these kids’ names :^)
>I bet the editors and writers will be able to remember these kids’ names :^)
I honestly expect some Richard&May vs Romystephanie&Owen(?) art soon. The former kicking the latter's asses ofc
There’s no precedent for Peter naming a son after his dad either in any continuity, IIRC. Admittedly I’m just speculating wildly based on minor details from five pages.
Ben still raised his ass though, and from when Pete was a baby. He’s his father, just like May’s his mother. The new universe is an altered 616, not 1610. 616 Ben and May raised Peter from infancy.
Without the dialogue in the previous teaser, it kinda looked like Richard was being sullen and I immediately jumped to "great, angsty family drama".
Glad to see I was just being a fricking moron.
Depends on the execution. And in comics, especially in today's comics, I just have no patience for garbage drama where everyone is acting like complete morons.
Of course, if everyone's insufferable then it will suck. However if Peter has to struggle with balancing his familial duties and his newfound powers, and then maybe Richard doesn't like this new "Spider-Man" very much, that could be excellent drama
Oh yeah, thats fine. Thats the kind I want.
What I meant was that Richard looking sullen in the no-dialogue teaser had me thinking that it was going to be "son is angsty for no real reason and in a 'frick dad' phase blah blah blah" sort of stuff.
Doesn't seem to be the case. And I was probably just overthinking it.
In certain cases, the different names make sense. Like in this story, or in Life Story, the sons can't be Benjy, because he's 17 years younger than Mayday. And none of the daughters can be Annie because she's always born after Mayday was originally born. Beyond even with multiversal stuff, time still matters. The first daughter is likely always Mayday though.
Just something that activated my nerd brain.
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>Beyond even with multiversal stuff, time still matters.
Does it? There's a universe where Peter is Spider-man during the Great Depression and another where "Petra" is the direct daughter of May and Ben.
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I'd say it does when the desecendants are involved. As it is, Benjy is always 17 years younger because that is how it was when he was first introduced. So even for Noir Peter, his second child would have to be a son born 17 years after his first daughter in order to be Benjy. A daughter born after May would be Annie, before or after her would be Tonya, and if the first birth is twins it'd be April and Mayday of course, etc...
As for Petra, she's definitively not Peter or an alternate counterpart if she's the daughter of Ben and May, she would be Peter's cousin, not his female counterpart. Now, Peni Parker on the other hand... she's a tougher nut to understand.
I'm not saying it's gospel or hard and fast or anything, ofc. But I like consistency and trying to make sense of this. Also, I like the idea that Peter has one very large multiversal family. And an actual, actual family, not like the Batfamily, so he has a bunch of kids who if they met, would probably start a flow chart, being like Peter, and drum up some fun game of figuring out who was born when and in what part of his life.
Of course things will get worse. It wouldn't be much of a Spider-Man story if things didn't get worse. The big difference between this and ASM will be that Peter and his family will go through conflict that will give Peter a reason to get better at balancing his personal life and Spider-Man duties, as opposed to ASM where Peter goes through conflict just for the sake of being tortured.
>Today is, well, you know...
The anniversary of Ben or May's death? Would be kino.
>Richard >May
Given Richard is named after Peter’s dead dad instead of his dead uncle and May is named after his dead aunt instead of his dead mom, it might mean Ben is still alive.
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I bet the editors and writers will be able to remember these kids’ names :^)
That's a good point.
Ben still raised his ass though, and from when Pete was a baby. He’s his father, just like May’s his mother. The new universe is an altered 616, not 1610. 616 Ben and May raised Peter from infancy.
Unless this was a later retcon I'm thought Peter was dropped off on their doorstep as a child, not as a baby. He had vague memories of his parents.
He even blamed himself for their deaths, though that was introduced during Ben Reilly's run.
>The anniversary of Ben or May's death? Would be kino.
It would but I don't see why MJ would bring it up first over Peter.
Peter is the type to keep things to himself and handle it on his own. MJ knows him so well she can tell what bothers him, especially if it's bad enough to keep him up at night, is my guess.
>Peter and MJ's first swinger party >Harry and Liz are there yes I know Spencer killed Harry again frick you >Flash Thompson and Betty Brant are there >Felicia Hardy shows up as a unicorn >Peter and Betty are extremely awkward around each other at the Daily Bugle Monday morning >J. Jonah Jameson walks in >"What the frick are you two blushing like schoolgirls for? Did you frick or something? Jesus Christ, Peter, aren't you already married to a supermodel or something?" >"Anyway, get up off your ass, Parker. I just got news that Spider-Man burned down an orphanage and I want pictures, PRONTO! If they aren't on my desk in one hour, you're fired!"
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Peter is the type to keep things to himself and handle it on his own. MJ knows him so well she can tell what bothers him, especially if it's bad enough to keep him up at night, is my guess.
Any colorgays wanna turn the blue into black and make the eyes kind of yellow? I tried, but eh. The guy from the other thread did a great job.
Now see, I'd wonder how that'd work. Peter got out of his shell and came to know Gwen because of his powers. Gwen died because of Spider-Man. Unless they're changing the story like with Spider-Gwen or Life Story, I don't think a powerless Peter and Gwen would have ever been an item. And she also wouldn't have died.
But if they just wanna say "lel yeah she died here too somehow" I wouldn't be surprised. Just disappointed. Only Gwens I liked were Ultimate, MA, and Spectacular.
I honestly figure there's about a 15% chance she'll be Green Goblin.
Harry's obviously first choice but they've done everything with him, and this Ultimate seems to want go the 'twist' route. Otherwise there's Phil Urich or even Stromm himself, but they'll probably want to do something with Gwen Stacy if she's not dead again.
She's already associated in people's minds with the name, and her face under the mask is would turn more heads than the rest. Not to mention they've leaned in on the science background recently and you could tie a chain of events where she never got involved with Peter and instead got a job at Oscorp through her friendship with Harry.
Looks good but personally I think the yellow eyes works better with the red and blue color scheme. I think if you go red and black, having white lenses looks better. IMO of course.
>Peter got out of his shell and came to know Gwen because of his powers
Dude, frick off with this headcanon. He wasn’t a shy nerd or anything like that. Stop self-inserting.
Self inserting? homie this is Peter's literal character, frick offoff.
Peter's interactions with Gwen were purely because Peter had become a different person because of his powers and Spider-Man. You're an idiot if you think their relationship would play out the same if he didn't have powers.
If he didn't have powers, and didn't become more sociable after highschool, he would have been the same overly studious science geek that put his studies over anything else, taking any chance of coming across to Gwen as he does with his powers, out of the picture.
All of the maturation and development he got as a result of having to balance his life because of his powers never would have happened. He would be a different person, and things would happen differently. That's the whole point.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Peter's interactions with Gwen were purely because Peter had become a different person because of his powers and Spider-Man. You're an idiot if you think their relationship would play out the same if he didn't have powers.
You have clearly never read powerless,
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah that's true, I haven't.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You should thought
5 months ago
Anonymous
Funny thing is that I have now seen it pop up in about four threads now. It keeps coming up. I'll check it out.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Dude, he was still the same guy he was in HS and college. Still had his bad temper and attitude. He also had a girlfriend in Betty and had her and Liz fighting over him.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Pete asked girls out and tried to invite his classmates to the science exhibit all the way back in AF#15. He was plenty sociable, but was rebuffed by others for being a “square”. It was the 60s, and giving a frick about your education was seen as nerdy back in those days. Today, he’d be fine and have plenty of friends. Dude’s 5’10 and handsome even before the spider powers, he’d be fine. Even in the new Ultimate Universe, he went to the exhibit with Liz.
they wouldn't dare, kek. People are already seething hard over ASM, baiting people to buy this on the grounds of Peter and MJ being married and parents only to reveal a divorce would've gotten Hickman's house being burned down
A household where the parents are on the verge of divorce doesn't sound at all like the dialogue/"vibe" in the preview. There's always a hint of animosity between the couple in any interaction when there is. >t. parents divorced when I was a teenager
Two things always pissed me off about this. One is the frickers believing this was Mayday - no homie Mayday has been dead in 616. Her entire split timeline was based off of what if she lived.
Second was WHY would anyone believe Mephisto at this point? His entire goal was to trap the misery that Peter and MJ would feel not being together and nurse on it like a suckling calf. He would fricking lie to make that misery as worse as possible before finally separating the two of them.
Why would anyone believe a word he said at this point?
>inb4 annie may
Up until RYV it would have been more than likely that Mephisto was lying his ass off just to make Peter's plight worse and people saying 'lol Spidey sold his kid's soul' were just being fricking morons.
5 months ago
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you assume these guys read comics
5 months ago
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A fundamental flaw
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Well at least they were good enough to give us clone gabriel and sarah.
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spider-man's story is so convoluted jesus christ
5 months ago
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Oh this is nothing just look what they did with Norman.
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Satan really does make you do drugs.
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>One is the frickers believing this was Mayday - no homie Mayday has been dead in 616. Her entire split timeline was based off of what if she lived
Because Marvel themselves decided to establish that the reason Mephisto targets Spider-Man and does whatever he can to keep him and MJ apart is because Mephisto foresaw that someday he'd take ovet the world, and Mayday Parker would be the person to defeat him.
It'd be real easy to just say "Mary Jane only thought she had a miscarriage. The baby was actually alive because Spider powers and the eternal c**t Madame Webb spirited the baby away somewhere for reasons"
Unless you're going to tell me the Spider-Girl in this image isn't Mayday despite very clearly being Mayday.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Lets get one thing clear, the people saying that it was Mayday, and Marvel deciding years later that Mephisto is super terrified of Mayday, are years apart and divorced of each other. The former is because people don't read comics, the later is because even Marvel doesn't read their comics.
Mayday was and has always been dead in 616. It's to the point that, in RYV, a tangent timeline of 616, that MJ is brought to tears upon meeting Mayday because Mayday was a stillbirth over there too.
The entire thing of Mephisto making that deal to keep Mayday from being born is moot because she was already fricking dead. They're just trying to over explain why he was so interested in separating Pete and MJ, but it's not needed and just brings up a glaringly large, gaping plothole.
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>Mayday was and has always been dead in 616. It's to the point that, in RYV, a tangent timeline of 616, that MJ is brought to tears upon meeting Mayday because Mayday was a stillbirth over there too.
Hell, even in Spider-Verse Peter still remembers Mayday as the daughter he was supposed to have... but didn't get to have, because she died. Mayday's time in 616 was never supposed to happen, and that's why 982 exists. The entire thing with Mephisto is beyond moronic no matter how Marvel tries to justify it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
While I understand what you're saying, we're going to end up going in circles.
To make things simple, I'm just going to greentext some shit and you tell me what you agree and don't agree with. >Spider-Man making a deal with Mephisto was moronic then >It's moronic now >It will be moronic tomorrow >It will still be moronic even if they retcon it >Using Mayday as justification for the why of it is moronic >Mephisto doing it because of Mayday is still canon because Marvel is moronic >Retconning Mayday being stillborn is entirely possible because Marvel has retconned far more significant shit than this in far more asinine ways. >616 Spider-Man has been in a downward spiral since One More Day >Spider-Man's entire supporting cast has been progressively getting worse since One More Day >Especially his love interests >ESPECIALLY MJ and Felicia >All of this and more can and possibly will be retconned eventually >We're all just here in these threads to suffer
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Lets get one thing clear, the people saying that it was Mayday, and Marvel deciding years later that Mephisto is super terrified of Mayday, are years apart and divorced of each other. The former is because people don't read comics, the later is because even Marvel doesn't read their comics.
Mayday was and has always been dead in 616. It's to the point that, in RYV, a tangent timeline of 616, that MJ is brought to tears upon meeting Mayday because Mayday was a stillbirth over there too.
The entire thing of Mephisto making that deal to keep Mayday from being born is moot because she was already fricking dead. They're just trying to over explain why he was so interested in separating Pete and MJ, but it's not needed and just brings up a glaringly large, gaping plothole. >While I understand what you're saying, we're going to end up going in circles. >To make things simple, I'm just going to greentext some shit and you tell me what you agree and don't agree with.
-Man making a deal with Mephisto was moronic then >>It's moronic now >>It will be moronic tomorrow >>It will still be moronic even if they retcon it
Mayday as justification for the why of it is moronic
doing it because of Mayday is still canon because Marvel is moronic
Mayday being stillborn is entirely possible because Marvel has retconned far more significant shit than this in far more asinine ways. >>616 Spider-Man has been in a downward spiral since One More Day
-Man's entire supporting cast has been progressively getting worse since One More Day
his love interests
MJ and Felicia >>All of this and more can and possibly will be retconned eventually
it will never get retconned. >>We're all just here in these threads to suffer
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I just don't agree with >Mephisto doing it because of Mayday >Retconning Mayday being stillborn
>Remember Spidey's kid? Remember how Ben told Peter to tell her about her Uncle Ben? Remember how she died? >Yeah actually naw she didn't die. >That deal with the devil? Yeah that was to stop her from being born. >What? She was dead for years by that point? Nah, you're dreaming dear reader, it never happened. False. >An alternate universe predicated entirely on what if she had actually survived that started over a decade before the deal storyline existed? That's crazy talk. >So anyway yeah Mephisto has big plans and is totally one step ahead, we're not trying to desperately come up with anything at all.
You're right of course about... everything, unfortunately, because Marvel is fricking moronic, but it really is a slap in the face to do that, just pissing on your head and calling it rain. And then seeing people go "Well done Marvel" like it's actually a genius move, dear Lord, that pisses me off.
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Mayday is inevitable. MJ, Gwen, Felicia, Cindy, Chat, the mother doesn’t matter. All that matters that as long as Spidey has a daughter, she’ll always be Mayday.
5 months ago
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Can someone post the image that references that bit in Superior but it's Mephisto and Mayday instead of Norman and Peter saying "It's you" and "The one and only"?
Fingers crossed for Multiplicity shenanigans. >Peter, Peter, you have to get up. >"Mmrr..." >"Unnnh..." >"You're going to be late!" >"Honey, please-" >"Let's make another clone..." >"Peter please no I can barely handle one of you"
>but I will can it the MOMENT that you introduce miles be warned
If Miles was in this or at all relevant Marvel would have forced Hickman to make him show up in the covers or previews.
Miguel would be the only non-Peter Spider-Man I'd want to see, but I guess that won't happen. The suit being teased on a cover made me hopeful, but it just might be an alt sit for Peter
I’m fine with them just letting Hickman use petes supporting cast. Even without him being spider-man in high school he has a decent amount of well established characters to adapt and play with.
>The fact that you need that to move on proves you can't move on.
They did the wrong thing by having Gwen killed she should have not have died it should have been may instead
They did, in the first clone saga. Peter himself said he had no feeling left for Gwen and her return pretty much almost ruined his relationship with MJ and turned him crazy because of the guilt.
>They did, in the first clone saga. Peter himself said he had no feeling left for Gwen and her return pretty much almost ruined his relationship with MJ and turned him crazy because of the guilt.
Oh please everyone knows Peter never got over Gwen's death and this proves it.
They did, in the first clone saga. Peter himself said he had no feeling left for Gwen and her return pretty much almost ruined his relationship with MJ and turned him crazy because of the guilt.
I think we can say that Married Peter, pre OMD, was much better adjusted and matured. He made his peace and moved on from Gwen because he had MJ in totality. This Peter though is post-OMD, so all of his development that was gained because MJ was in his life, as his wife, never got to happen.
