>David Corenswet and Emma Mackey are the frontrunners for Clark Kent and Lois Lane.
>Bill Skarsgard is the frontrunner for Lex Luthor.
>The Authority will already be an active government-sponsored team when young Superman appears to show the world there is a better way.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/superman-legacy-inside-james-gunns-search-1235523954/
Superheroes already existing when Superman hits the scene is pretty dumb if it's not the JSA
Based on what we know about Gunn's DCU, I think it will be that the Authority will be the main superheroes that are around, but Superman will come to inspire a new group of heroes who aren't dicks.
Batman is already around
I could see Batman symbolizing the intersection between the more dickish/edgy era and the more hopeful justice league.
>hits the scene is pretty dumb if it's not the JSA
people liked the JSA and shazam needs a team he's not overshadowed
>noo the jsa are lame!
>noo superman is the only survivor from krypton!
yeah no frick off
I like the idea of Batman already being grizzled and experienced when he meets Clark because it handily explains why he doesn't just call Superman to arrest all his villains, he already dealt with them in the past.
I don't agree. Making Batman an old man with his greatest hits in his past is the same mistake they made with Batfleck. Not that I expect the Gunns Batman to be as divisive as Snyders Batman.
>Bill Skarsgard is the frontrunner for Lex Luthor.
Fricking Kino
Thought that was a young Steve Buscemi for a sec
That's actually a pretty good description of him
He really looks like him huh.
Not those anons but yes.
>Bill Pissjård
This Authority shit sounds stupid. Why have Supes be the new kid on the block? When Superman makes his first appearance people should be like "How is this possible?" not "We already have several government stooges who do the same thing."
>When Superman makes his first appearance people should be like "How is this possible?"
That hasn't been the case since Crisis.
>Why have Supes be the new kid on the block?
To make him the relatable underdog so that he has a challenge to overcome. They're inverting Superman vs The Authority. While in the original comic Superman was the older more experienced and wise superhero who tries to make the younger more cynical and bitter Elite more like him. In this new movie Supermans going to be the younger idealistic naive hero who tries to prove the older experienced Authority's violent way of doing things wrong.
Guarantee you the authority will be a not so subtle jab at the Snyderverse.
They have a lot more in common with the MCU Avengers than Snyder's Justice League.
And The Boys has a Justice League ripoff as their main antagonists, but the show is still meant to be a dark joke at the expense of Disney and their exploitation and oversaturation of the superhero genre.
It wasn't obvious? I just hope Superman actually takes time to hear their argument out and the movie doesn't completely strawman or demonize them as completely unreasonable hypocrites like the original Superman #775
They just made the mistake of making a Flash film that wasn't even about The Flash, now they're making a Superman movie that's just a backdoor pilot for an Authority film. Lame.
The Authority are just in the movie, it's not about them
Have you read the script? Can you post spoilers?
We know only 3 members of the Authority are in it. Hawksmoor, The Engineer, and Jenny Sparks
I don't see it that way exactly. It seems like The Authority will be stand ins for The Elite. They serve the purpose of showing the appeal of a superhero like Superman.
I'd think they'd have to not be the Authority of the comics since the point there isn't that they're buttholes, it's that they're buttholes to deal with problems that you can't stop with moralizing and an inadequate prison system. Given their normal function, a hero like Superman coming along would seem like a plea for a less effective method that gets more civilians killed.
The Authority don't really make any actual progress though, as a consequence of being a part of DC where status quo is law.
Yes, and I think merging the universes was largely a mistake. The Authority made sense where they were, but they're a weird idea in main DC outside of that sort of fun campy quality Midnighter has as an extra-edgy Batfamily member who shows up like their weird uncle.
I'd even take their name being given by the public and not "official" with all of their press trying to downplay it.
>a hero like Superman coming along would seem like a plea for a less effective method that gets more civilians killed.
So they're making Superman the naive liberal youth to the authority's pragmatic conservatives. When it should be the other way around. Well that's not gonna go over well with the older superman fans.
Older Superman fans aren't trying to push the moronic idea that he's ever been a conservative figure.
He was raised on a farm and did go to church on sundays. Are you saying he wouldn't have any conservative values at all?
You would know he's never been a conservative if you'd ever read or seen anything involving the character.
Your suggestion that you have to be conservative if you go to church as a kid is pretty funny though.
Agree to disagree.
You can disagree if you want, but it is simply factual that Superman is not a conservative. It's a laughable claim.
