How was Picard perceived back then, during TNG premiere in 1987?
He seems pretty gay to me.
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How was Picard perceived back then, during TNG premiere in 1987?
He seems pretty gay to me.
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i hear tell some of the older fans didnt like him but everyone came around eventually. hes a homosexual but hes consistent so it works.
They showed Picard to have a girlfriend in Paris, but that was just case of the not-gays, him being the one with no kids was for sure coating of gayness for any French. Don't get me wrong, but the one who wanted the son to do the work to please the father was him, and him again the one who had the hottest wife. The only one with no kids was him, who had to make a plan to be happy. The one who had the girlfriend the first scene was him, with no kids again.
Wesley was his kid, dummy. He obviously had fricked bev
nice headcanon homosexual
Thank you.
He prioritized his career over family and doesn't like being around kids (both because he's annoyed by their immaturity and because they might remind him of missing out on having a family).
It took 117 posts for one guy to actually understand Picard. The guy is married to his career
To be fair the writing over an episodic series can become muddled and characters sometimes regress for no reason other than a self-contained plot thread needs it. So, in TNG we get the same theme being resolved in different ways multiple times (e.g. Picard being guarded about his personal life in various instances throughout the show and his avoidance of children having an entire episode devoted to it).
Picard sucks so I dropped it about halfway through the first season. If you enjoy it that's cool but the writing was just too dumb for me.
Akshully it's from the trauma of having seen his own mother kill herself. Didn't you watch Star Trek: Picard Season 2?
Yep.
He was a pussy but that's because he was meant to be much more diplomatic than Kirk.
It was assumed the writers haven't figured it out right away.
If you had to write a DEFINITELY NOT KIRK it would be difficult to not make him an incel wimp.
I am sure Gene wanted to have Picard as a gay man, but he was influenced by square producers and executive chuds.
My uncle that is a total homosexual, who lives in San Francisco, was saying that to me over the weekend, how his gaydar goes wild when he sees Picard. You know, he's a Trek fan too. He was talking about the new Vulcan haircut, how it made the Vulcans look like gay guys. So he said he thought Picard must be gay. I didn't even know there was a gay Star Trek convention. A bunch of geeks. Who'd have thought there'd be a gay Star Trek fan convention. But I guess that just goes to show there's a Star Trek fan out there for everybody, you know.
In my opinion there's nothing gay about Star Trek. I think it's a very heterosexual program, you know.
>gay Star Trek convention
Wait a second
Are you saying some,and only some,Star Trek fans get laid?
Bot sure if I believe this but I sure as hell ain't gunna Google it.
The question was whether there were any 'gay' conventions. I assume the OP was using the term 'gay' as synonymous with something like the word 'awesome'. It would make sense that the Star Trek con would be so awesome that someone had to invent the word 'gay' just to describe it.
But then, why would you use a word so common and everyday to describe the awesomeness of something as rare and amazing as a Star Trek convention.
>'gay' conventions
Yes, there's a whole handkerchiefs/pocket semaphore protocol
HES NOT GAY HES JUST FRENCH
Gay Trek convention... just imagine the CRUST
>just imagine the CRUST
what is that?
Heh, everyone in theater is gay
never watched star trek because it was for giga nerds, but if ever see picard clip it gives a bit gay baldy vibes
no way!
Picard and Orla Brady's character in an All In The Family type show would be kino
This world is not pure enough.
It would be like afterMASH
Except it wouldn't be forgettable.
Also maybe a Kramer lime klingon that gets beaten up by doors,cereal boxes,shaken cans of soda...
>Except it wouldn't be forgettable.
it would
>Kramer-like Klingon
A... Klinger, if you will?
so uh
why was there a statue of a frickin BATARIAN on that promethean grave world? did commander shephard extinct the population
You've got that crust ready?
Very well. Prepare my wiener for entry.
Ensign, engage.
