Why does the Federal government deserve money Tony earned, illegally or not? Most of his income is from illegal gambling, at most they should tax him as a casino and call it a day.
Would Carmella really be taken care of if Tony died?
I got the impression from Tony he really didnt have anything in place. She had every right to be freaked out money in case something happened.
Initially they could have given her money but it wouldn't take long for everyone to figure out she had no power or influence to ensure continued payments and she'd get ghosted
Ginny Sac got all her shit taken by the feds, she had MUH SPECKHOUSE as a decent investment in 2006, but the housing market crashed in 2008 so she probably would have sold it at a huge loss. There was nobody left in the jersey crew that could, or would take care of her. Paulie was home invading and murdering old ladies for their matress money at that point.
no, that was the point of showing Pussy's wife handing out samples at the store and then having her start her own business which Carmela wouldn't be competent enough to do
New Jersey pretty much didn’t exist as a family by the end of the show, almost all the management was dead. If Tony died New York would have absorbed the rest of that pygmy thing and no one would have given Carm a second thought.
>get cheated on constantly >has to care for a depressed obese man having regular strokes >gets lied to >is promised that Tony would invest in their future, never happens >has her friends get their husband assassinated and left with nothing >get yelled at for trivial shit like not closing the door >cooks delicious baked zitty >never cheated on Tony despite genuine attraction towards an Italian gentleman
Carmela was a saint. Everyone ITT is an incel.
>>get cheated on constantly >>has to care for a depressed obese man having regular strokes
hardly does anything despite being a housewife they have a full time maid >>gets lied to >>is promised that Tony would invest in their future, never happens
she gets lots of money to spend doesn't really care
also he did start the fund which her cousin got him into >>has her friends get their husband assassinated and left with nothing >>get yelled at for trivial shit like not closing the door
eh
delicious baked zitty
only thing she actually did in the house
cheated on Tony despite genuine attraction towards an Italian gentleman
eh the dude walked away once he realized what her husband was doing to his sister's husband
it was not upto her neither the thing with furio
>it's ok that she gets abused because her husband provides for the family
Considering Tony would never let her get a job, him providing is not even the bare minimum, it's a requirement. She was a saint.
nah she was just helpless >wants to be strong independent womyn >can't help herself getting latched to either her husband or father >can't deal with goomars either even tho it's part of the deal >get's told straight up that she should leave husband, can't do it >later gets jelly of angie who actually becomes a strong independent womyn after pussy dies >seethes when even meadow's party friend hunter gets into medical school despite her degenerate lifestyle, realizes there is hope for everybody except her
>nearly cheating with a man taking advantage of her vs routinely cheating with prostitutes and going out of his way to seduce people he barely met
mmmmmmmmh
Being unfaithful is bad no matter who you are. She also chose that life and knew about his infidelities. He never had the makings of a varsity athlete anyways.
2 years ago
Anonymous
she didn't chose to be cheated on lol. Not everyone in the mob was a cheating bastard anyways >i-it's bad no matter what!
yeah jerking it to porn is comparable to becoming a prostitute with that logic
2 years ago
Anonymous
Imagine defending Carmela. Next you'll say AJ is a hero and Ralphie is a role model lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
>imagine defending someone who did nothing wrong >next you'll say a psychopathic murderer is a role model
Engage with my arguments instead of strawmanning, will you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Great. Lets go back to MY point. They're both flawed. Tony's worse.
Carmela is materialistic and superficial who failed at being a good wife and a parent. Only showed appreciation for Tony is when he brought gifts for her. When divorcing she tried to get as much money as posible from him knowing WHERE it came from and the lack of work she put in to have a claim to that. Blood money and her life of luxury came from it. When she realized she couldn't get all of it she came crawling back. She could have had a decent middle class job didn't she take business admin at Rutgers or some shit. Let's build a spec house and buy a shore house on your corrupt dime.
As a parent she failed to raise AJ-Tony equally guilty. Her manipulations for both AJ and Meadow showed how she'd frick over anyone to get a good college recommendation.
She thought she was above it all because of her faith. That's not how Catholicism works. You don't overlook sin and evil and still benefit from it.
