>Superman didn't become Superman. Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he's Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red "S", that's the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears - the glasses, the business suit - that's the costume. That's the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent? He's weak... he's unsure of himself... he's a coward. Clark Kent is Superman's critique on the whole human race.
Is he right?
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Some of the most Reddit tier dialogue from Tarantinos second worst film (OUATIH being the first)
That is awful dialogue but Hollywood isn’t even close to his worst
give a better example of writing please
Don’t Look Now (1973)
Solaris (1972)
Picnic At Hanging Rock (1975)
No, give an EXAMPLE not listing movies
Not going to spoon feed you. Watch more films.
Muh bad writing never give ACTUAL examples of better writing because the writing isn't actually bad and everything can be cringe taken out of context
give a valid criticism on why this is a bad dialogue
>*wraps noose around neck, hangs self while jerking off furiously*
>*dies*
What did he mean by this?
at least he died doing what he loved
I thought the current lore was that he was killed and then set-up
He won.
He was probably assasinated and the killers arranged his body to make it look like an embarrassing suicide.
He’s wrong. He was born Clark Kent because he was adopted by the Kent family as an infant. Depending on what continuity it is his powers don’t manifest immediately either. He’s grown up as Clark Kent and invents Superman before understanding anything about Krypton.
Just to add to this, the dialogue makes sense to someone who only knows about Superman from cartoons and the movies. Which is what Tarantula knows I’d bet. He’s not a reader.
QT is fairly old and if he read comics it would have been back in The 70s . I doubt he was picking up the Byrne reboot of the character in late 80s
He's not wrong. He was born Kal-El, he was born with inherent powers. When he wakes up he wakes up as Superman, not as Clark. He's only Clark when he's around loved one, when he can forget about his obligations. But when trouble arises, when he hears a call, he's Superman through and through. Even at the office he's Superman disguised as Clark Kent, the hunched over man that's unsure of himself. But inside he's Superman.
Not really. Clark actually has three sides that he shows people, not two. One is Superman, the paragon of heroes. One is dumb Clark at the Daily Planet. The third is Clark when he is around people who know his secret, friends that he can relax with, and it's a blend and merge of both of his other faces. That's the real Clark Kent.
4. The Superman who isn't trying to keep anyone around him alive.
No, moron. Bill is like 60 years old, the gay shit you're talking about wasn't happening in the comics he read in his youth. Superman was fighting giant apes and selling Jimmy Olsen to white slavers and shit
>He was born Clark Kent because he was adopted by the Kent family as an infant.
These mean directly contradictory things anon. He doesn't become Clark Kent until he's adopted by the Kents.
Hateful Eight would be his best movie if there wasn’t a prolonged scene of Samuel Jackson making a guy suck him off
No, Superman was born Kal-El.
It's not about Superman (he's wrong about him), it's about Bill himself and how he sees the world.
I've known a lot of Superman fans who were bullies and buttholes in hs. They didn't even realize how weird that was. They put their philosophies onto Superman, just like Bill did there.
this but Batman is better. I think it was an episode of Beyond where these mind reading things try to uncover his identity but it doesnt work because in his mind he's Batman kek
*Keaton: I'M BATMAN.gif*
That’s sounds dumb as frick. I thought beyond was a good show. Now I’m not sure.
it sounds kino to me
>in my mind I’m a woman, therefore I am a woman
I don’t like that this makes sense
beyond was a proto-troony show
you need to take a break anon
I thought the Clark Kent persona was just the opposite of what you would expect from Superman, which just makes it a better disguise
It's a notoriously horrible disguise
Well it worked for 80 years
No.
Superman didn’t grow up on krypton knowing Kryptonian civilization, culture, or traditions. he was raised as a human on earth, he can’t pretend when it’s literally all he knows. He’s pretty much just a human with super powers who, fortunately for humanity, is an agnostic moralgay.
This dialogue works better in reference to Kara/Supergirl who actual knew and grew up on krypton and escaped as a teen.
It doesn't because Kara had no powers until her late teens and wouldn't have had any on Krypton anyway.
Clark... it depend son the version. Some have baby Clark with superstrenght. Some have him develop powers as a pre-teen. Some have him a late bloomer. His knowledge of Krypton also varies. In the golden age and silver age he had the same knowledge as if he was born there through the Fortress.
Powers or no, she would still need to pretend to be human.
She would need to adapt to human behavior and culture which is something Clark never had to do since he was immersed in it from birth.