In that way post-OMD is like the alternate timeline that never. Fricking. Ends. I wonder what the Peter who didn't take the deal is up to now.
>He made his peace and moved on from Gwen
Romantically, I mean. He would never forgive Norman, especially not after Sins Past, and he would still absolutely curbstomp Norman on principle if he started to act up. But as far as 'muh Gwen', no, Peter wouldn't carry her torch anymore.
I wonder if the Sins Past retcon applies to Pre-OMD too? I guess it would have to, because it goes even further before Peter and MJ's marriage, so the deal wouldn't have affected it...
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>I wonder if the Sins Past retcon applies to Pre-OMD too?
maybe, but you could very easily claim it would still happen as it did pre-retcon. There's not a lot to really go on either way since the story we ended up getting regarding Kindred ended up such a convoluted mess. I'd say the biggest issue here isn't even whether or not Sins Past would still have been a thing, but whether or not Norman's deal with Mephisto even existed pre-OMD. It makes no sense to be a thing with the way Norman was characterized, no matter how much casuals like to say it makes perfect sense for Norman.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Sins Past shouldn't have happened to begin with. Having Gwen frick Norman out of nowhere was obviously just cheap shock value. And because everyone knew it was a mistake, they scrambled to patch things up and overcorrected with that convoluted retcon, as always.
5 months ago
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They only double down on bad decisions these days. Retconning Sins Past was just out of a desperate effort to preserve One More Day, which editorial considers central and vital, out of a combination of misanthropy and schizophrenia.
You know what's more likely to happen? Some other hack comes along and recanonizes Sins Past for shock value yet again.
Gwenschizo better watch out, and if he wasn't moronic he'd be just as desperate to escape the increasingly degraded and baggage laden 616 continuity.
5 months ago
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>Some other hack comes along and recanonizes Sins Past for shock value yet again.
I mean, I would do that kek. But I am a Normansimp so you at least understand where I'm coming from. I would have Peter beat the shit out of Mephisto and nut inside MJ tho, so there's at least that.
5 months ago
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>Normansimp
Very based, my friend. Hopefully in Ultimate, Harry will man up and finally Uphold the Legacy.
Either that or they'll have to reveal that Norman faked his own death, is actually leading the Illuminati now instead of the Maker, and killed Emily Osborn on purpose to get with his mistress Gwen Stacy.
Just Norman things.
5 months ago
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very based ideas, fellow Norman enjoyer. Id only Marvel could see it our way...
I don't think any of this happens anymore anon since it's obvious that OMD will never get undone. Maybe things would have worked out better for Peter had Gwen lived after all.
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There was a what if about that. Peter ended up revealing his identity to Gwen, Norman reveals it to the public, and JJJ being a scumfrick used that to storm in on him with police, forcing Peter into hiding.
Personally, I prefer the Spider-punisher's take on things.
5 months ago
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Ultimate is the undoing of OMD we always wanted, frankly. We don't owe Amazing or 616 anything, and pretty much every book aside from maybe Moon Knight, Fantastic Four, and Dr. Strange is complete fricking garbage right now anyways, and Amazing is the worst its ever been.
I'm totally fine with tuning out Amazing completely and seeing what Hickman does. No more continuity confusion over OMD. No more shitty self inserts. No more manchild Peter.
5 months ago
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>No more shitty self inserts
desu, this can still happen
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On a bad self-insert scale, someone like Carlie Cooper is like a 5/10.
Paul is a solid 12/10, I'm appalled at how defensive the homosexuals writing this shit are about this cardboard cutout of a genocidal rapist.
5 months ago
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fair enough, Paul really is peak shit in that regard.
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I don't think it'll happen during Hickman's tenure. But the moment he gets booted because USM is more popular than ASM you can guarantee they'll put a character assassinator of the highest level on the book
Just read the latest unlimited comic, RYV peter moved on and still says that sometimes he still remembers her, but he moved on thanks to Mary Jane.
Now he is giving to Kamen Insectoid Earth Peter the same talk, move on and live with his Gwen Stacy since his Mary Jane died to giant centipede Green Goblin
Mayday is inevitable. MJ, Gwen, Felicia, Cindy, Chat, the mother doesn’t matter. All that matters that as long as Spidey has a daughter, she’ll always be Mayday.
The latest batman comic kinda threw a "Terry McGinnis is inevitable" into the Zur homosexualry since Beyond/White Knight Old Man BruceZur is the only sane person there while the others are insane, which ended with said bruce getting beaten by edgelord movie zur.
>art is lazy >the Jackpot costume looks like crap >the one-liner is laughably asinine >nobody in the world actually likes the idea of MJ becoming a superhero
I honestly think Marvel is just deliberately making all the worst possible creative choices these days. There's no other real rational explanation for this.
The thing is, Marvel wants her to be a hero disconectedd from peter when in all universes she takes the Spider Woman mantle.
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It did with terry? God the current run is so dumb.
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Because all other batmans called Beyond Old Bruce a weakling for trusting his future to a new generation(who is doing well) not tied to them while all others made fricking failsafe, even DKR who shat on Carrie as Batwoman it seems to have made failsafe and Bruce's hand off it as a connection to the zur multiversal mainframe
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Just read the latest unlimited comic, RYV peter moved on and still says that sometimes he still remembers her, but he moved on thanks to Mary Jane.
Now he is giving to Kamen Insectoid Earth Peter the same talk, move on and live with his Gwen Stacy since his Mary Jane died to giant centipede Green Goblin
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The latest batman comic kinda threw a "Terry McGinnis is inevitable" into the Zur homosexualry since Beyond/White Knight Old Man BruceZur is the only sane person there while the others are insane, which ended with said bruce getting beaten by edgelord movie zur.
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The thing is, Marvel wants her to be a hero disconectedd from peter when in all universes she takes the Spider Woman mantle.
Oh I gotta read this.
If DKR is Dark Knight Returns like I think it is, that jackass has zero place to talk in a room full of Batman.
Is White Knight STILL going?
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I really dislike beyond as a "good" future, and the whole failsalfe/zur stuff is so dumb, so this is all even dumber. Doeant really fit half those batmans either tbh.
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Terry being "Inevitable" is fine though. He's far enough in the future that it kind of doesn't matter. You could theoretically have every existing Robin pick up the mantle of Batman one after the other, ending with Damian, and still have enough leeway for Terry to pick it up without stepping on any toes that actually matter.
It doesn't hurt that fans generally like Terry.
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I feel terry works only in the context of an AU, not as the main future, at least not with bruce in the old man role, that is a massive bad ending for bruce that ends up treating the phantasam thing as gospel for bruce when half the dcau batman stories are undermined with that angle. Making damian the old wayne works a bit better, but damian being batman is HIS bad end too, so its kinda that issue.
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This is a Spider-Man thread so I don't want to devolve into Batman discussion, but you do realize that just because one version of a character exists in sub-optimal conditions, that doesn't mean all versions of that character must live in those same sub-optimal conditions, right?
You can write Terry to exist as an inevitable replacement without making Bruce an old miserable frick just because Batman Beyond did it.
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Absolutely, i dont even dislike beyond, i just dont like it as the ending to dcau batman. Tho beyond is very spidey-esque so its not the worst fitting thing to talk about here.
I do think naturally the others that have a pre-existing tie to bruce make more natural sucessors, so it either needs bruce to implode his relationships with them, convolute the situation so a random teen's batman rather than them, or making him suceed one of them.
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Anonymous
Easy enough.
Damian, as the biological son of Bruce, inevitably becomes Batman.
Damian, taking after his father, recruits young people to be part of the mission.
You can even have an old Bruce still around helping Damian how he can. Could even have him married to Selina and Helena be around as Damian's little sister and Batgirl, while Terry serves as a Robin or Nightwing before eventually taking the cowl himself.
Done.
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I dont particularly like damian as batman and its clearly his bad ending as a character. Regardless i did say it was an option lmao. "making him suceed one of them". I didnt say it was hard.
Making terry a sideckick totally ruins the base appeal tho
>Being a Gwen gay must really suck if your saving grace is Nick "famously pro-MJ" Spencer
I addmit that the recton should have been handled better but that's not spencer's fault but rather marvel editoral. Still I am happy anyway since Sins Past is no longer canon.
>that's why Felicia is best girl >steals his blood to sell to his enemies >has a mental breakdown seeing him without his mask on >refuses to frick without the mask on >leaves after fricking >fricks his colleagues and friends >For most of their history until he gets married she only loves Spider-Man and is disgusted with Peter Parker, wanting little to nothing to do with him >Only "grows up " (funny word for not being an emotionally traumatizing c**t) after he no longer is interested in her and has MJ
Yeah sure anon, she sure is best girl
Actually stan did care about Gwen you know nothing anon nothing at all.
5 months ago
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wake up man, that girl you liked in highschool is not the only woman on the earth
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Your first love is what truly matters sure other girls may enter your life but your first love is what truly matters since that love is usually the most strongest comapred to the later ones.
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Still a better love story than the Spider-man who gobs in ASM recently
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>Peter has literally said out loud no less than 4 times since she died that he loves MJ more than he ever loved Gwen.
At least your character is (mostly) dead and you don’t have to watch the writers sabotage their story to ruin her. THAT’S what you have to look forward to if your monkey paw wish gets granted anon
It's literally just one single shitposter who's able to hold every Spider-Man thread on Cinemaphile hostage with his boring spam, because the jannies don't give a frick about actually dealing with him for some bizarre reason. He's been doing this dumb shtick practically every day for like two years now, and I've only ever seen him get banned once or twice. Pretty sure he was even doing this over Christmas as well.
It's boggling how one lone autist is able to completely and consistently ruin threads all on his own. Say what you want about reddit and other forums, but at least there a homosexual like this would be banned the instant he tried spamming for the first time.
They're not actually fans of Gwen or Peter's relationship with her, they're just trying to make people mad.
so is this a sequel to the ultimate spider-man? Like the series from the 00s. The one where he died.. but then came back and said "frick everything" and gave it all to Miles?
no. It's kinda confusing, but this is a new Ultimate universe. >why use the name then?
it's familiar. I guess Marvel might also consider the Ultimate name as something to use for alt universes (that don't take place in a future setting, hence why no 2099 as the main contender for that)
See, Venom is one of the best-selling comics since he wrote it. You can’t argue with results.
I enjoyed Remender's Agent Venom run
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I enjoyed most of his stuff & would happily accept more big 2 cape shit from him
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I'm usually a strict Peter/Ben/Kainegay but Remender's Agent Venom gave me an entirely unexpected appreciation for Flash. One that sadly did not transfer over into Bendis's spaceknight bullshit or the Spider-Island what if.
But he wrote a damn good Flash. I'll always remember his run fondly for that alone.
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I would've been more fond of Remender's Venom if he didn't feel the need to kill off Pat off-screen and make Toxin just another lame symbiote.
I really liked the "by the book cop/bratty kid symbiote" dynamic and would've loved to see more of it..
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I was literally going to bring that up, but it would undercut what I sad lol. Me b***hing about poor Pat is a whole separate thing. Toxin going from the symbiote that broke the mold to another notch on Eddie's belt annoyed the hell out of me.
I wasn't a fan of Eddie after that. Good thing too, because shit around him has been awful.
Peter mentions late nights and heading to the office.
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He has a job but Mary Jane is gonna be working as a world famous model most likely, that pulls in most of the money
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>Mary Jane is gonna be working as a world famous model most likely
Ew no. It’s a dumb idea.
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Why? That's literally what she is known for in 616
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nta but last night I just remembered she owned a club. I wonder what happened to that.
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It burned down twice in Slott's run and then Spencer kinda ignored it iirc. They should bring it back, that was a fun addition
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>is actually married to Mary-Jane instead of just rooming with her >has actual children instead of fakes created by his dad >has an actual job and an income >has birth certificate, valid ID, and Social Security Number >did not murder billions of people by accident
PAULBROS WHY DO WE KEEP LOSING
5 months ago
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Not kill billions of people by accident and do we know what Spider-Man's job is in this universe?
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It’s got something to do with that orb in his bag, so I’m thinking something science related.
Except another preview showed him at the Daily Bugle. But maybe it wasn’t as an employee?
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>Paul doesn’t even have US citizenship and is basically an illegal immigrant living inside MJ’s house.
Guys I don’t think they thought through Paul’s backstory in the slightest.
In my experience, when an incessant, prolific shitposter/spammer like this who does it every single fricking day is going almost completely unchecked, it's either because: >the jannies don't care about the threads the trolling is happening in, regardless of how many reports come in, so they just let it happen
OR >the jannies are friends with the shitposter, or perhaps even the shitposter is a janny himself, so they deliberately protect him You might think the latter is too outlandish, even for Cinemaphile, but I've seen it happen elsewhere. You'd get a ban for complaining about the fact that the shitposter there was protected, while the shitposter would just keep spamming his nonsense like nobody's business
I've actually kamikaze'd myself on numerous occasions by posting porn and/or gore (don't remember which) to see how mods would react.
Naturally mods only deleted my posts but left the schizoBlack person's untouched, so he's certainly sucking up to jannytrannies or is one of them.
no. It's kinda confusing, but this is a new Ultimate universe. >why use the name then?
it's familiar. I guess Marvel might also consider the Ultimate name as something to use for alt universes (that don't take place in a future setting, hence why no 2099 as the main contender for that)
Nope, new universe. The maker travel in a universe who didn't have its superhero yet and start shit up.
On the few things on top of my head >Howard is Iron Man and Obadiah Stane is War Machine >Tony is a teen and Iron Lad (might become Kang too) >The FF are dead except Reed, who became Dr Doom >Odin got killed and Loki took his place >Hulk became a buddhist monk who is the leader of a monk nation and use satellites to obliterate peoples. >Colossus and Magik are Russia's leaders >Black Panther and Moon Knight are at war with each others. >Storm is Killmonger's GF >Peter never got bitten as a teen. Married MJ and had non powered kids. >Captain America is probably the only one who didn't change
never got bitten as a teen. Married MJ and had non powered kids.
How much do you want to bet they just She-Hulk one of the kids?
That is, one of them (Likely May, because it's always a Peter daughter) gets severely injured by some villain or another, and is so in danger of bleeding out with MJ and Richard so far away the only safe bet to get her the blood she needs is to take it right from a now powered up Peter.
>Initial 6160 is just setting up various heroes and villains and super organizations >A married Peter as Spider-Man was never the lasting intention >Setting does a time skip in 1-2 years >May is now a teenager, goes by her full name Mayday as a civilian, goes by Spider-Woman (No Jessica to take it first) as a hero, and is the main spider hero of the setting now after Green Goblin's fall from grace saw him take Spider-Man's leg. >Goes through this universe's symbiote saga >Richard becomes Venom
How would people react?
I doubt the two year thing, since the main premise of hte book is that there's 2 years before the dome opens, and with issue 1 it seems to be in kinda real time? As its jan of 2023.
One night a Polish hobo who was known only as "The Goblin" for his unspeakable ugliness and manletism got really drunk and fricked a pig in the nearby barn. Fearing that he'd be caught by the farmer and forced to do what he hated the most, which was to actually work and have a steady job, he retreated to places unknown never to be seen again. Sometime later the gwenschizo is born. Growing up without a father and inheriting the ugliest traits of both his parents lead to him becoming a friendless loser no one wanted to play with which led to him developing the resentment for this so-called "Goblin".
