Same reason LOST isn't worth watching if your a zoomer who's going to marathon it alone in Netflix. You'll just never get the true durn to yah experience.
This isn’t true. LOST is the best show ever made or that ever will be made because it’s supremely good. The supremely good discussions were merely the golden sprinkles on top of a golden sundae.
As far as reality TV goes, it is pretty much as good as it gets. Some seasons suck, some are very good, and there's a lot of middle of the road seasons. I recommend starting with Season 28: Cagayan or Season 15: China to see if you like it, as those are two seasons that are regarded as very good. So if you watch and don't like, then the show is not for you.
Is that the one where the survivors are bowing in a temple or something and one of the b***hes starts freaking out about how she's only supposed to worship jesus christ and >what we were doing in there felt like worship
? kek
I've been watching it live with my mother for like 10 seasons and we watched back about 20 old seasons online in full. All of it was worthwhile. Peridiam has a YouTube channel that does survivor stuff and he has a viewing order one in there somewhere, I'd reiccomend it
Stopped watching few seasons ago when they started drafting people to be sob stories instead of good competitors. I don't need every single male to be a giga Chad but fricking christ everyone on there lately save 1 is some noodle-arm dork.
70% of the casting feels like they just went to some Liberal art college and got kids there.
Blame Dan and 39: Island of the Idols. CBS is terrified of another situation like that and/or genuine villains.
>show styled around surviving on desert islands >it's all people-pleasing "alliances" and drama bullshit when everyone isn't sleeping on the beach waiting for some tasks while like two people try to actually fish or build a shelter before being voted off
At least Alone had all the competitors actually working to survive, too bad about them all being alone and just waiting to see who loses too much weight the fastest. Give me a show where you get immunity points for having built the best shelter, having caught the most fish, or discovered the most shipwreck caches on the island etc, to make sure people actually try to do shit instead of just sit around and gossip.
This last season cut down on that a lot. Only one I can remember is when they got letters and some black lady said something about getting a letter from her mom that she hadn't spoken to in like 20 years, the whole thing was like 30 secs long.
>show styled around surviving on desert islands >it's all people-pleasing "alliances" and drama bullshit when everyone isn't sleeping on the beach waiting for some tasks while like two people try to actually fish or build a shelter before being voted off
At least Alone had all the competitors actually working to survive, too bad about them all being alone and just waiting to see who loses too much weight the fastest. Give me a show where you get immunity points for having built the best shelter, having caught the most fish, or discovered the most shipwreck caches on the island etc, to make sure people actually try to do shit instead of just sit around and gossip.
Last season I remember being into was Season 37 (David vs Goliath). It was pretty good. I remember shitposting on the Survivor general back then too lol
Start with S1. the first dozen seasons are so are best. Falls off hard once they hit HD, the show has clearly totally rearranged its production priorities by that point to a vapid shell of what it used to be.
Do not start with 1: Borneo, and don't believe that it suddenly gets bad in HD.
Anyone got a list of survival shows that are about actual survival instead of womanly games of stabbing each other in the back and getting people to vote out the one who would be most likely to win if it was about survival?
No, frick off.
It started good but went downhill when the meta became "get fat as frick before production starts and then out-starve everyone else"
The meta now is: craft a bullshit sobstory, pay 33: Millennials vs GenX Adam Klein to "help" with your application, memorize the locations of all the hidden immunity idols they place on the same Fijian beaches, and 3-D print and practice the same lazy challenges
all the people saying to not start on season 1 are kinda moronic, the first id say 10 seasons feel much more real and authentic compared to later seasons. That alone makes them in my opinion much more enjoyable to watch, most of the interaction the castaways have with each other are real and feel genuine. the first 10 seasons are very enjoyable. Watching in order also lets you see the changes through the many years its been on air.
Ignore this. Do not start with S1.
[...] >skipping 13: Cook Islands which produces 5 returnees across 11 individual return plays >skipping 29: SJDS which people getting BTFO and producing 2 winners >skipping 36: Ghost Island with its unique finale
Just admit you're racist.
what’s your deal with season 1? I know it’s a smooth brain thing to say but it’s just comfy.
Because to a casual modern viewer who's never really watched the show, it will seem quaint and uninteresting. At the time, it was a phenomenon. But without the parasocial element, it's not as impactful. Once he's invested after watching a few seasons, he might appreciate it.
I've personally known and read about people who've started with season 1 who end up quitting. They're more likely to stick around if they start with something newer first, then go back and watch Borneo.
interesting, to me the simplicity of both the production and non-existent gameplay made it a refreshing watch from all the perfectly formulated for max dopamine release entertainment you see these days. A real time capsule to simpler times.
Anyone got a list of survival shows that are about actual survival instead of womanly games of stabbing each other in the back and getting people to vote out the one who would be most likely to win if it was about survival?
Yeah I've seen a season of that and it was neat. Wish it would be set somewhere a little more forgiving, though. Seeing people build shit on a desert island would be more interesting than seeing them hunker down by a fire from the cold in Alaska and try not to move because they need to preserve energy over and over.
The Island with Bear Grylls is decent, there's no real contest but you get to see people endure and battle the elements. The season where it's the men's and women's islands is pretty funny for the contrast and the guys have some good bonding moments.
https://i.imgur.com/s87i032.jpg
Is this shit worth watching?
And worth all seasons?
Only ever saw the meme reaction images from it
Australian Survivor is where it's at nowadays, the editing is much better, the challenges have more variety and you can actually tell what's going to happen at tribal instead of having random blindsides with no foreshadowing. And the people playing it are better characters than anything post 40 American Survivor.
The seasons are a bit long so it can drag at parts but it's still more enjoyable.
