>“We didn’t know [Season 5 would be the end]. We finished shooting in November of [2022] and then found out around the New Year — and we can’t say enough of our gratitude to CBS Studios and Paramount Plus for giving us the opportunity to go back and shoot some additional days, because we felt like we really then got to wrap up the series. Season 5 will feel like a satisfying journey.
>Then, we were able to kind of do a little bit extra to wrap up the show as a whole, and we’re so grateful for that. So when we got to go back and shoot that material we knew going in that those few days were going be the last days — and it was kind of cool, because we got to go in knowing that and really just appreciate being there; appreciate being with one another.
>We got to say goodbye on the sets, which was just a really special and bittersweet thing. So it was wonderful to get to do that.”
https://blog.trekcore.com/2024/03/michelle-paradise-star-trek-discoverys-cancellation-additional-filming/
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Ditto
>It's.... CANCELLED! *cries*
Oh well. Anyway, STD wins one more World Trekkord, it's not just the series with the most production hours, but Discovery is also the Star Trek series with the most tonnage of craft services, thanks to Trekord breaker Mary Wiseman. See you in the upcoming series, Starfleet Academy, Mary!
there shouldn't be any fat people in the ST universe, people have self control and are emotionally well-adjusted. And if it's a genetic thing, there's a cure for that too.
that's why the forced the cripple on SNW
Should have killed it sooner.
>this show has been going for 7 years
Who watches it? Even among thd absolute consoomer nerds I know nobody brought this up.
During S3 it leaked that the average views per episode were in the low thousands. I can only imagine how much lower it got in S4 and S5.
I’d mention the same points but people would just say, “well if it’s so bad why do they keep making more!”
Nutrek has lower ratings than Enterprise
Everything has lower ratings than 2005 because of the increase in options and anytime streaming, there's no such thing as event TV anymore.
>event tv
interesting that no one is trying to bring it back. for example if the upcoming section 31 special episode was only going to air once on CBS and not available to stream for months, wouldnt people make a point of tuning in?
>wouldnt people make a point of tuning in?
No. Asking a young person to "tune in" would be like someone asking you to catch an audio drama on AM radio.
The ratings thing was always a distraction anyway. Tens of millions could have been watching it - it wouldn't change the fact that it's utter shit. It's because it's so glaringly inferior to actual Trek that its shills/defenders so often resorted to "It was in the top 10 downloaded shows on X during Y!" etc. As opposed to, say, defending it on the basis of interesting ideas or moral dilemmas it brought up. Because there were none.
Yesterday I couldn't get the shill to tell me which episodes of STD he thought would become classics that people would remember for decades. He just kept saying "umm, TNG BAD!".
>During S3 it leaked that the average views per episode were in the low thousands.
JFC I bet TOS and TNG reruns on Z-tier basic cable and satalite channels pull more than that. Hell, i bet TOS, TNG, and DS9 are absolutely mogging it on P+ as well.
I don’t remember when I dropped off, they got sent into distant future and some space whale, I just noped out, I was pretty exhausted from end of the Spock psycho season so jumping off was pretty easy
>During S3 it leaked that the average views per episode were in the low thousands. I can only imagine how much lower it got in S4 and S5.
That is "struggling Youtube channel" tier.
CBS-Paramount saw this and other Trek series as "an investment" where they thoug they had to spend billions in series no one saw just to build up the userbase. They spent the billions but not the userbase. The only chance to be seen will be when it shows up on Hulu, Netflix and Amazon one day.
When certain agendas are being pushed in shows they are given quite a bit longer time on life support. I've never watched this show but just seeing the MC is all i need to know. Also, isnt this the one that has that gaptoothed nigress democrat as the president of earth?
Nobody anymore. It was a proof of concept to prove that Star Trek is still viable and can sell merchandise.
People watched it, then they left for better shows. Now it's dead. Hopefully they can use the money for something better.
No one
companies are just too arrogant to pull funding until they HAVE to. It could have been doing shit for years but some other series was probably pulling the weight so the company saw it as a long term investment.
no one watches anything nowadays grampa
only tik tok
everything else is as disposable as the next
Hey its me, guy who suffered through it all. the answer is as expected, there was a small really rabid fanbase that would absorb any star trek media and held onto it.
Season 3 was the last time the show had any production quality and started off by saying the Federation that all of your favorite captains worked to protect is dead and vanished in the future showning humanities struggles didnt matter because they all died to one of Sarus (giant fish man) peoples kid getting stuck in a dilithium cluster then shouting out a moronic yell when it finds its dead mom someone resonating wiht all of the dilithium in the galaxy and blowing up all the ships, now it lives in an AI generated world that takes care of its moronic ass.
The next season was filmed during covid and everyone got uglier and fatter, they filmed it all on a greenscreen that they never once measured or organized backgrounds correctly. one episode Michelle Yeohs character (who is a murderous genocider from another timeline who they let hang out with them for no reason at all despite showing leathel force against anyone who mildly slights them) gets contacted by TOS Supervisor who throws her through a portal back in time so they can do the section 31 show but no one else can come with her for reasons. also Stacy Abrams fat loser ass shows up as a queen of earth and they have to convince her to join the new federation. also the gay guys adopt a mentally ill kid whose trill girlfriend dies so they put the symbiote inside of themselves and have visions of their girlfriend. they are also non-binary because of course they are.
