1. Is having this many specialized trooper corps and divisions realistic? Would it make sense logistically to have all these different troopers with their different armor and equipment?
2. Which is your favorite? Both aesthetically and from what you've been them do in the films/shows.
3. If you were conscripted into the Imperial Military, which division or corps would you try to get into?
Here's a list for the pic related:
First row, left to right: Shock Trooper, Shadow Trooper, Death Trooper, Artillery Stormtrooper, Patrol Trooper, Snowtrooper
Second row, left to right: Shoretrooper, Sandtrooper, Wet-Weather Gear Stormtroopers, Range Trooper, Scout Trooper
Third row: Incinerator Trooper, Purge Trooper, Spacetrooper, Night Trooper
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Not that many for a galactic empire
There's more, I couldn't good pictures for them.
The patrol troopers, snowtroopers, sandtroopers, mudtroopers, space troopers, and possibly the shoretroopers and scout troopers as well, are more or less just the Empire equivalent of differently coloured camouflage for different situations. As far as I'm aware, there's nothing explicitly saying that they're all separate branches, divisions, or corps. Ones such as the shock troopers, death troopers, artillery troopers, scout troopers, flame troopers, and purge troopers are clearly much more specialised, and it would make sense for them to be their own divisions.
And I haven't seen Ahsoka, but from what I'm aware it seems the night troopers aren't an official part of the Empire or even have any standard uniform, so it doesn't really make sense to add them here if that's the case.
The Imperial Military is weird because they have three different was of classifying troopers: environmental specializations, combat specializations and "elites". But troopers can also be several of those things. Like a Range Trooper is both an "elite" division and a cold weather specialization, but there's also nothing saying they can't be Artillery or Incinerators or Snipers. Patrol Troopers are also specialized for urban environments and are more like the opposite of elites, they're just police. But what's stopping them from having specified "combat" roles? Like how there are police detectives and police SWAT teams and highway patrol. And don't get me started on rankings between divisions. Does a Stormtrooper Corporal rank the same as a Death Trooper Corporal? Apparently all Shoretroopers are apparently Corporals by default? Why?
Because shoretroopers are badass, because they can get droid assistance any time they want.
why do you all either want to be park rangers or the coast guard lmfao
less chance of dying
*lands on scariff in you're path*
the force is one and i'm one with the force *clubs u in the head with a stick*
Sandtroopers on Tatooine have the comfiest and safest job. They just ride Dewbacks all day and harass the locals from time to time. Most of the Shoretroopers got vaporized on Scarif. And Scout Troopers either get merc'd while riding their speeder bikes or get eaten by local wildlife.
until the sand people (or Black folk as i like to call them) sight them
Yeah but i don't think it ends well for the garrison on Tatooine because of their helmets on spikes during Mandalorian.
I always assumed they were marines from the vader's ship landed on the surface to find the plans
You don't? Shit's peak comfy.
Do you know what a Darktrooper is?
I said “scout” if I was rejected.
Darktrooper is the SPARTAN of Star Wars.
Well
Phase 0 are.
Darktroopers are cyborgs homie.
cyborg clone vets according to battlefront 1
Exactly. So are SPARTAN IIs. They literally had their bones reinforced with alloy in surgeries that killed a lot of the candidates.
Phase II are supposedly also cyborgs.
Phase III is a power suit.
The beskar version Gideon came up with is just a fancier Phase III enhanced with Mando toys. I tentatively call it “Phase IV” but don’t think that’s official.
Then they have the “battle droid” versions of Darktroopers like in Mando season 2; I’m not sure what the exact lore is on them.
Darktrooper lore has gotten to where it’s all over the place.
i like to imagine death troopers are just the old phase 1 darktroopers kept unnatrually alive by imperial tech and maybe some witchcraft
That’s a cool theory but I always saw them as the “Navy SEALS” of stormtroopers personally.
The recent Ahsoka finale did feature Death Troopers as undead but it also made it clear that Thrawn’s troops aren’t ALL undead. And I don’t know if the Empire just had night sisters “on call” any time they wanted to make a new batch of Death Troopers.
Phase 1 are droids. Phase 2 are cyborgs. Phase 3 are droids again.
Anyway the strictly best type are Shadowtroopers (not to be confused with Shadow Troopers, which are second best).
The original “Phase III” was the power suit worn by Mohc in Dark Forces. Not sure if the canon lore on that has changed. It’s all so confusing to me now tbh.
