Subvert/parody him without making some WHAT IF SUPERMAN WAS........ EVIL????????????? bullshit.

Subvert/parody him without making some WHAT IF SUPERMAN WAS........ EVIL????????????? bullshit.
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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if Superman just sucked at heroing
    Good heart, tries his best, never turns evil or snaps. but even with superpowers, everything he touches turns to shit. No "eureka moment", no slow improvement, he's just not deft enough to do the good he wants to do.
    >"Isn't that just Bizarro?"
    Kinda, but smart enough to know he's fricking up.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      So Hanwiener?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That would just be frustrating to read.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I read some book in which a Superman stand-in hangs out with Jesus Christ.
    I can't remember for the life of me what it was called but I liked the Superman stand-in and his problems that Superman rarely if ever deals with.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I found it

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Mark Russell
        Hmm, I'll have to check this out. His Flintstones was kino

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's worth a read, anon. It's pretty good.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but his home planet never actually blew up, his parents are just fricking deadbeats who couldn't be assed to take care of a child.
    So instead of growing up on their utopia of a planet he had to be raised on a place far worse.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's just Captain Hero

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but he's a massive moron that lex has to teach to become a hero

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hanwiener

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        frick

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hanwiener is the best way to do it, he's a jaded worn-out butthole but still a genuine hero

  6. 6 months ago
    LopiBats

    SHUT THE HELL UPP

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but a slug

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but he’s a coomer who spends hours cooming ignoring crime going on

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Superman who has the mindset of a forest gnome
    >lives in a humble cabin he built in a old growth forest in New England hundreds of years before the United States existed
    >for the most part he just ignores the world beyond his forest
    >people who frick with his forest find themselves seemingly teleported outside its boundaries
    >lost children tell of a nice man with a long white beard who'll lead them out of the forest and lost hikers are often find unconscious at ranger stations
    >has only ever gotten involved with superhero nonsense when the entire world is threatened
    >never sticks around to introduce himself to the few superpowered people he's met
    >has gone hundreds of years at a time without talking to a single person
    >lived hidden and happily alone until the modern world starts fricking with his home
    >logging, urban expansion and the like causes him to grow increasingly disillusioned with humans
    >days once spent doing nothing at all are now filled with him constantly trying to make people frick off
    >eventually it becomes known to the world that a extremely powerful person lives in the woods
    >now he has to worry about superhero constantly coming around trying to get him to do shit and villain constantly trying to start shit with him
    >after a frickwit in a clown outfit, he's unsure if it was a "hero" or a villain, kills a frog he was especially fond of, he just starts killing people who comes into his forest
    >it takes a really long time but the world soon learns to just live him to his gnome business

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Okay but this has nothing to do with Superman.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes it does. Its a gnome with Superman's powers.
        So its Superman but better.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Tom bombadil if he did jack all anything

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What if Tom Bombadill but he is... Le butthole

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman, but not human. He follows the same directive of being a good person and saving the world and fighting for what's right... except he's a hideous being that looks straight out of the Cthulhu mythos.
    He's this shapeless blob with fangs and spikes and a myriad eyes deforming tiself under a human-shaped suit, because he knows people would flip their shit if they saw he's a monstrous creature from another dimension.
    Not even a shapeshifter taking human form, he's just an eldritch abomination hiding in the fringes of society and just coming out to save the day.
    He arrived to earth and was taken by a lovely elderly couple who had empathy for it, he learned their ways and they kept him safe and hidden from government agents.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seems pretty similar to Martian Manhunter.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, but the Martian adopts a humanoid form. In this case, you'd be basically looking at a shoggoth or the thing crammed inside a humanoid-shaped suit a la Moltar. If the suit ruptures, the monster starts spilling out of it.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I really like this one. I feel like this change would actually help the cause of good. When villains fight Superman they just see him as a powerful man. If they went up against something as strong as Superman AND looked like that fricking thing they'd never do crime again.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gets a cat down from a tree
      Cat screeches and runs into traffic
      >Gets back the balloon a kid let go
      Kid pees their pants and runs away crying
      >Returns a woman's stolen purse
      She screams and calls the police
      >Helps an old lady cross the street
      She thanks him then puts on her glasses and has a heart attack

      I really like this concept. It reminds me a lot of classic Silver Surfer comics. The idea of struggling to do good and maintain your morality when everyone you save fears and despises you, with the temptation to just give in and become the monster they think you are ever present.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      We really need more benevolent abominations in media.