Everyone left for strange new worlds which is a huge piece of shit as well and in the first like 5 episode spock bangs 3 women and the Captain Pike uses videos from Jan 6th to explain to a civilization that we were once at war with one another and they can change. entire show feels like it was written by awful modern writers that got quick cliffnotes on ToS
"Kid born on dilithium planet is in tune with it psychically so when he feels grief, all dilithium in all four quadrants of the galaxy also feels it simultaneously and explodes" was when it finally lost me.
That's some post-2005 Doctor Who shit, not Star Trek.
BURN > FLOOX
>chinballs destroys half the universe and then just leaves it dangling
>russell gay davies feels compelled to continue this plot instead of memoryholing it
as if Q could not do the same
very un trek
it annoys me because they couldnt just go into the future or to another unexplored area and do their own thing. they HAVE to be the first of the new federation and they didnt even learn anything about the past captains or what they represented. it just became a "fine we will get out of the main timeline but everything before us died in THE BURN and we are now making our own starfleet with out own rules and we are better and more edgier".
Also Strange New Worlds is doing the exact same thing and it annoys me, but less of killing Starfleet more of "Im pike i know my future and i am going to be given a much larger role in how Spock and Kirk met" and they also needlessly give backstories to all of these old characters as if they are, as i mention above, looking to reboot ToS and make it their own. also who the frick is going to care about the Section 31 movie written by these hacks?
It's even more insidious because from what I gathered from S3, the Federation was already turning to shit some time after the 24th century (it takes place in the 32nd), and they hadn't been contacted by the Q or the other godlike beings in "hundreds of years".
which is funny because of how it contradicts ENT, which shows that in Daniels' time (31st century) the Federation encompasses the majority of the galaxy and was thriving
But then STD I guess was skimming Memory Alpha and they put in that the Feds had actually been crippled by the temporal cold war, stagnation, there hadn't been any real exploration in a long time, and members were leaving left and right. And this was before subspace got destroyed.
I'm not sure which shit all over the Star Trek universe more; Picard with its penchant for subjecting iconic characters to misery porn, or Discovery for saying nothing matters because it'll all collapse one day.
emotion based sci-fi seems very fitting for the writers of the current year. like how a lot of 60s sci-fi is obsessed with telekinesis and psy powers etc.
when there is no wars, the wars are battled within while we explore sexuality
it's lame and you can tell women wrote it
I mostly read the cliff notes on S4 but there's a moment that pisses me off too; they said that in 900 years, no Federation ship ever attempted to leave the galaxy since Kirk's Enterprise did in WNMHGB.
So they just never advanced that far?
It's also said many times that the Feds became stagnant and complacent well before the bhuuurrrnnn ruined everything.
we know by current physics that we will never travel to the stars, so we should just frick each other
> Bro your civilization is so stagnant and complacent
>Who cares about zero-point energy and maker machines, without lesbians you'll never survive
well put - that sums it up entirely.
streaming model is all about generating content at any cost in the hope the platform will become profitable at some point.
instead of filming tons of bland fillers to waste my time
but anon, that's all they're doing. except people aren't even watching it. the most streamed shows are old sitcoms.
I think that does not matter anymore, we reached full apex of fiction. It is bad but generates hate content, instead of being good and promptly forgotten like the last ghostbusters.
yes, they're measuring ratings now by how much astroturf something gets.
Star Trek ended in 2005.
/thread
Gul Dukat was a fire hazard
> lasted longer than Enterprise
trekbros, we lost
>98 episodes vs. a measly 65
ENTchads stay winning, always.
Jesus what happened to the MC? She was cute at the start.
Unpopular opinion, but Discovery actually had a great aesthetic and concept in the first few episodes. Making Burnham Spock's secret sister was really stupid and never necessary, just connection for its own sake, but the show had a lot of good things going for it. The overall look of the Shenzhou, the away team body armor, all that was great. Jason Isaacs was a great cast and Landry was an interesting character. The initial feel of being on the USS Discovery was great, the armed guards, the black badges, that first scene with Tilly "Wait, you weren't briefed?...Then I can't tell you." and immediately shutting down after being so friendly. There was a really interesting show to be made here.
But they killed everything. Isaacs could have been a Sisko style character but they decided he was from the mirror universe despite not really doing anything evil before that, he was just a man trying to win a war. The secrecy and mystery was gone almost immediately. Landry was killed off. The aesthetic got worse and worse, from terrible new uniforms to Burnham's ridiculous hair to Tilly getting fat. They took the dumbest idea they had - Spock's secret sister - and leaned into it for an entire season.
Just a lot of squandered potential. A competent showrunner could have taken that first episode and really done something with it.
>duuude the secrecy
>duuude the JJ Abrams aesthetic except with the lights turned off was kino!
the whole show was shit from timestamp 0:00:00 of the pilot
Yeah. Star Trek will never be comfy again. It’s gonna look like generic sci-fi from here until the end. Frick nutrek and frick Trekkies
I tuned in because we were getting movie tier sfx on a weekly star trek show.
It’s bad enough that everything just revolves around Burnham and zero focus on the rest of the bridge crew.
>black surfer dude
>cyborg girl
>another asian guy
>Owowowochekun
>the other pilot
And I don’t really care about the gay doctors and their non binary child
cant even imagine being impressed by modern computer effects. go back to models and ill consider watching
Klingons had phasers too.
false
A Klingon phaser was used to seal the operating room closet door in The Voyage Home.
disruptor
Nope.
Klingon phasers also existed in the original series episode Errand of Mercy.
interesting is that Klingon weapons aren't firmly established in dialogue as disruptors until Redemption; however, I believe that non-televised material was referring to them as disruptors since at least TSFS, I will have to investigate further
You forgot the constant crying.
>You forgot the constant crying.
