I think giving Spiderverse Miles an artistic bend was a great idea to focus on instead Insomniac leaning hard into tech. It give him something that separates him from Peter without giving him any more combat advantages. He's still really smart, but isn't on Peter's level. Insomniac Miles just feels like "Spider-Man, but stronger and less experienced". Even IM's side game felt more about the environment and characters around him than about him.
>I think giving Spiderverse Miles an artistic bend was a great idea to focus on
He's not any more artistic than any Peter we saw, and now he's an aspiring multiverse scientist on top of that, meaning the one "OC donut steele" character non-trait he had that didn't overlap with Peter Milesgays were clinging to, is now also gone.
>aspiring multiverse scientist on top of that
Almost certainly so he could see Gwen again, and now that's no longer an issue. And still, it doesn't make him a tech prodigy like game Miles.
Just so he can see Gwen, Peter, and the others again. He has no real interest in science and he hasn't shown any tech-savviness aside from maybe being able to make web-shooters and fluid which he certainly most definitely only learned from blond peter's aunt May. Him wanting to go to college and study multiverse travel out of pure desperation not because he actually has an interest in it does not make him an aspiring scientist unlike PS4 Miles who is an established tech-prodigy who also is learning more about it from Peter.
Honestly, his new suit kind of grew on me. I don’t think it’s bad at all.
Both suits are great in their own right. The first is great in that it is (as the movie goes) just black spray paint over a spider suit. It works in that the red that is shown in the fingers, soles, and shoulders pops and really looks nice. In the ITSV suit it does 2 things very nicely at the same time, it makes the suit both MORE black and red. With putting red on the palm of the hand and having a straight bar going up under the whole arm to going down the side to the leg looks very very nice. Also it should’ve gone all the way down the leg to the soles but that’s me. The only real reason Miles has any staying power is that his suit is badass. It would also seem that Insomniac Miles’ suit is a mix of 1/3 basic spider suit with a mix of 1/3 and 1/3 both SV movie suit features. The red bar going up from the shoulder down the top of the arm also looks really nice. I like putting more red into Miles’ suit.
>I think giving Spiderverse Miles an artistic bend was a great idea to focus on
It's forgotten in the second film. He's now so tech savvy he can create webfluid and manage a multiverse transporting device the first time. Not to mention how he aces 95% of all his tests without even studying.
>manage a multiverse transporting device the first time
The machine does literally all the work to scan the dna and identify the universe the subject comes from all he had to do was activate it and jump in a tank. Unless the shit was in some foreign tech-jargon it couldn't possibly be that hard to figure out. >he aces 95% of all his tests without even studying
Never in the movie does it say he doesn't study. We see at the end of the first movie after getting over his issues with Visions, he is diligent in class and through the first movie we're shown he does learn quickly but he also clearly works hard if he's managing to keep his grades up even with missing classes.
>The machine does literally all the work to scan the dna and identify the universe the subject comes from
That's not what the movie presents. He has to type that stuff out and handle everything. That Spiuder-WOman even mentions how the maschine can't do shit itself without actrivating a protocol. >Never in the movie does it say he doesn't study.
Bro he literally skips every 5th class and still aces his shit. We never see him study and it's never mentioned he studies, you don't need to write headcanon for the film. Stop damage controlling.
>That's not what the movie presents. He has to type that stuff out and handle everything.
Watch the scene again. He literally just turns on a bunch of random screens one after the other along with the go home machine to distract spider-byte with while he uses the scanner which immediately brings the big ass spider down after he does it. So no he didn't have to handle much of anything but turning it on and getting his eye scanned. Also Lyla just says it's impossible for the machine to activate by itself when Spider-Byte tells her it 'just turned on by itself'. That's it. Not that he did some complicated hacker meme stuff. >Bro he literally skips every 5th class and still aces his shit.
He only missed 6 classes in the year and 4 months since the last movie which yes can hurt your grades but as long as he's staying on top of his work there's no reason he wouldn't be able to maintain good grades, which he is. >We never see him study and it's never mentioned he studies, you don't need to write headcanon for the film.
We never really see much of him in school since it would frick with pacing but we do see that when he is, he does pays attention in class and is an active student showing he has a good work-ethic and outside of spider-manning we learn from his parents he has no social life besides Ganke so he has plenty of time to study. You saying he absolutely doesn't study and is just a natural ace is actually more headcanon than what I'm suggesting since there's no real basis for believing that he doesn't study other than we just don't see it and he's doing good in school. Which you don't need to be a prodigy to be able to do.
>Watch the scene again.
