uh-oh streamsisters maybe we shouldn't have reformatted those hds
>In late May, Disney told regulators and investors in a public filing that it would be taking down “certain produced content from its [direct-to-consumer] services. As a result, the company will record a $1.5 billion impairment charge.” Disney warned that “additional produced content will be removed” and could create an additional $400 million impairment charge.
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Bravo, israelites.
Fingers crossed for Paramount to delete NuTrek
I unironically love Strange New Worlds.
I don't believe you.
It's true, the timeline episode only sealed it for me. I know it's not exactly like older Trek that I loved(I'm a TNG/DS9 kinda guy)but it's enjoyable as hell to watch in my opinion. I've never seen an ep of Discovery or Picard. Or Lower Decks.
Go back (You're a reddit kinda guy)
No, I don't think I will.
You're unironically a moron
you are a shill
I'm not sure Paramount would want to pay someone like me, but okay.
Is that Jenny Agutter
It is.
watch the latest episode and say this with a straight face
Brilliant. This is the kind of thinking our country is built upon.
this how you drag the whole world into recession every 15 years
>This is the kind of thinking our country is built upon.
Unironically true.
Death to Disney!
>take up valuable storage space
Or you could just stream them for free by using sites like WatchSeries, Putlocker, and at least a dozen other variations.
A 1tb hard drive dedicated for movies is good enough
>valuable
what is its value if you dont use it
also digital storage is cheaper now than its ever been
a 14TB HDD is $130 US
i bet most people spend twice that on streaming every year
and youd be hard pressed to fill it up in that same time
and its yours forever
you own it and it cant be taken away or shut down
>14TB HDD is $130 US
fr?no cap? Thas strt bussin.
on god homie
frfr
just found this on newegg...
https://www.newegg.com/wd-my-book-duo-44tb-black/p/N82E16822234543
44tb, jfc. I cant wait for this stuff to get even cheaper
i mean you can do way cheaper than that right now by just buying a few of the hdds i was talking about and setting up a server yourself
3 14TB drives is less than $400
Man, thats wild. I remember the old rule of thumb in the 90s was a doller per meg...
Just be careful re SMR. It's ok for archiving but not general use.
>and youd be hard pressed to fill it up in that same time
Depends on how many loose elves I generate.
*laughs in head crash*
>valuable storage space
Buy an external HD, moron. They're dirt cheap.
>not external SSD
lol poorgay
>uses SSD for consuming movies
It's unnecessary unless youre running a server with it which is also stupid
You're watching garbage quality, audio especially is extremely compressed on sites like that. If you can't spend 15 minutes downloading a ~10gb blu-ray rip and instead settle for a compressed piece of shit then why the frick are you even watching movies? Frick off and find another pasttime. People like you are the reason studios can release shitty flicks with cgi worse than what we had 20 years ago because you don't give a shit about quality, you just want to slop out.
>NOOOOOOO NOT MY HECKIN HD4KQUALITYERINO
you could have picked a half dozen other decent clients instead of the one that shit the bed and stopped working entirely the other month.
how do you even write such a fricking worthless comment, fill out a captcha, and post it?
there's nothing wrong with that client, it's not fricking utorrent you giant moron.
Wasting digits with homosexual opinions. kys.
>implying I will use these wastes of megas to pozz my hard drive
i remember some actor, creator, or something complain about this a while back. kind of funny.
>Beyond the tax writeoffs, removing content that isn’t helping platforms retain or bring in new subscribers is a way to cut spending on residual payments to writers and actors as well as avoid paying licensing costs.
>It adds insult to injury for striking workers, who warn that a few consolidated streaming platforms have slashed worker pay, worsened working conditions, and made employment more erratic, and who see further cuts to their already meager streaming residuals when shows are purged.
seems true
>"i've made a few movies. perhaps you've heard of my most recent..."
>"it ran for two weeks on streamy plus"
>removing content that isn’t helping platforms retain or bring in new subscribers
So it's not making any money but the writers still expect to be paid
>It adds insult to injury for striking workers
No I think it sends a clear message, you refusing to lose your employer money for a while is doing them a favour.
No one works for free, you know. Sorry Tim, your office work didn't generate any money this month, so we won't pay you. Actually, you owe us of the energy you used at the office.
This is really the same thing as it is with books. You write a book and are paid for it by the publishers, but on the top of that, you get residuals when people buy your book from the stores.
The expectation in the entertainment world has always been that the creatives don't work ever day of the years, as there's just not enough things to keep them all employed, so they have to rely on the residuals. If they can't count on residuals, they will have to change their profession. If enough of people do that, that industry will collapse as then there are no people to do actual work.
>If they can't count on residuals, they will have to change their profession.
How much would you say one viewing of an episode of a series should pay out in residuals for that episode's writer?
WGA uses an example of 1.5% of the profits, which I think sounds quite fair. With a successful show even that can create quite a good chunk of income.
>1.5% of the profits
>residuals were paid based on how much a show was making
Making from what though? The monthly subscriber fee? Who's monthly subscriber fee, the person who watched it, just that one divided by however many things he watched?
