>Stranger things will jump to 1988 for season 5
Please someone with a creative brain tell me HOW THE FRICK YOU TIMESKIP THIS?
>Stranger things will jump to 1988 for season 5
>Stranger things will jump to 1988 for season 5
Please someone with a creative brain tell me HOW THE FRICK YOU TIMESKIP THIS?
"somehow... time skipped..."
>he pays for Netflix
11......Double Ds
can't wait for more of Millie's big fat breasts and her big soft bum
Some post apocalypse bullshit. Maybe it opens mid action in a full out "military+the gang +11 vs the monsters" war. Kind of like Terminator 2's opening
>the cast all lives in a new town
>Hawkins has been entirely closed off and surrounded by the US military, with walls and bases all over the place
And there it is. It's not that hard. The final season will probably involve everyone going back to a completely ravaged Hawkins to kill Vecna and seal the gate one last time.
yeah this california/russia shit was just to get the audience used to the idea of not being in hawkins
>Hawkins has been entirely closed off and surrounded by the US military, with walls and bases all over the place
Good idea.
Every season of Stranger Things has been a homage to 80s cinema.
Season one was Goonies/E.T.
Season two had a Gremlins/Aliens vibe
Season three was clearly Red Dawn
Season four felt very Freddy Krueger
Season five could be Escape From New York.
I'm guessing they can have a Berlin Airlift sort of thing going on, like the feds decide it needs to be quarantined but there's no immediate invasion and such and the way public opinion operates, they arne't nuking it or leaving the people to their fates so supplies get dropped in regularly.
>Season two had a Aliens vibe
No.
>No
homie please
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/stranger-things-season-2-aliens-references-1056609/
What an awful list that proves nothing
>proves
Are you fricking mentally ill? Why is this something that needs "proved" to you?
Its fricking obvious that the creator are channeling movies they loved - hence its set in the fricking 80s.
You have the creators literally admitting the wanted to homage Aliens in the second season.
Even without the creators telling you that it was fricking obvious to everyone who watched it.
Come to Cinemaphile:
>no thats not right! I need to be convinced with proof!
Fricking have a nice day.
>referencing movies means the season was filmed like the movies
No. You are an idiot. All it means is there are references.
Nobody said it was filmed like Aliens you fricking moron.
But there are clear deliberate homages to 80s movies which inform the direction the story takes.
In Season One the protagonists faced ONE monster. In Season Two the protagonists face hundreds of them. The Hive, the "queen", the assault on the hospital. All clearly homages to Aliens to anyone with pedestrian understanding of pop culture.
You even have the creators TELLING YOU THIS.
Holy frick you schizos will argue with your own shadow.
Sorry. References don't make something an homage either. References are just references.
>Season one was Goonies/E.T.
/Firestarter
Twitter brain
it's a le metaphor 🙂
it just represents how the main cast FEEL about the upside down and Mike's dad showed that most people don't see anything as different
Opens up with the world in chaos. Cold war is about to go hot. WWIII commences. El stops all the nukes with her brain and sends them into the upside down, practically destroying it. The boys high five and babble about the nukes symbolizing Hellfire.
The invasion has a phony war period where it slowly creeps - maybe they need to kidnap human hosts quietly in order to really swell the numbers of the demogorgons.
>maybe they need to kidnap human hosts quietly
This was the main goal from season 3. And the town is mostly getting deserted now anyways. Well they did a really piss poor job of showing if the town will persevere or not.
S3, prior to the homosexual Vecna retcon, was all about Mind Flayer creating a proxy body from human flesh. I'm referring to them getting humans for rapid demogorgon birth and growth via food. Hell, if the homosexual Vecna twist wasn't in effect, I'd have Mind Flayer get humans so he can create like 2-3 new flesh golems like from s3. Think of it like a video heirarhy thing for enemies. From lowest enemies to boss battles:
>demobats
>demodogs
>demogorgons
>flesh golems
>Vecna
>The Mind Flayer
yeah anon what we need is for the other narrative arts to become more like video games.
Kek, I don't even play video games in real life, it's only a way of illustrating my point about different tiers of enemies which you find outside of video games (like in Aliens). Get the frick over yourselfs, you stupid autists.