Now, a case can be made that he has certain values that conservatives like, but that's not the same thing. The "conservatism" there requires the person to believe no one else can value a particular abstract idea like the rule of law or being honest, which doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
It's also a laughable claim to believe someone from kansas would have the same moral code (or lack thereof) as someone from a big city. I'm not saying Superman would be a bigot. I'm saying he'd be opposed to degeneracy and nihilism.
Those are meaningless buzzwords, and Superman is notably extremely non-judgy about what people get up to in their private time or personally believe if they aren't committing crimes.
Then he stands for nothing and isn't a worthy Superman at all.
whatever you say
Its hilarious when morons try to apply their own personal red/blue politics to fictional characters. Everyone hates you both, also.
Only one of those was trying to apply politics. You should do a better job disguising how fragile you are.
NTA, but he's right. No one cares. You both just look like buttholes. You should just let people slew their moronation. The best way to show someone is an idiot is to let them speak.
Why would you think a calm refutation of someone's incorrect belief was bait in the first place, and why would you be offended by it?
I guess your post was meant to illustrate your point.
>Incorrect belief
This is why everyone hates you.
Am I supposed to be hurt that you're mad at nothing?
Just letting you know why your life sucks
See
It doesn't make me upset that you're having a meltdown over nothing.
>now they're making a Superman movie that's just a backdoor pilot for an Authority film
Who at Warner thought it was a good idea to make a movie about a dark and nihilistic Justice League ripoff, after over a decade of b***hing from DC fanboys about making the actual Justice League movie too dark and nihilistic.
Neither version of the Justice League movie was dark or nihilistic.
a movie that wants superman to be the change that kickstart the era of new heroes
also snyder era wasn't that dark ZSJL have tons of hope moments the problem is that snyder is at core a big batgay
There's reason to believe this entire DC reboot will be dead on arrival. Even if the movies are good.
New Frontier NEEDS to be a period piece, post WW2, Cold War, Korean War, McCarthyism etc plus the transition from the Golden Age to the Silver Age
If Gunn plans to use the dinosaurs and Center shit and the Justice League forming in the aftermath but divorced from all that, he'll just reduce it to generic action
I speculate The Centre is going to be more of an eldritch lovecraftian force considering Lanterns is suppose to be a True Detective style show where Hal and Jon investigate a mystery that escalates into a terrifying revelation that affects the DCU, which will probably be related to The Centre.
>The Centre is going to be more of an eldritch lovecraftian force
Another generic alien monster with disposable alien goons coming to destroy humanity in a city destroying invasion isn't going to cut it after the avengers movies ran that entire thing into the ground. They need to do something to distinguish themselves from Marvel instead of just repeating what they've already done and done much better.
The Centre isn't an alien though and he kind of is unique in that main overarching villain of the DCU is a living island rather than a guy like Thanos or Kang in the MCU.
We've already seen that in the MCU before, and the new hasbro universe is doing that again with Unicron in the new transformers movies. I lack the imagination to see how they can do a unique spin on it.
>ZSJL have tons of hope moment
Yeah. After two movies of the fans b***hing about making Superman a killer and Batman a guntoting maniac.
>snyder is at core a big batgay
You didn't understand Batman v Superman
neither did you when that garbage was just excalibur
Fricks sake, can they let these characters rest for 5 minutes?
No offense to Skarsgard. He's an excellent actor and definitely better choice than Eisenberg. But I really wanted an older Lex Luthor. And Gunn better put his Superman actor on a workout routine just as intensive as Cavills was.
Techbro Luthor believing "NO ALIEN IS BETTER THAN MY CARDBOARD SPACESHIP. LIGHT THE ROCKETS."
did buscemi found the fountain of youth? a failed clone??
Will they make Manchester Black a member of The Authority or will the actual Elite be non-existent because they would be redundant?
rumors say he is jenny brother
Manchester was a member of the team in Morrisons Superman And The Authority. Though he wasn't exactly happy about it.
Read a rumor that he's apart of the Authority and is now the brother of the character he was a parody of, Jenny Sparks.
So just a retelling of Superman vs the Elite?
What better story to tell the fans and general audiences who hated the Snyderverse that they're not going to do that anymore, than the story that's about Superman winning the moral argument against a nihilist Superhero team.
If I want to see Superman vs the Elite I'll watch Superman vs the Elite.
This movie clearly isn't for the fans, but for the non-fans that haven't watched the animated movie.
he doesn't win a moral argument he just physically beats them up and declares he'll continue to let civilians die
In the original comic. Not so much in the animated movie where it's much more nuanced.
if they're doing the Superman vs Elite strawman story with the meta implication that people totally want old timey wholesome Superman more than 'modern' heroes then its going to flop and be very cathartic.