One of the best rogues galleries in comics, so let’s talk about it. Favorites? The obscure you like to see more of? Favorite takes on the characters in movies, cartoons, or games?
For instance was Dafoe Goblin a good take on Osborn?
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Yeah, he was great.
>goblincel thread
This is a thread for Spidey villains, not whatever weird shit you’re on about. For example I like Hydro-Man more than Sandman
There’s more variety I think
>There’s more variety I think
Not really. Joker/Goblin has been leaned on heavily, but there's been representation of most of either's most popular foes.
Joker (many)
Bane (2)
Mr. Freeze
Poison Ivy
The Penguin (2)
Two Face (2)
Scarecrow
Ras and Talia
Catwoman (many)
Falcone
vs
Green Goblin (many)
Venom
The Lizard
Electro
Vulture
Dr. Octopus
Sandman
Mysterio
Shocker
Rhino (barely)
JJ Jameson
Leaving aside animated/non Batman stuff and "Easter Egg" villains.
forgot
Riddler (2)
Spider-Man's villains have been better realized than Batman's throughout the history of movies.
There, I said it.
>Favorite
Kraven. Especially in the silver and bronze age
>Obscure I want more of
Don't feel too strongly about this subject, but Big Wheel or Kangaroo I guess.
>Favorite takes
Electro in TAS and Spectacular. Uber powerful son of Red skull is so random it works. Spectacular made him a sympathetic victim even if it made him more a cliched archetype as far as Spider-Man villains go, it was good stuff
Electro can be made more sympathetic if they gave him his sister from Web of Shadows. Making him some young electrician dude who took it upon himself to raise his sister after their parents either croaked or abandoned them, makes it easy to sympathize with him due to his struggles being very relatable to a lot of people.
Oh nice. I've never played web of shadows, but I'm always down for villains having orbiting characters to make them more interesting.
Sorta like sandmans daughter
What makes Electro endearing is the fact that he has such low goals for someone who has control over a powerful and destructive force of nature
Killing her off would be what turns Electro into a villain. All the sacrifices he made to raise her meant nothing. The only family he had left is gone. He’d snap and go nuclear, becoming Electro.
>After he gets his powers, he’d try to be a hero like Spider-Man. His sister loves Spider-Man.
>The two would team-up.
>Electro would task Spidey to look after his sister while he takes care of the bad guy.
>Spidey screws up and fails to protect Electro’s sister. She dies.
>Electro, while hunched over his dead sister, snaps. You’d hear this https://youtu.be/CqbbAm34nWs?si=tOJb89rF7s8s2_lU while his mind is breaking apart.
>Spidey tries to apologize for failing to save Electro’s sister, Electro responds by attempting to fry him.
>Spider-Man’s now his enemy. He needs to pay for killing his sister.
I'd flip it to be less cliche. She's the one egging Max on to villainy.
Am interesting potential take.
She would constantly takes advantage of his genuine love for her and his less than stellar intellect to manipulate him into petty crimes to improve her own life. He doesn't understand and legitimately thinks he's doing good, like Robin Hood. His first confrontations with Spidey have him questioning if he's really being a hero. However, he doesn't notice that his activities have earned him enemies who target his sister. Peter finds out, rushes ahead to save her, trying to let him know his sister is in danger, but there's a miscommunication, and Electro thinks Spidey is going to arrest her. Peter arrives before the villains are able to hurt the sister, and tries to get her out of there, but her greed and selfishness wind up thwarting his attempts to save her, making her the architect of her own demise. Electro arrives too late, and only sees Spidey standing over the corpse of his beloved sister.
He goes nuclear.
Nearly kills Peter, who only manages to subdue him by the skin of his teeth.