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but real. No, he's not evil the real world is just shit and he has the patience of a Saint. Like he trys to fix things and politicians, businessmen, and idiots of types get in his way. He'll be busy fixing the environment and people will show up with their cellphones out and ask "but what are you doing to help people of color? Hmmmm?"

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Metropolitan man

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based as frick. Metro/Music Man is unironically my favorite capeshit hero.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        cringe

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just do Miracleman but not gay. "Superman" arrives and tries to help people the best he can. First he tries doing whatever he thinks is best, only to back off when he sees how much chaos it causes. Then he tries to abide by the rules of society only to be left frustrated with how the world won't let him help people (because by design, it isn't meant to be fixed) without effectively crippling him. So in the end, he decides to help the weak and helpless on his own terms, even if it means the world labels him as an enemy. A long and bloody war follows, with "Superman" doing the best he can to protect the little guy as the world throws everything it has at him to stop him from undermining the status quo. In the end, he wins without having to compromise himself and become "evil" in any way. He roots out injustice.

    Hundreds of years later, the world is a utopia and the "Superman" is still alive. He sits back, and relaxes, shedding his outfit and going for a walk.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like this because this is actually realistic. If Superman were real, he'd likely face HUGE backlash from governments because they'd actually realize that he could help the little people and cause them to lose power indirectly. Even if they realize he doesn't want to be a tyrant, just his helpful presence alone is hugely disrupting. There'd be a huge smear campaign against him, even bigger than Spiderman's smear campaign, because Spiderman's only really usually relegated to just New York, while Supes can be virtually anywhere. It probably won't work because after year 10 of "SUPERMAN BAD", nobody will believe it after there's countless video evidence of him only saving people from harm and never killing anyone, not even by accident.

      I'd love to read this story and I kinda wonder why it hasn't been done yet.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It hasn't been done yet because most artists in the industry have been subverted by neoliberalism and are deathly afraid of losing their privileges and wealth to radical thinking and revolution at the hands of the working class.

        Think about why the MCU, Battinson, Nolan's TDKR, The Legend of Korra, and plenty of other recent stories have this problem where the antagonist is the only character to espouse active change but is made to be a baby-eater or a lying hypocrite all along, yet is the only character successful in societal change. Part of it is because these stories are being made by sheltered babies, part of it is because the executives and suits have more power and direction than ever, and part of it is because of neoliberalism reaching peak exposure (a plan in progress since WW2) as capitalism reaches late stage form.

        Don't fall for neoliberalism! Don't be happy with the status quo and systemic issues. Don't sit back and let other people burn the world down. Even if you can't break your chains, make stories or even THINK of stories where revolution is possible.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          I like this because this is actually realistic. If Superman were real, he'd likely face HUGE backlash from governments because they'd actually realize that he could help the little people and cause them to lose power indirectly. Even if they realize he doesn't want to be a tyrant, just his helpful presence alone is hugely disrupting. There'd be a huge smear campaign against him, even bigger than Spiderman's smear campaign, because Spiderman's only really usually relegated to just New York, while Supes can be virtually anywhere. It probably won't work because after year 10 of "SUPERMAN BAD", nobody will believe it after there's countless video evidence of him only saving people from harm and never killing anyone, not even by accident.

          I'd love to read this story and I kinda wonder why it hasn't been done yet.

          Radicalism is not bad, and it is in the nature of a hero to be Good, and being Good means defying an aligned authority. My "Superman" would be just that: he revolts against the aligned authorities. He isn't just fighting against one Lex, he's fighting a hundred Lex Luthors. He's fighting both the police and the cartels. He's the enemy of every intelligence agency and military on the planet. And he's the enemy of the town jackass who doesn't want affordable housing or better public transit in his neighborhood.

          Where there is a cruel tyrant (and bastards in league with him), "The Superman" is here to stop him!

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            who are you or this superman to ordain objective morality?