I'm sure she'd want him out of that life esp when he was in the coma she reminisced about better times but she let him continue. Any woman marrying a mob-connected man KNOWS what they're signing up for. There will be infidelity and shit you have to put up with.
Tony's a murderer, womanizer, criminal but is still sympathetic in ways. He does good shit for his family (if not anyone else), often.
Carmela it's basically here's a fur coat. Here's a car. Here's money for your spec house. Her love swings on the money.
2 years ago
Anonymous
nta but lots of words when saying "I'm an incel" would have conveyed the same amount of information
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's right and you're too stupid to have a reasonable conversation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Great. Lets go back to MY point. They're both flawed. Tony's worse.
Carmela is materialistic and superficial who failed at being a good wife and a parent. Only showed appreciation for Tony is when he brought gifts for her. When divorcing she tried to get as much money as posible from him knowing WHERE it came from and the lack of work she put in to have a claim to that. Blood money and her life of luxury came from it. When she realized she couldn't get all of it she came crawling back. She could have had a decent middle class job didn't she take business admin at Rutgers or some shit. Let's build a spec house and buy a shore house on your corrupt dime.
As a parent she failed to raise AJ-Tony equally guilty. Her manipulations for both AJ and Meadow showed how she'd frick over anyone to get a good college recommendation.
She thought she was above it all because of her faith. That's not how Catholicism works. You don't overlook sin and evil and still benefit from it.
I'm sure she'd want him out of that life esp when he was in the coma she reminisced about better times but she let him continue. Any woman marrying a mob-connected man KNOWS what they're signing up for. There will be infidelity and shit you have to put up with.
Tony's a murderer, womanizer, criminal but is still sympathetic in ways. He does good shit for his family (if not anyone else), often.
Carmela it's basically here's a fur coat. Here's a car. Here's money for your spec house. Her love swings on the money.
samegay
2 years ago
Anonymous
cope.
2 years ago
Anonymous
right back atcha
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lolwat. I'm literally not the same guy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
do you live under the same roof as him then?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Doubt it if he's a wop with relatives in the mob and I'm some Irish farmer's descendant living in Canada.
2 years ago
Anonymous
IT'S THE CANADIAN MOB. BIG DEALS ON POUTINE BRO DIDN'T YOU KNOW
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The only explanation for how New York found Tony is that Carmella told them (she goes in, saying she's going to ask where everyone wants to go for dinner, then quickly comes out despite having to call Meadow and AJ, meaning she knew where they were going ahead of time when nobody else knew where Tony was) or Meadow told her boyfriend (Patsy's son) and Patsy was working with New York and put in the hit.
Unlikely that Paulie was involved, highly likely that Patsy at least signed off on everything and was made the new boss. What's most likely is that Carmella finally had enough and the last fight was the straw that broke the camels back.
I think it was just other warring factions getting revenge at that point. He was still too visible and not being as safe as he once was by the end of the show.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The 'ol incel argument when I'm married with kids.
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samegay
Nah bro.
I always felt bad for her that even as the mob bosses wife, she wasn't jetting off to Miami with the girls or anything. She never even went to Italy. She only went to Paris because she won a raffle. Furthermore, people say AJ was spoiled, but he never had cash. He had to sell his drums just go to a bar. As a spoiled mob boss's son, he should've been throwing cash out the window of high speed chases and shit.
She's sympathetic too tbh. It's not what a wife deserves and this is coming from an Italian, Catholic AND someone who has relatives who are definitely in the mob.
>She tells New York where Tony is going in the final episode all because he was tired of paying for her wasting money on a dream home she wanted to sell
what a b***h.
That would be hilarious. If he did take a bullet to the head would be sad to think what would have become of her like Ginny or Pussy's wife.
>I should marry a murderer and expect everything to turn out fine
why do women do this? the cheating should've been the least of her worries. her children are at the risk of becoming fatherless at any moment.
2 years ago
Anonymous
There is no evidence that Tony was a murderer when they got married, let alone that she knew of his methods. >her children are at the risk of becoming fatherless at any moment.
and when she raises that issue, she gets empty promises and Tony bets money away
2 years ago
Anonymous
He committed his first murder when he was 23. That would've been in about 1982. In Knight in White Satin Armor, Tony mentions he's been married to Carmela for 17 years. That would mean they got married around 1982/1983 since the episode aired in 2000.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He committed his first murder when he was 23. That would've been in about 1982. In Knight in White Satin Armor, Tony mentions he's been married to Carmela for 17 years. That would mean they got married around 1982/1983 since the episode aired in 2000.