When the police have apprehended him, he's regained consciousness and venomously tells a desperate and apologizing Spiderman that he will NEVER forgive him. Peter left sad, but with a determination to help Electro not matter what, and try to save him from the path of villainy
After many years of criminality, Electro finally learns and accepts the truth of what happened that day. He realizes that his own anger and pain prevented him from being the hero he wanted to be, and that his choice to mindlessly pursue vengeance without the full truth caused him to hurt many innocent people, something he never wanted to do. He nuts up and helps Peter in the final battle against his ultimate foe in an attempt to make up for his selfishness in some small way. Maybe he should die a hero, forgiving and being forgiven, or maybe he should live, turning himself over to the police and vowing to do his time and pay for his crimes
Personally, I don't know if I'd jump straight to killing her. If I was in charge of my dream SM adaption I think I'd probably do something like:
>Electro starts out as a "hero", can finally live up to what his sister thinks of him as
>teams up with Spidey once or twice
>doesn't really have the willpower to be a real hero, quickly realizes that good vibes aren't going to pay the bills
>steals from the criminals he fights, even starts secretly stealing from innocents using his powers so he doesn't get caught
>Spider-Man figures it out, tries to bring him in
>big dramatic blow-up in the Dillon house between Peter, Max, and Max's sister
>Max's sister is horrified that she's been living off of stolen money for months
>Max is mortified and furious that Spider-Man ruined his relationship with the only person he cares about
>no one's ever going to trust him again after this
>goes full Electro
>Spidey defeats Electro, Electro goes to prison, everyone's a little worse off
How'd you figure Francine Frye into this? Or just ignore her and focus on Max and his sister
>How'd you figure Francine Frye into this?
Hadn't really given her any thought honestly. It's not really that I have a problem with her or anything, and I think there's a place for legacy characters and/or knockoffs, but they only really work in long-form stories like comic books and I usually think it's better to stick to your core cast, knowing specifically what stories you want to tell and what character aspects you want to examine.
Spot was always cool, a guy who can teleport however much of whatever he wants wherever he wants can be a very scary thing. You're never really safe from him.
Remember when they gave him a heroic daughter who is now as forgotten as he is.
Kudos for anon for showing Lightmaster some love!
Thanks. I just think Lightmaster is such a cool name and his design is too op to be forgotten. He indeed needs more love.
Lightmaster’s a shit name, dude.
Writers really love these pages of needlessly shit on a middle tier or obscure villain cause I dunno, poor Serpent Society gets it a lot
>poor Serpent Society gets it a lot
The Serpent Society have a weird recurring thing where the X-Men books keep grabbing this specific team of Captain America villains to use as jobbers whenever they want to do an "X-Men fight regular supervillains" moment before the main plot of the story starts. It sucks.
If the Serpent Society ever got their own book they should flip the perspective and have the X Men job out to them, Honestly shame that they get overlooked so hard when there is a lot to work with in regards to them as villains or even as characters
It's so annoying because in their own home territory, the Serpent Society are great, a team of mostly low-powered or gimmick weapon villains who punch well above their weight due to teamwork. But X-Men power creep has been so insane that villains like them don't stand a chance and shouldn't be there in the first place.
It mostly just makes me think of fricking Linkara.
I thought he was a Sleepwalker villain for the longest time cause of that one longrunning fanfic Ultimate Sleepwalker
BACK TO AUSCHWITZ?!!?!!!?
The only interesting villain character in the whole movie. I hope they won't ruin him in the 3rd part
I thought the DaVinci Vulture was neat.
I didn't like Spiderverse but there was an entire cut sequence with Spot at a bar with other Spidey villians, and I love the designs they had for them. Would've been a really fun scene. What do you anons think?
https://twitter.com/hombreoctubre/status/1700136267311108097
Would've loved to see it just for the designs. Can't find it, but there was concept art for Chameleon that I saw a while ago that looked really neat. Would've loved to have seen that. And you can't really go wrong with "villain beats the shit out of other villains at a bar".
>Can't find it, but there was concept art for Chameleon that I saw a while ago that looked really neat.
This one right? When I saw his design, it gives me "Wonder of U" vibes. But it's very aesthetic design.
Yeah, that's the one. Simple, but it works so well, and I like how they incorporate the "chameleon" part into his design (that sort of design philosophy seems to be common for Spiderverse, like this Hammerhead design where his head is modeled like an actual hammer). Dunno if it really works for Hammerhead here, but I think it ended up working really well for Chameleon.
>it gives me "Wonder of U" vibes
Never even connected that, but I do like his design lots too so it makes sense.