I did. > He literally just turns on a bunch of random screens
No he literally types in shit while she is distraced and like I mentioned she does say the computer couldn't have done this process itself. Nice that you completely ignored and ommitted that, means you can't refute it. >We never really see much of him in school
Again stop writing for the movie. It's the film's fault if it won't present a Miles who studies. Across the Spider-verse presents this as him being naturally smart and gifted. You telling me "s-surely he must have studied" somehwere doesn't prove shit. He is so busy being Spider-Man he can't which you are shown by Across constantly when we see him in his own world.
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>No he literally types in shit while she is distraced and like I mentioned she does say the computer couldn't have done this process itself. Nice that you completely ignored and ommitted that, means you can't refute it.
You see him turn on multiple different programs and jumping between different screens in literal split seconds that she has to turn back off. He is not doing anything beyond turning random shit on you can even see her dealing with the other shit he turned on in the pic I provided and you see after he gets his eye scanned the machine comes down on it's own automatically without him needing to press anything else. And no I didn't ignore it because she didn't say the computer couldn't done the process itself she ONLY says
"The machine activated on it's own." to which lyla says "how is that possible." to which she says "it isn't." >He is so busy being Spider-Man he can't which you are shown by Across constantly when we see him in his own world.
This is pure headcanon on your part. He's busy being spiderman but it's clearly not to the point he's missing so many classes that he wouldn't be able to keep up unless he was some super genius who didn't need to study. He only missed six classes since last movie. Six classes which isn't even really that many. Even assuming he has 120 minute class periods that's only about 12 hours of missed school out of a year. He's pressed sure but not that pressed and he's clearly working hard and neglecting his social life between school and spider-manning so he can get into Princeton so he can learn about the multiverse shit which is something he is actively working towards. Just because he's smart and gifted doesn't make him a genius prodigy who wouldn't need to study because he is still obviously putting the work in to maintain his good grades it's not hard to figure out.
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>O-Okay he does something but it doesn't count
Can you stop moving the goalpost? >e's busy being spiderman but it's clearly not to the point
Can Milesgays stop being illiterate for 10 seconds challenge. The dude misses important family matters, school and opportonities to hang out with people because he is Spider-Man. He is missing out everything and you would see that with his parents visiting his school.
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Yes. He did do something. Turn it on. He literally just turned a bunch of programs by on to distract her and in the same span of time he did randomly turning those who he activated the machine, got scanned, and let the machine do the rest. There's no complicated process for that machine and you see it when Miguel sends Gwen back home. No one even needed to input anything, it just activated and machine did the rest. I cannot break it down any simpler. The machine is high-tech but the process is clearly nothing more than turn on, get scanned, and get sent home. Now you can argue that that is incredibly plot-convenient, which it is, but not that Miles is some high-level genius super hacker. >Can Milesgays stop being illiterate for 10 seconds challenge
What's illiterate about it? He doesn't live with his parents and says at his dorm so he doesn't spend much time with them. He is extremely busy but the fact alone he only missed six classes out of an entire year and some months clearly shows that he's still making plenty of time to do well in school and doing as much as he possibly can for his goal of getting into Princeton. He is neglecting his personal life, yes. I never denied that but that's not what we're arguing here. We're purely talking about time in school which we see he's clearly not neglecting nearly as much as he is with his social life - having no friends besides Ganke and of course all the issues with his parents you brought up. Miles is prioritizing spider-manning and his academics over everything else and we learn why is because he's still hung on being with Gwen and Peter and the others again.
Oh yeah that was HUGE foucs in the second film who could have forgotten that second of Miles looking at his grafitti. Immense focus. Carries throughout the plot
Bro, you’re just moronic. However, that’s okay anon.
If Miles is such an artist why hasn't he designed his own suit yet? And no, spray painting another suit black with a red spider and some red bits isn't "designing" anything. It's a quick fix that a non-artist would do to get the job done
>If he’s such an artist why didn’t he design his own suit? AND NO DESIGNING HIS OWN SUIT DOESN’T COUNT!1!1!!
Anon, I…
Compare Miles painting a suit black to pic related. Who would you say is "artistic" out of the two.
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tbf, just because you're good at designing doesn't mean you'd be great at painting murals or sculpting or photography etc etc. I'm great at sketching and decentish at making clay sculptures myself but I can't paint to safe my life
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I wish that a few of these would be available in a Spidey game.
Yeah remember that timne when art really impacted the movie of Across the Spiderverse. The Spot better be ready to handle the focus of the Miles Morales' art. It's a huge part of him being Spider-Man after all unlike Peter Parker.
If Miles is such an artist why hasn't he designed his own suit yet? And no, spray painting another suit black with a red spider and some red bits isn't "designing" anything. It's a quick fix that a non-artist would do to get the job done
I kind of like that Insomniac tried to make Miles a naive teen boy who trusts too easily and struggles with staying emotionally distant, but his model looks older then Peter's and it kills the momentum.
Both are just "Spider-Man but black" with nothing else going for them. They're both written and treated like 90s children PSAs unironically, can't wait until the pendulum swings back and people are allowed to rip into him.
