Why did NuTrek fail?
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Because after Rodenberry died, nobody in management knew what Star Trek was all about.
If Roddenberry were alive we’d have ten spin-offs starring Wil Wheaton
Rodenberry was a clueless coomer. Star Trek isn't about anything, it's a serial wish fulfilment simulator for balding losers that were "too smart to succeed". The fact that the only successful Star Trek content with mass appeal is an adult cartoon proves that it really was never good to begin with.
no one watched or liked that shit
Don't talk to that anon. They're mad that their shitty LD thread got trolled.
>Lower Decks season 2 and 3 have 100% perfect rotten tomatoes scores
>Most watched show on Paramount+
Your boomer drivel has been disbunked. Let it go.
Decks season 2 and 3 have 100% perfect rotten tomatoes scores
The same review site that says Black Panther is the #1 movie of all time?
>>Most watched show on Paramount+
It has barely any subs. kys
>getting you water is your right
>The fact that the only successful Star Trek content with mass appeal is an adult cartoon proves that it really was never good to begin with.
TNG was wildly successful for a syndicated science fiction daytime tv show, competing with major network dramas, with a legacy that solidly places it amongst the best television shows of all time as you can see on basically any list
no one will ever know how popular streaming-only pickle trek actually is, and it'll be forgotten quicker than the original animated series
>syndicated
muh things that don't work as it happened a long time ago
kys geezer
>no actual response so all he can do is tell me INCORRECTLY that syndication isn't a thing anymore
>syndication isn't a thing anymore
it is a thing, but not for the audience of LODE
syndication is for geezer crap like NCIS
only homosexuals would be stupid to wait the correct time to watch a show like senior folk
Rick Berman did, Braga did. Enterprise was kino, Voyager and DS9 were great.
lol trek newbies. berman and braga destroyed star trek.
If I see one more person credit DS9 to Rick Berman...
everything you like about DS9 wouldn't exist if Berman didn't frick off to go ruin Voyager.
If Roddenberry was alive he’d cuck it out and we’d have what others in here already said. Post-Rod gave us Deep Space 9.
*ahem*
*taps mic*
BERMAN DID
Michael Piller did but he died
Plenty of people did, then ENT ended and a new team was formed with nobody from the older teams being a part of it. NuTrek sucks because the writing and production sucks, they went with nepo hires instead of talented people who cared about the universe.
Big time. Old trek was great because it took in spec scripts and rewarded talented writing regardless of connections.
Mythical "there are good writers out there" never proven.
There are no gatekeepers anymore, the writers could publish on ebooks or any other media, still those good wirters are never found, only the scapegoat of nepo claims
>Old trek was great because it took in spec scripts
That was a very brief period of TNG's run and they only used a handful of them.
It was cool, but don't make it bigger than it was.
>Old trek was great because it took in spec scripts
such classics like "bar association"
Apparently it went on longer than I thought. I thought they ended that policy when Jeri Taylor took over TNG.
Guess I was wrong.
accepting spec scripts in general was a pretty common practice in the 60s.
>Family misunderstandings and problems won't exist in the future
Rodenberry was a fricking moron
He thought a genocidal war between genetically superior oligarchs (or so they think) and nuclear holocaust of most major cities (thus ALL trannies, israelites and commies) would help evolve humans to become better.
I'm VERY much inclined to agree with him.
>jews
it's funny because there's a literal deep state, section 31, and it wasn't introduced by roddenberry but ~~*berman*~~, ~~*piller*~~ and ~~*behr*~~
hmmmm indeed
because they made DS9 under faulty pretenses.
>dude we know about the best and brightest of the federation but what about the SEEDY UNDERBELLY??
>wait, actually there isn't one because the federation/starfleet doesn't need to fill ranks with shitty people. oh well we're still stuck making this show so here's uh... pah wraiths and uh, like a war or something i don't know.
>there isn't one because the federation/starfleet doesn't need to fill ranks with shitty people.
statiscally impossible even with eugenics
... you think of hundreds of trillions of people, that they need more than .1% of them for their paramilitary expeditionary force? That starfleet has any real need for a hundred million ships?
don't mix starfleet with federation
starfleet is mostly human, and Terrans wont get over 20 billion.