Feel like E would work best, almost works like hair. Wouldn't have the H on it though, and not sure I like the red beard. I wish we got/will get to see more spider-verse designs for villains. Monster Gob, Brick Wall Fisk, and tubey FemOck were neat looks. I liked Prowler too. Spot is simple but fun, hope they don't ruin him. I'll admit Scorpion and Tombstone were boring to me though, same for Kilometers Morales. I care less about this much but I wish the spider society had a little more OC love given to it instead of the weird blobby Hold Y To Randomize spiders they used to fill 95% of the area.
Spiderverse is a much better art book than a story.
I remember thinking we were going to get some badass Multiverse Sinister Six with Spot at the helm, but instead he became a side story for stupid death cult Spiders.
multiverse sinister six would've been so badass.
I never forget what they did to Shocker and the other villains in the 2hd game
I don’t care what anyone says, Insomniac universe is perhaps my favorite take on these bad guys
The banter between them and Peter in the big boss fight is great.
Except that it has Pete making pop culture references instead of roasting them like he should be. Shit’s so lame.
I actually think that's the smoothest and funniest of the try hard pop culture references they have Peter over use in adaptations. I do agree he should be a bigger dick in general though.
Which one?
He made ONE. Most of what he says is still the normal banter. Don’t exaggerate
Nah, man. Spidey’s cooler when he has his OG edge. I want him to be an actual butthole to these guys.
But he did riff on them too?
I used to think that too, until they killed off a bunch of them off-screen.
That's a separate issue
I'm not going to sperg out about tech villains looking techy. I like the designs for the most part, and no, they're not "MCU". We've seen how MCU shit looks, and this aint it
My issue is the designs are super MCUified where everything is techslop. Just give them their normal outfits because Insominiac's original designs always suck ass.
Most of their normal outfits are trash. Electro, especially.
>Hating on kino outfits and the most underrated villain motivation in comics
Ngmi
The most underrated villain motivation is to be evil for the hell of it. Robbing banks is lame, especially for a guy with electric powers.
Yeah and robbing banks for the hell of it falls under that category. Electro is based. Simple as
Have these two ever teamed up or cross paths? Seems like a good duo
at the very least, kraven praised him above all the others and he was given respect, but i do wish he survived.
Spider-Man 2 felt like the writers torching the franchise. I mean why kill so many villains in a normal sequel?
To play devils advocate it's not like the perpetual state of comics where death is meaningless and there's a revolving door to the afterlife. Insomniac Sinister Six got a hell of a lot more respect than any given movie villain if you ask me. In the game universe they each had long careers that spanned 8 years, whereas a movie villain will die after his first outing. Not saying it doesn't suck, just trying to make a point and give perspective here. Plus maybe this will be a good excuse to dig up some literal whos for future content.
If I remember correctly Insomniac leaks said one of the DLCs would involve Beetle
I’m hoping they keep her in the outfit so she can look somewhat sexy and not uggo like most of the characters in Spiderman 2
Frick that. Alleged careers that we don’t see don’t mean jack shit. And the way they died, again off screen, is total horseshit
>Alleged careers that we don’t see don’t mean jack shit.
We don't see every crime ever from these characters in comics, and games don't have the benefit of having 900 issues of history to show. It's acknowledging the format, and 70 years of material equates to about 8 in universe anyway. I don't need to see all of their fricking origins AGAIN, move on. Yes it does suck that they're dead, that was never in question. Doesn't change what I said
It’s effectively the same as them dying in the first outing, with the only difference being that the game assures us that they did things before the game starts, but they won’t show it.
Showing their origins again and killing them off after one showing are two completely distinct issue, do not conflate them
>It’s effectively the same as them dying in the first outing
No it's not, what are you talking about? I don't need to see a dozen failed bank robberies to say "Oh, they've been around for a while". We know these bad guys by heart
It is. We see them once, then they die. Everything else is set dressing and excuses. It’s wasteful and stupid
So when the Arkham Games only show villains once and make it clear a seasoned Batman has done this a dozen times, it's fine?
To be fair the Arkham games didn’t get rid of a significant portion of the Rogues Gallery by the second game, they at least killed off bad guys after giving them screen time or something to do mostly
They killed off Ras and Clayface after one appearance, and Joker on his second outing. A good many others were one offs too. The Sinister Six in the Spider-Man games were given importance, not just side missions.
Joker was in all four games frick off
Forgot to quote
Ras didn’t die he was in Knight, likewise Jokers shit doesn’t count.