One day he found a stash of Sins Past floppies in the school bathroom after all the kids in his class took turns dunking him face-first into the toilet for being annoying. He instantly fell in love with Gwen Stacy as she was the only girl he ever seen who seemed prostituteish enough to actually be willing to frick him instead of just laughing at him or kicking him in the balls (though due to their size most girls missed the mark so they just chose to laugh) like every other girl did. However that was darkened by her being fricked by Green Goblin which instantly brought up all the bad memories and Mary Jane reminded him of one redheaded girl who actually did somehow manage to consistently kick him in his tiny balls with 100% accuracy. Foaming at the mouth gwenschizo was escorted out of the school and thrown in the dumpster because nobody cared to take him home. Years later gwenschizo found Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile by accident while looking for CP because outside of Gwen Stacy it was the only thing that gave him an erection. Stumbling upon Cinemaphile threads decades of humiliation took their toll and the age of schizophrenic ramblings began. Finding kindred spirits in fellow eunuchs and trannies aka Cinemaphile moderation team, gwenschizo began his reign of sucking a fat wiener.
It isn’t much, but this was one of the first times in a long time that the preview pages of Spider-Man didn’t piss me off in some way.
That’s enough to make me comfortable with the idea that they should shutter Amazing in favor of Ultimate. Even if it’s average, it’s not actively repellant like Amazing, so far.
Is this version of spider-man possibly going to have organic we shooters? Because I can't really imagine how adult married peter with two kids is gonna pull off making that shit.
Why not? The production of web comes in connection with his powers. He knows how to build one that works the way it does precisely because of the spider bite. However, to differentiate, I think they should give him natural shooters.
He gains knowledge inherited from the spider about how to produce the webs chemically. And honestly, this was brilliant for the 60s. However, it also adds to the character's innate genius, in addition to the gain provided by the radioactivity in his blood.
>He knows how to build one that works the way it does precisely because of the spider bite.
That sounds like some garbage introduced by spider-verse and its offshoots to justify how the imitations have webbing.
Peter built the webshooters on his own merits, not because of the bite. If you want to get on the meta side of things, in JMS it was tongue in cheek implied he chose to call himself spider-man because of the bite, when he could have called himself anything. But he chose the webs, he chose the iconography. At the same time, in the same run, it's also said, "No he was bitten by a spider of course he'd call himself spider-man".
Peter just happens to be a genius who was able to put together webfluid after getting his powers. He may have been inspired by them to use make the recipe into webbing, but bite didn't magically teach him how to do it.
But it wouldn't make sense if he didn't gain powers, skills and knowledge from a
"Spider" being that he was bitten by one.
Him being a genius only complements this, seeing as Miles was bitten by a spider and has no intelligence whatsoever and, apparently, doesn't even know how to produce web fluid.
The instinctive will and comfort in being in dark and high corners, the way of fighting that naturally resembles a spider, the way he carries himself (he used to jump a lot in fights, and for some reason they forgot that) has always reminded him of one. Obviously, because he was bitten by a spider and became a human spider.
>The instinctive will and comfort in being in dark and high corners, the way of fighting that naturally resembles a spider, the way he carries himself (he used to jump a lot in fights, and for some reason they forgot that) has always reminded him of one. Obviously, because he was bitten by a spider and became a human spider.
That's because Peter was, and is always, the best fit for the Spider. He is THE Spider-Man. The Spider chose him above everyone else.
Besides that, again, Peter already had the innate genius and capacity to revolutionize chemistry with his own man made adhesive product. After being bitten, he warped it to a more utilitarian use for performance, as he wanted to do cool stuff on tv originally.
I say that the powers magically imbuing him with knowledge takes away from his innate genius. That is all on him and it detracts from his character to say that it was given to him like a hand out.
For Miles, I agree. And while Ultimate Peter had continued his father's research but completed it and then chose, just like Peter, to warp it to fit the spider powers, he still made it his own. Peter is just "That Guy", the powers and identity work best with him. That's why nearly all offshoots and copycats either don't have webs, or have convenient organic webbing.
Funny how even Bendis managed to understand something, at the time (even though he's the guy who distorted the meaning of it), that recent writers can't understand about Spider-Man. This explains a lot about the quality of the magazine and his inconsistent characterization.
Spider-Man being the sum of his parts is something much more fundamental than just a brand of clothing and a set of relatively generic powers.
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More than the sum of his parts you mean? But yeah, Peter, being Peter, makes those powers a quantative leap that others just can't get. Even Ben Reilly. Peter's just the man.
Also did Bendis really? If so, yeah it's an extremely poignant point that's unique to Peter. I'm surprised he would posit something like that considering his characterization of Peter and how he pretty much started the dilution of the character.
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>Spider-Man being the sum of his parts is something much more fundamental than just a brand of clothing and a set of relatively generic powers.
Tell that to Adidas
It's just spam from the resident troll.
Report them for spam, and then report the spammer's smug ESL "lol this isn't spam sir look at the title good sir" replies for trolling. Occasionally, reporting actually does something.
theres no miles thread up atm so...
lol >miles can now see through walls if he focuses hard enough!!!! guys his spider-sense is totally weaker than peters!!!
Peter can, or could, do that to. For the time Shattered Dimensions was considered canon (it was for Ultimate for sure), the boost Spidey got to his spider-sense had that included. Even Migs temporarily got his own spider-sense.
>For the time Shattered Dimensions was considered canon (it was for Ultimate for sure)
Since when? The only game that was considered canon for Ultimate far as I know was the OG Ultimate Spider-Man, before Bendis in all his wisdom of King Shitmidas retconned it with a much shittier retelling of it.
>Morales' Spider sense starts malfunctioning or straight up not working. >It's waning ability is attributed to his mental state which is overtaxed with his mounting pressures. >Miles sees Doc. Samson in order to refocus himself >His mental exercises he employs are actually useful to train and expand his Spider sense powers.
Yep, it's manufactured outrage again. Spider sense was always something that could be expanded to the level of assassin Spider with some training. Come back with a real complaint
>miles sees a therapist >this results in him getting a daredevil power
It’s shit. At least have him actually train for it like Peter did back in the day
>Peter having to make an entirely new martial art for unique to him to compensate for him temporarily losing his spider sense >Miles just going to a therapist and suddenly getting power number 563
Oh yeah you’re right that’s exactly the same thing
Peter's power was a gimmick instantly undone by the next writer to get a hold of him. No more useful than a gimmick suit to beat a villain.
Miles was a core evolution of abilities on the path of improvement.
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Peter’s path of improvement led to him making a name for himself as Spider-Man in the superhero community and becoming known as its heart and soul, all the while accruing a great deal of close friends in his personal life.
Miles’s path of improvement is getting new powers handed to him and clinging to the Spider-Man name like a parasite.
lol
>Assassin Spidey >Trained nonstop with a legendary combat vet that could turn normal people into Black Widows capable of fighting against or alongside Captain America, as well as wolverine himself >Regular Spider-Man >Has to be trained by Daredevil =, a master in other senses, because he's temporarily blind, or have years of experience to develop his spider-sense or have none at all and be trained extensively by Shang-Chi to complement his spider-sense with actual martial arts and kinesiology >Miles >...He went to a therapist for a little bit
Therapy works for first world problems since it’s just venting your issues to a third party. It ain’t a fix all since it doesn’t do shit against actually serious issues. THAT you need actual action to fix. Words are cheap, but actions are everything.
>Wait so is this a continuation of the Ultimate stuff or a reboot?
Neither. Not related to the Ultimate universe at all. They're just using the Ultimate name.
Maker/Ultimate Reed messed with the 616 timeline and created an alternate universe. Age of Makerpocalypse basically.
>Maker/Ultimate Reed messed with the 616 timeline and created an alternate universe. Age of Makerpocalypse basically.
Uhhh, that's not what happened. The Maker found a universe that is very similar to Ultimate Universe (Earth-6160) and altered it to be the way he wanted his original universe to be.
Man, you're dumb. The whole point of the first issue and start of the second issue of Ultimate Invasion was that he's just spinning off an alternate 616. Its what the "would you erase me from history if you could" question to Reed is all about. Because thats what Maker is about to do.
Why do you think the title page is a bubble saying 616 with the a ton of tiny lines emerging from it? And then after Maker goes through the portal, the bubble is changed to "..." followed by the next page where the bubble is now "6160".
Even in the second issue, the memory log of the catalysts of this universe's heroes is labeld "BR-616".
You have to be brain damaged and illiterate to not figure this out.
That drawing for Ultimate Spider-Man was the thing that convinced me to read it, but I was disappointed in what I got. Uncle Ben gets pushed to the wayside very early on in USM, instead focusing on Richard Parker's long forgotten experiments coming back to bite Peter in the ass.
>ou feel really threatened and frightened by the positive reception Ultimate is getting, and that's extremely funny to me.
What postive reception? so far all people have seen are the preview pages for the first issue for all we know the rest of the book may out to be shit. In fact I woud not be suprised if this turns out to be the case, and later a different writer will no doubt replace hickman and he will no doubt crap on Ultimate making it bad.
I have never seen Cinemaphile genuinely excited for anything related to Spider-Man for the last several years, up until Ultimate was announced. Amazing Spider-Man and 616 is routinely crucified on X/Twitter with only a handful of apologists here and there to get shouted down, whereas there is immense positive buzz for Ultimate.
Sure, it's more likely that a good book eventually turns bad, rather than the reverse. But Ultimate looks really good, and Amazing looks really bad, right now.
And I'd give much, much better odds that Amazing will keep on staying bad, no matter who is writing, because Nick Lowe will always be the editor, and he hates the fans and wants to spite them. And he wants to spite you and hurt you too, which is why he green-lit Spider Gwen permanently replacing the OG Gwen. He's not your friend, he's not your buddy, and he wants to screw you over just as much as he does everyone else.
>And I'd give much, much better odds that Amazing will keep on staying bad, no matter who is writing, because Nick Lowe will always be the editor, and he hates the fans and wants to spite them. And he wants to spite you and hurt you too, which is why he green-lit Spider Gwen permanently replacing the OG Gwen. He's not your friend, he's not your buddy, and he wants to screw you over just as much as he does everyone else.
Spider-Gwen is not OG Gwen replacment in any way first of all 616 Gwen never had any superpowers and secondly she had a completely different character.
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I know, that anon, and you know that. But Nick Lowe doesn't care, and he's the one who approved this decision. Because it's a bad choice that'll make more people angry, and he's the type of guy that wants to do it on purpose.
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The only way lowe would get fans to get truly angry would be for Peter and Spider-Gwen to become a hot item and that he won't do then again this is marvel we are talking about. it would be ironic really Peter marries a alternative version of Gwen now what would 616 Gwen think about it I wonder lol.
You know if y’all just ignored the Gwen gay he’d get tired of it. Don’t respond, don’t talk about them, don’t wonder why janitors don’t take care of them. Just ignore.
They didn't have to do that, to be honest. Just say 'there's no more One More Day, there's no more Paul Rabin, and there's definitely no Dan Slott, Zeb Wells, or Nick Lowe' and you'd already have a captive audience.
And we know that's true because that's literally what happened, and a five page preview where relatively little happens manages to garner far more interest on Cinemaphile than Zeb's big crossover work that he'd been foreshadowing from the beginning of his gay and worthless run.
I can see why they DIDN'T do it - it's because ASM is the fat pig that's being cannibalized by all the other offshoot parasites. Spider-Verse, Miles, Silk, and everything else is orbiting ASM, has their claws in ASM. Introducing an alternate ASM timeline that has none of that would get in the way of their bottom line, OCs, or spider-society garbage.
This way it's a smaller competitor for the spotlight. ASM is THE Spider-Man book, so they want to keep it that way. Making something and saying OMD never happened would also undo a lot of the shit that makes the current ASM tenable as well as bleed readers away from current ASM. Can't have that.
Sooooo alt RYV timeline with Pete going solo instead of the whole family
Yes and no. Peter here is only just now getting his powers instead of having them since fifteen. I prefer him solo though. Never liked the idea of him splitting his powers 50/50 with MJ and then also letting his literal child daughter fight crime. It works as a cute low stakes book but not beyond that, imo. Then RYV shot itself in the foot with the timeskip.
Like most things Marvel does in order to try to be sly and clever, it ultimately never works out and blows up in their face. Look at all the variant covers coming out for it. Lowe is definitely resentful that Ultimate is stealing the oxygen from the room for Amazing, and it's definitely positioned itself as *the* alternative for anyone dissatisfied with the status quo. To the point where even Lowe is just throwing up his hands in his own fricking letter pages and saying "UH IF YOU DON'T LIKE PAUL OR THE KEKSHIT JUST READ ULTIMATE, GOD!"
The fact that the editor on Ultimate isn't a hardcore OMD guy or a Quesada sycophant means they won't have an easy time sabotaging this book. Especially if it keeps selling the way the preorders have been doing.
>>so far 4 writers want to take over next after Wells
And the writer who gets to write Ultimate after hickman will no doubt crap it leading the book to get canceled soon after.
R.I.P. Ultimate Spider-Man (2024-2025) lasted for twelve issues.
I don't he cares about the book being objectively shit. I think he probably didn't expect people to realize he had an actual cuck fetish which is infinitely more humiliating
The main problem with cuckgays is that you can't even humiliate them by pointing out how pathetic and sad their fetish is, because they get off on that
>Marvel teases first post-Krakoa story and more in Free Comic Book Day 2024 offerings >Marvel Comics has shed even more light on their Free Comic Book Day 2024 offerings, which include the first-ever post-Krakoa tale taking place in Blood Hunt/X-Men #1. There are also preview pages for FCBD Marvel’s Voices, Star Wars, and Spider-Man/Ultimate Universe! >Free Comic Book Day takes place on May 4th, 2024. >In FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2024: BLOOD HUNT/X-MEN #1, the long night arrives! Take your first bite of this upcoming saga from writer Jed MacKay that sees the vampires of the Marvel Universe step out of the shadows and plunge the world into darkness. Starring the Avengers, Moon Knight, Doctor Strange, and of course, pop culture’s iconic vampire hunter, Blade, BLOOD HUNT promises to leave a profound mark on the Marvel Universe in its wake. FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2024: BLOOD HUNT/X-MEN #1 will also give readers their very first look at what’s next for mutantkind. Written by Gail Simone and drawn by David Marquez, this story follows Jubilee on a journey to where it all began and is packed with jaw-dropping hints at the X-Men’s post-Krakoa landscape. >In FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2024: SPIDER-MAN/THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSE #1, see the start of the next ongoing series set in the Marvel’s new Ultimate line! By the time it comes out, readers will have met the new Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate Black Panther, and the new Ultimate X-Men. Now, a new team of ULTIMATE heroes emerge to help put this twisted universe on track towards a hopeful future in a story by Deniz Camp and Juan Frigeri. FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2024: SPIDER-MAN/THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSE #1 will also set up the return of Norman Osborn as Green Goblin, a storyline coming soon to Zeb Wells’ Amazing Spider-Man run; and a special preview of Al Ewing’s next mind-bending arc of Venom!
the rest is for minority crap and Star Wars, but these two have Spidey
Is that Doom with a fricking gun?
