How do these projects even get green lighted when nobody asked for them?
For all the talk of focus groups and shit. How could they possibly think this would sell well?
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I asked for it
No you didn’t
Source: knower
Just another case of powerful activist telling fans what they want instead of actually listening to them tell them what they "do" want.
These activist are being backed and proved up by the intelligence agencies,and their assorted front companies and funkies in all fields of industry (Blackrock,Sweetbaby ETC.) these demon possessed people have literally declared war on us about 15 years ago, and people now are just finally catching on to this.
As yourself this guys..why do these projects keep bombing with audience's only for them to keep going inspirte of the yearly outcry against them from the public at large..why doesn't our money and how me spend it count for anything anymore?
Start asking good questions folks and eventually you'll come to some good answers.
Thanks for outing you shit tastes I guess.
Maybe you have shit taste. What's your favorite superhero? If you don't reply you're a craven and a coward.
nah you are
People wanted a SS game; but something in the vain of like.. X-Com; where you’ve got a lot of the villains available, you can send them on missions, and they could permanently die. Not whatever this shit WB forced on Rocksteady
But killing off fans favorite hero characters, in their first (and only) appearance in the existing incredibly popular arkham universe. Is insane.
They could have easily retooled this early on in development and faced far less backlash. When was ANYBODY who was a fan of the Arkham games or DC in general happy about the idea of the suicide squad killing the justice league in between quips?
Things they could have retooled easily if they’d just did basic fan research early on
>have suicide squad game where you DON’T murder beloved heroes then piss on them and insult them, have a suicide squad game where you take down villains while the justice league is busy in space or trapped or some shit
>DON’T try to force it into the Arkham universe if you feel the need to make bizarre changes (Black deadshot is the REAL deadshot, White Floyd was an imposter…. Even though the white guy made the impossible shots while this black deadshot just sprays and prays every time?)
>don’t have writers try to insert Borderlands style “comedy” into every scene
Also just feels incredibly bizarre to see the narrative of this universe. Batman is unmasked as Bruce and goes into hiding. Becomes new-batman. Then reveals he’s alive a few years later and publicly joins the justice league? It’s so convoluted. There was no need to have it set in th same canon since they’re not focusing on the heroes at all anyway
Same with Harley. Arkham Harley is one of the most evil versions. Killing and torturing kids. Murdering randoms. Why the frick is she taking down to batman about being “emotionally abusive” before killing him? It’s not the same Harley, it’s the generic pop culture version that’s replaced the one from Arkham even though she’s meant to be the same.
I’m not even gonna get into the gameplay mechanics, live service games are not popular but clearly they’re profitable and that’s why publishers keep pushing them. But they’re not gonna be profitable When they don’t sell to begin with. They’re asking a big budget price for this shit then the live service extras on top.
My guess is they will re-release it for free in a few months to a year to try and recoup their investment via people paying for those extras. That’s happened a few times now
I was flabbergasted when I heard it was a shooter, why the frick have someone like King Shark if you’re just going to just slap a gun into his hands
The retcon was revealed to be he is Floyd Lawton, just Floyd Lawton from another universe. It's multiverse BS that makes zero sense but whatever. There's just two dudes named Floyd Lawton who do the same thing now instead of using fricking Will Evans for black deadshot
wtf. How did he get from his universe to this one. And why is he under Wallers control, and why is he personally angry at alternate versions of people he never actually met?
If there was an alt universe version of someone i hate i would hate them too for being a version of the person i hate
The white Deadshot is the one from the alternate universe; and they don't even bother explaining how he got here. The black Deadshot is the one from the Arkham verse, and he's under Waller's control because he came out of retirement and, while he was fighting the white Deadshot, killed a lot of people and got arrested.
And he hates Green Lantern for being an Uncle Tom, somehow?
What bothers me the most is that kind of shit could be used as a really interesting statement. You've got a black guy calling another black guy an Uncle Tom because the second guy actively stops all sorts of crime and violence across the universe while he murders people for money and is working as a black ops killer for an upper class black woman who treats people like chattel and thinks human rights are joke who is quite literally The Man.
What was even stopping them from retooling and remaking Deadshot into Bloodsport? Blizzard had to do an emergency 180 to remake McCree into Cassidy for Overwatch, but at no point did Rocksteady ever consider stopping development just to swap out references to Deadshot for a different character. That smacks of extreme laziness.
>but it costs money
WB had all the money when they were shackled to AT&T and Discovery. What was stopping them from asking more money to fix this massive continuity error?
See
They announced the game (and had a trailer) in 2020.
Will Smith couldn't show up in Gunn's Suicide Squad because of scheduling conflicts (or so they say) but it's likely at the time the game was mostly in the works, WB was hoping Smith would come back for another Suicide Squad movie.
Something else to remember is that this game was originally intended to release in 2022 so they didn't know that Zaslav would take over WB, Gunn and Safran would reboot everything, and Will Smith would make himself a pariah in Hollywood. By the time all those things happened they were probably way too far along to change anything
what is the context to this image?
Black Mask says "I'm an LGBTAI ally, I needed the money"
The founders are serious capeshit fans. They absolutely knew. There's signs of big WB meddling all over the project, and the founders were removed several years ago and replaced by dumber than hollywood writers.
I still think they could have pulled it off if they threaded the needle, were respectful to the JL, got the tone right, and made it clear it was a mind control with no actual JL death on the line thing.
But they went with people who thought they could do a "FRICK THE POLICE" story like ennis, except without his level of self control.
I can't believe I just said someone needed the self control of ennis.
>made it clear it was a mind control with no actual JL death on the line thing.
They fricking did. None of them are dead and are confirmed to be alive in the coming seasons.
>implying this piece of shit will last that long
Jagged Alliance would be the perfect setup for a Suicide Squad game.
While that would be cool and fitting, i don't think there's that much overlap between DC readers and XCOM like enjoyers
>People wanted a SS game
Did they? I'm becoming more and more convinced Suicide Squad isn't actually popular
It had a movie in 2016 that a bit under your standard Marvel film, and a bunch of white chicks dressed as Harley Quinn for Halloween. This caused Warner Bros. to greenlight a Harley Quinn movie, a sequel Suicide Squad movie, a TV series based off one of the Squad members, and this game.
None have been particularly successful.
WHO? WHO THE FRICK WANTED THIS?
it's just procedurally generated content cooked up by content farms to leech money out of an audience. It's not intended to actually become a phenomenon, it's just supposed to fish for a handful of whales who will spend thousands of dollars on loot crates.
I think permadeath is the biggest thing. It's a fricking Suicide Squad game. The entire purpose of the Suicide Squad is that they're disposable nobodies that Waller throws into a meat grinder. Why the frick would you make a suicide squad where suicide squad can't actually die? That's like making a Spider-Man game where he's not allowed to use his webbing.
>something in the vain of like.. X-Com; where you’ve got a lot of the villains available, you can send them on missions, and they could permanently die
That's also what I was thinking for a Suicide Squad game. Make your own disposable D-listers and missions are given by the more famous characters.
I think Suicide Squad as a series actually suffers from success, hard to believe. It's core concept was D-list villains led by a B-lister and any of these characters can die. It's a huge difference from regular cape comics that are famous for nobody actually dying. It got popular, editors wanted A-listers involved to capitalize on that popularity, now we have a core cast of A and B listers that aren't ever getting killed, and the original popular concept has been defeated.
tl;dr Harley Quinn ruins everything.
It's more complicated than that. There has been a massive shift in how readers see C- and D-list characters since the 80s. Back then there was a genuine mindset among creatives that they needed to cull supervillain rosters because there were too many villains seen as silly, outdated, or redundant which led to ideas like Suicide Squad or Scourge of the Underworld at Marvel. By the late 90s and the growth of the internet there was much more visibility in how fans actually felt about characters, more connections between fans, and more of an opportunity to go back and read older issues which led to an increasing pushback by readers who enjoyed the characters. Suddenly it starts getting really hard to write a book about characters who could die in any issue when it's going to piss off a chunk of your readers if any of them do die. Plus, since you had to actually use those characters you had to develop them which meant not just readers getting attached to some single appearance nobody but also the creatives. So yeah, Harley Quinn is never going to get killed off in SS, but SS has the problem of no one wanting to read a book that keeps killing off characters they like.
>tl;dr Harley Quinn ruins everything.
There shoudl be a game or comic with that title.
Yeah, the PIECES are their for something interesting but it's the F list of the vidia world and not Chris Priest or Ennis or anyone with any skill.
From the opening pitch anon. The tone is all fricking wrong.
which is why gunn's movie was a decent suicide squad movie
Kino
The XCOM team already made a superhero game just recently and it tanked hard.
wait, midnight suns came out? Why did I hear absolutely nothing about it? I had it filed in the back of my brain as something to check out when it was going to be released.
>wait, midnight suns came out?
It came out over a year ago.
There's no possible way that's true. I'm not going to look it up, because I'm lazy, but I'm just going to pretend it came out a week ago and got overshadowed because the thought that it came out like holiday 2022 or whatever is too embarrassing for the industry for me to handle. I'm the target audience and if I didn't know it even came out, that's staggeringly bad for everyone involved. Like, "oh, we forgot to put an engine in this billion dollar nuclear submarine" bad.
Yeah, but that's a deck builder.
Honestly just L4D2 with SS would have worked. Just don't make them go against heavy hitters, but controlled fellow villains like Solomon Grundy or Giganta.
It's greenlit*
Depending on timing, maybe it was driven by James Gunn's film getting decent reception, though with it not being a big money maker, I don't know there. The issues with narrative and characterisation come in part from Sweet Baby Inc, a writing consulting firm that specialises in ESG compliance in a game's writing. But for a company to hire those psychos, my view is that the company's previous successes drew in investment and the more investors there are, the greater the push to replace the driving creative forces with diversity hires. A result of bigger investment bodies hacking greater influence over a company, and/or just a result of growing your HR department who push for this sort of replacement of staff.
If you mean the game mechanics focus being set up as a 'games as a service' type, they want addicts, and in their minds they are seeking more profitable markets than the original game's fandom. A result of replacing passionate creators with those described above, and common to see in any producer that describes the existing fans as babies or other outrage marketing tactics.
I just wanted more lore rich atmospheric DC world to explore with a character or characters that have tight mechanics that feel unique to them.
Seeing videos of their metropolis (the actual city roaming parts) and it looking so fricking bland was sad. The game looking so much worse overall than their game a decade previous is another tell of how their creative process has become completely subverted.
>Game based off a failed movie series
>Where are the reviews
You seriously think journalists would bother with shit that gets no clicks?
Rocksteady pulled all the review codes they already sent out to publications after initial mid reviews.
Not even bad reviews. Mixed ones. Then they shut down all review copies.
Bizarre
Do you think it's more damning for your game to be called mid than outright bad?
Unironically, it is. Bad can unintentionally be an incentive for people to buy, there's always suckers who can be convinced to try something bad cause at least that's unique. Mid is essentially destined for the bargain bin within less than a couple months.
"Bad" is usually a consequence of a issues and mistakes.
"Mid" is usually a consequence of trying to play it safe.
