Still baffles me that Edward Norton somehow destroyed his career simply by being an insufferable butthole
Is this actually true or did he cross the wrong big shots?
Still baffles me that Edward Norton somehow destroyed his career simply by being an insufferable asshole
Seems to be somewhat true, bearing in mind that being demanding/perfectionist and and an butthole can be subjective interpretations of a person's behavior. He meddled a lot in some of his movies's scripts apparently. The fact that his Motherless Brooklyn personal project flopped set him back a little further.
That said, he's the best actor of his generation.
>That said, he's the best actor of his generation.
Phillip Seymour Hoffman
Talk about a dead career
hoffman was mediocre. you dont get bonus points for being fat and ugly and playing fat and ugly.
>Motherless Brooklyn
Buzz?! Your passion project. Woof!!
>Motherless Brooklyn
watched it with no audio on an ethiopian airlines flight
From 2 seats back, between the headrests on someone else's screen? Honestly a kino way to watch films
>best actor of his generation
>plays the same character in every movie except American History X
>destroyed his career
It looks like Wes Anderson is the only one who is still willing to include him in decent projects.
Kinda. That said the whole "he is an butthole" theory is imho a misunderstanding. His issue is that he he always wanted to have a big part in the writing process (often rewriting entire scripts by himself), but it must be said that with these contributions he often radically improved the projects he was part of, so he kinda had a point. In general I think once you know the details he becomes much more sympathetic: he just was a writer who hated seeing good ideas being butchered by execs and other Hollywood morons.
>It looks like Wes Anderson is one of the only directors he'll work with now.
ftfy
he's a goy who consistently showed up israeli writers and producers so of course he won't get hired anymore
>he often radically improved the projects he was part of
Hi Ed
He said Wes doesn't actually pay him for being in his movies either kek.
>but it must be said that with these contributions he often radically improved the projects he was part of, so he kinda had a point
Isn't he the one who nixed the original ending of American History X where it ends with him shaving his head, which is the only logical narrative conclusion?
>It looks like Wes Anderson is the only one who is still willing to include him in decent projects.
too bad it's usually small parts in huge ensemble movies
>wanna make a frickload of money dicking around on set for 2 days while on vacation?
>Oh no my life is horrible
>a frickload of money
lol, he appears in arthouse films that cost like $30 million in total together with dozens of other well known actors.
he's probably getting paid the SAG minimum. Sometimes it's his only movie project of the year.
Yes, he probably makes nearly nothing from Wes Anderson himself. However, being a movie star who was just in a movie means you get to charge a frickload of money for things like "interviews" and "having your picture taken". There are so many more perks to this shit then just an actors paycheck, right?
He can pick up any lame object, like a toy asteroid from toys r us for 2.50, sign it, and now it's worth 1000$. Get it? Every designer clothing, premium whiskey, svelte restaurant is going to be sucking his dick for the chance that he's seen in public wearing their shit
>be director
>have people for every job needed to get the project done
>every morning Ed bombards you with his edits
>thisfrickingguy.jpg
>"but it's better I swear!
>won't just do his job
>voice acting
>short
>uncredited
>Wes "Hack" Anderson
This dude's career is fricking joever
What the frick is he doing? Why didn't he just retire with grace instead of polluting his IMDB like a desperate C-list actor? He obviously doesn't need the money
basically in the last 15 years he has only appeared in large ensemble movies, never as a lead actor (except for the movie he directed). Will Hollywood finally forgive him for behing an butthole and start casting him in kino leading roles? he's probably changed at this point.
if it wasn't for Wes Anderson he would be almost unemployed.
I've heard of some of these and seen literally 0.
He's never been in a good movie
He's been in several but the last time he was the main star of a good movie was appallingly 17 years ago w/ The Illusionist. Since then it's been either bit roles in good films or a ton of subpar to shitty stuff
The Illusionist was a poor man's The Prestige
>The Illusionist was the patrician's The Prestige
ftfy
Uh, actually, the incredible hulk was 15 years ago
If you frick Courtney Love then that's a sign that you're truly demented.
He fricked an underage Evan Rachel Wood and yet it's Marilyn who gets attacked for "grooming"
I think he used to frick Cameron Diaz too (is Norton secretly based?)
he also fricked Salma Hayek, i didn't know he was a playboy, props to him
Wtf. She’s a 22 year old child here
When he fricking winks in the Hulk I just knew he was an butthole
He delayed projects with his demands. Being an butthole is annoying, but delaying projects cost millions of dollars. Every day on the set is a massive expensive. Not showing up is a massive expensive. It's why Depp stopped getting work, he was an unreliable alcoholic.