Except they are mixed. Starfleet isn't solely humans, by any stretch. starfleet is the federation's paramilitary/expeditionary force.
2% of a starfleet ship is alien
10% tops
Well, thanks for the headcanon. can't have a star trek thread without it.
At any point in star trek, was it ever shown that an admiral had any influence in the academy? Any reasoned civilization knows no system can regulate itself. Involving the military in military training means steadily loosening standards.
>Any reasoned civilization knows no system can regulate itself
All civilizations are corrupt, including Vulcan.
Spock was a mutt and his papa helped him up.
>including vulcan
at what point was it ever implied they were something to aspire to be?
on Amok Time
They pretend to be all logical, but indulge in secret battles to the death.
Hypocrites like most geezers, lol.
And... what part of Amok Time do you think was glorifying/lionizing vulcan civilization?
Read the post again? Read in general? Learn what words mean?
utopia is gay and impossible
simple as
A stable automatically self-regulating "utopia" is impossible. Just like an engine that will never break down is impossible. Just like perpetual motion is impossible.
But hey, I know how I'd feel if I didn't have breakfast this morning. You're a spastic ESL.
Take a break from the internet, anon.
not an argument
all power structures will have problems when the old guard refuses to be replace, including geezer trekkies
>when the old guard refuses to be replace
Tree of liberty, blood of tyrants, etc.
But we both know your IQ is in the 70-80 range, so why even try to talk about this, with anyone? outside of your native language no less?
Sarak has no real influence in starfleet. Spock had to attend the academy and pass the tests. Sarek took his joining starfleet as a betrayal.
You'd still have nepotism with grumpy jaded admirals.
>noooooooooooo, muh utopia
sure and affirmative action of low iq
nepotism doesn't work when you need to attend the academy and pass all the exams.
lol
the top dogs and the professors know each other and pat their backs
I liked how Quark put it, that these nice hoomans are the best but put them in terrible situations under a lot of stress and they turn into not so nice guys
DS9 should've been about this struggle, about war putting the best on their limit but at the same time show how unyielding humans are about their new found values, yes TNG had that in many episodes but the series wasn't about arcs or about a background conflict
instead we get a captain who is complicit in a political assassination and agrees with it????
they kept trying to make series/episodes about that, but then, because they're making episodes of "star trek," the nice hoomans endured all the temporary bullshit they were put through and kept right on being nice hoomans.
That line is, more than anything, quark's biases.
I know it was Quark's bias, and humans do endure (kind of). Yes, this is Star Trek, humans do have to be nice guys in the end. Kirk was bigoted towards Klingons, but just as he spared the lizard guy, he saved the Khitomer Accords and sealed a reconciliation between the Federation and Klingons.
What I'm saying is that Sisko being complicit of a murder, Section 31 (space CIA) attempting to gas an entire species, kinda ruined Roddenberry's utopia for me, and given how nuTrek turned out to be with DISC and Hispanic (Federation abandoning the Romulans, Earth defaulting to Nazism) you can't argue I'm not right in feeling that way.
>shitty fanfiction ruined the core works for me
that's a you problem.
I'm talking about how Trek had incompatible ideas thrown at it as far as DS9. Granted, that wasn't Roddenberry's vision anymore, but still. And the newer Trek shows followed that path of decay and only exacerbated that, so much so that Section 31 is getting its own film? lmao
DS9 was the first to look under the hood.
But got cucked back in the end.
Including retconning gay garak.
yeah frick behr he ruined my man
hey I even liked how he went insane and talked to himself after ziyal died, insane was good not completely moronic evil
definitely chasing ratings, also correct me if I'm wrong but DS9 took a hit when VOY started as they split the budget and the writers, and the writers didn't want to work on that
>Trek had incompatible ideas thrown at it as far as DS9
Which is something I completely agree with, hence why I called it fanfiction. berman/braga were trying to jazz it up and chase ratings, but they only ever succeeded in diminishing star trek.