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              That would also be discussed. And "The Superman" would say...he IS the one to ordain objective morality. Because he's the only person with REAL power, power that human tyrants would dream of having. But he's wise and kind enough to know that punching down and hurting the weak isn't right.

              >"You have no right...!"
              >"And you're right. Human beings have no right to ordain objective morality. But you fail to question why you are taught that's the case while such a thing isn't prescribed for your rulers. And besides...I'm not human."

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                so he is just evil superman rehash?

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, because as listed above, he doesn't take a single life whether directly or indirectly. He never does. No brainwashing, no threats, no one is harmed. The only people that die are the ones still enslaved and butchered by the ruling class, and ultimately the authoritarians themselves at the hands of their people.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                to ordain yourself as the universal arbiter of objective morality in inherently evil no matter the man

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                And that's why he's an alien, silly. Or maybe he's a living idea...one not bound by human thinking.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                what you're basically describing is the dictator from demolition man with godlike power

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah except he's a good person, no subversions or twists or neoliberalism

                >AIEEEEEE THE LIVING IDEA OF A HERO WANTS TO USE HIS SUPERPOWERS TO BE GOOD TO OTHERS AND MAKE THE WORLD A UTOPIAN NOOOO NOT MY HECKING SHITTY NEOLIB STATUS QUO
                >lol, lmao, said the Superman

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                putting the world in a bottle is not what a good person does you are suggesting a character who inherently violates the notion of free will and is therefore objectively evil in all ways

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Implying he would take away anyone's free will

                sheesh

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                yes that's what he's doing

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not the anon you were replying too, but I think that what he's trying to say is that what he's doing is prevent deaths and violent acts. Stopping a cartel from slaughtering innocent civilians is not taking away free will.

                He's basically just enforcing the Non-aggression principle, which is basically the argument that all types of proactive aggression is unethical and immoral.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                Free Will as defined as the freedom to be an butthole towards others, is not something to uphold.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                you can't take away people's right to be buttholes

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                If superman can make any decision he wants and kill whoever he wants HE is the ruling class, making him the greatest hypocrite of all time.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >town jackass who doesn't want affordable housing or better public transit in his neighborhood.

            >No, I busted my ass for this land, I don't want to give it up for you to build a garbage apartment complex on it
            >Well I'm the Superman and I'll tear you in half if you don't give me your house

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              The idea that rando private citizens who worked for what they own are the people being "harmed" by affordable housing is embarrassingly stupid. The only people that own actual land, especially in the places where housing is desirable, are megacorporations, owned by people whose money comes from exploiting workers or straight up inherited from their parents.

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                >t.just turned 13 and totally knows exactly how the world works now

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're really starting to sound like a
                >dirty
                >collectivizing
                >COMMIE

              • 6 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are right and the world is slowly but surely going on the path you are suggesting. And that terrifies the ruling "elites".

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            >ENTER

            too bad anons couldn't appreciate him

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >nobody will believe it after there's countless video evidence of him only saving people from harm and never killing anyone, not even by accident.
        They'd just kill some random people and make it look like he did it.

  14. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if he is a fat old balding lovey dovey serial lover virile man.

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if Superman was...SUPPOSED to be le evil but instead fell in love with rule 63 Batman?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I should add, he plays the villain, so the world builds its defenses to be able to beat him only so they can be truly prepared to beat his people when they arrive to try and invade, revealing himself as a hero in the final hour.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Serious question, how Is SupermanXBatman not more of a thing? gay, genderbent, it's the most obvious ship in the world given the depth and history of their relationship. Yet I've never seen it anywhere in even a single elseworld story.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's more fun when it's not official

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why? Megamind already exists.

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Greatest American Hero

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm surprised there isn't a Superman parody whose entire goal is to find a way to leave earth. Like he is still very altruistic and goes around saving people, but his main goal is just to find a way to just leave. He doesn't want to go back to his home planet or whatever, he just wants to go up to space and disappear and explore the unknown. And he can't for whatever reason, whether that be he can't breathe in space or the technology isn't there.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't that just Watchmen? Sure Dr. Manhattan is Captain Atom but it's the same story.