Maybe the droids like Gideon has are Phase IV, and his improved beskar power suit is phase V?
I’m too lazy to look at the wiki.
I just know that cyborgs and power suits are both still in the canon, even if Mohc’s suit isn’t canon anymore while Gideon’s is.
Mohc's suit was like 3.5 or something. The other 3s were droids, I'm pretty sure.
NuWars killed my interest but if I'm honest I miss liking Star Wars. It was a fun well designed comfy universe.
If my power level was high enough to cosplay and join one of those imaginary weekend legions I'd do Shoretrooper for sure.
Andor is the best Star Wars since Disney bought Lucasfilm and I'm sick of pretending it isn't. Maybe Mando S1 was alright but Andor does the war, family, hope, against all odds and all that shit that makes Star Wars cool right
No, you have to hate it.
>but Andor does the war,
No, it doesn't. A few local skirmishes involving two tie fighters at best, a platoon of troops and a riot isn't a war. Shut the frick up, moron.
The one thing the ST actually improved on is visuals, that CGI looks like shit
You could have said Rogue One and I would maybe agree with you that it looked good in some places. But ST? lol
The ST stuff is just mangled OT visuals that will never look good no matter how much computer power you put behind it.
RotS looks 1000x better.
501st Legion should have had red armor instead of the Shock Troopers.
Imagine how much more menacing the March on the Jedi Temple would have been with the fallen Anakin Skywalker leading what appeared to be a seemingly demonic army clad in red.
OK but what if they were zombie clones instead? Like the witches rose them to kill the jedi?? Filoni shouldve made the Prequel trilogy
There's plenty of red in the movie already.
No u
>dude the bad guys.. ARE IN LE RED!!
Shut up moron
I like the blue. It puts emphasis on Anakin too so there is cinematography reason for it too.
>The one thing the ST actually improved on is visuals
lmao no it did not. The ST looked like it was filmed by some amateur student using every camera trick in the book.
This looks like some elaborate larp, like a huge cosplay convention. It doesn't feel like Star Wars but rather like someone skinned it and put it on like a suit.
>Implying webm isn't a skirmish
My god this fricking screenshot looks bland and soulless.
That's the point moron
Blandor in a nutshell.
I agree with you, it was fantastic, dont know why Cinemaphile is hellbent on hating it
Armor is cool as frick so more types of armor = more cool.
Uhhhh Longbros!? Our response!?
>dogshit form
>dont get to see how far he pulls back
>not using an arrowhead made for piercing armour.
my compound bow would send an arrow right through that, then imagine trying to walk or move with a shard of broken wood and metal stuck in the armour and about 4 inches into your torso
Star wars is a toy commercial
Yes we know George, thank you.
I would volunteer to be a Darktrooper.
If rejected, Scout Trooper.
>Would it make sense logistically to have all these different troopers with their different armor and equipment?
They have to deal with thousands of unique alien species/creatures, all with their own attributes and temperaments. If anything this isnt nearly enough variation.
Obviously soldiers in different environments need different equipment but you probably dont want to make your elite fighters easily identifiable.
>you probably dont want to make your elite fighters easily identifiable
Unless you're trying instill fear in the enemy or confidence in your own troops. If I was a civilian living in the Outer Rim and a Death Trooper squad showed up I would be shittng myself.
1. Yes. The Empire has galactic resources.
2. Storm Commandos.
3. Scout Trooper.
I like shore troopers. They seem like the missing link between Imperial Army trooper and Stormtrooper.
I also think they look boss as frick.
Are Shoretroopers really their official name? Why the frick would you have an entire trooper type just for the beach? Those pants don't even look waterproof.
money laundering. palpatine had to hide those credits from the banking clan somewhere, just make a trooper for every biome. how do you think he built his pleasure palace on the death star? death star real estate aint cheap
I dunno.
Maybe there are a lot of beach planets?
They're actually called Coastal Defender Stormtroopers, which also doesn't fully describe their role. They're specialized for tropical environments, not just coasts. Although they mostly act as the coast guard or as squad leaders for regular Stormtroopers in tropical environments.
Should really be "littoral" but despite having all human knowledge at our fingertips, people's vocabularies seem to have shrunk.
Isn't the "trooper type" for littoral environments normally called a marine?
stormtroopers and snowtroopers? yeah, snowtroopers probably have comfy winter gear. "sandtroopers" are just stormtroopers with a backpack lmao, maybe its an AC backpack
its star wars man, they put much less thought into it than either of us have.
