Spoil me my friends. Whatever happened to that 3 Jokers plot they were cooking? I'm too lazy to Google.
Is it just another "it's just the multiverse lmao" copout or was there something actually more profound and clever behind it?
My DC knowledge ends with Post Crisis
You want to know what happened?
Fricking nothing happened.
The three jokers are just one Joker and two guys he brainwashed into being him.
He had been doing this for years to dozens of people and that is why there are so many short lived versions of jokers.
Then they all die anyway.
The backgrounders were all killed by Mista J for being failed experiments. Frankly I don't remember who kills who of the main three. They get down to one Joker again and that's it.
Status quo maintained.
Watch, next they'll explain that Bruce Wayne has a rare form of meta schizophrenia that causes his brain chemistry to change based on who is currently writing his book, which explains in-canon the different Batman personalities over the years.
I'M GONNA EXPLOOM.
They should try to explain how he is capable of beating the shit out of Speedsters and New Gods whenever he is in a team or crossover book.
Oh so it's yet another nonsensical inconsequential storyline...
This is exactly what grant was talking about when he said people don’t need to know who keeps the bat mobile’s tires inflated.
Nobody asked why the joker dresses or acts different in different eras. Yet morons like johns (some tool like Scott Snyder would have done it if not for him) seem to think it’s this beautiful peculiarity rife for exploration. These people need to stop writing comics about comics, a statement I know is silly when mentioning grant but he needs to cut that shit out too.
Inb4 it’s not “he”, yes it is.
>This is exactly what grant was talking about when he said people don’t need to know who keeps the bat mobile’s tires inflated.
>Nobody asked why the joker dresses or acts different in different eras.
But Grant did go out of his way to explain that, though. He made it so that Dick coming along made him change hi methods, and when Dick left for college he went back to his older ways(which coincides with the 1969 changes and Dennis O'neil beginning to write the book).
Plus he had that whole issue and plotline about the Joker metamorphosing his persona every few years
Well he fricking shouldn't have, and he should be beaten with hammers for writing such a self-important fart-sniffing crap. Comics are not profound by picking up and running with every inconsistency or blink-and-miss-it thing going on, it's not a story cleverly laid out by one writer, it's fat homosexuals writing over some other fat homosexual's works.
Canon is a cancer that needs to be regarded as inherently disposable, and I'm tired of pretending it isn't. It only establishes a false paradigm of quality between nepotistic israelites in media and the consumers and replicators of that project. Fans are more qualified to tell the stories of superheroes than the intellectual property hoarding dragons working in DC and Marvel. The entire paradigm of copyright and fair use needs to be torn down and destroyed, the only work you should be able to defend from reproduction is the work you yourself make, not the concepts of characters or settings themselves.
So you want to go back in time and stop Alan Moore from writing The Killing Joke?
Yes, honestly, but the next best thing is disregarding it.
No I’m not accepting this consumer fault false paradigm, it’s the same shit that enables fentanyl. If you’re refusing to let anyone else write with those characters and settings because YOU own the ‘rights’ to do so exclusively, (as if thoughts about concepts are a physical privilege and not making money off of people for nothing.) then you have to justify it with quality, certification without consquence is just government kickbacks and they’re enabling a culture of ‘well X is shit but it matters to Y because Z so I gotta watch/read/eat it’. No more, strip the whole paradigm out by the roots. All you should be entitled to hoarding is what you make with your own hands. No more ‘you can’t use this likeness’, no quality is protected, only greed and entitlement to an IP’s scope. It’s stupid and I want it all gone, and I don’t care if it’s fascist or communist or whatever, I hate it, I want it gone.
ok schizoid.
>Fans are more qualified to tell the stories of superheroes than the intellectual property hoarding dragons working in DC and Marvel.
the whole concept of continuity only really became ingrained because fanboys started working in comics in the 70's. The corpos would gladly just nix any real continuity and modern editors don't give a shit.
>Canon is a cancer that needs to be regarded as inherently disposable
If nothing matters, why should I care about comics ?
Does canon really matter if it constantly gets retconned, rebooted, and flat out ignored?
You are somehow the worst poster in this thread and that's saying something.
Snyder did the opposite, he teased that Joker was actually some immortal monster and then revealed that he made it all up with photoshop
Gotta give credit where credit is due
He shouldn't have teased to begin with. Making Joker into Lucius the Undying is one of the worst recent ideas DC's put out.
>Making Joker into Lucius the Undying is one of the worst recent ideas DC's put out.
I disagree, the problem is they need to actually commit to it.
