Probably already tarnished too much by Disney + slop.
The original idea of "____ A Star Wars Story" might not have been as financually lucrative, but I think it would have kept a lot more fans if we just got big movies every other year.
I would have watched a "Droids" movie in theaters at midnight with a big bycket of popcorn. I will never watch a "Droids" Disney + show.
No. Star Wars is a story that should be retold and explored. The problem is that the cult is obsessed with corporate product controlled by people who sneer at the values of the original series. Even if any of them realize it, none of them are standing up against the evil Empire. They are just going along with the continued desecration of their culture. And how can you blame them when George did too?
Declare the new Disney canon null and void
Ban distribution of anything new Disney canon related.
Continue making novels / games / etc. for the EU.
Ban any future movies.
Decanonize everything Disney. Fire everyone at Lucasfilm, specially those who betrayed Lucas. Bring back Lucas as Producer and studio head, let him hire some pawns like he did with Marquand or Keshner to direct and let him cook his episodes 7, 8 and 9.
>decanonize disneywars, bring back EU as a guide >don't touch anything in a 100-200 year bubble around the events of the OT/prequels. That story is finished, dead and buried. >put a leash on the furry self inserter >stick with simple, concise stories >let the main content breathe (movie every 3-4 years, 1 season of TV every other year) >let vidya/novels/comics/toys be the workhorse (long shot considering people don't buy books and western comics anymore, and kids don't care about star wars) >get a big anime studio to make a star wars series (i forgot if they're doing this already). See what it did with cyberpunk.
Goal #1 is to get late zoomers/gen alpha into star wars, instead of what's going on right now pandering to DINK type Xers and millenials with 6000 dollar hotel stays. Goal #2 is accept that this is a rehabilitation project and will take years, if not a decade, to bear fruit.
Star wars was a hot product from a 30 year stretch, even in spite of the prequels and the plinkett reviews. Disney started off really hot with 7/R1/BF, but they squandered it horribly, and kept shovelling slop into full stomachs.
Anon, you just summed up the fricking problem the second you said you need to "get" Gen Alpha into it.
Zoomers fricking ran to the Clone Wars when it was airing. Star Wars consistently crossed generation gaps because it was a franchise that kids were raised on.
Also Gen Alpha is known for flipping the frick out when their tablets are taken away and the tablet babies are now displaying signs of impaired empathy from lack of early social interaction, do you really wanna give them lightsabers?
3-4 years between movies just means kids stop caring about it. They churn material out to try and maintain any kind of social presence. It's not 1979 and a single 2 hour long movie does not linger in the social consciousness for 4 years anymore. They just need to make something people can actually care about and it can be in any form of content. A huge question is why they stepped away from cartoons and video games so much from 2015-2020. They had 2 cartoons and like 2 video games. They just miscalculated every aspect of the entirety of this franchise in every way, it's honestly crazy when you think about it.
Put the war back in "Star Wars." Disney Lucasfilm has the resources to make basically any movie come to life and they have made nothing that compares to the scale and spectacle of the big battle scenes in the Prequels (except maybe Rogue One). I want fleets of starships blasting each other to smithereens and massive armies duking it out for the fate of a planet. Instead we get a couple characters running around cramped hallway sets and the Millenium Falcon being chased by a few TIE fighters over and over again.
I don't. Movies were never supposed to come in "franchises". You made a feature length film in an interesting setting? Cool, now make a different one in a different setting. Anything more than a trilogy is a perversion, in my view. Name one "franchise" that benefitted from being composed of 3+ movies?
Give it back to Lucas, let him do a canonical direct sequel to ROTJ that wipes out all the Disney shit. Not a new trilogy, just one film about Luke building the new Jedi order to set things right.
Make a set of movies set in the distant past revolving around the origins of the Jedi and Sith.
Also, return to the original theme of space cowboys and mystical samurai instead of hyper powerful superheroes with space magic.
There might be some possibility still for Star Wars to slowly shift into American folklore. Disney sure is trying to make that impossible these days though. It's possible they will succeed and Star Wars will be permanently ruined.
Take a page from Christianity.
Hold an ecumenical council. The "fandom" must agree to recognize that the canon is limited primarily to the original 6 Lucas movies.
Disney, like Arius, must be regarded as heretical. Their works are in opposition to the spirit of the canon saga. At best, they occasionally produce very expensive fan-fiction.
Iteration and retellings of the original Saga must become commonplace. Obviously this will have to be via unpaid passion projects from fans. It would've been nice if George didn't sell out and ushered Star Wars into the public domain prior to 2067. Alas..