>theme of his movie "no one can tell him he doesn't belong" said out loud by his mom
What corny shit lmao
>Miles has his own distinct personality
Let's see >Super smart >Not rich >Loses a close family member to get what responsibility is >Has the same villains as Peter >Same superhero title >Gets the same girlfriend >Has to balance private and superhero life, is afraid of telling his loved ones about superhero identity >Both are insecure about their place in the world when they start out
Don't tell me him listening to music counts to you as a distinct personality?
What is shallow about this and why are you afraid of mentioning how Miles has a distinct personality totally different from Peter. Here is two I forgot to mention as well >Loves to simp over a woman >Quips a lot during Spider-Man time
None of those are really personality traits and are flimsy points to rally against someone. But to start:
Miles is more assertive and personable than most iterations of peter who usually is a shy wallflower or a bit of a sarcastic smartass depending on the medium. Miles is also more rebellious towards his parents and carefree while Peter tends to much more obedient and well-behaved and serious and goal-orientated and Miles only becomes more focused after he accepts the spider-man role and even then he's much more laidback than peter.
He's much more emotional, easier to anger, and reckless while Peter has a much higher boiling point and still thinks things out most of the time. They're both a bit awkward around girls but Miles finds his footing with them alot easier and has no problems casually flirting or expressing interest. Peter is pretty law-abiding most of the time while Miles would happily run around with his uncle who he knows is a criminal not a super-villain but he knows Aaron isn't exactly a model citizen. Miles is much much more reluctant about becoming a hero and embracing responsibility than Peter was as he still tries to cling to an easy life. Under the mask, Miles is pretty much just his usual self while Peter adopts a much more confident, wise-cracking persona and alter-ego as Spider-Man and actively taunts others while Miles is reactionary and flippant. They also carry themselves pretty differently while Miles tries to act like a cool guy but is kind of a clumsy dork, Peter actually is a cool guy if still a bit nerdy when he gets over his early geekiness (in most stories anyways). And if we just go with the into the Spiderverse iterations of Peter alone they're very distinct from each other for anyone to see the differences.
>None of those are really personality traits
In what way is being super smart or insecure not a personality trait >Miles is more assertive and personable
No he isn't. Peter is very assertive and personable as well. >shy wallflower
What the frick are oyu even talking about. Have you ever read a comic. Even in the movies he won't let him get himself get pushed around once he is Spider-Man >Miles is also more rebellious towards his parents
He isn't though. Fact is he is pretty much meek against what his parents tell him having others convince him of doing stuff against their wishes >He's much more emotional, easier to anger
You are literally discribing Peter >but Miles finds his footing with them
So does Peter. He gets around quickly once he becomes Spider-Man. Dumb argument >Miles tries to act like a cool guy but is kind of a clumsy dork, Peter actually is a cool guy i
What? Peter is in fact the opposite of a cool guy which you see constantly with Peter B.
Now onto this >Super smart
Not a literal scientist prodigy like Peter and is more prone to saying and doing stupid shit. Granted Peter does too but at a much lesser frequency. Miles' stupidity despite his intelligence is pretty much a running gag. >Not rich
He's upper-middle class. He doesn't struggle financially and his personal issue is just that he doesn't mix with actual rich and privileged more uptight kids in his new school. >Loses a close family member to get what responsibility is
Aaron's death only motivated him to stay on that path he was already on. His learning responsibility came from blond peter's death, Mary jane's speech to the city, and his mother's words on not running away from things. >Has the same villains as Peter
Some of whom in spiderverse are versions that have more than their fair share of differences in the way they're utilized or portrayed to make them feel fresh. Other spider-man adjacents also do this and no one really whines about it. >Same superhero title
It's been decades man. The spider-man mantle has belonged to every dick and jane at this point even before Miles. >Gets the same girlfriend
An AU version who is completely different from the Gwen that Peter actually knew and loved and she and miles obviously have a different dynamic to exploe. >Has to balance private and superhero life, is afraid of telling his loved ones about superhero identity
Literally every single hero who has a secret identity has this struggle. It's not unique to Peter. In PS4 though I like how his neighborhood knows who he is and they all just keep it a secret and work with him to keep their community safe. I hope spiderverse goes the same route it's such a nice take and I feel that'd give Miles more distinction than Peter. >Both are insecure about their place in the world when they start out
Fair but it's a normal human response especially for you know being the protector of a city and knowing lives are going to be in your hands.
He's not smart, his mom is a nurse and dad is a cop, he lose nothing, he has no nemesis, that's one, Peter had 30+ girlfriends miles only had 3 and Gwen is still not one, literally his mom, dad, best friend and 2/3 of his ex-gf know he is Spider-man, Miles is externally motivated Peter is internally.