      [...]
      Radicalism is not bad, and it is in the nature of a hero to be Good, and being Good means defying an aligned authority. My "Superman" would be just that: he revolts against the aligned authorities. He isn't just fighting against one Lex, he's fighting a hundred Lex Luthors. He's fighting both the police and the cartels. He's the enemy of every intelligence agency and military on the planet. And he's the enemy of the town jackass who doesn't want affordable housing or better public transit in his neighborhood.

      Where there is a cruel tyrant (and bastards in league with him), "The Superman" is here to stop him!

      Yeah you would write a fricking political tract instead of a story.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm surprised there isn't a Superman parody whose entire goal is to find a way to leave earth.
      There is.
      That's Icon's whole deal. Except he]s not really idealistic and had to be guilt tripped into leaving his house by Rocket. He still fricks off about 20 issues in though.

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the best thing that could be done for Supes is to revert him to factory specs- NO flying, heat-vision, cold-breath = NO god-like power.

    In the original incarnation he was closer to Mr. Incredible in power-specs; only LEAP over a building, not cross space. LIMITATIONS wold make him have to THINK more- especially if solar flares/night & kryptonite weakened him even more. Also, NO super-duper senses; so he would screw up when saving people with unintended consequences. Also have doubts about "good" -make him more human and relatable.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You have not read Superman comics.
      The Silver Age Superman comics, when he was at the peak of his power, were the ones which featured him having to think his way through problems the most. In the Golden Age he solved most problems through brute force. And having doubts about good has been an established part of Superman's character since the 70s, at least.

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >what if Superman was depressed

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    superman but he has 0 interest in being a hero and just wants to be left alone and live his life and he only ever saves the world if he absolutely has too because he's fully aware that "no matter how many times you save the world it always manages to get back into jeopardy"

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds sort of like Superman: Secret Identity.

      Like the idea of a Superman being nuerotic and unable to take a second off because of how many people he could be saving at any given time.

      Samaritan?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've always liked the idea of a guy with all these insane powers who wants to nothing with it, but he's constantly getting harassed by the gooberment that wants to control him, self-righteous heroes who think that him not wanting to dress like a clown and fight bad guys makes him literally Hitler and moronic villains trying to start fights with him or get him to join the bad guys. That's why Megamind's Metro Man is my favorite superhero. He realizes that the only winning move is not to play.

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but he does the Spider-Man thing of becoming a pro wrestler for money, only to realize he likes that better than hero-ing.

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman, but he's just me, an introverted autistic shut in who is afraid of social interaction.

  24. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Like the idea of a Superman being nuerotic and unable to take a second off because of how many people he could be saving at any given time.

  25. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman, but he was raised as a jingoistic butthole...but he legitimately believes all that shit rather than it being an excuse or a figleaf for him so like, imagine a Superman who 100% believes in like, pick a propoganda flavor for whatever country he lives in but ends up holding it to that standard aggressively so he just goes around thrashing black budget programs or taking down anyone who actively works against that. Like for example imagine like, I dunno a Japanese Nationalist Superman who ends up punching the frick out of the Ultranationalist block for "bringing shame to the nation and the Emperor" while unironically being more die hard.

    Not quite Red Son where he IS the lawful government, so much as just insanely supportive of what it claims it's supposed to be to a comical level to such a degree that he's actively raising hell for people who supposedly share his views.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Uncle Ruckus with Superpowers
      Oh god yes.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      So pre-9/11 Captain America with real superpowers.

  26. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Basically Mob if he was an alien, an indestructable and invincible but good natured boy goes through his daily life and stumbles upon villain plots or conflicts and ends up derailing them because of his powers

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot to add extremely repressed since that was a central element to the final arc.

  27. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    How about a Clark Kent investigative journalist story.

  28. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if Superman was a japanese Magical high school girl

  29. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Subvert/parody him
    What does that even mean anymore? even if you were to make him goofier or more light hearted that's not a subversion.