>throw disney canon in the trash >revive Legends >only let people work on the IP who are actually passionate about Star Wars >no western degeneracy
Its impossible
Let stores finally clear out the never-ending flood of shit that ends up on clearance. Give audiences a chance to turn "non-stop shoved in our fricking faces" into sentimental value. And use the time to write the world's most kick-ass script that'll make audiences fall in love with SW again.
Even when we had Lucasarts it was criminal how they completely cancelled all of their good shit. >no KotOR 3 >no JK 3 >no BF 3 >no Republic Commando 2/Imperial Commando >no 1313
First thing I would do is bring them back just to finish this shit properly. What the frick were they thinking?
But anon why do we need KotOR 3 when we have swtor? As bioware said it's like getting KotOR 3, 4, 5 ,6, and 7 all in one big package! 🙂 It's me. I'm the anon. The anon that is still mad all these years later.
That's the sad truth. There hasn't been a great star wars game released since the mid 00s. That's 6-7 years before Disney gave control to EA.
Fallen Order was a step in the right direction. >Single player >Action adventure >No micro transactions >Male protagonist >Cute waifu
It could have been great if it wasn't set in the OT era. But they gotta have their Vader cameo...
Jedi survivor was also disappointing. So two steps forward and one step backwards. At least EA doesn't hold the sole rights anymore. Maybe some smaller studio can produce kino
I thought jedi survivor was great honestly. Liked it a lot, had no issues with it. Shows there's nothing wrong with the IP imo, just let people not working at Disney take a shot at it and it works out at least fine. It was definitely a lot more successful than most of Disney made too.
That's the sad truth. There hasn't been a great star wars game released since the mid 00s. That's 6-7 years before Disney gave control to EA.
Fallen Order was a step in the right direction. >Single player >Action adventure >No micro transactions >Male protagonist >Cute waifu
It could have been great if it wasn't set in the OT era. But they gotta have their Vader cameo...
Jedi survivor was also disappointing. So two steps forward and one step backwards. At least EA doesn't hold the sole rights anymore. Maybe some smaller studio can produce kino
There were basically cancelled all around 2008, when TCW became the prime focus of everything. TFU and TFUII were pretty good, though grognards will rage. SWTOR was also really good.
Of course, nothing compares to the golden age of the mid-2000s. Jedi Outcast and Academy, the two Battlefronts, Galaxies, KOTOR1 and KOTOR2, Rogue Squadron, Empire at War (still going strong), shit even Battlegrounds... And just look at how much tie-in games the fricking Prequels had. I include KOTOR1 as a Prequel tie-in because it uses a lot of things ranging from sound design to things like armor/ships (Ebon Hawk is basically Falcon mixed with the Republic Consular ship from TPM). Now compare it to the Sequels. What kinda cool video games or even comics and books did the Sequels spawn? Fricking zero. We still don't know what the First Order even actually was. Nearly TEN years since TFA.
They should write a story where bad guys are poisoning the Force, trying to birsmirch the honor of the good guys by pretending to be the good guys, so when people start believing the good guys are bad, when in reality, the bad guys just infiltrated the ranks of the good guys, and pretended to be good guys and deliberately do bad, so that they can make others think the good guys are actually bad, demolition job through deception it is, and then their job is done, either they keep a low profile for another deception demolition poison job, or reveal themselves already to be the bad guys.
Reshoot the acolyte. Do a bounty hunter vs jedi kill bill type story. All the star wars theory niatoos tier fanboys would love it. Include some mention of the sith to soil their panties more
They fricked up a TV show that had boba fett ride a fricking rancor. If they could frick that up they'd frick your idea too. Seriously imagine telling someone from 2008 a Boba Fett show got made and he rides a rancor.
>How do you save this franchise?
Retcon the st and everything disney's done.
New film. Luke's jedi academy. New set of heroes he has to train. Dies heroically in the 2nd film leading to the new heroes feeling lost but his spirit guides them.
Easy.
>make 7,8,9 non canon >make a new Star Wars episode 7, staring Luke’s son >Mark Hammil is back and actually plays a proper Luke >Leia written out, only mentions >Han Solo also written out >Call George Lucas to write a proper new-trilogy without the use of Han or Leia
I'm not sure if any other anon has said this already, but what's most annoying to me is that S1 of Mando began the course of actually doing this. Regardless of how you felt about it, it took a vicious right turn away from the sequel trilogy in terms of style, ethos and presentation. Then, immediately following...Favreau was forced to put on his stockings and pumps then hit the corner.
