>survivors guilt
>post-wartime PTSD
>Japan in literal ruins
>the bond of soldiers
>veterans banding together with disarmed machines of war
>family values
>Godzilla is a literal walking nuke
>beyond the bomb, movie is largely about how much kamikazes, banzai charges, and abandoning the significance of life fricked up Japan
>USA and USSR are so petty that they don't even get involved and instead leave it to the Japanese tugboats
>all made for the cost of a 5-bedroom home in California
What a fricking film, goddamn
Eitherway I'm not watching it anymore.
Two trailers with goji this year is kino.
3 is a clusterfrick.
>Zilla
>good
glad you agreed.
>several US warships get rekt by Godzilla
>US government just dips out anyway
even GvK casually shat on the military give it up Gomez
But even this they were fair about: The Japanese government and military dipped as well. I liked that they had the citizens band together and take matters into their own hands.
Like true leftists dream about!
No, like true humans do. If you attatch civic pride to a political ideology, you're mentally ill/depressed irl. But if you insist on doing so, citizens banding together and standing against the Government, and taking matters of Government into their own hands is the least 'leftist' thing imaginable. You seem unwell, brother.
I know it’s anti left. I’m making fun of all the Reddit tier posts trying to claim this is a progressive movie bc it’s good.
But sadly civic duty is not universal.
it's honestly funny how an anti-american godzilla film does so well compared to the slop they make with modern zilla movies
Only a brainlet would think that the new movie is anti-American. It's anti-bushido more than anything.
It was absolute trash. Not a Godzilla film at all, he 5 minutes of screen time could be removed and it would be exactly the same boring k-drama.
You've been posting this troll bullshit in every single thread, same made up story every time. If you had actually watched it you would know how fricking stupid you look.
Nothing he said was wrong. Cope harder shill.
>he
Still samegayging I see
What causes people to see the world through such a lens? It's a very good and hopeful movie through and through.
Having your only option for interacting with another human being being pissing them off on Cinemaphile
what is ur endgame are u the director or something
Just a sad group of people. It is better to take pity on them and don't respond to bait because they just want attention (due to lack of attention in their own lives). They hate you, they hate me, they hate everyone (including themselves).
The movie was amazing. They haven't seen it and probably will never see it. I doubt they are even 'fans' of Godzilla.
>What causes people to see the world through such a lens?
The same reason why people call leddit a circlejerk. On Cinemaphile, it's the same but it's a doomer circlejerk.
If you genuinely believe this, there is legitimately no hope for you. It's the best movie to hit theaters since COVID, unironically. It was refreshing for a movie to come out that wasn't filled with partisan bias and socio-political rhetoric every other line.
The frick are you talking about? Half the movie was critiquing the jap government and whining about how bad they were during the war. This would be considered woke here if it was from a U.S. point of view
And then veterans went out to sacrifice themselves to protect their people. Didn’t even have a country left at that point but understood they had a people.
Superficial idolatry vs actions, or really lamenting the difficulties of something does not equal anti the thing to anyone other than leftists.
Being a parent is really fricking hard there is a lot of critiques I could give parenting but I’m not anti family or anti natal. Hell I can point of those things to say how incredible parenting is bc it’s worth it.
If this movie was woke, the black woman pilot would have demanded the evil Japanese society die with Godzilla to give the diversity a chance to leave and be refugees behind the safe lines of the white Europeans who own them.
If a character changes to better themselves it’s not leftist story telling. Leftist story telling is when the character is perfect and the world has to change to stop suppressing the characters perfection.
>Discord trannies hate this one weird trick
>the weird trick is stating reality
>It was refreshing for a movie to come out that wasn't filled with partisan bias and socio-political rhetoric every other line.
Protip: the only reason you think this is because you aren't a Japanese national. Dumb fricking weeb. This movie was VERY political, but you don't have the context and perspective needed to comprehend it because you're just a tranime homosexual. It wasn't a good movie by any measure.
War sucks is not political. No one got on a soap box and berated the other side in their wish fulfillment piece.