Disliked at first, beloved by the end. Much like TNG itself. He was seen as a departure from Kirk, much more rigid and professional and less swashbuckly, with Riker obviously filling the Kirk role. It's impossible to separate Picard's reception as a character from the show he was on, which was reviled for two seasons.
Anyways, while I'm here, stinky T'Misc pussy.
T'Pol's pussy is not stinky, Vulcans have a stringent sense of hygiene and they also don't sweat because they are evolved to retain moisture on their desert planet. T'Pol's pussy smells of Vulcan roses.
There no roses on Vulcan because it’s a sun scorched desert
>There no roses on Vulcan because it’s a sun scorched desert
Desert roses are a thing.
Yes, Star Trek was always gay, since the Spirk fanfic.
Also that episode that Picard was science officer, he for sure was homosexual.
Measure of a Man is overrated.
Elab?
Picard is good, but Kirk is better. Especially when you consider the Kirk-Spock-McCoy dynamic.
That's my take now and it was my take back then
The only straight trek character
Yep. Only female sheep
same man, same
all this needs is a IYOKHBTRA caption
TOS > REST
What was up with the drones coming out of a batarian's head?
star trek
future bureaucracy run by middle managers, jetting around the galaxy in a ship furnished by office depot and making aliens file vaious forms in triplicate.
culture, music, hobbies and such based on someones israeli grandmother
saying that the first two seasons of TNG were "universally reviled" at the time is RLM revisionism
I watched it first run. People were happy to just see new Trek. Since a lot of S1 and S2 came out of the Phase 2 backlog, it didn't seem particularly bad or out of place for people used to TOS. Season 3 kicked it to a new level and the quality difference is only visible in retrospect after time and a rewatch. It's not revisionism to say S3 was perceived as better, but it was in hindsight even at the time
other revisionism I've noticed is people saying "it was almost cancelled after season 2!!!" but nothing I've read says that
1990
>>>Has anyone else noticed that Star Trek: The Next Generation has gotten
>>>much better over the last three episodes???
>>
>>Nope. I haven't.
>>
>>If we're lucky, The Next Generation will take
>>a cue from Trek Classic, and warp into cancellation at the end
>>of its third season.
>>
>
>I'm glad that "The Powers That Be" don't listen to folks like this guy. I
>happen to enjoy this show very much. It is the only thing I bother to watch
>on TV. Just because it doesn't measure up to what he thinks it should, he'd
>deny me the opportunity to watch it.
[...]
This is also the way that the real "powers that be" think, unfortunately 🙁
(Network Programmers, that is).
Fortunately, in the syndication world, you're not at the mercey of some
money driven, "mad prophet of the airwaves" (to quote Peter Finch). Even
though I am not a fan of ST:TNG, the 3 episodes I have seen are some of the
best quality television I have seen considering the constrained budget they
have to work with. I *definitely* think TNG would not have lasted beyond
1/2 season on Network TV, but independent TV stations are crying for this
type of programming, because they know that the audience they will attract
would appreciate it, instead of endless Vanna White Fashion Shows.
Why is it American network programmers (with a few exceptions) think all
of their audience have 13 year old mentalities, but British and Japanese
programmers treat their audience as they were adults.
why do you type and format your posts like someone off their meds
A mystery for the ages.
it is a repost from the 90s you moron
So is your life, geezer.
>no u
typical geezer loser homosexual
Reviled or not, I only saw the show for the first time few years back and those fist two seasons really did suck.
S7 wasn't as bad as people say, tho.
No, it's just the truth. I've literally never seen RLM in my life, and if it wasn't for this place I'd never know they existed. You moronic schizo landwhales and your discord bring them up constantly. I know you've never known a world without youtubers and sucking dicks, but youtube and open homosexuals like yourself weren't a thing back then.
Are you one of those?
One of those people who thinks you're a moronic homosexual and a subhuman who has let a gay website take a shit in his brain? Yes. Imagine how much better threads here could be without repetitive pull string meme bots like yourself around.