>season 1-10 are all classics, certified bangers >season 11-20 are hit or miss, but when they hit, they hit >season 21-24 are terrible, and can/should be skipped >season 25-30 are all great except Caramoan (26) >season 31-40 are pretty good but have 3 or 4 stinkers (around this time they stop traveling the globe and having themes centered around places and stick to filming in Fiji only) >season 41-43 are awful, bogged down with shitty sob stories and too much identity politics bullshit with forgettable players and winners, easy skips (the 40s are also where they dropped themes completely and the seasons are referred to only by number) >season 44 and 45 are good and feel like a return to form but not as good as earlier survivor
overall I'd say the show is worth watching if you want good reality kino to watch
My favourite [REDACTED] fact is that he owns a sound system worth like two or three millions dollars, he had to knock out a wall to bring in all the stuff on a truck because it was so heavy, and he uses it to play CDs and thinks he can hear pins dropping in the studio.
I would mostly agree with this assessment. I'm one of those people who has never been unduly bothered by nu-Survivor, although I do wish the game were more relationship based like in the good ol' days and they *really* need to go back to Final 2. The game is still engrossing and it's fun to root for/against people. Last 2 seasons have indeed been a slight step up. My New Year's resolution is to finally apply for it this year. If I ever get on I'll try to sneak in a subtle "big guy" during confessionals.
Start watching from season 1 in order. All the best personalities pretty much appear in the first 10 seasons, apart from the greatest “villain” makes their debut somewhere between season 10 and 20, can’t remember. The early seasons also gave me similar feelings of longing to simpler times much like that famous video of people hanging out at a 7/11 at 3am in the 90’s.
1-4
6-7
clips of All-Stars highlights on YouTube
9-10
12
15-21
22 if you liked the highlight clips of All-Stars, 25, 27, 28, 30
35, 37, 38
40
Everything else isn't really that interesting imo.
>skipping 13: Cook Islands which produces 5 returnees across 11 individual return plays >skipping 29: SJDS which people getting BTFO and producing 2 winners >skipping 36: Ghost Island with its unique finale
Just admit you're racist.
Okay, based. But still.
Skipping Cook Islands is pretty dumb from an overview standpoint, even if the season itself "despite being billed as Race Wars" is pretty lame.
After suffering through the late 30s and 40s, it might be more enjoyable than people remember.
Plus, I think it makes other seasons better. >16: Micronesia >20: Heroes vs Villains >23: South Pacific >25: Philippines >27: Blood vs Water >34: Game Changers >40: Winners at War
Interestingly, I find 2: The Australian Outback more tedious than I used to, but it's practically essential viewing given that literally half of the cast has returned at some point.
Would like to see them bring back a little 'camp life' kino and general struggle for survival scenes. Every season now is just hyper focused on the social gaming.
Good way to spend an hour (now 90 minutes) if you have nothing else to do on a Wednesday Night. It is definitely a shell of it's former self though. The 50% POC thing has wrecked it.
The POC quota was bad, but what's worse is the "Family Friendly" emphasis that old man Jeff has now.
It's no longer an adventure, and that allows Production to coast and focus on predictable outcomes and cost-saving.
It's summer camp for white collar nerds and "le quirky" redditors playing the same challenges on the same Fijian beaches all trying to make "BIG MOOVES" and being good sports when they lose only playing 26 (instead of 39) days.
There's a reason CBS doesn't want to/and hasn't yet brought back veteran's from the original era. Anyone's who's played before would scoff at what a joke Production is now.
>BIG MOOVES" and being good sports when they lose only playing 26 (instead of 39) days.
I agree with everything but this. It may seem like that on the surface but post S40 juries have been bitter as frick behind the scenes.
>bitter as frick behind the scenes
Perhaps. But that's not the "show". The show as presented by the castaways and edited by CBS is a bunch of Gamebot Superfans who are SOOO excited for their "Survivor Experience", have the same thoughts-values-voting criteria, and don't express genuine frustration at losing the game due to being normalgays or concern of social media backlash.
honestly it's not even that but cirie admitted the very structure of survivor is easier than big brother because they have down time from the cameras in a way that doesn't exist on big brother
I think cirie would've done well had she not brought her tard son on, he almost single handedly sunk her game and she was blinded by mommy blinders to it. without his frickups the game was set up for her to win and she probably would have
That's pretty much all reality TV, it's more if they can hack together a decent narrative and if it's entertaining at all to watch which depends on the people the have.
Cirie was fun to watch in her seasons.
Start with 1 if you are planning to watch all of them, survivor at its core is a drama about social relationships. The first 10 are overall the best, 11-20 are hit or miss but on average are okay, 21-30 starts leaning on bad except for a few season, 31-40 is mostly average and there is only like 2 not terrible seasons after that.
>Start with 1 if you are planning to watch all of them
That's like telling a fatass who's trying to get into shape to run/walk 13.1 miles on the first go if he's planning to run a half-marathon at some point.
It's possible he'll stick with it, but it's far more likely he'll quit.
I was a hardcore Survivor fan from S01 to S20, spending hours discussing the show on Usenet but I gave up on it after it became obvious the contestants were only going on the show to try and create a Hollywood career and the show was catering to these types of people (Russell Hantz was the final straw for me).
>but I gave up on it after it became obvious the contestants were only going on the show to try and create a Hollywood career and the show was catering to these types of people (Russell Hantz was the final straw for me).
Like who? I've literally never heard of anyone going Hollywood post Survior maybe another reality tv show stint but nothing else beyond that. They've had people already in Hollywood compete like screen writers and actors but that's it.
>Colleen Haskell (1) >Elizabeth Hasselbeck (2) >Colby Donaldson (2) >Rafe Judkins (11) >Chase Rice (21) >Matt Elrod (22) >John Cochran (23/26)
No one here is huge, but they definitely leveraged their Survivor appearance(s) for future acting/performing/writing/producing/hosting.
Oh yeah, I forgot about her. She ended marrying some NFL quarterback and got a gig on "The View", until the screeching Leftist harpies on the show chased her off.