But no, she absolutely knew who Tony was considering she was related to Dickie Moltisanti. There's an entire scene calling her out on it. They didn't make it vague.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The mafia women talk about it at some point. They all knew what they were getting into, they still wanted the money, influence, and the powerful men that came along with it. You don't think for a second that women like this are concerned about how this affects their children, do you? Their culture expects them to have kids and they wanted to play house while also living the good life. That's it. They weren't thrown into this like Skylar White, they all chose this.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Skylar White
the single reason why I never re watched breaking bad
I always felt bad for her that even as the mob bosses wife, she wasn't jetting off to Miami with the girls or anything. She never even went to Italy. She only went to Paris because she won a raffle. Furthermore, people say AJ was spoiled, but he never had cash. He had to sell his drums just go to a bar. As a spoiled mob boss's son, he should've been throwing cash out the window of high speed chases and shit.
Besides Tony holding on to all the money, they just weren't that loaded. They're living the same life style as their upper class dentist and therapist neighbours and in later season, money is even tighter because the feds are closing in.
>She tells New York where Tony is going in the final episode all because he was tired of paying for her wasting money on a dream home she wanted to sell
I always had sympathy for Christopher and Bobby. Both prob shouldn't have been in that life. Chris always had his dad to live up to who was a piece of shit too. Bobby was usually trying to do the right thing but long enough timeline you get pulled into it all.
There was one other person who wore a members only jacket, Eugene Pontecorvo, the guy who hung himself after Tony wouldn't let him move to Florida. He ALWAYS had it on. Why, out of EVERYONE in the show, background characters, etc, is Members Only jacket man the only man wearing a Members Only jacket besides Eugene? My guess is he had confided in a cousin or family member and this was revenge.
I don't really like that theory, but maybe. To me, I think it was just symbolic of Gene's memory and all the needlessly cruel things Tony had done over the course of his life.
I don't really like that theory, but maybe. To me, I think it was just symbolic of Gene's memory and all the needlessly cruel things Tony had done over the course of his life.
Also, Richie wears a member's only jacket and i think a few other characters do as well over the course of the show. Pretty standard wiseguy attire.
>Eugene Pontecorvo
i think it's not that complicated - Pontecorvo was wearing the members only jacket when he assassinated a guy in a restaurant earlier in the season, it's that simple of a connection.
The 'ol incel argument when I'm married with kids.
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Nah bro.
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She's sympathetic too tbh. It's not what a wife deserves and this is coming from an Italian, Catholic AND someone who has relatives who are definitely in the mob.
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That would be hilarious. If he did take a bullet to the head would be sad to think what would have become of her like Ginny or Pussy's wife.
The only explanation for how New York found Tony is that Carmella told them (she goes in, saying she's going to ask where everyone wants to go for dinner, then quickly comes out despite having to call Meadow and AJ, meaning she knew where they were going ahead of time when nobody else knew where Tony was) or Meadow told her boyfriend (Patsy's son) and Patsy was working with New York and put in the hit.
Unlikely that Paulie was involved, highly likely that Patsy at least signed off on everything and was made the new boss. What's most likely is that Carmella finally had enough and the last fight was the straw that broke the camels back.
Always figured it was the other new york families looking to just put the whole thing to bed, whatever anyone thought of the lupertazzi power vacuum, a jersey outfit whacked a five families boss, when johnny sack pitched this very idea to tony in season 5 he told him that he'd need to smooth things over with the other families.
tfw you have to find a new place to hide your ill-begotten money because all the cops know to look in birdfeeders now
>this makes avians everywhere shit and piss themselves
Legally speaking it is half of her money
it was money from illegal activities. legally speaking, it all would have belonged to the feds.
Why does the Federal government deserve money Tony earned, illegally or not? Most of his income is from illegal gambling, at most they should tax him as a casino and call it a day.
Asset forfeiture laws are big in organized crime cases, and to a certain degree is the government wanting their cut.