Really good post just wanted to say that because its rare to see a reasonable and cogent coherently arranged post on Cinemaphile.
You used too many adjectives there in an attempt to project intelligence.
Too much cocoa butter, imagine the smell on set every day.
Black women are the most attractive women on earth
No, frick off you pleb. That shit was never Star Trek
>Just a lot of squandered potential. A competent showrunner could have taken that first episode and really done something with it.
It was solely the Michael Burnham show that is why every major character/plot that could have been expanded on was nixed.
Now Shaneequa is free to have sex with me
Whole show was a mistake. Looked nothing like the era it was suppose to be in. Then they made the main character related to a classic character in the most moronic way. They ripped off the concept for the spore shit unapologetically from others. Then they institute an in universe cover up to explain why nobody ever heard of this shit before. And then they throw the ship a thousand years in the future so its stops fricking with canon
Entire thing felt like the writers were just making shit up as they went along. I'm glad it will be gone
>ctrl+f "trek"
>4 results
>it's always one of these shit ass c**t fricking nutrek shill threads
The last good Trek show was 30 years ago, the last good episode of Trek was more than 20 years ago. I love old Trek and really hate new Trek, but how many times can you really discuss the same unchanging content? There's just nothing to discuss here, and the sort of in-depth in-universe discussions that appeal to me and most higher IQ Trek fans aren't really possible here. If you try to discuss the reason the UFP uses Phasers when everyone else prefers Disruptors (except the Cardassians, who are the only power seen to mix the two) you'll just get someone posting the cartoon, or someone trying to speculate as to why Andorian and Romulan pussy smells like.
Watching trek die has been sad. But necessary.
We've learned some hard lessons.
I feel you, man. Wish I could offer some consolation, but there it is. If you could use something to raise your spirits, and you haven't seen it yet, you could check out this thing what I made fairly recently: https://youtu.be/97Cpx1DKKAE
Nowt else I can do. Star Trek is dead. Oh well.
I know people go "ummm but the cartoon is the best thing made since [arbitrary cutoff point]" and I admit it has made me chuckle once or twice when I wasn't cringing, but the people who post it are some of the worst, most annoying, most insufferable fricking people I've seen on Cinemaphile and I mean it, even Sarah Gadon poster doesn't come close
You shouldn't say her name if you want people to read your post, lots of people created a filter for her.
Agreed.
Some of the best shows of all time are heavily serialized, but one of the downsides is that no single episode can stand out and be great in a terrible season. Before, you could have a terrible episode, and then a great one right after, and because it's all self contained stories with only minor continuity flowing from one to the next the shit didn't stain the gold. But that can't happen in a show like Discovery, where one bad episode spoils everything because the concepts and characterizations get carried forward forever.
The beauty of episodic sci-fi series like Star Trek and X-Files is that the plot could be anything. And a stinker storyline was over and done with in 45 minutes. Serialized shows have to follow the same handful of storylines for minimum 8 episodes. No matter how boring or poorly executed they are
Not just episodes, but characters as well. Even people who haven't watched a single episode of Star Trek can identify the most popular characters of the 60s-90s. Even people who don't follow television at least know who Captains Kirk and Picard are. Who plays them, theit catchphrases, etc. Who can name a single nutrek character?
Trek is fundamentally old media. Tablet kids literally don't watch shows and movies, they watch 30 second ADHD clips and youtubers. The entire idea of the media you grew up with is going to die, not just the franchises.
>Who can name a single nutrek character?
Pike is Captain cool work dad.
Sir let's settle our feud over mint juleps and the lobbing of epithets.
>32nd century Fed couldn't fix the nog's crooked teeth.
black Frankie Macdonald
>or someone trying to speculate as to why Andorian and Romulan pussy smells like.
OK, but can we get a definitive answer to this?
>Andorian Women
Given Andoria's icy, harsh environment, Andorians would have evolved to minimize energy expenditure and retain heat. Their bodies might produce oils or secretions that offer protection against the cold, similar to some Earth animals that secrete oils for insulation. This could result in a natural scent that is faint, possibly with clean or slightly metallic notes reflecting the mineral-rich environments of their home world. Their reduced need for sweating due to the cold climate might also mean their natural scent is less pronounced than that of species from warmer climates.
>Romulan Women
Romulans, originating from a temperate climate with rich biodiversity, might have a more noticeable natural scent. The warmer climate of Romulus suggests a physiology that manages heat through sweating, potentially leading to a stronger natural odor. Considering their diet, which likely includes a variety of plants and animals from their planet, their natural scent could have earthy or herbal undertones. Moreover, their shared ancestry with Vulcans, who have a copper-based blood (leading to greenish blood color), could impart a slight metallic hint to their natural scent, distinct from the iron-based blood scent of humans.
>Conclusion
Romulan women are both sneaky AND stinky.
Correct
watermelon and cinnamon
frozen watermelon and cinnamon
>If you try to discuss the reason the UFP uses Phasers when everyone else prefers Disruptors
This isn’t interesting though. Like who gives a frick?
Imagine if they'd gone with an anthology series like they'd originally planned. A show focused on stories rather than the character drama and pew-pew shit.
Can /trek/ be cancelled too?
>Season 5
they made five fricking seasons of this vomit?
Time to add another hundred million to pile of cash Paramount has burned on nuTrek.
i have a feeling they keep making it because its mandated by their contracts with walmart tmobile and such
Damning.
they also lost millions when they pulled everything back from netflix and amazon is a hail mary attempt to get people to remember P+ exists
That's another thing. P+ interface makes Crunchyroll look polished. It feels terrible to navigate and lags to shit. The most Good Morning Sirs app I've ever witnessed. If I didn't get the service free from my workNo, I don't work for the company I would never touch it.