He died in Knight and even if you didn't choose to let him die he was a non entity throwaway cameo in that side mission.
You're making excuses where it's okay for one but not the other
Regardless, the deaths that did happen were ON SCREEN. They didn’t die and have their deaths become trivia because they don’t even actually tell you
You’re hopping around this entire conversation in an effort to feel right. So now it would have been better had we seen their deaths like Scorpion? This entire back and forth originally wasn’t even about their deaths. Again, be it Spidey or Batman, I WANT to see more of these characters. HOWEVER I acknowledge the platform/context we’re on, and the original talking point was them having full careers, which is way more than any movie can say. You’re trying to say Arkham isn’t guilty of the same things you’re complaining about. I care that they had time to shine
>So now it would have been better had we seen their deaths like Scorpion
It still would have been cheap but it would have been less insulting. You keep deflecting onto Arkham when it’s not the same at all.
Having implied full careers is meaningless because we don’t actually see them. Side missions could easily fill this gap (like in Batman) but instead they waste them on useless shit like the Brooklyn Visions crap or Miles’s girlfriend. Moreover they kill off like four of them all at once for no discernible reason. It’s not like it hypes up Kraven very well because it’s so missable
>Its not the same
And how is it not? It’s not a deflection, it’s an apt comparison since both are heroes well into their careers with a lot of character history happening off screen. Batman Arkham did not explore everything through side missions as you are trying to claim.
So why is it okay there and not here?
Because your only point of comparison is Ras (who gets two games so not the same), Joker (who is in all four games, not the same), and Clayface. Only the last one is comparable and even then his death happened on screen and in a climactic way.
Spider-Man 2 kills of four/five villains to hype up a new one, many of which happen off screen. And even then the villain being hyped up is fought once before being killed off by yet another villain.
If you think those two are the same you have a learning disability
So it’s okay that Anarky only had one mission before getting shipped off to a government prison? That Knightfall happened off screen as well as Killing Joke? Talia’s off screen romance? That every sidekick from Dick to Tim happened already off screen? How about fighting Freeze only once? That most boss fights ended with a one hit knockout?
You see what I’m getting at here? You’re still hung up on death for some reason when it’s only a fraction of what we’re talking about
Death is all I’m talking about. It’s final. Ending something where the beginning is only implied. It’s stupid and wasteful, if they’d stayed in jail it would actually be fine
Anon I agreed with you on the deaths 10 posts ago. Are you following the conversation at all?
But you said it was ok that they were killed off because they had their run because the game is set 8 years into Spidey's career. But the point is that that is irrelevant because we still only see them once.
Character shows up once, then character dies. This is bad no matter what else they try and do around it to justify it. Having stuff happen off screen is not a replacement for having stuff on screen. Same deal applies to having someone like Mysterio already be reformed when we never even got to experience him as a villain. The reformation feels unearned because they skipped to the end
So why is it okay when Arkham does it?
Did they kill them off? No, they didn’t. And they certainly didn’t kill them off off screen
>Did they kill them off? No
.....Yes, they did kill characters See
And everyone hated that by the way.
>Favorites
Silver Age Green Goblin, Harry Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Scorpion, Kraven, Sandman, Vermin, probably missing some honestly but those are my big ones.
>The obscure you like to see more of?
Cyclone immediately comes to mind. I really loved his appearance against Spider-Man and Moon Knight and really feel like he should be a much bigger rogues member than he is. An international criminal with the power to control fierce winds around his body is such a unique add for Peter’s enemies.
>Favorite takes on the characters in movies, cartoons, or games?
Loved Spectacular’s take one a lot of the villains, mainly Dr. Octopus and the Green Goblin (up until the finale). Their version of Venom was top notch too. Your pic is another one.
>For instance was Dafoe Goblin a good take on Osborn?
One of the best comic movie villains. Perfectly captured what made Silver Age Gobby such a great character and villain and added some more mythos to Norman.
I had a dream last night where I realised that Sandman's existence could potentially be horrible.
Imagine if every inch of your body felt like how it feels to get sand in your shoe.
Just posting a good villains centric issue of ASM. Believe this was the last issue Stan wrote too.
Wtf are Spider villains’ methods and motivations to make them anywhere close to being as interesting a rogues gallery as Batman’s?