They had family problems in star trek. It seems like humans are on average more intelligent in the future. Higher intelligence could lead to less misunderstandings and more patience. The dumbest humans seem around average intelligence by our standards.
Violence, stupidity and greed are holding us back today.
Yeah but he didn't like it. Rodenberry hated the TNG episode where Picard goes back to his vineyard and fights with his brother
>Rodenberry hated
he was a gay, everyone got along, but he was not creative to describe how
>muh war
was never enough
Berman was far from perfect but he cared a lot about TNG era Trek's Utopianism.
ENT is shit until Coto shows up and the problem is Berman/Braga really liking TNG worked against him. It's supposed to be a prequel to TOS but it's written like a prequel to TNG.
>Because after Rodenberry died,
He died? When?
it really seems that way, they turned it into LGBT american political parties star wars
Gene wanted Trannies on the show and Berman hold him.
Most things that geezers like of TNG are post Gene.
Gene episodes were too much like TOS and had poopy sets
you can stop with this whole "star trek always sucked" thing. No one is falling for it. No one will ever fall for it.
If something like STD had been released in the 60s people would've been fired or found themselves brought up on criminal charges for embezzling.
false equivalency as ever
try harder
lol, oh hey, i suspected that was you.
still don't know what words mean, huh?
implying I care
>TOS and had poopy sets
Is this really the level of discourse we're at now?
Gene tried too much too force TOS into TNG, including sets
TNG only got good when fricked off, it is a fact.
Pretty much.
Ugly passionless CGI shit.
Rape Moonvess hated the goy's positive futuristic vision of an evolved humanity without israeli supremacy and sold it to Abrams,
so he could subvert it into the exact satanic opposite.
Endless prequels and too much modern partisan woke shit, plus shoehorning gays into everything.
Despite Berman's problems, at least he kept Star Trek fairly straight for a decade and tried to tell interesting stories, without letting them go batshit.
Because instead of making Trek they made "checkbox" shows.
>we need a woke black female lead show
>we need a Rick and Morty cartoon show
>we need a show that brings back a legacy character like Picard
>we need a show that addresses modern political shit
>(they combined the previous 2)
>we need a kids show
>we need TOS prequel because making new characters is hard
reminder of the first to fell
S to spit on prodigy
>Every Series. Every Episode
>but Strange New Worlds is on youtube and amazon prime
>oh and the movies are on other streaming services
only if you live on a shit country that is not the USA
so you should not be watching anyway
Neo Nu-Trek is so bad that it unironically makes me miss the JJ movies.
kys
>Why did NuTrek fail?
Its Star Trek made by people who don't like Star Trek and they're desperate to turn it into something that it is not
Why modern star trek fails:
We are tried of mankind in its high horse spewing morals to other races, while IRL we know we will never get along. Enough with gay Utopia that won't come.
Quick, someone post the autograph lines pic.
I wanna see
it happened 10 years ago, Combs is a just a wienersucker
>it happened 10 years ago
Frick off moron he's next to the empty line for the Star Trek Discovery cast and that show only started back in the fall of 2017.
proof or kys
nobody owes you SHIT
kys tho
neither paramount
checkmate
nobody here is playing chess either, moron
>only FRONT half of "lines" visible
it's just the fricking con promoters while everybody is standing in Kate's line,
isn't it,
disingenuous fricking troony!
Tjatlady in the blue shirt that is focused on signing.....THATS TENDI!
She has big eyes!
>it happened 10 years ago
It happened in 2018 over a year after Discovery started so kys homosexual.
got baited to prove something to me
you are my b***h, now make me a trek sandwich
Let’s see the big, beautiful version.
We know you want to suck his dick
just say it
I would give head to Mr. Combs, such a gentleman.
That would certainly re-animate him
>photo posted illustrating an older franchise supporting character drawing crowds while the NuTrek stars twiddle their thumbs
>(You): OH YEAH? I BET U WANNA SUCK HIS DICK! HURRRRRRRRR
But, you would, wouldn't?
Would he treat me to a candle lit dinner and say he loves me? And would he wear the antennae?