But Depp was acquitted, why are they still writing hit pieces?
because he one-upped a women. They are very spiteful creatures. For the rest of his life he will be taken down notch by notch at every opportunity. Death by a thousand cuts
>why are people writing clickbait
Standing your fans up at a concert because 'dude drugs lmao' isn't cool or rock 'n roll anymore. Especially for a sixty year old geriatric.
Because he's still a drunk coked-up dipshit,
Depp was supposed to lose. The american media will be perpetually salty about this.
#believewomen
Because he was acquitted
I don't know if you can call it a hit piece when it's 100% true and also marginally newsworthy.
Just beacuse he was falsely #metooed dosen't mean he's not unreliable fricking junkie
Hollywood allows you to be an absolute dickbag junkie, if your movies make money. Depp could do whatever he wanted when Pirates was making bank. Not anymore. Same thing with Norton. He hasn't made a mega successful movie or franchise, so him being an butthole isn't tolerated.
Ezra Miller got a lot of leeway to do all sorts of shit before The Flash came out. Now that it did, and flopped, I don't expect anyone but small indie films hiring him.
>Ezra Miller got a lot of leeway to do all sorts of shit before The Flash came out.
nah he was instantly dropped once the more serious allegations came out, it's just they weren't going to trash an already filmed capeshit movie that's in post-production and waste all that money, so they pretended it was ok until the movie released.
Norton deliberately cost the studio millions on the Italian Job because he was buttmad at having to do it for contractual obligations.
Based. I would kms if they were making me do that trash after being in The Score.
>It's why Depp stopped getting work, he was an unreliable alcoholic.
No depp has been cancelled by holly~~*jew*~~wood for starting a court case against an horable israelite ~~*murdoch*~~ when he tried to sue the sun tabloid.
He was insta cancelled and banned from movies for that
>thinking that you can't be genuinely sick and drink at the same time
>being surprised that the super-rich actor who plays music for fun and has wanted to be a rock star all his life acts like... a rock star
not doing your shows is not being a rockstar, its being an addict scammer, literally a lying crackhead who played on your sympathy
>a massive expensive
he's one of my favourite actors and it's so annoying that he hasn't a career, same with Fassbender. they need to be in more stuff before it's too late
It is too late. A-listers are doing video games on the reg now, and those videogames are bombing
I thought that was meant to improve your career.
the media is lying to us!
He's in whatever he wants to be in and is insanely rich and well-regarded, despite being a notorious butthole. How is his career remotely ruined?
Outside of the shitty Glass Onion movie, he has done sweet frick all in over a decade.
He was in Alita and Asteroid City moron, he gets work
Why do people always say Norton is such a good actor?
He just plays Edward Norton playing a character in every single movie.
He had a crazy good run at the start of his career. Oscar nom in a hit movie fresh out of the gate with his debut, then Rounders/American History X/Fight Club/The People Vs Larry Flynt in quick succession
The People vs Larry Flynt is probably his best perfomance. Too bad no one's ever seen him in it. Best Libertarian movie ever made.
there's a funny norm story while shooting that movie
>He just plays Edward Norton playing a character in every single movie.
Big if true!
I can understand writers/directors not wanting to work with him if he is going to use his star power to meddle in the editing/writing/direction of the movie, as he did with American History X. If you want to be a writer/director then do that, rather than waiting for someone else to make something then using your name recognition, recognition for things other than writing/directing, to meddle with it. Of course when he did actually write and director his own project it failed miserably.
It was a period detective story about real estate, duh. Never was going to make money.
The director of American History X was also some major primadonna though. Look him up, that’s pretty much the only real movie he ever made because he’s some autist
If the rumour of the original ending being derek shaving his head was true then I’d be in the directors side but I really doubt it
The main changes seem to be
>movie was meant to be ensemble following different characters fairly equally. Not with Norton/Derek as the main character
>Edward Norton got final edit and made it focus almost entirely on Jim (still great movie, just curious wtf was it gonna look like originally)
what is this haircut called?
also, checked
permy quaff thing
Invisible headband
yung frasier
>Broke: Edward Norton is insufferable
>Woke: Edward Norton is kino
This will not suffice, remember that.
WHY would they hire a known American actor, to play a role wearing a mask, to poorly fake an accent? Why not just have some random unknown Brit?
