>stop my invincible son, those 4 rednecks might think you are superhuman if you save me
>stop my invincible son, those 4 rednecks might think you are superhuman if you save me
>stop my invincible son, those 4 rednecks might think you are superhuman if you save me
>filtered
while the idea, the concept of this scene made sense from a plot perspective, the writers REALLY should have thought of a better scenario to play this out in, it was just ridiculous because its soo implausible on soo many levels, if it was a car-fire after an accident in the middle of a main city, with cameras everywhere, sure, this scene would have made sense, but a few rednecks out in the sticks, hiding under a bridge, with their phone signals dead, and in their pockets because they're holding onto whatever they can to avoid being sucked into the sky?
It needed more elbow grease behind the scenes before shooting to make this scene better.
Cope.
He knew his son would be judged and his life made into living hell. Frick humans.
>t. Kryptonian BVLL
>He knew his son would be judged
>Heyyy Ya'll did ya see them Kent boy like run so fast in the tornado, fastest damn run I saw since that time ol' Pitchork's horse got pecked in the ass by Reedneck's chicken
Next day it would be on Daily Planet's front page.
>HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-WHEEEEE I TELL YOU HWAT
this is why Cinemaphile is the best board
the thing with superman is he has no need to be afraid of literally anything humans can do.
Chud mental abuse can happen too
This point is even better considering that it is Snyder's Superman specifically who acts like he absolutely doesn't give a shit if humans know.
Yes but he can snap and just destroy entire world. I dont want my planet burnt down for chimp iq fricks and glowies doing experiments.
people only "snap" if there is pressure applied to them.
we're talking about superman.
Superman can't do anything against mean comments on social media
he can not look at them, which effectively makes them non-existent.
Well papa kent ultimately succeeded, his adopted son turned out to be Jesus 2.0 instead of space hitler
okay well what if when the super man went forthwith the plan and did the needing saveful of his dad and the day was won nevertheless? what more?
He was a 16 year old teen! He wasn't ready.
If by 16 he could survive a tornado, there was nothing humans could ever do to him already.
What if he was BETRAYED & TRAPPED?
Trapped how? He can break out of anything.
TRAPPED in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber
Like, emotionally?
Oh yeah? Batman KO's a 7ft kryptonian by himself.
LMAO anon he was mortally wounded and died immediately after
Bruce died anyways and it was flash who killed Nam-ek
The problem with the Flash was that there was absolutely no reason for Flash to not dominate the Kryptonians entirely.
No, the problem was how were the kryptonians not murdering everyone, both Flashes included in a matter of seconds.
Seeing the kryptonians shooting at the normal human soldiers with scifi riffles was fricking abysmal.
MoS established that their suits provided them with super-strenght and super-speed.
Again, this is Clark who effortlessly killed entire kryptonian warrior squad, without any training ever, facing Flash with absolutely no experience.
Even Zod was a jobber and Clark didn't have a scratch afterwards. Doomsday was something he struggled with, Kryptonians weren't, and Flash is directly shown killing third in command by stopping his heart, there was absolutely no reason this wouldn't work on Zod.
This is round and round, people cannot write speedsters, they introduce these absolutely ridiculous powers and then they have absolutely no idea what to do with them and just try to come up with bullshit to nerf them. Even Snyder fell for this.
Actual bull would think otherwise, you sound like a cuck.
>Change name
>Put glasses on
This. The government would never stop hunting him. They employ thousands of people whose job it is to check for stories about children who show feats of superspeed to these children can be taken to the adrenochrome-harvesting plants
>The government would never stop hunting him
Maybe he should have become a billionaire and make considerable donations to demoratic party.
So the life lesson he is willing to die for to teach his son is
>never put yourself at risk to save anyone
You clearly know nothing about Objectivism. Zack Snyder rejects the very notion of altruism and makes Man of Steel an objectivist fable for a post-9/11 America.
Read Ayn Rand.
>Mr. Snyder, is it true your work is influenced by the works of Ayn Rand?
>"Uh yeah man, I think she's like, pretty cool, you know? Her stuff is like, you know, rad and junk."
No one who praises Ayn Rand has ever read her work.
meds
It is the truth.
There is nothing Objectivist about the Snyder's DC movies other than some notions about free will and freedom of choice.
Superman throughout these movies never stop helping or saving people even when he knows doing so will be detrimental to himself.
If anything the overarching theme in these movies is that of personal sacrifice and overcoming of trauma.
>saves Batman from himself
Cracks me up every time. Top kek.
Yes because as we all know the entire world believes a handful of dumbfrick rednecks when they said they saw something supernatural
>bull
Speak English correctly you homosexual.
>it's Latin
You're speaking English. Butchering words is what israelites and trannies do.
>Stop, I beg of you! I know you're so fast no one would even notice you saved me, least of all amongst all the high winds and debris and the chaos! No! This is it for me, my invincible son. I'm content with knowing you could've saved both the dog and me. Farewell!