Damning
I actually like the cast of Discovery, I just think the writing is terrible. They're pretty talented people, they're just written like it's a stupid soap opera instead of Star Trek.
Saru and Georgiou are the only too competent people on this show, but I only just started S3.
I feel sorry for Doug Jones being stuck in this garbage for 5 seasons
A paycheck is a paycheck. Plus the conventions keep paying well into the future.
Addendum: I hate this character. I hate everything about her.
That's funny, that was the one thing I actually liked about STD. Half-autistic engineer doing horrible shit to people to sustain their lives, knowing it was all fixable.
>Half
I notice there's no line
crowded
It's just one person at each station, that's not crowded
not shows for you, that is zero
Do you want to try again in English?
He's extremely riled up right now, ESLs lose their English the more heated they get.
Your gay actor may have had one biggie line in 2018
But you and him have no new shows to watch.
Your win is like a fart in the wind.
I have a lengthy backlog of kinos to watch, that's not a problem. You are free to keep watching star slop, at least until Paramount folds and deletes it all like Prodigy
But deep down you are bitter and resentful.
I think it's hilarious watching Paramount's chickens come home to roost. The only person seething is (You)
... about?
Even when they try, no one is able to produce a proper trek show to appease your taste.
... because TNG, TOS, and the TOS movies stopped existing?
You want new proper stuff and will never get
No matter who is in charge, new proper trek is impossible, the zeitgeist is way past.
>You want new proper stuff and will never get
Except they're making new good stuff all the time. Its not star trek, but I don't think there's even much they can do with star trek.
You pretending to be someone happily slurping down pure liquid shit straight from a israelite's anus doesn't fill me with "resentment," disgust giving way to curiosity/concern, maybe.
>Except they're making new good stuff all the time.
top 10 examples of last 2 years?
I'd have to think about that, and I don't consider spastic ESLs worthy of much more than low effort mockery.
I believe you can't list them.
But you have some unfounded optimistic bias.
>Alex Kurtzman is still in charge
They haven't actually tried
Their hearts are black and oily with hatred. They could never make real trek.
by "their" hearts, the humanity in geral, yes
Literally who, like literally.
The only one I recognize is Kate Mulgrew. I'm guessing the zoomers are the VAs for that stupid cartoon?
Kirk's line should be "Let them die" like it was in the movie. There was no need to change it for this meme.
But we're not talking about Klingons, we're talking about Paramount.
So? He's responding to Spock. In this meme "them" would mean Paramount.
Because they didn't let them die.
Imagine DS9 and VOY without Klingons.
Ferengi would be the baddies, with HUUUGE schlongs.
Roddenberry really was half mad when that project started,
thankfully he and his israeli lawyer only fricked the 1st season up.
all these new shows split the star trek fandom in half and made everyone bitter, with new people into the franchise calling those who enjoy the older shows "TNGeezers" or some other ridiculous names
call me a schitzo but I think they did this on purpose, whether it's purely for money to incentivize people to watch the newer shit or part of the israelite culture war, that's on you, but it perfectly mirrors what happened with other fandoms such as star wars and they're doing it with all other beloved franchises under the sun
one's thing for certain, there used to be a palpable camaraderie among star trek watchers that encouraged you to enjoy the shows with equally passionate people, that's gone now
you don't get it
the geezers gatekeep new crowd and new things because reasons
it proves on the meta side that trek utopia would never work IRL because the old guard is never able to change and be peaceful
mankind is shit and will always be, proven on side /trek/ alone
rendering hypocrite enjoying show about utopia
it's unironically all part of a mass scheme to atomize society
atomized individuals=powerless, easily controlled, depressed, fill void with consumption, etc. more atomized=better cogs
I doubt the writers of these shows are given memos on how to do this, I think its basically a feedback loop where people just get more and more narrow with their tribes and more hateful against other ones. probably gets nudges from the elite though
>"TNGeezers"
that's literally the discord troony meme only found here on tv/trek generals
nobody ever heard of it!
but rest is true, it IS about divide and conquer
Only the israelites are conquering shit,
as their LGBBQ crew couldn't care less about nuTrek (or real Trek) and we Trekkies just don't buy their shit.