So mid is something that's more likely to be repeated. It also tends to be more forgettable.
>Game based off a failed movie series
Its a shame because the second one was actually quite good.
Anybody who disagrees with me is getting a knife fight.,
The Suicide Squad was the only good movie that's come out of DC in a long-ass time.
I've heard Snyder's cut of JL is decent and tolerable, but I haven't bothered to watch it yet and don't have my own opinion of it.
I like the first Shazam.
I don't care if it makes me a zoomer in everyone's minds I'm 30 by the way, it's just nice to have a straight-up heartfelt superhero movie that isn't weighed down by edge or obnoxious irony.
Shame about the sequel though.
>based off a failed movie series
First film was shit, the second was bretty gud
Second film bombed too
>don't provide review copies
>where are the reviews??!
To clarify what happened, most review outlets weren't given a copy of the game until it released but IGN were completely refused a review code.
IGN broke NDA with the press footage stuff they put out.
Also the funniest shit about all the complaints about how the JL was killed is they aren't actually dead. The game heavily hints to you that they're still alive, on top of files being datamined from future seasons where they come back.
>implying this piece of shit will last that long
What the frick are you talking about?
>that bullet to the head? Didn't work, we heavily implied that.
Superman walks off a giant kryptonite dagger to the heart, the GL constructs stay around after john dies and barry shows up without a missing finger when you see him again. Lex also states somethings wrong with all the DNA of them all, so it's quite clearly brainiac clones or some shit considering he immediately grabs the bodies when they go down.
That just sounds like plots they didn't properly resolve.
That'll be what the "Season 5" or some shit teaser that totally invalidates the Title of the game.
We already have datamined files of flash and GL talking in season 1 and 2 when both of those drop. It;s to keep people playing
She literally shoots him in the cowl and there's an entire part in the hall of justice we're it's very clear the cowl is bulletproof. There's not even a pool of blood when the camera pulls out.
Listen I think this game is moronic as well but you gotta know your facts to appropriately shit on it
>Make a shittier version of an existing product
>Give them capeshit skins
>"Where are my reviews!"
>"Where are my sales!"
Just play Overwatch is better in literally every way.
Well it was. Then Blizzard fricked it.
why the frick does that AIslop have a signature?
It's AI-assisted slop, not AI slop, please give Patroen monies 😉
Wrong genre buddy. It's going for the Destiny/The Division looter shooter crowd.
>Destiny
Sony fricked them so hard that they pulled out their entire intestinal tract.
>The Division
That's shuttering soon, if The Crew is of any indication.
>That's shuttering soon, if The Crew is of any indication.
I have no idea who the crew is supposed to appeal to. It’s a live service car racing game where the multiplayer is the worse part of the game.
why she look asian?
Reminder they cancelled the Batman Beyond game for this shit show, they had a working beta build (probably just from same Arkham engine and assets). Concept art and had Josh Keaton signed on to voice Damian-Beyond Batman
>could have had old man mecha Bruce Batman fighting Bizarro
I like this older Two Face. Was he gonna be the only old originak villain still alive?
So they were gonna bring back Ivy the same way in that too. Obviously she’s older in the concept art because it’s further along in the timeline.
Either she gets brought back or a woman copies her style. Maybe she doesn’t have Ivy’s powers and that’s what those gas tubes she’s wearing are for. So she can do similar stuff artificially
Black Mask woman looks cool.
Dick Grayson looks exactly like Paul Walker. Wonder what role he’d have. Police insider or something maybe
Do you think people really want to run around Gotham at night with futuristic gear when they can play as the villains and piss on the heroes?
maybe if it actually felt like a playing super villain with unique iconic powers and abilities instead of a shitty generic fortnight character with a moronic gun and wearing a DC character skin.
This is my feeling too, it's a capeshit story I expected contrived garbage. I could've overlooked that given the Arkham games has contrived moments too, but you don't even play like the villains. Was it really too hard to make Boomerang's kit based of the baterang tech, or have Shark be purely melee since he's punch up towards Aquaman levels. Why does everyone need a gun and a grapple mechanic?
It’s an open world game so they all have to be able to travel at the same speed and agility level.
The guns thing is stupid. They should have had different characters specialise meaning you’d swap between them depending on the enemy
>need to break shields? Use king shark
>need sniper and shooting? Deadshot
>need area of effect? Boomerang
>need… I dunno, stealth? Agility? Harley
The Guardians of the Galaxy game was single player and you only technically play as Peter Quill but it was brilliant. You could use the techniques of your team members while you did your thing with the guns and jetpack
Also surprisingly not too MCU affected. I learned more about the comics guardians from the game than the movies. Only the designs were kind of close to MCU and they offered (free in game unlockable) skins anyway
Funny because I remember people hating on this game up to release and it turned out great
I remember wanting to beat the absolute shit out of the raccoon in this game he was so fricking annoying
The GOTG game got severely hurt by the bad reputation of Square's Avengers, which is why it wasn't a big success despite being a much, much better game
It's not perfect (the combat gets repetitive eventually and, on harder difficulties, there's a lot of bullet sponge enemies towards the end), but it manages to be a lot of fun regardless. The writing and character work is better than most other AAA games, the level/environment design is really good, and overall it manages a nice blend of basic aspects taken from the Gunn movies (i.e., the team and their backstories) mixed in with a lot of the more interesting niche elements from the comics (both the classic stuff and the DnA stuff in the 00s)
Haven`'t played it but the team lineup is straight out of the MCU, that's probably the biggest MCU influence
The whole reason the Flash gets brainwashed in the first place is because he nearly fails trying to stop a bullet from killing Harley Quinn. Literally dying to save them...
...and their response is to pee on him and make a big dick joke.
Hundreds of millions went into the development of this game. This is how DC treats their fans.
Robin/Nightwing fans realized this a decade ago between the double-helping of bullshit of the Injustice and Arkham games.
Good to see everyone else finally catching up.
>a-are those villains acting like villains?! AAAH I'M BEING DEMORALIZED!!!
I can smell the copro-wiener on your breath, homosexual.
I think it looks like a shitty bulletsponge game and I'm not going near it, just like I didn't go near the last Batman game where you played as all the runts. But it's really fricking stupid to complain about villains acting villainous in a game that tells you in the title that they're going to kill the justice league. It's not like the Suicide Squad is some unknown entity and the players might have been surprised about the game being about butthole villains being tasked with killing the justice league. You might as well complain about Frank killing Captain America in The Punisher Kills The Marvel Universe.
>You might as well complain about Frank killing Captain America in The Punisher Kills The Marvel Universe.
Well yeah they should, that was a weak comic
You don't have to like it, certainly, but if you read it despite not liking heroes being killed and then show up saying "they had Frank shoot Cap in the back of the head while calling him an butthole....
this is how Marvel treats their fans" then you're simply stupid. Complaining about the fact that the heroes are killed in shitty bulletsponge shootouts that are completely interchangeable is however completely valid.
>"they had Frank shoot Cap in the back of the head while calling him an butthole
NTA, but the writing quality of that scene had 100 times more emotional impact than anything in the nu-Rocksteady turd.
That said while I usually like Ennis but it's one of his weaker works that's the epitome of "lone ex-military man against the world" wank a lot of people don't like him for. Literally at its most obnoxious. Just goes to show how bad this game is if it makes that Punisher comic look good.
And just one more thing I should've mentioned about this comparison.
Punisher Kills The Marvel Universe gets away with killing all superheroes and supervillains, because it's treated like an absolute bad end. It wasn't quippy reddit shit with no real consequences, the horror of the situation is treated with all the seriousness such a plot requires
Ignoring the ridiculous Punisherwank plot armor that could be unintentionally hilarious at times, it's a pretty heavy comic by capeshit standards and Frank in it is treated like a raging spree killer who's too blinded by his own hurt and pain.
Suicide Squad is all edge and no point, at least when it comes to killing Justice League, because you'd be forgiven if you'd forget these guys are supposed to be villains and not "MCU Guardians of the Galaxy: the reskin"
I unironically think that killing Arkham Batman could've worked and been a powerful and emotional moment. Just not with these writers.
Well, I can smell the monkey stank, ESL.
They cheer for Wonder Woman and cry when she dies, despite none of them having met her before this game
Good. Why would you call it Batman Beyond and not have it be Terry?
Because it was a Batman Beyond set in the arkhamverse. Easier plotting to introduce Damian than Terry. Same reason the villains
We’re not planned to be all the ones from the cartoon who were mostly original
>Why would you call it Batman Beyond and not have it be Terry?
comics already did that after futures end
Yeah, it was stupid then and it's stupid now. Frick Damien, I hope Ultimate DC ditches him.
Most of the guys behind the arkham games have left rocksteady.
It's the blue haired replacements who made this game.
this looks like shit
Weird how Rocksteady got the absolute 10/10 perfect Beyond suit in City and couldn't replicate that ever since for some reason.
It did look weird and out of place with the literal black skin. Black mouth etc
Agree to disagree, out of all DCAU skins it felt to me like the one that actually fits in with the game aesthetic.
Do you have pics of MAD STAN.
>Reminder they cancelled the Batman Beyond game for this shit show
Good. I don't care about Terry being Daredevil 2099.
>sexy Black Mask
Cinemaphile would defend this.
>Stephen Amell as Dick
no defending this.
>wanting to repeat TDKR/BVS, but with Bizarro
And why is there a Hell Knight?
>Good. I don't care about Terry being Daredevil 2099.
But it wasn't Terry in the planned game
And that was the main reason people backlashed when info got leaked which led to a cancellation.
Good riddance I say.
Regardless of who's wearing the suit, I don't care if it was Terry or Bruce. I don't like Batman Beyond.
You have shit taste
This is a joke right? There's no way they actually had something like this in the works did they?
I'm glad it was cancelled. Frick Damian, I'm tired of his bland ass being constantly forced.
Not true at all. Arkham Knight was originally meant to be Arkham Beyond. You would play as Terry fighting the Arkham Knight who would be an older Damian that was raised by Ra’s and turned the League of Shadows into a paramilitary after Talia died at the end of City. The John Noble Scarecrow was an entirely new character, the son of Harley and Joker from the pregnancy test easter egg end of AC. WB refused the pitch, not wanting to introduce the idea of a pregnant Harley and forced us to make that shitty Harley Quinn’s Revenge DLC. Everything made for Arkham Beyond, including the new version of the Beyond Batsuit, were retooled into Arkham Knight.
Wrong.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/473985856/#473985908
I think it’s supposed to be Sionis’ daughter as the new Black Mask after Jason killed him. She’s even blonde like his girlfriend from Origins.
There was also going to be a Nemesis System in the game.
Old Bruce too
>green lighted
Green lit. I know we like to day that the public school system is a joke, but try not to prove it right.
>we like to day
You knew what it meant. I’m not here to write an essay I’m here to convey thoughts and you understood it so it worked
Why are so many people praising the story? You gotta have the emotional maturity of a 12 year old to enjoy this plot and writing
It owns the chuds, it’s powerful and inspiring and only Nazis hate it.