  30. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I remember I had an idea as part of my superhero universe for three separate Supermen

    One is more based on the Thing and can only maintain a human shape for a few hours, so the years of isolation have caused him to develop low self esteem. He is also worried because people are starting to think he might be evil

    One is a classic Homelander type who is evil and tries his best to appear as good. He is super egocentric and sees his power as a divine burden, often likening himself to Jesus

    The third acts like Xavier Renegade Angel

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >spoiler
      That is fricking terrifying.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks. He also has the silver age powerset

  31. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    superman but he wants to make money still a good guy but just expects payment for services rendered

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      luke cage

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >meteor barreling towards Earth
      >"Save us, SuperMerc!"
      >"Imma need about tree fiddy million"
      Based.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        the fortress of solitude does not pay for itself imagine the electric bills

  32. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but he rreeeeeeaaaaaaallly likes taking flying dumps.

  33. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hard scifi Superman who actively wants to revive Krypton in a world where he finds out that there are still hold-outs in stasis on the planet fragments, leading him to enlist the help of the JL, Lanterns and negotiate with other galactic powers whose territories now house planet fragments they're laying claim to
    Prince of Krypton, the lone diplomat of a lost planet

  34. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but black, there.
    >b-but
    You want something interesting, no? Black superman would be interesting at least.

  35. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    One of my stories I'm working on has a superhero community largely inspired by celebrity and influencer culture. They are supers because they want the fame, many are narcissists, Borderline personalities, the occasional authoritarian. Wildly unstable, extremely selfish, and think very little of the ordinary people. The Superman equivalent is a decent guy, but has become severely disillusioned after years of working in this environment and took a government deal to have all his needs met if he continues to make largely superficial public appearances to reassure the public and act as an inspiration, then go back to his quiet life stewing in bitterness. I have considered doing eother a subplot or a side story in which he begins to notice a monumentally dangerous supervillain that has been sitting in the background plotting without being noticed by anyone and ends up dealing with the problem in a very Batman style way, where punching the problem would be way too overt a solution, so instead he relies on a quiet investigation using his wits more than his powers.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      This feels like a My Hero Academia fanfic but told from one of the adults' point of view

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        Isn't that just Tiger & Bunny?

        I haven't seen either. Wouldn't be surprised at all if it had been done before though, I'm a pretty shit writer!

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not from the perspective of a jaded Superman expy yet, iirc
          There's room still, anon

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      This sounds interesting. Kind of reminds me of the choose your own adventure game series "Heroes Rise". One of the games is basically a Superhero gameshow that's run by a gay midget in a wheel chair and almost everyone acts like a bigshot, out of touch celebrity douchebag.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      This feels like a My Hero Academia fanfic but told from one of the adults' point of view

      Isn't that just Tiger & Bunny?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tiger and Bunny, despite coming earlier, has less emphasis on the "celebrity superdouche" concept than MHA if I remember, since they placed more emphasis on the mystery aspect

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ratman did it for a bit but got wind of its early cancelation and so dropped the bulk of it smaller arcs and so on to have enough time to rush into its endgame. OPM does a bit of it as well but it's usually not the main focus because you're not really supposed to think or care all that much about how the world functions.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      My Hero Academia

  36. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zack Snyder's Superman, but without the alien invasion in the first movie or Darkseid fricking things up later on, what would happen if things hadn't gone to shit almost immediately?

  37. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if Superman was a relatively weaker neighborhood watch type guy? Like Batman, but in the day, and also he doesn't try to hide his identity and is typically dealing with lower level criminals?

    He'd still have super strength and speed and such, but he wouldn't be as typical superman. Also, he has a wife and kids and has to juggle that with his neighborhood watching.

  38. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dictator Superman, but actually, everything is a lot better.

  39. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think the key with Superman is not being cynical. He is meant to be an aspirational paragon. My variant would be a version where he's not an alien, but the literal antichrist. He would be found by the police at the site of a mass suicide in Kansas and taken in by a social worker and her husband. He struggles with a psychopathic mindset and becomes more and more delinquent as he ages and develops his powers, but his parents never give up on him, and manage to curb his worst impulses before they become lethal. It would be an exploration of how someone with no capacity for empathy could still strive to be a good person. Maybe he's motivated by his pride, or his abhorrence of the notion that it's his 'fate' to bring evil to mankind. I've always hated the notion that someone could be born evil and never change regardless of their choices. I would want this story to be a triumph against that, and an example of how a psychopathic person could live morally.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Interesting idea. I've heard stories about parent who had sociopathic children and how the managed to raised them to be decent people. I might be remembering it wrong, but I think instead of trying to raised them to be "good" and "moral" they raised them to be law abiding and honest by saying that if they want to live in a society that benefits them, they need to always honor social contracts and treats others how they want to be treated.
      They essential try them into lawtists.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        That can work. Another thing is to like the often high levels of self absorbtion and ego into a positive standard and create a logical loop [IE I'm the best and the best behaves a certain way, IE like a good person, ergo since I'm the best I must behave that way because I'm the best and that proves it] as well as helping them reattach the psychological triggers for an emotional response they do have that are positive to a positive action [the reason so many end up being serial killers is that for a lot of them in that spectrum of crazy, they basically have a lizard brain and the happy button isn't wired properly, so basically they get high off of emotional chemicals and whatever triggers them more or less, it's complicated]