>muh greentext!
culled geezer confirmed
Someone get this man a hypospray.
Who are you kidding, the Space Nigerian episodes were absolutely lousy.
>the Space Nigerian episodes
They're called man I get it, they are kind of hacky in their imagery and 60s sexist, but that's because it literally is a held over TOS script. But why is it actually lousy? It is very in line with late TOS/early TNG, where the Enterprise meets with a culture with alien values and has to resolve a conflict between value systems because of a pressing externality. Literally nothing about the episode is inherently lousy in the premise and the execution is on par with comparable early season episodes.
Do I really need to be drunk to enjoy trek?
when you get 50 years old, you will like it
HAHAHAH
nothing changes
>> Besides, Mike, everyone who's read this group for more than a month
>> knows your opinion on TNG as compared to TOS -- the former can't hold a
>> candle to the latter, right? You take every opportunity to point this out,
>> and it's tedious -- if TOS was so good it can stand on its own: you're
>> not a missionary out converting the faithless.
>
TOS *was* good enough to stand on its own, for 20 years after its
"cancellation". If it hadn't survived, no TNG.
>
> Better yet, if TOS was so good, why did it get cancelled?
1. TOS didn't have the advantage of a presold audience, thanks to
a vastly superier predecessor and three successful movies.
2. TOS didn't seek the comfort and safety of syndie broadcast like TNG.
In prime time terms, TNG doesn't even break the top 50. It would
have gotten eaten after the first season.
3. In the last two years, the quality of network TV programming has
gone down a toilet, even by network TV standards. Which makes TNG
look better by comparison.
> You have GOT to be joking. TOS was such an embarrassment that I wince
>every time I see an orginal episode.
Geez, yeah, such an embarrassment that thousands of fans kept it alive
with massive letter writing campaigns, and kept the legend going for 20 years
after its cancellation. Sure, such an embarrassment that it spawned off
an entire movie series AND NG.
What an embarrassment. I wish I could claim such embarrassments on my resume.
>In fact, I have yet to meet a SINGLE
>person where I live who prefer TOS over TNG.
Where do you live, the north pole?
>TOS started with a good,
>restrained performance in the first season and went down fast.
Why is "restrained" inherently good? NG's whole problem is that it's
too restrained: the writers are afraid to take risks and the characters
are bland.
> Patrick Stewart has the grace to show a vulnerable side of a starship
>captain that William Shatner would never have allowed.
Guess you've never seen Wrath of Khan, eh?
>And the supporting
>cast of TNG have performance talents the originals could never match.
Yeah: Gates and Wheaton really turn me on.
>When you combine this with excellent writing,
Feh. If the writing is so excellent, how come most of the characters are as
interchangable as potato chips, as memorable as an overcooked egg noodle
and the show keeps delivering stuffed gobblers like BOBW2 and
FUTURE IMPERFECT?
>editing,
If you're watching TOS in syndication reruns, of course it's going to
be butchered because of the way they keep shoehorning the original show
between reams and reams of commercials.
>and special effects,
Ah - you probably thought TMP was the best Star Trek movie as well. Or
did you even see the movies?
NG's visual effects are no better than those of Space 1999 - NG's sound
effects are terminally forgettable, far inferior to TOS's - and the music...
'nuff said.
>the contest isn't even close.
You're right. And TOS wins.
>Geez
When TNG was NuTrek?
CAN WE SAVE TNG?
>I've read on the group that Paramount plans to can ST:TNG after 6 years.
Because it's too expensive and it ain't making enough money to satisfy
the Paramound execs. Well how about...
* Spending less money on expensive SFX (most of which don't
pan out anyway.) TNG tries too hard to look like a movie instead
of a TV show.
* Reducing the cast size.
I'm also tempted to say "improve quality of writing" but that has
nothing to do with how much money a show makes.