>I've literally never heard of anyone going Hollywood post Survior
Well, Colleen Haskell from S01 got a role in the Rob Schneider comedy "The Animal" but the fact that none of the Survivors managed to make a Hollywood career out of the show, doesn't stop them from going on the show and trying to do it.
Russell Hantz was blatantly obvious about it, his entire shtick was being a total butthole so that he'd get the maximum amount of "face time" on camera, even though his behavior meant he wouldn't win the contest.
>never been a contestant as unapologetic and machiavellian as him
Uh, Boston fricking Rob...who actually won and lost by one vote the other time he made it to the end?
Uh, Richard Hatch?
Uh, Todd Herzogg?
>never been a contestant as unapologetic and machiavellian as him
Uh, Boston fricking Rob...who actually won and lost by one vote the other time he made it to the end?
Uh, Richard Hatch?
Uh, Todd Herzogg?
Child's play compared to Brian Heidik, man literally used racism as a weapon to win the game.
Who knows. His story has changed over the years. He claims a producer let it slip in a confessional during HvV when he wanted to vote out Jerri ("do you want to lose again?"). One drunken video from within the last few years has him recalling he thought he lost until he got home and his wife told him about all the promotional material for Samoa (he filmed Samoa and HvV back to back, and returned home the day before Samoa aired).
>35: Heroes vs Healers vs Hustlers: all the shit for Ben and introducing the Firemaking challenge >16: Amanda's unshown idol find >29: facilitating Julie's quit, saving Josh and Jeremy's showdown to make the jury phase >not tied to a particular season, but allowing sidebar conversations at tribal so their favorites can strategize last minute >allowing Tina to cheat off Laura in the Redemption Duels in 27: Blood vs Water
not rigging, but clearly Production was big mad: >moving to Final 3 after Terry lost the final immunity challenge in 12: Panama >moving to jury discussions inside of individual questioning after Aubrey lost in 32: Kaoh Rong >removing the difficult clues from 21: Nicaragua and resuming "searchable" locations for the HII so Boston Rob could find them in 22: Redemption Island >reducing the power of the idol after Yul leveraged it to flip Penner in 13: Cook Islands >eliminating Exile Island after Brendan was a huge dud with the [spoiler]Exile Alliance in 18: Tocantins >clarifying jury compositions after Naonka and Purple Kelly quit in the jury phase of 21: Nicaragua[/spoiler]
Yul winning with that tactic was a happy accident. They weren't happy about the idol getting pocketed, saved, and used that way.
Tina to cheat off Laura in the Redemption Duels in 27: Blood vs Water
Don't see how that counts as rigging copying puzzles from others has always been allowed
They took it to another level.
>not rigging, but clearly Production was big mad:
One of the early All Stars where they expelled Hatch because he got naked and whatshername cried about a day later.
He was voted off for being a winner, not ejected for what he did. Sue's own tribe was happy she was gone, Jeff was embarrassed by the whole affair, and Production didn't give a shit and thought she was angling for lawsuit money.
Tina to cheat off Laura in the Redemption Duels in 27: Blood vs Water
Don't see how that counts as rigging copying puzzles from others has always been allowed
In season 30 Worlds Apart there was an immunity challenge for both a male and female winner. This was when it was down to productions favorites Mike and Shirin against the Axis of Evil alliance at the next tribal council. Clearly an attempt to save Shirin since and to break up the majority alliance.
>first season, plays like a mad lad and wins >second season, knows he's doomed and just has a good time getting take out super early >third season, some how comes in under the radar and lowers his threat level and becomes the second two time winner
KING SHIT
1) Woo is Korean
2) He has a surfer mentality, but is actually drug free and a mentor and martial artist
3) Taking Tony was honorable. It's just the Cagayan jury didn't value Honor, and bought into the bitter gamebot Spencer-led "Weasel Woo" propaganda/conspiracy theory.
4) It was only $1 million. Tony wasn't guaranteed the $2 mill in Winners at War. And it's probably closer to $1.8 total after additional prize money (Reunions, Game Changers appearance) and taxes.
honestly by the final tribal it seemed like they weren't that into each other as much as they were before so i assumed they wouldn't work out.
but wendall cheating on his girl with dee was wild shit
Google, man.
Off the top of my head, Victoria from 38: Edge of Extinction had one, but she was a tease.
There are a few old school players with Playboy shoots (Christa Hastie's from 7: Pearl Islands being surprisingly good), and a few others with random modeling (Amanda, Courtney) or topless scenes in flicks (18: Tocantins Candace, 17: Gabon Sugar)
Google, man.
Off the top of my head, Victoria from 38: Edge of Extinction had one, but she was a tease.
There are a few old school players with Playboy shoots (Christa Hastie's from 7: Pearl Islands being surprisingly good), and a few others with random modeling (Amanda, Courtney) or topless scenes in flicks (18: Tocantins Candace, 17: Gabon Sugar)
Frick US Survivor, 45 seasons too long, watch Australian survivors 2nd season 2017, then watch the next 7 seasons inorder. This past season is considered the best season and even was on the new York Times top 10 TV episodes of 2023. Us survivor hasn't been consistently good since 2010
I’ve watched a season I don’t remember which I think 4th correct me. All I remember is that basically every single participant was a Tony, they were all playing their fricking ass off and the last game before the finals was great
Frick US Survivor, 45 seasons too long, watch Australian survivors 2nd season 2017, then watch the next 7 seasons inorder. This past season is considered the best season and even was on the new York Times top 10 TV episodes of 2023. Us survivor hasn't been consistently good since 2010
George from Aussie Survivor mogs all of US Survivor cast with his autism incarnate antics. But that's season 8 (or 6) onwards. Most hilarious shit I've watched.
I don't watch Aussie shit or other 2nd and 3rd world Survivor or Big Brother seasons. I don't care, and no amount of shit in the US versions will ever drive me to watch theirs.
I can't stomach modern US Survivor but the Aussie one is legit. The host is good, people are pretty to look at, there's actual characters and varied challenges. Give it a try sometime.