Not that anon, but essentially;
>Streamers look at the total value of their subs
>Pay a percentage of that monthly revenue as royalties
>Can be worse for certain writers as their project wasn't made by the streamer but is licensed by them - thus the writer/actor gets a percentage of whatever the licensee made a deal for
For all the whining, it was probably a better deal in some ways than the olden days, where you got paid if a channel aired your show/movie or someone bought a DVD. In that scenario, you only get paid if you produced content people wanted to watch. Now you get paid for making a pile of shit no one watches, simply because it's on the service. Unless you're Lucasfilm and Disney just straight up deletes your show, like Willow lol.
also nta, but this arrangement explains why dumping shows would save them money
>WGA uses an example of 1.5% of the profits
Disney+ isn't making a profit. Disney+ is losing subs at a rate of knots.
1.5% of 0 is 0.
>but because all streamers have refused to disclose how many views individual shows or episodes get,
The reason they do that is because it would tank their stock price even harder than it's already been tanked. See if you guy weren't bubble fricked Hollywood morons who are only coming here because you need something, and because you're also leftarded you needing something gives you some sort of right, you'd know we've been discussing this issue for more than the current news cycle.
Your wokeshit DOES NOT SELL. Us "right wing chuds" were the ENTIRE audience for Star Wars and Marvel the whole fricking time. And you decided that actually you needed to make it for women, Black folk, and twitter, and it turns out women, Black folk and twitter don't pay for Star Wars and Marvel.
Which we told you at the time. But instead of listening you just called us names and reported out posts.
And then come you come here, and where you should be begging, you don't even have the manners to ask, you simply EXPECT our support.
Get fricked c**ts. You made this bed. Lay in it.
In your bumbling way, you actually managed to hit the nail on the head mr. Magoo
The actual problem is that the shows on the streaming services aren't actually generating money, but that is a fact no streaming service will ever admit. All they talk about how successful their things are, but that said success doesn't show up in the residual checks, so people creating those movies and shows rightfully ask: what gives?
Oh I'm so fricking glad you think I got it when I'm having to explain it now that you've go no choice but to listen, yet you still don't understand.
You don't get residual cheques for things that don't make money, and the things you make don't make money because the people with the money, me, fricking hate them.
And now after 8 years of you fricks calling me names instead of showing me respect, LIKE YOU'RE STILL FRICKING DOING, those chickens have come home to roost. And now you get to starve which to me sounds like fricking justice.
Maybe future generations can learn from your mistakes, but you've already had more chances that you deserved.
The thing is, you aren't explaining anything I don't already know. You are just too deep in your own self loathing to get it.
Oh aren't I? Then why don't you understand that it's not MYSELF I loathe?
No moron. The money from the investor is just the capitalized income from the subscriber.
The investor puts up a big lump sum today, in exchange for the trickle over of time.
You want to explain capitalism and you don't even understand the concept of capital.
for broadcast writers, actors, etc. are only paid based on views, but because all streamers have refused to disclose how many views individual shows or episodes get, the streamers themselves proposed a deal where residuals for streaming shows are a percentage of all subscribers the service has (though it amounts to a very very low rate), and SAG and WGA are all currently fighting to instead change it to how it was during broadcast where residuals were paid based on how much a show was making instead of the whole platform--which is what you are advocating for.
>that industry will collapse
and?
do authors receive residuals when people check out their book from the library?
no? Then actors shouldn't get residuals from streaming services
Actully, they do. Not as much as when people buy those books, but they do get a small compensation.
where does the money come from? I don't get charged anything to have a library card, nor check out a book.
my taxes should not be paid to a creative simply so he doesn't have to work
That's something you can complain about to your chose representative. But yes, for public libraries, the money comes from the tax money, including the compensation for the writers.
they get a once off payment, and the library is only going to stock 1 or 2 copies so its not much, and the government pays for it so you can loan books out for free
>the same actors and writers who shill almost unanimously for the great replacement, mass immigration, forced vaxxinations, puberty blockers, diversity quotas, cancel culture and basically all things globohomosexual are being denied their shekels
They are currently striking for residuals meanwhile studios are now showing them even before they get their way that they will just pull their shit off their platform
>This is an injustice somehow
How? They're shows made for no one which no one watched, made by an industry that is going out of business and probably doesn't owe any taxes anyway.
It's not like the content is gone, you can always torrent it.
>How?
How do you not understand by now. This may not affect you personally, but what we're seeing is extremely israeli tactics that will only benefit the millionaires already getting rich off the mouse. It's another case of the rich getting richer while the poor get poorer. And Disney is setting another precedent for the ethical lows that streamers will reach to keep their heads above the red
streaming companies are required to offer their entire catalog from all of history at all times?
>streaming companies are required to offer their entire catalog from all of history at all times?
Back when video rental stores were a thing, the store would continuously keep most tapes “forever” or until the tape no longer functioned due to continuous use.