>Is this final or is the hope for the show. I mean, if it's doing well
>why can it, even for films.
Can you say 'artificial demand'. I mean the TOS movies have made big bucks ---
if Paramount can yank away the goods while the fish are still biting, then
'offer' them a movie as compensation --- hey, I smell big money here.
Remember how people crammed the theaters to see ST:TMP after 15 years
of Trek deprivation? Remember how much money it made (despite its
staggering cost and less-than-staggering quality?)
>The fact the TNG has lasted not only longer
>that TOS in terms of episodes, but also through the showing of the ST films
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ahem... TNG didn't premiere until *after* 4 out of the 5 ST Movies
had been made, shown, made lots of money and created a hot market for more
Star Trek. Care to explain this bit of revisionism?
>shows that it is stong and still gaining popularity. I know that mass
>write ins
>saved TOS from destruction for 3 years.
For 2 years, actually, but...
>Can a similar event prevent
>the premature death of one of the few decent Sci-Fi shows left now that
>BBC no longer produces Dr. Who?
A lot can happen in two seasons. For all we know, death may not be
"premature" by the end of the 6th season. And 6 years is a pretty
long life for a TV show. By then, it may well be time to move
to something better.
i agree, we should stop being so hard on nutrek, because message boards in 1989 hated tng too.
This but unironically, tastes change and when the torch is handed off to the next cohort of people, I'm content to Not Participate©™ but don't begrudge them their preferred slop vector
people don't want to be entertained, they want a flag to feel superior over another group
Historically, that flag is Best Captain
frick you, THIS FLAG is best captain
that flag sucks
My favorite captain is Sisko
NL
it's really more of a professional and parental respect than romantic love
NA
Yes very much an appreciator
were they related?
All humans share approximately 99.98% DNA due to bottlenecking to ~5000 breeding pairs after the Toba super catastrophe
anon
Not that guy, we only share 97% DNA with orangutans
forgive me. youre certainly attractive, but what youre telling me seems very unlikely.
Oh yeah? Well, MY favourite captain is Burnham, because I love noxious poison!
I was always willing to give nutrek a chance. Nutrek never took advantage of it. Discovery actually had a great aesthetic, interesting premise, and a good setup in the first few episodes, and they squandered it all. A Lorca show played straight could have been great. Instead we got Spock's secret sister and an never ending blunder.
it was doomed when season 1 only had 15 episodes.
>muh fillers
it was doomed when they tried to tell 1 story instead of 20
it was doomed when they tried to ressurect a show that had no stories to be told left
i don't think std had any of those tbh
>aesthetic
extremely generic sci-fi look that didnt fit the period
despite claiming to be prime timeline it was obviously trying to cash in on mysterybox man's movie aesthetic without asking itself why they stopped making those movies
>interesting premise
they had one when the show was still in the alpha stage and all we knew about it was that the Discovery was supposed to be a joint project between the klingons and the feds (this didnt happen and was scrapped, and the ship was redesigned to be a pizza cutting fidget spinner)
klingon vs fed war proper mightve been good if the time period was right, they werent orcs driving around junkyard ships, and we werent forced to follow along the adventures of mutineer space jesus
>good setup in the first few episodes
we are however many seasons in and basically none of the bridge crew have any personalities whatsoever apart from doug jones
The israeliteisraelite Abraham movies had disastrous consequences on the franchise because they set a new expectation (a shit one)
>less talking, more action
>action action action
>everything needs to be bigger and louder
>characters need to perform superhuman stunts
>shoehorn in a space diving/space walking scene too
>shoehorn in a space diving/space walking scene too
Oh heavens no not a space walking scene in trek, what hack fraudery is that
Frick off Black person, you knew what I meant.
Action spacewalking in Trek? HACK FRAUDS.
WHOOOSSSSHHHH BIZZ BANG POW FRICK YEAH ZOOM OH SHIT *crash*
>It was always like this!