Representing universal values most people hold is not political. Political story telling is when don’t explore the merits and demerits of an ethic, but use very time specific language to grandstand 1 current position.
That anon was correct. You did not understand the film.
No, he's not.
actually explained his position in detail, and what he explained is true. The movie never moral grandstanded. It was bi-partisan and hardly made any overt political statements.
Why didn’t the Japanese just leave and become refugees? There is no value to a land or having a people so what’s the point of fighting it?
And why didn’t they let the women, minorities, and queers help?
A good question that will go unanswered.
>samegayging this hard to pretend like you didn't get BTFO'd
Kek
>samegayging
Got ‘em
Trannies seething over based homogenous males btfo Hollywood DEI
This 100%. Never believed in shilling on this board until this piece of shit came out. Although, it's probably more likely that 99 percent of you have shit taste
This has been great for spotting newbies who haven't been around long enough to witness Cinemaphile during the release of a Japanese Godzilla movie.
Japanese Godzilla movies are SRS BSNSS.
Right? It's insane how astroturfed and artificial the praise for this pile of shit is. There was nothing good about it, but anime trannies simply do not have the brain capacity to do anything but screech "IT'S GOOD BECAUSE JAPAN!!!"
And yet, there has not been a legitimate, reasonable criticism of the film posted on this board yet, yet everyone who liked it can state in no uncertain terms why it was good. Why in this very thread, all the negative reviews are people making things up that did not happen in the movie. When the only criticism that can be levied against it are made up, something tells me that means it's a good film.
Still gonna go watch it instead of Marvlels and Wish, Mouseshitter.
Uhh i think those movies are shit too? I cant remember the last good movie i saw.
>Uhh actually I think those films are totally bad too
The embodiment of lies resonates off you that it stinking beyond the computer screen.
You might be genuinely mentally ill bro
First sign of schizophrenia is telling others they're mentally ill.
>everything is bad
Depressed irl
Name 5 good movies released this year. I'll wait
If by 'good' you mean not riddled with socio-political rhetoric and pandering, and actually displaying universal human emotions, catharsis, and experience in a basic human way, as well as being well crafted and entertaining, then:
The Nun II
MI: Dead Reckoning
Equalizer 3
Outlaw Johnny Black
Gozilla: Minus One
and those are just off the top of my head
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha what homie ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>the only movie that isn't a sequel to a long running franchise is about a Black killing white people
oy vey
Black killing whiggers*
stopped reading at the nun
In order:
Godzilla minus 1
Avatar 2
Mission impossible
Cocaine bear
John wick 4
Du
Good try Disney
>US doesn't want to get involved in fears of soviet retaliation or something
Japan was basically ruled by the US at that point anyway? Who cares if the US gets involved to kill a monster.
I've seen so many Japs pointing out that that's completely unrealistic but they also understand it needed that kind of excuse since it's Japanese gojira movie
America is Godzilla as metaphor, the monsterous bomber and occupier from across the sea landed on Nippons shores. Having actual America become involved would just confuse the narrative, so they get handwaved away with cold war excuses. Japan must look into itself to face the destruction and occupation by Godzilla alone.
>Having actual America become involved would just confuse the narrative
its a huge thing to just ignore though, inherent to the time period. like if you can't force your theme to work in context i dunno
America is virtually in the title as the star and antagonist of the movie, he gets front billing on the poster. The movie is about the Japanese reponse to American monstrosity, it's content is the America question.
Them being worried about Soviet retaliation kinda falls apart when the full extent of Godzilla’s destructive capabilities becomes apparent.
>Excuse me President Truman, would you mind explaining to me why our sensor arrays have detected evidence of multiple weapons-grade nuclear detonations in the vicinity of Japan?
it's for narrative purposes, you fricking Black person
besides, how is a pedantic c**t like you even suspending the belief for godzilla existing in the first place
you just want to watch a shitty red alert movie
I really enjoyed it
Loved how the first time they used the classic Godzilla theme I was cheering for the big lizard. But the second time had me wanting the humans to kick his ass
You forgot a few other things that made it great
>no blacks
>no gay shit
>no trannies
>no israelites
>no quips
>>no quips
It surprised me how huge of a thing this was for me. Just having a pulpy movie take itself seriously instead of constantly breaking the mood with a one-liner was such a relief.