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          "There are many more barriers to cross. All I have in common with the uncontrollable and the insane, the vicious and the evil, all the mayhem I have prevented despite my utter indifference toward it remains mysterious. My pain is constant and sharp, but the meaning I derive from my work seems to justify that suffering. I would learn more of my pain, and why I so desperately wish it to be inflicted on others, regardless of my refusal to do so. There is no catharsis, save that which my pride brings me. My infernal rewards will forever elude me if I have my way, though this raises more questions about myself than answers. This confession confounds me, but out of respect for my pride, I will not stop."

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's a cool idea. Like how Lucifer rebelled due to his pride you can do something similar with the antichrist rebelling against his proscribed fate

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        You could have that break a lot of the eschatological aspects of his coming. Seals not being broken when they are supposed to, horsemen of the apocalypse becoming recurring villains, infernal and divine forces trying to tempt him away from his path, God being unusually silent throughout all of it, the Devil being frustrated and pissy, but also opportunistic. What might he strive for knowing that both heaven and hell exist (and actively want the apocalypse to play out) but rejecting both?

  40. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Superman but he's a Norse warlord
    >lands on Earth in Iceland during the early 1000s
    >goes on raids pretty much by himself with a skeleton crew to man the ships and to carry the spoils and to fight with him so he feels like a mighty warlord
    >travels by boat simply because he loves sailing and he's too much of a stupid brute to realize he can fly
    >goes full Genghis Khan and leaves half-Kyptonian babies all over the world
    >legitimately sees himself as an Aesir, rules Iceland as a god king
    >does this for centuries, never really feeling the need to actually conquer new land as he can simply steal the shit he's people needs
    >never really gets bored of doing the same things over and over, but loves the chance to fight Amazonians and the like so he can have a proper challenge
    >like a Warhammer ork, he can be tard wrangled into fighting bad guys by saying "he said you're a weak b***h, you going to let him get away with that?"

  41. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but as urban legends. Superman work secretly and he doesn't want the public to know he existed.

  42. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman never ages so he out-grows everyone.
    Everyone he knows dies so he goes into isolation into the Sun and was soon forgotten after several centuries.
    After a million years, Humanity evolved into an entirely distinct species that became unrecognizable
    and the Human form, the values & language that Mankind had a million years ago had changed so much that they had become completely abhorrent to the Golden Child and he finds that he is no longer welcomed in the Solar system.

    So Superman ventures out of the Solar system on a quest to find Old Humanity in an entirely alien universe where Humanoid life have become all but extinct.

    A grungy lonely Kansas ranger wandering the Universe for meaning and purpose

  43. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't that just All-might

  44. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Superman who kills
    >but kills exclusive super villains
    >completely ignores normal crimes that police and the citizenry can handle themselves, but the moment some mentally ill frickwit with a stupid backstory puts on a costume and tries to do some convoluted plot, he immediately turns them into red paste
    >doesn't even wear a costume, he just kills as fast as possible and goes right back to his everyday business
    >the moment some "no kill" super hero tries to lecture him he just disappears

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      What happens if he accidentally liquifies an innocent?

  45. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Uh I don't know. What if Superman despite all his power felt powerless and desired even more power to be an even better hero? Like the most powerful man in the universe is still too weak to save everyone and feels crippling guilt from it. Just presume he has the ethic backbone to not devolve into a tyrant or power-hungry moron.

  46. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if Superman was good?