A new video store would have a smaller selection.
An older one would have weird obscure kino that was no longer in print, because it had bought the tape at some point when it was.
The same goes for decent libraries.
The point of streaming services, was that they buy a license to previously made content when starting out, then slowly add newly produced content as they continue on, resulting in a wider variety of choices.
Deleting crap quickly just results in the streaming service being not much better than a news stand.
at a video rental store you were paying like $5 to watch one thing at a time, hardly a comparison to a service where you can watch thousands of shows/movies for $10 a month
>at a video rental store you were paying like $5 to watch one thing at a time, hardly a comparison to a service where you can watch thousands of shows/movies for $10 a month
Netflix still has their DVD service, and there are movies available thru it that are not available for streaming, or even seemingly available for purchase as downloads or DVDs nowadays.
Also;
Once Netflix got popular, various video stores basically followed Netflix, and simply charged a monthly fee for “x” number of video/DVD rentals at the same time, which you could return to take out other DVDs.
If you lived or worked near the video store, the turnover in viewing content was quicker than with Netflix.
There was usually also a wider variety of content, and older rental places had weird things on VHS that hadn’t yet got released on DVD.
The cost was a bit higher than Netflix, but cheaper than basic cable TV.
You also got to converse with the video store film buffs.
>Netflix still has their DVD service
Not for much longer: "At its peak, in 2010, roughly 20 million subscribed to the DVD service. But the practice has long felt anachronistic, and the company said on Tuesday that it will ship its final DVDs to customers on Sept. 29."
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/18/business/media/netflix-dvds-earnings.html
Just in time for other companies to start phasing out physical media.
>Netflix is the single streaming service for everything from everyone
>Other companies ask themselves "well why the frick aren't WE doing this!?!?"
>Other companies pull their shit from Netflix and start borrowing billions from Wall Street to make their services
>Netflix borrows billions of Wall Street to make their own shit given that everyone else is taking their pogs home
>Netflix spends several years putting out content that is absolutely horrid, fades into irrelevance with billions in debt
>Other studios build their own streamers that cost as much as the OG Netflix but have at most like 1/10 of the content
>No one wants to pay for 10 of these fricking things
>Everyone is now billions in debt that was financed solely by outsiders because "the idea made sense"
>It is literally mathematically impossible for any of these things to actually be profitable on their own
>Capitalism is the most efficient system.
>movie studios fricking themsevles up the ass by falling for netbubble 2.5 means capitalism doesn't work
moronic commie scum. If anything this proves the free market works because their overvalued shit they tried to push on people is getting BTFO and they're being forced to reconsider their flawed business model. If this was public money they'd just keep pissing it away
>Free Market crashes every 8-10 years and only government intervention keeps it from collapsing.
>But surely this time they will learn from their mistakes.
And the lesson there is the government should stop intervening, not be given the reigns over everything.
>thing crashes and burns because no one is buying it
>"quick bail us out!"
This is not free market capitalism. If your product sucks and you can't compete you either adapt it to something people like or frick off. You don't go running to cousin Shlomo to bail you up on tax payer dime every 8 years
>Real Capitalism has never been tried!
Your problem isn't with capitalism, it's the diseased tribe who've hijacked policy and direct politicians to bail them out when their slop fails because they made a dog shit product no one wants. This is not a free market.
>Citibank CEO: Half Indian/Half White Gentile (Female)
>PNC CEO and pres: White Gentile
>Truist Bank CEO and chairman: White Gentile
>Capital One Founder,CEO,chairman: White Gentile
>Bank of New York Mellon: White Gentile
>State Street Bank and Trust Company: White Gentile
>Citizens Bank: White Gentile
>Morgan Stanley: White Gentile
>Fifth Third: White Gentile
>M&T: White Gentile
>American Express: White Gentile
>Northern Trust: White Gentile
>First Citizens: White Gentile
>Zion First National: White Gentile (mormon)
>Many more that aren't as famous but you get the idea.
Looks to me like class trumps "tribal loyalty".
yeah even with our mutted and immigrant shitted culture and society, if the market was allowed to function shit wouldn't be falling off the rails as fast as it is
>If your product sucks and you can't compete you either adapt it to something people like or frick off
That's not what happened in our capitalist reality, you fricking mongoloid.
>it's not real capitalism, we just need to get rid of the government and then suddenly the corporations who can't function without blowing up the economy every decade will suddenly act in the people's best interest
the world would be a better place if the 2008 crash was allowed to take place, now you live in a world with a fake economy and money that is no longer bound to rational rules of a physical economy. And then you cry about it because shit starts making less sense.
Yes. By a long shot
Capitalism parts idiots from their money, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.
Said it before in another thread but this is like if every film studio opened its own proprietary chain of video rental stores in the VHS era. The rental market was huge, but none of them ever tried it or even really considered it. And why? Because it would have been fricking stupid. They already got to participate in the market by doing a whole lot of nothing. Blockbuster and everyone else paid them and they didn't need to buy property or maintain staff, inventory or storefronts. If was incredibly low-effort monetization.