Japan did nothing wrong, and I wish we had let them exterminate China.
The J-gov told the generals not to invade inland China. Japan had the right ideas and plans, but their shitty culture and lack of leadership skills fricked them. The inability to solve difference argumentatively instead of autistically doing something until some samurai autist cuts your head off for doing it.
Japan's goal was to take Nanking to prevent the Chinese government from fricking with Manchuria.
Had they not been on a war footing, their liberation of Euro colonies would have been better received, for example it was well received by the Malaysian people.
We also have no sense that the people of Taiwan gave a shit about being a Japanese colony.
Koreans were treated poorly but they are also a practical Black person race of hyper aggressive proud morons.
Japan is also moronic, thinking they're being nice to you when they treat you like a peasant.
They were all moronic thought. Japanese historically have starved to death because they refused to eat grains other than rice out of sheer autism.
Anyway, Japan was actively trying to surrender when America was bombing it.
Forget about the nukes, the firebombs killed more.
A decision was made in 1944 to stop strategically targeting war factories, and go whole hog on civilians. A few officers protested and then resigned over it.
This was a deliberate shift away from sensible war strategy to genocide.
Literally on the basis of "well if we win who's going to say anything".
>Japanese historically have starved to death because they refused to eat grains other than rice out of sheer autism.
This doesn't sound right at all. Historically everyone ate various millets. Rice was only affordable for relatively small number of people.
It's completely right. The Jap Navy was so obsessed with White Rice that they frequently had scurvy and other diseases while serving at sea. They wanted white rice so badly that they demanded to be paid in it and they would eat it because white rice was status and "luxury".
iirc a US guy rode on some Jap boats after the war and forced them to eat real food and they suddenly had way way way less health incidents and dead crewmen.
I've always wished Jim Varney had lived long enough to make a period piece called The Importance of Being Ernest.
>That webm
Sam Reimy was fricking unhinged back then. How was that so?
>that webm
I've relistened to this track several times since I saw the movie, so good:
I also liked those little moments in the movie like when he tilted the plane to look down on the country side for a few seconds. It was he was thinking 'this may be the last time I see land'.
>no quips
I was so worried the young guy who was kind of the comic relief would have started quipping, but no he was pretty level headed the entire time.
saw it today, me and the buddies gave it an overall 8/10. I was a lower score from that but yeah, pretty good. Not flawless, but when I learned of its budget, totally forgivable.
>Not flawless, but when I learned of its budget, totally forgivable.
This is a thing a lot of the general Western population forgets. A Godzilla movie can only be at very best like an 8/10, and the vast majority of them are objectively flawed, low quality movies. It's a franchise built on shoestring budgets and duct-taped-together special effects. No Godzilla movie will ever be anywhere close to 2001 or Citizen Kane because that's not the point, but they also always take themselves far more seriously than any Marvel movie. They're heartfelt monster flicks.
godzilla is obviously a visual metaphor for the nukes...
who still doesnt understand this is really an idiot. the minus one movie should've made that very clear now
I wonder what japanese ppl think of the movie
It's been very well received in Japan, although I don't know if it'll become a phenomenon like Shin Godzilla was since that movie was more topical. Minus One has a more personal story and feels a lot more like a classic Godzilla movie.
It’s just a pointless stupid statement. Who is pro nukes? Everyone hates them.
In minus one Godzilla is a better metaphor for the absolute US victory and the pilots guilt.
>survivors guilt
>post-wartime PTSD
>the bond of soldiers
>veterans banding together with disarmed machines of war
>family values
These are the compilation of what Americans love most.
>things Americans love most
>Family values
We do, they just don't want us too. Breaking up family's so kids can be raised and influenced by the system is the goal.
Why do you think the media has declared all out war on them? There's no need to try to brainwash us into hating things we hate naturally
Americans love most
values
Yes, and the absence of that is why Disney's stock is in the shitter
Correct.
to mock anon
>>gets mocked instead
Fricking zoomers.