But everyone would notice if Jon just vanished right before their very eyes along with clark.
Yes, he ended up being captured by the US goverment later. You should have at least watched the movie before criticizing it.
did you forget the part where the only reason he could be "captured" is because he allowed it?
>the government are gonna go after some dude because a couple of random people claim to have seen him run towards an advancing tornado and drag an old guy to safety kinda fast
He presented himself to the government, they didn't know shit about who he was.
Why didnt Clark Griswald just use his super breath to stop the tornado?
He was distracted up the road. Gif related.
>the whole smallvile
>4 rednecks
>whole Smallville under a bridge (where you shouldn't fricking be anyway) in tornado
>rednecks are suddenly smart when its convenient to my argument
pick a side dipshit. Either all of smallville is congregating under that bridge or rednecks are smart (and thus 4 rednecks are enough to expose Clark Kent).
Rednecks know not to hide under bridge in tornado, unlike troony loving city homosexual Snyder.
The correct terminology is "city slicker", chud.
This was really the stupidiest death in movie history. Superman could've run a little fast until he was out of view, save his dad and the rednecks would be literally GLORY TO THE HEAVENS A MIRACLE JUST HAPPENED KENT BOY RUN AT THE TORNADO AND MIRACULOUSLY CAME OUT UNHARMED ON THE OTHER SIDE MY GRANDPA TOLD ME A COW SURVIVED JUST LIKE THAT BACK IN THE 50S
>This was really the stupidiest death in movie history.
this is also the movie where a bunch of fetuses get sucked into a black hole.
It's actually a very nuanced scene. Pa Kent was in "hero mode" trying to save that dog, he was in a purely sacrificial mindset. In a very self-righteous kind of way, he'd already accepted the possibility of death the moment he went back for the dog. Ironinically, this resulted in a self fulfilling prophecy situation whereby his own acceptance of death deluded him into believing it was in fact the best option, when in hindsight it was a fricking moronic choice. If Clark had saved his dad, Jonathan would have eventually realised how insane his decision to die for no reason was and would have been thankful that his son acted rationally at a time when his own ego prevented him from doing so himself. A lot of people criticise this scene in comparison to versions of the story where Pa Kent dies of sickness, showing how you can't save everybody no matter how strong you are. In a sense, Pa Kent's delusion was the sickness that led to this otherwise preventable death. The combination of Clarke's obedience to his father and his father's delusional self-righteousness resulted in such a confusion situation for Clarke that, no matter how strong he was, he couldn't overcome due to its sheer insanity.
Its a story about family, and that’s whats so powerful about it
Hello, my invincible son!
see, he didn't die in the tornado, he just rode it to mount everest and hung out there for the rest of his life.
They really missed the opportunity in the Flash. When Flash created the tornado, I was really hoping Pa Kent would step out of it.
There he is!
What did he eat up there
hero cake
He wouldn't even have needed to run "super fast" or anything. He could have feigned that it was hard, struggle to the car, get the dog or whatever, struggle back. Nobody would have batted an eye.
This scene exists to teach Clark three lessons that he must learn if he's going to wield the great power he has
First is that he must only act on his own judgement, he must not abdicate the responsibility for his actions to a leader or father figure because ultimately he can't know that they're right or just and the stakes are too high for him to trust blindly. This is a recurring moral in Superman stories, like in the older films when Marlon Brando wants him to start taking over he world and he storms out
Second is that he can't act on instinct and be ruled by his basic urges. We know, Clark knows, Jonathan knows objectively in logical terms that Clark could save him, there are ways. But in the panic of the moment Jonathan's logical analysis is overridden by his base paternal urge to protect his son from harm. It's the wrong call, but he's making it anyway because that's what his instinct is telling him to do, and thats what Clark must learn not to do. He has to learn to do what's right, not what feels right. That's why he kills Zod.
And lastly the value of smaller creatures, if he's Jonathan we're the dog, that just speaks for itself. That's why he's called Super Man.
Those are the things that are in the scene and if you didn't get that you're a moron.
>But in the panic of the moment Jonathan's logical analysis is overridden by his base paternal urge to protect his son from harm.
Maybe he should've listened to his most basic self-preservation instinct instead
Paternal instinct overrides survival instinct
That's why people run into burning buildings
Which is a perfect example of a bad wrong decision that people still make.
>the shit Snydergays have to come up with to justify this moronic scene
not arguments
God you people are stupid, Synder is a fricking hack
This sounds like a shitskin trying to sound smart.
Snyder fanboys and their cringe mental gymnastics
It's hard to keep super powers secret in a world where everyone gets fooled by a pair of glasses...
I hate this fricking scene so much. Snyder completely missed the point, in original Superman Clark moved and dressed in a way that really made it hard to think he would be Superman.