The vast majority of them just seem to want to rob banks for cash. Who cares what animal they dress as
>Favorites?
Electro is almost always fun to me, love that zappy bastard. Mysterio is nifty too but his gimmick is hard to keep fresh I guess. I love Sandman whenever he gets to show his heart, I almost wish they let him swap to full on hero, but I guess for all his power he's still mostly alive because heroes are too merciful to glass him when many villains wouldn't hesitate.
>Obscure
I remember this temporary, gag villain, I think his name was Slide or Slyde? He seemed like genuine fun and I wanted more of him, though I'd need a refresher I think.
>Favorite takes
Frick everyone I actually liked ASM Electro yes even the dubstep. The tragic and lonely loser given the power of a god and trying to be seen and taken seriously and never really got that chance because circumstances and himself got in the way of that. Lizard was boring Rhino was a joke and Goblin was a fricking disgrace but ASM2 had the chance to be kino if they focused on Max and Peter more somehow. The regular Spidey movies obviously did great with Gobbo and Otto, the Disney Spider-Man movies gave probably my favorite Vulture look and made mysterio fun. Movies aside I loved just about anything Shattered Dimensions gave, mostly to my aforementioned three favorites but them making Carnage more an alien horror than a psycho was fun even if I like either. Spectacular gives them all a good run too.
I'm not sure what makes spidey villains so fun, I guess at the end of the day most are practically his playmates and that gives a lot of room for them to either have fun with it or have the intense and serious "no more games" approach or space between the two. Sometimes Otto is gonna break Peter's will to live, sometimes he's going on about his genius while Spidey's about to pants him, sometimes he goes "aw shucks" and toddles off to jail because Pete caught him tiptoeing away with plutonium.
Thoughts on Paperdoll?
I avoid new comics, what's her deal?
She can make herself flat as paper and change color to camouflage. Her characterization is being obsessed with a celebrity she has a crush on, stalker tier that put her in Spider-Man's path
What do we think of this guy? Tas making him MJ's ex was a good decision imo
He's got more versatility and a theme to compliment Spider-Man better than Sandman. That, and he's got more pathos since Hydro-Man's accident was a direct result of Peter's actions
Hydroman is one of those characters with a damn near unstoppable powerset capable of untold levels of destruction but he had a room temperature IQ so he just sort of robbed banks and ATMs and has like 3 things he does in combat over and ovet again.
That’s so fricking lame. Dude’s just a gag villain at that point.
I love the guy, dude reads like he stepped right out of a tenasee williams play
>Tas making him MJ's ex was a good decision imo
I hate "boohoo be mt gf" stalker villains so much it's unreal. They're insanely boring and reek of shitty novels and movies for elderly women.
*my
Either way, simp villains are absolute bottom of the barrel villains for me.
Then you probably hate Bowser and Comic Thanos.
I don't care for Mario one way or the other and I always preferred Darkseid, at least DCAU one.
Fair, but I like how tas worked his simping into that crazy MJ twist
Kindred has a badass design. I don't know why they don't sell figures of him.
While I'm looking forward to the potential DLC with Beetle, and I get we can explore her relationship with her father Tombstone, I'm not exactly sure how she can head a DLC by herself
Spot was cool even before the movie
>even before the movie
proof?
Proof? He's always been a fun and underrated villain. newbies and casuals are just discovering him because of that dumb movie.
I remember him from Spidey 94.
You guys want to come up with NEW Spider-Man villains for fun? I might have an idea or two.
Maybe a new female villain who just always wears her full body villain costume due to being a bit mental but not murderous, perhaps she can be themed after a sea animal or mollusk. Maybe with sticky powers and super flexibility but she uses them in irregular ways
My idea(s) was a villain couple, the man themed after a tick while the woman is based on a mosquito. Suppose they'd have to be genetic monsters/hybrids since a good chunk of Spider-Man villains are already guys in suits. Or should they just be suit/tech bad guys? I'm open to workshopping.
Perhaps they drain the mutations from each other so one of them doesn't become monstrous at a time but as a trade off it makes their next temporary mutation worse
I was thinking more of a literal jab at Peter's "radioactive spider blood" he's famous for. The tick villain is slow yet strong, and the mosquito woman is fast.