You’re not a Nazi, right? Tell me you love the story before I tweet about you and destroy your life
nah you can suck my balls i don't use social media so i don't care frick this game
Gotham Knights actually put effort into making every character feel different from their weapons to their skills and movesets. Everyone here is just gun gun gun gun gun gun and more fricking gun
>character called Captain Boomerang because he uses a boomerang
>just shoots guns all the time
Bravo Rocksteady
>we like to day
The hate for this game seems so manufactured. Did people care THIS much about Injustice killing off heroes unceremoniously? It's just YET ANOTHER alternate universe, the kinda shit capeshit just loves to do. Why the frick do you care. The frick is wrong with you?
>w-why do you care?
Injustice was not the sequel to a decade long franchise where they were all well received and respected. It was an alternate unites from day 1 where the premise was known
It even has the actual good heroes in the plot from the original universe who save the day
If you can’t understand why people dislike taking an existing story and attaching a shit plot that destroys the previous games plot. Then you’re on the same level of understanding as the games writers.
>dude, why is everyone so upset the new marvel movie had Iron a man resurrected then murdered and pissed on? It seems so manufactured.
So your a Batman fan?
The people who can't fathom why people don't like this shit are the same people who think the Star Wars sequels are good
Where does it say its the sequel to Arkham? Seems like people want it to be a sequel just so they can get mad.
There is an entire section in the game where you go through a museum recounting the events of the Arkham games
Shut up chud
homie, shut the frick up if you’re too dumb to google. Rocksteady said it was. The in game shit says it is. It was advertised as being a continuation of the Arkhamverse.
“Where does it say it’s the sequel to Arkham”? Literally everywhere. Half the advertising is about it being related to those games people enjoyed
Do you people not understand by now that you kill clones in the story? What the frick is wrong with you screeching monkeys?
>game is called Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League
>you kill clones
So the shill argument has completely changed now huh?
Maybe try actually playing the thing if you want to discuss it? Or better yet, go watch a "youtube movie" or what the frick ever you mouthbreathing zoomers have to do to be able to process media anymore.
>Maybe try actually playing the thing
I will never pay a single dollar for your cancer game shill
>game called Kill the Justice League
>you don’t actually kill the Justice League
True
well to be fair they do indeed kill the brand identity, so in a sense they do kill the justice league
This shit is so forced I can't help but wonder if THIS is the shill campaign? Literally cannot stop repeatedly bumping threads, doesn't care about facts, only about keeping posts going at all costs.
It’s because this game takes place in the Arkhamverse IE this Batman is the same one from the other games.
the difference is Batman is Batgod in Injustice so Batman fans don't whine
It's the defence for this game that really seems manufactured
>game gets revealed years ago
>fans are tepid, because it's some generic, GaaS, gear-based looter shooter made to tie into the movies and with yet another "what if superhero BUT EEEEEEVIL" plot
>the new character looks are overdesigned 2010s rubbish, each character just uses guns (even fricking Captain Boomerang), it's yet another Suicide Squad story where they need to save the world, etc etc
>game gets delayed, no one really cares
>then the leaks happen last year and people start actively disliking what comes out about the story and what Rocksteady were previously working on before WB forced them to do a Suicide Squad game
>further officially released information makes it look even worse e.g. it's set in the same continuity as the Arkham games despite many clear inconsistencies, more info on the GaaS model, and the fact they're going to do multiverse shit
>suddenly, as the game gets closer to release, a sizeable chunk of mainstream discussion/comments around the game the mainstream internet magically changes its tune on the game from "meh" or "hate the leaks and won't play it" to "THIS LOOKS GOOD, WHY'S EVERYONE HATING ON IT? ROCKSTEADY'S NEVER LET US DOWN. CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY IT, DON'T LISTEN TO THE REVIEWERS"
It's gotten to the point where you see "people" claiming IGN has a "vendetta" against the game just because they gave it a mediocre preview and reported on all the other bad news about this game's launch. It has to be genuine shilling. I can't see any other reason as to why the general opinion of the game should swing around so quickly.
You need to check out the Reddit Suicide Squad Game forum. Those people, Jesus Christ. Most cope I may have ever seen.
I’m convinced every “official” fandom subreddit is mostly interns and bots. It’s inane the amount of “am I the only one who LIKES this smelly piece of shit?” With 7 thousand upvotes and waves of support. While the entire front page is full of praise already
The other thing was that two years ago they were proclaiming that this game would be Kevin Conroy's last performance as Batman
For them to suddenly have people in the media go "Nuh-uh! He's gonna be in Caped Crusader and COIE!" recently, means they're not really taking the reception well behind-the-scenes, which explains the aggressive "DON'T LISTEN TO THE REVIEWERS" or "IT'S CALLED KILL THE JUSTICE LEAGUE" or some other manufactured defense bullshit on Twitter and elsewhere
Injustice didn't suck so badly at prettty much everything.
nothing good about injustice came from the actual injustice games
>Did people care THIS much about Injustice killing off heroes unceremoniously?
No, because Injustice knew what it wanted to be, AND there were good versions fighting against the evil versions of the characters even if they were canonically dead in that universe.
also while people had mixed feelings about Injustice, you could pick it up and play it and have some kind of a good time instead of it being essentially a scam
Plus normies went straight 1v1, you know the whole point of buying the damn game. No one gave a frick about the story.
It's a shit game anon. Like I don't know what else to tell you.
Cinemaphile changed from shitposting general and semi-moron discussion to going full-on moron. Since the election and gamersgate this is the land of miserable homosexuals who actually believe in Pepe, /misc/, Q, and other stupid shit. So in essence we have Facebook clowns in here who think they're smart cus 'we be postin in Cinemaphile lolz.' They have to rage and ragebait at anything on any given day. People didn't tear up at Injustice or any other media where the Justice League kills or gets killed. They're just fricking comic characters that can't die anyways. The biggest outrage should be that Rocksteady made God-Tier Batman games, took years off, then pushed out a meme online services game that isn't that fun.
If you can't ever understand why people had issues with the game's story then you're mentally moronic.
>the story!
No one gives a shit about the story
The game sucks
That's it.
I cared about the story.
Hey I remember this comic/artist/thing.
The lemon ice snowcone or whatever that makes her boobs grow?
Yeah, it's called Growcone, here's a link.
https://e-hentai.org/g/1092697/5a15100d57/
It actually got posted on Cinemaphile years back if memory serves.
a lot of games have bad stories. stop crying about a video game's story, you fricking Cinemaphiletard, its just a game
all of you whiny gays are the epitome of terminally online, crybaby, incel homosexuals. sorry to tell you. batman gets killed. wah wah. grow up, its not even in a comic or a movie, it was just a shitty live service game
>muh election tourist bogeyman is why this horrible atrocity of a game is hated everywhere
No
It's bad
There's no need to overthink it, the game is bad and everyone involved with it deserves poverty
That's it
There's definitely bad actors who just want to complain about women, blacks, black women, demoralization campaigns and..the transgenders for some reason?
But it can also be a bad game. I mean, it'd be a lot harder to manufacture outrage if they went after a game that was awesome.
Reactionaries. But some of the crew who made it are bad actors who see it as their duty and their job to complain about white people.
But take those people out and it's still a sack of crap.
I have every sid meyer game, including fricking Sim Golf and I managed to miss it's launch too.
Nobody would care about those tards going "white man bad" if the game was good, so the game being bad made it even more noticable to talk about.
They dragged up a beloved version of Batman that hadn't been seen for a while and had a pretty good ending (or at the very least, an ending) just to kill him off. This adds nothing to his story, it's just shock value used to bolster sales.
It's the exact same reason everyone sane hates comic Spider-Verse
As a Spidergay, thank you. After seeing moviegays trying to gaslight people that this shitty comic was good, it feels good when someone reminds people how shit it actually was.
The Spider-Verse movies have been a disaster for talking about Spider-Man online. So many secondaries who think they know what they're talking about because of "canon events"
The only good thing about this stupid "canon events" bullshit is rejuvenating all the Skip jokes.
>"canon events"
Gwen gotta frick Norman or the univsere will die!
What the frick? Did they kill my first cartoon crush Firestar?
He also killed
>MvC Spider-Man
>Hostess Cakes Spider-Man
>MC2 Spider-Man and MJ (aka Mayday's dad)
And probably more I can't think of right now
>MvC Spider-Man
I didn't know about that one. Frick's wrong with them?
Dan Slott hates you
Worth noting that Anka here did the terrible redesigns for ATSV too
Oh, I remember this now! Yeah, kid in the last panel. "What the frick" indeed.
>Perfect
Doesn't that mean that the other guy hasn't taken a hit? Do writers not play vidya?
They barely read comics, so no.
I think the idea he's trying to get across is that he wasn't even damaged by those attacks
I hope whoever came up with this panel shits their pants in public every day for the rest of their life.
Didn't Slott specifically did this kind of shit to piss the fans of because of Marvel's fricktarded "angry fan = engaged fan" policy? Just another reason why I do not engage with Spiderverse shit monetarily is Slott getting royalties off it.
I assume the moron means The Boys
He also "killed" Unlimited.
To add insult to injury, Slott believes Unlimited is the same continuity as 1994 series, so he tried to piss off more than just few Unlimited-gays with it.
Oh, you have no idea.
Let me spare you some of your valuable time and give you a brief recap: Spiderverse is 99% "tumblrina's (except that tumblrina is fat whale of a grown "man") lame vampire OCs show up, kill various Spider-Men for cheap shock value, rinse repeat"
If it's any consolation, the original Spiderverse killed Unlimited (who appeared in ATSV) and Capcom Spider-Man, so you can just chalk it all up as non canon trash. As you should.
I bought the spider-verse comic book that compiles all the issues of comics this event happened in years ago cause I was interested and naïve, not knowing much about comics at the time, expecting a cool and fun event and holy frick was I devastated to see all these cool spider-men just killed off like flies to prop up these lame energy dimensional vampires. The worst offense in my opinion was having Japanese Spider-man and his mech instantly lose, only to make a return near the end which felt like an obvious attempt to please the fans as I'd assume when that issue where Leopardon got wrecked initially came out, people were mad as frick and people were shit talking the writers.
I still have no idea how Slott didn't get cancelled for Silk shit when better writers and artists got cancelled for less.
It was really strange especially since he spent his time on Spider-Man pissing off people on both sides of the political spectrum
Maybe the usual suspects in comics media/twitter cancelled other creators or pushed useless nontroversies like the Manara Spider-Woman cover in order to distract people from what Slott did?
That arc was lame and served no purposes
The most offensive thing about this garbage comic was Slott proudly tweeting to Capcom about how he personally killed off MVC Spider-Man during MVCI's pre-release. I want to strangle the bastard until he chokes to death.
you will need bigger hands he is fat as frick
>just to kill him off
Way to ignore the rest of the post. Try reading it again after you wipe the tears out of your eyes, snowflake.
>wah wah you ignored the rest of the post where I accuse you of being something I don't like
Never ever shill
Keep up the good work on your journey to fluency in English!
>"frick calling him a zoomer didn't work what should I do next......I know call him an ESL! If that doesn't work, I will thank him for bumping the thread. One of these tricks have to work and get him to stop responding......right?"
the black mold is taking you over, anon. Open a window and breathe some fresh air. Maybe take the trash out. Have a smoke.