I don't know if that's funny, or cool. >Yeah so we have this super powerful genius scientist grandmaster sorcerer and from time to time multiversal deity who thinks godhood is beneath him >Okay, what's he doing? >In his free time he goes to shoot homies in suits with some energy pistols while sporting the latest fashion from GQ: Hobo Tinman Edition
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Doom used guns in Savage Avengers by Duggan a couple of years ago, and this Doom is reed anyway
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>Doom is reed
I had zero knowledge that was a thing
>I don't know if that's funny, or cool.
It's Dr. Doom, so the answer is that it's both funny and cool. Even if he's also Reed Richards.
I'm very curious about what 616 Doom would think about 1610 Reed Richards, who went off the deep end as the Maker and became a bigger villainous mastermind than 1610 Doom, compared to 6160 Reed Richards, who ended up becoming an antiheroic Dr. Doom that's vehemently opposed to the Maker.
I am so confused. I thought 1610 Doom was an absolute unit who solo'd Marvel Zombies and made it back unscathed?
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>I had zero knowledge that was a thing
The Maker (Reed from the OG Ultimate universe, Universe 1610) went to Marvel Universe 6160 (The new Ultimate universe)
The Maker wanted to remake the world in his image since the restored 1610 universe was just kind of existing on it's own and everything was better for everyone involved, with even Ultimate Spider-Man back to being the only Spider-Man in the universe.
The Maker, presumably bitter over what happened with the FF in his universe, caused the FF to miss their flight using a time travel device, and thus the cosmic rays that gave them powers.
Off panel, Ben and the Storms died. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that The Maker was probably still bitter over getting cucked out of his own Sue by his best friend Ben, and Johnny hitting him with flames in the face so hot that it caused him permanent facial damage and their deaths were totally unrelated.
Reed, however, was turned into Doctor Doom by The Maker. Because Ultimate Reed is a narcissistic butthole, and the only mind he respects is his own. So 6160 Doom is just a Reed turned into Doom by a different Reed, and thus you have a reason to make this Doctor Doom into a hero from the start, because the man under the mask was already supposed to be a good guy, as 6160 was presumably supposed to play out the exact same way 616 did, until The Maker started fricking around with the immortus engine.
And that's why Peter Parker gets to be happy. Because even The Maker realized Peter Parker is the only thing in the multiverse cucked harder than he is and tossed this one a bone.
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>I don't know if that's funny, or cool.
It's Dr. Doom, so the answer is that it's both funny and cool. Even if he's also Reed Richards.
I'm very curious about what 616 Doom would think about 1610 Reed Richards, who went off the deep end as the Maker and became a bigger villainous mastermind than 1610 Doom, compared to 6160 Reed Richards, who ended up becoming an antiheroic Dr. Doom that's vehemently opposed to the Maker.
>Tombstone's lawyer had glasses.
you could be wearing contacts though
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Anonymous
If one artist was trying to call back to a character drawn by another artist, they'll focus on distinct and easily identifiable traits.
Which is why, no matter how absurdly buff or skinny Paul is drawn between artists, Paul is now doomed to have a stupid looking manbun. It's Paul's iconic manbun now.
>a special preview of Al Ewing’s next mind-bending arc of Venom!
I'm surprised that Ewings Venom run has gone on for so long at this point >a new team of ULTIMATE heroes emerge to help put this twisted universe on track towards a hopeful future in a story by Deniz Camp and Juan Frigeri.
so ultimates then
>FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2024: SPIDER-MAN/THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSE #1 will also set up the return of Norman Osborn as Green Goblin, a storyline coming soon to Zeb Wells’ Amazing Spider-Man run
Well that nails if for sure Peter's final confrontation with Norman for sure I have a feeling the Green Goblin will die for sure this time. Maybe after this mess is over they will get around to revving Gwen.
They will let him be happy, if only to take it away from him yet again.
Casting True Resurrection on Gwen is the only thing I can see Peter be actually happy about at this point, so it makes sense they’d do it to the poor fricker.
There is a possiblity that the celestials brought back Gwen some time ago at this is what is hinted here. She mentions being away somewhere for a long time who knows maybe the celestials are in cahoots with the eternals or something
2019: MJ is a civilian who gets a mini series about working on a movie with Mysterio. It's popular enough to get a second arc, but the arc is cancelled due to the pandemic.
2023: MJ becomes a superhero and a mini series is announced. Everyone hates the idea, with a big part of that hatred being due to the atrocious events that led to her becoming a hero in the first place, and the mini becomes a one-shot. Another mini is announced, but now it's a team-up story with Black Cat, as if they're no longer confident in their plan to push MJ as a hero but are determined to go through with it anyway.
>art is lazy >the Jackpot costume looks like crap >the one-liner is laughably asinine >nobody in the world actually likes the idea of MJ becoming a superhero
I honestly think Marvel is just deliberately making all the worst possible creative choices these days. There's no other real rational explanation for this.
Not sure if anyone has pointed this out
Paul Jenkins is apparently back at Marvel since he's going to need to make some money after having been in a lawsuit against some autistic Star Trek fan
He might be doing some Spider-Man work again soon
He also has an interview with Popverse (for members only) where he's going to talk about his time on Spider-Man
This is what can happen when an autist has too much money https://axanar.com/faq/ https://axanar.com/paul-jenkins-sued-for-copyright-fraud-and-defamation/
Other options are random, not too many marvely ones. In the lead theres a magik and stephanie brown ones. It's locked behind the patreon as a post. But only like 5 bucks.
There is a lot of oc for it in these threads, and iirc swirl once did a co delivery for it, so felt fitting to give a friend of mine free advertising here lmao.
Sorry just that one and a predator arm for ben and Peter
>I have never seen Cinemaphile genuinely excited for anything related to Spider-Man for the last several years
What about the JMD minis
Yeah. This is the first time I'm excited for an ongoing since the end of Spencer personally if nothing else. I have a subscription on which I barley do anymore.
a bit of a side note, but judging just twittex's reaction, fans of Miguel are more interested in seeing how he deals with the people in his personal life. The Miguel hugging Conchata panel got a lot of reactions, while no one seemed to care much for the actual plot
a bit of a side note, but judging just twittex's reaction, fans of Miguel are more interested in seeing how he deals with the people in his personal life. The Miguel hugging Conchata panel got a lot of reactions, while no one seemed to care much for the actual plot
Why are they wasting Miguel on this generic "oh so spooky" Halloween vampire slop?
I am curious about the spoilers, just tag them if you like. There’s so many false leaks on the threads these days that even I won’t completely buy what you share anyways, and I’m the one requesting it.
I heard them from someone, but they are super sparse, so i can buy them. [Spoiler] . "Really good, Peter somehow feels 'incomplete' and the story is about getting a second chance to right a wrong. MJ is supportive of him and does find out he's Spider-Man. She's in 9 pages" I assume by the specificness, the kids dont find out, so that's probably where the drama will lay? [/Spoiler]
…Don’t worry about the tags, tbh I always felt MJ figuring out he’s Spider-Man is inevitable considering her 616 backstory.
It’ll be interesting, especially if MJ doesn’t approve of the vigilantism but still ends up lying to the kids to keep Peter safe.
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Comm anon
I tried, i dont use the spoiler tag much, sorry.
Well seems she's supporting going by this, since that's the wife-husband dynamic he seems to like writing, putting the conflict more squarely on the kids/parents.
Well seems she's supporting going by this, since that's the wife-husband dynamic he seems to like writing, putting the conflict more squarely on the kids/parents.
Just press 'Ctrl' + 's' next time. You don't have to manually type out the spoiler brackets unless you're phoneposting
5 months ago
Comm anon
Ah no, im on computer. Phone's too uncomfortable to type and i cant use the pass there
5 months ago
Anonymous
Even better then, you can just use that shortcut every time
If ultimate only he gets it's a good book or it's great or even gets anything other than a 10 for reviews accross the board than it's a systemic failure and should be cancelled on the spot and just die right there and not continue
>Editor: Wil Moss
Based, no more Lowe
it's gonna have that watermark on the pages, but you can see the text fine
Subtle
I wonder what will be the calling into action.
Watch the overarching plotline be about the spider bite regressing him back to a teenager, and him having to fight to move forward with his life.
okay
Got a feeling that later down the line Hickman will pull a classic move of his and mirror this scene after Peter cheats on MJ.
he wouldn't dare write that. No one cares if X-shitters cheat and frick other people, but it's a different matter with Spidey characters, especially nowadays.
Correct. X-men stans are degenerates who love polyamory.
Most poly ships are cringe, but this one actually works
It only works for me when MJ and Felicia aren't magically and oh so conveniently bisexual for each other. I hate that. Such a copout.
That's when you get canon-bi Felicia to help MJ to slowly discover her own sexuality
Not for me senpai. It's fine if they both lose grasp of their boundaries out of love and lust for Peter, but Felicia trying to groom MJ to be a clamjammer isn't it for me.
I like them being bickering sisters and friendly rivals that respect each other - and would help the other take care of Peter since they love him.
That's fair tbh, I'm partial to MJFel as a ship but if you want them to just be friends and co-wives to Peter then that's also great. Anything would be better than what we have now...
New thread, nice! And great on the previews. Have another comm.
Love the amount of detail here.
I wish they'd keep the ponytail or fluffy hair look for this mj, they look better than the main one.
cute cover comm!
Thanks usper proud of it
Cute!!!
>Richard
>May
Given Richard is named after Peter’s dead dad instead of his dead uncle and May is named after his dead aunt instead of his dead mom, it might mean Ben is still alive.
I bet the editors and writers will be able to remember these kids’ names :^)
>I bet the editors and writers will be able to remember these kids’ names :^)
I honestly expect some Richard&May vs Romystephanie&Owen(?) art soon. The former kicking the latter's asses ofc
>Peter Parker grateful that his children are real, instead of fakes created by his evil Wizard dad to be his wingmen after he assisted in a genocide.
>I honestly expect some Richard&May vs Romystephanie&Owen(?) art soon
What?
There's no precedent for Peter ever naming a daughter after his mother, it's always been May
There’s no precedent for Peter naming a son after his dad either in any continuity, IIRC. Admittedly I’m just speculating wildly based on minor details from five pages.
There is actually, his son in the House of M universe is called Richie.
do not interact with him, just filter and notify the mods
I'd make a joke about Trouble here, but that would be too much
>do not interact with him, just filter and notify the mods
there is nothing to notify about lol.
Ben still raised his ass though, and from when Pete was a baby. He’s his father, just like May’s his mother. The new universe is an altered 616, not 1610. 616 Ben and May raised Peter from infancy.
>both kids are gingers
rough
This version of Peter must be loaded if he can afford an apartment like this in New York. I wonder what his job is.
I hope it's a senior journalist position, even though I don't like journalists
Science journalist could work too.
>son named after Peter's dad
>daughter named after his uncle
Harry Potter situation again
>You're named after the bravest men I've known, Norman Mephisto Parker
Without the dialogue in the previous teaser, it kinda looked like Richard was being sullen and I immediately jumped to "great, angsty family drama".
Glad to see I was just being a fricking moron.
Angsty family drama would be kino though, that's why he HAS a family
Depends on the execution. And in comics, especially in today's comics, I just have no patience for garbage drama where everyone is acting like complete morons.
Of course, if everyone's insufferable then it will suck. However if Peter has to struggle with balancing his familial duties and his newfound powers, and then maybe Richard doesn't like this new "Spider-Man" very much, that could be excellent drama
Oh yeah, thats fine. Thats the kind I want.
What I meant was that Richard looking sullen in the no-dialogue teaser had me thinking that it was going to be "son is angsty for no real reason and in a 'frick dad' phase blah blah blah" sort of stuff.
Doesn't seem to be the case. And I was probably just overthinking it.
Do people really come to the breakfast table fully dressed and ready to leave, before eating and having their coffee? Seems backwards.
I do. My closet is in my bedroom, the kitchen is closer to the door to leave.
It’s funny most of Peter’s kids in various universes always seem to resemble MJ more than Peter
great looking MJ
looks i bit much like Chechetto Electra but we can't expect for most artist to have more than 10 faces
>milf mj is actually
Based
By office he means the bugle right?
Newspaper buildings have offices too.
She looks no different than her younger self. They just drew young MJ and gave her a ponytail
The dude just drew regular MJ. I wanted MILF MJ with huge boobs and shaped like a pear.
Maybe Pete will put a couple more kids inside her and she'll eventually get a proper MILF body.
Yeah, we still need... *checks notes* Mayday, April, Benjy, Annie, Tonya, AND the two idiots from Life story.
Knock a few more kids into that baby room of hers, Pete. Do it for all the other versions of you that have fallen till now. Do it for love.
I really do wish they'd just pick a couple of names for the kids and reuse them across the different universes.
The kids don't have to be remotely the same, just say they're multiversal variants, but keep the naming list short.
In certain cases, the different names make sense. Like in this story, or in Life Story, the sons can't be Benjy, because he's 17 years younger than Mayday. And none of the daughters can be Annie because she's always born after Mayday was originally born. Beyond even with multiversal stuff, time still matters. The first daughter is likely always Mayday though.
Just something that activated my nerd brain.
>Beyond even with multiversal stuff, time still matters.
Does it? There's a universe where Peter is Spider-man during the Great Depression and another where "Petra" is the direct daughter of May and Ben.
I'd say it does when the desecendants are involved. As it is, Benjy is always 17 years younger because that is how it was when he was first introduced. So even for Noir Peter, his second child would have to be a son born 17 years after his first daughter in order to be Benjy. A daughter born after May would be Annie, before or after her would be Tonya, and if the first birth is twins it'd be April and Mayday of course, etc...
As for Petra, she's definitively not Peter or an alternate counterpart if she's the daughter of Ben and May, she would be Peter's cousin, not his female counterpart. Now, Peni Parker on the other hand... she's a tougher nut to understand.
I'm not saying it's gospel or hard and fast or anything, ofc. But I like consistency and trying to make sense of this. Also, I like the idea that Peter has one very large multiversal family. And an actual, actual family, not like the Batfamily, so he has a bunch of kids who if they met, would probably start a flow chart, being like Peter, and drum up some fun game of figuring out who was born when and in what part of his life.
I'm sure a drawgay will deliver
>Thumb Ring
Oh noooooooooooooooooooo
and that's all for now. I imagine the first leaks will happen pretty soon, the hype for it is high
Call me a pessimist but it feels like things are going TOO well.
You just know things will get worse by the minute once Spider-man shows his ugly face.
The difference between this and ASM is that in the mainline books Peter always gets beaten by the misery and never succeeds anywhere
Of course things will get worse. It wouldn't be much of a Spider-Man story if things didn't get worse. The big difference between this and ASM will be that Peter and his family will go through conflict that will give Peter a reason to get better at balancing his personal life and Spider-Man duties, as opposed to ASM where Peter goes through conflict just for the sake of being tortured.
>Today is, well, you know...
The anniversary of Ben or May's death? Would be kino.
That's a good point.
Unless this was a later retcon I'm thought Peter was dropped off on their doorstep as a child, not as a baby. He had vague memories of his parents.
He even blamed himself for their deaths, though that was introduced during Ben Reilly's run.
is, well, you know.
Their first swinger party
Peter is the type to keep things to himself and handle it on his own. MJ knows him so well she can tell what bothers him, especially if it's bad enough to keep him up at night, is my guess.
Frick yeah I hope so. Sex comics should be the Big 2's future.