Im thankful homosexuals like you will never write a show. Stick to Cinemaphile you moronic Black person
What is the point though? A fricking Soviet flamethrower is capable of killing demodogs in like seconds. The whole cast is together again but surely they will split then up again. But one flamethower and just twonor three people running around with fricking swords can eliminate a frickload of them. It no longer needs flesh hosts. It is fully leaking through dimensions now. I imagine everyone going through a bunch of mind frickery while it spreads and rots everything in it's path. Speaking of which why was Eleven the only person to walk into the rotting flowers? Every character that matters was there aside from Lucas, Erica, and Sam. Yet like what all the other 8 characters there decided not to walk into the field of decaying flowers despite resking their life for her already? Stupid.
the crew from the ending of the mist plus a couple more flamethrowers could deal with the entirety of the hawkins disaster, this is oficially a disney tier moron show for kids.
Did they once acknowledge all those Flayed going missing in S3 or S4?
So if production’s underway, S5 will be out soon ish?
The cover story is that they, along with Hopper, Billy, etc., died in the Starcourt mall fire
they'll have to timeskip it because the cast will have aged another 10 years by then
>Stranger things will jump to 1988 for season 5
When did they announce this? Where?
Production is looking for 1988 cars
Could be a '2 years later' bit at the end.
So what you are saying is actually:
In some way at some point in time in the show, cars from 1988 will be shown
>skip to 1988
>everyone has grown a bit
>max is fully healed with eyesight back
>3 minute flashback of El searching max's mind to save her, finds her unconscious in her own mind, wakes her up, max is saved
>7 episodes of filler
>10 minute fight, climax of series finale, El holds out her hand at Vecna and screams
>credits
>Eleven holes up her hand
>Vecna starts to turn to ash
>El... Truly you were the number one all along. Muh papa.
Opens with the world in chaos. cats and dogs getting married. main cast are all at highschool but getting REALLY mediocre grades because of mild anxiety from threat of global demon apocalypse. both primary OTP pairings have reset to meaningful looks. main plotline concerns a 7 episodes focusing on a mystery surrounding the Hawkins merkin industry which turns out to have been a front for Vecna. Action sequence in final 40 min of last 5 hour episode resolved by El yelling at Tiamat. remainder is 35 min of wrap up, ending with snowball recreation where two main ship kiss again to sound of Madonna's "Like A Prayer" (no tongue)
>Is another season of the whole cast being split in teams
>They gather up to defeat the big bad guy
Wow incredible writing
The 'Vecna was the main villain all along!' shit is like the smoking gun you'd need if you were to try and argue that the Duffers are shitty writers. The conceit of their whole fricking show is dealing with the strange and alien and now we find out that at the root of it all is a man.
>Vecna is just a commander
>No no he is actually the main villain
>Mind Flayer is just some dust shit
Hate this stupid writing. Vecna was a defeated with a shotgun and a molotov. Am i suppose to believe this Black person is the final villain? Frick that.
is just a commander
Is this the only time Dustin was wrong?
It depends on whether are going to stick to their 'Vecna is the boss' angle or if the criticism will be such that they take note and retcon who the main villain is AGAIN in s5. It's not hard to do, i.e. MF corrupted Henry as a boy hence why he's an evil spidergay and sneakily let Henry think he was in charge the whole time
it's obvious the Duffers never planned more than one season in advance, or they would have introduced the idea of Max having depression in season 2 and set up the mind flayer differently. it means they can't drive the show off a cliff like D&D&GRRM, but it also means they can't do anything really interesting, just repeat the basic outline of season 1.
The Vecna flies in the face of common sense though. They reduced their alien cosmic horror down to something mundane and human. It's absolutely fricking moronic and what Vecna was initially presented as, a once-human high ranking UD monster, was all he ever needed to be so it gave the characters a pernicious human, who can actually speak and relate to them at least on that level, to speak to them and have more personal interactions. You lack that with a shadow demon but that being the main boss still preserves the evil of the series as an alien one
they don't care about continuity so they can just add whatever bullshit they like. they can even retcon that the MF was in charge the whole time like flayerchads seem to want, it's not as if the Creel backstory in season 4 even really made sense or added anything beyond doing the "bad guy is the same as the hero but evil" thing.
The fact that they would have even considered making Henry the main villain and need something like criticism to consider retconning shit AGAIN in s5 still exposes some of their limits.