Because the current show runners thought they were better than it and ran it into the ground before doing anything with it that the former fanbase wanted to see
>that the former fanbase wanted to see
fan entitlement is cancer of creativity
Jews
Because it is poorly-written trash.
>created years after the guild strike resulted in studios purging experienced writers, breaking the chain of mentorship
>mandated diversity hiring further restricting hiring pool for possible talent
>filled with woke commie garbage (because of diversity hiring pulling in pampered gays, lesbians, and non-whites with imaginary axes to grind)
you get both bad writing AND woke writing)
A few things are not the writer’s or actor’s faults, like studios pushing paywalled streaming format.
>episodic writing largely abolished in favor of stories that take 12 episodes (at least) to tell, packed with boring filler. end result is not much happens and seasons going from 25 episodes to 12 or so.
>skimping on the budget more than ever, relying on bad CGI instead of practical effects.
>paywall means they can churn out shit, safe from the cold truth of Nielsen ratings
>paywall means fewer people see it. paywall also means no syndication, meaning even fewer still see it
>muh things are not like bygone era
tell a modern show that is episodic and sucessful
I will wait
The problems are not mutually exclusive. Bad writing is simply bad writing. SOME shows manage to succeed with a largely non-episodic format, but they have an interesting and GOOD episode-contained mainplot or subplot. Modern Star Trek writers are really quite bad at this. With the episodic format being abandoned you also lose that opportunity to have those few episodes that really stand out and shine, which presents a challenge to even good writers.
whatever the reasoning, it does not matter, it is not compatible with current method of distribution
so, just accept and move on
Episodic IS compatible with the modern form of distribution. Misguided greed is the only inhibitor. The thinking being, “they’ll stay as a monthly subscriber if we drag the plot out” or “they’ll download the ENTIRE season from Amazon instead of just a few episodes this way!” So what they’ve done is make largely boring episodes with little payoff and not much happening, and created a product completely unsuited for future syndication. All of these modern Trek shows are doomed to exist behind a paywall, and nobody really cares, because nothing ever really happens. The few times people discuss these episodes are:
>when the writers rape canon
>when the writers kill somebody off
>when the writers go absurdly commie woke
>Episodic IS compatible with the modern form of distribution. Misguided greed is the only inhibitor.
wishful thinking are not facts
Ah. Not having an argument means the other person’s thinking must be wrong. Honestly, this kind of shoving head into the sand is what’s killing Paramount. None of the current Trek iterations would survive on cable. The fans don’t like any of it. There is a PROFOUND minority of fans who will say they find one or two of these shows merely watchable. These shows have no rewatch value and will be forgotten over time. The lack of merchandise is a huge tell. If these shows were successful there would have been a toy marketing boom, t-shirts and posters and other things like spin-off comics and novels, partnerships with food companies to release special editions with the characters on the box, etc. Oh, and the memes. Where are the memes? I’ve yet to see an organic meme arise from ANY of these shows that wasn’t one shared among Trek groups only to HATE on these shows.
comparing apples to oranges as ever
things that worked out when there was 4 channels + 10 in basic cable
to current era that you can select almost anything on demand, yet younger generation would rather watch twitch than fiction
there is no space for making new trek on the old model, the market is diluted and they would rehash old plots anyway.
basic fiction is dead already, let it go, you sound like a gay that still uses a typewriter
Your journey of abject denial about how NuTrek is actually good:
>name a modern episodic show that is successful
>episodic is incompatible with modern distribution
>you just have wishful thinking
>writing is dead anyway. you’re a gay.
Paramount needs to cancel it all, fix their problems, then try again in another ten years. Make it largely episodic. Make it character driven. Make it inspiring. Avoid modern-day personal politics. Avoid most swearing. Avoid gratuitous violence. Use more practical effects. Hire writers and actors based on merit. Observe cannon established pre-Discovery. Let the fans know a strong and believable launching point will be everything they saw in DISCO/Picard/SNW was an alternate timeline that no longer exists. Release it to cable.