Yeah, and it looked fricking cartoonish. Which was fine, because pulpy Silver Age vibes is what they were going for, but that's not what Zack was doing.
Me on the left
Lois figures it out at the very beginning of Donner's cut Superman II.
Did you really missed the part where Lex Luthor easily deducted Superman's identity?
>Clark Kent was known to have died at the end of BvS, and his boss and coworkers all attended his funeral
>A little while later, the resurrected Clark maintains his secret identity and goes back to his job at the Daily Planet as if nothing happened
??????
He had a glance into the future of how shit the Snyderverse was going to be with nothing but poo fans so he wanted out.
>Cinemaphileners and redditors and warthunder nerds can literally just hack the government and leak secret documents
>but in capeshit NO ONE ever finds out who the supes really are
Badly written
>i have to go now. my planet needs me
Costner could have grabbed the dog and calmly walked back to safety in the time they spent arguing about it.
Man of Steel is literally the worst movie I ever watched.
Batman v Superman is 10x worse.
Frick You.
Clark could've run like a normal person from his position and then sped up or flew when he got near so that people thought they were swept by tornado. They could just reappear the next day and pretend they landed on bushes or something.
>I'm tellin' ya mags, the Kent boy ran faster than a speedin' bullet to save his paw and the dog!
>Are you drunk again, Jeremiah?
Not to defend Snyder or anything, but the movie does establish a lot of people saw Clark lifting a fricking bus from a lake. Add that incident to a couple of people seeing Clark save his Pa at super speed might raise some suspicions.
The movie also established that everyone in Smallville knew he was Superman and nobody wanted to rat him out. So what was the risk?
>not wanting to rat him out
>would die to protect his secret
>TOLD A REPORTER WHERE HE WAS
Past a certain point, an adotped alien son without a wife and stable job can be a bad thing.
I'm A 47 year old never.kissed forever alone virgin
Why?
there isn't another scene that can filter brainlets as good as this one, obviously Pa Kent wasn't stopping Clark due to fear of being caught, he knew his son was superhuman but he didn't know how strong or durable he was, so he couldn't be sure if he could survive the tornado since they never tested Clark's limits, he just was protecting his son from harm as he didn't want to risk his life
>he didn't know how strong or durable he was
Wait a minute, did nobody notice that superman dad and batman are the same person?
It's just a bad movie, OP.
He didn't know how to fly yet. This scene filtered brainlets. Maybe you found it confusing that the events were shown out of order, but the scene of him learning to fly chronologically happens after this scene.
>the same thread for the 50000th time
And people here cry about twatter and raddit not being thread.
>everyone has an issue with Superman killing Zod
>the one thing I DIDN'T mind
>nobody b***hes about the other 500 moronic things in it
The original movie where his father dies of a heart attack is a lot better. It forces him to face the harsh lesson that he can't solve everything with his strength alone.
In my opinion, killing off either of his parents is not a good idea. My favorite Superman stories have Pa Kent and Ma Kent being wholesome and giving Clark advice in the face of despair.
>It forces him to face the harsh lesson that he can't solve everything with his strength alone.
Why keep saying this when that wasn't the point at all of that scene or movie? I feel people confuse the media since that death is replicated a lot.
In Richard Donner's Superman John Kent dies of an heart attack not to teach Clark some humble lesson about how despite his super-human powers he can't save every person, but rather as a motivation so that situation won't happen ever again. John death drives him to seek training, which he then spend 20 years plus training non-stop, just so eventually he can cheat certain death.
That's why when Lois dies to certain doom in the third act the motherfrick just goes "Nu-uh" and travels back in time to save her.
It’s not so bad in retrospect. He loved his son and wanted him to be able to have a normal life and not be more of a pariah/freak unless he was truly ready to make that choice. Also they shot this ten minutes from my house and my neighbor worked on the scene helping close the road and stage the trucks.
The actress for superman's mom in these movies is hot as frick. Way hotter than Lois. I dont give a frick that shes old.
You know who else is hotter than Lois?
>get antje to come back
>don't give her any lines
>1 minute tops of screen time
frick this movie bro
Who?
Where is she?
Wtf is Faora doing here?
Is that Rebecca Ferguson????
oh god oh god
send link
For me it's
>immortal offspring
This thread convinced me that Snyder fans are mentally ill, absolutely insane amounts of copium
The worst scene in a good film.
Should've stuck with the heart attack death.
Tell that to the tornados snapped neck.
>STOP MY INVINCIBLE SON IF YOU JOG TO THAT DOGGO AND BRING IT BACK AND MANAGE NOT TWIST YOUR ANKLE IN THE PROCESS THIS WILL BE MIGHTILY SUSPICIOUS AND WILL BE THE END OF YOUR LIFE AS YOU KNOW IT TRUST ME ON THIS IT'S BETTER THAT I DO IT
>OW MY ANKLE