Saying Miles is the same as Peter is insulting to the OG Spider-man
>gets a D-lister Peter beat regularly except now he gets massive buffs all to push Miles over harder
I like this version of Spot but c'mon it's still pretty bad
All miles is terrible and the perfect example of why corporate art is soulless menageries of homosexuals exploiting everyone and anyone for a quick buck
I found the moments between Miles's dad and Spider-man with his fake deep voice to be some of the comedic high points of the film.
If that is a reference to something Peter did, please fill me in.
OK that didn't take very long. I don't know how I forgot about that scene. It is a different kind of comedy when done between father and son, but yeah I guess Peter did everything first.
I said this before but Peter is like the simpsons. He's been a shy wall flower, a wise-cracking butthole rebellious teen, a mature and confident adult and all sorts of things through various iterations. He's pretty much done and been it all. The only ground he hasn't treaded much is being middle-aged adult and family man which might be why People like Peter B so much.
Man doesn't it getting tiring? If you hate Miles so much, just give up on spiderman media that has him in it. I don't deserve to be punished seeing all these garbage threads everyday. Miles isn't going anywhere and I'm not saying that to pick a fight with anyone. It just seems to be objective facts at this point. Giving yourself mental illness over a fictional character is ....bad
This. I'm tired of playing both sides of the argument just to keep threads alive. Let's talk about Ben instead. I like talking about Ben but no one else ever wants to.
Talking about Ben in Spider-Verse will become how badly Ben was handled which leads to how a bunch of characters were handled badly which leads to why they were handled badly.
It's rough being a Ben fan
>Why do people talk about this topic instead of this boring piece of shit "character" who only had a few lines in the movie I'm crying
Gee I wonder what the point is
The fricker is in everything so it’s impossible to talk about it without him, how about if you want to love and support bendis so badly just talk about it on Reddit or Twitter?
He is in everything though, every movie cartoon and video game is infested with him. The comics are shit across the board so there isn’t anything good to talk about and the writers are angry about that and decided to make the internal metaphor of the new movie that anyone who doesn’t like miles is racist. So why not just talk about this movie somewhere where they agree with you all about that?
You have like 6 decades worth of content where he never existed.
You call for an exclusive club on 4chin is one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen in my life.
No I’m just calling for you to admit that there’s nothing of value miles adds to that story, and saying that you can shit all over it because daddy corpo let’s you isn’t a solution. So if you can’t handle that you like a terrible character written by a feckless israelite who was making fun of the Black folk he sold the character to, than talk about it elsewhere.
Actually forget it, my breaks just about over before I gotta get back to work and I want to eat. If thread dies before I'm back I'll see you gays in the next whining about miles thread.
I've turned around on Insomniac Miles, his solo game honestly wasn't bad. I really enjoyed his characterization. I just wish the writers didn't give him so many generic black guy hobbies, like music mixing.
The DLC and Miles game really only proves more and more over time that the first game was mostly liked because it ticked off most of the Spidey checkboxes and had a solid ending completely forgetting how most character were kinda badly written including Peter and contained boring fetch quest after boring fetch quest
Miles's game sucked ass outside of the gameplay. The plot was horrible enough to be noticeably bad, but forgettable and generic enough for me to forget exactly why I disliked it so much
Between that and the DLC for the first one, I'm just really hoping it means that Insomniac's A-team writers have simply just been busy with Spider-Man 2 instead, because it's the only explanation as to why MM's and the DLCs' stories were all various shades of crap
The thing no one wants to address and yet is the key problem with Miles as a character isn't that he's black, it's that he's just boring and unremarkable. He has no iconic solo stories or a memorable rogue's gallery and almost his entire personality is "he's a smart black kid." He can't get out from under Peter's shadow because he hasn't done anything to really set himself apart.
The dog poop I saw outside an hour ago > Spiderverse Miles > Insomniac Miles
the browner the better
Spider-Verse Miles has the hotter MILF Rio.
because at least it has the decency to turn white after a couple of days in the sun
Who hurt you anon?
I think giving Spiderverse Miles an artistic bend was a great idea to focus on instead Insomniac leaning hard into tech. It give him something that separates him from Peter without giving him any more combat advantages. He's still really smart, but isn't on Peter's level. Insomniac Miles just feels like "Spider-Man, but stronger and less experienced". Even IM's side game felt more about the environment and characters around him than about him.
>I think giving Spiderverse Miles an artistic bend was a great idea to focus on
He's not any more artistic than any Peter we saw, and now he's an aspiring multiverse scientist on top of that, meaning the one "OC donut steele" character non-trait he had that didn't overlap with Peter Milesgays were clinging to, is now also gone.
Peter is a scientist who does a little art. Miles is an artist who does a little science.
>aspiring multiverse scientist on top of that
Almost certainly so he could see Gwen again, and now that's no longer an issue. And still, it doesn't make him a tech prodigy like game Miles.