This movie is at the same time very negative about the glorification of being a soldier, there's a scene where a dumb kid who was too young to fight in WWII laments "missing out on it" and expresses his eagerness to join the military effort; two Japanese veterans tell him "Not having fought in a war is something to be proud of." You don't see a lot of that in American movies
This
It's doesn't glorify serving in war, it celebrates soldiers and civilians alike surviving it
The same kid who fulfills his arch by showing up the fight and saving day by getting involved when told he doesn’t have to?
This is why liberals and normies are stupid. Always taking superficial dialogue vs the actual actions in a movie or book.
Acknowledging the bad of something does not mean you are anti that thing or think it should be dismantled.
The guy with PTSD reaction is understandable but you are supposed to understand his reaction with the context of his ptsd. Millions of men who don’t go also have survivors guilt and is just as valid an experience.
Did you also miss the part where Shinkisama would have died anyway if he was home and not ordered to be a kamikaze pilot? If you are going to die anyway why not fricking try and save your neighbors kids?
This is called balance and accurately showing all sides. Thomas Aquino’s and especially Hobbes wrote like this acknowledging or lamenting the bad of something while defending it as the correct or morally right thing. Criticism only means outright rejection and dismantling of thing to leftist sycophants
This is another banger that Reddit grooms and discord trannies are trying to ignore.
They are so stupid and desperate.
>child in movie
>two heterosexual adults of the same race
>no one says to brainwash and mutilate the child
>no one says the adults should form a poly pod and raise the child in a commune
>neighbor gives charity only to the child, adults can care for themselves
>everyone encourages the man to marry the woman and make her his wife
>but the experimental prototype plane has an ejection seat made by the same culture we are criticizing for using suicide pilots mind you, so really this film is Marxist
I hate mid wits so fricking much
I see it more as bluntly stating the reality of what war is for the average boot
Blindly and mindlessly following any and all orders given by higher ups to fulfill this supposed "honourable duty", proving your undying loyalty to ideals (as outdated as they may be or misguided), etc
After the war none of those illusions remain for most, only the cold hard truth and aftermath.
You're thinking of the old America
The modern American loves interracial buttsex and HRT most
Revisionist history for the kpop generation of japanese. They spoke like in anime. It was obnoxious.
Goji makes the only mushroom cloud, there is no war or national identity whatsoever in a period film
The japanese are disenfranchised and apolitical but also perfect victims who have honor and death seeking ptsd
The government is to blame for total war, the people have no beliefs or values except to obey scientists at all times
Godzilla is a shinigami spirit of vengeance against cowardice that evaporates when you accept your life as a cuckold
6/10 directed by shinzo abe
>The government is to blame for total war, the people have no beliefs or values except to obey scientists at all times
did you watch the movie? One of its central themes is rejecting a culture that doesn't value your individual lives... the government is barely there at all in it.
Brainlet
I don't think it's true to say they were "perfect victims". The film makes it a point to show that Japan had a cultural problem of treating life cheaply (the scene right near the beginning where the neighbor lady condemns the protagonist for not following through with his pointless kamikaze mission, as an example), and Godzilla slaughtering thousands of Japanese is supposed to represent just how little Japan valued the lives of its own people at the time. The arc of the story is Japanese civilians coming together to reject that cultural problem and reaffirm the value of their lives.
You are wrong. It is revisionist in nature. The non entity government is vague abstraction with overall positive impression like fashionable gay scientist and reasonable military captain only taking volunteers. So they make superficial criticism of kamikazee kind of but the point wasnt they valued life cheaply it was the japanese people are innocent and removed from total war and old guard values. So the pilot is berated by the neighbor like his grandmother but its to show he is a humiliating loser with no dignity not that hes a victim of the war effort. Its truly like a marvel movie vapid casual abomination of the franchise but with nice boats. A good end would be the final 10 minutes of Gojira totally killing everyone in a blackened sky to maybe get the point across. Not redundantly say survivalism is a virtue. Spiritually chinese.