Legally speaking she can sleep in a fricking dumpster
what exactly does Carmella contribute to Tony's various enterprises that entitles her to half his money? she cooks dinner?
birdfeeder? you sound demented
Would Carmella really be taken care of if Tony died?
I got the impression from Tony he really didnt have anything in place. She had every right to be freaked out money in case something happened.
Frick no.
absolute worst case scenario she could simply sell 15 aspen drive, north caldwell NJ 07006, USA (last sale price 3.4m)
You sure that's the right house?
Initially they could have given her money but it wouldn't take long for everyone to figure out she had no power or influence to ensure continued payments and she'd get ghosted
Ginny Sac got all her shit taken by the feds, she had MUH SPECKHOUSE as a decent investment in 2006, but the housing market crashed in 2008 so she probably would have sold it at a huge loss. There was nobody left in the jersey crew that could, or would take care of her. Paulie was home invading and murdering old ladies for their matress money at that point.
but she already sold the house to cousin bryan
>but she already sold the house to cousin bryan
Oh shit your right. Respect to your level of Soprautism
>capicola
>gabagool
they are not even the same words
>chrissy buys moseratti from ginny
>it gets taken
Nah, the episode were Vito and Paulie debate giving anything to her when Tony is in a coma pretty much confirms it.
no, that was the point of showing Pussy's wife handing out samples at the store and then having her start her own business which Carmela wouldn't be competent enough to do
Right she ended up making something of herself because she was a go getter. Carmela just fricked around with a spec house in the woods.
that's why she became nurse jackie
I imagined that was Carmela's life after lol pill junkie
Absolutely not, Tone was just in a coma and Vito didn't want to pay up, if/when he dies she's up a creek
New Jersey pretty much didn’t exist as a family by the end of the show, almost all the management was dead. If Tony died New York would have absorbed the rest of that pygmy thing and no one would have given Carm a second thought.
Wasn't that the point off his offshore shit in later seasons?
I wanted to frick her in the ass. Anyone else?
You were on your own there, bud.
Definitely, she was really sexy.
She looks like the type who secretly wants it in the ass but pretends to be hesitant
Same but in the pussy
she was hotter in s1 of Nurse Jackie
always a little bit interested in what she had going on, she's shows basically nothing in TS or Oz.
is it the manface?
Carmella can you please stop doing POOOOOOOOOOOOOOORN
BADA BING
name
Jenna Tolls
Gabbi Gool
She had a great ass
Same, she got me into hotviwes and cuckold porn..
AND DON'T FRICKIN DENY AGAIN
>get cheated on constantly
>has to care for a depressed obese man having regular strokes
>gets lied to
>is promised that Tony would invest in their future, never happens
>has her friends get their husband assassinated and left with nothing
>get yelled at for trivial shit like not closing the door
>cooks delicious baked zitty
>never cheated on Tony despite genuine attraction towards an Italian gentleman
Carmela was a saint. Everyone ITT is an incel.
No one is denying this. With the exception of marrying a man who she knew was in organized crime, she did literally nothing wrong.
she was very rude to the polack maid
>>get cheated on constantly
>>has to care for a depressed obese man having regular strokes
hardly does anything despite being a housewife they have a full time maid
>>gets lied to
>>is promised that Tony would invest in their future, never happens
she gets lots of money to spend doesn't really care
also he did start the fund which her cousin got him into
>>has her friends get their husband assassinated and left with nothing
>>get yelled at for trivial shit like not closing the door
eh
delicious baked zitty
only thing she actually did in the house
cheated on Tony despite genuine attraction towards an Italian gentleman
eh the dude walked away once he realized what her husband was doing to his sister's husband
it was not upto her neither the thing with furio
>it's ok that she gets abused because her husband provides for the family
Considering Tony would never let her get a job, him providing is not even the bare minimum, it's a requirement. She was a saint.
nah she was just helpless
>wants to be strong independent womyn
>can't help herself getting latched to either her husband or father
>can't deal with goomars either even tho it's part of the deal
>get's told straight up that she should leave husband, can't do it
>later gets jelly of angie who actually becomes a strong independent womyn after pussy dies
>seethes when even meadow's party friend hunter gets into medical school despite her degenerate lifestyle, realizes there is hope for everybody except her
BOOBA
Nearly slept with a Catholic Priest. Better get back to confession.