>Peter and MJ's first swinger party
>Harry and Liz are there yes I know Spencer killed Harry again frick you
>Flash Thompson and Betty Brant are there
>Felicia Hardy shows up as a unicorn
>Peter and Betty are extremely awkward around each other at the Daily Bugle Monday morning
>J. Jonah Jameson walks in
>"What the frick are you two blushing like schoolgirls for? Did you frick or something? Jesus Christ, Peter, aren't you already married to a supermodel or something?"
>"Anyway, get up off your ass, Parker. I just got news that Spider-Man burned down an orphanage and I want pictures, PRONTO! If they aren't on my desk in one hour, you're fired!"
Needs a full story of this. Somebody get that Hellfire Gala orgy writer on Ao3 to write this.
Disgusting imo
>The anniversary of Ben or May's death? Would be kino.
It would but I don't see why MJ would bring it up first over Peter.
Gwen's death
>The anniversary of Ben or May's death?
More likely it's the anniversary of Gwen's death.
Any colorgays wanna turn the blue into black and make the eyes kind of yellow? I tried, but eh. The guy from the other thread did a great job.
Now see, I'd wonder how that'd work. Peter got out of his shell and came to know Gwen because of his powers. Gwen died because of Spider-Man. Unless they're changing the story like with Spider-Gwen or Life Story, I don't think a powerless Peter and Gwen would have ever been an item. And she also wouldn't have died.
But if they just wanna say "lel yeah she died here too somehow" I wouldn't be surprised. Just disappointed. Only Gwens I liked were Ultimate, MA, and Spectacular.
There was an edit like that here wasn't there?
I honestly figure there's about a 15% chance she'll be Green Goblin.
Harry's obviously first choice but they've done everything with him, and this Ultimate seems to want go the 'twist' route. Otherwise there's Phil Urich or even Stromm himself, but they'll probably want to do something with Gwen Stacy if she's not dead again.
She's already associated in people's minds with the name, and her face under the mask is would turn more heads than the rest. Not to mention they've leaned in on the science background recently and you could tie a chain of events where she never got involved with Peter and instead got a job at Oscorp through her friendship with Harry.
I don't know what will come of these threads.
How's this?
Nta but that’s sick as hell man
that looks really cool
Spider-man but eeeeeevil
Looks good but personally I think the yellow eyes works better with the red and blue color scheme. I think if you go red and black, having white lenses looks better. IMO of course.
pretty stupid to be honest.
>Peter got out of his shell and came to know Gwen because of his powers
Dude, frick off with this headcanon. He wasn’t a shy nerd or anything like that. Stop self-inserting.
Self inserting? homie this is Peter's literal character, frick offoff.
Peter's interactions with Gwen were purely because Peter had become a different person because of his powers and Spider-Man. You're an idiot if you think their relationship would play out the same if he didn't have powers.
If he didn't have powers, and didn't become more sociable after highschool, he would have been the same overly studious science geek that put his studies over anything else, taking any chance of coming across to Gwen as he does with his powers, out of the picture.
All of the maturation and development he got as a result of having to balance his life because of his powers never would have happened. He would be a different person, and things would happen differently. That's the whole point.
>Peter's interactions with Gwen were purely because Peter had become a different person because of his powers and Spider-Man. You're an idiot if you think their relationship would play out the same if he didn't have powers.
You have clearly never read powerless,
Yeah that's true, I haven't.
You should thought
Funny thing is that I have now seen it pop up in about four threads now. It keeps coming up. I'll check it out.
Dude, he was still the same guy he was in HS and college. Still had his bad temper and attitude. He also had a girlfriend in Betty and had her and Liz fighting over him.
Pete asked girls out and tried to invite his classmates to the science exhibit all the way back in AF#15. He was plenty sociable, but was rebuffed by others for being a “square”. It was the 60s, and giving a frick about your education was seen as nerdy back in those days. Today, he’d be fine and have plenty of friends. Dude’s 5’10 and handsome even before the spider powers, he’d be fine. Even in the new Ultimate Universe, he went to the exhibit with Liz.
Seems that decent enough at the beginning that I thought it was implying Spider-Man and MJ will recently divorced.
they wouldn't dare, kek. People are already seething hard over ASM, baiting people to buy this on the grounds of Peter and MJ being married and parents only to reveal a divorce would've gotten Hickman's house being burned down
A household where the parents are on the verge of divorce doesn't sound at all like the dialogue/"vibe" in the preview. There's always a hint of animosity between the couple in any interaction when there is.
>t. parents divorced when I was a teenager
Why does Peter have a orb in a bag
For pondering.
its where he keeps the charts
He will actually be this universe's Mysterio.
Imagine not having an orb
You do have an Orb…right Anon?
>he doesn’t have an orb
Jesus Christ, Anon.
MJ and Peter are separated, but she still lives there for the kids. She's actually dating Paul, and he reveals himself on the next page.
Paul lives with them too, and Peter's kids call him "papa Paul"
What's in the ball?
charts
shave the fricking beard off
It’s much better looking than his goatee during Spider-Girl/MC2
I want to know who thought that was a good idea
that OMD in the corner feels like a bad joke
Peter's fighting against it.
Speaking of OMD well.
Two things always pissed me off about this. One is the frickers believing this was Mayday - no homie Mayday has been dead in 616. Her entire split timeline was based off of what if she lived.
Second was WHY would anyone believe Mephisto at this point? His entire goal was to trap the misery that Peter and MJ would feel not being together and nurse on it like a suckling calf. He would fricking lie to make that misery as worse as possible before finally separating the two of them.
Why would anyone believe a word he said at this point?
>inb4 annie may
Up until RYV it would have been more than likely that Mephisto was lying his ass off just to make Peter's plight worse and people saying 'lol Spidey sold his kid's soul' were just being fricking morons.
you assume these guys read comics
A fundamental flaw
Well at least they were good enough to give us clone gabriel and sarah.
spider-man's story is so convoluted jesus christ
Oh this is nothing just look what they did with Norman.
Satan really does make you do drugs.
>One is the frickers believing this was Mayday - no homie Mayday has been dead in 616. Her entire split timeline was based off of what if she lived
Because Marvel themselves decided to establish that the reason Mephisto targets Spider-Man and does whatever he can to keep him and MJ apart is because Mephisto foresaw that someday he'd take ovet the world, and Mayday Parker would be the person to defeat him.
It'd be real easy to just say "Mary Jane only thought she had a miscarriage. The baby was actually alive because Spider powers and the eternal c**t Madame Webb spirited the baby away somewhere for reasons"
Unless you're going to tell me the Spider-Girl in this image isn't Mayday despite very clearly being Mayday.
Lets get one thing clear, the people saying that it was Mayday, and Marvel deciding years later that Mephisto is super terrified of Mayday, are years apart and divorced of each other. The former is because people don't read comics, the later is because even Marvel doesn't read their comics.
Mayday was and has always been dead in 616. It's to the point that, in RYV, a tangent timeline of 616, that MJ is brought to tears upon meeting Mayday because Mayday was a stillbirth over there too.
The entire thing of Mephisto making that deal to keep Mayday from being born is moot because she was already fricking dead. They're just trying to over explain why he was so interested in separating Pete and MJ, but it's not needed and just brings up a glaringly large, gaping plothole.
>Mayday was and has always been dead in 616. It's to the point that, in RYV, a tangent timeline of 616, that MJ is brought to tears upon meeting Mayday because Mayday was a stillbirth over there too.
Hell, even in Spider-Verse Peter still remembers Mayday as the daughter he was supposed to have... but didn't get to have, because she died. Mayday's time in 616 was never supposed to happen, and that's why 982 exists. The entire thing with Mephisto is beyond moronic no matter how Marvel tries to justify it.
While I understand what you're saying, we're going to end up going in circles.
To make things simple, I'm just going to greentext some shit and you tell me what you agree and don't agree with.
>Spider-Man making a deal with Mephisto was moronic then
>It's moronic now
>It will be moronic tomorrow
>It will still be moronic even if they retcon it
>Using Mayday as justification for the why of it is moronic
>Mephisto doing it because of Mayday is still canon because Marvel is moronic
>Retconning Mayday being stillborn is entirely possible because Marvel has retconned far more significant shit than this in far more asinine ways.
>616 Spider-Man has been in a downward spiral since One More Day
>Spider-Man's entire supporting cast has been progressively getting worse since One More Day
>Especially his love interests
>ESPECIALLY MJ and Felicia
>All of this and more can and possibly will be retconned eventually
>We're all just here in these threads to suffer
>
Mayday was and has always been dead in 616. It's to the point that, in RYV, a tangent timeline of 616, that MJ is brought to tears upon meeting Mayday because Mayday was a stillbirth over there too.
The entire thing of Mephisto making that deal to keep Mayday from being born is moot because she was already fricking dead. They're just trying to over explain why he was so interested in separating Pete and MJ, but it's not needed and just brings up a glaringly large, gaping plothole.
>While I understand what you're saying, we're going to end up going in circles.
>To make things simple, I'm just going to greentext some shit and you tell me what you agree and don't agree with.
-Man making a deal with Mephisto was moronic then
>>It's moronic now
>>It will be moronic tomorrow
>>It will still be moronic even if they retcon it
Mayday as justification for the why of it is moronic
doing it because of Mayday is still canon because Marvel is moronic
Mayday being stillborn is entirely possible because Marvel has retconned far more significant shit than this in far more asinine ways.
>>616 Spider-Man has been in a downward spiral since One More Day
-Man's entire supporting cast has been progressively getting worse since One More Day
his love interests
MJ and Felicia
>>All of this and more can and possibly will be retconned eventually
it will never get retconned.
>>We're all just here in these threads to suffer
I just don't agree with
>Mephisto doing it because of Mayday >Retconning Mayday being stillborn
>Remember Spidey's kid? Remember how Ben told Peter to tell her about her Uncle Ben? Remember how she died?
>Yeah actually naw she didn't die.
>That deal with the devil? Yeah that was to stop her from being born.
>What? She was dead for years by that point? Nah, you're dreaming dear reader, it never happened. False.
>An alternate universe predicated entirely on what if she had actually survived that started over a decade before the deal storyline existed? That's crazy talk.
>So anyway yeah Mephisto has big plans and is totally one step ahead, we're not trying to desperately come up with anything at all.
You're right of course about... everything, unfortunately, because Marvel is fricking moronic, but it really is a slap in the face to do that, just pissing on your head and calling it rain. And then seeing people go "Well done Marvel" like it's actually a genius move, dear Lord, that pisses me off.
Mayday is inevitable. MJ, Gwen, Felicia, Cindy, Chat, the mother doesn’t matter. All that matters that as long as Spidey has a daughter, she’ll always be Mayday.
Can someone post the image that references that bit in Superior but it's Mephisto and Mayday instead of Norman and Peter saying "It's you" and "The one and only"?
lol peter hasn't caught a break in over a decade at this point
Spencer's run was literally a 3 year break.
let's be real here - it was an illusion of a break. I know it probably wasn't what he wanted, but that's what we have to deal with now.
Three years is three years. And with asm being bi monthly it was a ton of issues. And tbh we're probably going to alternate from now on at worst.
I like that spencer fixed some a lot of slotts shit like CEO peter, but after that his run felt pretty aimless. Loved the art Ottley did for it though
The beard is sick
Ultimate Peter cosplays as Paul. It’s the only way he got Mary Jane.
MJ likes bearde men better across the multiverse. That's her canon event
get fricked, Peter is awesome with a beard/stubble/unshaven. This was always true
And it really is better than that goatee honestly
Hickman likes his beards. Easy signifier of age/maturity/weariness
You’re just jealous you can’t grow a beard yourself
The beard is terrible and needs to meet a painful death.
It looks great, what's the problem?
here for the seething at hickman
where are the charts my homie
Frick your charts, Tony
frick you steve
they'rE IN THE ORB
>Dad your orb is screaming again
>I told you not to mess with it Richard
>diiiissssplllaaaaayyyy mmmyyyyy chhhaaaaaarrrttsss
lol this will go down as being a real fast spider-man thread.
I am gonna say it
It annoys me that the kids have ginger hair instead of auburn or dark red like MJ
It usually gets darker as they age
bullshit.
Just a schizoid, pay no attention to morons like him
ignore him and don't reply to his spam. Just mark his posts to the mods and some cheeto dusted individual will eventually get to it
Title of the thread is Spider-Man not Ultimate Spider-Man so this not spam that being the case here.
lol they will not apparentely you did not read the title of the thread so alas this is not spam.
Read the tiltle of thread this not a Ultimate Spider-Man but rather a spider-man one so.
Imma make a pull list for this Hickman, but I will can it the MOMENT that you introduce miles be warned
Prepare yourself.
oh yes clones and jackal will be in this maybe even sooner then you think.
Fingers crossed for Multiplicity shenanigans.
>Peter, Peter, you have to get up.
>"Mmrr..."
>"Unnnh..."
>"You're going to be late!"
>"Honey, please-"
>"Let's make another clone..."
>"Peter please no I can barely handle one of you"
>but I will can it the MOMENT that you introduce miles be warned
If Miles was in this or at all relevant Marvel would have forced Hickman to make him show up in the covers or previews.
Miguel would be the only non-Peter Spider-Man I'd want to see, but I guess that won't happen. The suit being teased on a cover made me hopeful, but it just might be an alt sit for Peter
I’m fine with them just letting Hickman use petes supporting cast. Even without him being spider-man in high school he has a decent amount of well established characters to adapt and play with.
alas norman never really had Gwen
And that's related how? This is usm.
Will jannies do anything since it's so clearly spam?
>And that's related how? This is usm.
No it is not the title says Spider-Man not Ultimate Spider-Man learn to read.
If someone retcons it, it will be retcon of the retconned retcon...Jesus
Nothing on Donna Troy
Why can't Gwengays just move on?
autism. You can also help him move on by letting the mods know. They'll help (hopefully)
>Why can't Gwengays just move on?
Have them revive 616 Gwen and we will
They did, Spider-Gwen is now permanently in 616!
But even then you can’t be happy. It’s sad.
So what does that matter Spider-Gwen is not 616 Gwen.
She is. She’s Gwen and she’s in 616 :^)
But she is not 616 Gwen.
The fact that you need that to move on proves you can't move on.
>The fact that you need that to move on proves you can't move on.
They did the wrong thing by having Gwen killed she should have not have died it should have been may instead
They did, in the first clone saga. Peter himself said he had no feeling left for Gwen and her return pretty much almost ruined his relationship with MJ and turned him crazy because of the guilt.
>They did, in the first clone saga. Peter himself said he had no feeling left for Gwen and her return pretty much almost ruined his relationship with MJ and turned him crazy because of the guilt.
Oh please everyone knows Peter never got over Gwen's death and this proves it.
I think we can say that Married Peter, pre OMD, was much better adjusted and matured. He made his peace and moved on from Gwen because he had MJ in totality. This Peter though is post-OMD, so all of his development that was gained because MJ was in his life, as his wife, never got to happen.
In that way post-OMD is like the alternate timeline that never. Fricking. Ends. I wonder what the Peter who didn't take the deal is up to now.
>He made his peace and moved on from Gwen
Romantically, I mean. He would never forgive Norman, especially not after Sins Past, and he would still absolutely curbstomp Norman on principle if he started to act up. But as far as 'muh Gwen', no, Peter wouldn't carry her torch anymore.
I wonder if the Sins Past retcon applies to Pre-OMD too? I guess it would have to, because it goes even further before Peter and MJ's marriage, so the deal wouldn't have affected it...