Still not buying the game.
and here comes the low IQ no u right on schedule.
>Still not buying the game
Yeah no shit me either, I doubt anyone here wants anyone to buy it.
and thank God
>f-frick, calling him a shill didn't work, i'm just gonna keep accusing him of wanting me to bump the thread! but no, i'm gonna say he don't want me to respond... hahhaaaa so i'm gonna do it again! the MAN doesn't want me to!
Goddamn bye moron lmfao
>just to kill him off
I mean... yeah? That's all they did with him
batgays dont like seeing their precious batman being shot in the face 🙁
nobody gives a shit about anything else other than that. there are issues with the game, but nobody cares cuz
>muh kevin conroy
>could they possibly think this would sell well
I'd bet they didn't, this unironically looks and feels like a small AA with low budget and lower ambitions they expected to at least break even with but was promoted to a AAA tentpole without telling the devs.
Budget was fricking massive. Nearly a decade of dev time. VERY high paid outside contractors on scriptwriting.
Now what DID happen was some big late changes that made everyone scramble like crazy and cut completed shit.
Marvel avengers had better writing.
People forget that gamers care as much about capeshit as we care about Charlie Chaplin.
Charlie Chaplin at least had funny silent films, this is just a mess
Another Marvel Avenger in the making
Avengers peaked at 28k. Will Suicide Squad even be able to hit those numbers?
Avengers let you play as their characters respective of their fighting style (Thor with his hammer, Captain America with his shield, Iron Man with his power armor, Hulk with his brutish strength and tankish unstopability). If Avengers was an SS game, they'd all be given firearms.
ESG money.
>ESG money.
They need it.
DC is completely fricked when they are expected to actually sell comics.
Yo, I don't have that tool. Could you run IDW, just for shits and giggles?
>Could you run IDW, just for shits and giggles?
IDW is done.
Holy shit. Someone else ran that for me when I was dumb and actually considering investing in BBBY, a year or three ago, and it was only 97 percent. I've NEVER seen it do that.
>Probability of Bankruptcy
>63%
those are rookie numbers
So, you won't get ESG by hiring talentless, diverse, gen-z woke hacks who frick up and subvert any creative decision in your franchise?
Wait my question is why did they actually have them kill the justice league, the squad's never actually supposed to have been used for that sure Waller said they could be but that was always a lie to get a private merc team not like she actually believed they had a remote chance of taking down real super heroes
Because this game is soulless shock value and I don't mean it like Postal or any other edgy game that uses shock value for the sake of fun or atmosphere like Manhunt. Rather "we have nothing to offer but ragebait" kind of shock value.
The game is so soulless that they continue to make The Wall thin. Waller is supposed to be built liek The Kingpin.
Nu52 and its consequences have been a disaster for DC.
it started with the Green Lantern movie
Okay, I'll concede somewhat but I think while GL may have introduced the idea, but nobody liked Green Lantern so Nu52 popularized the idea instead.
Harley Quinn as a Suicide Squad member is Nu52 addition through and through though, and it also sucks.
I think New 52 Waller being skinny might actually have been just synergy with the GL movie, released that same year
It was.
So
should also add Green Lantern movie
I would also add Flashpoint to this
Holy crap people watched the green lantern film!
I'm OK with a, medium huge waller, who's a size or two smaller than the kingpin.
But she should at LEAST be able to play linebacker on a football team, and have the guts to stand up to the entire team, and the kingpin.
I mean her signature willpower feat is standing up to the goddam batman in maximum intimidation mode. They should slap a green lantern ring on her and have her kick darkseid's ass.
Waller needs to be b***h slapped by Lobo.
Cause "Kill the Aryan Empire" somehow isn't marketable enough compared to "Kill the Justice League"
Suicide Squad is just a vehicle to push more Harley
You should see the kind of people they hired.
>every picture of the people who develop these pieces of shit looks like a /misc/ meme
I specifically requested to exit this ride, Mr Bones!
how does someone like this become tops in the game industry?
By getting the more competent people above her fired. I'm talking about rocksteady here, not her specifically.
>White women at sweet baby ink pink John Stewart to b***h about him being a black cop
>Has Lex Luthor call him a Uncle Tom and even used the term one of the good ones
This is unironically the most racist dc video game.
It's absolutely hilarious, but true.
SS's current peak is what, 13.5k? You think they can double their numbers?
Actually you DO...until you ship, and the product craters and your company folds as investors flee, which has been the exact patter on a number of these projects.
>give women control
>they make horrible nonsense decisions
Omg no way
Why is Palworld being put on the same pedestal as BG3? It's just the same early access survival crafting slop with a pokemon skin.
It made more money than slop the justice league
By nature of being a flash in the pan cashgrab like DayZ and such. certainly not something you would *want* companies to emulate.
isn't it just an updated pokemon ripoff with survival?
why hasn't tpm/gf made an updated pokemon yeh
I think it's a mixture of the absurdity of the concept (What if you can treat your Pokemon as actual slaves and cattle) and the fact that as generic and uninspired as it is, it still manages to be better than anything Gamefreak has made in like 2 decades.
At this point support of the games feels more like a "Gamefreak Vs. The World" with Pokemon fans being upset something is desecrating their sacred cow and people who have been very disatisified of Pokemon for a while wanting to see Pokemon get a taste of their own stagnation.
My main problem with it is that it's way more survival sim than pokeman ripoff, I haven't played a pokemon game since the handheld era but I sincerely doubt they're doing worse than that.
>well received games (regardless of your personal opinion)
vs
>massive flops that you could tell would be bad from miles away and surprised nobody when they underperformed
Pokemon with guns is BASED DUDE STUFF but king shark with guns is CUS WOMEN BAD!
>I don't play vidya but I shill DC
Because Pokemon fans have been wanting more from Pokemon for 25 years and the basic formula is extremely easy to copy.
Grafting modern meme mechanics nearly guaranteed to turn a profit like 3D open world exploration and crafting to a Pokemon base is braindead. Anyone could come up with that as a premise except the fricking morons at Gamefreak who are laser focused on absolutely fumbling the bag on a visionary and technical level every single time they're forced to expand on the Pokemon formula. The fact that Palword is basically an asset flip made in a basement only supports that obvious fact.
exactly, it's all about demand and scarcity. If nobody is making something people want, as soon as someone, anyone does provide it, it won't matter if it's any good or not people will still lap it up.
But I don't want those in a Pokémon game, I'd rather just play SMT or Digimon if Pokémon isn't giving me what I want
I found the reviews
How many people are playing on steam again?
Oh right
Steam reviews are kind of a weird metric sometimes.
Not only do you have the "IT SUCKS IT KILLED MY MOM AND BROKE MY PC [thumbs up]" reviews and the "yes, I play porn on my main" reviews, but there's a lot of weird quirks that come with only being able to review after purchasing.
Sure, it makes sense that you can only review games you've bought, but that limitation means OTHER people have to buy it to review it.
If a game has a nasty reputation, awful critic scores, or had 99% of the content cut, had made a bunch of unpopular changes to appeal to a wider audience, or whatever, people wont buy it, but the people that DO are the kinds of people who:
>give a 10/10 to a product just because it functions at all
>give a 10/10 just to avoid making the devs sad
>rate bad things a 10 for the "funny haha lol xDDD" appeal
>rate high because they have absolutely no standards
>rate high because [x] voice actor is in it
>rate high because it's in the [x] franchise, of which they're a fan
>give a high review because they're doing it for the memes, dumping an ASCII cat there or a gigachad or something
I'm not really sure what the fix is for that, other than some kind of system like being able to review something you don't own on Steam (but withholding the review behind a toggle somewhere, not affecting the game's actual average), or Valve hiring people/volunteers to police the reviews and delete all the meme ones.
You also get the opposite, where some dude has played a 12 dollar game game for something like 300 hours and gives it a thumbs down because "it's gotten pretty boring to replay" and "they just did a press release saying they wouldn't be making any more free updates reeeee". You can basically only trust that a game with mixed or negative reviews is an absolute stinker that's barely playable.
At least that guy usually has some reason for it, even if they generally word it badly, and games that people play for 100+ hours tend to have players and more reviews, which offsets "man, this game sucks, [thumbs down, 99999 hours]" reviews anyway.
>At least that guy usually has some reason for it
You wouldn't believe how many times I've seen the reason simply be "I did love it for most of the game but I can't in good conscience give it a thumbs up because it's gotten boring to me". A completely moronic reason when you've gotten that many hours of entertainment out of it.
Steam is a cult platform.
fake reviews
Why is this very positive on steam, I find it hard to believe that people actually enjoy this looter shooter slop
It's like the MMO or Gacha genre.
It's objectively skinner box garbage but there are large numbers of people that very easilly get addicted to these games large in part they have personalityies that are predisposed to addiction to begin with.
So yes, I can totally buy this game getting good reviews the same way a gambler would come back to the seediest and crustiest casino or a meth addict will thank their dealer despite it only being 30% meth and the rest is a mix of rat poison and random shit he found in his walls.
The actual player base is tiny for an AA release
You cannot affect the review score without a certain number of hours in game
You can refund any game you paid for within 14 days as long as you played it for less than 2 hours
People who played it for the whole length and thus didn’t get a refund are going to generally enjoy it
I think it's the looter shooter fans who give no fricks about the story and don't mind the repetitiveness.
Does it make more sense if you know the company founders left mid project?
watched a lets play last night, in a hour of playing there was like 20 minutes of actual gameplay, the rest was cutscenes full of quiping.
Cant believe this is from the same studio that did the arkham games.
Now you know how I felt in 2022.
Who voices Waller?
Every YouTube video comment I see is shredding this game to pieces
The chick from Mad TV you see everywhere now in games
Debra Wilson, who always plays a character using her 3D likeness.
stop trying so hard to fit in you moronic newbie
Can someone answer this question for me so people like superman, and the flash, and Batman are all brainwashed and have no way to stop them from killing people and they would kill people on site now with their extremely broken super powers. How the frick do they not instantly kill the the Suicide Squad? It’s not like they’re going up against someone like Black Adam or Mister Mxyzptlk.
A whole ton of different reasons to say "because plot"
> Lex invents a speedforce dampener that the Squad later replicates to fight flash.
> flash somehow doesn't insta kill the Suicide Squad like with lex after destroying the first dampener because he's a wienery idiot (same shit happens with a lot of the brainwashed characters.)
> lex 2 creates gold Kryptonite to fight against Superman.
> Harley somehow invents counter fear toxin to defeat Batman in his boss fight.
>How the frick do they not instantly kill the the Suicide Squad?
iirc flash was nerfed with an "anti-speedforce device", whatever the frick that means. As for superman, got me there. they handwave gold k shenanigans but he still should be able to snipe them from orbit.
>Black Adam
Bit petty but imo adam would also get demolished against those two. you'd probably need a team of supervillains for how brutal they acted in the game...flash and superman are shown as very quick and aside from the ss dont play with their prey.
They should have just done Superman
>it was never planned!