>nearly cheating with a man taking advantage of her vs routinely cheating with prostitutes and going out of his way to seduce people he barely met
mmmmmmmmh
Didn't say Tony was right. The point is the entire had their flaws.
She was as much a hypocrite as he was especially after Furio
>dude, falling in love with a man after being abused for years by your husband is just as bad as routinely cheating
moid hands typed this post
Being unfaithful is bad no matter who you are. She also chose that life and knew about his infidelities. He never had the makings of a varsity athlete anyways.
she didn't chose to be cheated on lol. Not everyone in the mob was a cheating bastard anyways
>i-it's bad no matter what!
yeah jerking it to porn is comparable to becoming a prostitute with that logic
Imagine defending Carmela. Next you'll say AJ is a hero and Ralphie is a role model lol
>imagine defending someone who did nothing wrong
>next you'll say a psychopathic murderer is a role model
Engage with my arguments instead of strawmanning, will you?
Great. Lets go back to MY point. They're both flawed. Tony's worse.
Carmela is materialistic and superficial who failed at being a good wife and a parent. Only showed appreciation for Tony is when he brought gifts for her. When divorcing she tried to get as much money as posible from him knowing WHERE it came from and the lack of work she put in to have a claim to that. Blood money and her life of luxury came from it. When she realized she couldn't get all of it she came crawling back. She could have had a decent middle class job didn't she take business admin at Rutgers or some shit. Let's build a spec house and buy a shore house on your corrupt dime.
As a parent she failed to raise AJ-Tony equally guilty. Her manipulations for both AJ and Meadow showed how she'd frick over anyone to get a good college recommendation.
She thought she was above it all because of her faith. That's not how Catholicism works. You don't overlook sin and evil and still benefit from it.
I'm sure she'd want him out of that life esp when he was in the coma she reminisced about better times but she let him continue. Any woman marrying a mob-connected man KNOWS what they're signing up for. There will be infidelity and shit you have to put up with.
Tony's a murderer, womanizer, criminal but is still sympathetic in ways. He does good shit for his family (if not anyone else), often.
Carmela it's basically here's a fur coat. Here's a car. Here's money for your spec house. Her love swings on the money.
nta but lots of words when saying "I'm an incel" would have conveyed the same amount of information
He's right and you're too stupid to have a reasonable conversation.
samegay
cope.
right back atcha
Lolwat. I'm literally not the same guy.
do you live under the same roof as him then?
Doubt it if he's a wop with relatives in the mob and I'm some Irish farmer's descendant living in Canada.
IT'S THE CANADIAN MOB. BIG DEALS ON POUTINE BRO DIDN'T YOU KNOW
I think it was just other warring factions getting revenge at that point. He was still too visible and not being as safe as he once was by the end of the show.
The 'ol incel argument when I'm married with kids.
Nah bro.
She's sympathetic too tbh. It's not what a wife deserves and this is coming from an Italian, Catholic AND someone who has relatives who are definitely in the mob.
That would be hilarious. If he did take a bullet to the head would be sad to think what would have become of her like Ginny or Pussy's wife.
Good post
>I should marry a murderer and expect everything to turn out fine
why do women do this? the cheating should've been the least of her worries. her children are at the risk of becoming fatherless at any moment.
There is no evidence that Tony was a murderer when they got married, let alone that she knew of his methods.
>her children are at the risk of becoming fatherless at any moment.
and when she raises that issue, she gets empty promises and Tony bets money away
He committed his first murder when he was 23. That would've been in about 1982. In Knight in White Satin Armor, Tony mentions he's been married to Carmela for 17 years. That would mean they got married around 1982/1983 since the episode aired in 2000.
But no, she absolutely knew who Tony was considering she was related to Dickie Moltisanti. There's an entire scene calling her out on it. They didn't make it vague.
The mafia women talk about it at some point. They all knew what they were getting into, they still wanted the money, influence, and the powerful men that came along with it. You don't think for a second that women like this are concerned about how this affects their children, do you? Their culture expects them to have kids and they wanted to play house while also living the good life. That's it. They weren't thrown into this like Skylar White, they all chose this.