Dont know, doesnt matter, because it was kino.
>destroyed his career
Norton was always le serious actor and Hollywood doesn’t make those kinds of movies anymore. Also at 53 years old he is in the legacy season of his career anyway. The “Norton doesn’t get work because he’s difficult” narrative is a complete meme. The only fallout that ever came from this was he got replaced as Bruce Banner.
yea because for some bizarre reason he insisted on a cameo by Omar
he was replaced because norton wasnt going to do 8+ movies. thats hack work
he was replaced because fiege would not at that point put up with anyone who tried to frick with his vision, the directors writers etc were just mouth pieces for feige anyone who wasn't in line with that got cut quick
Half the roles Leo had should have been Norton's.
>Norton was 29 when he shot American History X
Chalamet is nearly the same age. Why the frick haven't Zoomers produced any Kino actors like Gen X did?
>Chalamet is nearly the same age. Why the frick haven't Zoomers produced any Kino actors like Gen X did?
to be fair we are in a different filmmaking climate. hollywood has now adopted a strategy of putting out almost exclusively massive budget capeshit and sequel slop.
it's not like the good old days where they spread their dollars over many mid-budget films which could afford to bomb and therefore could take artistic chances instead of blatant pandering for ticket sales
Nolan will get him for his next film and revive him
Hollywood just found a better less try hard version of him
Could Norton have been a good Rust?
Finally, an interesting question. To line with the other posters comment, it may have been to try hard. Like in fightclub when Jack gives his boss attitude.
They're nothing alike.
ed norton looks like sam rockwell, i can already see your screeching sayin NOOOOO HE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE HIM AHHHHHHHHHHHHH, lol
>ed norton looks like sam rockwell
But I agree with that. Probably everyone does.
Lmao imagine fight club with this dude instead of norton
There'd literally be no reason for him to delude himself he was Tyler.
tried watching troo detective recently and got filtered hard. it felt boring and overly long. maybe it's just one of those things that had to be seen when it was first released, and you watched it with friends and co-workers, to feel part of the culture. but the show is frickin boring for long stretches. there was no effort to make me care about the dead hooker, or the missing girl from years ago. then we're supposed to care about marty and rust? none of the characters were interesting or relatable. rust says nihilistic/atheistic shit that many HS teens had already been contemplating. i guess it seems deep given how shallow our society and entertainment options had become by the year 2014.
Norton EmoHulk >>>>>>> Ruffalo SoiHulk
Bana Banner mogs them all
Frick you mean by Bane Banner lmao
Eric Bana was the star of the 2003 Hulk movie.
fricking moron
you're considered an butthole if you're hard to work with and being hard to work with is code for not letting them do to you what they want unconditionally.
dave chappelle when he didn't want to wear a women's dress? hard to work with
henry cavill when he read the source material for the witcher when the show runner didn't? hard to work with
and so on. but today hard to work with basically just means not being hollywood in the fake friendlyness kind of sense or having the wron opinions. if some women has a bad dream about you and starts crying in a corner? you're also hard to work with
>and so on. but today hard to work with basically just means not being hollywood in the fake friendlyness kind of sense or having the wron opinions. if some women has a bad dream about you and starts crying in a corner? you're also hard to work with
He also thinks he knows everything better than anyone and likes to rewrite scripts and interfere with directing, which causes too much trouble and financial losses. He also didn't honor contracts and had to be forced to act under lawsuits.
He's an unbelievable fricking prick.
t. insider
People say this, but in what way? Just generally rude and unpleasant?
It's too bad. He's easily one of the most talented and plain looking enough to fit anywhere.
give concrete examples because that's the average normie opinion on hollywood actors
>average normie opinion on hollywood actors
the average normie opinion gives them a pedestal on social media and enough influence for their abysmal takes to be considered gods gift to humanity
if the average normie opinion about hollywood was that its a ratpack of morons whose talent lies in fooling people they would be begging for cash to make ends meet
give examples, stop crying
he's Yale educated and according to Tim Ferriss he's a super star investor
and also he's still acting a ton despite being a dick
so it's all working out for him i'd say
>and according to Tim Ferriss he's a super star investor
where can i read that?
>he's Yale educated
He's a history major lol
Confirmed haplo-autist on Cinemaphile.
He disparaged the holy Emmys and its swag.
homie had a nanny who teached him opera when he was 5 years old, what the frick
Nothing wrong with classical training, today's "actors" could stand to learn something about entertaining.