Sorry you get easily overwhelmed by a neurotypical amount of stimuli. Once you're done rocking yourself back to baseline autist, here's a picture of how it should have gone.
Was there not enough incestuous dad-on-son rape for you?
There was not.
>neurotypical amount of stimuli
NTA but he was overwhelmed by an ADHD amount of stimuli.
tng movies were laughably bad for being dumb action movies
while worf blowing up the dish with a one-liner was kino, it is not a good example of trek
this was also an extremely dumb action setpiece
im a man of peace. my native people are enlightened, nonviolent, much like your own. im saddened that this has happened to you. if we can work together maybe we can end this conflict.
>Discovery actually had a great aesthetic
lol
>interesting premise
lol
>a good setup in the first few episodes
lol
>no arguments
lol
his lols are valid arguments, yours are not
suck his dick, troon
i have no desire to suck dick or become mentally ill
>at least 6 female love interests throughout the show
It's a mystery.
Whenever there was an episode with Picard having a female love interest was just one long eye roll. Watching him pretend to be so infatuated with her when he is so obviously gay was hard to watch. Almost as bad as his fight scenes. I still like his character tho
Many long time Trekkers did not participate
Vulcan pussy vs Andorian pussy
Dry vs Frigid
Twi'lek pussy
gotta say I would prefer the cold pillow temp vs sandpaper cooch. also you dont have to contend with the dead fish who would probably break your hips
Mfw geezers eat poop itt
>hes a homosexual
picard is a chad, unironically.
Looking back, was he right?
Sure but you don't have to like every color equally. I think orange is an ugly color, it's just as heckin' valid as any other, but I prefer others.
Orange isn’t a real color
You're thinking of ~~*magenta*~~
they mixed every color for std and stp and got gray and brown
Star trek TNG:
S3 > 5 > 6 > 2 > 4 > 7 >>> S1
the UT isnt working, sir
I feel like this applies to a lot of people.
>nutrek gay argues against a strawman
sounds about right
I don’t think Picard is fit for command. He’s a man without a family, both in terms of no wife/children and also estrangement from his birth family. He obviously has crippling interpersonal flaws and commitment issues. He is unable to effectively fraternize with his crew, resulting in workplace tensions and a lack of morale. Most alarming of all is that his greatest fear is being an officer without status and power, suggesting that his motivation to be captain is based on vanity. Such a man is dangerous when given power over others. Picard is a fraud.
shut the frick up wesley
>Shut your frick up, c**t
It works.
What happened to the /trek/ general? It used to be a daily thing a while back.
seven years of concentrated shill attacks finally killed it.
I'm hoping for the return of /trek/. I have the memes ready.
i mean i always assumed any thread with trek in the header is the defacto /trek/ general
there's still a couple fresh in the archive so it's not like it's dead, we just made an informal thread again (hopefully free of certain undesirables for the time being)
Why do people keep insisting that Season 1 is bad?
>Where No One Has Gone Before
>Lonely Among Us
>The Battle
>Hide and Q
>The Big Goodbye
>Datalore
>Too Short a Season
>Home Soil
>Coming of Age
>Heart of Glory
>The Arsenal of Freedom
>Symbiois
>Skin of Evil
>We'll Always Have Paris
>Conspiracy
>The Neutral Zone
All absolute kino episodes
beardless riker is cursed
Riker9
>hopefully free of certain undesirables for the time being!!!!! *cries and soils self*
Anyway, in actual Trek news, based Kurtzman on what shorter seasons mean for increased quality and less filler.
https://trekmovie.com/2024/04/17/alex-kurtzman-on-streaming-tv-challenges-and-how-shorter-star-trek-seasons-helps-avoid-filler-episodes/
I *hope* you get paid, because if you're doing this for free...