>Skylar White
the single reason why I never re watched breaking bad
>moid
Back to CC femcel
>(You)
>>moid
>Back to CC femcel
Still best girl
Excuse me.
no ass and fat
Great breasts and is still pretty to this day. Freshman 15 ain't bad on an average girl.
no
>brown eyes
ruined. throw her into the furnace.
i will not
She knew what she signed on for.
it got her so wet down there
I always felt bad for her that even as the mob bosses wife, she wasn't jetting off to Miami with the girls or anything. She never even went to Italy. She only went to Paris because she won a raffle. Furthermore, people say AJ was spoiled, but he never had cash. He had to sell his drums just go to a bar. As a spoiled mob boss's son, he should've been throwing cash out the window of high speed chases and shit.
Besides Tony holding on to all the money, they just weren't that loaded. They're living the same life style as their upper class dentist and therapist neighbours and in later season, money is even tighter because the feds are closing in.
He got in at the end of a good thing. Says it right in the first ep.
No he doesn't moron. You don't have anyones IPs stop gayging around
why the frickc did she brung aj when she visited furio
She probably thought it was an excuse to not get into TOO much trouble. Also that little frick couldn't be trusted to be left alone.
subconscious guilt
who is this,was she on the show?
shopped to look younger and go be a pedo somewhere else
Move over best girl in the show.
reminds me of kate kuray
I've seen her modern day in Brooklyn. She's a yoga instructor still hot as shit.
She was gorgeous
James Gandolfini was a fatter Kevin Spacey
cannot unsee
you sound demented
>She tells New York where Tony is going in the final episode all because he was tired of paying for her wasting money on a dream home she wanted to sell
what a b***h.
>implying she didn't shoot him in the side of the head after coming out of the men's room
memes aside, was his personal vendetta from the jacket man in the last episode or did someone ordered tonys whacking
It was New York. The jacket was just symbolic. Tony's actions catching up to him. Confirming the guy is a friend of ours, etc.
I always had sympathy for Christopher and Bobby. Both prob shouldn't have been in that life. Chris always had his dad to live up to who was a piece of shit too. Bobby was usually trying to do the right thing but long enough timeline you get pulled into it all.
And he had to deal with fricking Janice.
There was one other person who wore a members only jacket, Eugene Pontecorvo, the guy who hung himself after Tony wouldn't let him move to Florida. He ALWAYS had it on. Why, out of EVERYONE in the show, background characters, etc, is Members Only jacket man the only man wearing a Members Only jacket besides Eugene? My guess is he had confided in a cousin or family member and this was revenge.
I don't really like that theory, but maybe. To me, I think it was just symbolic of Gene's memory and all the needlessly cruel things Tony had done over the course of his life.
Also, Richie wears a member's only jacket and i think a few other characters do as well over the course of the show. Pretty standard wiseguy attire.
>Eugene Pontecorvo
i think it's not that complicated - Pontecorvo was wearing the members only jacket when he assassinated a guy in a restaurant earlier in the season, it's that simple of a connection.
I always like to think it had to do with the czech but the members only jacket shit just lines up too well.
The only explanation for how New York found Tony is that Carmella told them (she goes in, saying she's going to ask where everyone wants to go for dinner, then quickly comes out despite having to call Meadow and AJ, meaning she knew where they were going ahead of time when nobody else knew where Tony was) or Meadow told her boyfriend (Patsy's son) and Patsy was working with New York and put in the hit.
Unlikely that Paulie was involved, highly likely that Patsy at least signed off on everything and was made the new boss. What's most likely is that Carmella finally had enough and the last fight was the straw that broke the camels back.
Always figured it was the other new york families looking to just put the whole thing to bed, whatever anyone thought of the lupertazzi power vacuum, a jersey outfit whacked a five families boss, when johnny sack pitched this very idea to tony in season 5 he told him that he'd need to smooth things over with the other families.
Surprised the Sneedposting hasn't started yet.
The birdfeeder ... whatever happened there
The boydfeeder?
>steals your HRT medication
kick that man's ass!
she walks around dat frickin' menschion like budda wouldn't melt in her mouth
you sound demented