And the absurd part of the streaming wars is that Netflix was that but better. They didn't even need to make actual physical product like tapes or DVD's. They were getting paid hefty fees just to give someone rights to show digital versions of shit they'd already made. It was almost like free money. And instead of just taking the money that was falling out of the sky right into their laps they decided to get clever and do it all themselves and lost billions as a result.
>it was almost like free money. And instead of just taking the money that was falling out of the sky right into their laps they decided to get clever and do it all themselves and lost billions as a result
Yeah I don't get it. It costs literally nothing to GET PAID for some streaming site to license your shit for a couple months. And you no doubt have a HUGE catalog to license out. We're talking several millions per month. What a collosal greedy frick up. So we really need 3 discovery channel streaming apps?
The great miscalculation was not realizing the deal with Netflix required them to make no content aside from what they were already making. Netflix was paying them for access to their back catalogue. It was money for things they'd already made money off of with ZERO additional expenditures. All the content from all the studios meant the selection was robust enough without 357 new Star Wars and MCU shows
And they decided "nope, we'll try to recreate the amount of content that Netflix had by producing the equivalent of every major studio combined in like the next 3 years." I mean, how cheap did they think that would be? How many subscribers were they expecting? Was the plan to eventually jack up the price to like $50 a month? I don't see how this was ever going to work.
>And they decided "nope, we'll try to recreate the amount of content that Netflix had by producing the equivalent of every major studio combined in like the next 3 years."
This wasn't the plan at first, they originally only planned to just have their back catalogues available, same as on Netflix. They turned to "original content" as a panic/desperation move once they realized that people weren't paying for an entire second Netflix with only 1/10 the content.
>Was the plan to eventually jack up the price to like $50 a month?
Yes. The plan whenever big corporations move in like this is to 1: undercut the smaller competitor (in this case Netflix) And then 2: Once you have a monopoly jack up the price. It's Capitalism 101.
Actually they would have done it, but it was illegal. Studios owned their own theater chains originally, and it was made illegal for a producer to also be the exhibtor. Chains like Blockbuster eventually stepped in to be a sort of surrogate. Then Netflix seemed like it would do the same. However the U.S. ditched this law in 2019 precisely because no studio wants to own a video store or theatre chain and because streaming is the main exhibitor now, deapite not legally being classified as a studio, distributor or exhibitor.
This is a very good analogy.
I guess the studios didn't quite understand how expensive making a streaming service is. They assumed that it would be just renting some servers from Amazon 3,50 a month and making a client for people to use. And before they realized, their streaming arm had used hundreds of millions in building the service, so it became a sunk cost fallacy situation.
Capitalism (especially the kind driven by shareholders and investments instead of the actual creation and sale of products) by it's very nature cannot be satisfied with "A shit ton of money" If the company makes $100 the investors will demand that next quarter it makes $101. Therefore Netflix was anathema to them, because on paper they get a higher share of the profit if they don't have to split it with Netflix. The rub comes from the fact that the modern capitalist neoliberal economics operates under the assumption that the productive forces just magically exist for them to extract rent from. Things like "we have to actually pay to run all this shit" never crosses their minds when they order the company to make these boneheaded moves. And if the company fails so what? They're investors, not actual employees or owners, they don't "go down with the ship" they just mandate the bankrupt company sell all it's assets to reimburse their investment and move on to the million other companies they have a finger in.
>under the assumption that the productive forces just magically exist for them to extract rent from.
Black person how fricking moronic can you be, do you think you're impressing anybody with this garbage.
The money comes from the subscriber. The rent is in the IP, and you've BURNED all your IPs because you lack the creativity to make anything original that actually sells.
You actually think you've "earned" something. You haven't. What you have isn't earned, it's GIVEN to you, not by the executives, but by the audience. They can take it away, and they have.
Money comes from the investor, not the subscriber. At the moment the investments are based on potential sub base growing. I'm waiting for the first studio to get busted for inflating sub numbers for this reason (hello paramount)
Exactly. The American economy at the moment is a charade based on "speculation" by investors rather than actual transactions like it used to. It's a house of cards that will crumble the moment it smacks up against material reality like say a war, or a food shortage.
Investors are just owners. In the early stages of a company they will take investment directly into the company itself in the form of rights issues, whereby existing owners accept a dilution of their own position in exchange for capital into the company, but for an established company this is rarely the case. People investing in Disney are buying stock from existing investors, not putting money into Disney itself.
>money comes from the investors
>not the clients
what fricking business model is this?
start ups, I know, but frick you for pretending that's normal
it's the same kind of moron who thinks companies will deliberately tank their own revenue because "esg money" will make up for it.
>state fact
>"thatz dumb"
Not my problem
Having no clue how corporations function is indeed not your problem, because you're never going to be in a position in life where it is relevant to you.
>this is like if every film studio opened its own proprietary chain of video rental stores in the VHS era
I never thought about it this way but you're onto something.
