>Star Wars was saved in editing
>Lucas just directed the scenes, it was his wife who had to stitch them together to form the movie, she's the one responsible for Star Wars, not him
This is a world renowned filmmaker
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>Star Wars was saved in editing
Space Cop couldn’t even be saved in editing lol
So I've never watched Space Cop. Is it just a goofy movie where it's purposefully terrible and they're just having fun with it, or did they actually try to make it a good movie?
Idk but The Recovered was even worse
>it is just a goofy movie
literally everyone when it came out mocked it because it failed at even being shlock, it was so bad even the usual "its on purpose" failed which is why it flopped even with their subscribers
>theyre just having fun guise
redditor fanboy always say weird shit like that to defend a bad result, you can have fun eating your shit too, doesnt mean the worlds gonna clap
I think you misunderstand how these kinds of people operate. They have no idea what they tried to make. Was it meant to be bad and good, or meant to be bad and bad, or not meant to be bad and good, or not meant to be good and bad? They literally have no idea what the frick they're doing. Literally none. The idea that they had some vision, any vision, or the capacity for vision, or anything like that, is wrong. Fundamentally wrong.
The original trailer they made years before was goofy and purposely bad but funny.
The full movie was just boring and had less funny versions of all the jokes that were in the trailer, without adding anything of value.
I’m an RLMdrone and even I couldn’t stomach Space Cop. So ya, it’s bad. It wouldn’t even be good enough to be on a Best of the Worst.
I also like his other video where he points out how the kino George Lucas trilogy was replaced with JJ abrams disney wars. basically JJ is a blind dumb fanboy exactly like Mike. No wonder he was his choice.
>another video essay as long as the fricking movie it's critiquing
yeah nah, frick off
This is a good video. 99% of videos linked from here I shut off after about 10 seconds when I can tell the creator is moronic.
It absolutely wrecks anyone who thinks "Star Wars was saved in the edit." Frankly, you shouldn't need the video to recognize what a crock of shit those claims are. You're already pretty dumb to believe it in the first place just knowing anything about how reality works. But this video makes you the stupidest fricking buck-broken Black person to ever walk the earth and it's hilarious. It's very well-researched and the arguments are presented in a clear and straightforward manner with occasional diversions into humor that is basically impossible to avoid when debunking claims this moronic.
stick to tiktok 15 second trash content, moronic baboon
2 HOURS
Based
Plinkett reviews were just as long while having much less to say..
2hrs is not 70 minutes
There’s like 17 plinkett videos
Yes, very good video
RLM on binge drinking suicide watch
Already 18 minutes in and this video is hilariously spot on.
I wish this guy could have made his point in half an hour so I could educate all the mouth breathers with his video.
good video, it's a shame people on this board are so offended by thorough content
Mike Stupidklasa
Has Mike ever seen American Graffiti or THX 1138
>George wrote everything and oversaw all editing, special effects and directed the whole movie but he is a dumb dumb doo doo head who had like nothing to do with star wars.
>his wife who worked on a couple scenes, one of which was cut out of the basically invented star wars
>JJ abrams should have directed star wars
Watch the Obi-Wan review. Mike explains why Lucas is an awful director and Star Wars is only good when he's not in charge (eg: Original Trilogy)
No self-respecting human would ever listen to what a film critic has to say about anything
>No self-respecting human would listen to what a scientist has to say! Einstein can suck my wiener, I know more about life than him because he just says theories rather than truths! Vaccines are just bullshit!
This is what you sound like
Mike is known as one of the world's greatest film scientists and you ignore him because you think your opinion matters more than his actual intellectual facts
>comparing people who do nothing but complain about movies to scientists
Poor bait
not only scientists are lying morons but also doctors, politicians, musicians, actors, anyone ever given monetary reasons to deceive the public.
Lucas was in charge of everything lmao, he hired the editors and told them what to cut
i wanna FRICK that furry girl
Mike is wrong, and an embarrassingly bad critic.
Their silence is deafening.