In a browser there doesn't appear to be an episode description available, just title. Even Prime Video has episode descriptions.
My boss was telling me how much he loves Paramount +, though he mostly just watches Halo and Yellowstone. Once a week he uses his account to make every tv in the building play all three Indiana Jones movies.
Today at the Easter party he was standing in front of a tv watching Temple of Doom.
I told him about my plans to find a Star Trek chalice over the weekend and he asked if I wanted to hang out and watch Last Crusade in his top floor office for the rest of the day.
He's the only person I know with a Paramount + account.
>he mostly just watches Halo
Bullshit
Paramount is going all in as the Boomslop streamer
>Star Trek
>Yellowstone
>NCIS and all the other copypaste CBS procedurals
>Bunch of movies from ages ago
All the ads should be for diabetes drugs, reverse mortgages, and life insurance since they have that demographic locked down.
> All the ads should be for diabetes drugs, reverse mortgages, and life insurance
Ever picked up a newspaper lately? The ads are basically heart medicines and adult diapers. Tells you something about how they’re doing.
what's wrong with him?
Nothing, he's awesome. He's never even mentioned nuTrek.
Status update on the chalice. Now.
You forgot "Ghosts."
>Status update on the chalice. Now.
I was expecting Odo's bucket from DS9...
Strange New Worlds is actually good though.
>made for modern audiences dog shit
>good
>he isn't a modern audience
please tell us about whittling and shuffle board , Agnes
There's a show on YouTube, care of Tencent called Swallowed Star! Traditional show with the heroes journey that doesn't have unnatural dog shit! And has MILLIONS of viewers!
this thai food video has 9 times more
Made for modern audiences is code word for cancer Aids in the Ass!
Of course not, you instead rolls with Woke Made for modern audiences dog shit! And I'd bet you a trillion dollars that at the very least tencent can identify a woman!
>Made for modern audiences is code word for cancer Aids in the Ass!
just accept that what you like is outdated as typewriters
>This poorly written and executed dog shit that literally has no viewers, just admit it that your definition of quality is out dated
>Made for modern audiences is code word for cancer Aids in the Ass!
Tianemen square was a massacre, chang.
Go tell that to George Soros who funded it and thought he would have created another Student Revolution like the one in Iran in the 70's! He tried again in Ukraine in 2014 along with NATO at all removing a democratically elected Government, save for Donbass who resisted and was then bombed to the tune of several thousand civilians! How come no one charged Soros or NATO for war crimes?
Hey, grasshopper, Forbidden planet came out nearly 70 years ago and it is virtually perfect! As is China Town, as is Indiana Jones! Your modern audiences trash is such a repugnant barrel full of bile and dog shit!
>Hey, grasshopper, Forbidden planet came out nearly 70 years ago and it is virtually perfect! As is China Town, as is Indiana Jones! Your modern audiences trash is such a repugnant barrel full of bile and dog shit!
so your point and mine are the same?
there is nothing new to be done anymore, just watch old crap?
>nothing new
Maybe dei hired dumb asses are simply incompetent.
>Maybe dei hired dumb asses are simply incompetent.
maybe you are in denial
>ivan detected
into the trash it goes, enjoy your meat cube, mobik
Went into a Sovereign nation and literally removed a democratically elected government!
I thought those old countries were more traditional. Why are they letting that prostitute walk around with her breasts basically fully exposed?
>care of Tencent
i don't do CCP propaganda
but i liked lower decks and prodigy.
>prodigy
nonce
>STD
Did nobody on production realize this, or was it meant to be a joke?
that was just a small part of the whole big humiliation ritual
the shills tried really really hard on /trek/ general to make it DISCO not STD. it of course did not work. They did succeed in destroying the /trek/ general though by absolutely flooding the thread with nutrek, their shitty cartoons, and calling anyone who likes older trek "geezers"
and it was just one guy
Response? Glad it’s ending.
Can be revived after QT retires to TV. Y'know he's looking for his own Ryan Murphy deal
thank fricking god
>our response?
Just let it die. Stop trying paramount, you don't have the talent or the restraint to make a real star m Star Trek show
Daily reminder DSN started nutrek and VOY was the last actual good series.
Voyager had a few moments, but very few, and was a marked decline in quality. The reality is that every Star Trek series, TNG included, has had more bad than good, and time just allows everyone to remember the good and forget the bad. In twenty years there will be balding zoomers who fondly remember Star Trek: Discovery if only because the Star Trek in 2040 is so much worse, similar to the way people the Star Wars prequels were good because the Disney sequels were so bad.
You're a fricking moron. Not a single zoomer watches discovery. The only people who do are old boomers who think "brand loyalty" matters so they subject themselves to trash
This is true; every time our shill posts facebook pics going LOOK AT ALL OF THESE HUNDREDS OF FANS LINED UP FOR NEW TREK! the average age in them is like 65
to be fair, zoomers can't afford cruises
TNG
Good
>S3-5
>half S6
>half S7
>4 good seasons
Bad
>S1-2
>half 6
>half 7
>3 bad seasons
This is a rough generalization but holds up. For every Crusher Fricks A Ghost from the last two seasons I can name a Measure of a Man from the first two. Definitely more good than bad.
picard carried this show, people watch picard and where distraugh so the decided to go for discovery.
Didn't the magical negress angel save the universe in the last season? Isn't she the final boss, where does one go from there? History has ended, Star Trek has no purpose.