Why not just go do indie flicks at.this point? Not like you need a big company to get your film to viewers. Associating with Disney in 2023 feels like career suicide
This has always been true though. Picrel - they both stayed out of unions because even after some Hollywood success, they wanted the ability to make independent pictures. Rodriguez most famously being butthurt at the level of waste on studio projects.
Rodriguez's idea of waste is paying people when you could just have a network of favors, Mexicans working for free to be part of "Mexican" Hollywood movies. There is nothing admirable about him.
Except Disney is not getting richer, Disney is going broke because they got woke.
>Sorry Tim, your office work didn't generate any money this month, so
we're laying you off.
That's actually how it works. Either you're making money for the company or the company sacks you.
Nobody gets paid to go to the gym, and that's hard work.
>You write a book and are paid for it by the publishers, but on the top of that, you get residuals when people buy your book from the stores.
You get a cut of the gross IF your book sells. If nobody buys your book you don't get anything. And nobody is buying the shit on Disney+
>The expectation in the entertainment world has always been
That SOMEBODY has to make the rain to pay for all the garbage. But in the last 8 years you've chased away all of your most lucrative audiences.
We're not paying Disney.
So Disney is not paying you.
If you wanted Disney to pay you you need to make something that will convince us to pay Disney. And not a single one of you has.
Maybe try something without Black folk in it for a change.
>Except Disney is not getting richer, Disney is going broke because they got woke.
Iger, Kennedy and their 1 percenter tribe are going to walk away from the sinking Rat ship with their pockets full of coin. That's the main issue in all this. While thousands of workers lower on the totem pole lose their jobs and livelihoods, Iger will collect fat checks and tax breaks, then "step" down again and retire. They've destroyed one of the most iconic pillars of American entertainment, and they will never face any financial hardship, or even any real repercussions.
>Iger, Kennedy and their 1 percenter tribe are going to walk away from the sinking Rat ship with their pockets full of coin.
and?
>That's the main issue in all this.
No Black person. The main issue is that you've spent the last 8 years breaking all my favorite toys and laughing in my face about it.
And I hold a grudge.
Iger and Kennedy "stepping down and retiring" doesn't get a single cent out of me. I want Kennedy's actual severed head on a bloody spike, and yours right there next to it. IRL not minecraft.
Because what you guys don't seem to fricking get is that NONE of this shit lands on me. I have anime, I'm enjoying watching your industry burn because everything I might have lost in the fire, was already burnt by you homosexuals.
You have a serious reading comprehension problem, ESL. Somehow you think I'm on Yidsney's side here, when I already called them "the Rat". How fricking dumb are you
>And I hold a grudge.
So do I. But the world isn't perfect and the bad guys win. That's my fricking point. KYS
No Black person, you have reading problems.
Because, and I realize this is a new concept for you to wrap your head around, there are more than two sides.
There's your absolutely fricking heinous side of c**ts.
The dumb fricking israelites in charge who have let you run roughshod over the audience for 8 years.
And the audience who are very very very angry with you for doing it.
There were many conversations on this board about how another writers was inevitable, but this time the writers weren't able to withhold anything that anyone wanted. We briefly considered the idea that that was a israeli conspiracy but discarded it because israelites are not long term thinkers.
>So do I
You can hold as many grudges as you want Black person. But in the words of the great Jimmy Barnes, you've got nothing I want, you've got nothing I need.
Those workers voted in the politicians that enabled this. They praised the policies that led to their demise. There is no sympathy for them.
Wow it's almost like capitalism is bad and serves the interest of the ownership class instead of the 99% of the population.
>Le capitalism
No you are seeing the end stage of diversity and degeneracy.
Disney won't be the only company that will see this. Numerous pillars of the West will suddenly see their company start fricking up badly.
Anyone who b***hes about /misc/ deserves physical punishment.
>the poltard cries 'I've been found out'
I'm making money off shorting their stocks. $115 to $85 in a year, lol. Their downfall does benefit poor fricks like me as well.
So Disney can waste money on streaming shows then get money from the government as a tax write off? Seems like a scam.
>get money from the government as a tax write off
I don't think you belong in this conversation.
It's a good thing Biden hired 87k new irs agents to get to the bottom of this.
Physical media Chad's, we just keep winning.
Frickers carried Get Back once for a short period then pulled it. buttholes.
I want to be annoyed that they would even bother to make this content if it’s so shit they just remove it a couple months anyway, but I can’t care about losing junk media. Anyone who really cares about any show at this point should be pirating it since most streaming shows don’t even get a physical release at all, and these shows could end up becoming relevant or hiding a gem later down the line.
Honestly it’s pretty bizarre that writers expect to get paid for a show in perpetuity. It’s a pretty great deal they somehow worked out to get paid forever for doing a few months work, and it’s not like they get paid peanuts upfront, they make far more than the median wage in a fraction of the time.
If actors and directors are getting paid in perpetuity, it makes sense that writers would be as well. IF there's shit like ad revenue going on, which isn't really the case with streaming. People's expectations for what they should get paid from streaming are hilariously out of touch with reality, actors and writers and everyone alike.
hasn't amazon been shifting to ad-based streaming. seems to me that it'll become more and more common.