Ahh so they well round one another in the fighting/stat department, what alliterative or pun esque civy names sound they have?
Gosh I don't even have their villain names yet, or if they're monsters or guys in suits. Maybe even the blood is just a side effect, and they feed on heat?
I'd say figure that out and maybe what they'd look like, how animal themed are their costumes or forms and general personality
I had a thought for a villain whose villain is to enhancing one of the senses to a crazy degree, either his or something else’s.
For example, he could enhance his own hearing to hear someone on the other side of town, but he could also enhance someone else’s senses when they least expect it, which could really frick them up and throw them off. He realizes Spidey has another sense and enhances it at random times, causing Peter to be insanely confused and uncertain about when there’s a threat and when there’s not.
*whose power
Sounds more like a Daredevil villain
Why don't they use The Fly more often? Do you prefer his original costumed look, or his more mutated appearance?
My favorite is The Joker.
Why doesn’t Spider-man rape the Joker?
Let's be honest, Insomniac lazily ripped off Amazing Spider-Man 2 game with Kraven killing Peter's enemies.
Except there it made a lot more sense and fit the character better.
There, I praised Amazing Spider-Man 2. Laugh at me.
I don’t laugh at the moronic
>no arguments, just seethe
As expected.
You didn’t post an argument, just an opinion. But to give you a real response I don’t believe making Kraven into Peter’s mentor is a good idea
Yeah, good thing I don't care about that.
The point I was making is that Kraven killing shitty mindless "cross-species" versions of Peter's villains is a lot more tolerable than him jobbing out actual criminals who are supposed to be experienced criminals at this point. (and yeah, this is another example of Scorpion jobbing. Frick you, Insomniac).
Somehow Kraven killing animals wearing Peter villains' names sits with me a lot better than jobbing out other villains just to suck Kraven's dick.
Electro is based as he is, costume and all.
Insomniac's takes on almost all of the villains were complete shit.
That is all
Good to see so many anons giving this chad his due respect
Some people just can't accept a simple man with simple goals anymore
His costume sucks, dude.
Nope. It's iconic and instantly recognizable. Nothing else can compete
Iconic to who? Comic fans? They’re an extreme minority. Who cares about them?
>he says on Cinemaphile
I got into Spider-Man through the movies and games. I don’t give a shit about the comics.
>Dumb casual can't get into comics
Sad. So I haven't seen anyone post about Scorpion yet. Another overlooked classic villain imo
For years it bugged the hell out of me that his silver age suit had that blunt tail with no blade or stinger. It didn't really click until recently it's because his suit was originally made for superheroics and taking down Spider-Man, not murdering people.
It’s because comics back then were very much for kids so the content had to be safe for them. Comics Code was still in effect.
My homie
Filtered
He looks like something you’d see in a Gay Pride parade.
Looks like Electro to me
>Calling corny superhero outfits gay
Kek frick off casual. This man is too based for a single hero, but you wouldn't know that.
I never get why in movies and stuff the main hero can have his outfit look fairly normal and how it should in the comics but maybe tweaked a lil but then the villains have either the ugliest redesigns, the most boring wear or are virtually completely changed to where it isn’t the same character at that point in either personality, name or visuals
Huh I've never noticed how slanted it is towards villains specifically, but you're right. I hate when they double done on the changes too. Like Dafoe's goblin isn't just tacticool, it's also a boring solid green. Pretty dull compared to his green, and purple in the comics.
Unless you're Joker, live-action adaptations seem to downright despise purple for some reason.
It's obviously not as purple as the comics but they did give him purple accents at least. I guess the mindset for the bias is that a hero has more cause to wear something goofy looking than a villain in most cases. Goblin would've been an easy exception though, he's this nutso goofball. I hope if Hobgoblin ever gets a chance to shine they do his costume justice, and also remember the flame sword.
They didn’t want him looking too scary for the kids. The design they went with was heavily toned down from what they actually wanted.
Because Spider-Man’s design is pretty much perfect and can work in ALL mediums. The villains, not so much.
You talking from personal experience?
You keep reposting this to incite an argument. You’re odd
Two different anons actually. Neither are inciting an argument. You're inciting an argument by trashing on Max even though he's a classic and beloved villain
>No u
I didn’t say anything negative about Electro?…
Well, anon if you're not the guy that was shitting on Electro I don't know why you would go through the trouble of insinuating that two anons posting about him are inciting arguments.