>Avoid modern-day personal politics.
Interesting is how that never was really an issue in oldTrek.
>Release it to cable.
lol
Release it as radio drama already, geez, get on with the times.
Cable forces accountability. They know if fans don’t like it, they are screwed. Plenty of people have cable. And syndication is still a pretty huge deal. Most younger people who knew about Star Trek caught Next Gen in reruns on various cable channels. Hiding things behind paywalls is one reason why ALL show quality is so terrible now. When CBS opted to air the first season of Discovery on cable, it was their second worst rated show. Cable never lies.
you are truly behind
get a grip gramps
Stop antagonizing other posters with name-calling.
gonna cry? homosexual, kys
wanna safe space snowflake?
>Make it inspiring.
this is the ultimate geezer cope
INSPIRATION IS DEAD
we are too far jaded as a species
there is nothing we can do to be better we seen IRL and no gay fiction will change that
60 years of trek inspiration and we are still fighting for gaza
very interesting to say the least
nuTrek is made by talentless israelite vermin whom view every conceivable story through a contemporary amerimutt political lense. I just pray that when they get to Gehenna they are eternally punished for the damage they’ve done.
So he was basically the cpt jack sparrow of star trek.
Only noticing your trips because I like your post.
What the frick happened to the supernova after it went through the black hole?
What happened to the dude they took out of cryostasis in order to put Kirk on ice and why didn't they use his blood instead of Khan's?
I don't know what's happening.
Bad writers? Making the shows just for the money?
>Why did NuTrek fail?
Star Trek is a religious show, with Roddenberry as God & Michael Pillar his prophet, and the people making NuTrek don't believe in the faith.
CAUSE I'VE GOT FAITH
FAITH OF THE HEART
Good riddance.
For me, it's TNG.
Nothing comes close.
Except DS9.
Paramount plus are a bunch of greedy Black person israelites. I use my parents Amazon prime video account and they are subscribed to P+ and I was looking for something to watch one night and I see that they have both godfather movies. I was like
>Shit I haven't watched those in a while I should marathon them tomorrow
Next day they fricking took it off their steaming service.
It's the biggest fricking thing I hate about streaming services, when I want to watch something I've watched before on a streaming service and it was taken off it makes me boil with rage.
All i want to do is watch older kinos i don't want to watch your homosexual new troony shows. I need to find a good VPN and start pirating again.
I knew a guy just like that in high school
He was into astral projection, wore these matrix looking boots stacked like 4-5 inches, wore a pinky ring all sorts of goofy shit. He was a really nice guy tho but thank God tiktok didn't exist back then
what a crowd
Nutrek failed because it's a bucket of shit. If you were asked to eat out of that bucket, would you do it?
infantile take
be deeper or kys
Yes I would. Next question?
B-but how do you KNOW it’s shit? You haven’t even tasted it!
Now that PROD is not canon
no hope for chakotay / janeway love
For the best. Chakotay is so bad in the sack he turned Seven into a lesbian.
who is this female?
Mary Woronov.
my type
Season 2 will air on Netflix where it will find a much larger audience than on Paramount’s dying service. If Netflix is happy with it, they’ll order more.
If they order more, Prodigy could be the last NuTrek standing because Parry+ is about to implode with its raising prices, customer dissatisfaction, and loss of content.
I’d argue Disney is in bigger trouble considering they owe 27 billion by 2024 with only 20m in the bank
>Season 2 will air
... maybe on Pluto or Tubi
just take the loss like a man
I'm going to open a Wells Fargo account as a thank-you for these hilarious headlines
Nutrek is shit ok.
But convince me something good still can be done in current era.
You can't.
Kurtzman
Pleade just add poster ID already so we can out the nutrek trolls. Lower Decks belongs on Cinemaphile anyway.
never, you can seethe or frick off loser
trek is nutrek
old shit should be gone
NuTrek is about to end. Thanks for playing. /trek/ won.
It's over.
the discord trannies somehow got a bit less shrill and so full of self-importance after that one broke
It all comes tumbling down.
when it comes down I will have my physical media, so I will be able to watch DS9 in glorious 480i
I thought the discord trannies were ANTI nutrek?!