>hasn't amazon been shifting to ad-based streaming. seems to me that it'll become more and more common.
There’s Amazon Prime, with no ads,
And FreeVee, which I think is technically a different thing, but accessible thru the Amazon Prime app, that has ads during the shows and movies.
I was watching a podcast with a comedian who did a bunch of projects with Netflix, including that Jonah Hill turd. He was talking to producers etc and he said if people knew how little views vs cost some projects made (especially those massive budget star vehicles with people like the rock, designed to get global subs), people would expect the talent to pay netflix for being up. He said if they went the way of youtube with open transparacy half the content would be making zero dollars, and that the entire profit comes from shareholders buying stock based on subscriber number predictions. Apparently the WGA can't get access to views because the streamers think view numbers will spook shareholders when they see where money is going vs where it should be going, so they literally want royalties based off twitter engagement about shows kek.
Also, like every institution and industry in the western world, weird university politics has infected everything. Maybe that's a good thing in that companies aren't as cutthroat and mercenary as they could be, but the reality seems to be the worst of both worlds - inefficient, crappy products/services and corporations still being crappy. A weird situation is advertising. You'd think the equation would be simple - eyeballs + demographics. If you have content that is viewed by 100 million males aged 18-30, that would be the logical place to spend your ad money for your product built for that demographic. Instead these companies will AVOID anything their consultants say is "inappropriat" and then spend all their money advertising to a tiny audience, made up of a demographic that isn't the consumer of their product, to please their former classmates on twitter. Like I said, it's probably a double edge sword. If it was purely money driven, we wouldn't get kino like The Irishman. It would just be wall to wall cheap soap operas and true crime documentaries.
>I was watching a podcast with a comedian who did a bunch of projects with Netflix, including that Jonah Hill turd. He was talking to producers etc and he said if people knew how little views vs cost some projects made (especially those massive budget star vehicles with people like the rock, designed to get global subs), people would expect the talent to pay netflix for being up. He said if they went the way of youtube with open transparacy half the content would be making zero dollars, and that the entire profit comes from shareholders buying stock based on subscriber number predictions. Apparently the WGA can't get access to views because the streamers think view numbers will spook shareholders when they see where money is going vs where it should be going, so they literally want royalties based off twitter engagement about shows kek
Sounds sad but true.
>I want to be annoyed that they would even bother to make this content if it’s so shit they just remove it a couple months anyway, but I can’t care about losing junk media. Anyone who really cares about any show at this point should be pirating it since most streaming shows don’t even get a physical release at all, and these shows could end up becoming relevant or hiding a gem later down the line.
This was very common back in the days of broadcast TV shows.
A major network would make a show.
The episodes would air once a week, and maybe a second time during some non peak period that same week.
The next week a new episode would air.
Maybe, during the summer months, after that season had officially ended, the more popular, or maybe all even all the episodes would get re-aired.
The next season would be all new episodes, maybe with some flashbacks to the last season, and if the show lasted several years or more, there might be flashbacks going back to the first season at dome point, in many cases as cheap filler episodes.
80% of TV episodes that were produced though probably got re-aired once at best, and then were never seen again unless somebody happened to have recorded the episode at home.
I doubt 20% of TV shows ever got put into syndication and re-aired again, or even released on VHS or DVD.
TV stations used to record over old master tapes, resulting in old classic TV dhows disappearing forever.
PBS even did this with educational programming like NOVA.
There have been two separate episodes on Stradivarius violins, and attempts to recreate the sound, and the earlier episode no longer exists except a written transcript, which somebody managed to dig up.
Pretty crazy to think this shit will be gone and lost forever once it's pulled. Surely no one is backing up AIDS POZSLOP #726485 onto a torrent
> Julia covers corporate and political power. Her work has appeared in the Guardian, the Intercept, and the New York Times.
Thanks but no thanks.
israeli taxes ruin everything
No poltard taxes aren't da jooos.
What about the israeli tax
Let's look at the real reason here. They are completely embarrassed at the content they produced and the valuable space it takes up for them. I can't blame them, even I'm thinking of deleting alot of their shit.
>Immigrants have always pirated.
>Right wingers are culturally exiled and start pirating foreign movies.
>Leftists pirate because of morals Disney taught them.
Nice.
This is just fundamentally wrong on so many different levels
it is, and gloriously so.
Wait what? How- Is that image a gag?
oh no, it's real
What the FRICK is wrong with leftists?
a goyim is not a person, brush up on your talmud
It vaguely interests me that whites are the only race without a word for 'idiot leftist'.
>The White Language
>The Asian Language
>The Black Language
wow I thought there were a lot more like Spanish and French and Arabic and Chinese and such, good to know every continent just has it's own universal tongue. That's a lot less to learn.
Races =/= cultures or nationalities ESL anon.
>whites are the only race without a word
sentence clearly connects the subject of Race (described as "White") to the object of "Word". The only ESL here is you.