There’s an anon in these threads that adamantly hates any alt look Max has been given, and attacks anons who have nice things to say about deviations. That post felt like it was instigating based on prior history
Ah I see. Yeah that's dumb because he does have good alt looks. The spectacular cartoon has a good one and I like the scar on his face in the insomniac game.
I appreciate the Insomniac design, but understand why others wouldn’t. I don’t like the ultimate design, or the MCU revamp. Oddly ASM2 was okay for what they were going for
I like his silly zap mask, but I'm a fan of his Spectacular and Ultimate looks as well. I just generally like this god-powered punkass. I don't strictly want him looking tacticool or anything but so long as he's happy I'm happy.
He doesn’t even need to look tacticool since he has actual powers. Could just be a guy in a green/yellow hoodie.
That’s the CW budget
Japan would kill us for even homaging Kamen Rider
Spider-Man’s the reason why Super Sentai even has a giant robot. Because his show did it and became a hit, they started adding giant robots to all of them from then on.
I know but Japan is possessive over KR, are they not?
I like the idea of him not having a qoute unqoute "default costume". I like the idea that he starts out with green work overalls when he gets his powers from an electrical accident, and then him wearing various green clothes as he gets new ones, and once in a while he tries to try out a costume to satisfy his vanity, only for it to get torn up into uselessness which makes him go "aw schucks, im back to bein a schmuck" kind of thing.
Like, if he ever got to a point where crime started to pay for him, he could get a fancy green three piece suit with embroidered yellow lightning bolts. "Aw yea, Im on de friggin' tops now, baby!"
You could turn it into a running joke if you want, make him angry that all his cool clothes keep getting wrecked.
>"DO YOU GET HOW MUCH THESE FRIGGIN PANTS COST, SPIDAMAN!? I'LL ROAST YOU FOR THIS!"
Chameleon was his first rogue. And yet zero LA appearances. How would you adapt him to LA?
A movie adaptation of the classic "Chameleon commits crime disguised as Spider-Man" story would write itself. Add another brute villain in the mix for action and to give Chameleon some defense against Peter's power set. If Spider-Man has a relationship with a girl who doesn't know he's Peter, work Chameleon messing with her into the plot.
>Bunch of crime syndicates are targeted by “Spider-Man”, and a bunch of top mob soldiers are killed
>Spidey tries to investigate this, initially working with DeWolff
>Fake Spider-Man robs a bank and attacks the Daily Bugle, which causes all of NYPD to be sent after him
>Spidey now has to avoid angry gangs and the police, and reluctantly gets help from his part time enemy Black Cat
>After fighting a gauntlet of hired gang mooks (Paladin, Shocker, and the Beetle), Peter finds out that a new player named the Chameleon is behind it all, working for mob boss Silvermane (who, in fear of his declining health, tries to secure the empire for his daughter Sable by taking down the competition and Spider-Man).
>Spidey goes after the Chameleon but is attacked by Rhino, who Silvermane has on retainer.
>Chameleon escapes into a crowd, but not before Peter gets video of Chameleon admitting to framing Spider-Man
>Rhino destroys Silvermane’s lair, ironically killing Silvermane and leaving Sable with a grudge against Spidey
Nice. Good stuff, anon
I'd love to see a live action take on Green Goblin that plays with the Halloween/horror movie theme. Give him the big comic book style mask with the rictus grin, and treat him as a slasher villain, tormenting the people close to Peter in some kind of sick game. Even if the audience knows who the Goblin is going in, you could still play up the mystery for Peter being dragged to his wits end.
Okay I think I got it. I’ve got a solid starting point for the tick and mosquito villain ideas
>Terrorsite Twins
>Missy and Phil Baso, siblings
>Fooled around with Doctor Michael Morbius’s research, only studying insects and Arachne
>Wear special suits to stay alive, gives them bug appearances
Could Spider-Man stop Japan's sinister grasshopper cyborg?
I'm just saying the proportionate power of a grasshopper (to reduce men to a red mist) is something American media should be looking into.
Imagine a Spidey movie that goes back to the origin but unlike the others, he fricks up. Dude doesn’t know his own strength and ends up accidentally killing some dudes.