Choose your Zaku
WHAT. ARE YA DOIN. IN MA SWAHMP?
I forgot about those guys. I always played as them in multiplayer
For me it's the Hazard Trooper
FRICK these guys.
There is a severe lack of Mudtrooper kino, the WWI sequence from Solo should have been an entire series.
That's just Death Korps of Krieg.
>WWI sequence from Solo should have been an entire series
I still don't know why Disney hasn't made a show from the perspective of the Imperial Army. They do it with individual characters often enough: Migs Mayfeld, Han Solo, Cassian Andor, those two Scout Troopers in S1 of The Mandalorian. I would watch a slice of life / anthology series where each episode is what the life of each type of trooper is like. People would eat it up.
I would watch it in a heartbeat but it seems like ever since Orange man won an election the people in charge have thrown out all of the old “it’s good to be bad!” type marketing telling little girls they can be Sith if they want in favor of “EMPIRE BAD THEY’RE LITERALLY THE NAZIS!!!”
The Dark Horse comics had kino stories about life as an Imperial. It was much more nuanced.
On occasion we get flashes of that in some shows and stuff but it’s far more rare.
Because Imperial Army represents tyranny and oppression. Imperial army kills Luke's aunt and uncle and burns them possibly alive. Imperial army enforces Palpatine's satanic rule. The only Imperial stories that are doable are about those Imperials that realize it and defect. Those who don't defect are either ignorant of the Empire's doings, never heard of the Death Star and Alderaan, or just explicitly evil.
There are literally trillions of people in the Imperial military, frankly I'd wager the vast majority of them aren't evil.
Every western nation is also responsible for murdering innocents and wiping out noncombatant populations, but I guess if it's just some nowhere village it doesn't count.
>There are literally trillions of people in the Imperial military, frankly I'd wager the vast majority of them aren't evil.
If they keep serving in the Imperial army after the Death Star and Alderaan then they are all evil and complicit.
>Every western nation is also responsible for murdering innocents and wiping out noncombatant populations, but I guess if it's just some nowhere village it doesn't count.
Listen, kid. This ain't that kind of movie. Star Wars is about fighting oppression and tyranny, about fighting evil. Not about representing it and showing a slice of life of it. Like I said, the only Imperial stories that are doable in the framework of Star Wars are those of redemption and realizing that Empire sucks.
Oh, and also, Western nations aren't ruled by satanic wizards that are objectively evil within the setting of our reality, and they don't blow up planets just because there may be "rebels" there. Trying to apply moral grayness to Star Wars is such a futile exercise in moronation, it never ceases to be funny. Go watch the fricking movies. They are black and white.
>Western nations aren't ruled by satanic wizards that are objectively evil within the setting of our reality
Are you sure?
>If they keep serving in the Imperial army after the Death Star and Alderaan then they are all evil and complicit.
The Princess of Alderaan was working directly with rebels to overthrow the government. Would all those "evil and complicit" still be so if the Empire had glassed most of the planet from orbit before invading to fight a ground war to finish up further resistance?
>Trying to apply moral grayness to Star Wars is such a futile exercise in moronation, it never ceases to be funny. Go watch the fricking movies. They are black and white.
To the viewer yes. The average Imp isn't going to know about the Force wizards and all the absurd shit. The average person irl isn't even aware of the evil shit their own governments get up to even when it isn't covered up. You can absolutely depict more than black and white morality in an "obviously" evil empire.
Dumb Black person. Let's blow up earth because isis fighters are living here. Can you even begin to comprehend what it means destroying a planet? This is indefensible, the movie portray it as indefensible, and it is never meant to be indefensible. Of course, until some dumb moron in some shitty eu fanfic writes some stupid shit about death star ackchyually being built to repel some even more evil aliens from other galaxy.
>and it is never meant to be anything but indefensible
The scale of the galactic community makes it irrelevant you brainlet. Destroying your only planet is stupid. The movies show numerous planets with almost zero population, they aren't suffering from a lack of space. It takes like two seconds of thought to realize that one planet cannot be THAT important if Tarkin is happy to blow one up on a whim. Very few people gave a shit about a few million Iraqi and Syrian civilians dying as various governments bombed the region back a few centuries. The global community wasn't suffering economically from losing all those people either. The cost of Alderaans destruction was never even mentioned. Viewers only cared about Alderaan because Leia cared. Which is why no viewers gave a shit when the First Order did it again but worse. The fact that no one in any Star Wars movie has ever mentioned how the financial system has entered a free fall upon the destruction of all these planets means they can afford to lose them plus more. A Google search shows just how irrelevant Alderaan was.