Btw, the recent Harper's article highlights how increasingly short-term gigs (among other things) are contributing to the destruction of the screenwriting profession. Since I have zero sympathy for the current (possibly last) generation of Hollywood "writers", that doesn't bother me, but you should know that you're basically cheering on the demise of your beloved purple-haired lesbians, blacks etc. Shorter seasons = reduced pay = screenwriting becoming a rich person's hobby. Of course, that'll be of no concern to Kurtzman.
>increasingly short-term gigs
they're called minis
Christ, these zombie /trek/ threads are bleak. Just nutrek shills bludgeoning away with their press-release BS and their non-medy until everyone else gives up. Is there even a person in there? I brought up a rare mainstream article that (while it doesn't address the woke elephant in the room) is actually an interesting read, and might cause you to reconsider blindly following the Kurtzman party line *just for once*, but no, can't have that, can we?
>but no, can't have that, can we?
Wa wa wa boring gif from some nutrek presumably don't care. The only thing worth noting: you lot are all representation this and diversity that, but when the multimillionaire israelite in charge of your shows advocates for a policy which is demonstrably harmful to Hollywood writers generally and (at least if you believe the narrative) minority writers in particular, well, suddenly you're deflecting with your non-medy and your gifs. Shows just how much you care about all that stuff: not at all. Worth remembering the next time one of you blabs on about some fierce black woman putting chuds to shame or whatever.
>which is demonstrably harmful to Hollywood writers generally
So what?
So you don't care about the people in your newly diverse writing rooms being bled dry, to the extent that, if nothing changes, they'll soon no longer be diverse? Sure, *I* don't care, but if you like nutrek, I imagine you like the representation and whatnot in nutrek, so surely you ought to care. Seems like a bit of a contradiction if not. Either you like/care about blacks, women etc in your media, or you don't.
>So you don't care about the people in your newly diverse writing rooms being bled dry, to the extent that, if nothing changes, they'll soon no longer be diverse?
And because Cinemaphile doesn't have IDs, you get to pretend you weren't nutrek-trolling earlier. I don't believe you. I *do* believe you don't actually give a frick about diversity. Can't prove it, of course, but you know and I know that you're a guy who doesn't care about diversity shilling a show that's all about fricking diversity. What do you get out of it? As I said earlier, I *hope* you get paid.
K
Nu-trek really killed these threads.
Oldgays are gone, newbies dont understand the hate oldgays have for nu-trek.
And a shitload of trolls who shit up every thread.
I think they do understand, because there's no substance to nutrek besides "Frick you, oldgay/straight white man/Drumpf/Dad/whatever". If there were they'd be able to talk about the content of any episode in any detail, and without sounding like AI. And we'd see them have actual discussions among themselves about it. But, yeah.
What’s crazy to me is the Fallout series is so good and it’s a fricking Amazon show. It proves an existing IP with a complicated backstory can get a new series more interesting than the multiple nutrek shows getting cancelled after their fourth seasons. All those seasons have cost over a billion and a half to produce, and what do they have to show for it?
Imagine if they’d given that billion and a half to a team with actual talent and passion for Trek.
This is the worst timeline, at least the only people who still watch nutrek are brain damaged morons trapped in a hell they choose to never leave. I consider most of the dumb c**ts who post here to be subhuman garbage, too.
>most of the dumb c**ts who post here
they're called minis
TOTAL TREK DEATH
I honestly dont understand how TNG wasnt cancelled after it's first season, i always skip the first season over how boring it is.
Hell, the later seasons are boring as frick too outside of a few episodes.
people liked TOS enough to demand it come back on air, and s1-2 of TNG was basically still TOS only with a coat of paint over it
Frick that. Season One is based
Season one puts me to sleep every time i watch it.
>recently rewatched the episode of star trek enterprise where trip gets impregnated.
>trip having mood swings
>archer trying to keep in his laughter
>the general vibe was that it was a funny episode.