Just so he can see Gwen, Peter, and the others again. He has no real interest in science and he hasn't shown any tech-savviness aside from maybe being able to make web-shooters and fluid which he certainly most definitely only learned from blond peter's aunt May. Him wanting to go to college and study multiverse travel out of pure desperation not because he actually has an interest in it does not make him an aspiring scientist unlike PS4 Miles who is an established tech-prodigy who also is learning more about it from Peter.
Also, while I'm here, I just want to say that Spiderverse 1 suit >>>>>>> Spiderverse 2 suit
It really does need the red shoulders. It's unfortunate he'll still be using the Across suit in Beyond.
Honestly, his new suit kind of grew on me. I don’t think it’s bad at all.
>bleeding from the armpits
Both suits are great in their own right. The first is great in that it is (as the movie goes) just black spray paint over a spider suit. It works in that the red that is shown in the fingers, soles, and shoulders pops and really looks nice. In the ITSV suit it does 2 things very nicely at the same time, it makes the suit both MORE black and red. With putting red on the palm of the hand and having a straight bar going up under the whole arm to going down the side to the leg looks very very nice. Also it should’ve gone all the way down the leg to the soles but that’s me. The only real reason Miles has any staying power is that his suit is badass. It would also seem that Insomniac Miles’ suit is a mix of 1/3 basic spider suit with a mix of 1/3 and 1/3 both SV movie suit features. The red bar going up from the shoulder down the top of the arm also looks really nice. I like putting more red into Miles’ suit.
>I think giving Spiderverse Miles an artistic bend was a great idea to focus on
It's forgotten in the second film. He's now so tech savvy he can create webfluid and manage a multiverse transporting device the first time. Not to mention how he aces 95% of all his tests without even studying.
>manage a multiverse transporting device the first time
The machine does literally all the work to scan the dna and identify the universe the subject comes from all he had to do was activate it and jump in a tank. Unless the shit was in some foreign tech-jargon it couldn't possibly be that hard to figure out.
>he aces 95% of all his tests without even studying
Never in the movie does it say he doesn't study. We see at the end of the first movie after getting over his issues with Visions, he is diligent in class and through the first movie we're shown he does learn quickly but he also clearly works hard if he's managing to keep his grades up even with missing classes.
>The machine does literally all the work to scan the dna and identify the universe the subject comes from
That's not what the movie presents. He has to type that stuff out and handle everything. That Spiuder-WOman even mentions how the maschine can't do shit itself without actrivating a protocol.
>Never in the movie does it say he doesn't study.
Bro he literally skips every 5th class and still aces his shit. We never see him study and it's never mentioned he studies, you don't need to write headcanon for the film. Stop damage controlling.
>That's not what the movie presents. He has to type that stuff out and handle everything.
Watch the scene again. He literally just turns on a bunch of random screens one after the other along with the go home machine to distract spider-byte with while he uses the scanner which immediately brings the big ass spider down after he does it. So no he didn't have to handle much of anything but turning it on and getting his eye scanned. Also Lyla just says it's impossible for the machine to activate by itself when Spider-Byte tells her it 'just turned on by itself'. That's it. Not that he did some complicated hacker meme stuff.
>Bro he literally skips every 5th class and still aces his shit.
He only missed 6 classes in the year and 4 months since the last movie which yes can hurt your grades but as long as he's staying on top of his work there's no reason he wouldn't be able to maintain good grades, which he is.
>We never see him study and it's never mentioned he studies, you don't need to write headcanon for the film.
We never really see much of him in school since it would frick with pacing but we do see that when he is, he does pays attention in class and is an active student showing he has a good work-ethic and outside of spider-manning we learn from his parents he has no social life besides Ganke so he has plenty of time to study. You saying he absolutely doesn't study and is just a natural ace is actually more headcanon than what I'm suggesting since there's no real basis for believing that he doesn't study other than we just don't see it and he's doing good in school. Which you don't need to be a prodigy to be able to do.
>Watch the scene again.
I did.
> He literally just turns on a bunch of random screens
No he literally types in shit while she is distraced and like I mentioned she does say the computer couldn't have done this process itself. Nice that you completely ignored and ommitted that, means you can't refute it.
>We never really see much of him in school
Again stop writing for the movie. It's the film's fault if it won't present a Miles who studies. Across the Spider-verse presents this as him being naturally smart and gifted. You telling me "s-surely he must have studied" somehwere doesn't prove shit. He is so busy being Spider-Man he can't which you are shown by Across constantly when we see him in his own world.
>No he literally types in shit while she is distraced and like I mentioned she does say the computer couldn't have done this process itself. Nice that you completely ignored and ommitted that, means you can't refute it.