Vecna saying it was all him is just a red herring. He just thinks he came up with it. In truth MF is some sort of primordial force and it will betray him at some fricking moronic moment so he has just enough strength to help El kill it. Maybe Will helps due to his connection. And maybe even Max because she will probably have one. Obviously expect a scene of her in a coma and something climatic happens so suddenly her eyes open.
>In truth MF is some sort of primordial force and it will betray him
I keep seeing this shit stated as a fact. Sure it's a possible route they can take in s5 but the information we have been given thus far is that the MF as we know it was molded that way by Henry and two separate dialogue exchanges say outright it was all him with ZERO in way of suggesting there is more to the story outside of cool fan theories and the Duffers vaguely saying more UD lore will be revealed in S5.
Or it only took note when a permanent gate was opened. I simply fail to see why EXPLAINING the motive behind an alien creature was needed and how dispelling all mystery was worth making the main threat of the series being a mundane human
>I keep seeing this shit stated as a fact. Sure it's a possible route they can take in s5 but the information we have been given thus far is that the MF as we know it was molded that way by Henry and two separate dialogue exchanges say outright it was all him with ZERO in way of suggesting there is more to the story outside of cool fan theories and the Duffers vaguely saying more UD lore will be revealed in S5.
The reason people think this is because season 2 depicts him as a force of nature. His design to be like a series of tornadoes was specifically chosen because it visually is something strange, unstoppable and uncontrollable. The duffers bullshit of we worked out a long term plan for the show after the first season is complete bullshit they are basically pulling shit out of their ass season to season and because of this are retconning all over the place to try and make things work.
god you "eldritch unknowable stuff" gays are absolutely annoying. The Mind Flayer has always been human-like and cunning in behavior. It wasn't a form of cosmic horror
It was pernicious and vindicative and had a personality in that sense but it was still an alien shadow creature. It wasn't a fricking human, so lent some more mystery and alienness to the Upside Down as a threat. Now a human is at the root of it all. That's fricking stupid as far as a writing choice goes because it's the most boring fricking thing they could have done - unless you have a raging hard on over 'man is le most cruel animal/man is the REAL monster' themes.
The human is simply controlling it, giving it purpose and intelligence. it was always an alien hivemind controlling the monsters of the Upside Down. With a human villain behind it, its behavior makes more sense
>The human is simply controlling it, giving it purpose and intelligence.
So you're basically agreeing with me that a human man is at the root of it all.
>its behavior makes more sense
Why did its behaviour need to make "more sense"? It was better off as some mysterious malicious shadow monster and Vecna as his corrupted human agent.
No its better that Vecna corrupted the Mindflayer and is pushing for it to spread and conquer, because it explains why it only started caring about dimension hopping after it met him
Didn't ever occur to you it did not even know of other dimensions because it was stranded? Just like Vecna was stranded. A doorway had never been opened. Which is why it was stuck like 2 years in the past. It took an imprint of the world because Eleven casting him inside opened the window.
>Why did its behaviour need to make "more sense"?
Because it already talked and interacted with humans. If they wanted a truly eldritch villain they would have done something else. Explaining the MF was likely always in the writers heads
>If they wanted a truly eldritch villain they would have done something else
I actually questioned the other day if the Mind Flayer even counts as Lovecraftian/eldritch considering humans are *not* beneath his notice and he doesn't drive people insane or anything. I likened him in those the more like a malicious manipulative demon. So if all we're doing here is hairsplitting over whether he can be termed eldritch or not, I don't fricking care. An ancient inhuman shadow demon is better as the boss villain to me than a human man. MF as the boss still renders the UD as an alien threat to our world.
It still is an Alien Threat to our World. But without Vecna it wouldn't be interested in our World. Vecna is what makes the UD an antagonistic force and not just le spoopy place
The root of the threat is still a man. A fricking MUH SOCIETY MUH MOTHER NATURE! gay. Frick that, we didn't need the human factor to explain why UD is a hostile, invasive dimension that would have tried to frick humans with or without Henry. You render the threat human via Vecna being THE boss.
it's the same as Brenner or the commies opening portals to the Upside Down because they want to control this powerful dimension. Much like Eleven, a little girl, was able to physically deal with the threats from this world using her powers, Henry used his powers to turn this world against his old one. This is much more interesting and coherent with the setup for the show than a banal "spoopy monsters from spoopy place want to kill humans" which is a good idea but wasn't executed very well in ST to begin with. Only the Demogorgon in S1 worked and even then it was quite easily defeated by a little girl. So putting the focus on the human conflict was there to compensate the lack of cosmic horror. The show has become too light-hearted and fanservicey to pull off what you and other anons seem to have wanted
Be honest, why are you baiting?