It should have been
Then again by "they" I am referring to the Arkham devs not whoever comprises modern Rocksteady
>How do these projects even get green lighted
What some of you people don't seem to understand is that animated movies and video games require time.
So this shit wasn't even approved AFTER Discovery did their joint venture with Warner Media, but possibly even before the AT&T merger/purchase.
Towards 2016/2017, DC Entertainment, while Didiot was still around and in charge and while Cereal Lord was COO, was trying to push Suicide Squad as a thing in comic books, which it had been for some decades, but never as a really significant seller or significant book people were really interested in. Instead of working on something like a Legion of Doom or a Society of Super Villains or any of the number of classical teams to oppose the Justice League, Didiot and Johns decided that a collection of D-Listers with Bombs in their brains were just the thing to oppose what should have been thought of as their heavy hitters heroes.
The fact that awful Ayer moved made a lot of money didn't help matters as it made it seem that normies cared and endorsed this position. The fact that Gunn did a sequel/reboot/rethread no one cared about didn't really stop them and even though Peacemaker was really no more successful (and in many ways far less successful) than say Watchmen on HBO or, particularly, Watchmen on Netflix (or even similar but non-DC things like The Boys or Invincible on Prime, etc.) doesn't change that they are going to keep pushing some version of Gunn's Squad down people's throat for the next five or so years.
I feel like a more interesting story would have been if the Suicide Squad started out all gung ho about killing the Justice League then as they saw what was going on they grudgingly realized that the Earth needs people on the level of the Justice League to protect it
Like they realize "I'm Harley Quin, what the frick am I supposed to do against an alien invasion" or whatever and realize that even though heroes are a pain in their ass they need the Supermans and Green Lanterns of the world to keep it safe.
That would have pissed off the people who bought the Suicide Squad game for the sake of getting to kill heroes, though.
Judging from the reactions, they don't really matter
Shit, then have them kill the JL only for some low tier schmuck to replace them during an invasion the SS couldn't possibly do anything about. Necessity is the mommy udder of innovation and all that, would also somewhat hammer that the JL and SS aren't too different in what the are
Oh no, all 20 people?
I literally haven't seen a worse proposed story yet, even with all the shitflinging. Even the attempts that slightly altered the existing story have been more interesting
i mean frick, they made the MCs both bleeding hearts and grimark edgy. and it isn't a romance, who the heck is the audience
Normal Humans in comicbook should have a way to get the same God like abilities most in born super humans do and learn to operate like a super human normie like Spider-Man. It feels like non powered people are either cattle and sheep to be herded for the heroes, or super badass trained warriors/solider with super human physicals.
it would be nice to see a story about a superhero who, instead of being pulled between two worlds like spiderman is with being Peter Parker, he just lets his "normal guy" persona die. Spiderman without Peter Parker, Superman without Clark Kent, a superhero who reaches that moment of apotheosis where his gwen stacy/lois lane/whoever dies and he just decides it's better to not form human connections and instead just become a machine solely designed to save humanity, at the cost of his own humanity. I feel like there's meat there.
I really have to wonder just why is all DC tie-in related media all dark brooding edgefests anyway?
>Dark brooding edgy Superman movie
>Even darkier more broody Batman vs Superman with more shadows, blue overlay skies, and more heroes dying
>Even DARKIER JLA movie where everyone talks in low breathy voices, everything is dark blue overlay, villain just kills shit for an hour of the movie, we get a post apocalyptic sequence with Eviler Superman and trenchcoat Batman!
>Suicide Squad movie where it's never not night, everyone in the whole city just dies, blue overlays on everyone, all dark shadows, cgi demons everywhere, Edge Joker being EDGY!
>Animated movie where Apokolips kills everything, whole movie stars mangled cyborg versions of heroes struggling to survive
>Batman games are just horror movies in game format
>Black Adam orange overlay Breaking Bad Mexico skies, Adam fricks and kills then fricks then kills, movie ends!
>Flash movie is more blue overlay everything, his life sucks, future sucks, everyone's life sucks, Batman's life sucked, everything is sad and miserable
Why is all DC media in the hands of people that just want to make and remake Bloodrayne over and over again?
>Batman games are just horror movies in game format
The only game that even comes close to being horror is Asylum and it's the best of the bunch specifically because of that.
I think it's because Marvel has the corner on 'light and fluffy blockbusters,' so WB believes that DC needs to have its unique selling point be that it's the opposite of Marvel
Yet the most successful DCEU movie was the one that copied Marvel the most
>Dark brooding edgy Superman movie
When the MCU's leading men are a weapons manufacturer turned hero, a godson who has to learn humility, and a propaganda war hero trying to stay relevant with his values while out of his time, it just reflects how much of a cross it is to bear being Superman.
>Even darkier more broody Batman vs Superman with more shadows, blue overlay skies, and more heroes dying
BVS was just gratuitously indulging in grimshit because everybody knows Superman would never brood among gargoyles like Batman or Daredevil would.
>Suicide Squad movie where it's never not night, everyone in the whole city just dies, blue overlays on everyone, all dark shadows, cgi demons everywhere, Edge Joker being EDGY!
Joker with no clear direction will always be a dumb edgelord.
>Batman games are just horror movies in game format
That tracks even in the DCAU and the Burtonverse films.
>Black Adam orange overlay Breaking Bad Mexico skies, Adam fricks and kills then fricks then kills, movie ends!
Black Adam was what Man of Steel should've been instead of The Rock trying to be a serious and goofy hero at the same time.
>Flash movie is more blue overlay everything, his life sucks, future sucks, everyone's life sucks, Batman's life sucked, everything is sad and miserable
Flash was the end product of a thousand bad decisions in trying to measure up to the MCU.
All these movies were ass btw
>assmad fanboy dribblings
Nobody cares, they were shit movies. After the first two did not work, they should not have kept going and made several more dark edgy grimdark edgefests.
>assmad fanboy dribblings
Huh? Whut are you on about?
gotta do something with the IP or lose it
>How do these projects even get green lighted when nobody asked for them?
a bunch of old out of touch boomers chasing buzzwords and money
I JUST WANT A FRICKING LANTERN CORPS RPG WHY THE FRICK WONT ANYONE MAKE IT FOR FRICK SAKE
Flying heroes are a pain to deal with in games. That's why. Same reason for no Superman game.
DCUO DID IT RIGHT 13 YEARS AGO
DCUO also did a Batman boss fight better.
Mfw they actually did
I don't think you understand how incompetent current WB is at game development. They had the LOTR AND rocksteady, and blew both teams to hell. You aren't getting shit from them.
NO ONE GETS OFF MR BONES WILD RIDE.
She works for scale, is on time, has loads of assets scanned of her, INCLUDING mouth movment animation libraries, and isn't a primadona, jackass, or b***h to work with.
She's a pro.
It's about the message, not the money. Pale and male is stale.
the only thing thats stale is gays and feminazi leftist bullshit
i keep asking this of so many projects in recent years. I can understand greenlighting endless sequels like Toy Story 5. There's a business logic. But how does this get greenlit when The Avengers game is a known flop and this is a less popular property. There has to be some other consideration here that is not making money. Unless they are wholly delusional about the value
Big AAA games like this take a long time to develop. They take even longer when they go through development hell and when the devs are told by the higher ups to change the focus of the game, like what happened with this one specifically. It's pretty likely that Kill the Justice League started development way before Square's Avengers had even come out. By the time that game came out and flopped horribly, Rocksteady/WB had probably already invested so much time, money, and effort on developing this that they couldn't afford to drop the GaaS looter shooter aspect it shared with Avengers. Starting over yet again would have been too much, and I don't think WB could just write it off and trash it like with the Batgirl movie.
Except even late in development. Having made most assets. They could change the entire fricking plot fairly simply.
Imagine if they altered it simply so
>they don’t kill the justice league, end of their scenes is them incapacitating them
>they get rewarded for saving justice league who then threaten Waller into giving them more freedom post game and we can actually like these “anti heroes”
>still kill brainiac and most scenes are same since the heroes are “brainwashed” until game ending
Since they took like 6 years to develop this. Literally just changes in the last 2 years when they already knew people disliked this story would be logical
that sounds like a cartoon
this is MATURE GAME for MATURE GAMERS such as myself
The Suicide Squad game got announced (and had a trailer) in August 2020, which means they likely were already at work on it LONG before that. The Avengers game was released in September 2020. Like
said they probably had invested way too much into it at that point. And keep in mind, the game was originally supposed to release in 2022.
The other thing to keep in mind is this seems to coincide with the plans WB had pre-COVID and pre-Zaslav.
>Wonder Woman being propped up (they planned to have the new trinity be her, Batgirl, and Supergirl)
>Harley Quinn also getting propped up
>Gunn taking over Suicide Squad
Making Deadshot black seemed to be a way to sort-of synergize with Will Smith's Deadshot (despite how contradictory it was with the Arkham games), and I assume WB at the time was hoping he'd come back to play the character. This ended up being in vain because
>Will Smith didn't come back for Gunn's Suicide Squad
>The Oscars slap likely cost Smith a lot of roles and star power
>Gunn and Safran were planning to reboot the DCU and likely won't have him in it
>RAAAAARGHJH WRITING IN A NORMAL WAY IS REDDIT
>ONLY GIANT PARAGRAPHS
calm your autism
not Cinemaphile
frick off
Wrong board
inb4
>hurr akshu-
the adaption exception is explicitly for MOVIES not games
a hazbin hotel thread FRICKING DIED BECAUSE OF THIS ONE
>wannabe jannyism
>demanding that others do X action
Schizoing out like this does nothing to advance your cause, you'd think reactions to previous nutjobs would've taught (You) this lesson.
seeing gameplay for this you can tell an okay game and potential is there but like gotham knights it all didn't quite come together right and its all very half baked and mediocre. a shame because it probably could have been okay if they had a better team used to this kind of game. a third person shooter with zany traversal mechanics has the potential to he great but neither the shooting nor the movement looks good. i guess splatoon is kind of the only not boring third person shooter with decent movement, off the top of my head. warframe was never good.
Redditspacing is single line break, because reddit automatically turns any linebreak into a double.
Like so. One enter. One linebreak.
>because reddit automatically turns any linebreak into a double.
Isn't it the other way around? They have to hit enter twice to make a regular linebreak and so when they write on other sites they end up with a bigger break than intended.
@142052054 No (you) for you, you're definitely doing this on purpose.
Speaking as someone who uses basically all social media exclusively for porn, including R*ddit and Cinemaphile, I never understood why people associated doubletapping enter with R*ddit.
On R*ddit, it doublespaces when you hit enter at all for any reason, automatically. Users aren't doing that on purpose. The meme that gets posted here that people have to double-tap enter to prevent the doublespacing isn't real, it'd just doublespace the doublespace. To prevent a doublespace on R*ddit, you have to shift+enter like any other site that does this stupid-ass gimmick, I think it's a Markdown issue.
I hate it, and those dumb Black folk on R*ddit kept the gimmick even after they replaced Markdown with their own homebrew thing, which makes the site a real pain in the ass to use as someone who hates excessive doublespacing. I hate that it makes most posts on the site twice as long vertically.