You see him turn on multiple different programs and jumping between different screens in literal split seconds that she has to turn back off. He is not doing anything beyond turning random shit on you can even see her dealing with the other shit he turned on in the pic I provided and you see after he gets his eye scanned the machine comes down on it's own automatically without him needing to press anything else. And no I didn't ignore it because she didn't say the computer couldn't done the process itself she ONLY says
"The machine activated on it's own." to which lyla says "how is that possible." to which she says "it isn't."
>He is so busy being Spider-Man he can't which you are shown by Across constantly when we see him in his own world.
This is pure headcanon on your part. He's busy being spiderman but it's clearly not to the point he's missing so many classes that he wouldn't be able to keep up unless he was some super genius who didn't need to study. He only missed six classes since last movie. Six classes which isn't even really that many. Even assuming he has 120 minute class periods that's only about 12 hours of missed school out of a year. He's pressed sure but not that pressed and he's clearly working hard and neglecting his social life between school and spider-manning so he can get into Princeton so he can learn about the multiverse shit which is something he is actively working towards. Just because he's smart and gifted doesn't make him a genius prodigy who wouldn't need to study because he is still obviously putting the work in to maintain his good grades it's not hard to figure out.
>O-Okay he does something but it doesn't count
Can you stop moving the goalpost?
>e's busy being spiderman but it's clearly not to the point
Can Milesgays stop being illiterate for 10 seconds challenge. The dude misses important family matters, school and opportonities to hang out with people because he is Spider-Man. He is missing out everything and you would see that with his parents visiting his school.
Yes. He did do something. Turn it on. He literally just turned a bunch of programs by on to distract her and in the same span of time he did randomly turning those who he activated the machine, got scanned, and let the machine do the rest. There's no complicated process for that machine and you see it when Miguel sends Gwen back home. No one even needed to input anything, it just activated and machine did the rest. I cannot break it down any simpler. The machine is high-tech but the process is clearly nothing more than turn on, get scanned, and get sent home. Now you can argue that that is incredibly plot-convenient, which it is, but not that Miles is some high-level genius super hacker.
>Can Milesgays stop being illiterate for 10 seconds challenge
What's illiterate about it? He doesn't live with his parents and says at his dorm so he doesn't spend much time with them. He is extremely busy but the fact alone he only missed six classes out of an entire year and some months clearly shows that he's still making plenty of time to do well in school and doing as much as he possibly can for his goal of getting into Princeton. He is neglecting his personal life, yes. I never denied that but that's not what we're arguing here. We're purely talking about time in school which we see he's clearly not neglecting nearly as much as he is with his social life - having no friends besides Ganke and of course all the issues with his parents you brought up. Miles is prioritizing spider-manning and his academics over everything else and we learn why is because he's still hung on being with Gwen and Peter and the others again.
> It's forgotten in the second film.
You’re just being moronic on purpose now.
Oh yeah that was HUGE foucs in the second film who could have forgotten that second of Miles looking at his grafitti. Immense focus. Carries throughout the plot
Bro, you’re just moronic. However, that’s okay anon.
>If he’s such an artist why didn’t he design his own suit? AND NO DESIGNING HIS OWN SUIT DOESN’T COUNT!1!1!!
Anon, I…
Compare Miles painting a suit black to pic related. Who would you say is "artistic" out of the two.
tbf, just because you're good at designing doesn't mean you'd be great at painting murals or sculpting or photography etc etc. I'm great at sketching and decentish at making clay sculptures myself but I can't paint to safe my life
I wish that a few of these would be available in a Spidey game.
Yeah remember that timne when art really impacted the movie of Across the Spiderverse. The Spot better be ready to handle the focus of the Miles Morales' art. It's a huge part of him being Spider-Man after all unlike Peter Parker.
If Miles is such an artist why hasn't he designed his own suit yet? And no, spray painting another suit black with a red spider and some red bits isn't "designing" anything. It's a quick fix that a non-artist would do to get the job done
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>all black suit with a stencil spider
>none of Miles's design process is shown
Wow really flexing the artist's mind there
It’s pretty funny how much he forgot the peter that died
I kind of like that Insomniac tried to make Miles a naive teen boy who trusts too easily and struggles with staying emotionally distant, but his model looks older then Peter's and it kills the momentum.
>his model looks older then Peter's and it kills the momentum.
Kek this and they keep talking to him like he's a kid
piss>shit
riveting observation
OP has the word "spiderverse" in it, you might be moronic
obviously
Miles sucks either way
Both are just "Spider-Man but black" with nothing else going for them. They're both written and treated like 90s children PSAs unironically, can't wait until the pendulum swings back and people are allowed to rip into him.
>theme of his movie "no one can tell him he doesn't belong" said out loud by his mom
What corny shit lmao
Shut up Batman.
Miles kicks ass and is currently beating your movie.