She used to be okay looking
that is shopped, she was fat from day one and it just got absurd later.
she was so frickable when thin.
/sadness
She got obese for blackrock brownie points.
don't care the only nutrek I watch is SNW
At least the actors can look forward to always being able to work the convention circuit meeting and greeting their several dozens of devoted fans.
Speaking of Star Trek: Discovery, S05 of the hit series starts next week on The Plus. The DISCO spin-off Star Trek: Strange New Worlds continues filming their S03. The DISCO Section 31 spin-off movie has finished principle filming. And the DISCO spin-off Star Trek: Star Fleet Academy starts filming this Summer.
But, no one watched it or liked it because -- just because -- alright!?
I think they realized with Picard S3 that the ceiling was much higher for Star Trek and the difficulties of streaming and making expensive science-fiction has caused them to recalibrate their priorities.
pic season 3 was awful and nobody watched it
cuz of the bigoted chuds like you
>principle filming
Doubtless truer than you realise. *Their* principles, mind.
>But, no one watched it or liked it because -- just because -- alright!?
See
It’s bizarre they got so many seasons. The “bad” Star Trek shows dwarf this show out of existence and cost less to make.
It’s so weird too because the argument was always about viewership. Not enough people wanted sci fi. But then they can make this crap for 5 seasons without an audience? And 5 spinoff shows. What?
I am told that SNW has more viewers than the flagship TV - Discovery.
>It’s bizarre they got so many seasons
Their "seasons" were only 10 to 12 episodes. Technically only a half season, but they changed the marketing and called it a "season" because CBS wouldn't fund more episodes.
Real older Star Trek had 25 episode seasons.
good riddance, frick this show, frick kurtzman, frick that shithead anthony rapp for ruining spacey's career. everything about this show was dreadful.
Cinemaphile is /disco/ turf, chud
why are there so many black people?
nig worship is reaching levels unheard of.
cancelled geezer trek series: 5
cancelled based nutrek series: 2
we are still winning!
>cancelled
no, the old shows ran their course
>no, the old shows ran their course
as did discovery
you cant have both
STD was cancelled after the fact, just like TOS was. ENT they were given a month or two's notice.
TNG, DS9, and VOY ended naturally.
YOU'RE the NL who needs to KYS.
no one ever expected STD 6
>>>“We didn’t know [Season 5 would be the end]. We finished shooting in November of [2022] and then found out around the New Year
I accept your gay concession
Pretty sure TOS was cancelled after 3 seasons, which is why the movies were made. Curious how there's no effort to produce any movies of the Nutrek shows
the movies were made to piggyback the STAR craze after star wars
the Asian Chick nutrek movie is being produced RN
kys
>the Asian Chick nutrek movie is being produced
Will it be theatrical release?
>theatrical
gramps, send me a telegram to discuss further
That's what I thought. I assumed the Section 31 spinoff would be a miniseries, but a Nutrek movie could only be stream-only. Nutrek doesn't have the audience for a theatrical release
gramps,
nothing have for a theatrical anymore (but avatar for normies or taylor swift concert movie) has the audience
god no, its a paramount+ release. Michelle Yeoh costs way to much money so they had to write her out of Discovery. the figures for a complete section 31 show probably made zero sense since they are bleeding money at this point so they moved it to a standalone movie.
Paramount is looking to sell shit and its gonna be a wild ride seeing what theyll do in the future. rumor is Halo is getting a season 3 and an ODST spinoff series so the Trek budget might be drying up. looks like itll just be Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks till they figure out the next steps
Just another distraction, like focusing on how many viewers there supposedly are/were:
Cancelled/not cancelled - whatever. Why don't you defend your nutrek show on the basis of its content? Talk about your favourite episode(s), for instance. What tricky moral dilemmas/problems did the characters face? What interesting sci-fi concepts were explored? What thoughts did the stories inspire? And tell us about the characters. Who are the most memorable and why? How do their skills/personalities complement those of the rest of the crew? Pre-Abrams/Kurtzman Trek routinely inspires this sort of discussion, yet I've never seen any nutrek enjoyer actually go into detail regarding what they like about their shows. Come to think of it, I've never seen nutrek enjoyers talk among themselves about a particular plot point or character development or whatever; it's always just "X character is heckin' awesome" (without any specifics beyond skin colour/sexuality) or (toothless) insults or regurgitated press-release info directed at old-Trek fans. A disinterested person might conclude that this is because nutrek content is simply too dull and superficial to merit such talk - that beneath the LGBTQP+QWERTY?*# representation there's nothing there - so why not prove them wrong?
>Talk about your favourite episode(s),
the ones with the blue lesbian that made geezers seethe!
that made nugays seethe because they wanted the stronk black wymyn to hook up with the dorky white guy
I mean, it was a rhetorical question, and you're trolling, but you just proved my point.
>What interesting sci-fi concepts were explored?
all concepts were done already
get over it and have fun with stories about gay coupling
So, in other words, none. (And because nutrek writers have no ideas, you think nobody does.)
>you think nobody does
And you can't prove me otherwise
I'd say "Challenge accepted", but I'm already working on something.
as expected
There have been good sci-fi series since (actual) Star Trek - The Orville, while derivative, had its moments, as did The Expanse. A few good space films too, e.g. Moon and The Martian (the latter involving lots of problem-solving, which is very Star Trek). There are plenty of space/sci-fi stories left to tell - provided you have intelligence and imagination. Nutrek writers lack both, as do you - in addition to lacking standards.
scavenger's reign was one of the very few scifi shows that actually depicted a truly alien environment and human tenacity in adapting to it
all your examples are way too derivative and didn't last long because of that
>There are plenty of space/sci-fi stories left to tell
list them
I ain't your b***h, Black person, and you're not a good-faith actor. I just gave some examples (I could also have mentioned S1 of Altered Carbon), and another anon just provided one too. Not interested in magically proving something to someone who won't accept any proof. You just enjoy your nutrek slop, or pretend to.