What's "baiting" about my post you disingenuous homosexual?
>Only the Demogorgon in S1 worked and even then it was quite easily defeated by a little girl. So putting the focus on the human conflict was there to compensate the lack of cosmic horror.
You write this despite having seen Vecna job 4 times already and the closest the MF in his pure shadow form came to a job was having only a single one of his tendrils pushed back into the UD by 11 at the end of s2?
>Henry used his powers to turn this world against his old one
Nah, I genuinely don't think I'll ever get the idea of a man being at the root of the evil as opposed to something wholly alien and hostile. Maybe it's a preference thing. Vecna as a guy motivated by his weird love of the UD and hatred of the human world and as a more human speaking villain to actually interact with characters like 11, Nancy, etc. is a very welcome addition, only not as the big bad boss
>You write this despite having seen Vecna job 4 times already and the closest the MF in his pure shadow form came to a job was having only a single one of his tendrils pushed back into the UD by 11 at the end of s2?
Yes, Eleven is the main character of the show and it's been established to be the only one able to physically deal with threats from the UD. Since her power were always lame in physical sense, with the most interesting ones being the psychic ones, they decided to make the main antagonist (protagonist < - > antagonist) also a psychic force that shares a backstory with her. It's simply a way to capitalize on the STRENGTHS of the show, since the Duffers clearly had no idea where to go after Season 1 at least they know where to put their focus
>Nah, I genuinely don't think I'll ever get the idea of a man being at the root of the evil
It's not at the root of the evil. The MF cloud in Russia was seemingly outside of Henry's control, but it still militarized the monsters. The hivemind and creatures are the alien threat. Vecna is the one using this potential to create an Army to destroy the World he hates. But this army is capable of doing just that even without Vecna, there's just not much interest on its part.
>only not as the big bad boss
The series probably won't end by just defeating Vecna, since we've seen that already. There's more to the Uspide Down that will play a role in getting rid of him I assume. Unless Season 5 is complete shit of course
>There's more to the Uspide Down that will play a role in getting rid of him I assume
I forget exactly but was Nancy's description of a monster with gaping mouth her perception of the gate opening in Hawkins or hint at some new s5 monster?
we hear the monster twice this season. we hear something big moving and groaning when they're at the skull rock or whatever when the steve/nancy/eddie/robin group get there for the first time in the upside down in s4. there's even an earthquake. we hear the same noise and the same quake again when they're at vecnas house.
>MUH SOCIETY
This keeps being said, but why? He's murderous as a CHILD.
>Vecna is what makes the UD an antagonistic force and not just le spoopy place
Does it though? I can understand how the Mindflayer seeing a strange creature its never seen before would take interest in potentially where this is from and how it got here along with the world it came from. But the Demagorgon in season 1 is just an animal doing what animals do that stumbled into earth from the portals 11 accidently opened. The UD is an antagonistic force because its so hostile and strange with lifeforms that have evolved in different ways that make them dangerous to humans. If portals were just open the creatures inside would wander through because its far easier to hunt things on earth for food than things on the planet they are in.
>But the Demagorgon in season 1 is just an animal doing what animals do that stumbled into earth from the portals 11 accidently opened
The Demogorgon was opening portals itself. It was just an animal but its killing drive was probably being exploited by the MF to open more and more portals
Go suck more capeshit, you Black person troony
You're too much of a reddit cretin to understand the mind flayer was a cool concept with a lot of mystery behind it, you know, the kind of shit that makes people talk and theorize about, thus increasing popularity
Now we have some incel gay who was le evil mastermind and does a joker speech before jobbing every season
Fricking boring as shit and utterly lame
Vecna has also jobbed on screen 4 times already. The closest MF in his pure real form came to jobbing was when 11 had to use all of her energies to push a single on of his tendrils back into the UD at the end of season 2. Having something far less powerful presented as the real master who has MF subordinate to his will feels off. Like making Vecna the REAL baddie is so stupid I always assumed he was only ever introduced to be the right hand man Dustin speculated he was so the evil faction has an talking, slightly more relatable human to represent them.