I assumed you'd be able to make the leap. I was wrong. You are a deficient and I'm done wasting my time on you.
Won’t this make people not want to put their movies/shows on streaming since at any moment it can be taken down and removed forever.
>We're only going to stream content normies actually want
Streaming will be true crime and renovation shows only in about 5 years.
Kramer, as always, is right about everything.
Pirating is fricking BACK bros
damn oh if only i didn't have terrabytes of better movies
>woke garbage is being deleted
Based israeli Corporations
nothing valuable on D+ anyways, anything valuable is from the pre-internet era and is already on BluRay and on all torrent sites
whats stopping them from just paying themselves millions of dollars for making a show they never release and claim it on taxes for breaks?
Wasn't this what happened with Batwoman movie?
I think you can do it once or twice, but if you do it too often, you'd be scrutinized further and would get penalized.
penalized by who? I don't think I've ever heard of the irs busting down a big studio over something like that
Let's say you have a million dollars
>open a fake business
>pay yourself a million dollars with your million dollars
>cook the books to show no profit
>pay $0 in taxes
You still have the million but you made nothing. There has to be some additional influx of money somewhere or you're just treading water.
they do that
Because they still have to come up with the initial cash to produce the show/movie in the first place, claiming it as an impairment loss only reduces their taxable income.
The unsung hero
Not really.
It's not like they've got anything to pirate. Eating shit doesn't become healthy just because you stole it from a rich man's toilet.
It's been interesting seeing people talking about returning to physical media to avoid having access to media taken away from them, which is essentially the pirate argument. Piracy has always been the answer, that's why they've worked so hard to criminalize it everywhere.
>that's why they've worked so hard to criminalize it everywhere.
But that hasn't happened burgerfat.
Outside of America Piracy is, at worst, a civil issue, not a criminal one. ie, the studios can sue you if they can figure out who you are, but the police have better things to do with their time.
And when I say at worst, in most jurisdiction piracy of most things is perfectly legal thanks to DVD regioning. See if something wasn't available on a region 4 DVD then there was no copyright to infringe in DVD region 4. And because copyright only entites you to the PROFIT from sales, as long as it wasn't being sold for money, it was perfectly legal.
Which meant that when the MPAA lawyers went to the Netherlands where TPB is based, the courts told them frick off back where they came from.
I said tried didn't I? Also, as I understand it, anti-piracy laws are actually more draconian in Germany than they are in America. Since Germany is the king of the European Union, I'm sure $10,000 dollar fines will be coming to a marsh near you very soon.
>American moment
I'm not European you fricking idiot. I'm Australian.
>I said tried didn't I?
No. You said "worked" implying they were successful.
In Australia it's even more hilarious, because you fatburgers started a practice called "speculative billing" by which you sent bills for whatever was pirated to the address coresponding to the IP address that did the pirating.
Of course in Australia geoloc doesn't work, and everyone had dynamic IPs, which meant you were sending bills to a bunch of old people, who didn't know what they were being "billed" for, with violated anti-scam laws, and got you a big ol' fine yourselves.
And we didn't even get to the part you're just going to love, which is the copyright over the file vs copyright over it's contents. You see you homosexuals wanting your "residuals" decided you wanted to sell Blu-Rays and digital copies to people who already owned the DVD, and to do that meant changing copyright laws from the contents of the file (which is the same on both DVD and Blu-ray) to the file itself.
Which meant any reencode, like for example every single file on bittorrent, wasn't copyrighted.
And there was the iinet case and dozens of other ones. It's now to the point where both sides of parliament can score some quick points telling hollywood lawyers to frick off.
They have worked, and they continue to work to make piracy illegal everywhere. You understand my meaning. Just because they haven't succeeded with the 25 million people who live on your island doesn't meant they aren't trying. I feel like you have a real chip on your shoulder about being australian, and for that reason you want to counterproductively deny the efforts of copyright holders to establish a global enforcement regime. The fact is they're still trying, and will continue to try.
Yeah newbie semantics is pointless here, you're anonymous, you don't have a face to get egg on.
>The fact is they're still trying, and will continue to try.
Oooh I don't think so.
You see they tried and wound up worse off for the trying pretty much everywhere.
At this point it looks like they've realized what the music industry realized 15 years ago, which is the lawyers cost more than any amount of money the lawyers might recoup.
You see as dumb as your israeli bosses are, I think they're actually a few steps ahead of you in realizing you're not charging admission any more, you're asking for donations.
And nobody has chip on their shoulder for being Australian. It's the lucky country.
Don't try to immigrate though, we're full.
>I'm new here
Why are you so butthurt
I'm not the one on strike dickhead.
If I'm so butthurt, why am I grinning?
I noticed your pussy country is still rolling over for the state department about Julian Assange's imprisonment. Aren't you lucky to be born in Air Strip 2?