>those great ideas that have not lasted 25 episodes are great examples that fiction is not dead
I see...
The Expanse lasted more than 25 episodes, and why is that arbitrary number suddenly so important? And, wait, now you've gone from claiming the sci-fi genre is played out to saying that "fiction is dead"? You're way out there now, mate. Which is more likely, I wonder: storytelling, which has been part of human civilisation for thousands of years, just suddenly became defunct? Or nutrek writers are talentless hacks?
>storytelling, which has been part of human civilisation for thousands of years, just suddenly became defunct?
yes, we have saturation and jadedness now, added to infinite options and tiktok-like media.
Fiction will be a zombie forever, but nothing sprangs the next franchise that make people create conventions for.
maybe the only outlier is the cult of taylor swift
>sci-fi is played out
>actually, fiction is dead
>uh, fiction isn't quite dead, but it doesn't count unless there are conventions, and there'll definitely never again be any of those for some reason, except Taylor Swift - yeah, let's deflect onto her
Black person, please.
This is oddly motivational, actually. Even though no one will ever be able to hold you to account for your slippery, moronic nonsense, and you probably don't read books, I enjoy the thought of you reading mine and enjoying it and having to pretend you didn't.
>deflect my points
>goes into denial
Very nice digits, but you're still a moron who'll go to any lengths, jump through any hoops, just to avoid admitting that nutrek is shit. Nutrek writers don't have any interesting ideas... so that means no one does or ever can again!!! That really is what you've claimed (though I don't doubt you'll now claim you were actually saying something else, because God help you if you're ever pinned down on anything!). Frick, man - if nothing else, Ockham's razor. Nutrek is just shit.
Nutrek is shit. but it is still the best that can be done right now.
Finally you've (assuming you're the same person) jumped to a position I can sort of agree with. If we're talking about things being produced in Hollywood in the current year. Even there I can't totally agree, since Severance (S1 at least; they could still frick it up) came out fairly recently and was genuinely good.
im the same
but thinks like Severance still feel a little bitter post modernist and wokey
There are woke elements, yeah. But so far, they don't insist on themselves. So far. https://youtu.be/xP7EvEMMUDo
they are fricking it up by making a S2 - it was a self contained enough story with one season.
The fact that Erickson wrote the pilot years ago and may therefore have planned everything (or most things) out in advance gives me hope.
Tilly is looking good after some weight loss, but everyone has hit the wall warp speed.
I'll cross my fingers but I gave up hope on tv shows continuity & good writing after True Detective season 2.
Mary Wiseman is looking Tillicious:
Jesus Christ mommy milkers
i heard a rumor that they put one of the new shows on youtube for free and it only got about 50k views.
remember when nutrek suddenly started creeping into the nielsen top 10 but then their contract expired and they got fired anyway?
assumptions
kys
my post was factual. i will not be held responsible for your inferences
>factual
>no sauce
gay geezer detected
whoopsie
https://adage.com/article/measurement/paramount-picks-ispottv-tv-ad-currency-alternative/2520946
assumptions of correlation
typical of homosexuals
Akoocheemoya
we must recover the bones of my people before they discover them gone and go mad, launch a jihad, a holy war on the galaxy.
Hire the most heady intellectual English writers that are fans of cold war espionage thrillers and Hornblower and Sharpe adventures romps to write an episodic adventure-of-the-week TV show about a joint British-Prussian naval vessel during the Seven Year's War. And then when they're done, transcribe that story to instead focus on a Federation starship. Done. That's what I want to see. And how RLM phrased it, focus on experts using their expertise to solve complex problems.
>focus on experts using their expertise to solve complex problems.
Impossible in clown world. Look at 3 body problem, that's literally the blueprint of the story and they still fricked it up and made it even worse than std somehow.
Until all the current writers/directors/producers are killed and replaced things will never get better.
Don't smile because it's over. Cry because it happened.
what happened to him and the tardigrade?
It's funny, once they toned down the homosexualry, he ended up becoming a really good character. Even after the resurrection, they decided to keep the gay toned way the frick down. Even got rid of the troony's BF.
The white gay grew on me; and I really enjoyed the cripple bulldyke lesbian character too - snarky and would have a beer with(or is that SNW?); probably would flirt with the same women too.
>cripple bulldyke lesbian character too -
who?
Jett Reno - had to look it up.
i would've watched a series centered around her.
honest question
are you really sure you still could enjoy new star trek even if they do whatever you expect?
honestly i dont know at this point. i even hated Picard Season 3. there were some fun parts to it but it just ended up being more miserable and less hopeful than anything. they brought back characters just to die, shoe horned in fan favorite things from Voyager and DS9 and so on.
The hope i have is an after VOY,DS9,TNG Star Trek that just follows the old style without having to introduce 18 different generational characters. but instead its going to be dumb shit like "Spocks kid is here somehow, and Jack Picard is here now, and Geordis daughter is here now, and also this Trill is also Dax" and thats what the hack writer matalis wants. i dont think old star trek can ever come back
so many fans are clamoring for that "Legacy" show where it's just everyone's kids; so tacky.