He was superb early in his career, like Rounders and FC. Not to mention The Score with Brando and De Niro.
But he started being in shit movies after that and or personally ruining them so nobody gave a shit anymore. That's that.
he's an old school wasp and unwelcome in pozzed showbusiness
ed was born into a rich family, he doesn't need a "career" the way normal people do. after college he was able to live in Osaka and "work" for his grandfather's org. must be nice to come from a competent family. i'm not seething i'm just posting facts. the guy was already set for life.
>multi-generational wealth justifies him being a prick.
I don't know if he was a prick, but it seems like "having a career" is deeply connected with money and reputation. if someone is already rich he doesn't really need to make money the way average people do. His long IMDB suggests that he was OK to work with and did his work. If he was a total dbag all the time and was so difficult to work with, as implied by OP, then he wouldn't have been in so many movies. having said that, i don't envy the guy. he's with some random no-name israeli wife and only has 2 kids. a man of his wealth could have had at least 5 offspring, each from 2 different women. he could've guided his family's company to make actual impact on society, not just play dress up and make "kinos" that other actors could have made. every role he was in could have been played by someone of similar look. just imagine if someone else played the fight club officebitch, or the nazi guy. it wouldn't have made any difference. there's nothing special about ed norton. and given his family's leftist proclivities, his genes will die out in just one more generation.
you sounds like an indian
At age five, Norton and his parents saw a musical related to Cinderella at the Columbia Center for Theatrical Arts (CCTA), starring his babysitter, which ignited his interest in the theater.[12][13] He enjoyed watching films with his father as a pre-teen, but later reflected that he was fascinated with the cinematography rather than the acting.[14] Norton recalled that it was theater and not films that inspired him to act.[14] He made his professional debut at the age of eight in the musical Annie Get Your Gun at his hometown's Toby's Dinner Theatre.[11] At the CCTA, he acted in several theatrical productions directed by Toby Orenstein.[13]
In 1984, Norton won the acting cup at Pasquaney, an annual summer camp for boys in Hebron, New Hampshire, where he later returned as a theater director.[15] He subsequently immersed himself in films, naming Dustin Hoffman and Robert De Niro as two of his early inspirations because "the ones [he] liked were also the ones who made [him] think [he] could do it because they weren't the most handsome guys".[14] He graduated from Wilde Lake High School in 1987.[16] He attended Yale College, where he earned a BA in History.[8] While there, he also studied Japanese, acted in university productions, and was a competitive rower.[11][17] After graduating from Yale in 1991, conversant in Japanese, Norton worked not-for-profit as a representative for his grandfather's company, Enterprise Community Partners, in Osaka, Japan.[18]
>Norton worked not-for-profit as a representative for his grandfather's company
>Worked not for profit
You mean he did it...for free?
On the fight club commentary he seemed ok. Maybe a little dull, maybe a little "smart", but he seemed to get along with Brad Pitt alright. There's one part Brad corrected him on something and he took it in stride.
>get hired to be an actor
>wants to change the script because he knows better
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with a serious actor.
You get an actor, director, and writer for one price. One who will elevate your piece of shit to kino. The fricker can play a leper in a mask without you even knowing who he is and still have charisma.
Yeah he has so much charisma he doesn't have a career anymore.
Hollywood shoots itself in the foot. News at 11.
why did we never get a Rounders 2
>i'm absolutely gobsmacked about why this above-average actor from a well-connected wealthy family continues to get roles despite unfounded rumors of him being an insufferable butthole (which by now is a stereotype of all enty-biz type people)
He’s not israeli so the second he wasn’t making them shekels the you know what’s turned on him
he's just a colossal obnoxious entitled butthole and as much as i liked him in fight club and american history x, his overdose death cannot come soon enough
>wants the movies he's in to be good
>everyone else doesn't care
That's it.
he is good actor, but is too demanding
Look up who he's related to and you will understand why they hate him. Our people are still being disrespected.
ethan hawke stole his career
I agree they occupy the same lane, but Norton mogs him. Training Day is a great kino but what else does he have?
>Drew Barrymore, his co-star in the 1996 musical Everyone Says I Love You, recalled that he was "on the set every day" and "never compromised for a second."[124] He also expects different approaches to projects with different collaborators and wishes for "happy" working situations as long as "the boundaries of the collaboration are well-established in the beginning."[175]
what did he mean by this?