No they are very much the biggest shills for it.
Then why does that dipshit who loves SNW and its associated troony keep blaming discord trannies for being behind the dipshit who thinks Garak is gay and hates Nutrek?
don't forget, they're also in the room with him right now.
This is an anonymous image board. No one can know who anyone is, much less their motives.
how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?
I didn't have breakfast.
elab
thinking people can't tell who you are by what/how you post, after you spastically spam for three years, is akin to not understanding how you'd feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning.
a low IQ thing.
your suppositions are so off the mark
no one is fooled bruh.
elab
lmao
Bruh I barely post on Cinemaphile
Its just one ESL, so he's pretty easy to spot.
>Lower Decks belongs on Cinemaphile anyway.
Okay, but threads with cosplayers as OP belong in
. STO or SL discussion on Wrong board.
Until this happens, your demand will not be met.
old shows belong on /trash/ and musem
Hey, homosexual, go back to the general, this isn't it.
The only SL discussion we've had was directly related to the Starfleet guild. My favorite star trek character is Rom.
Here’s a secondary thread because the main /trek/ got hijacked by schizo troons
Use it when this one ends. Assuming the janny troll doesn’t remove it.
>Suffice to say that proper Trek is certainly possible, but under the leadership
You have to facts to prove it, only wishful thinking.
Even it is made, it will feel off, naivette necessary for trek suspension of disbelief is not compatible with current era.
>inb4 muh sincerity
We can change the geist.
60 years of trek optismism did not achieve that
what is the plan?
maybe if texas have a succession would raise the spirits
You need to have faith, anon.
Faith without plan is illogical.
trying to be profound when you sound like a machine translation isn't logical either.
When you have no argument and have to attack the speaker, such a loser tactic.
Not everything is an argument or arguable point, that doesn't mean people have to stop making fun of you for your broken english and low IQ.
you are just a loser
you have state that you can list good things be made lately
but you can't
take the L and frick off
you dont walk the talk
you know white people aren't hurt by internet words, right? Or is this something you can't understand, because they hurt you deeply.
Now, now. There's no need for language.
its secession and since occupy the US has hit a point where people are pretty demoralized, but sustainable.
Or I don't keep a spreadsheet of everything good I've watched just in case some spastic brown person demands to know my tastes.
All feelings no facts
you are like michael burman
oh look, another barely literate non-sequitur from our resident spastic ESL "trekkie."
still no list, loser
And how is further underlining your extreme mental moronation supposed to convince me to do more than laugh at you?
I accept your concession, you are not able to produce the list.
You live in baseless faith like a homosexual.
Just kys.
lol, okay ESL-tardbro
you win
nutrek is great because I don't care enough about what a shiteating moron thinks to cast pearls before him.
>60 years of optimistic Trek changed nothing in real life!
>all NuTrek must be grimdark now!
What does real life or Texas have to do with a science fiction show? Are you actually moronic?
He could be pretending, but when you're that good at pretending to be moronic, you may as well be one.
>He could be pretending
Yeah, the Texas post was a little over the top.
Texas is the most based red state, the entire USA is shackled by blue states, Texas exit would raise up some feelings of conservative progress for sure.
so does the texan secession require that the cities and greater metropolitan areas remain with the US?
Maybe Texas republic would accept some nearby territories, but the country would be divided in 4
- Texas
- Red states republic + Florida
- East Coast commies
- West Coast commies
>he thinks west texas and panhandlers would get along
Black person you're a Hispanic.
Enlighten me
wait, sorry, meant this one
Chili has beans.
Because it always reflects the current zeitgeist.
TOS was before moon landing and TNG was end of cold war.
30 years later we have not moved into trek optmism at all.
even "trek optimism" requires several devastating wars and genetic engineering.
>requires several devastating wars and genetic engineering.
The wizard did it. Literally.
Was Morn guilty of sexual misconduct?
Why is every character gay now?
Have you looked outside lately?
Because in 2012 the US passed a law making it legal for americans to create propaganda targeting americans.