Yes, how dare Trek be a franchise where we see the next generation of characters shine
yes, imagine if TNG was kirk jr
>imagine if TNG was kirk jr
Sons of Kirk
we can't have that
that's criminally tacky
>gets killed next movie
The Next Generation (1987) didn't have any descendants of TOS characters in its main cast.
I remember reading that they wanted to at first, but Gene said it would come off as corny as hell.
>but Gene said it would come off as corny as hell.
nice tripdubdubs, checked.
But let's take a look at the things Gene did NOT think were corny as hell
>absolutely no interpersonal conflict
>skants
>rape planets full of rape
>wunderkind child prodigy whose potential would change things forever who saves the day every day (aka white male michael burnham)
>skants
>the ferengi as a serious antagonist race, in the show bible with huge dongs
>denise crosby looking directly at the camera and telling the audience to D.A.R.E. to Just Say No
>completely reusing The Naked TIme
>skants
so I suspect Gene Roddenberry may not be the best arbiter of taste
If it was the adventures of Captain Jane Kirk ON TOP OF all of that, it would've been the worst shit ever.
go home Terry no one gives a shit for your fanfiction ass show. i want to see new characters and a new view on the world that isnt cemented in some sort of gay batshit lineage based horseshit. i hope you never get a chance to do legacy
Bad Reboot's nu Trek is quite literally cancer Aids in the Ass!
hi Gary
Oh, still posting that picture from 7 years ago before DISCO started. Wonder what the line for DISCO looks like now?
NB4 They're all being held hostage at gunpoint by Somali pirates paid by Paramount+.
he is that gay geezer that tried to suck jeffrey comb's dick
the picture was for a signing and half of the people were there because Jeffray Combs has been in fricking everything. nowhere did i say that Paramount+ was paying for viewership nor did i deny that there are actual fricking fans of the show. i just dont understand how there are fans of the show at all and im honestly looking for people to explain it to me
show me his line from last year
you cant
i literally cant, and more than likely in the picture posted earlier people started at Combs and walked down to the others. its still a very funny picture you lunatic
>more than likely
assumptions
NO ONE supports STD or any of it! Your neet modern Audiences don't buy merchandise! Trek is dead!
>trek is dead
all in the geezer final frontier
>geezer
You mean people with actual money who isn't a fail at everything neet( your new fan base) who, at one time ago, would spend money and of whom trek collectibles was an investment? Those geezers?
those geezers that cry everyday because le evil company does not make new old-timey trek for them
>Old timey
Is that what Paramount and Disney calls the fans of their IPs,, no wonder they lost BILLIONS!
>buying things
You need not worry your sweet little head about buying anything or paying bills for that matter, Neet Zoomie!
boomer content
>You mean people who would spend money and of whom trek collectibles was an investment? *wheeze*
Be honest, how many crates of Durango Troi did you buy as your retirement "investment". Approximately. No need to go down to the basement to count them again.
I bought these to coom on.
They're clearly not fans of the show (otherwise we'd see discussions of its content, as described here
); they're fans of what it represents. Which is basically, "Frick you, Drumpf/geezer/chud/goy/whatever I dislike." Kind of reminds me of a cartoon in a Viz-type annual I got for Christmas years ago: a Roy of the Rovers-style parody in which a football club merges with another football club and becomes increasingly corporate, culminating in the pitch being replaced by a housing development and the supporters cheering on the share price.
> Why don't you talk about DISCO?
> Whaaaa! Don't talk about DISCO! Especially not in a DISCO thread!
Make up what's left of your mind.
And imagine thinking his Geezer "Roy of the Rovers" reference will connect with the kids today.
god i wish i could crash a spaceship into this general
fragille ego being fricked by youngsters!
good
frick off geezer c**t
>the youngsters
You mean fat middle aged neets? Youngsters are busy watching their stupid political streamers/youtubers or playing video games. You seem to be the out of touch geezer here
Who are you quoting?
Who said I want to connect with anyone like you, homosexual? And superficial "X is so heckin' valid!" guff =/= discussions of interesting sci-fi concepts, moral dilemmas etc, which you can't do, because nutrek contains none. And it's STD, Black person.
"You darn DISCO kids get off my TNGeezer lawn!"
>DISCO kids
Where? That cruise line was all 70yos
Boothby's great. If you'd had a mentor or any decent father figure in your life, perhaps you wouldn't be such an unfunny little homosexual.
> Cranky Boothby is my Trek self insert!
Don't doubt that for a minute.
I have no dog in your moron autist slap fight, but Boothby wasn't particularly cranky.
Black person couldn't even spell Boothby.
>NB4 They're all being held hostage at gunpoint by Somali pirates paid by Paramount+.
Please, take your meds.
Most likely had nothing else to do that day and there was some other incentive not mentioned in this screencap. Also nice fat boomer fanbase lol
> There's nothing else to do on a Star Trek Cruise!
Really anon? That's what you're reduced to?
Yeah there's lots to do like
cosplay
and uh
have gay geezer orgies!
There you are. You still haven't told me which episodes of STD that you believe will be remembered as classics. You just started rambling about how you hate TNG. Avoiding the question like a little fairy b***h.
any STD episode would be a classic if aired 30 years ago homosexual, the only difference is that you dont have gay nostalgia for it
Holy shit you are delusional
prove me wrong
you cant
>defending a shitty wokeslop show while saying homosexual
Glad paramount is sending their best!
>ages 17+
lol wtf
>fully articulate
someone did that on purpose
>NB4 They're all being held hostage at gunpoint by Somali pirates paid by Paramount+.
they is unironically the more likely alternative and i aint even memeing
>NB4 They're all being held hostage at gunpoint by Somali pirates paid by Paramount+.