The whole timeline would have changed. If Russell won (Samoa), then the Russell vs Rob feud that started at the Heroes v Villains finale likely wouldn't have happened. Russell could have laughed in Rob's face for actually winning, and he'd have less motivation to play a 3rd time in 4 seasons against Rob. Since 3 seasons was the unofficial limit at the time, it's possible Rob would not have had a chance to win (Redemption Island), or would have been a vet on an entirely different cast. Even if it was RI with Richard Hatch instead of a winner Russell, it would have likely turned out differently.
If Coach won (South Pacific), it's hard to tell. Especially since Rob might not be the winner of Redemption Island in this scenario. Maybe Blood vs Water would have turned out differently? Maybe Game Changers would have Rob or someone else? With Russell's gameplay confined to 19/20 Samoa and HvV, I don't think Brandon Hantz showing up in 23: South Pacific is a sure-thing either. Without Brandon, Coach's game is dramatically different, as is Cochran's outcomes in SoPa and/or Caramoan. Without Sophie, another female winner would need to take her place. Jenna? Tina?
Overall, it's crazy. And I don't think Russell's or Coach's (winning) gameplay would be well suited for hilarity if they appeared on Winners at War.
Dee is a shit-tier winner and I have no idea why there was any hype around her at all. She had one single good move and that was it. The rest of her game was fortune
The Kim Spradlin effect. She was up against a bunch of idiots so her win seems more impressive and dominant than it actually was. Seriously, it was less that she won and more that people just threw their game for dumbass reasons. I'll give her credit for stringing Austin along from the jump and somehow making Kataruh her snitch that handed her the win.
In Europe, there's variations of it all over the continent. It's great fodder for reality TV but it does get old after a while as does all this schlock.
2013, one of the contestants had a heart attack. The show's doctor killed himself the week afterwards, the media had raised questions about his part in it and he couldn't handle it.
He had a heart attack
French Survivor is called Koh Lanta it’s much more centered around physical aspect instead of backstabbing and strategies which are heavily frowned upo by both the prod and the audience. The few tactics going on there are at the level of primitive Survivor seasons and the players almost get reprimanded for it
>initial rumors were dirty, stuff like the doctor had to slow his intervention because they needed a second take, he had talked about feeling bad right before, they didnt use the heli to evac him because it was too expensive, etc >family was notified of his death with a quick phone call from some studio assistant >autopsy revealed a heart defect and no foul play, dailies showed the doctor intervened right away, he was conscious during the heart attack
I don't even watch Koh Lanta but the memes were nice but remember because I thought it was absurd the doctor killed himself before the whole thing had played itself out. Why didn't he just wait for public opinion to settle and the investigation to reach an end?
Besides Aubry who else was a robbed queen? Personally, I think Hannah was robbed of the MvGX win. She was a spaz but at least her moves were successful unlike Adam.
We're due for another race war season. The was some of the most recent seasons went they may as well pull the trigger instead if pretending people wouldn't be excited for it.
Was only worth watching weekly back in like 2000-2004 since you could discuss and speculate about the show with others irl.
Why not anymore
Same reason LOST isn't worth watching if your a zoomer who's going to marathon it alone in Netflix. You'll just never get the true durn to yah experience.
This isn’t true. LOST is the best show ever made or that ever will be made because it’s supremely good. The supremely good discussions were merely the golden sprinkles on top of a golden sundae.
>he didn't frequent survivorsucks back in the aughts
NGMI
As far as reality TV goes, it is pretty much as good as it gets. Some seasons suck, some are very good, and there's a lot of middle of the road seasons. I recommend starting with Season 28: Cagayan or Season 15: China to see if you like it, as those are two seasons that are regarded as very good. So if you watch and don't like, then the show is not for you.
Should I not start with S1 and go in sequence
Is that the one where the survivors are bowing in a temple or something and one of the b***hes starts freaking out about how she's only supposed to worship jesus christ and
>what we were doing in there felt like worship
? kek
Survivor autist here (who hates the newer seasons), let me set the record straight:
Agreed. Watch 15:China or 28: Cagayan.
Disagree, there are a few in the first 10 that aren't good.
Absolutely not. Start with a modern one. Even 25: Philippines or 32: Kaoh Rong would be preferable.
The first 10 seasons are basically all great. It takes a dip it never recovers from after that
I've been watching it live with my mother for like 10 seasons and we watched back about 20 old seasons online in full. All of it was worthwhile. Peridiam has a YouTube channel that does survivor stuff and he has a viewing order one in there somewhere, I'd reiccomend it
Obviously I love it it's like crack
Stopped watching few seasons ago when they started drafting people to be sob stories instead of good competitors. I don't need every single male to be a giga Chad but fricking christ everyone on there lately save 1 is some noodle-arm dork.
70% of the casting feels like they just went to some Liberal art college and got kids there.
>solos every team challenge
did you watch this guy's season?
Did you even read my post? I said vast majority of guys are nerds.
Also the winner of that season was bullshit. She made one slight move at the end and the jury loved her due to being Asian.
Everytime this guy said Mr. Jeff it got me howling.
Blame Dan and 39: Island of the Idols. CBS is terrified of another situation like that and/or genuine villains.
That's a different show then. Frick off.
This last season cut down on that a lot. Only one I can remember is when they got letters and some black lady said something about getting a letter from her mom that she hadn't spoken to in like 20 years, the whole thing was like 30 secs long.
>show styled around surviving on desert islands
>it's all people-pleasing "alliances" and drama bullshit when everyone isn't sleeping on the beach waiting for some tasks while like two people try to actually fish or build a shelter before being voted off
At least Alone had all the competitors actually working to survive, too bad about them all being alone and just waiting to see who loses too much weight the fastest. Give me a show where you get immunity points for having built the best shelter, having caught the most fish, or discovered the most shipwreck caches on the island etc, to make sure people actually try to do shit instead of just sit around and gossip.