Rocksteady pitched a Superman game. Tried for a WW game. Got neither.
>For all the talk of focus groups and shit. How could they possibly think this would sell well?
The focus groups are on WB's side, and were hoping for something that tied in with BATMAN because moneymaker and history of company, and with the new movies, and would work well with the edgy feel of the previous games.
They weren't going to have clearance or budget for a full justice league game, but having the big names in a more limited role seemed like a winning idea.
The plan wasn't a stupid one, but the execution was terrible, and the core concept really wasn't there.
ITT DC fans mad the bad guys won for once
Seething Shill spotted
The game is dead on PS5 as well LMAO
KWAB
What were they even thinking while making this game? Were they even thinking or was it pure hope that GAAS with DC characters is going to be a instant hit?
The funny thing is that GAAS with DC characters mihht have actually worked if it was characters people gave a shit about. The only one of the four that's popular is Harley Quinn, and bobody wants to hear Tara Strong's shrill fricking Harley quipping in their ears nonstop for 15 hours.
If this was the Justice League, it might have actually stood a chance. The sheer temerity of this company to release a game that may as well be titled
>"Harley and Pals: Kill those characters you've been begging to play as for years.
This game would've had a better chance if it was just the Suicide Squad going on black ops missions across different areas in the DC universe. You could've had levels in Gotham, Metropolis, Atlantis, etc and all of them would make sense for some mission that Waller needed them to do on the Government's behalf. The episodic feel would've lended much better to a GAAS path than this Brainiac shit.
>Disrespect DC heroes
>Pick John Stewart because the writers want to shit on him for being a black cop
>3 TV shows about Batman being dead or a killer
>Killed off rocksteady Superman game and Damian Wayne Arkhamverse sequel for a game live service
>Second video game about killing Batman
Does WB hate DC fans or just like losing money?
they greenlighted them at bulk and now its time to reap what they sow.
Given their track record, I'll go with both.
Completely on brand for the kind of greviance politics that they go for. It's te same shit as Tai Neshi Coates, but even crazier, and less competent.
The biggest trash factory in the entire video games industry.
>Does WB hate DC fans or just like losing money?
WB and DC Comics are run by people that hate DC characters. Most of them would rather be writing/working for Marvel. Many DC employees are Woke SJWs users that legit hate Batman for “being a White Privileged Heterosexual Male that beats up innocent criminals and doesn’t donate to charity”, which is why Bruce in the comics is less rich, missing a hand, tried to have sex with Ghost Maker, was cucked by Catwoman, tried to commit suicide as a kid, and is mentally ill (not to mention DC Comics tried to replace Bruce Wayne with Tim Fox). And the same mentality applies to the rest of the DCU.
I told people. Batgays tried to cope with being insecure ass lying buttholes, defending the shit state of the comics and get some b***h ass poor ass approval on this shit site, but that will never change the truth. Bunch of doxxed projecting monkeys, that’s why I left that shit community. I’ve never seen such moronation and cope. Most of them seem on the edge of suicide.
>The writers have a MASSIVE MASSIVE boner for BLM and black rights shit
Lex Luthor killed green lantern John Stewart one of a good ones and retcon black deadshot all but calls him a Uncle Tom.
it's just capitalists taking investor money and pocketing it. They never intended the game to sell, they just pay marketing reps and focus testing experts so they can tell their investors it's "definitely going to sell a billion copies, see?" and then the investors give them a bunch of money and they give themselves a golden parachute. It might as well have never even come out.
They may claim that, but their end-result (the game) doesn't show that
>Flash saved the SS lives
>they make fun of him and piss on him when he’s dead
>Wonder Woman doesn’t care or do anything for the SS
>she dies and they all get sad and Harley cries
Seriously. Who the frick wrote this?
I'm hoping to see more articles show up in the future with anonymous sources finger pointing who is at fault for this
No I will tell you exactly what will happen. The devs will all get fired, then go to Twitter and post how they worked hard on an awesome game and it’s not fair. Then other Twitter devs will post “I’m so sorry message me your resume we would love to hire you!”
Happens all the time.
the devs aren't very good, but if I hired a part-time blockbuster employee to run a space shuttle program that's kind of on me.
The writers were VERY well paid. They lost the old dev team midway through the project.
It's kind of hilarious how they intentionally hired bad writers so they could use them as a strawman. You're supposed to look at whoever, whatever narrative person or writer or whoever, you're just supposed to salivate over wanting to tear them apart when they were intentionally hired to tank the project, "Springtime for Hitler" style.
Please tell me this doesn’t really happen
You still haven't seen the scene with Boomerang peeing on Flash and the others admiring the size of his dick? Not shitting you right now, that's exactly what happens.
the others stop boomer from doing it and make a joke about him being well endowed. So he was going to do but didn't.
https://sweetbabyinc.com
These frickers. A company that exists to fill media with woketrash.
I just wanted a Justice League game bros…
>How do these projects even get green lighted when nobody asked for them?
Sounds like a fun idea for a video game
I would have purchased such a game if the gameplay was good
>inb4 its LE BAD
well im not buying it but in theory it was a perfectly good idea for a video game.
no is is bad homosexual
I'm not getting the game
But I'm very curious on what comics to read up for the Amanda Waller experience.
Love this chunky b***h.
Obviously every single suicide squad run, and the related shit in checkmate. I assume you've seen the cartoons, so the shit those cartoons are based on have her in it, mostly as a supporting character, but still.
Ostranders Suicide Squad. That's it, that's the only Suicide Squad book you should ever read, anything with Ostranders name on it
Everyone here is SHIT
SHIT
SHIT SHIT
Don't worry, Harley and co will save the SS brand this year with her upcoming anime isekai
>That time I got hit by the batmobile and reincarnated as a shota.
Anime Harley sexo
Michael Jackson was in the suicide squad?
You'd think it would be Kurt Cobain
Demon slayer crossover so people actually watch it
Anime Harley looks way too influenced by the crazy girl from MHA.
>how do these projects get greenlit
Simple: they're conceived by the person with the power to greenlight shit
No one can tell them no
I wouldn't mind the game as much if they had a little more respect for the heroes, explained why out of all people these 4 idiots were chosen when we know there are still hero alive, and had each one play in a unique way and not just how they move around. Granblue fantasy relink is basically the same game as this but each character plays very different and actually makes the game enjoyable
>1.1k viewers on twitch
Lmao
It's never been more over
Think it's just cause the game still doesn't have that many weeks,but i'm sure we'll get more poc characters soon enough
How is the game a flop? It just came out, you havent seen the sales yet.
You can see how many people are playing it. Therefore how many people pre ordered or bought day 1. That’s pretty indicative of how it will perform
How are the player-base not indicative of the sales? DC games belong in the bargain bin. They always have.
When the game was greenlighted, Suicide Squad was a popular IP
Was it ever? From the beginning (movies at least) seem like they just keep pushing the brand after constant bad-to-lukewarm reception. Wonder how much money they've wasted trying to force people to love the IP.
So proof that the writers of this game are clueless. Harley mentions Killer Moth is in Gotham. BUT Jason killed him as Red Hood in Arkham Knight LMAO
Different universe moth chuddy
Everyone in this thread is shit btw
You're Superboy prime, btw.
Who the FRICK read comics? Dead as medium written by untalented broke homosexuals.
>no one asked for it
>suicide squad gets a sequal
>Harley show is popular
>"kills the ____ universe" comics exist for decades
>edgy superheros bad shows popular
>>>>>>no one asked for this
Cinemaphile makes people fricking moronic.
>no one asked for it
Everyone was asking for a Superman or Justice League game. Nobody wanted a Suicide Squad game.
>suicide squad gets a sequal
Sunken cost of trying to make Harley one of their marquee characters. Nobody cared when Gunn brought his guys (brother Sean, Michael Rooker) on, nobody cared that Deadshot was replaced by Bloodsport who's just Deadshot but British.
>Harley show is popular
subjective
>"kills the ____ universe" comics exist for decades
Comics like those have only existed for 30 years, and Marvel was the only one doing them.
>edgy superheros bad shows popular
What are you even talking about?
FYI the endgame is that you defeat Brainiac, but find out theres 13 Brainiacs from alternate dimensions that you must also defeat, but they will show up in later "seasons" because its an online game
So you are literally cucked out of even having an ending.
don't worry, this game will be successful and 13 seasons of content will be developed to finish the story
just like the avengers games as a service
And Halo Infinite. Who just dropped the whole thing. Because it was a failure.
So you're saying we'll never find out who the Infinite are? The race that are immune to the Halo pulse for reasons?
So basically they didn't finsh the game for "Live Service" Reasons and at the end of defeating All 13 and probably shit like Batman who Laughs, Zod and other shit. Then the League will come back for some reason.
Its multiverse shit, so they will use to to explain away anything they want.
>Lex Luthor gets killed by Flash, but then "Earth 2" Lex Luthor helps you for the rest of the game
>implying this piece of shit will last that long
It's Games as a Service
If they don't assume they'll be chugging along 5 years from now what was the point?
Not that this fricking game has any hope of that longevity. What is it with these fricknuts who are trying to turn properties that specifically use existing characters into GAAS when one of the biggest draws for that sort of game is making and evolving Your Dude™? MMOs understood this multiple decades ago but you can't make Your Dude™ when Your Dude™ needs to be an established character
I wish every executive who pushes for this crap a very merry triple-bypass
the "point" was to siphon investor money and bail, it's The Producers. That's what this industry was floating on for the last decade.
>Brainiac
>Not green
Whut
Shill woke up, I see.
>if you think tards are raging over nothing, youre a shill
just give it up you 4bot sounding idiot
I'm noticing a whole lot of posts here and in Cinemaphile that just make a very ambiguously unattributed statement that seems like it might be a chatbot, just sort of farting in the elevator and leaving it, so I feel like people should just be on the lookout for any floating posts that aren't funny or interesting or responding to anything specific and just seem to be looking to stir the shit up. Might be a political bot looking to make people argue about culture war.
its not a 'maybe'
Oh, good, I was worried I was being really paranoid and like tech-fear-y, but yeah posts like
where there's just no attribution and it's just shitstirring
>See this beloved character you played as in our previous installments, now you kill them unceremoniously!
Is there a word for this because I hate it so much
it's called drucking, after neil druckmann
>WAHH WAHH STOP CARING LE NOTHING MATTERS WAHH WAHH
Just die already, moronic shill. Your whining is certainly not something anybody cares about.
are you okay, buddy? try to cry it out completely next time
>more shill gaslighting
>"n-no, it's you who's crying"
And this garbage wants me to give it a (You), even samegays to pretend anyone supports it, Truly sad and embarrassing. Too bad the game is still gonna get rightfully ripped apart and there's nothing you can do about it no matter how hard you cry.
>I cant quote you but I will let you occupy my mind and mental frame to be a total schizo
dude, youre such a b***h. everyone can see you raging out while saying its everyone else. if you could go one post without hyperbole or Cinemaphileisms like a bot Id be impressed.
>moron comes into a thread discussing a specific thing
>NOOOO STOP DISCUSSING IT BOT BOT BOT
The absolute gall of you, shill
I will be impressed if you get a clue and frick off, but that's not likely to happen due to you being a harebrained paid homosexual so I'll just continue to mock you. Hopefully I could drive you to suicide eventually.