>Its truly like a marvel movie vapid casual abomination of the franchise but with nice boats. A good end would be the final 10 minutes of Gojira totally killing everyone in a blackened sky to maybe get the point across.
What the frick are you even talking about
The government is repeatedly described as being indifferent to the plight of civilians and even refusing to warn people of Godzilla's arrival until he is right at the shore and everyone can see him. The reason the pilot is a humiliated loser with no dignity is because that's what Japanese society deemed people who wouldn't kill themselves in service of a war that was already lost.
In service of protecting their people. Japan was fighting a defensive war at this point. You missed the part where the pilot would have died at home anyway.
Who is to say he wouldn’t have taken out the destroyer or carrier that bombed his neighborhood if he did his mission? Japan was trading dead lives from their pov.
You also missed the part where Godzilla emerged the same night Shinsikami rebuked his mission and didn’t go away until he fulfilled it.
The other 2 posters are correct, Godzilla is a vengeance monster of shinsikami’s cowardice and the plot of the movie is fulfill your duty or your people suffer.
You just got a nice spin on it where the pilot and his wife live when it was absolutely impossible for either one of them to live through their encounters.
No it was a critique and rebirth of the Japanese character, you're just an aggrieved victim wanting the Japanese to instrumentalise their lives and nation to an idol of shame and war guilt, like the Germans do the Shoah, instead of discarding all moloch idols of guilt and shame and everything that is anti-human, and rather self-actualising in full human flourishing where the nation serves as an instrument for the cultivation and flourishing of human life, not human life as an instrument for the nations goals as in the war.
Lol so for a Godzilla movie to affirm life everyone must literally live and the national identity must be retroactively neutered? It's literally the lowest common denominator Godzilla movie. Godzilla as mickey mouse. All on a set which derives from Jurassic park then jaws then king Kong? This pop movie is for marvel backpack koreaphile Japanese zoomers. Worthless. Pulls it's punches.
Yes the teleology of history is that all must be reborn into eternal life in the universal kingdom of God. Everything past your question mark is chat-gpt word salad, sentences are not made by combination of jargon words.
>A good end would be the final 10 minutes of Gojira totally killing everyone in a blackened sky to maybe get the point across. Not redundantly say survivalism is a virtue. Spiritually chinese.
Berserk homosexuals really are the biggest humiliation fetishists on earth. Stupid manlet mixed race mutts with a fetish for being yelled at.
You are so fricking stupid. Stop watching movies, and more importantly stop talking about them.
People like you won’t be happy until a Godzilla movie does an exposition dump apologizing for Japanese war crimes. It’s a weird fetish.
>A good end would be the final 10 minutes of Gojira totally killing everyone in a blackened sky to maybe get the point across. Not redundantly say survivalism is a virtue. Spiritually chinese.
What the frick is wrong with you?
Nihilists are so damn boring.
You are an idiot but I get it, you are coping for a way to enjoy an excellent film that disagrees with your core values
Anon just say you wanted them to depict the Japanese with devil horns, much quicker.
>the people have no beliefs or values except to obey scientists at all times
so just like in real life?
>Revisionist history for the kpop generation of japanese.
Well yeah. What did you expect? WW2 ended nearly 80 years ago. Japan wasn't going to stay "postwar" forever. Germany hasn't. Even America, which won the damn war, is increasingly ambivalent about postwar institutions like NATO and the UN.
Shin Godzilla's arguement that the Post War Era is still going on to this day. And its right.
>Goji makes the only mushroom cloud, there is no war or national identity whatsoever in a period film
The backdrop was a geo-political conflict, but that doesn't mean they have to focus on it, and they rightly didn't.
>The japanese are disenfranchised and apolitical but also perfect victims who have honor and death seeking ptsd
This doesn't make any sense. What are you saying exactly? I get the impression you're just trying to sound 'smart' but don't know what you're talking about, or what those words mean.