>I wonder if the Sins Past retcon applies to Pre-OMD too?
maybe, but you could very easily claim it would still happen as it did pre-retcon. There's not a lot to really go on either way since the story we ended up getting regarding Kindred ended up such a convoluted mess. I'd say the biggest issue here isn't even whether or not Sins Past would still have been a thing, but whether or not Norman's deal with Mephisto even existed pre-OMD. It makes no sense to be a thing with the way Norman was characterized, no matter how much casuals like to say it makes perfect sense for Norman.
Sins Past shouldn't have happened to begin with. Having Gwen frick Norman out of nowhere was obviously just cheap shock value. And because everyone knew it was a mistake, they scrambled to patch things up and overcorrected with that convoluted retcon, as always.
They only double down on bad decisions these days. Retconning Sins Past was just out of a desperate effort to preserve One More Day, which editorial considers central and vital, out of a combination of misanthropy and schizophrenia.
You know what's more likely to happen? Some other hack comes along and recanonizes Sins Past for shock value yet again.
Gwenschizo better watch out, and if he wasn't moronic he'd be just as desperate to escape the increasingly degraded and baggage laden 616 continuity.
>Some other hack comes along and recanonizes Sins Past for shock value yet again.
I mean, I would do that kek. But I am a Normansimp so you at least understand where I'm coming from. I would have Peter beat the shit out of Mephisto and nut inside MJ tho, so there's at least that.
>Normansimp
Very based, my friend. Hopefully in Ultimate, Harry will man up and finally Uphold the Legacy.
Either that or they'll have to reveal that Norman faked his own death, is actually leading the Illuminati now instead of the Maker, and killed Emily Osborn on purpose to get with his mistress Gwen Stacy.
Just Norman things.
very based ideas, fellow Norman enjoyer. Id only Marvel could see it our way...
They never will you can be sure of that.
I don't think any of this happens anymore anon since it's obvious that OMD will never get undone. Maybe things would have worked out better for Peter had Gwen lived after all.
There was a what if about that. Peter ended up revealing his identity to Gwen, Norman reveals it to the public, and JJJ being a scumfrick used that to storm in on him with police, forcing Peter into hiding.
Personally, I prefer the Spider-punisher's take on things.
Ultimate is the undoing of OMD we always wanted, frankly. We don't owe Amazing or 616 anything, and pretty much every book aside from maybe Moon Knight, Fantastic Four, and Dr. Strange is complete fricking garbage right now anyways, and Amazing is the worst its ever been.
I'm totally fine with tuning out Amazing completely and seeing what Hickman does. No more continuity confusion over OMD. No more shitty self inserts. No more manchild Peter.
>No more shitty self inserts
desu, this can still happen
On a bad self-insert scale, someone like Carlie Cooper is like a 5/10.
Paul is a solid 12/10, I'm appalled at how defensive the homosexuals writing this shit are about this cardboard cutout of a genocidal rapist.
fair enough, Paul really is peak shit in that regard.
I don't think it'll happen during Hickman's tenure. But the moment he gets booted because USM is more popular than ASM you can guarantee they'll put a character assassinator of the highest level on the book
Just read the latest unlimited comic, RYV peter moved on and still says that sometimes he still remembers her, but he moved on thanks to Mary Jane.
Now he is giving to Kamen Insectoid Earth Peter the same talk, move on and live with his Gwen Stacy since his Mary Jane died to giant centipede Green Goblin
The latest batman comic kinda threw a "Terry McGinnis is inevitable" into the Zur homosexualry since Beyond/White Knight Old Man BruceZur is the only sane person there while the others are insane, which ended with said bruce getting beaten by edgelord movie zur.
The thing is, Marvel wants her to be a hero disconectedd from peter when in all universes she takes the Spider Woman mantle.
It did with terry? God the current run is so dumb.
Because all other batmans called Beyond Old Bruce a weakling for trusting his future to a new generation(who is doing well) not tied to them while all others made fricking failsafe, even DKR who shat on Carrie as Batwoman it seems to have made failsafe and Bruce's hand off it as a connection to the zur multiversal mainframe
Oh I gotta read this.
If DKR is Dark Knight Returns like I think it is, that jackass has zero place to talk in a room full of Batman.
Is White Knight STILL going?
I really dislike beyond as a "good" future, and the whole failsalfe/zur stuff is so dumb, so this is all even dumber. Doeant really fit half those batmans either tbh.
Terry being "Inevitable" is fine though. He's far enough in the future that it kind of doesn't matter. You could theoretically have every existing Robin pick up the mantle of Batman one after the other, ending with Damian, and still have enough leeway for Terry to pick it up without stepping on any toes that actually matter.
It doesn't hurt that fans generally like Terry.
I feel terry works only in the context of an AU, not as the main future, at least not with bruce in the old man role, that is a massive bad ending for bruce that ends up treating the phantasam thing as gospel for bruce when half the dcau batman stories are undermined with that angle. Making damian the old wayne works a bit better, but damian being batman is HIS bad end too, so its kinda that issue.
This is a Spider-Man thread so I don't want to devolve into Batman discussion, but you do realize that just because one version of a character exists in sub-optimal conditions, that doesn't mean all versions of that character must live in those same sub-optimal conditions, right?
You can write Terry to exist as an inevitable replacement without making Bruce an old miserable frick just because Batman Beyond did it.
Absolutely, i dont even dislike beyond, i just dont like it as the ending to dcau batman. Tho beyond is very spidey-esque so its not the worst fitting thing to talk about here.
I do think naturally the others that have a pre-existing tie to bruce make more natural sucessors, so it either needs bruce to implode his relationships with them, convolute the situation so a random teen's batman rather than them, or making him suceed one of them.
Easy enough.
Damian, as the biological son of Bruce, inevitably becomes Batman.
Damian, taking after his father, recruits young people to be part of the mission.
You can even have an old Bruce still around helping Damian how he can. Could even have him married to Selina and Helena be around as Damian's little sister and Batgirl, while Terry serves as a Robin or Nightwing before eventually taking the cowl himself.
Done.
I dont particularly like damian as batman and its clearly his bad ending as a character. Regardless i did say it was an option lmao. "making him suceed one of them". I didnt say it was hard.
Making terry a sideckick totally ruins the base appeal tho
>plural
It's one polak
>Why can't Gwengays just move on?
What about MJ gays have they moved on from the fact that 616 MJ cheated on Peter with Paul? I rest my case anon.
Gwen cheated with Norman Osborn, you have no ground to stand on
that's why Felicia is best girl
When do we suspect we get to see black cats in this universe? We never get to see her and renew your vows spider-man.
I bet she'll come up as a love triangle type deal when Peter's getting more used to his new powers in 10-15 issues
Hickman doesn't do love triangles he does threesomes.
Provide some examples of his threesomes.
Logan/jean/Scott and he implied Scott was still fricking Emma
HOLY SHIT WE WON
>Gwen cheated with Norman Osborn, you have no ground to stand on
lol spencer made it non-canon remember.
Being a Gwen gay must really suck if your saving grace is Nick "famously pro-MJ" Spencer
>Being a Gwen gay must really suck if your saving grace is Nick "famously pro-MJ" Spencer
I addmit that the recton should have been handled better but that's not spencer's fault but rather marvel editoral. Still I am happy anyway since Sins Past is no longer canon.
Foreinger dude..
>that's why Felicia is best girl
>steals his blood to sell to his enemies
>has a mental breakdown seeing him without his mask on
>refuses to frick without the mask on
>leaves after fricking
>fricks his colleagues and friends
>For most of their history until he gets married she only loves Spider-Man and is disgusted with Peter Parker, wanting little to nothing to do with him
>Only "grows up " (funny word for not being an emotionally traumatizing c**t) after he no longer is interested in her and has MJ
Yeah sure anon, she sure is best girl
why would anyone fight for a female support character from a comicbook in 2024?
Because nobody really likes Spider-Gwen that's why.
not even stan lee cared about gwen why would anyone care about any version of this character
Actually stan did care about Gwen you know nothing anon nothing at all.
wake up man, that girl you liked in highschool is not the only woman on the earth
Your first love is what truly matters sure other girls may enter your life but your first love is what truly matters since that love is usually the most strongest comapred to the later ones.
Still a better love story than the Spider-man who gobs in ASM recently
>Peter has literally said out loud no less than 4 times since she died that he loves MJ more than he ever loved Gwen.
At least your character is (mostly) dead and you don’t have to watch the writers sabotage their story to ruin her. THAT’S what you have to look forward to if your monkey paw wish gets granted anon
Wdym spider-man comics ended in 2008 with some cool one shots since
That won't happen since they once ruined OG Gwen only later to have her fixed making her look bad again would make marvel lool plain dumb.
They're not actually fans of Gwen or Peter's relationship with her, they're just trying to make people mad.
It's literally just one single shitposter who's able to hold every Spider-Man thread on Cinemaphile hostage with his boring spam, because the jannies don't give a frick about actually dealing with him for some bizarre reason. He's been doing this dumb shtick practically every day for like two years now, and I've only ever seen him get banned once or twice. Pretty sure he was even doing this over Christmas as well.
It's boggling how one lone autist is able to completely and consistently ruin threads all on his own. Say what you want about reddit and other forums, but at least there a homosexual like this would be banned the instant he tried spamming for the first time.
This. He's just doing it to shitpost.
Is Peter gonna mentor teen tony
Ngl I really wanted armored adventures to try that for an episode.
>Old Peter
>Young Tony
This ultimate universe seem like a wild ride.
>doom Reed
>Buddhist genocidal Hulk
You can say that again
I loathe him & his shows but some lindelof hulk mite b cool
old peter will probably have the same role tony or reed has in 616
>Wakanda is at war with a neighboring country
Finally, a realistic depiction of Africa.
yep
Nothing of interests so far. Art looks nice though.
Been wondering does anyone know the song from the trailer?
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why do the mods hate us?
so is this a sequel to the ultimate spider-man? Like the series from the 00s. The one where he died.. but then came back and said "frick everything" and gave it all to Miles?
no. It's kinda confusing, but this is a new Ultimate universe.
>why use the name then?
it's familiar. I guess Marvel might also consider the Ultimate name as something to use for alt universes (that don't take place in a future setting, hence why no 2099 as the main contender for that)
well.. okay then. I guess I can jump into this with no backstory then
>why use the name
it is a universe modified by the whims of reed richards of 1610 (the original ultimate) to be the replacement
That and Donny Cates got into some problems as he was supposed to be working on this, and Hickman got brought in to do his own thing instead
I really like Donny Cates but I doubt it would be better
>I really like Donny Cates
See, Venom is one of the best-selling comics since he wrote it. You can’t argue with results.
cates can only write action figures being mashed into each other
>hulk is stronger
>no thor is
ad infinitum
and this is better than the self-insert crap they are currently writing
"Best selling" doesn't mean a whole lot when even the best selling books these days sell like crap.
I enjoyed Remender's Agent Venom run
I enjoyed most of his stuff & would happily accept more big 2 cape shit from him
I'm usually a strict Peter/Ben/Kainegay but Remender's Agent Venom gave me an entirely unexpected appreciation for Flash. One that sadly did not transfer over into Bendis's spaceknight bullshit or the Spider-Island what if.
But he wrote a damn good Flash. I'll always remember his run fondly for that alone.
I would've been more fond of Remender's Venom if he didn't feel the need to kill off Pat off-screen and make Toxin just another lame symbiote.
I really liked the "by the book cop/bratty kid symbiote" dynamic and would've loved to see more of it..
I was literally going to bring that up, but it would undercut what I sad lol. Me b***hing about poor Pat is a whole separate thing. Toxin going from the symbiote that broke the mold to another notch on Eddie's belt annoyed the hell out of me.
I wasn't a fan of Eddie after that. Good thing too, because shit around him has been awful.
It was good but infested with tie-ins
I wonder what Cates would have done in Hickman's position
MJ is gonna be the breadwinner
Peter mentions late nights and heading to the office.
He has a job but Mary Jane is gonna be working as a world famous model most likely, that pulls in most of the money
>Mary Jane is gonna be working as a world famous model most likely
Ew no. It’s a dumb idea.
Why? That's literally what she is known for in 616
nta but last night I just remembered she owned a club. I wonder what happened to that.
It burned down twice in Slott's run and then Spencer kinda ignored it iirc. They should bring it back, that was a fun addition
>is actually married to Mary-Jane instead of just rooming with her
>has actual children instead of fakes created by his dad
>has an actual job and an income
>has birth certificate, valid ID, and Social Security Number
>did not murder billions of people by accident
PAULBROS WHY DO WE KEEP LOSING
Not kill billions of people by accident and do we know what Spider-Man's job is in this universe?
It’s got something to do with that orb in his bag, so I’m thinking something science related.
Except another preview showed him at the Daily Bugle. But maybe it wasn’t as an employee?
>Paul doesn’t even have US citizenship and is basically an illegal immigrant living inside MJ’s house.
Guys I don’t think they thought through Paul’s backstory in the slightest.
No new universe. Made by the Reed Richards from the old ultimate that basically went evil.
what dirt does the schizo have on the mods that they never fricking do anything about that dumb, spamming shit?
Again read the title of thread instead of getting angry it says Spider-Man not Ultimate Spider-Man learn to read buddy.
Make a callous post
In my experience, when an incessant, prolific shitposter/spammer like this who does it every single fricking day is going almost completely unchecked, it's either because:
>the jannies don't care about the threads the trolling is happening in, regardless of how many reports come in, so they just let it happen
OR
>the jannies are friends with the shitposter, or perhaps even the shitposter is a janny himself, so they deliberately protect him
You might think the latter is too outlandish, even for Cinemaphile, but I've seen it happen elsewhere. You'd get a ban for complaining about the fact that the shitposter there was protected, while the shitposter would just keep spamming his nonsense like nobody's business
I've actually kamikaze'd myself on numerous occasions by posting porn and/or gore (don't remember which) to see how mods would react.
Naturally mods only deleted my posts but left the schizoBlack person's untouched, so he's certainly sucking up to jannytrannies or is one of them.
What is the deal here? Is this really the Ultimate universe? Is this what would have become of Ultimate Spidey had he not been killed by Goblin?
here
Nope, new universe. The maker travel in a universe who didn't have its superhero yet and start shit up.
On the few things on top of my head
>Howard is Iron Man and Obadiah Stane is War Machine
>Tony is a teen and Iron Lad (might become Kang too)
>The FF are dead except Reed, who became Dr Doom
>Odin got killed and Loki took his place
>Hulk became a buddhist monk who is the leader of a monk nation and use satellites to obliterate peoples.
>Colossus and Magik are Russia's leaders
>Black Panther and Moon Knight are at war with each others.
>Storm is Killmonger's GF
>Peter never got bitten as a teen. Married MJ and had non powered kids.
>Captain America is probably the only one who didn't change
never got bitten as a teen. Married MJ and had non powered kids.
How much do you want to bet they just She-Hulk one of the kids?
That is, one of them (Likely May, because it's always a Peter daughter) gets severely injured by some villain or another, and is so in danger of bleeding out with MJ and Richard so far away the only safe bet to get her the blood she needs is to take it right from a now powered up Peter.
Honestly my bet is that richard will be this setting's venom or something
>Initial 6160 is just setting up various heroes and villains and super organizations
>A married Peter as Spider-Man was never the lasting intention
>Setting does a time skip in 1-2 years
>May is now a teenager, goes by her full name Mayday as a civilian, goes by Spider-Woman (No Jessica to take it first) as a hero, and is the main spider hero of the setting now after Green Goblin's fall from grace saw him take Spider-Man's leg.