See, the lack of specificity in any of this is making it really transparent that it's a bot. If I can make a suggestion, it would help if it was able to take a keyword or two from context to really sell it. All the ambiguous "discussing a specific thing" and the lack of attribution make it really too transparent to be effective
you literally seethe for lines and lines, but say nothing in order to make a point or refute one argument. I know you wanted to be cute and drop in with your little meme words but its not always going to work. kek what a b***h.
>he's mad nobody is actually engaging with him and still onto his "muh bots" gaslighting tactic
Lmao. For somebody who claims he "doesn't care", you sure whine a lot when people don't act the way you want them to.
in case the person running this bot sees this, you really need to have it be able to respond to specific posts, even if there's no connection, because responding to the open air as though you were responding to a single person just makes the bot look schizophrenic. Try having it either respond to an ambiguous, thread-wide concept, like "game bad", or have it post a general response after a reply link, because talking to a blank wall makes it look crazy and really obviously a bot.
who said I didnt care? thats a fallacy. I see you always avoid direct quotes because you making things up. my point is you freak out and post like a bot, your only responses are becoming a /b/ poster with no actual poise or purpose besides begging for attention. you can answer this with your passive aggressive anger and not quote me again, its fine. I prefer it that way. youre just sad and I think its funny
you're arguing with a chatbot my dude, the lack of reply links should tip you off.
Can someone please point out the Games as a Service game that was so wildly successful it turned into a golden goose the entire industry has been chasing after for years?
Seriously, which one was it?
Chatbot or autist who refuses to give (You)s. Either one isn't worth acknowledging
They just want that Fortnite money
There was no GaaS success story, it's just a natural evolution that has the POTENTIAL to generate massive amounts of money, and that's what sells the suits on it. It doesn't matter if it's doomed to fail, if they can extract a fat payday out of it before it collapses. It's like the 2008 economic crisis, you get in and you suck up all the money as the house burns to the ground, then afterward you stand around and go "oh gosh it all burned to the ground, who could have seen that coming"
Technically World of Warcraft, hence why so many tried to jump on that bandwagon only to fail
After that, Fornite, Rainbow Six:SIege, Destiny and kinda Call of Duty.
>Destiny
Ok, how well did Destiny EVER actually do?
Did pretty good actually, then D2 exploded. But it came at a cost of 90% of the original devs at Bungie leaving by the time both games were out. The game, which used to be a passion project of the founder of Bungie who begged Microsoft to give the idea a chance and put Halo on ice for a while refused and they signed the deal with Activision with stupidly outrageous demands that should have stopped themselves from signing it yet it all did was make it a the title a games as a service, which destroyed the man's faith in the industry and he later quit when they dumped most of his story and lore into the garbage.
>he later quit when they dumped most of his story and lore into the garbage.
Was this before Destiny 1 dropped?
Because Destiny 1 was the most barebones shit I have ever played so they must have dumped all of his story and lore in favor of literally nothing
>Was this before Destiny 1 dropped?
Yes, and that's precisely why it felt empty. Half of the "story" needed to be read online which by the time the second game came out they took down the official website which prevented new players from reading it anyway and Nu-Bungie's response was "Oh well, go frick yourselves lol"
Many speculate that the first Destiny was not supposed to be a GaaS game and was a complete game like Halo and then Activision demanded they change everything and partition it into pieces. There are areas in Destiny 2 that were in promotional materials for D1.
>the founder of Bungie who begged Microsoft to give the idea a chance and put Halo on ice for a while
That's really funny to me since I thought the Halo sequel trilogy was trying hard to also be Destiny.
>Destiny 1 and 2
>Genshin Impact
>League Of Legends
>Grand Theft Auto Online
>Apex Legends
>Fortnite
Fortnite is the big one, as people have mentioned. Not just in that it got so big that it basically single-handedly consumed the mobile market, but also in the idea that you can metaverse the shit out of it and people will pay you obscene amounts of money to advertise their shit for them.
The only good thing this game has done good is character parity. No one platform gets additional characters over the others like Spider-Man being a PlayStation exclusive.
>Rocksteady
>The actual devs not the nu-shitters that fill the brim of it now wanted to make other super hero games of the rest of the DC line up
>Constantly were denied by Warner Bros each and every time
>Forced to make this
>Majority of the staff just leaves as they didn't want to be hog tied to a fricking live service game
>Some stayed on to make the best of it
>WB hires Sweet baby around 2021, the time the last of the original devs including a co-founder they had enough and left the studio
Frick Warner Bros. bunch of a fricking pricks. This flop is on their hands.
>moronic shill thinks "s-stop le caring" is an argument, let alone something worth "refuting"
LMFAO. No wonder you're a fricking clown.
>p-please give me a (You) or I don't get paid
Nah. Starve. Heard starvation is a very painful to die, hope that's true.
>Either one isn't worth acknowledging
Good, then maybe you'd shut the frick up and stop embarrassing yourself. But we know it's not why you're here, totally organic Cinemaphile poster.
>>a lot of games have bad stories. stop crying about a video game's story, you fricking Cinemaphiletard, its just a game
>>all of you whiny gays are the epitome of terminally online, crybaby, incel homosexuals. sorry to tell you. batman gets killed. wah wah. grow up, its not even in a comic or a movie, it was just a shitty live service game
>>FIVE MINUTES LATER
>>w-who s-s-said I didn't c-care
This is a good point to bring up, why the hell are shills still doing that exact same pattern since at least the 2010s? It gives themselves away as shills now and accomplishes nothing for the thing they're defending. The "We Don't Caaaaare About Your Favorite Thing" crowd are now as much complicit in how shit things have gotten over the years.
They're very transparent about it too, like they think nobody could tell.
And judging by the responses ITT and other threads, they're very clearly asspained over the bad reaction this game is getting. I assume they want it to get swept under the rug.
>tfw we live in a timeline where liberal activists waste their time defending terrible video games from mega-corps because they put up token gay flags
oh, Bernie-bros... what happened to us all...
>liberal activists waste their time defending terrible video games from mega-corps because they put up token gay flags
>conservative activists waste their time defending a mega-corp that sells goyslop because they put a happy anime family in one of their commercials
Truly dark times for american politics
I don't remember anyone "defending" Mickey D's, and instead just liked a cute advertisement.
Yea hot Anime McD Mom
Then either your memory is faulty, you weren't paying close enough attention, or you're being dishonest but no one would do that on the internet
why are people being so insane about this game
>soulless cash grab game shits on beloved version of a character
>moral grandstands the whole time
Yeah why do people hate it?
maybe it's bc i don't look for stuff to make me mad but I haven't seen any moral grandstanding
Luthor outright b***hes about toxic masculinity.
who gives a shit pussy grow some balls and just don’t read it or play the game.
Why is this gameplay so aerial when none of these characters are known for that?
maybe the smallest thing to complain about but I'm so pissed they're from Arkham and not Belle Reeve. I get it's the franchise name but I can still be annoyed
because it was supposed to be a Superman game
If Boomerang isn't aerial, then explain this.
To this day I still think the worst thing to ever be affiliated with Suicide Squad was this Mad TV sketch
https://streamable.com/8b08qh
It's so bad it was wiped from the internet but I remembered.
>not even a forced or piped-in MadTV laugh
How????
>game is called bad by evrry journo
>"accidently" have everyone complete it and give away ending
>ttly didnt pay reviewes
>suddenly "game is great".
Who said the game is great other than shills? Or more importantly, why is this game rated honstly compared to most?
I don't think leftists are defending this game. So far, all I've seen are shills who say the game's great but don't go into detail as to why.
Why have leftists given up on "there is no such thing as woke you bigot" and moved onto "why do you care so much about this bigot" as their go to deflection to defend this trash?
>How do these projects even get green lighted when nobody asked for them?
A Suicide Squad action game could be great. I don't know what happened
Man, I just had a wild thought.
Imagine Pandemic doing a Suicide Squad game.
Imagine a capeshit version of this.
So the leaks so far are
>JL all gets revived aside from Wondy and (maybe?) Batman
>You get to play as them for a small section
>The main storyline (continuation of the game) ends after Season 5
>DLC characters are Joker, Nora Freeze(don't know if elseworld), Zoe Lawton(as a reinterpretation of the original SS member "Lawless"), Deathstroke and Katana
>4v4v4v4 PvE mode
>4v4v4v4 PvE mode
Fricking how? The UI is a horrid mess of noise.
>DLC characters are Joker, Nora Freeze(don't know if elseworld), Zoe Lawton(as a reinterpretation of the original SS member "Lawless"), Deathstroke and Katana
why do they hate to use actual suicide squad members
Duchess is such an easy choice for this game as well. She literally is known for big ass guns and you can use her to do 4th world shit
>implying this shit will last that long
Avengers lasted 3 years, they'll knock out the initial storyline then drop it. Most of it's probably already wrapped anyway, that's how live service games work, they're usually working 3 seasons out
>Fire/drive away experienced creative leads, who promptly take most of the old talent with them
>Give your project to script doctors to avoid controversy and appeal to modern audiences
>The script doctors are themselves controversial and offensive to the audience
And instead of blaming these charlatans and the way they treated their old talent, WB will probably see this as a sign of the waning popularity of the IP. Which is probably true now, because they keep making junk.
>green lighted
green lit, you illiterate
Even on Cinemaphile manga is more popular than comics. When was the last time you saw a comic related thread hit 1,000+ posts?
Now what does this have to do with the SS game? Simple, no one cares about capeshit anymore. Not even "comic fans"
>newhomosexual doesn't know what a general is
Color me shocked.
This anon is right, and every reply (outside of this one
) proves him right.
So should we use triple line breaks?
As so?
WBD really cheapens out on quality. I knew DC was over when they acquired them.
inb4 another thinly veiled page10 shillbump
Frick thinly veiled, ima shill
I haven't even played this game... and neither has anyone who bought it.
I haven't pirated games in a long while... Are there cracks for this kind of stuff that make the games completely offline? Or are this new type of DRM just going to doom the games to be unplayable when they shut the servers off after a decade?
>doom the games to be unplayable when they shut the servers off after a decade?
This is their goal. So you have to keep "buying"(licensing for temporary use) the next game. Ownership is a thing of the past.
>when they shut the servers off after a decade
>a decade
lol and lolmao
It's a slop game. The servers will stay up 2 years at most, and that's a generous estimate.
yeah
is completely right, if you think that game is still going to be playable when, like, DS2 comes out the christmas after next, you're kidding yourself. It'll PROBABLY still be up this christmas, they'll probably shit out a couple of patches and the drop in player numbers mean it will be technically playable, but in about a year when the already-in-progress DLC packs have come out and nothing new is coming down the pipeline, they'll turn the servers off for good and absolutely nobody is going to go to the effort of faking their own server except maybe for a long-form-video-content youtuber making a video on failed games and looking to capture some footage.
Didn't they make a big deal about how one of the changes they made was you could play offline?