>commit to a bad idea
This is genuinely the most moronic thing ever Scott Snyder fans all need to kill themselves
>Inb4 it’s not “he”, yes it is.
based and there are two genders pilled
Why do people like Geoff Johns
Geoff Johns appeals to fans that just want to mash their favorite action figures together because he's essentially one of them except he managed to get into the writer's chair.
>He had been doing this for years to dozens of people and that is why there are so many short lived versions of jokers.
No, moron, there's only three.
You didn't read it.
I envy that, but you're still a homosexual.
Yes they did.
Weren't they failed copies that died from being acid dipped though?
I think they find a room full of joker corpses that is explicitly that, but a lot of these named ones are pretty overt references.
I haven't read this shit since it came out, correct me if I'm wrong just don't make me read it again.
I thought Fabok was a great artist before seeing Three Jokers, but he's kind of a hack that is really limited in expression and faces.
There are panels where Bruce and Jason look like the same person.
>The three jokers are just one Joker and two guys he brainwashed into being him.
>Also, Jason Todd loves Barbara, but left a stupidly worded note "if you don't respond, I'll take that as a no and never bring it up again", but the note gets lost.
>Also his wife and kid from TKJ backstory are still alive and only faked their death to get away from him.
Isn't Geoff supposed to be one of DC's best modern (post-2000) writers? How did this shit get past editorial?
>How did this shit get past editorial?
Why do you think it wouldn't? Editorial loves Geoff Johns apart from Didio's petty grudge about DC Rebirth, and why would they hate the chance to go back to the Killing Joke well when it's such a popular and high-selling story?
>Isn't Geoff supposed to be one of DC's best modern (post-2000) writers?
Absolutely not lol, he might be regarded as such by a lot of people but he's the very definition of safe mediocrity.
He was Editorial, he was Cheif Creative Officer, basically he was responsible for corporate synergy between multimedia helping TV, Movies and Games keep the important details straight.
Didn't they try a similar thing years ago with joker constantly making Harleys and killing them too?
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What's Beck got to do with Geoff Johns?
Gee Batman! How come your mom lets you have THREE Jokers-- oh wait.
Two of them get shot through the head to leave one Joker again. Also they made The Killing Joke 100% canon instead of 95% with wiggle room like normal protocol. That's it. It's profoundly disappointing, frankly.
Also, Batman knows who the Joker is, but doesn't tell to protect his family.
Also, Jason Todd loves Barbara, but left a stupidly worded note "if you don't respond, I'll take that as a no and never bring it up again", but the note gets lost.
Weirdly, I remember liking the Joe Chill parts, but I can't remember anything about them.
>Weirdly, I remember liking the Joe Chill parts, but I can't remember anything about them.
He is dying and Bruce forgives him, he dies with Bruce holding his hand. Johns tries to justify Joe's actions with "social justice."
I hate the whole "Joe Chill killed Bruce's parents, let's give Batman closure with his death/forgiving him" bullshit, it worked better early post-Crisis when it was some random, nameless mugger who killed the Waynes, it isn't about one criminal, it's about crime as a whole. Giving Bruce the closure of the one man who killed them misses the point entirely.
The DCAU comics did a great take- basically inspired by the Bill finger comic- but in this case Batman never finds out.
Joe Chill is a WB decision. It's to differentiate their Batman with any in the Public Domain. They've been doing little tweaks to golden age character's origin's for years
>He is dying and Bruce forgives him, he dies with Bruce holding his hand.
Yeah, that.
Johns tries to justify Joe's actions with "social justice."
Not as much that.
>clever
The idea is as moronic as it gets why would you ever imagine anything about it could be clever?
I admit that I had a pet theory for a long time that half the reason the Joker keeps coming back is that he's basically become a societal meme in that nutbars of all stripes of life assume his identity and raid the gotham pd or any of Joker's secret hideouts to continue his crime sprees unabated. And no, I'm aware it's not really logical when I inspect it due to the fact it'd be ridiculous for Batman to not recognize the Joker's not the same guy after the first or second time, but it's a helluva lot more logical than Three Jokers is.
>I admit I once wrote a fan fiction
Yes we know, there are a lot of moronic middle schoolers like you writing moronic shit. The difference is this was a professional comic written by a grown as man, edited by grown ass adults, published by a professional company.
What are you, nuts? I didn't make that into fanfiction. Nobody needs to be exposed to this crap outside of Cinemaphile.
They basically did what they did with Doomsday Clock. Meaning they pretty much made it non-canon and handwaved it away and then never mentioned it again.
>Dr Manhattan: Superman, your my ido..
>Superman: Your whole life is meaningless lol
>Dr Manhattan: Shit you're right...