Last season I remember being into was Season 37 (David vs Goliath). It was pretty good. I remember shitposting on the Survivor general back then too lol
Start with S1. the first dozen seasons are so are best. Falls off hard once they hit HD, the show has clearly totally rearranged its production priorities by that point to a vapid shell of what it used to be.
Do not start with 1: Borneo, and don't believe that it suddenly gets bad in HD.
No, frick off.
The meta now is: craft a bullshit sobstory, pay 33: Millennials vs GenX Adam Klein to "help" with your application, memorize the locations of all the hidden immunity idols they place on the same Fijian beaches, and 3-D print and practice the same lazy challenges
>Do not start with 1: Borneo,
Why so?
Wont it help with rules and thingsph48x
all the people saying to not start on season 1 are kinda moronic, the first id say 10 seasons feel much more real and authentic compared to later seasons. That alone makes them in my opinion much more enjoyable to watch, most of the interaction the castaways have with each other are real and feel genuine. the first 10 seasons are very enjoyable. Watching in order also lets you see the changes through the many years its been on air.
yeah they're real and authentically boring
amazon/PI are great, and I like vanuatu/marquesas but i have zero interest in rewatching most of the older stuff.
>rewatching Marquesas, Thailand, All Stars, Vanuatu, or Palau
I seriously shiggy you guys don't diggy this
what’s your deal with season 1? I know it’s a smooth brain thing to say but it’s just comfy.
Because to a casual modern viewer who's never really watched the show, it will seem quaint and uninteresting. At the time, it was a phenomenon. But without the parasocial element, it's not as impactful. Once he's invested after watching a few seasons, he might appreciate it.
I've personally known and read about people who've started with season 1 who end up quitting. They're more likely to stick around if they start with something newer first, then go back and watch Borneo.
interesting, to me the simplicity of both the production and non-existent gameplay made it a refreshing watch from all the perfectly formulated for max dopamine release entertainment you see these days. A real time capsule to simpler times.
>A real time capsule to simpler times.
Want some serious [chair clattering]?
honestly for me it’s always been Corinne
For me, it's her eyes and the fact I'd feel slightly disgusted that she got me off. However, I prefer the superior Jewess, RC St Amour
Anyone got a list of survival shows that are about actual survival instead of womanly games of stabbing each other in the back and getting people to vote out the one who would be most likely to win if it was about survival?
i like Alone
It started good but went downhill when the meta became "get fat as frick before production starts and then out-starve everyone else"
that's just basic strats and it doesn't determine the winner as much as successful hunting does.
Yeah I've seen a season of that and it was neat. Wish it would be set somewhere a little more forgiving, though. Seeing people build shit on a desert island would be more interesting than seeing them hunker down by a fire from the cold in Alaska and try not to move because they need to preserve energy over and over.
It would be kinda depressing because you could survive for way longer. The record is already 100 days which is pretty insane.
The Island with Bear Grylls is decent, there's no real contest but you get to see people endure and battle the elements. The season where it's the men's and women's islands is pretty funny for the contrast and the guys have some good bonding moments.
Australian Survivor is where it's at nowadays, the editing is much better, the challenges have more variety and you can actually tell what's going to happen at tribal instead of having random blindsides with no foreshadowing. And the people playing it are better characters than anything post 40 American Survivor.
The seasons are a bit long so it can drag at parts but it's still more enjoyable.
Season 2 of Bare Grill's The Island is the greatest accidental comedy you will ever watch.
It's unironically woke now, but the early seasons are pretty good
>season 1-10 are all classics, certified bangers
>season 11-20 are hit or miss, but when they hit, they hit
>season 21-24 are terrible, and can/should be skipped
>season 25-30 are all great except Caramoan (26)
>season 31-40 are pretty good but have 3 or 4 stinkers (around this time they stop traveling the globe and having themes centered around places and stick to filming in Fiji only)
>season 41-43 are awful, bogged down with shitty sob stories and too much identity politics bullshit with forgettable players and winners, easy skips (the 40s are also where they dropped themes completely and the seasons are referred to only by number)
>season 44 and 45 are good and feel like a return to form but not as good as earlier survivor
overall I'd say the show is worth watching if you want good reality kino to watch
fricking Fabio winning season 21 is the funniest thing ever tho
My favourite [REDACTED] fact is that he owns a sound system worth like two or three millions dollars, he had to knock out a wall to bring in all the stuff on a truck because it was so heavy, and he uses it to play CDs and thinks he can hear pins dropping in the studio.
>and he uses it to play CDs
What else would he play?
I would mostly agree with this assessment. I'm one of those people who has never been unduly bothered by nu-Survivor, although I do wish the game were more relationship based like in the good ol' days and they *really* need to go back to Final 2. The game is still engrossing and it's fun to root for/against people. Last 2 seasons have indeed been a slight step up. My New Year's resolution is to finally apply for it this year. If I ever get on I'll try to sneak in a subtle "big guy" during confessionals.
>My New Year's resolution is to finally apply for it this year
good luck
Just in case you get on, if you're a straight male, go F3 with all men. That's your only shot.
Start watching from season 1 in order. All the best personalities pretty much appear in the first 10 seasons, apart from the greatest “villain” makes their debut somewhere between season 10 and 20, can’t remember. The early seasons also gave me similar feelings of longing to simpler times much like that famous video of people hanging out at a 7/11 at 3am in the 90’s.
Ignore this. Do not start with S1.
>skipping 13: Cook Islands which produces 5 returnees across 11 individual return plays
>skipping 29: SJDS which people getting BTFO and producing 2 winners
>skipping 36: Ghost Island with its unique finale
Just admit you're racist.
I'm racist.
Okay, based. But still.
Skipping Cook Islands is pretty dumb from an overview standpoint, even if the season itself "despite being billed as Race Wars" is pretty lame.
I don't disagree that Cook Islands is important but it was a chore to watch.