Yes, but they're not bothering until much, much later
Yea like with the Shadow of War game. They've got a projected amount of time to make maximum money. After that's elapsed server cost vs money from the marketplace THEN they'll unplug the game from always online, least in some aspects.
It's planned so they say
>New game
>Game as a service
>Servers offline
Big oof
>if you pay more you get to player earlier
>server offline
cape shit as whole is pozzed and woke
>How could they possibly think this would sell well?
The frick makes you think they care if it sells well? It's about pushing The Message™ while taking a shit on something you like. There were no other goals.
they don't care about the message and taking a shit on something you like, it's just a way to extract money from investors. It's never been a culture war issue, that's just an excuse for profiteering.
Wrong. There is a culture war but it comes from elsewhere in the company. A CEO will tell middle managers "make money I don't give a frick how you do it" and middle managers thus are the ones who hire sweet baby and push the culture war.
WB doesn't need to make good content because gays will buy it and shill it regardless.
This game is more popular than Avengers and Destiny. It’s #1 selling game on XBox and PS5 right now and #2 on Steam.
Cry more.
Maybe if i cared about sales numbers or those other games this would mean something to me
Anon it's February and it's the only mainstream appeal game right now. Do you think the guys who play FIFA and CoD are going to be buying Persona or Like A Dragon? Of course it's the current top seller
What exactly are you defending? It's transparently trash, it's like a star musician coming out on stage pilled out and slurring and then throwing up on stage, you can't harass people for pointing out that they're smashed. You can't pretend they didn't puke on a bunch of fans in the front row.
That's not defending you fricking moron. What do you think defending means?
It’s over.
Stop buying WB shit, let the company die already, this shit isn't natural.
it's already happening. This is the upside to us having absolutely no ability to impact the direction of business: sure, we can't actually meaningfully kill a major corporation when mandatory taxation and corporate bailouts exist, but we also don't have to worry when we see a business failing on its' own. The investors will not see a return on their investment, and the studio will be shut down. It's what happens to every moneymaker in the industry that isn't isolated like Valve is, a grifter shows up and Monorails them into getting into bed with a werewolf, and then the werewolf eats them. The werewolf in this scenario is international capital investors who will give you hundreds of millions of dollars very easily if you show them enough charts and graphs, but then when you can't triple their investment they just pay Embracer Group to come eat you like Galactus.
Is it Joeover for Rocksteady?
oh they got bit years ago, it was nice to give them the last few years of pretending everything was fine, we pushed their wheelchair out along the garden and they got to pretend everything was fine, but we knew as soon as they got bit that this was only going to end one way. We already brought the sawnoff with us out to the back garden.
I don’t know why there are people in this thread trying to say it’s overreaction when Sweet Baby Inc is involved. There’s literal evidence this time that it’s ESG shit
Sweet Baby is a marketing thing, not ESG. It's like if you're going to include a female character who came out of an abusive relationship with a popular character now being boss around by a strong black female, shallow loot and shoot writers don't really care or have the experience to make it with the appeal they want it to have. It's dumb, but the game is dumb and it was slapped together without much consideration to anything, they were just checking boxes from start to finish to shit it out. They can focus on the game, Sweet Baby checks the chat GPT scripts for slurs and demeaning language.
>Sweet Baby is a marketing thing
No they're fricking not. Why spout lies that are easily disproved by looking at their fricking website?
>we bring thoughtfulness to your projects
It's marketing. What makes you say it's not?
>What makes you say it's not?
The part where Sweet Baby literally says that they exist to help companies rewrite characters and stories to be more in line with ESG and DEI guidelines?
Link please. I'm searching sweet baby ESG and I just see people accusing them of ESG, I'm not seeing them literally mention it.
inb4 you try to dismiss this by splitting hairs and say they're not specifically mentioning esg, only things that just so happens to be vital to esg.
I'm not splitting hairs, I already mentioned what you're posting and you said
>The part where Sweet Baby literally says that they exist to help companies rewrite characters and stories to be more in line with ESG and DEI guidelines?
You're literally incorrect.
And you're resorting to hairsplitting. Concession accepted.
It's not hairsplitting, you "literally" lied.
Let me start by saying that this game has an amazing direction in pretty much everything.
I ll even go a bit technical here. Some exceptional things that it does, not just good but amazing:
The character controller is one of the best i have ever used. Just walking, turning around, jumping, everything feels so well done. Animations and transitions are 10/10.
Face expressions are top notch. I can't think of ANY game out there that has such amazing facial expressions. With harley being the most well done and boomerang second.
Direction of cutscenes is sooo good. Loved every bit of them. Music is also picked correctly.
Design of the environment is such a breath of fresh air. They went bold and it worked.
Character design. Every character is so well done and has his/her own personallity.
Verticality is done well and traversing feels so much fun.
Character traversal being unique makes the game so much more fun without making the characters unbalanced something that games like Destiny 2 fail to execute. Each character has its own identity expressed in design and traversal and not power. This is good to me.
The story is FUN and i love it. Another breath of fresh air.
Suicide squads representations is done really well here. I won't go into spoilers but there are multiple times that these guys outright cause innocents to die for their own benefit in the story. We might be trying to save the world but they didn't simply turn into good guys.
2/10 you're not even trying to be subtle
Who the frick is Sweet Baby?
https://sweetbabyinc.com/
Peddlers of woketrash. They're the reason Spider-man 2 has blm propaganda and other wokeshit, just to mention another recent example.
>Harley Quinn lectures Batman about hurting people
Holy shit who wrote this garbage
People that hate you for being white and male.
甘い赤ちゃん
the suicide squad are villains. why would harley turn into a thoughtful person before she executes batman? even if shes forced to work for waller, harley is still mentally sick.
she does cry when wonder woman sacrifices herself to try to kill supes though, they all seem to consider her a real hero while literally pissing on flash's corpse even if he was only captured and brainwashed because he sacrificed himself to save them from batman
>diversifying and enriching
>Inclusive
Implying that anyone was being kept *out* of video games? The medium that most socially outcast went to?
Glad ESG is now a mainstream term so more people are seeing this crap as the grift it is. Like who plays a superhero game to get scolded about real world things??
>Glad ESG is now a mainstream term so more people are seeing this crap as the grift it is.
I've seen a couple of articles claiming that the companies pushing for esg have noticed the pushback and will stop using the term/start being more sneaky about pushing it
It's a borderline curseword. That's why Larry is rebranding it to DEI and trying again. And he'll keep trying until the bubble pops and blackrock is either forcefully dissolved or he gets kicked by the board for ruining the company in pursuit of his own goals.
>or he gets kicked by the board for ruining the company in pursuit of his own goals.
I would think the board would've already kicked him if they could given that there's no doubt they're not making as much money as they could by bankrolling shit companies just because they're full of homosexuals and trannies
Hey moron
>Blackrock
You Black folk malding about DEI, internal self governing ethics guidelines so mega corporations can pretend to have accountability when it comes to things like exploiting people in shit hole countries and polluting their water, is why they have DEI and ESG. To you, Blackrock isn't a monopoly group maximizing profit at the expense of workers and consumers, it's DEI and ESG.
>akshually this concept that's rigged so filling your shit shit with trannies and Black folk is by far the most cost effective way to raise the score isn't about pushing troony and Black person propaganda
lel
lelmao even
It's a pretty common fact that diversity was encouraged, not out of wokeness or any sort of social responsibility or morals, but due to marketing, protections against accusations of racism, and the fact that having a diverse workforce disrupts focus on corporate practices that negatively impact workers and consumers to the point of legal action and unionization; not only can they deflect attention to things they'd rather you talk about, they have a workforce that is less likely to cooperate and unionize. You are proof of that working, you'd rather talk about diversity. Airlines cut corners and you blame the possibility of a Black person working on airplane emergency doors.
That's common knowledge, you dunce. It's not a coincidence all this shit really started right as Occupy Wallstreet was gaining ground.
it started even before then, they were already discussing its economic ramifications in the 60s and 70s and at its core it targets the white man's guilt
It's not common knowledge because the implications of OWS and diversity topics exists to frame leftists as distracted and converted by corporate virtue signalling. The response should be "cool/don't care, now let's reverse citizens united" but instead it's
>I would think the board would've already kicked him if they could given that there's no doubt they're not making as much money as they could by bankrolling shit companies just because they're full of homosexuals and trannies
People don't talk about the business practices, how profit is consistently growing, they focus on diversity, Black folk, gays, anyone but the CEOs and execs.
>how profit is consistently growing
it certainly would grow much more if corporate america didn't castrate itself so badly research and productivity-wise by replacing all the high gpa asian and white men with women blacks and trannies
No, if you didn't have Black folk and trannies to blame for household appliances not lasting by design, planned obsolescence, you might actually figure out that taxing the wealthy, taxing Blackrock and regulating them more is good and makes a lot of sense as their money and power conflicts with our ability to own a house and start a family.
You see the results of unlimited wealth with no regulation and they're free to lobby all they want with politicians who shadow box with the concept of diversity and ESG.
>taxing the wealthy
you mean overtaxing them, and they'd just move to tax havens and you'd lose on all the taxes they pay now
>taxing Blackrock and regulating them
they hold america by the balls in more ways than one, they definitely don't need people blaming esg (which they only really started doing in the last few years) to stop politicians from doing anything to or about them
>overtaxing
It's odd how protective you are against regulating and taxing lobbyist transactions. It looks like you're coping with a defeatist mindset and you can't even imagine taxation and regulation as a solution, so all you really have is falling for their bait.
I couldn't give less of a frick about companies exploiting third world shitholes or two-digit iq monkeys tbqh, I mostly care about them shitting on my escapistic hobbies, making life harder and worse for me as a white straight male, and not maximizing my investments by virtue of caring about non profitable bullshit
Good news, moron. They are also fricking you over domestically in substantial ways. All this bullshit exists for you to not even consider this. You don't think about it, you don't talk about, and now you certainly don't vote about it, but if some politician says they don't like DEI, they have your attention. Works like a charm.
I told you that I don't care about them oppressing the little man or anything like that, I care about them making everything worse by destroying our entertainment, culture, and social/work environments, whether larry fink is a true believer or just does it opportunistically doesn't change that they're doing it through esg and dei investing
Yes, you don't care. That's by design, that's where they want you, and that's why they did this.
Please god let the AAA games industry burn
>How do these projects even get green lighted when nobody asked for them?
pretty sure this game was forced on rocksteady as warner bros. a) is desperately pushing for the suicide squad to be its own guardians of the galaxy and b) wanted a gaas game done when gaas seemed like the future of the industry and a sure bet
>How could they possibly think this would sell well?
brand recognition (justice league, suicide squad, harley queen, batman, arkham's batman to boot), goodwill towards the studio, plus it's not the end of the world if it doesn't sell since it assures them esg money
You'd think ESG-bait would be for one-offs not an attempt at a live service
I feel like they wouldn't have brought sweet baby inc. into the mix if they weren't aiming for that, plus back when this project started they were probably convinced that a gaas looter shooter would have been a sure bet in and of itself, not to mention that investors still seem convinced that fans will stick by their shit products no matter what and by pissing on their fans they will expand their market towards women, minorities etc.