Disney historical revisionism designed to smear Lucas' legacy to make the shit Disney movies look better
Daily reminder that Disney officialy OWNS Reddit Retter Media and israelite Chudklasa
Seriously just look at the innocence and hope that young Mike had in his eyes. His entire future is ahead of him where things can only go up!
Now look at that sad sack of shit on the right. The regret and sorrow of a man dying slowly on the inside. Wishing he can get the last 20 years of his life back.
How exactly did this happen? Do you think he feels at least slightly guilty for the state star wars is in?
>How exactly did this happen?
It happens to almost everybody. It will happen to you.
>cringe moronic femcel tries to defend drunk moron autist online because she thinks hes her personal friend
The youtuber is not your friend femcel, you will die alone and viriginal and every youtuber you like would be disgusted to look at you since youre a fat femcel twitter user
you are also not allowed on Cinemaphile
His career is making youtube videos he despises for people he despises and even worse his glory days were making videos he's embarrassed of.
Not a way to live
Headcanon much? He's just old and has shitty health choices. The picture is literally cherrypicked. You selected a frame where you could project all the negative feelings you want. Does he spend all his videos without smiling or laughing?
imagine not knowing what a Hollywood editor is? Literally Lucas just yelling at his wife to chop up the film
third day in a row seething over RLM
cope
third day? the seething has never ceased since the plinkett videos were released over a decade ago. milliennial manbabies have a VERY strong attachment to the prequels and their cultlike veneration for lucas and they won't let facts and logic get in the way of it.
go ahead and post your memes folder while struggling through tears
Okay
cope
Don't forget:
>exposition
theyve gone too far on hating Lucas, they need to take some psychedelics in order to experience ego death
no they haven't, i do wish they would stop showing clips of the prequels though, each time I have to watch even a second of that garbage cgi fest I feel like puking
sup mike, how does the cukking felt like, knowing loneliness and misery waits and your legacy to life was ruining a kids movie series that you nostalgiagayged about
homie please youre stepping to some real muthaphuckin Gs
Mike is a fat moron and should be put in an asylum.
>This is a world renowned filmmaker
No he's not. He's a fat autist known to small internet crowds.
I remember watching the review of Titanic where he started spouting off about what James Cameron had got wrong and how he could have made a better movie.
You have to wonder, did nobody say to him: "Mike, this was, for a relatively long period, the most successful movie ever. James Cameron made some documentaries, then followed it up by making Avatar, which was the most successful movie ever. I think James Cameron knows what the frick he's doing and why. Why don't you start from there?"
It's also interesting that they rag on execs and committee driven media. Because if for some reason you put any of these chucklefricks into a suit and gave them a high up job in a film studio? They would be exactly the worst kind of meddling exec. They can't make a good movie themselves, but by god do they have opinions on how the people who do could make them better.
It's ironic how they hate entirely auteur made films like the prequels but then love executive committee crap like force awakens.
>It's also interesting that they rag on execs and committee driven media. Because if for some reason you put any of these chucklefricks into a suit and gave them a high up job in a film studio? They would be exactly the worst kind of meddling exec. They can't make a good movie themselves, but by god do they have opinions on how the people who do could make them better.
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their understanding of movies is on pair with an average executive, they have the executive/editor comples of "too moronic and talentless to make real art but thinks he can do better by reediting someone else's into something worse"
His understanding of movies is this very basic, "feelings" based understanding of script making where every single movie or series is like a macdonalds burger that follows the exact same bland formula and otherwise its bad, theyre massive hacks on anything but video editing.
Every time Mike tries to improve a movie, he makes it even worse.
>Plinkett reviews were just as long while having much less to say...
>Yes, I love soi wars... how could you tell?
>defending pinklett when he shilled tfa, jay shilled tlj and they only turned on it after they realized they would lose their audience if they outed themselves as disney shills like they do to marvel
disney shill pls
I used to like RLM's criticisms of movies but now that I've grown up, I've realized how stupid and reductive a lot of his points. It really shows in influencing other shitty movie reviewing Youtubers. Their perception of art is inherently limited and formed by nothing but pop culture. Which is fine, except for when you try to start gatekeeping art based on your own ignorance.