After suffering through the late 30s and 40s, it might be more enjoyable than people remember.
Plus, I think it makes other seasons better.
>16: Micronesia
>20: Heroes vs Villains
>23: South Pacific
>25: Philippines
>27: Blood vs Water
>34: Game Changers
>40: Winners at War
Interestingly, I find 2: The Australian Outback more tedious than I used to, but it's practically essential viewing given that literally half of the cast has returned at some point.
>Just admit you're racist.
Yes.
>it's a boston contestant
Cringe
Would like to see them bring back a little 'camp life' kino and general struggle for survival scenes. Every season now is just hyper focused on the social gaming.
vindicated
Him going to exile was one of the most hilarious episodes ever especially when he "hurt" himself on the challenge
Like any show that's been on for decades, there are highs and lows. Definitely worth the ride if you ask me.
All time interaction Shane casually throwing out hunting Courtney down and murdering her in her shitty apartment.
For me, it's Courtney.
Frick. Is she Australian? Can tell by how she mouths Shaul dah!
Be like rolling around with a pillowcase full of coathangers.
Good way to spend an hour (now 90 minutes) if you have nothing else to do on a Wednesday Night. It is definitely a shell of it's former self though. The 50% POC thing has wrecked it.
The POC quota was bad, but what's worse is the "Family Friendly" emphasis that old man Jeff has now.
It's no longer an adventure, and that allows Production to coast and focus on predictable outcomes and cost-saving.
It's summer camp for white collar nerds and "le quirky" redditors playing the same challenges on the same Fijian beaches all trying to make "BIG MOOVES" and being good sports when they lose only playing 26 (instead of 39) days.
There's a reason CBS doesn't want to/and hasn't yet brought back veteran's from the original era. Anyone's who's played before would scoff at what a joke Production is now.
>BIG MOOVES" and being good sports when they lose only playing 26 (instead of 39) days.
I agree with everything but this. It may seem like that on the surface but post S40 juries have been bitter as frick behind the scenes.
>bitter as frick behind the scenes
Perhaps. But that's not the "show". The show as presented by the castaways and edited by CBS is a bunch of Gamebot Superfans who are SOOO excited for their "Survivor Experience", have the same thoughts-values-voting criteria, and don't express genuine frustration at losing the game due to being normalgays or concern of social media backlash.
Watch:
1-4
6-7
clips of All-Stars highlights on YouTube
9-10
12
15-21
22 if you liked the highlight clips of All-Stars, 25, 27, 28, 30
35, 37, 38
40
Everything else isn't really that interesting imo.
some of the girls in certain seasons were outrageously hot
cirie on big brother confirmed the show is overedited hackery
>imagine needing a 50 year old nurse and her moronic son getting BTFO on /bb/ to confirm that Survivor is overedited
honestly it's not even that but cirie admitted the very structure of survivor is easier than big brother because they have down time from the cameras in a way that doesn't exist on big brother
I think cirie would've done well had she not brought her tard son on, he almost single handedly sunk her game and she was blinded by mommy blinders to it. without his frickups the game was set up for her to win and she probably would have
That's pretty much all reality TV, it's more if they can hack together a decent narrative and if it's entertaining at all to watch which depends on the people the have.
Cirie was fun to watch in her seasons.
You didn't need one of the most overrated players in the community to see that, you only see like 1% of what happens in the island.
Start with 1 if you are planning to watch all of them, survivor at its core is a drama about social relationships. The first 10 are overall the best, 11-20 are hit or miss but on average are okay, 21-30 starts leaning on bad except for a few season, 31-40 is mostly average and there is only like 2 not terrible seasons after that.
>Start with 1 if you are planning to watch all of them
That's like telling a fatass who's trying to get into shape to run/walk 13.1 miles on the first go if he's planning to run a half-marathon at some point.
It's possible he'll stick with it, but it's far more likely he'll quit.
I was a hardcore Survivor fan from S01 to S20, spending hours discussing the show on Usenet but I gave up on it after it became obvious the contestants were only going on the show to try and create a Hollywood career and the show was catering to these types of people (Russell Hantz was the final straw for me).
Ozzy apparently said that Amanda had the nicest breasts.
Russell is still trying to make it on youtube yet barely gets views. It's rough for the midge.
>but I gave up on it after it became obvious the contestants were only going on the show to try and create a Hollywood career and the show was catering to these types of people (Russell Hantz was the final straw for me).
Like who? I've literally never heard of anyone going Hollywood post Survior maybe another reality tv show stint but nothing else beyond that. They've had people already in Hollywood compete like screen writers and actors but that's it.
>Colleen Haskell (1)
>Elizabeth Hasselbeck (2)
>Colby Donaldson (2)
>Rafe Judkins (11)
>Chase Rice (21)
>Matt Elrod (22)
>John Cochran (23/26)
No one here is huge, but they definitely leveraged their Survivor appearance(s) for future acting/performing/writing/producing/hosting.
>Elizabeth Hasselbeck
Oh yeah, I forgot about her. She ended marrying some NFL quarterback and got a gig on "The View", until the screeching Leftist harpies on the show chased her off.
>I've literally never heard of anyone going Hollywood post Survior
Well, Colleen Haskell from S01 got a role in the Rob Schneider comedy "The Animal" but the fact that none of the Survivors managed to make a Hollywood career out of the show, doesn't stop them from going on the show and trying to do it.
Russell Hantz was blatantly obvious about it, his entire shtick was being a total butthole so that he'd get the maximum amount of "face time" on camera, even though his behavior meant he wouldn't win the contest.
I think Russell is just that delusional.
Okay.
Google them.
Russell was peak entertainment though, completely changed the game but there’s never been a contestant as unapologetic and machiavellian as him
>never been a contestant as unapologetic and machiavellian as him
Uh, Boston fricking Rob...who actually won and lost by one vote the other time he made it to the end?
Uh, Richard Hatch?