  47. 6 months ago
    Anonymous
  48. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but he has some unpopular opinions while otherwise remaining a good guy.

  49. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    One Punch Man
    Red Son (Not Evil, Indoctrinated)
    Omniman (Not Evil, Indoctrinated)
    Superdog (Lol)
    Super Girl (Lmao)
    Eventually Man (Can save you, will not)

  50. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but he fricks
    A lot
    Like, at least 5 times

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's just Zeus.

  51. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if Superman racist?

  52. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but he's replaced by superwoman and she's obsessed with kidnapping guys and fricking them until they're broken, bloody and dead and I am the first guy

  53. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Corporatize him similar to The Boys but make him a decent person who has to play to a system he never intended to exist. i.e. Superhero origin story and world governments immediately scramble to restrict, regulate and try to put a lid on Supes. What ends up happening is that there are Suit Supes (working in the government or for licensed agencies) and Street Supes (should be pretty obvious). Story focuses on the dichotomy of overregulation vs free market. Not really taking a side, just showing the natural consequences of enforcing any system be it ethical or otherwise.

    So you get this fricking goody two shoes John Cena poster boy who goes arounds saving kittens because he isn't authorized to actually use his powers for good. This doesn't make him become disillusioned with the system to try and revolt against it, just depressed that the world won't allow him to do something for the benefit of others without massive legal bullshit. He knows bucking is only going to hurt more people, not that he doesn't have the will to do so. Overall a "Legality isn't Morality" lesson, also heavy fascist overtones of a Strongman being denied by the limp wristed bureaucrats (Jews) and how society as a whole suffers.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      how original and subversive indeed

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        thanks I know ;.;

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >also heavy fascist overtones of a Strongman being denied by the limp wristed bureaucrats (Jews) and how society as a whole suffers.
      you almost had something there kid

  54. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Character who is a super hero not due to their morals or belief in greater good but due to their vision and hearing they cannot tune out crime and so fight it only to try and get a moments peace. I imagine them as either a younger teen/adult driven by the guilt of it or an old very tired man who has their own fortress of solitude scenario just to find a semblance of peace from the noise of it. The fame only adds to their guilt/more people calling to help them.

  55. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman, but evil, but he's not actually evil, just a Saturday morning cartoon villain who's completely self-aware.
    See, Clark originally tries heroing in Smallville and the surrounding area, but runs into the problems anon has described. People don't trust someone with superpowers, no matter how much he's trying to help. Governments view him as a threat. Corporations want to control him to profit off of him. No matter what he does, he keeps getting pushback for trying to do the right thing.

    So he flips the script and invents his new "Superman" persona. And as Superman, he gets into villainy. But none of his villainy is actually for self-benefit or evil purposes, instead he intentionally comes up with plans designed to rally humanity in the right course of action to stop him. He starts a rumour about how he gains his powers through increased amounts of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere so the world governments switch to green energy and halt deforestation. He makes a big show about tanking missiles and tank shells to the chest, which fricking hurts but he's a good actor, so they put their R&D into other projects. He makes himself known as a major backing force behind whatever groups he doesn't like so that action is taken against them, no matter how much they deny a connection to him.
    He realizes that humanity progresses and rallies together when they have a threat to unite against, so he becomes that threat, even though he doesn't mean it.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Calm down Veidt

  56. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    what if superman but he was OUR HERO.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ok but the other way around, put Supes in Dragonball

  57. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but he's a coomer.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pedoman
      Genuinely how could you tell the godlike man he can't diddle kids even after saving the earth a hundred times over?

  58. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman is a literally god in antique sense. He lives in a solitude fortress, married to Wonder Woman, but she's b***hing a lot, so sometimes he bangs regular girls. There're temples dedicated to him, people pray to him, sometimes he fixes their problems, usually don't, sometimes he makes it worse. Sometimes he just do bizarre shit just for fun.

