Very Short Treks is actually funny (very reminiscent of older Adult Swim), It’s just Trekkies have a really shit sense of humor and view anybody pointing fun at the franchise with scorn.
Plus It was even written by a guy who worked on Sealab 2021 and Aqua Teen. I’d take that kind of humor over the shit that demonizes men on a daily basis
>Lower Decks deserve more respect
Rick and Morty painted in Star Fleet apparel, so no
It’s because there isn’t anything in trek to grab onto it’s like a grab bag of desperate producers green light everything that was remotely popular 5 years ago EXCEPT quality Star Trek in a vain attempt to make a hit.
Shut the up you fricking homosexual. Calling out the shitty writing crutches of shitty writers is not "making a federal fricking issue", and the fact that you think it does only demonstrates what a wretched little shill you are.
Same for the Harley Quinn show or Evil Superman content like the Boys or Invincible. Superman fans would be less offended by their existence if there was actually a good Superman movie or TV franchise in existence right now.
The Boys comic predates the MCU entirely. Its making fun of a completely different era of comics, and honestly not even with any particular criticism. Its just "Hey, wouldn't it be fricked up if Professor X was actually a pedophile?" And then he gets beaten to death with baseball bats. Repeat this 'joke' 20 more times for other characters.
The Boys show isn't about DC or Marvel at all, its an extremely thinly veiled metaphor for how rich celebrities are allowed to get away with anything simply by virtue of their status as celebrities.
>Its making fun of a completely different era of comics
It literally referred to big superhero even comics where all the heroes team up to fight a bad guy as an orgy. It's pretty obvious what Ennis was trying to say about Superhero comics of that time.
>Why is it okay for Sealab 2021, SGCtC, Harvey Birdman to do this but not this?
Trekkies don’t watch anything that isn’t Star Trek, not even other sci-fi properties.
>If you can’t tell that Star Trek has a different tone than fricking Sealab 2021, you need your fricking head examined.
This is the same shitty argument Classic Spongebob fans use when regarding the new episodes being too “wacky” and less slice of life. I doubt the original Space Ghost cartoon from the sixties had the same tone as the Coast to Coast.
Unironically who the frick owns the Star Trek franchise right now, because it feels like they have zero fricking clue why people liked it in the first place. This is like if the people making Dr. Who suddenly started making all kinds of series where the Doctor ran around gunning people down and having sex with Daleks.
Here is the problem, and its not just with Star Trek. This is happening with a majority of american IP right now:
The IP is owned by the same people that are in charge of the means to produce it.
This may not sound like a big deal, but it is. On paper, they make more money from a show that uses an IP they don't have to pay anyone else for as opposed to one where they have to cut some creator a check. It fundamentally changes the math from "Is this property worth making a show out of?" to "How do we sell a show of this thing we own? Is it not popular enough? *What changes can we make to make it profitable?*"
Ultimately this ends up as them not really caring whether the show is good or faithful to its material in any respect, just that it gets made. Throw any writer you have on the project and wait for the money to roll in.
Meanwhile, Hollywood writers are a bunch of people who have had their souls CRUSHED by the studio gig economy. They got into this job to tell stories they wanted to tell, but its been 35 years in the industry and they have never once had a meeting where they ever had a chance to pitch an idea to someone who mattered, and they have realized that they never will. No one wants to make a new show, certainly their new show. They will only ever be told to resurrect someone else's ancient IP for the 6th time, because IP you already own is better than something new.
So you end up with writers that really want to be telling their own stories int heir own settings being forced to play with someone else's toys for their whole careers. And you know what? Eventually they realize that they CAN tell their own stories in their own settings, they just have to hide it under an existing brand. Which is how you get Star Trek Discovery: just make up your own scifi setting, as long as you call the aliens 'Klingons' and the good guys 'The Federation' you can change whatever else you want and you'll still get it greenlit, because no one above you cares.
I understand where ya'll are coming from, but I laughed. The performances were funny; Dana Synder is prefect for this style. It's okay for a franchise to poke fun at itself sometimes. That being said, I'm aware Star Trek is a garbage fire right now.
>Do people in charge of this franchise just fricking hate it?
Yes, how is that not clear yet?
Take the production people who made discovery (STD)
Before the show launched they were so proud to anounce in the media that they would have the first female captain in star trek, unironically they actually believed that.
None of these people ever watched previous star trek, how could you ever forget about captain "frick starfleet&the borg" janeway?
For the last time anon YES, they hate it and they hate you. EVERY Hollywood writer hates what they work on and whose watched it for however long the franchise has been a thing, I’d have respect for them if they weren’t so smug about being propagandists these days
These are made by the guy who did Too Many Cooks who started on Harvey Birdman. He's doing the same thing for the H-B Trek that they did for Birdman, Space Ghost and Sealab 2020. It's cool that they're doing this and you reactionary morons don't deserve cool shit.
Lower Decks shows more respect
Very Short Treks is actually funny (very reminiscent of older Adult Swim), It’s just Trekkies have a really shit sense of humor and view anybody pointing fun at the franchise with scorn.
Plus It was even written by a guy who worked on Sealab 2021 and Aqua Teen. I’d take that kind of humor over the shit that demonizes men on a daily basis
>Lower Decks deserve more respect
Rick and Morty painted in Star Fleet apparel, so no
It’s because there isn’t anything in trek to grab onto it’s like a grab bag of desperate producers green light everything that was remotely popular 5 years ago EXCEPT quality Star Trek in a vain attempt to make a hit.
Nice bait.
They're hateful, nasty people who think
>DUDE GORE
counts as a joke.