Uh, Todd Herzogg?
Child's play compared to Brian Heidik, man literally used racism as a weapon to win the game.
Our Lord and Savior Brian Heidik
Who knows. His story has changed over the years. He claims a producer let it slip in a confessional during HvV when he wanted to vote out Jerri ("do you want to lose again?"). One drunken video from within the last few years has him recalling he thought he lost until he got home and his wife told him about all the promotional material for Samoa (he filmed Samoa and HvV back to back, and returned home the day before Samoa aired).
Version I have always heard was that he thought he had won until a conversation with Shambo and she told him he got destroyed in the vote.
>Is this shit worth watching?
>And worth all seasons?
It's "Reality TV" it's all scripted and fake and gay.
Let's talk about obvious rigging in seasons
>thailand's fake merge
>outcasts
>cook islands bottle
>any fan favorites vs fans season
>35: Heroes vs Healers vs Hustlers: all the shit for Ben and introducing the Firemaking challenge
>16: Amanda's unshown idol find
>29: facilitating Julie's quit, saving Josh and Jeremy's showdown to make the jury phase
>not tied to a particular season, but allowing sidebar conversations at tribal so their favorites can strategize last minute
>allowing Tina to cheat off Laura in the Redemption Duels in 27: Blood vs Water
not rigging, but clearly Production was big mad:
>moving to Final 3 after Terry lost the final immunity challenge in 12: Panama
>moving to jury discussions inside of individual questioning after Aubrey lost in 32: Kaoh Rong
>removing the difficult clues from 21: Nicaragua and resuming "searchable" locations for the HII so Boston Rob could find them in 22: Redemption Island
>reducing the power of the idol after Yul leveraged it to flip Penner in 13: Cook Islands
>eliminating Exile Island after Brendan was a huge dud with the [spoiler]Exile Alliance in 18: Tocantins
>clarifying jury compositions after Naonka and Purple Kelly quit in the jury phase of 21: Nicaragua[/spoiler]
Nah, I'm sure they were happy with Yul leveraging the idol so the more likeable alliance could win. The shit was just ridiculously overpowered.
Yul winning with that tactic was a happy accident. They weren't happy about the idol getting pocketed, saved, and used that way.
They took it to another level.
He was voted off for being a winner, not ejected for what he did. Sue's own tribe was happy she was gone, Jeff was embarrassed by the whole affair, and Production didn't give a shit and thought she was angling for lawsuit money.
>2010 to 2014
>>a decade earlier
Tina to cheat off Laura in the Redemption Duels in 27: Blood vs Water
Don't see how that counts as rigging copying puzzles from others has always been allowed
>not rigging, but clearly Production was big mad:
One of the early All Stars where they expelled Hatch because he got naked and whatshername cried about a day later.
Nah, Hatch remained, Sue quit but wanted to get back later that day but the rest of the players told her to frick off according to Lex.
People don't want to hear it but Dan's removal from S39 was probably to prevent him from winning.
In season 30 Worlds Apart there was an immunity challenge for both a male and female winner. This was when it was down to productions favorites Mike and Shirin against the Axis of Evil alliance at the next tribal council. Clearly an attempt to save Shirin since and to break up the majority alliance.
I'm elated Shirin got dunked on so hard in 31: Cambodia - Second Chance.
To be fair there were many times where we had that male/female division but you are right in that it was to try to save Shirin.
Literally the greatest player in the entire series this man was playing 4D chess as soon as he stepped foot on the sand
Too bad his final season was during Covid, what a miserable finale on the zoom call they had.
Probably the only example of the " I was only pretending to be moronic" strategy working.
Fabio perfected it a decade earlier.
>first season, plays like a mad lad and wins
>second season, knows he's doomed and just has a good time getting take out super early
>third season, some how comes in under the radar and lowers his threat level and becomes the second two time winner
KING SHIT
Lmao that stoner chinaman was the dumbest fricker ever for taking Tony to the end. Literally gave Tony 3 million
1) Woo is Korean
2) He has a surfer mentality, but is actually drug free and a mentor and martial artist
3) Taking Tony was honorable. It's just the Cagayan jury didn't value Honor, and bought into the bitter gamebot Spencer-led "Weasel Woo" propaganda/conspiracy theory.
4) It was only $1 million. Tony wasn't guaranteed the $2 mill in Winners at War. And it's probably closer to $1.8 total after additional prize money (Reunions, Game Changers appearance) and taxes.
Did you all hear about Dee friend zoning Austin and breaking up Wendell and his baby mama? lol.
It was obvious they broke up, right after the season ended and they were talking about taking it slow.
link?
https://old.reddit.com/r/survivor/comments/18zpf0r/statement_from_wendell_on_recent_rumors/
People are predictably blaming Wendell because he's an easy target but Dee would have had to be a complete dumbass to not know about his GF/kids.
Austin was a pathetic simp. It was obvious D didn't give a shit about him
honestly by the final tribal it seemed like they weren't that into each other as much as they were before so i assumed they wouldn't work out.
but wendall cheating on his girl with dee was wild shit
Only the Australian version
I remember being so pissed off that Yau-Man got voted off that I stopped watching Survivor with my parents
Who voted him off again?
First time it was Dreamz going back on the car deal in Fiji, then the couples alliance in micronesia.
Where are all the hot contestants that got onlyfans or leaked nudes or something.
Google, man.
Off the top of my head, Victoria from 38: Edge of Extinction had one, but she was a tease.
There are a few old school players with Playboy shoots (Christa Hastie's from 7: Pearl Islands being surprisingly good), and a few others with random modeling (Amanda, Courtney) or topless scenes in flicks (18: Tocantins Candace, 17: Gabon Sugar)
You guys are forgetting the most famous, Ozzy.
I didn't forget. I omit.
What the frick I never heard of this and the sextape is with the most ugly fat slampig ever too. You'd think Ozzy could do better.