>"The Empire had a population of >100 quadrilion, Alderaan killed about 2 billion people. That's a difference of 8 orders of magnitude (50 million), that's equivalent to killing ~140 earth humans."
Why would anyone in universe not directly involved actually give a shit? More people galaxy wide probably die in speeder accidents every second.
>If they keep serving in the Imperial army after the Death Star and Alderaan then they are all evil and complicit
In terms of relative scale Alderaan's destruction is exactly the same as the US bombing some village that has insurgents in it.
>Oh, and also, Western nations aren't ruled by satanic wizards that are objectively evil within the setting of our reality, and they don't blow up planets just because there may be "rebels" there. Trying to apply moral grayness to Star Wars is such a futile exercise in moronation, it never ceases to be funny. Go watch the fricking movies. They are black and white.
I'll always portray the Empire as good guys. Not much you can do to stop me, really.
>Those who don't defect are either ignorant of the Empire's doings, never heard of the Death Star and Alderaan, or just explicitly evil.
Have you watched Andor?
What about it? All the Imperials in Andor are either unapologetically, cartoonishly evil, or completely ignorant of the Empire's wrongdoings.
There is an Imperial Officer that ends up sacrificing himself in a hostage situation.
Disney genuinely avoids doing anything that paints the Empire in too sympathetic a light, or a story that has an unrepentant Imperial protagonist.
Remember EA's Battlefront II? They'd hyped up their story mode as being all about how an elite Imperial squad deals with the aftermath of ROTJ, and then like 4 missions into it you're rebelling
the campaign where you rebel was the cherry on top of everything else that game had on release
"look guys, we have the prequels!"
>2 heroes who never face each other, no obi-wan, anakin, dooku or grievous, 3 maps, no reinforcements for the republic that werent a copypaste wookiee that the other eras had
and thats ignoring the whole pay to win shit
im glad they fixed it, but it took up the majority of the games lifespan to fix
why the frick would you release the game with NO OBI-WAN OR ANAKIN
Need more Zero G troopers with their big helmets and tiny proton torpedo launchers.
1. No its stupid, elite troopers should just be trained for combat in all sorts of environments and provided equipment when necessary. To do otherwise makes zero sense, you'd have to specifiy entire squadrons of star destroyers by the specialized legions they carry
2. blackhole trooper or jet trooper
3. imperial technician/engineer corp
why are they all stormtroopers? that's a specific kind of soldier trained in assault tactics, even though 90% of them are military police and guards in the actual series
The Ermac palette swapped Snowtroopers turned into Galactic Marines were pretty neat.
kino outfit
>tfw no Galactic Empire ARC Troopers
How disappointing.
The Empire has cooler troops and ground vehicles but the rebels always had the cooler space ships
Empire has way cooler ships, rebels are cooler fighters/bombers
True, star destroyers are way more cool than the Rebels bringing medical frigates and transport ships to a space battle. What the frick is a hospital ship supposed to do during the battle of Endor?
Plus the Mon Cal ships were like converted cruise ships kek. The Endor battle looked cool, but it's like a US aircraft carrier group with cruisers, destroyers, and battleships going up against hospital ships, ocean liners, oil trankers, and giant cargo carriers
It happens. Sometimes you have to get STUFT.
Risky though as pic related sadly prove to be the case.
Whoah they have a giant pool in the center of the ship.
1.I'd say so because of how big the galaxy is.
2.Patrol trooper despite crashing in solo
3. The yellow Artillery trooper as I'd stay a distance away from battle to bomb the rebels.
Curse George for not commiting to the B-Wing bombing scene in RotJ
Que?
There was going to be a sequence where some B-wings blow up the Devastator at Endor which would have been poignant since that was Vader's ship in A New Hope. Apparently the blue screen tech couldn't handle the shape of the models or something presumably because of how thin the wings were, which doesn't really make much sense since the B-wings were shown in the movie anyway but just not fighting.
Lame. B-wings were some of my favs back then and awesome in the games. The bubble fighters reminded me of them
That intro scene really set up a good movie. Too bad there wasn't a good movie afterwards.