Yeah I know it's hilarious how American journalism is a complete farce, also
Nice deflection moron. It's only 5 o clock, should you really be this drunk on a Thursday? (The actual day it is btw)
It's not a deflection. One aussie shitposter running around Europe with a laptop has embarassed you to the point where 20 years later you're still having to exhaust your State Department to try to shut him up, AND FAILING.
Meanwhile DFAT, which is like your state department except it's competent instead of corrupt, has to keep putting out your fires in South East Asia to try to contain China.
Fricking Jon Stewart does one episode about the Phillipines and you're whole hegemony goes into crises. It's a fricking clownshow. We should never have given up the empire, putting you c**ts in charge of the world was a mistake.
And again, international banter goes on
>We should never have given up the empire
You are literally a white Jamaican, you never had an empire. You pointed out several examples of how your country is a colonial possession of the United States that I frankly have never even heard of. This is what I mean about you having a chip on your shoulder. You are chattel for a foreign nation and your only response is to bury your head in the sand and pretend you've got it made.
>I frankly have never even heard of.
Yeah Black person, we know, your geography education is so bad it's a meme.
We did have an Empire, it was called the British Empire, it was fricking awesome and I tired of pretending it wasn't.
1776 was a mistake.
No I've heard of south east Asia and the Phillipines, I just don't know exactly how your government is forced to do ours' bidding (besides the Julian Assange case, which I follow because it's the most important free speech case in modern history.) Once again, you sound like a Jamaican bragging about the glory of the empire that ruled over them.
>just don't know exactly how your government is forced to do ours' bidding
Because it isn't you fricking idiot. Our Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) is forced to clean up your fricking messes, because you can't, and every time you try you just make it worse.
Frick you can't even rig your own elections without embarassing yourselves any more.
>you sound like a Jamaican
You know Australians are Anglo-saxon right? Tell me know at least that much.
>my race will save me!
Enjoy being south Africa 2.0.
>American geography education strikes again
White South Africans are DUTCH you fricking idiot.
You are an ignorant bogan
I'm not the one who can't find Indonesia on a map of Indonesia burgerfat.
>muh geography
Keep coping
Keep striking.
>I'm Australian
Into the trash you go.
>Netflix offers DVD rental by mail
>Netflix offers streaming.
>Netflix ends DVD rental by mail
>Netflix kills old content and makes "original" new content
They want to bring cable back. They want to be able to control what you watch when you watch it.
Yeah they can want it till they turn blue in the face, it's not going to happen.
Japan and vidya are killing them.
The whole reason Apple and Amazon were able to walk into hollywood and take over without so much as a by your leave was because there are no barriers to entry.
It's only a matter of time until foreign competitors start to gain traction. And then all of this goes from being the latest episode of America the dumb, to being a footnote in history.
Not surprised since there is no ad money to a continous source of revenue if the movie/show isn't something people keep subscribed to rewatch.
>uh-oh streamsisters maybe we shouldn't have reformatted those hds
Yeah this is a shitty sign for Disney. They LOST subscribers in the most recent quarter, and dumping content is a bad sign.
Disney should be adding content (and subscribers), they don't want to pay some low amount of residuals for a (one-time) tax write-off is bad.
Isn't shit like this the whole reason Megas XLR doesn't exist in the U.S. anymore? Cartoon Network wrote it off for tax purposes when their CN Real live action campaign was bleeding them money and because of that they can't legally broadcast, promote, or do anything that could potentially generate money from the show within the United States ever again.
That is so fricking gay it hurts. I loved this goddamn show more then anything.
I loved Megas kino of the highest order https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJVJcyc4m20
Anyone that's visits /misc/ more that 3 times should get banned from all other boards for 6 months.
like tears in the rain
Anything not worth releasing on bluray isn't worth archiving anyway.
>Disney fricks itself with woke crap
>it goes poorly
>lol tax break
>impairment charge
That's copespeak for "loss". They're getting assfricked HARD on streaming
>Spend millions of dollars on a show that is basically just today's entertainment
>Drop all episodes at the same time
>Can finish the show within one day
>Wait 2+ years to get another season
>Show largely fades from public consciousness
This is such a stupid idea. Unless embracing streaming was just inevitable, why would they want to give up infinitely more money than having the shows on cable and the revenue from physical media?
>Unless embracing streaming was just inevitable
Basically. They were already behind the curve and were chasing after Netflix. They thought doing a speed run for content would help them catch up, but they're producing crap, Covid fricked everybody in the ass, and people actually sat down to watch shit and determine that it's shit. So now they are fricked since it's practically transparent that nobody is watching this shit.
>we need to make as much content as possible to create value for our subscribers
>make woke pozzed shit
>waste millions making these
>nobody watch them
>pull it out to avoid paying royalties
What about making good shit that people want to watch and you could get money from it?
Trumpgays vote against their own economic interests
dam they really crashing this industry with no survivors
Content that gets written off for tax purposes should automatically fall into the public domain.
>Add item to my watchlist
>The month turns so it’s no longer free on prime
Fricking Black folk. I’m not gonna pay for this.
>Cracks fists
>So, pirate time?