Mr Enter has made an entire internet career on calling these sorts of people out.
Maybe you can just let a joke not land with you without having a temper tantrum and making a federal fricking issue with it
Shut the up you fricking homosexual. Calling out the shitty writing crutches of shitty writers is not "making a federal fricking issue", and the fact that you think it does only demonstrates what a wretched little shill you are.
Who is this made for?
People who like gross out humor
People who hate Star Trek.
>People who hate Star Trek.
People who hate Star Trek can't leave. They have to stay longer.
The Rick and Morty crowd
Why is it okay for Sealab 2021, SGCtC, Harvey Birdman to do this but not this?
because nobody cares about those shows before the new version
It would be different if this was being put out while a good and faithful Star Trek series was being released.
Same for the Harley Quinn show or Evil Superman content like the Boys or Invincible. Superman fans would be less offended by their existence if there was actually a good Superman movie or TV franchise in existence right now.
The Boys lampoons the MCU & DCU moreso than Superman specifically.
The Boys comic predates the MCU entirely. Its making fun of a completely different era of comics, and honestly not even with any particular criticism. Its just "Hey, wouldn't it be fricked up if Professor X was actually a pedophile?" And then he gets beaten to death with baseball bats. Repeat this 'joke' 20 more times for other characters.
The Boys show isn't about DC or Marvel at all, its an extremely thinly veiled metaphor for how rich celebrities are allowed to get away with anything simply by virtue of their status as celebrities.
>Its making fun of a completely different era of comics
It literally referred to big superhero even comics where all the heroes team up to fight a bad guy as an orgy. It's pretty obvious what Ennis was trying to say about Superhero comics of that time.
>Why is it okay for Sealab 2021, SGCtC, Harvey Birdman to do this but not this?
Trekkies don’t watch anything that isn’t Star Trek, not even other sci-fi properties.
If you can’t tell that Star Trek has a different tone than fricking Sealab 2021, you need your fricking head examined.
>If you can’t tell that Star Trek has a different tone than fricking Sealab 2021, you need your fricking head examined.
This is the same shitty argument Classic Spongebob fans use when regarding the new episodes being too “wacky” and less slice of life. I doubt the original Space Ghost cartoon from the sixties had the same tone as the Coast to Coast.
Lower Decks is the Rick and Morty one
Unironically who the frick owns the Star Trek franchise right now, because it feels like they have zero fricking clue why people liked it in the first place. This is like if the people making Dr. Who suddenly started making all kinds of series where the Doctor ran around gunning people down and having sex with Daleks.
Somehow The Orville appears to be the closest to Star Trek proper and that's meant to be a 'parody.'
It completely dropped the parody thing after season two.
Because Orville was made by people that actually liked the old Star Trek.
Here is the problem, and its not just with Star Trek. This is happening with a majority of american IP right now:
The IP is owned by the same people that are in charge of the means to produce it.
This may not sound like a big deal, but it is. On paper, they make more money from a show that uses an IP they don't have to pay anyone else for as opposed to one where they have to cut some creator a check. It fundamentally changes the math from "Is this property worth making a show out of?" to "How do we sell a show of this thing we own? Is it not popular enough? *What changes can we make to make it profitable?*"
Ultimately this ends up as them not really caring whether the show is good or faithful to its material in any respect, just that it gets made. Throw any writer you have on the project and wait for the money to roll in.
Meanwhile, Hollywood writers are a bunch of people who have had their souls CRUSHED by the studio gig economy. They got into this job to tell stories they wanted to tell, but its been 35 years in the industry and they have never once had a meeting where they ever had a chance to pitch an idea to someone who mattered, and they have realized that they never will. No one wants to make a new show, certainly their new show. They will only ever be told to resurrect someone else's ancient IP for the 6th time, because IP you already own is better than something new.
So you end up with writers that really want to be telling their own stories int heir own settings being forced to play with someone else's toys for their whole careers. And you know what? Eventually they realize that they CAN tell their own stories in their own settings, they just have to hide it under an existing brand. Which is how you get Star Trek Discovery: just make up your own scifi setting, as long as you call the aliens 'Klingons' and the good guys 'The Federation' you can change whatever else you want and you'll still get it greenlit, because no one above you cares.
Are you saying the writers want to fill their shows with gays and trannies?
Did you think it was somehow happening by accident?
No, it's very clearly a corporate oder.
>implying executives care about agendas over money
If they had any clue, it would've been stopped in its tracks
They get paid for it.
>trekkies malding
DS9 was the last good thing to happen with the series and will be so until the IP dies for good.
I understand where ya'll are coming from, but I laughed. The performances were funny; Dana Synder is prefect for this style. It's okay for a franchise to poke fun at itself sometimes. That being said, I'm aware Star Trek is a garbage fire right now.
Why would anyone want to make this? Who would allow it to happen?
Yeah okay but
>Do people in charge of this franchise just fricking hate it?
Yes, how is that not clear yet?
Take the production people who made discovery (STD)
Before the show launched they were so proud to anounce in the media that they would have the first female captain in star trek, unironically they actually believed that.
None of these people ever watched previous star trek, how could you ever forget about captain "frick starfleet&the borg" janeway?
For the last time anon YES, they hate it and they hate you. EVERY Hollywood writer hates what they work on and whose watched it for however long the franchise has been a thing, I’d have respect for them if they weren’t so smug about being propagandists these days
These are made by the guy who did Too Many Cooks who started on Harvey Birdman. He's doing the same thing for the H-B Trek that they did for Birdman, Space Ghost and Sealab 2020. It's cool that they're doing this and you reactionary morons don't deserve cool shit.