This meme will never stop being funny.
TBF - Jeffrey Combs was GOAT in Reanimator.
i will enjoy good things, yes.
but no one in the production side agree with your views of what is good, so you will enjoy nothing
I enjoy things though.
old crap I presume
nope. chink version of three body problem was quite enjoyable.
what trek needs is voyager done right
I am not trolling. I truly believe Stargate Universe is the Platonic ideal of Voyager.
The gay ass drama got to be too much. I hated every character except Rush.
>The gay ass drama got to be too much
this is exactly what happens when you are trapped on a ship with people you don't get along with, in the middle of absoluitely fricking nowhere with zero chance of getting home and constant existential threats
it is cinema verite, and yes it is gay ass, but welcome to the human condition (status: gay and ass)
>when you are trapped on a ship with people you don't get along with
like the real military
>like the real military
What's the Starfleet equivalent of a Jody? I propose the name T'Vash.
Star gate Universe, albeit infinitely better than anything bad Reboot has done, was a FUK U to Stargate fans because test Audiences didn't want degenerate Dykes in SGA season 5's siren episode!
Show runner Mozilla, among the first virtue signalling woke idiots, Cancelled SGA because he wanted to be a pioneer of the progressively woke dog shit, that would have become a trendsetter for the aforementioned made for modern audiences!
So, Piss on Mozilla, piss on SGU, and piss on Dykes!
And when I say Mozilla I don't mean the browser.
>7 "Whispers" William Waring Joseph Mallozzi & Paul Mullie September 5, 2008
I of course mean Mallozzi, that son of a b***h!
See picrel! What a stupid son of a b***h!
After they tamped down on the teen drama angle by having Chloe get mindraped multiple times, SGU was kino
>this cancer got 5 seasons and ENG got only 4
not that ENT was good but its way better that STD
What an awful fricking cast
Where id the fatty? Did she die?
she's going to be the Living Construct in the new kid's show, Starfleet Academy
Who loses money? The investors! This is money laundering; they take your money and film dog shit NO ONE watches using a production team they own/or get kick backs from!
The real losers are the investors!
They only got a 5th season so they could argue at least we're not as bad as ENT
But only 65 episodes instead of 98... yikes oof
fillers don't count
so like 10 vs 98? strict but fair
At least ENT can be enjoyed with the entire family care of progressive dog vomit!
is this "family" in the room with you right now?
The best bit is at the convention where no one ask these made for modern losers I mean audiences for their autographs.
>fills an entire cruise ship of nutrek fans
Why was the whole line of people going to see the STD panel all over the age of 65?
>nu Trek fans WHO DOESN'T buy the MERCHANDISE like the True Trek fans once did for more than 60 years!
geezer be like
>quality is not measured by popularity
geezer be also like
nu Trek fans WHO DOESN'T buy the MERCHANDISE like the True Trek fans
typical hypocrisy
The few people who buy nutrek products such as the ship models and lower decks moopsy dolls are old, too. Like 60-70.
They noticeably saw the old fans stop supporting merchandise within the first season of STD aids!
>sauce not provided
Obviously they canceled Discovery because it was doing so well
Obviously they canceled TNG because it was doing so well
they did though. they canceled it at its peak thinking they could make it a successful film franchise.
You know that Discovery had less than 70 thousand viewers when offered for free on tv, yeah?
stop flipflopping if popularity is a measure of quality or not
>a niche market enjoyed by an exclusive group known as trekkies who saw trek as a religion and numbered in the millions was r!replaced by a handful of neet morons
>sauce
Yeah, so lucrative star trek has become CBS paramount is desperate to sell it!
>CBS-Paramount are going backgrupt
>Gonna be bought by Apple, Amazon,
>End-boss of all media will be tech giants Apple, Amazon, Google, Meta, and Netflix
Grim. I hate the Anti-Christ.
Never watched it because I'm not a fat ass or a troony, but I'm just glad there's one fewer fat chick on television pretending to be intelligent
I made it through half an episode and never went back
>/trek/bros... our response?
Too late, they should have shot the show like the sick dog it was after the first season instead of letting the cancer spread.
That's the power of math, people
Can't watch a show with a woman named "Michael".
Frick outta here with that shit.
Can't watch a show with a frail gay bald captain.
Frick outta here with that shit.
S
>STD was cancelled
>the STD spinoff movie is a "streaming exclusive special"
>nutrek is cancelled
>still no show for old geezie
>nothing to complain online
>dukat did nothing wrong
Will you be watching the zesty adventures of Doctor Who this May?
I'm not a NL
Gary will watch for me.
target the orphanage
It never was Star Trek. It was a ~~*CURRENT DAY*~~ black LARP in a series they did nothing to create where they pretend their fantasies of being the alpha people in the franchise.
imagine being a homosexual and collecting merchandise
imagine watching slop made for streaming services
>collecting merchandise
Unless you are contemplating your Eaglemoss ship models. This is okay.
geezer shove his ship model inside his ass
Eaglemoss is for contemplating. Playmates are for prostate stimulation, it's in the name.
These comments always seem to be directed at someone in particular. Qrd?
What do you want?
complete geezer demise
How old are you then?
28, practically geriatric
Same. If only you were a single biological female
I was
I think I’d make you feel more special and make your heart go budum-budum-budum harder
Unless you mean you transitioned into a man. In that case well um good for you. Wouldn’t be the first time I didn’t recognize a girls value when I had the chance and then “he” hit me up years later to wingman
19
lets go geezies
>future starship captains look up to boothby
>HE IS LE BAD
goat