>Miles kicks ass
Not true. Miles has his own distinct personality and it's much more boring than Peter's.
>Miles has his own distinct personality
Let's see
>Super smart
>Not rich
>Loses a close family member to get what responsibility is
>Has the same villains as Peter
>Same superhero title
>Gets the same girlfriend
>Has to balance private and superhero life, is afraid of telling his loved ones about superhero identity
>Both are insecure about their place in the world when they start out
Don't tell me him listening to music counts to you as a distinct personality?
All of that shit is shallow as frick and are not even personality traits. Try again.
What is shallow about this and why are you afraid of mentioning how Miles has a distinct personality totally different from Peter. Here is two I forgot to mention as well
>Loves to simp over a woman
>Quips a lot during Spider-Man time
None of those are really personality traits and are flimsy points to rally against someone. But to start:
Miles is more assertive and personable than most iterations of peter who usually is a shy wallflower or a bit of a sarcastic smartass depending on the medium. Miles is also more rebellious towards his parents and carefree while Peter tends to much more obedient and well-behaved and serious and goal-orientated and Miles only becomes more focused after he accepts the spider-man role and even then he's much more laidback than peter.
He's much more emotional, easier to anger, and reckless while Peter has a much higher boiling point and still thinks things out most of the time. They're both a bit awkward around girls but Miles finds his footing with them alot easier and has no problems casually flirting or expressing interest. Peter is pretty law-abiding most of the time while Miles would happily run around with his uncle who he knows is a criminal not a super-villain but he knows Aaron isn't exactly a model citizen. Miles is much much more reluctant about becoming a hero and embracing responsibility than Peter was as he still tries to cling to an easy life. Under the mask, Miles is pretty much just his usual self while Peter adopts a much more confident, wise-cracking persona and alter-ego as Spider-Man and actively taunts others while Miles is reactionary and flippant. They also carry themselves pretty differently while Miles tries to act like a cool guy but is kind of a clumsy dork, Peter actually is a cool guy if still a bit nerdy when he gets over his early geekiness (in most stories anyways). And if we just go with the into the Spiderverse iterations of Peter alone they're very distinct from each other for anyone to see the differences.
>None of those are really personality traits
In what way is being super smart or insecure not a personality trait
>Miles is more assertive and personable
No he isn't. Peter is very assertive and personable as well.
>shy wallflower
What the frick are oyu even talking about. Have you ever read a comic. Even in the movies he won't let him get himself get pushed around once he is Spider-Man
>Miles is also more rebellious towards his parents
He isn't though. Fact is he is pretty much meek against what his parents tell him having others convince him of doing stuff against their wishes
>He's much more emotional, easier to anger
You are literally discribing Peter
>but Miles finds his footing with them
So does Peter. He gets around quickly once he becomes Spider-Man. Dumb argument
>Miles tries to act like a cool guy but is kind of a clumsy dork, Peter actually is a cool guy i
What? Peter is in fact the opposite of a cool guy which you see constantly with Peter B.
Now onto this
>Super smart
Not a literal scientist prodigy like Peter and is more prone to saying and doing stupid shit. Granted Peter does too but at a much lesser frequency. Miles' stupidity despite his intelligence is pretty much a running gag.
>Not rich
He's upper-middle class. He doesn't struggle financially and his personal issue is just that he doesn't mix with actual rich and privileged more uptight kids in his new school.
>Loses a close family member to get what responsibility is
Aaron's death only motivated him to stay on that path he was already on. His learning responsibility came from blond peter's death, Mary jane's speech to the city, and his mother's words on not running away from things.
>Has the same villains as Peter
Some of whom in spiderverse are versions that have more than their fair share of differences in the way they're utilized or portrayed to make them feel fresh. Other spider-man adjacents also do this and no one really whines about it.
>Same superhero title
It's been decades man. The spider-man mantle has belonged to every dick and jane at this point even before Miles.
>Gets the same girlfriend
An AU version who is completely different from the Gwen that Peter actually knew and loved and she and miles obviously have a different dynamic to exploe.
>Has to balance private and superhero life, is afraid of telling his loved ones about superhero identity
Literally every single hero who has a secret identity has this struggle. It's not unique to Peter. In PS4 though I like how his neighborhood knows who he is and they all just keep it a secret and work with him to keep their community safe. I hope spiderverse goes the same route it's such a nice take and I feel that'd give Miles more distinction than Peter.
>Both are insecure about their place in the world when they start out
Fair but it's a normal human response especially for you know being the protector of a city and knowing lives are going to be in your hands.
He's not smart, his mom is a nurse and dad is a cop, he lose nothing, he has no nemesis, that's one, Peter had 30+ girlfriends miles only had 3 and Gwen is still not one, literally his mom, dad, best friend and 2/3 of his ex-gf know he is Spider-man, Miles is externally motivated Peter is internally.