For me, it was all about laziness. My wife was constantly wanting to frick, but I simply couldn't be bothered. For example, at the time, I was raiding Serpentshrine Cavern, and we were making a real effort to server first, and to take time away from my own interests just because she needed an orgasm wasn't anything I was interested in. (She was quite selfish, and not just about orgasms. She would always eat more than half of a pizza. I never said a word.) I know for some people it's a fetish, but for me, it was just about shutting her up. She'd be getting drilled in the next room, and I'd be in my office, on vent, doing my thing with the guild, and every once in a while I'd need to go in (like in OP's pic) in order to say something provocative, like
>yeah, pound her fricking pussy you Black person
or
>you're such a fricking cumbawd for Black person cum, aren't you, you fricking prostitute
and then I'd go back into my office and get to the serious business of downing Vashj, which was fricking tricky before the nerf.
You sound more pretentious than rlm
Who said all movies need to have "intellectual value"? Do you think every painting has "intellectual value"? It's a visual medium and a movie can simply be an experience meant to look aesthetically pleasing to the director and convey a range of emotions.
What if I don't necessarily always give a shit about your aesop morality tales and I just wanna make a movie that conveys my feelings, or perfects a certain production technique?
Your perception of art is inherently limited and formed by nothing but pop culture. Which is fine, except for when you try to start gatekeeping art based on your own ignorance.
Tell me, do all paintings have plots? Do sculptures? Does all music have a "plot"? No? Then why should all movies follow this completely arbitrary rule? That's limiting what the medium is capable of expressing.
rlm isn’t pretentious just low IQ
Lol they are both, a really bad mix. That’s why their “praise” for many intellectual movies is always
>I loved this movie because it was boring!
They have no insight into why it’s good, just that it bored them so it must be good
He loved kenobi which is poorly made and relies entirely on fan service but called people who liked rogue one morons for enjoying seeing x-wings and at-stay again
At-st* phonegayging
Star Wars was saved in the editing but this quote is always misunderstood. By saved in the editing, it means in reference to the special effects. Imagine watching a cut of SW without lightsaber effects, blaster shots, the scifi sound effects, James Earl Jones' voice, the ILM spaceship footage and all these other things. It would be a typical 70s low budget piece of shit.
George intended for all that to be in the movie though.
The actors didn't it know it when they were filming, or the staff at London. They thought the movie was a joke.
who cares what some annoying pissed off british homosexuals think? Did they really expect the final movie to be guys playing with sticks and pretending to shoot each other? Decision made before shooting that indicate George knew what he was doing and planned it from the beginning and his movie wasn't saved in the edit.
Ben Burtt designed the sound, John Williams composed the music, Ralph McQuarrie designed the look of Star Wars and ILM did the work while George approved it. You give him FAR too much credit. He absolutely did not have these things in his head.
Yeah, watching the documentaries for the prequels (which are amazing) and seeing George saunter into a room of a bunch of art and props laid out before him, all made by artists in their own right, and him looking at them for one second each, and putting his little stamp on them... it was pretty eye-opening just how little he had to do with the whole thing.
And yet the sequels demonstrate how important that little bit of work is
Yeah exactly. Look at how clever this clueless homosexual thinks he is:
Out-of-context quote that includes nothing about the broad guidelines or details from the original request that would obviously still hold to any professional with half a brain in their head. The original design turned out looking too much like some other movie (2001 Space Odyssey I think). Lucas (wisely) wanted it to look different, and since he knows what he's doing visually, he understands the importance of simple but unique shapes.
Lucas has been quite open about the importance of Williams' contribution to his movies. I believe there's a quote something like "ok John, save my movie." But even then, the original inspirations for the music came from Lucas (Korngold, Holst, Stravinsky, etc). Contrast to the way modern blockbuster directors just copy other movies that already exist using generic rhythms and dissonances. JJ Abrams even managed to make John Williams sound bland and unmemorable in TFA.