  59. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like "what if Superman's ship landed somewhere else" scenarios since it's a simple and realistic change that can have major ramifications. The most famous one is of course Red Son, but there were True Brit where he lands in England and Speeding Bullets where he's raised by the Waynes. There are many other interesting scenarios that could come from this.
    >lands in Kahndaq and is raised by an oppressed family. As he grows up he fights the dictatorial government and the people believe him to be the reincarnation of Teth-Adam. Then the real Teth-Adam shows up.
    >lands in Markovia and is adopted by the royals, becoming a foster brother to Geo-Force and Terra. Maybe ascends to king somehow.
    >lands in Temyscira and is adopted by Hyppolita. The entire island becomes his harem when he grows up. He's also much stronger because he has powers and Amazon training/ferocity.
    >adopted by Sam Lane and his wife, becomes a military/government lapdog type of superhero. Being Lois' brother might be awkward.
    >there's also the possibility of Jor-El choosing to send him to another planet altogether. New Genesis, Almerac and Daxam could be interesting ones.

  60. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've always liked Icon.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stupid Black person bullshit.
      >just leaves the ottoman empire around even though they castrate his co-racialists

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shhhhhhh, only white people did slavery sweetie
        They invented it and no other race ever did it

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You want to save your family from slavery? Well why didn't you stop all slavery everywhere on Earth? Checkmate, liberals.

  61. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but as a Catholic Mexi-oh wait they did that already. God I wish this AU wasn't scrapped after the first movie.

  62. 6 months ago
    SUPER AGGRO CRAG

    what if superman was bald and lex luthor had hair

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lex would still be in a hair metal band probably

  63. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but his mind snaps due to all the team ups and all the battles. Like not in a edgy way where he blows stuff up. But he's internally screaming when Batman calls him up to tell him that Darkseid is attacking the planet minutes after he just punched Zod back to the Phantom Zone.

  64. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if Superman was a Drag Queen... guuurl they were fabulous in the scenary, fly, jump, splits.

  65. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mulan Superman. It's a white woman who pretends to be a man to superhero because no one wants to be saved by a woman.

  66. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just book Superman in the Marvel Universe at its c**tiest. Still a fantastic person who is a beacon of hope who fights for truth, justice and the american way but alienphobic citizens and constant bureaucracies in SHIELD keep downplaying, if not outright trying to ruin him. Avengers never meeting him so they think he's up to some Squadron Supreme bullshit. The "most hated man in the superhero community" that will fight for every single one of them, despite constant and consistent conflict.

  67. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman, but he's a literal flying brick.

  68. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but he's the best martial artist/fighter in the world.

  69. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but he lands in our reality. DC sues him for trademark infringement

  70. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but all he does is save black women

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >captain save-a-hoe

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, but only if he dresses and talks like a pimp. He's not actually a pimp, he just appreciates the aesthetic.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        superpimp taking down the rest of the pimps so all the black women are his

  71. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but his pod accidentally landed in the Sun instead and he's basically omnipotent space Tarzan.

  72. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Clark but he's not just a kind farmboy from a small town but a full on good ole boy Hick and his sense of justice isn't just being good because he has a responsibility to but the small town ideal of don't be a dick or I'll fricken scrap.

  73. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hanwiener probably.
    He's just kind of clumsy and incompetent.

  74. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Penultiman was a good subversion/parody. He's a super evolved human from the future with all the powers of Superman, except he was created as a throwback by the even more evolved megamind geniuses from the even further future he's considered a brutish caveman so he has a huge inferiority complex about it.

  75. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's Superman but he chooses to suppress the powers and lives a mundane life (never moves to Metropolis)

  76. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman, but he's a paranoid conspiracist both in the IRL and his superform. Doing totally incomprehensible shit because there's some dark terror from outer space he can sense, and being proven right, but still never getting his blog or youtube channel (with him in a car) off the ground.

  77. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman is SO powerful that he can't meaningfully interact with the human world. A man who can benchpress the weight of the planet should not have enough muscle control to do something as delicate as hold a pencil or shake someone's hand.

    So this superman comes from space, punches through people, breaks bones when he tries to shake hands, destroys everything he grips, and effectively is exiled from the human world except in times of crisis.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >should not have enough muscle control to do something as delicate as hold a pencil or shake someone's hand.
      Why? Strongmen aren't ripping people's arms off

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hey kiddo. Not sure if you knew this, but deadlifting 1,200lbs is a little bit different than lifting 5,972,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000lbs.

  78. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superman but he isn't a super genius also and makes mistakes sometimes without being a huge fricking homosexual about it.

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