>Rorschach II: You know maybe bringing back an awful character to be a heroic figure is a bad thing
>Batman: LOL do it homosexual
>Rorschach II: Well, can't say no...
I'm pretty sure it's semi-canon where it did happen in the mainline universe but not exactly meaning you can hand wave away all the moronic shit so nearly 93% of the story
Riddler mentions the existence of the three Jokers at the end of Batman Catwoman: Gotham War.
>Doomsday Clock
It's sad what happened to that series.
To this day, I still don't know how they allowed so much delay between issues.
How is that sad? The thing was a shameless cashgrab trying to pretend it wasn't.
Johns just wrote a shitty sequel to the Killing Joke where TKJ Joker brainwashed a couple of randos to think they were the Joker despite TKJ not even being the first in the timeline. Also his wife and kid from TKJ backstory are still alive and only faked their death to get away from him.
I think it's funny how pathetic Jason Todd is in this comic, at least the Joker didn't convince him to kill himself like Azzarello did.
There's a bit to unpack here so I'll take it piece by piece
Three Jokers is in continuity but a Batman event released at the same time Joker War in the main conics directly contradicts it, and was only recently mentioned as a joke by the Riddler in Batman Catwoman War crossover
DC's current continuity says most everything(sorry Power Girl fans) happened in order of publication but there's been no effort to deal with all the redundancies and contradictions or make a timeline of events. Again Joker War directly contradicts Three Joker by basically having the same finale of a final battle that destroys the Monarch Theatre and need Joker knowing Batman's secret ID.
Focusing on Three Jokers
The Joker from The Killing Joke is the real Joker, you learn his real name and expand on his origin to reveal that comedian origin from that book is his real origin.
For no reason given at some point in the past he created the other two who get killed throughout the story
The other two Joker's have settled on trying to create the perfect Joker, so they're jokerfying people left and right
The real Joker who knows Bruce Wayne is Batman at the same time concocts a scheme to get Batman to forgive Joe Chill whose dying in prision of cancer
The Joker's reasoning being he wants to be thing Batman cares about the most, while the other Jokers decide that Joe Chill should become the Joker.
Batman saves and forgives Joe Chill, the Monarch theater is destroyed and we learn that the Joker's wife from TKJ is alive and had his baby and Batman has always known who the Joker was.
And Red Hood and Barbara Batgirl disgustingly hook up and mercifully break up.
Wait didn't Red Mask make 3 Jokers or something?
>Is it just another "it's just the multiverse lmao" copout or was there something actually more profound and clever behind it?
it was actually even more stupid
Joker was kidnapping homeless men, low end criminals, child rapists, etc and turning them into Jokerized versions of themselves in a bid to create body doubles of himself. Only two of them actually worked, one based on his earlier gangster persona and one based on his Silver Age/Bronze Age persona with the gangster Joker being given control over the operation while Joker did other shit.
Red Hood killed Silver/Bronze Age Joker and Gangster Joker got killed while trying to turn a dying Joe Chill into a Joker.
The real Joker (who was helping the three) ended up going back to jail, where the big pay-off to the whole mess was Joker officially confirming, after Snyder danced around the issue for years since New 52 started, that Joker knows that Bruce Wayne=Batman and that he went along with trying to Jokerize Joe Chill in order to force Bruce to forgive him so that Joker would truly be his one true mortal enemy.
And the zinger is that Bruce has known Joker's real name since day one too and that Bruce's ultimate revenge is that Joker's wife and son are alive and well, having been smuggled out of Gotham by two cops who were affiliated with an "underground railroad" for abused women that helped her escape the then-Red Hood and faked her death to do so.
One of the Jokers created the other 2 Jokers thought brainwashing. The newer one kills the other ones.
Jason was being groomed to be a new Joker.
The kid from Moore's Joker's origin story is alive and so his wife. They were hidden by the police. So he has now a wife and a son.
But the biggest turn of events...its that its not canon. Which is weird because the reveal of the 3 Jokers with the mobius chair is canon as it appears in the main continuity. But this story is not canon.
>its that its not canon
Its canon if other writers want to use it. Theres no ban on it or anything like that.
But no one wants to, understandably.
But why Batman don't rape the Jokers? Which one did Batman raped?
A story about Three Jokers isn't inherently bad, at the surface it's a fun pulpy concept like comics should be.
The execution just wasn't very good.
>They are 3 Jokers, based on his Golden Age, Silver Age and Modern Age style
>Actually only one of them is the Joker, others are just larping
>Joker heals Bruce from his trauma because he wants his full attention
>Series end with Joker saying "I'M THE DEVIIIIIIL"
Geoff "The Racoon" really hates nuance.