I'm sure you apply this logic to how immigant children born in new countries are totally the same as the natives
Clark didn’t grow up surrounded by people telling him he isn’t from that planet and is less for it nor did he grow up around parents who provided him an alternate alien culture from the one he is immersed in
>nor did he grow up around parents who provided him an alternate alien culture from the one he is immersed in
his parents gave him his spaceship and let him visit the fortress of solitude
After he already grew up for several years as a Human and embracing human culture and after he actually developed powers where they couldn’t just sweep that shit under the rug anymore.
First part, yes, but "the way superman views us" is moronic.
He just pretends to be a nerd because nobody would assume a nerd could be Superman in disguise.
I think you've got to ask yourself, what is he doing when he's not at the Daily Planet. Does he have hobbies? Does he binge watch Netflix? No, whenever he's not actively pretending to be normal around people he's off doing Superman things. There's nothing behind the Clark Kent identity, so by definition it's a facade. Clark Kent falls under the umbrella of "Things Superman does", not the other way around.
he does farm shit moron
He listens to Metallica.
This bum ass homie don't know shit about Superman.
Bruce Wayne is a pimp, Clark Kent's a pussy.
ITT: ignorant, illiterate zoomers unaware that this dialogue is quoting The Great Comic Book Heroes by Jules Feiffer.
>"I didn't like the art"
The frick are you talking about. Hang-Fu? When he was created Shuster was top notch. Hell, that's what made Supes popular to begin with, and after that he had the best artists in the business, notoriously no less than motherfricking Curt Swan.
Absolutely awful take.
And granted, until the seventies or so, journalist Clark Kent was a facade and Supes the real identity, but even before Crisis Kent had stopped acting like a simpering buffoon and started being the dominant personality, and post-Crisis Supes is clearly Kent first.
Hell, there's that old panel with Sups and Bats introducing themselves to some sort of cosmic entity, Supes says "I'm Clark" and Bats says "I'm The Batman". That's the curent canon.
That was the Golden Age and to some extent Silver Age interpretation. There's even a golden age comic book were superman got caught and he just thought about dropping the Clark Kent persona because it didn't meant anything to him
Comics have moved from that for over 50 years but movie studios are still trying to use Superman as a messianic figure when the best interpretations have showed that Superman is at his best when the super is the man
>she touched his chest like it's an ATM keypad
biggest boss-battle let-down in history.
>doesn't understand kino
Don't worry anon. You'll get it one day.
>ching chong ding dong le chi energy poke huyahayaa le kino
tell me you're hapa without telling me you're hapa
>I said 'digital RECEIPT!' *tap tap TAP*
He’s basically right but Superman doesn’t act like Clark as some kind of joke on humans
He does it because he likes being around people and having a normal life some times.
Like how a normal person might have a dream about flying , Superman dreams about being a normal person.
He would need to be familiar with the culture to even know what “normal” is. He is familiar with it because he grew up in it. Human culture is Clark’s culture.
At no point are any of his personas a critique on the human race as a whole.
WROOOONG
>puts on some glasses and combs his hair a slightly different way
>omg here is a deep breakdown of superman's clark kent alter ego the stoners will love this
No. Superman simply decided the best cover would be to act a complete opposite of his real self. It has nothing to do with other humans.
>Is he right?
Yes. If for no other reason that it pisses off Supergays.
Clark is the true identity, Superman is the costume
Batman is the true identity, Bruce Wayne is the costume
POTTERY
>Superman became less popular than Batman after Writers switched how their alter egos worked
Bravo
He was born a Kryptonian, but that doesn't make him a superhero, it just makes him invincible and immortal. He became Superman because he was raised in a white community with middle American values
But Superman isn’t Christian primarily because of all the aliens he’s friended or fought.
the wonders of the universe only strengthen his faith
It most issues about “what if Superman landed some where else besides Smallville” he eventually always becomes a hero
Earth-3 Ultraman did not become a hero
>Is he right?
No, he's postmodern.
everyone is talking about the writing in relation to the comics, but what about in relation to bill and the film itself?
what the frick is the point of this dialogue? to say some people are born killers and some arent, and how she will never live a normal life? normally i like qt's writing but this seems like a really silly and forced way to say that
Tarantula sucks. Don’t bother. I hate him and I hate that so little hate him also. To start, he has never written a single dialogue in his while fricking career. He writes monologues exclusively. Monologues moronic put in scenes were dialogues are expected. Next he doesn’t write anything actually meaningful. It’s just shit that he thinks “sounds cool”. His whole career is a series of fricking reddit OPs
How is that silly? It's what happened in the fricking story.
>all this ESL morons that miss the point the dialogue and its context
>muh bad writing because i must hate popular things
Another example of this site having to many low iq morons
>redditors ITT trying to debunk a fictional assassin's understand of Superman
Garbage take. Clark Kent is who he is, Superman is his "job."