I'm not really aware if this was an overall studio onslaught, or if Filoni specifically threw tantrums and spearheaded what would come afterward. Either way, frick Filoni and as much as I like Favreau, he simply can't be trusted around this material anymore.
Make a good movie with new characters. Set it in the future so you can pretty much ignore the sequels.
this. fire everyone and soft reboot. the problem is that would never happen at lucasfilm.
it's over
completely junk everything made after x-wing alliance and end the series there
Probably already tarnished too much by Disney + slop.
The original idea of "____ A Star Wars Story" might not have been as financually lucrative, but I think it would have kept a lot more fans if we just got big movies every other year.
I would have watched a "Droids" movie in theaters at midnight with a big bycket of popcorn. I will never watch a "Droids" Disney + show.
why would you save it anyway? Let it die, it had its run.
Make everything Disney made officially non-canon for starters.
Scrap all Disney canon,recast young actors for Han,Luke,and Leia and begin adapting the most popular stories of the EU.
what franchise? star wars is a finished series of six movies.
You misspelled three.
This. We must go back to pre-Disney canon, and never make another movie again.
No. Star Wars is a story that should be retold and explored. The problem is that the cult is obsessed with corporate product controlled by people who sneer at the values of the original series. Even if any of them realize it, none of them are standing up against the evil Empire. They are just going along with the continued desecration of their culture. And how can you blame them when George did too?
You don’t. You let it burn and watch Disney frick themselves with their ugly women, Black folk and homosexuals.
You can't. Live with it. And let it die.
Declare the new Disney canon null and void
Ban distribution of anything new Disney canon related.
Continue making novels / games / etc. for the EU.
Ban any future movies.
Decanonize everything Disney. Fire everyone at Lucasfilm, specially those who betrayed Lucas. Bring back Lucas as Producer and studio head, let him hire some pawns like he did with Marquand or Keshner to direct and let him cook his episodes 7, 8 and 9.
It'll never happen but it really is the only way.
Make it public domain
>decanonize disneywars, bring back EU as a guide
>don't touch anything in a 100-200 year bubble around the events of the OT/prequels. That story is finished, dead and buried.
>put a leash on the furry self inserter
>stick with simple, concise stories
>let the main content breathe (movie every 3-4 years, 1 season of TV every other year)
>let vidya/novels/comics/toys be the workhorse (long shot considering people don't buy books and western comics anymore, and kids don't care about star wars)
>get a big anime studio to make a star wars series (i forgot if they're doing this already). See what it did with cyberpunk.
Goal #1 is to get late zoomers/gen alpha into star wars, instead of what's going on right now pandering to DINK type Xers and millenials with 6000 dollar hotel stays. Goal #2 is accept that this is a rehabilitation project and will take years, if not a decade, to bear fruit.
Star wars was a hot product from a 30 year stretch, even in spite of the prequels and the plinkett reviews. Disney started off really hot with 7/R1/BF, but they squandered it horribly, and kept shovelling slop into full stomachs.
Anon, you just summed up the fricking problem the second you said you need to "get" Gen Alpha into it.
Zoomers fricking ran to the Clone Wars when it was airing. Star Wars consistently crossed generation gaps because it was a franchise that kids were raised on.
Also Gen Alpha is known for flipping the frick out when their tablets are taken away and the tablet babies are now displaying signs of impaired empathy from lack of early social interaction, do you really wanna give them lightsabers?
3-4 years between movies just means kids stop caring about it. They churn material out to try and maintain any kind of social presence. It's not 1979 and a single 2 hour long movie does not linger in the social consciousness for 4 years anymore. They just need to make something people can actually care about and it can be in any form of content. A huge question is why they stepped away from cartoons and video games so much from 2015-2020. They had 2 cartoons and like 2 video games. They just miscalculated every aspect of the entirety of this franchise in every way, it's honestly crazy when you think about it.
Put the war back in "Star Wars." Disney Lucasfilm has the resources to make basically any movie come to life and they have made nothing that compares to the scale and spectacle of the big battle scenes in the Prequels (except maybe Rogue One). I want fleets of starships blasting each other to smithereens and massive armies duking it out for the fate of a planet. Instead we get a couple characters running around cramped hallway sets and the Millenium Falcon being chased by a few TIE fighters over and over again.
get jenna ortega to write the script.
Go back to 2008 and restart from there.
Publicly lynch Iger, Kennedy, Filoni, etc, you get the idea.