You could not do that episode today without people losing their shit over it.
i hated the whole idea of TNG and was sure it was never going to work
that show and that cast eventually succeeded because they made their own magic, instead of trying to recreate the magic of TOS
still mostly hate the TNG movies though
My first complete watch-through of Voyager is nearly at an end, lads. Just finished the episode featuring this hotness.
>less episodes means less filler!
>STD is already trying to stretch out the treasure hunt plot with filler
Discovery status
>CANCELLED (with less eps than tos)
Picard status
>ENDED (nostalgia bux over)
Prodigy status
>CANCELLED (no one noticed)
Strange New Worlds status
>LOOMING CANCELLATION (paramount barely hanging on)
Lower Decks status
>CANCELLED (and we at /trek/ are laughing)
Section 31 series
>TRASHED (1 episode "movie")
Planned Projects
>SHELVED (good riddance)
Paramount
>BANKRUPT (seeking buyers)
Starfleet academy is still happening
I want to have sex with her!!!!!
Congratulations. you are heterosexual
How is decks after pic?
Enterprise is the only one that exists in every continuity.
Timeline flowcharts are for absolute homosexuals who need all their bingbingwahoos to line up and can't just accept that they're different productions made by writers and showrunners with different interests.
>Noooooo Tenchi in Tokyo was a splinter reality from when Magical Girl Sammy went back in time to erase the Tenchi OVA reality and leave Tenchi Universe as the prime reality because Washu was too powerful and—ACK!
Tenchi in Tokyo was trash. Tenchi Universe already dealt with split timelines internally and it was kino.
sounds like nutrek slop I don't care about, cope and seethe
Then we agree: nutrek is slop.
It has good parts, but it's drowned in a sea of shiT.
>It has good parts
Oh, so we don't agree? Funny that. It's almost as if you're a nutrek troll who - again, benefitting from the lack of IDs - will go as far as trashing nutrek temporarily just to "one-up" another poster who obviously hates it. But who knows? But if you think nutrek offers anything significant of merit at all, you're the one coping, my friend.
this one deserved a song
https://suno.com/song/14bd4c54-96cd-4464-ae92-4200cdb31bb6
Worse than slop. Slop, at least, is the generally entertaining but substanceless feed poured into a trough for all the usual barn animals to eat. nutrek is contaminated feed made by people who want the animals to die.
>It has good parts
No, it doesn't.
>No, it doesn't.
i liked some parts of lower decks and prodigy.
Frick picard and std.
>. nutrek is contaminated feed made by people who want the animals to die.
that's some Michael Burnham tier histrionic drama queening you're doing there. Keep it up, let your homosexualry flow and be the drag queen you were meant to be.
case in point this utter garbage post does more to prove my assertion than deny it
>the interests of the writers
Those things you don't care about, because otherwise you'd condemn Kurtzman for imposing short seasons on them? 😉
Let me guess, you don't like ENT's intro?
TOS and TNG have multiple time travel episodes
No Tawny no watchy
Trek fans hated TNG when it first came out.
Nu Trek is not canon. It is apocryphal.
The only way to go was to make the opposite of Kirk. It's brilliant.
anyone have that youtube link of the giant deanna holodeck coomer copypasta?
Fat Frakes
Why is Picard fond of groundskeeper Willy at the academy? Is it a weird relationship for a young cadet?
In the Star Trek universe, people who work the land are the wisest of all. Farmers and gardeners are literally the pinnacle of humanity.
>people who work the land are the wisest of all.
They're called terraformers
Geezers inhale poop particles on purpose and with gusto. Geezers put hookah hoses up Trois ass and fight over the fumes
Wasn't DS9 also hated at first?
Still is. The people who say they like it itt are dedicated trolls
Your dad raped you so hard you became moronic. DS9 is kino. It's not without it's flaws and it's arguable its pushing of the boundaries of emotional conflict allowed the herniation that is CW-tier STD weepy screaming. But it's kino nonetheless.
You need medical treatment for schizophrenia
Oh my