>Goes through this universe's symbiote saga
>Richard becomes Venom
How would people react?
>bait and switch, Spidey edition
Nah f amalam
I doubt the two year thing, since the main premise of hte book is that there's 2 years before the dome opens, and with issue 1 it seems to be in kinda real time? As its jan of 2023.
2024 sorry
have a nice day
One night a Polish hobo who was known only as "The Goblin" for his unspeakable ugliness and manletism got really drunk and fricked a pig in the nearby barn. Fearing that he'd be caught by the farmer and forced to do what he hated the most, which was to actually work and have a steady job, he retreated to places unknown never to be seen again. Sometime later the gwenschizo is born. Growing up without a father and inheriting the ugliest traits of both his parents lead to him becoming a friendless loser no one wanted to play with which led to him developing the resentment for this so-called "Goblin".
One day he found a stash of Sins Past floppies in the school bathroom after all the kids in his class took turns dunking him face-first into the toilet for being annoying. He instantly fell in love with Gwen Stacy as she was the only girl he ever seen who seemed prostituteish enough to actually be willing to frick him instead of just laughing at him or kicking him in the balls (though due to their size most girls missed the mark so they just chose to laugh) like every other girl did. However that was darkened by her being fricked by Green Goblin which instantly brought up all the bad memories and Mary Jane reminded him of one redheaded girl who actually did somehow manage to consistently kick him in his tiny balls with 100% accuracy. Foaming at the mouth gwenschizo was escorted out of the school and thrown in the dumpster because nobody cared to take him home. Years later gwenschizo found Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile by accident while looking for CP because outside of Gwen Stacy it was the only thing that gave him an erection. Stumbling upon Cinemaphile threads decades of humiliation took their toll and the age of schizophrenic ramblings began. Finding kindred spirits in fellow eunuchs and trannies aka Cinemaphile moderation team, gwenschizo began his reign of sucking a fat wiener.
So how long till he dies and is replaced by new ultimate miles as the true ultimate spider-man
It isn’t much, but this was one of the first times in a long time that the preview pages of Spider-Man didn’t piss me off in some way.
That’s enough to make me comfortable with the idea that they should shutter Amazing in favor of Ultimate. Even if it’s average, it’s not actively repellant like Amazing, so far.
Lost hunt? Ben Reilly? Joe fixit?
let's see if hickman will have his dream come true of becoming an editor of a comic book line
Is this version of spider-man possibly going to have organic we shooters? Because I can't really imagine how adult married peter with two kids is gonna pull off making that shit.
Why not? The production of web comes in connection with his powers. He knows how to build one that works the way it does precisely because of the spider bite. However, to differentiate, I think they should give him natural shooters.
Since when? I've been out of the loop for a while. The spider bite gives peter the knowledge to make a webshooter? That's moronic.
He gains knowledge inherited from the spider about how to produce the webs chemically. And honestly, this was brilliant for the 60s. However, it also adds to the character's innate genius, in addition to the gain provided by the radioactivity in his blood.
The 90s show
>He knows how to build one that works the way it does precisely because of the spider bite.
That sounds like some garbage introduced by spider-verse and its offshoots to justify how the imitations have webbing.
Peter built the webshooters on his own merits, not because of the bite. If you want to get on the meta side of things, in JMS it was tongue in cheek implied he chose to call himself spider-man because of the bite, when he could have called himself anything. But he chose the webs, he chose the iconography. At the same time, in the same run, it's also said, "No he was bitten by a spider of course he'd call himself spider-man".
Peter just happens to be a genius who was able to put together webfluid after getting his powers. He may have been inspired by them to use make the recipe into webbing, but bite didn't magically teach him how to do it.
But it wouldn't make sense if he didn't gain powers, skills and knowledge from a
"Spider" being that he was bitten by one.
Him being a genius only complements this, seeing as Miles was bitten by a spider and has no intelligence whatsoever and, apparently, doesn't even know how to produce web fluid.
The instinctive will and comfort in being in dark and high corners, the way of fighting that naturally resembles a spider, the way he carries himself (he used to jump a lot in fights, and for some reason they forgot that) has always reminded him of one. Obviously, because he was bitten by a spider and became a human spider.
>The instinctive will and comfort in being in dark and high corners, the way of fighting that naturally resembles a spider, the way he carries himself (he used to jump a lot in fights, and for some reason they forgot that) has always reminded him of one. Obviously, because he was bitten by a spider and became a human spider.
That's because Peter was, and is always, the best fit for the Spider. He is THE Spider-Man. The Spider chose him above everyone else.
Besides that, again, Peter already had the innate genius and capacity to revolutionize chemistry with his own man made adhesive product. After being bitten, he warped it to a more utilitarian use for performance, as he wanted to do cool stuff on tv originally.
I say that the powers magically imbuing him with knowledge takes away from his innate genius. That is all on him and it detracts from his character to say that it was given to him like a hand out.
For Miles, I agree. And while Ultimate Peter had continued his father's research but completed it and then chose, just like Peter, to warp it to fit the spider powers, he still made it his own. Peter is just "That Guy", the powers and identity work best with him. That's why nearly all offshoots and copycats either don't have webs, or have convenient organic webbing.
Funny how even Bendis managed to understand something, at the time (even though he's the guy who distorted the meaning of it), that recent writers can't understand about Spider-Man. This explains a lot about the quality of the magazine and his inconsistent characterization.
Spider-Man being the sum of his parts is something much more fundamental than just a brand of clothing and a set of relatively generic powers.
More than the sum of his parts you mean? But yeah, Peter, being Peter, makes those powers a quantative leap that others just can't get. Even Ben Reilly. Peter's just the man.
Also did Bendis really? If so, yeah it's an extremely poignant point that's unique to Peter. I'm surprised he would posit something like that considering his characterization of Peter and how he pretty much started the dilution of the character.
>Spider-Man being the sum of his parts is something much more fundamental than just a brand of clothing and a set of relatively generic powers.
Tell that to Adidas
It's just spam from the resident troll.
Report them for spam, and then report the spammer's smug ESL "lol this isn't spam sir look at the title good sir" replies for trolling. Occasionally, reporting actually does something.
What would you guys like to see from a PeterFelicia AU?
I haven't read a ton of Spider-Man comics but are there any stories of him when he was younger growing up like Superboy comics used to be?
Try Amazing Fantasy #15 and ASM #1-100
theres no miles thread up atm so...
lol
>miles can now see through walls if he focuses hard enough!!!! guys his spider-sense is totally weaker than peters!!!
Peter can, or could, do that to. For the time Shattered Dimensions was considered canon (it was for Ultimate for sure), the boost Spidey got to his spider-sense had that included. Even Migs temporarily got his own spider-sense.
But yeah Miles getting gibs is bullshit ng l
>For the time Shattered Dimensions was considered canon (it was for Ultimate for sure)
Since when? The only game that was considered canon for Ultimate far as I know was the OG Ultimate Spider-Man, before Bendis in all his wisdom of King Shitmidas retconned it with a much shittier retelling of it.
Since the game released to just after Peter died in ultimate. Eventually it was dropped however, much like the USM game.
This little homie is Daredevil now? lol Marvel is so fricking pathetic. Toss Miles into the trash already.
>Morales' Spider sense starts malfunctioning or straight up not working.
>It's waning ability is attributed to his mental state which is overtaxed with his mounting pressures.
>Miles sees Doc. Samson in order to refocus himself
>His mental exercises he employs are actually useful to train and expand his Spider sense powers.
Yep, it's manufactured outrage again. Spider sense was always something that could be expanded to the level of assassin Spider with some training. Come back with a real complaint
>miles sees a therapist
>this results in him getting a daredevil power
It’s shit. At least have him actually train for it like Peter did back in the day
That is training moron. what don't you understand about it?
>Peter having to make an entirely new martial art for unique to him to compensate for him temporarily losing his spider sense
>Miles just going to a therapist and suddenly getting power number 563
Oh yeah you’re right that’s exactly the same thing
Peter's power was a gimmick instantly undone by the next writer to get a hold of him. No more useful than a gimmick suit to beat a villain.
Miles was a core evolution of abilities on the path of improvement.
Peter’s path of improvement led to him making a name for himself as Spider-Man in the superhero community and becoming known as its heart and soul, all the while accruing a great deal of close friends in his personal life.
Miles’s path of improvement is getting new powers handed to him and clinging to the Spider-Man name like a parasite.
lol
That is not training. You have never trained for anything in your life and that is painfully obvious
>Assassin Spidey
>Trained nonstop with a legendary combat vet that could turn normal people into Black Widows capable of fighting against or alongside Captain America, as well as wolverine himself
>Regular Spider-Man
>Has to be trained by Daredevil =, a master in other senses, because he's temporarily blind, or have years of experience to develop his spider-sense or have none at all and be trained extensively by Shang-Chi to complement his spider-sense with actual martial arts and kinesiology
>Miles
>...He went to a therapist for a little bit
In a better story, Pete training to improve his spider senses would’ve happened pretty early on in his career, not decades after.
Therapy works for first world problems since it’s just venting your issues to a third party. It ain’t a fix all since it doesn’t do shit against actually serious issues. THAT you need actual action to fix. Words are cheap, but actions are everything.
Cool pic. Peni looks amazimg with the tired eyes but Miles looks off. He doesn't look like Miles.
>we
Wait so is this a continuation of the Ultimate stuff or a reboot?
No I won't google it.
>Wait so is this a continuation of the Ultimate stuff or a reboot?
Neither. Not related to the Ultimate universe at all. They're just using the Ultimate name.
Maker/Ultimate Reed messed with the 616 timeline and created an alternate universe. Age of Makerpocalypse basically.
>Maker/Ultimate Reed messed with the 616 timeline and created an alternate universe. Age of Makerpocalypse basically.
Uhhh, that's not what happened. The Maker found a universe that is very similar to Ultimate Universe (Earth-6160) and altered it to be the way he wanted his original universe to be.
Man, you're dumb. The whole point of the first issue and start of the second issue of Ultimate Invasion was that he's just spinning off an alternate 616. Its what the "would you erase me from history if you could" question to Reed is all about. Because thats what Maker is about to do.
Why do you think the title page is a bubble saying 616 with the a ton of tiny lines emerging from it? And then after Maker goes through the portal, the bubble is changed to "..." followed by the next page where the bubble is now "6160".
Even in the second issue, the memory log of the catalysts of this universe's heroes is labeld "BR-616".
You have to be brain damaged and illiterate to not figure this out.
Do they give a reason why 6160 Tony is a teenager when 616 Tony is older than his universe's Peter?
Nah. It just so happen that the Maker decided to establish his experiment on a earth where Peter is older than Tony.
I already said this, but Hickman's Ultimate universe would make for a sick Marvel Ultimate Alliance.
>Ultimate
Hope there's no Peter Darker in it.
I tear up every time I think of this picture.
Thanks so much anon, seriously this looks sensational.
That drawing for Ultimate Spider-Man was the thing that convinced me to read it, but I was disappointed in what I got. Uncle Ben gets pushed to the wayside very early on in USM, instead focusing on Richard Parker's long forgotten experiments coming back to bite Peter in the ass.
Cry more, racists.
Look at this triggered little cuck lol
Says the crybaby
>N-NO! Y-Y-Y-Y-YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S CRYING!!111
Lmao
>all those characters saying "the thing"
Peculiar way of homaging Bendis
I want to see the villains.
praying Miles never shows up in this series
He probably will once this gets popular enough as an attempt to leech off of it. Unless Miles falls into irrelevancy completely by then.
>preview thread has more posts than the ASM storytime
it's over
lol it means nothing hickman's book will not last long.
You feel really threatened and frightened by the positive reception Ultimate is getting, and that's extremely funny to me.
You are deeply and overpoweringly insecure about Amazing's status compared to Ultimate, and everything you post is either delusion or cope.
This is the only thing coming out of Marvel or DC in the last couple of years that has genuine excitement behind it.
>ou feel really threatened and frightened by the positive reception Ultimate is getting, and that's extremely funny to me.
What postive reception? so far all people have seen are the preview pages for the first issue for all we know the rest of the book may out to be shit. In fact I woud not be suprised if this turns out to be the case, and later a different writer will no doubt replace hickman and he will no doubt crap on Ultimate making it bad.
>What postive reception?
I have never seen Cinemaphile genuinely excited for anything related to Spider-Man for the last several years, up until Ultimate was announced. Amazing Spider-Man and 616 is routinely crucified on X/Twitter with only a handful of apologists here and there to get shouted down, whereas there is immense positive buzz for Ultimate.
Sure, it's more likely that a good book eventually turns bad, rather than the reverse. But Ultimate looks really good, and Amazing looks really bad, right now.
And I'd give much, much better odds that Amazing will keep on staying bad, no matter who is writing, because Nick Lowe will always be the editor, and he hates the fans and wants to spite them. And he wants to spite you and hurt you too, which is why he green-lit Spider Gwen permanently replacing the OG Gwen. He's not your friend, he's not your buddy, and he wants to screw you over just as much as he does everyone else.
>And I'd give much, much better odds that Amazing will keep on staying bad, no matter who is writing, because Nick Lowe will always be the editor, and he hates the fans and wants to spite them. And he wants to spite you and hurt you too, which is why he green-lit Spider Gwen permanently replacing the OG Gwen. He's not your friend, he's not your buddy, and he wants to screw you over just as much as he does everyone else.
Spider-Gwen is not OG Gwen replacment in any way first of all 616 Gwen never had any superpowers and secondly she had a completely different character.
I know, that anon, and you know that. But Nick Lowe doesn't care, and he's the one who approved this decision. Because it's a bad choice that'll make more people angry, and he's the type of guy that wants to do it on purpose.
The only way lowe would get fans to get truly angry would be for Peter and Spider-Gwen to become a hot item and that he won't do then again this is marvel we are talking about. it would be ironic really Peter marries a alternative version of Gwen now what would 616 Gwen think about it I wonder lol.
>I have never seen Cinemaphile genuinely excited for anything related to Spider-Man for the last several years
What about the JMD minis
What Spider-Man Peter Parker characters
do you want to see the most in the new Ultimate Universe that has not been confirmed?
You know if y’all just ignored the Gwen gay he’d get tired of it. Don’t respond, don’t talk about them, don’t wonder why janitors don’t take care of them. Just ignore.
nice job summoning him, c**t
lay off buddy.
Do you think we'll get any leaks of this soon??
No.
A true masterpiece.
The goblin has MJ all for himself.
I have a question, why is one of the covers a 2099 suit?
Don't you know anything about variant covers?
Does anyone have images of the covers where it’s just the suits? I’ve been trying to find them but only been able to find the black suit one
So is this the Peter that ran away with MJ while Miles took over?
Nah, this is an entirely different universe. Just is also called Ultimate, for some reason. Likely to drag readers in.
They didn't have to do that, to be honest. Just say 'there's no more One More Day, there's no more Paul Rabin, and there's definitely no Dan Slott, Zeb Wells, or Nick Lowe' and you'd already have a captive audience.
And we know that's true because that's literally what happened, and a five page preview where relatively little happens manages to garner far more interest on Cinemaphile than Zeb's big crossover work that he'd been foreshadowing from the beginning of his gay and worthless run.