Cancel everything except Skeleton Crew, then replace Skeleton Crew with Nudist Crew starring Jyn, Shin, and Dedra
>Felicity Jones
Oof. There's a career I'm sad to see die
Rian Johnson trilogy.
there is nothing to save.
all star wars movies are boring and for kids its basic shit
I don't. Movies were never supposed to come in "franchises". You made a feature length film in an interesting setting? Cool, now make a different one in a different setting. Anything more than a trilogy is a perversion, in my view. Name one "franchise" that benefitted from being composed of 3+ movies?
Luke Skywalker and Anakin Skywalker's Force Ghosts materialize, looking concerned.
LUKE
The Star Wars franchise needs a boost, Anakin. It's lost its spark.
ANAKIN
Yeah, too many Death Stars and not enough laughs. We need humor.
LUKE
(chuckles)
Maybe a Force-powered stand-up comedy show?
ANAKIN
Now you're talking. Picture Yoda delivering punchlines. Hilarious, it would be.
LUKE
And we need new characters with attitude. How about a Wookiee stand-up comedian?
ANAKIN
(roaring laughter)
That'd be a roaring success! But we can't forget lightsabers.
LUKE
True. What about a Jedi training academy sitcom? Young Padawans stumbling over lightsabers.
ANAKIN
(laughing)
And the Force pranks they play on each other. The possibilities are endless.
LUKE
But we need a compelling story too. How about a quest for the galaxy's best cup of coffee?
ANAKIN
(laughing)
Darth Latte, the dark roast lord! Brilliant.
LUKE
And of course, we can't ignore fan feedback. Maybe a Force Ghost Yelp for afterlife destinations?
ANAKIN
(smirking)
Five stars for Endor's Ewok spa.
LUKE
(laughing)
Let's be honest; we're the ghosts of the past. The living will figure it out.
ANAKIN
(laughing)
True, true. Let the Force of creativity be with them.
They high-five, and their laughter echoes as they fade away.
FADE OUT.
Is this AI generated?
Yes
LET IT FRICKING DIE.
set it at least a hundred years either before or after the saga
Give it back to Lucas, let him do a canonical direct sequel to ROTJ that wipes out all the Disney shit. Not a new trilogy, just one film about Luke building the new Jedi order to set things right.
Make a set of movies set in the distant past revolving around the origins of the Jedi and Sith.
Also, return to the original theme of space cowboys and mystical samurai instead of hyper powerful superheroes with space magic.
I've avoided SW all my life but caught the bug from the Cal Kestis games. What next?
There might be some possibility still for Star Wars to slowly shift into American folklore. Disney sure is trying to make that impossible these days though. It's possible they will succeed and Star Wars will be permanently ruined.
Take a page from Christianity.
Hold an ecumenical council. The "fandom" must agree to recognize that the canon is limited primarily to the original 6 Lucas movies.
Disney, like Arius, must be regarded as heretical. Their works are in opposition to the spirit of the canon saga. At best, they occasionally produce very expensive fan-fiction.
Iteration and retellings of the original Saga must become commonplace. Obviously this will have to be via unpaid passion projects from fans. It would've been nice if George didn't sell out and ushered Star Wars into the public domain prior to 2067. Alas..
>throw disney canon in the trash
>revive Legends
>only let people work on the IP who are actually passionate about Star Wars
>no western degeneracy
Its impossible
You make Rey kill herself in the next sequel
I hate the word franchise and everyone using it.
SHELVE THE WHOLE FRICKING THING FOR 10+ YEARS.
Let stores finally clear out the never-ending flood of shit that ends up on clearance. Give audiences a chance to turn "non-stop shoved in our fricking faces" into sentimental value. And use the time to write the world's most kick-ass script that'll make audiences fall in love with SW again.
You can’t. They won’t. It’s dead
Star wars is beyond saving. Move on OP
>Giving Filoni control over anything
>after proving that he's always been a part of the problem with Ahsoka
No.
God this guy is such a manchild it's embarrassing.
>Andor sucked the only good scene was the Death Star tease at the end
>Filoni and Favreau
D R O P P E D
Jesus Christ Disney Star Wars broke that man. None of that will ever happen.
Bring back Lucasarts. The lack of constant Star Wars vidya like we used to get is criminal.
Even when we had Lucasarts it was criminal how they completely cancelled all of their good shit.
>no KotOR 3
>no JK 3
>no BF 3
>no Republic Commando 2/Imperial Commando
>no 1313
First thing I would do is bring them back just to finish this shit properly. What the frick were they thinking?