Star Wars Episode VI: B-Wing Fighter Model Featurette
At least the Rebel Assault game gave them the spotlight for a bit and also Rogue Leader but I still feel robbed.
for a galaxy wide taskforce on thousands of different planets, you might want more specialization. id imagine their organization is in the billions to cover this much territory. but its mainly to sell toys.
>he knows all their names
>probably owns plastic replicas
OP, I'm sorry. There's no hope for you. You'll never see a vegana.
For me, it's Shock Troopers
These guys, the clone assasins from the Revenge of the sith game
why are the posts in this thread mostly from the same incredibly autistic dude
just go back to one of the AI threads angry bore
Just a few anons talking about Star Wars on a Friday night. The Disney shills are gone for a couple months, get comfy or frick off.
no fun allowed
Several of these might just be small, elite units outside the regular Imperial military chain of command.
A majority of them are probably just standard troopers with specialized equipment for the theatre.
Also, I like the black ops dudes from Rogue One. They look the part.
>Come away with me. Help me raise our child. Leave everything else behind while we still can!
>I don't know you anymore! Anakin... you're breaking my heart! You're going down a path I can't follow!
>Because of what you've done... what you plan to do! Stop! Stop now... come back! I love you!
Your answer Cinemaphile?
No way gay
Technically speaking the empire only has three type of trooper armor
>snow
>Scout
>The general white
Rest of them are just later addin to have something different in the screen like the different clone troopers.
But for empire stromoooer, most of the type are just additional equipments like sand or jetpack
I would call them different type of trooper
>85% of these are moronic disney/filioni homosexual designs
Nice bait. Everything makes sense to a FRICKING moron
I hate how fat the stormtroopers are in all disney shit, they look like a bunch of cosplayers. bring back real OT troopers
They literally are cosplayers in the disney slop. It’s why all the costumes look like shit
Modern militaries have a dozen specialized divisions and subdivisions and they're just on Earth, it makes sense for a galactic military to have even more.
they do it to sell toys, its as simple as that
There are the imperial army troopers where the regular grunts go. They get sent to the shit fronts meatgrinder fronts like minban in the solo movie. Stormtroopers are supposed to be commandos.
didn't they eventually get phased out in favor of an all-stormtrooper military
WEG was a mistake.
Stormtroopers are space marines and interior guard / national guard
I am not a Star Wars fan so I don't know the context behind these uniforms. From aesthetic perspective I like the 2nd from the left in the middle row, the one with the leather shoulder the most. The red one on the top left is also okay. Everything else looks like overdesigned tacticool video game multiplayer shooter thing.
And it does make sense to have different kinds of uniforms. Consider how varied Earth environments are and add different gravity gradients or radiation exposure levels.
Fallschrimjagers had the best uniforms, SS can go suck Himmler's wiener.
I'm sick and tired of troopers. What about the civil administrative side of the Empire? Andor featured some Imperial court officials in brown uniforms which was cool.
I wonder if there was a centralized Imperial labor union or state-owned civil construction organizations.
Does the Empire charities? Is there an Imperial red-cross equivalent? Is there a civil aviation association the empire could conscript their pilots and academy cadets from?
The law enforcement in the Empire is also really interesting. For example, Coruscant (at least the last time I checked) still had its own police force, Ferrix and the rest of the Free Trade sector were policed by a corporate security force, and Niamos seems to be under occupation by the Imperial military.
So there are all these different police forces on different planets and no centralized Imperial police but an Imperial court system exists, but who knows if there also were local and corporate court systems.
From my understanding Patrol Troopers are the police, and the police are just part of the military command structure.
Ah, so it's like Gendarmerie type deal with them.
>So there are all these different police forces on different planets
most were probably holdouts from before the empire, as the republic wouldn't have its own police forces
>state-owned civil construction organizations.
they did take over some of the large companies making ships like TIEs and star destroyers, but they also needed plenty of slave/prison labor like andor, and probably a good amount of completely automated factories like the separatists
>could conscript their pilots and academy cadets from?
seems more like they just train people from scratch, like Biggs and Luke who joined up. Seems if you can fly a speeder your pretty close to flying a fighter
What was Palpatine's tax policy?
Probably fairly reasonable, honestly. It would almost have to be out of necessity to keep such a massive territory like half the galaxy in line.
How was the republic any better? Tarkin is the guy pushing for the Death Star and he was in the republic navy wasn’t he?
How the frick are people not nihilistically burned out on Star Slop yet? This shit's been milked soulless.
I can't stop seeing the unibrow on the stormtrooper helmets reeeeeeeeeeee