I can see why they DIDN'T do it - it's because ASM is the fat pig that's being cannibalized by all the other offshoot parasites. Spider-Verse, Miles, Silk, and everything else is orbiting ASM, has their claws in ASM. Introducing an alternate ASM timeline that has none of that would get in the way of their bottom line, OCs, or spider-society garbage.
This way it's a smaller competitor for the spotlight. ASM is THE Spider-Man book, so they want to keep it that way. Making something and saying OMD never happened would also undo a lot of the shit that makes the current ASM tenable as well as bleed readers away from current ASM. Can't have that.
Yes and no. Peter here is only just now getting his powers instead of having them since fifteen. I prefer him solo though. Never liked the idea of him splitting his powers 50/50 with MJ and then also letting his literal child daughter fight crime. It works as a cute low stakes book but not beyond that, imo. Then RYV shot itself in the foot with the timeskip.
>Can't have that.
Like most things Marvel does in order to try to be sly and clever, it ultimately never works out and blows up in their face. Look at all the variant covers coming out for it. Lowe is definitely resentful that Ultimate is stealing the oxygen from the room for Amazing, and it's definitely positioned itself as *the* alternative for anyone dissatisfied with the status quo. To the point where even Lowe is just throwing up his hands in his own fricking letter pages and saying "UH IF YOU DON'T LIKE PAUL OR THE KEKSHIT JUST READ ULTIMATE, GOD!"
The fact that the editor on Ultimate isn't a hardcore OMD guy or a Quesada sycophant means they won't have an easy time sabotaging this book. Especially if it keeps selling the way the preorders have been doing.
Sooooo alt RYV timeline with Pete going solo instead of the whole family
>so far 4 writers want to take over next after Wells
they may give it to one of them or all will be on th book into 2025
>>so far 4 writers want to take over next after Wells
And the writer who gets to write Ultimate after hickman will no doubt crap it leading the book to get canceled soon after.
R.I.P. Ultimate Spider-Man (2024-2025) lasted for twelve issues.
How is Zeb Wells looking like nowadays? Does he still look like a man on the verge of a breakdown?
He changed his profile picture on Xwitter to Paul Rabin and is clearly just gloating about how shit he's made the book, apparently on purpose.
Remember, "an enraged fan is an engaged fan!"
I don't he cares about the book being objectively shit. I think he probably didn't expect people to realize he had an actual cuck fetish which is infinitely more humiliating
The main problem with cuckgays is that you can't even humiliate them by pointing out how pathetic and sad their fetish is, because they get off on that
https://aiptcomics.com/2024/01/05/marvel-krakoa-free-comic-book-day-2024/
>Marvel teases first post-Krakoa story and more in Free Comic Book Day 2024 offerings
>Marvel Comics has shed even more light on their Free Comic Book Day 2024 offerings, which include the first-ever post-Krakoa tale taking place in Blood Hunt/X-Men #1. There are also preview pages for FCBD Marvel’s Voices, Star Wars, and Spider-Man/Ultimate Universe!
>Free Comic Book Day takes place on May 4th, 2024.
>In FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2024: BLOOD HUNT/X-MEN #1, the long night arrives! Take your first bite of this upcoming saga from writer Jed MacKay that sees the vampires of the Marvel Universe step out of the shadows and plunge the world into darkness. Starring the Avengers, Moon Knight, Doctor Strange, and of course, pop culture’s iconic vampire hunter, Blade, BLOOD HUNT promises to leave a profound mark on the Marvel Universe in its wake. FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2024: BLOOD HUNT/X-MEN #1 will also give readers their very first look at what’s next for mutantkind. Written by Gail Simone and drawn by David Marquez, this story follows Jubilee on a journey to where it all began and is packed with jaw-dropping hints at the X-Men’s post-Krakoa landscape.
>In FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2024: SPIDER-MAN/THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSE #1, see the start of the next ongoing series set in the Marvel’s new Ultimate line! By the time it comes out, readers will have met the new Ultimate Spider-Man, Ultimate Black Panther, and the new Ultimate X-Men. Now, a new team of ULTIMATE heroes emerge to help put this twisted universe on track towards a hopeful future in a story by Deniz Camp and Juan Frigeri. FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2024: SPIDER-MAN/THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSE #1 will also set up the return of Norman Osborn as Green Goblin, a storyline coming soon to Zeb Wells’ Amazing Spider-Man run; and a special preview of Al Ewing’s next mind-bending arc of Venom!
the rest is for minority crap and Star Wars, but these two have Spidey
we've seen the covers several times, but I'll repeat post them so you know where the sneak preview pages go to
is that the chick Peter was "teased" with for like one page a while back? The lawyer?
and the rest is tokens and Star Wars, so that's all for now. I presume previews for the next issue of Spider-Gwen (lmao) and nuMiguel will drop soon
Is that Doom with a fricking gun?
I don't know if that's funny, or cool.
>Yeah so we have this super powerful genius scientist grandmaster sorcerer and from time to time multiversal deity who thinks godhood is beneath him
>Okay, what's he doing?
>In his free time he goes to shoot homies in suits with some energy pistols while sporting the latest fashion from GQ: Hobo Tinman Edition
Doom used guns in Savage Avengers by Duggan a couple of years ago, and this Doom is reed anyway
>Doom is reed
I had zero knowledge that was a thing
I am so confused. I thought 1610 Doom was an absolute unit who solo'd Marvel Zombies and made it back unscathed?
>I had zero knowledge that was a thing
The Maker (Reed from the OG Ultimate universe, Universe 1610) went to Marvel Universe 6160 (The new Ultimate universe)
The Maker wanted to remake the world in his image since the restored 1610 universe was just kind of existing on it's own and everything was better for everyone involved, with even Ultimate Spider-Man back to being the only Spider-Man in the universe.
The Maker, presumably bitter over what happened with the FF in his universe, caused the FF to miss their flight using a time travel device, and thus the cosmic rays that gave them powers.
Off panel, Ben and the Storms died. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that The Maker was probably still bitter over getting cucked out of his own Sue by his best friend Ben, and Johnny hitting him with flames in the face so hot that it caused him permanent facial damage and their deaths were totally unrelated.
Reed, however, was turned into Doctor Doom by The Maker. Because Ultimate Reed is a narcissistic butthole, and the only mind he respects is his own. So 6160 Doom is just a Reed turned into Doom by a different Reed, and thus you have a reason to make this Doctor Doom into a hero from the start, because the man under the mask was already supposed to be a good guy, as 6160 was presumably supposed to play out the exact same way 616 did, until The Maker started fricking around with the immortus engine.
And that's why Peter Parker gets to be happy. Because even The Maker realized Peter Parker is the only thing in the multiverse cucked harder than he is and tossed this one a bone.
>I don't know if that's funny, or cool.
It's Dr. Doom, so the answer is that it's both funny and cool. Even if he's also Reed Richards.
I'm very curious about what 616 Doom would think about 1610 Reed Richards, who went off the deep end as the Maker and became a bigger villainous mastermind than 1610 Doom, compared to 6160 Reed Richards, who ended up becoming an antiheroic Dr. Doom that's vehemently opposed to the Maker.
That's Reed Richards too. Don't you see the blue?
i'm enjoying tony's we wuz armor
Huh. So they got Cap out the ice right away. The one-shot made it seem they were going to hold off until some big event or something.
It's impossible to tell, because it's a different artist. But Tombstone's lawyer had glasses.
I hope Peter doesn't get with her though, that b***h isn't as bad as Paul, but she really is pretty bad.
>Tombstone's lawyer had glasses.
you could be wearing contacts though
If one artist was trying to call back to a character drawn by another artist, they'll focus on distinct and easily identifiable traits.
Which is why, no matter how absurdly buff or skinny Paul is drawn between artists, Paul is now doomed to have a stupid looking manbun. It's Paul's iconic manbun now.
it's a different lady. The lawyer had shorter hair and wore glasses
>a special preview of Al Ewing’s next mind-bending arc of Venom!
I'm surprised that Ewings Venom run has gone on for so long at this point
>a new team of ULTIMATE heroes emerge to help put this twisted universe on track towards a hopeful future in a story by Deniz Camp and Juan Frigeri.
so ultimates then
sell well enough just because of the venom name
>FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2024: SPIDER-MAN/THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSE #1 will also set up the return of Norman Osborn as Green Goblin, a storyline coming soon to Zeb Wells’ Amazing Spider-Man run
Well that nails if for sure Peter's final confrontation with Norman for sure I have a feeling the Green Goblin will die for sure this time. Maybe after this mess is over they will get around to revving Gwen.
They won't revive Gwen, because that would make Peter happy. They hate doing that.
I say Spider-Gwen will the one to resurrect Gwen her getting Spider-Gwen's body would be poetic justice.
They will let him be happy, if only to take it away from him yet again.
Casting True Resurrection on Gwen is the only thing I can see Peter be actually happy about at this point, so it makes sense they’d do it to the poor fricker.
There is a possiblity that the celestials brought back Gwen some time ago at this is what is hinted here. She mentions being away somewhere for a long time who knows maybe the celestials are in cahoots with the eternals or something
>who knows maybe the celestials are in cahoots with the eternals or something
bait or moronation
call it
>bait or moronation
I'm gonna go with both
Well it is a possibility you know you just never know with marvel truth be told.
I'm thinking moronation
Not all morons are baiters, but all baiters are morons.
Paul looks like he smells. Like, an unwashed, sweaty smell
Why the frick does this book have to exist.
>Bendis looking fricker staring at her ass
heh
I love how she's actually Jackpot III.
It's her fricking catchphrase and she's still Jackpot III.
2019: MJ is a civilian who gets a mini series about working on a movie with Mysterio. It's popular enough to get a second arc, but the arc is cancelled due to the pandemic.
2023: MJ becomes a superhero and a mini series is announced. Everyone hates the idea, with a big part of that hatred being due to the atrocious events that led to her becoming a hero in the first place, and the mini becomes a one-shot. Another mini is announced, but now it's a team-up story with Black Cat, as if they're no longer confident in their plan to push MJ as a hero but are determined to go through with it anyway.
>art is lazy
>the Jackpot costume looks like crap
>the one-liner is laughably asinine
>nobody in the world actually likes the idea of MJ becoming a superhero
I honestly think Marvel is just deliberately making all the worst possible creative choices these days. There's no other real rational explanation for this.
It's so Grover
Not sure if anyone has pointed this out
Paul Jenkins is apparently back at Marvel since he's going to need to make some money after having been in a lawsuit against some autistic Star Trek fan
He might be doing some Spider-Man work again soon
He also has an interview with Popverse (for members only) where he's going to talk about his time on Spider-Man
>after having been in a lawsuit against some autistic Star Trek fan
lmao. Over what, do you know?
This is what can happen when an autist has too much money https://axanar.com/faq/ https://axanar.com/paul-jenkins-sued-for-copyright-fraud-and-defamation/
oh kek. Sounds like Jenkins went a bit too autistic against the Kings of autism, Trekkies
December Sales for comics as you can see the ASM is still the top selling marvel book i take it this means Ultimate Spider-Man will fail after all.
You’re autistic.
>You’re autistic.
The rank sales say something else..
>December 2023 sales charts don’t have USM on it.
You’re utterly autistic.
The ASM is among the top ten in the chart this indicates USM will most likely fail to outsell ASM.
As if both can't be
There ca only be one winner.
Also this one.
Oh and for you osborn guys...2dswirl has a poll on his patreon for a nsfw pic of norman/gwen...since you guys like it so much.
well, hot damn... I can't see the post, what are the other options and how is /ourship/ doing? If there's hope, I might throw him some cash
Other options are random, not too many marvely ones. In the lead theres a magik and stephanie brown ones. It's locked behind the patreon as a post. But only like 5 bucks.
I may join just to vote for a picture of him choking her while she cries or says, "Harder, homosexual"
>since you guys like it so much.
Nobody actually likes it, people are just memeing about it to trigger the schizo.
exactly, and all those fanfics I wrote about them having hot, sticky sex was just for a laugh
That’s fine, the schizo is a creep.
There is a lot of oc for it in these threads, and iirc swirl once did a co delivery for it, so felt fitting to give a friend of mine free advertising here lmao.
Anyone got more of these? I've only seen two. This one and the "Thank God he's on our team" one, but I love em.
Sorry just that one and a predator arm for ben and Peter
Yeah. This is the first time I'm excited for an ongoing since the end of Spencer personally if nothing else. I have a subscription on which I barley do anymore.
anyway, some more previews
Miguel O’Hara: Spider-Man 2099 #2
that's all for Miggy
a bit of a side note, but judging just twittex's reaction, fans of Miguel are more interested in seeing how he deals with the people in his personal life. The Miguel hugging Conchata panel got a lot of reactions, while no one seemed to care much for the actual plot
Why are they wasting Miguel on this generic "oh so spooky" Halloween vampire slop?
next, our favorite walking wardrobe
Spider-Gwen: Smash #2
I dunno
that's all for the soon to be 616 Spider-Gwen
next, Poochie ft. Venom (the younger one)
Giant-Size Spider-Man #1
>another fricking power-up
>Milesgays will defend this with MUH THERAPY
that's all. There's a preview for Miles' own comic, but lmao no. Only did this one for the Venomgays
Oh boy, I can hear the crickets already
Coello back drawing Venom!? Oh boy!
Has he drawn spidey?
silly, goofy man 🙂
that looks great
Is there a Paul in this Ultimate universe? What about Gwen and/or Felicia?
He INSTANTLY replied.
Tears? FLOWING.
spoilers when?
For reference to how chechetto draws the 616 chars
Felicia is sexy, JJJ look the best.
>Felicia is sexy
it’s the sex hair, look at how he draws Elektra in Zdarsky’s Daredevil
Frick man
New USM cover is out, also heard some spoils, if anyone is curious.
I like that all 3 core girls look different rather than like you would just need a paint tool to make them one another.
>booba
Nice
I am curious about the spoilers, just tag them if you like. There’s so many false leaks on the threads these days that even I won’t completely buy what you share anyways, and I’m the one requesting it.
I heard them from someone, but they are super sparse, so i can buy them. [Spoiler] . "Really good, Peter somehow feels 'incomplete' and the story is about getting a second chance to right a wrong. MJ is supportive of him and does find out he's Spider-Man. She's in 9 pages" I assume by the specificness, the kids dont find out, so that's probably where the drama will lay? [/Spoiler]
…Don’t worry about the tags, tbh I always felt MJ figuring out he’s Spider-Man is inevitable considering her 616 backstory.
It’ll be interesting, especially if MJ doesn’t approve of the vigilantism but still ends up lying to the kids to keep Peter safe.
I tried, i dont use the spoiler tag much, sorry.
Well seems she's supporting going by this, since that's the wife-husband dynamic he seems to like writing, putting the conflict more squarely on the kids/parents.
Just press 'Ctrl' + 's' next time. You don't have to manually type out the spoiler brackets unless you're phoneposting
Ah no, im on computer. Phone's too uncomfortable to type and i cant use the pass there
Even better then, you can just use that shortcut every time
Thanks!
why is Doom with the Spider characters?
Because he’s a Spidey villain.
handsome Norman <3
Are you gay or a girl?
If ultimate only he gets it's a good book or it's great or even gets anything other than a 10 for reviews accross the board than it's a systemic failure and should be cancelled on the spot and just die right there and not continue
Are you having a stroke
to finish up the batman talk and back to the uiltimate talk, no one has ripped Neo Gothic 6 yet, and the ending was good people people are saying.