But anon why do we need KotOR 3 when we have swtor? As bioware said it's like getting KotOR 3, 4, 5 ,6, and 7 all in one big package! 🙂
It's me. I'm the anon. The anon that is still mad all these years later.
It's not just me right? All the vidya you posted was kino, factually and for true. We're not boomers right? That shit was top shelf? Especially
>kotor
>was kino
Is. Is, my friend.
>t. played kotor for the first time in 2020 while he was old enough to have played it when it first came out
It's pretty amazing how KotOR managed to highlight and reimagine every single story trope from the OT. They really did a fantastic job.
That's the sad truth. There hasn't been a great star wars game released since the mid 00s. That's 6-7 years before Disney gave control to EA.
Fallen Order was a step in the right direction.
>Single player
>Action adventure
>No micro transactions
>Male protagonist
>Cute waifu
It could have been great if it wasn't set in the OT era. But they gotta have their Vader cameo...
Jedi survivor was also disappointing. So two steps forward and one step backwards. At least EA doesn't hold the sole rights anymore. Maybe some smaller studio can produce kino
I thought jedi survivor was great honestly. Liked it a lot, had no issues with it. Shows there's nothing wrong with the IP imo, just let people not working at Disney take a shot at it and it works out at least fine. It was definitely a lot more successful than most of Disney made too.
There were basically cancelled all around 2008, when TCW became the prime focus of everything. TFU and TFUII were pretty good, though grognards will rage. SWTOR was also really good.
Of course, nothing compares to the golden age of the mid-2000s. Jedi Outcast and Academy, the two Battlefronts, Galaxies, KOTOR1 and KOTOR2, Rogue Squadron, Empire at War (still going strong), shit even Battlegrounds... And just look at how much tie-in games the fricking Prequels had. I include KOTOR1 as a Prequel tie-in because it uses a lot of things ranging from sound design to things like armor/ships (Ebon Hawk is basically Falcon mixed with the Republic Consular ship from TPM). Now compare it to the Sequels. What kinda cool video games or even comics and books did the Sequels spawn? Fricking zero. We still don't know what the First Order even actually was. Nearly TEN years since TFA.
Super Bombad Racing was fun and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
I was assmad so much that it was PS2 only.
Have George direct a new movie that ends on a cliffhanger and shelve it for the next 20 years
They should write a story where bad guys are poisoning the Force, trying to birsmirch the honor of the good guys by pretending to be the good guys, so when people start believing the good guys are bad, when in reality, the bad guys just infiltrated the ranks of the good guys, and pretended to be good guys and deliberately do bad, so that they can make others think the good guys are actually bad, demolition job through deception it is, and then their job is done, either they keep a low profile for another deception demolition poison job, or reveal themselves already to be the bad guys.
Reshoot the acolyte. Do a bounty hunter vs jedi kill bill type story. All the star wars theory niatoos tier fanboys would love it. Include some mention of the sith to soil their panties more
They fricked up a TV show that had boba fett ride a fricking rancor. If they could frick that up they'd frick your idea too. Seriously imagine telling someone from 2008 a Boba Fett show got made and he rides a rancor.
>How do you save this franchise?
Retcon the st and everything disney's done.
New film. Luke's jedi academy. New set of heroes he has to train. Dies heroically in the 2nd film leading to the new heroes feeling lost but his spirit guides them.
Easy.
Hand it over to Japan and make it exclusively 2D anthology stories from multiple studios to get the most creativity out of the franchise.
George Lucas makes a real episode 7. Only thing. Other than that it’s absolutely over.
>make 7,8,9 non canon
>make a new Star Wars episode 7, staring Luke’s son
>Mark Hammil is back and actually plays a proper Luke
>Leia written out, only mentions
>Han Solo also written out
>Call George Lucas to write a proper new-trilogy without the use of Han or Leia
Star Wars is dead
I'm not sure if any other anon has said this already, but what's most annoying to me is that S1 of Mando began the course of actually doing this. Regardless of how you felt about it, it took a vicious right turn away from the sequel trilogy in terms of style, ethos and presentation. Then, immediately following...Favreau was forced to put on his stockings and pumps then hit the corner.
I'm not really aware if this was an overall studio onslaught, or if Filoni specifically threw tantrums and spearheaded what would come afterward. Either way, frick Filoni and as much as I like Favreau, he simply can't be trusted around this material anymore.
>Favreau was forced
Favreau is a hack
That's very possible, as I said I don't know. That sucks since I kind of figured him to be a decent dude for some reason..
I wouldn’t.