Saying Miles is the same as Peter is insulting to the OG Spider-man
>he has no nemesis
He can fix that.
>gets a D-lister Peter beat regularly except now he gets massive buffs all to push Miles over harder
I like this version of Spot but c'mon it's still pretty bad
Both are really hideous.
It was over before it began. Get to filtering, starting with "Spider-Man"
All miles is terrible and the perfect example of why corporate art is soulless menageries of homosexuals exploiting everyone and anyone for a quick buck
I found the moments between Miles's dad and Spider-man with his fake deep voice to be some of the comedic high points of the film.
If that is a reference to something Peter did, please fill me in.
Homecoming Spider-Man did something akin to this with Prowler to sound more adult.
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And I think he also does some shit like this when he is later in Washington and at the third arc when he steals Flash's car.
OK that didn't take very long. I don't know how I forgot about that scene. It is a different kind of comedy when done between father and son, but yeah I guess Peter did everything first.
I said this before but Peter is like the simpsons. He's been a shy wall flower, a wise-cracking butthole rebellious teen, a mature and confident adult and all sorts of things through various iterations. He's pretty much done and been it all. The only ground he hasn't treaded much is being middle-aged adult and family man which might be why People like Peter B so much.
It's a pretty common joke with teenage Spider-Man interacting with adults. EMH did it too
Man doesn't it getting tiring? If you hate Miles so much, just give up on spiderman media that has him in it. I don't deserve to be punished seeing all these garbage threads everyday. Miles isn't going anywhere and I'm not saying that to pick a fight with anyone. It just seems to be objective facts at this point. Giving yourself mental illness over a fictional character is ....bad
This. I'm tired of playing both sides of the argument just to keep threads alive. Let's talk about Ben instead. I like talking about Ben but no one else ever wants to.
Talking about Ben in Spider-Verse will become how badly Ben was handled which leads to how a bunch of characters were handled badly which leads to why they were handled badly.
It's rough being a Ben fan
What's to talk about with Ben? He's a shitty loser who parodies 90s' comics in the film. You guys are so underage
What point are you trying to make here? Do you think Ben is shit or do you dislike how he was handled in the movie?
>Why do people talk about this topic instead of this boring piece of shit "character" who only had a few lines in the movie I'm crying
Gee I wonder what the point is
My point is that Ben is shit and there is nothing to talk about with him. You're also in a Miles thread.
What, how badly they fricked him?
The fricker is in everything so it’s impossible to talk about it without him, how about if you want to love and support bendis so badly just talk about it on Reddit or Twitter?
NTA but you don't see how fricking moronic you are being here?
He is in everything though, every movie cartoon and video game is infested with him. The comics are shit across the board so there isn’t anything good to talk about and the writers are angry about that and decided to make the internal metaphor of the new movie that anyone who doesn’t like miles is racist. So why not just talk about this movie somewhere where they agree with you all about that?
You have like 6 decades worth of content where he never existed.
You call for an exclusive club on 4chin is one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen in my life.
No I’m just calling for you to admit that there’s nothing of value miles adds to that story, and saying that you can shit all over it because daddy corpo let’s you isn’t a solution. So if you can’t handle that you like a terrible character written by a feckless israelite who was making fun of the Black folk he sold the character to, than talk about it elsewhere.
Outside of Spiderverse, Miles has always been a shit character.
>Naw, Imma do my own thing
That's really the best this dogshit writing team could bother with?
Actually forget it, my breaks just about over before I gotta get back to work and I want to eat. If thread dies before I'm back I'll see you gays in the next whining about miles thread.
insomniac Miles is worse than Bendis Miles
I've turned around on Insomniac Miles, his solo game honestly wasn't bad. I really enjoyed his characterization. I just wish the writers didn't give him so many generic black guy hobbies, like music mixing.
Phin is still a massive c**t that ruins the story, and the story is already a slight retread of the first game.
The DLC and Miles game really only proves more and more over time that the first game was mostly liked because it ticked off most of the Spidey checkboxes and had a solid ending completely forgetting how most character were kinda badly written including Peter and contained boring fetch quest after boring fetch quest
Miles's game sucked ass outside of the gameplay. The plot was horrible enough to be noticeably bad, but forgettable and generic enough for me to forget exactly why I disliked it so much
Between that and the DLC for the first one, I'm just really hoping it means that Insomniac's A-team writers have simply just been busy with Spider-Man 2 instead, because it's the only explanation as to why MM's and the DLCs' stories were all various shades of crap
The thing no one wants to address and yet is the key problem with Miles as a character isn't that he's black, it's that he's just boring and unremarkable. He has no iconic solo stories or a memorable rogue's gallery and almost his entire personality is "he's a smart black kid." He can't get out from under Peter's shadow because he hasn't done anything to really set himself apart.