Ozzy's a bigay. I guess he'll frick anything.
he was probably paid
Pearl islands
Cook islands
China
Tocantins
Heroes v villains
Cagayan
Winners at war
Watch in that order, then stop.
I discovered it with S28, literally marathoned it in one sitting, stayed up all night until 7PM because I could literally not stop watching it
homie in the top left was a kino factory
Frick US Survivor, 45 seasons too long, watch Australian survivors 2nd season 2017, then watch the next 7 seasons inorder. This past season is considered the best season and even was on the new York Times top 10 TV episodes of 2023. Us survivor hasn't been consistently good since 2010
I’ve watched a season I don’t remember which I think 4th correct me. All I remember is that basically every single participant was a Tony, they were all playing their fricking ass off and the last game before the finals was great
George from Aussie Survivor mogs all of US Survivor cast with his autism incarnate antics. But that's season 8 (or 6) onwards. Most hilarious shit I've watched.
I don't watch Aussie shit or other 2nd and 3rd world Survivor or Big Brother seasons. I don't care, and no amount of shit in the US versions will ever drive me to watch theirs.
I can't stomach modern US Survivor but the Aussie one is legit. The host is good, people are pretty to look at, there's actual characters and varied challenges. Give it a try sometime.
No thanks.
>All I remember is that basically every single participant was a Tony
Soprano?
Are you dumb or have you not watched the best Survivor seasons yet
If it's not in HD, watch it, if it's HD don't watch.
This guy was literally Cinemaphile
I would have done the same as him
Imagine if Dragon Slayer and Russel won their seasons and were on Winners at War. Shit would have been gold
Rumors are that it was originally going to be a legends season.
Game Changers was originally going to be a "Rivals" season which you can see in some of the casting choices.
The whole timeline would have changed. If Russell won (Samoa), then the Russell vs Rob feud that started at the Heroes v Villains finale likely wouldn't have happened. Russell could have laughed in Rob's face for actually winning, and he'd have less motivation to play a 3rd time in 4 seasons against Rob. Since 3 seasons was the unofficial limit at the time, it's possible Rob would not have had a chance to win (Redemption Island), or would have been a vet on an entirely different cast. Even if it was RI with Richard Hatch instead of a winner Russell, it would have likely turned out differently.
If Coach won (South Pacific), it's hard to tell. Especially since Rob might not be the winner of Redemption Island in this scenario. Maybe Blood vs Water would have turned out differently? Maybe Game Changers would have Rob or someone else? With Russell's gameplay confined to 19/20 Samoa and HvV, I don't think Brandon Hantz showing up in 23: South Pacific is a sure-thing either. Without Brandon, Coach's game is dramatically different, as is Cochran's outcomes in SoPa and/or Caramoan. Without Sophie, another female winner would need to take her place. Jenna? Tina?
Overall, it's crazy. And I don't think Russell's or Coach's (winning) gameplay would be well suited for hilarity if they appeared on Winners at War.
Russel entered HvV thinking he had won.
>"Reality" TV
>worth watching
lol
>watching scripted television/movies written by ~~*Hollywood*~~ "writers"
lmao
Joke's on you, I only watch anime.
that's not a flex.
I don't care that this is a Visayan flipbook forum. Adults watching anime is cringe.
Anime website.
not an argument
I accept your concession.
You can accept my dick in your mouth.
I'm not about that life.
>Verification not required.
Good. If you enjoyed it, its punitive element would be negated.
Survivor is absolute fricking Kino, the latest season was great
One of the few shows I hate discussing on here. Every season gets spoiled and it's way better to watch if you don't know who wins.
I wouldn't even google the season before watching all of it, unless it's a currently airing season. They slap the winner on the first search result.
Dee is a shit-tier winner and I have no idea why there was any hype around her at all. She had one single good move and that was it. The rest of her game was fortune
The Kim Spradlin effect. She was up against a bunch of idiots so her win seems more impressive and dominant than it actually was. Seriously, it was less that she won and more that people just threw their game for dumbass reasons. I'll give her credit for stringing Austin along from the jump and somehow making Kataruh her snitch that handed her the win.
In Europe, there's variations of it all over the continent. It's great fodder for reality TV but it does get old after a while as does all this schlock.
Didn't contestants literally die in some of those random shithole country versions
I think it happened in France.
2013, one of the contestants had a heart attack. The show's doctor killed himself the week afterwards, the media had raised questions about his part in it and he couldn't handle it.
Did he actually have a heart attack was there anything foul involved for sure?
He had a heart attack
French Survivor is called Koh Lanta it’s much more centered around physical aspect instead of backstabbing and strategies which are heavily frowned upo by both the prod and the audience. The few tactics going on there are at the level of primitive Survivor seasons and the players almost get reprimanded for it
From what I recall :
>initial rumors were dirty, stuff like the doctor had to slow his intervention because they needed a second take, he had talked about feeling bad right before, they didnt use the heli to evac him because it was too expensive, etc
>family was notified of his death with a quick phone call from some studio assistant
>autopsy revealed a heart defect and no foul play, dailies showed the doctor intervened right away, he was conscious during the heart attack
I don't even watch Koh Lanta but the memes were nice but remember because I thought it was absurd the doctor killed himself before the whole thing had played itself out. Why didn't he just wait for public opinion to settle and the investigation to reach an end?
Watch the ripoff version from south america instead
Mark the chicken should have won
Still can't believe they didn't bring him in for the reunion show.
Besides Aubry who else was a robbed queen? Personally, I think Hannah was robbed of the MvGX win. She was a spaz but at least her moves were successful unlike Adam.
For me?
It's Cook Islands
We're due for another race war season. The was some of the most recent seasons went they may as well pull the trigger instead if pretending people wouldn't be excited for it.
watch panama, KINO season
Culpepper should have won
seriously how could a trial lawyer be so bad at presenting a narrative to the jury?
The guy was wearing a potato sack at ftc. I wouldn't have taken anything he said seriously either.