No, that was never, ever illegal.
What the Smith-Mundt Act did was make it so Americans can access things made by the State Department, if they so choose. Things like Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty, or Radio Asia, which are just news services for places that can't get the truth from their local dictator.
oh shit, a glowie. for some reason I didn't think shitting all over star trek would be a state op but its pretty obvious in retrospect.
Yeah, because using google makes me a government agent.
spewing state narratives as if they're fact is what did that.
>state narratives
You do understand that you can read the law, right?
You understand that the language of law allows for very flexible interpretations, right? and those will be used?
or are we, AGAIN, back at you not being able to comprehend a world where you didn't have breakfast this morning?
From a J2/collections perspective, this board as a gold mine. From a J3/influence operations perspective, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
ZEITGEIST
RIP Nimoy and Shatner
still very much alive and kicking nuTrek ass
and Trek blackballed by israeliteRobot from the start
>translation: nobody wants to hire me for an absurd amount of money so it sucks donkey dick
I like Shatner, but let's be real about what he's talking about.
right, and everyone else is shitting all over nutrek because we aren't being paid to shill it.
No, I think people shit over Star Trek because the newer stuff is terrible and most of you have some kind of autism that sets you off when someone likes something you don't like.
I mean I'm not going to say it's good; I'm forcing myself to sit through Discovery, but these threads are just pure autism.
>make thread about thing
>NOOO YOU CAN ONLY PRAISE THING YOU'RE AUTISTIC REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
... do you get upset when people look at car accidents, train wrecks, dumpster fires, etc?
I just love to see geezers seethe
Trek was always shit
I'm sorry you had to find out this way, but you are
Any religion planets where the people aren't evil/stupid?
oxymoron
/who/gay here
I just want to say (if you guys didn't know it already) that the resident ESL troll you have here who keeps banging on about 'geezers' is a shitposter /who/ has already been stuck with for literal years. I find it kind of funny that they've moved over to you as well, but at the same time I know they're pretty fricking annoying, so you do have my sympathies.
But you guys should really be aware that this unbannable shitposter isn't worth giving a single (You) to. There's too many genuine anons ITT engaging with him.
>too many genuine anons
you mean delusional and factless?
if you can't cure stupidity, you may as well encourage it until the problem solves itself.
>until the problem solves itself.
Anon, when I say /who/ has been stuck with this homosexual for years, I really do mean years. He's not gonna frick off any time soon, and he never gets banned, so the problem isn't going to get solved unless we get a miracle
No, definitely not from what I know
that thread was glorious
he came over to /trek/ because you stopped engaging with him. solve your own problems.
He came over to /trek/ because he and a couple of even worse shitposters summarily killed /who/ stone dead months ago
Be thankful you don't get the janny-protected literally insane spammers we did.
... yeah, the janny protects him here too.
Pretty hot take for someone who has never experienced a nappy poo attack...
how squalid was it?
It's funny how blatant they get about it tbh. In fact, I'm pretty sure that every dedicated troll and spammer across the site will be friends with at least one janny on their respective board. They have to get away with it somehow.
I wasn't a namegay in the /who/ threads, if that's what you're asking
>I wasn't a namegay in the /who/ threads, if that's what you're asking
Come on, we must know you by something
Surely, he is the anonymous poster with a very sordid interest in Robert delgado's death.
I wish he would bring his wrath here
Chill
Do I know you by any name?
>he
ywnbaw
Isn't the ESL troll the same pajeet who makes the /who/ wiki?
because What You Leave Behind is the end of star trek
seethes the delusional for the nth time
Because they decided to remove the streaming licenses to force people to pay for Paramount+, and Paramount+ was a sinking ship from the get go due to releasing in to an oversaturated market. They would have made more money just letting places like netflix and amazon keep paying for streaming rights. SNW, PIC S3, PROD, and LD were all moves in the right direction, but by the time these fricks got their shit together, it was already too late.
Grower or shower what are you guys professional opinions?
NuTrek came and went. It died with Anton.
this isn't the fricking general you goddamn moron holy shit.