>Like making Vecna the REAL baddie is so stupid I always assumed he was only ever introduced to be the right hand man Dustin speculated he was so the evil faction has an talking, slightly more relatable human to represent them.
I liked the idea hes just been hiding out surviving in the Upside down slowly being transformed by it and growing in power. The Mindflayer fricking off to go see what Russia is doing with portals opening up gave him the oportunity to take control over some of the Hivemind in the area and then he started working on opening portals back to earth to frick everything up.
I can almost imagine the MF still being intensely wary of Henry even after he submitted to him soon after meeting given that he's still a human and, to MF, an alien thing. He basically puts him in suspended animation and only relents to letting Henry have a go after MF failed twice two years in a row.
>You're too much of a reddit cretin to understand the mind flayer was a cool concept with a lot of mystery behind it
And the mystery was solved. It was never a creature so alien and unkowable that a human connection wasn't in the realm of possibilities. The MF was a cool concept, but not a compelling antagonist.
> thus increasing popularity
Kek and you call ME capeshitter?
>and does a joker speech before jobbing every season
Better than the MF
>capeshit
>Black person troony
>reddit
>incel
>le
>joker
>jobbing
The brain of this poster is the size of a pea lmao
He's totally correct though (shitty way of articulating things and buzzwords withstanding).
No he's a moron.
this was always just a poor copy of elfen lied + silent hill
>time skips
Yep, that's me, I bet you're wondering how we got here. Because, you know, we didn't show you.
1988 us the chad year to born. Year of the dragon.
So this story has basically turned into the literal Hakkar plot from WoW
Theyre going to ape Aliens by having the kids advise/lead an overconfident military team into Hawkins to terminate Vecna
Is this show worth starting?
S1 is legitimately good, S2 is worthlessly boring, S3 and S4 are entertaining schlock
Hmm ok. Guess I'll watch S1 and stop there
Don't worry guys next season there will be an even bigger bad guy who will be the resl final boss.
gee I wonder how
this came to mind too but i dont think they will be this stupid.
god this was a setup for an amazing final movie. instead it got scrapped...
Will there be a 90s Stranger Things requel with the original cast returning to try and capture that original Stranger Things era feel but with a new younger crew as well to pass the torch
They literally skip 2 days already after fighting vecna
What's your point?
It'll just be a climate change analogy or something. Everyone ignores it despite it destroying the planet. Then suddenly it's too late and shit starts happening fast so they need to take action. I don't fricking know man. If I wanted to watch a bad show it would need to have big jugs in them for me to stay invested.
The Walking Dead style so they can make even more seasons or spin-offs in world during and post apocalypse.
>is another chapter of tv show experts getting triggered over popular tv show
Is just a campy homage tv show about a group of friends dealing with evil. Stop trying too hard homosexuals.
>Is just a campy homage tv show about a group of friends dealing with evil. Stop trying too hard homosexuals.
No one's asking like it's high art you strawmanning Black person. And for what it is, it's not doing the best job. Stuff like this thrives on good character interactions/relationships and good villains. It's becoming a let down in both aspects.
keep seething more homosexual you will watch the fifth season anyway
Sure, cause I like the show. What, voicing a few issues with it must mean I despise it? How autistic of you.
11 gets anally raped in the Season 5 opening
>Shit and blood pours out of her tight young anus
>The blood and shit mixture pools together to form Vecna
>Vecna tag teams 11
>The original rapist was Will Byers
Eddie dead felt pointless. They should have show that the bats were trying to get trough the portal so then you really feel that the character is trying to save the town but no. Stupid shit happens because they dont have competent writers
there are rumors they filmed about 15-20 minutes of extra footage that is intended for use in s5 to set up the time skip. noah was confirmed to be in a harness rigging with the A unit but nothing of the sort was seen in any of the s4 footage. it's been rumored that some test copies of s4e9 ended with 11 in max's mind, so it's safe to assume that a lot of the (2 days later) plot was actually going to be the s5 prologue.
What was this gay doing anyway? Playing air guitar? You can clearly hear a recording of the song playing.