Are you making the argument that the design for the Falcon is George's doing because some other person did literally all of it, but George said, "No" and then said "Yes" to the second design? Because that is indefensibly adolescent. I guess this helps to you be a VISIONARY ARTIST because you have curated your Funko Pop collection, but it doesn't dovetail well with the reality that Star Wars was made by a team of talented individuals.
>Are you making the argument that the design for the Falcon is George's doing
No, my point is that you are an idiot and don't understand the role of a leader. You will never be a leader and top-talent artists will never work for you.
Prequels suck for many reasons, some that RLM gets right, but they are absolutely wrong about the editing shit and just fell for low-effort Lucas-bashing because it plays on their prejudice.
> No, my point is that you are an idiot and don't understand the role of a leader. You will never be a leader and top-talent artists will never work for you.
Yeah that’s literally how the creative process works
> give artist a blank cheque to design something with a vague concept of what you want
>they come back with some concepts and you hand them back some notes on how’d you like the design refined
>rinse and repeat until you’ve come up with something that fits your vision
It's hard to believe that there are two people so fricking stupid in one thread, so I'm going to assume you're samegayging, but if you can allow the idea that John Williams' score made Star Wars better, of which there can be basically zero doubt, then why is it so impossible for you to extrapolate that same consideration to the fricking miniature-makers, prop-designers, and the rest of the visual artists? The frick are you morons even trying to argue?! Seriously.
I perfectly understand the role of a leader, but you seem to think that a leader should get all of the credit for the work of the people who work with him, which is... bizarre.
Lol yeah he should have done all the work himself, what a hack. Mike and Jay do all their visionary special effects themselves
It's weird to me that I have to explain to you shitlord autists that a movie is not a novel, with one of the differences being that movies require hundreds of artists, of which a director is one, in order to accomplish a worthwhile and lasting work. Are you trolling? Dense? Both? The frick are you even trying to say?
I’m saying your gay lmfao also prequels were kino
I prefer the prequels to the OT, and I don't believe for a second that Star Wars was "saved in the edit." So... ? What the frick?
Don’t care, prequels were kino, Mike Suckswienersla is a bad person
yeah why wasnt George an elite classical composer like John Williams, what a jerk!
I've done a bit of world-building for a project, and I've designed things for the world I built, and have made the music, so I'm not exactly speaking out my ass. I loved the prequels, and I'm not saying George isn't a capable manager, but the idea that the Star Wars that most people love is solely HIS creation does a huge disservice to the people who actually designed and made the Falcon, R2, 3P0, etc.
Star Wars is a story, Anon. The X-wings and AT-STs and all that stuff is just decoration on a plot device. Your interpretation of the props as being the important part is the same mistake that Disney writers made when they shit out a soulless trilogy that was just fan service scenarios with nostaligic visuals.
Star Wars is a movie, not a story. And a movie doesn't rely entirely on the story, or else it would be a story, and not a movie. Cheers.
fricking homosexual
lmao this is just sad. John Williams making a great score is now a bad thing? Directors never make their own scores
Listen to what all those people have to say about George Lucas. He told them what to do and they did it.
Retro futurism was his idea, George chose the composer and told him how to make it sound. This is all besides the point though, what movie has the director compose and do al lteh VFXs himself? He invested into ILM with his own money it's his company. You don't give him nearly enough credit my man. Imagine the man who made this all come together was actually a hack fraud. What level of RLMer cope is this??
>The movie looks bad when you take out effects and sounds and designs George all INTENDED to be in the final movie. Yeah anon totally I'm sure all those artists working with literally anybody else would have crated the star wars magic
cope and sneethe RLMer. saved in the edit has been debunked.
>watch several hours of RLM a month
>won't watch a single hour and a half video that explains George Lucas' direct involvement creating star wars.
>chose the composer and told him how to make it sound
This might be the single stupidest thing I have read in my 34 years on the internet.
"star wars was saved in editing" - mike stoklasa
"daisy ridley is charismatic as hell" - jay bauman
"solo: a star wars story was the best star wars movie since return of the jedi (until the release of Obi-Wan Kenobi" - rich evans
"I fricking love MovieBlob" - Jack Packard"
"Should be, should be" - "The Wizard" thoughts on if Harvey Weinstein should be in jail while ruining a great joke between Jay and Rich.
gay blowsmen is the worst
Prequels are still awful
Special Editions are still awful
Plinkett's silence is deafening.
>saved in the editing
I fricking hate this stupid meme parroted by people who don't understand the creative process.
If you think star wars was saved in the edit, you're functionally moronic and watching that video isn't going to save you.
RotS Anakin is peak hairkino. I could have mine exactly like that.
jay is such a gay
This butthole is one of the reasons Disney owns Star Wars now, I’m sure Lucas watched the plinkett reviews and it probably cut him deeply. The man cared about the fans and this fat frick turned them against Lucas
If Lucas actually sold Star Wars because of the reviews it would be one of the funniest things ever. He’s a multi billionaire.
He basically said it himself, google it
That just makes him a massive loser.
>massive loser
>richer than anyone in this thread combined, as all as anyone mentioned ITT
>created multiple iconic films
Sounds like a winner
>bunch of man babies accuse you of ruining your childhood
> give them the finger and sell your franchise off to Disney so they can ruin it even worse than you did
>enjoy retirement with a a few extra billions in the old bank account
Sounds based to me
If an alcoholic Wisconsin bullies you into selling your franchise to white slavers then yes you are a loser.
I'm sure he's crying into those 100 dollar bills right now
The butthurt of prequelgays is severe, I wonder how many generations will be damaged
>can’t even argue in favor of RLM anymore
Kek
>likes jj trek
>hates STD and SPIC
>>Star Wars was saved in editing
Yup. Lucas fricked it up with the special editions putting Jabba back in. The orignal editor knew what they were doing.
This. The director that hired and directed the original movies had no idea what he was doing, Space Cop is much better because Mike didn’t need editors to save his masterpiece.
Space Cop is even worse than the prequels.
Wow go back to r/PrequelMemes, Mike is a genius
Is this the 21st century cinema controversy equivalent to 'Orson Welles wasn't the one writing Citizen Kane' narrative?
i really wanted to join this thread but after looking through it. there is just so many hatefilled schizos obsessed with rlm its not worth it
It really is pathetic how fat, old, and unaccomplished they are now.
>plan for your movie to have space ship, laser effects and music
>as director hire the best people to do those effects and compose the best music (had to fire original editor because didn't make movie you wanted hired, Marcia Lucas and crew instead)
>they make effects you planned to have in movie (under your watchful eye and supervision of course)
>release movie
>umm actually star wars was saved in the edit even though he came up with darth vader, the empire, luke skywalker, tatooine, alderaan, Leia, chewbacca, han solo, x-wings, r2-d2, impercial crusiers, death star, grand moff tarkin, jedi, lightsabers, obi-wan kenobi invested into ILM, told the artists how to make it look, chose who to edit the movie and helped them edit the movie, told the composer how to make the music sound and feel, oversaw direction, wrote 100% of the script
>.....ackshuallllyyyyy.... star wars was saved in the edit and good DESPITE George Lucas not solely 100% entirely because of him
Apologize.
rocket jump is not red letter , i know its confusing , but the video you want one of us to reference and since im late to the game ost likly someone already posted it ,
reddit letter media believes in saved in the edit too.
It's crazy the SW fanbase is so big that we have doctrines now. What should we call the morons that bough Rocket Jump's slop?
yeah but the video
is critiquing rocket jump . op wanted to get someone to post it so we can talk about it and its rocket jump university who made the video that video is critiquing . Also i know posting mikes stupid face is guarantee engagement .
video is pretty good taking a look at the other two tonight ,
Daisy Ridley is charismatic as frick in those movies!
they should of made REy an aspie , would of been cute when finally letting ben hug and kiss her in the end .