>The government is to blame for total war, the people have no beliefs or values except to obey scientists at all times
At no time do the citizens blame the government for 'total war'. Again, the backdrop was WWII, but they don't make any commentary on that. As for "obey
>the people have no beliefs or values
Their beliefs and values are trust and faith in eachother, and the movie is very clear about that when they band together to kill Godzilla.
>except to obey scientists at all times
They accept a theory that could work to kill Godzilla when it's demonstrated, far from the 'Science is our religion' rhetoric you see in other modern films.
the only schizo is you. You're either baiting, or generally moronic/schizophrenic. Most of your reply is nonsense.
>Revisionist history for the kpop generation of japanese. They spoke like in anime. It was obnoxious.
watch an akira kurosawa movie from like the 50s. this type of overracting is just how theyve done drama for ages. in fact the neighbor character couldve literally been a background character in a kurosawa movie
Shin really did a number on this franchise, didn't it? Now every film from the Japanese side is going to be some Oscar-bait slop.
Westerners are the only ones that understand Big G is meant to be dumb fun. A spectacle first and foremost.
nice bait, that looks like absolute dogshit
Shin and Minus One are both absolute trash, but calling them Oscar bait is laughable. They are nowhere near being Oscar worthy in any category. The acting, writing, CG, etc in Minus One are truly poor. 3-4/10 film at absolute best.
>ad contrarian
you aren't clever
>Shin and Minus One are both absolute trash
Bro just throwing the whole fishing pole in
He's in the other thread too, gets tiring fast. Well, I guess that's the point.
The japanese do have their own Fisher-Price Oscars which shin won something at
>Fisher-Price Oscars
Fricking kek
Though honestly the awards really are what the Oscar's should (and actually used to) be like. Just a room full of the local talent gathered to recognize that year's achievements and have a nice dinner.
as if Oscars haven't lost their credibility years ago
They really are bad. Down at the absolute bottom of the franchise alongside Final Wars and the anime trilogy.
to be fair, you're not as smart as you'd like to imagine
To be fair, I'm a lot smarter than anyone else itt and you're just a moronic troony. Cope and seethe, Minus One is objective garbage.
>exactly (EXACTLY) one minute apart
What is this dude's fricking deal
Frick off back to Cinemaphile and cry about Sony raping your ass, (you)-starved validation-craving homosexual.
/thread
This poster is spiritually identical to the dogfricker and I'm grateful I'm not plagued with this kind of soullessness and moronation.
You sound like a seething troony
It's okay capeshitter, you can go back to your Marvel hugbox and continue to convince yourself that The Marvels is the best movie of 2023
>Shin
>trash
Filtered hard
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
not enough brave and bold african gay buttsex for you?
As much as I don't want to see Toho get stuck in a loop of releasing solo Godzilla movies that are just "ra-ra Japan," this Marvel slop isn't the solution.
JFC can they hire a script writer and not their fricking half Black person xir nieces?
Talk about being all over the place, a shit storm of bad ideas thrown at the wall but not would stick so the mix of soupy diarrhea is all that's left.
Plus the cool chase seen at the end makes the giant tall monsters look like little fricking kids.
WTF, stop, stop Hollywood.
>beyond the bomb, movie is largely about how much kamikazes, banzai charges, and abandoning the significance of life fricked up Japan
japanese, and asian societies in general are more about collectivism so this doesn't make sense to me. what is war but a sad manifestation of the ultimate form of collectivism: killing yourself for the good of your country. many cultures view this senseless action as profoundly honorable and good, the culture around heroism exists to justify leaders sending their people to die in order to further their political agendas.
and though we are moving towards drones and unmanned fighting vehicles, i have no doubt this will not in any way hurt the culture of heroism since it's how nations justify conscription and just murder
It’s not the point of the movie. It’s just the Brainlet take bc there is some superficial dialogue about how much it sucks but every act reinforces the necessity of sacrifice and how it effects your people.
It made her cry.
Not a Godzilla fan, I just bought the tickets when I was drunk and curious to see it (didn't even get the right theater). Glad I did, this is hands-down the best movie I've seen all year, and even longer than that. I've only seen like three Godzilla movies and I was still pogging like a homosexual whenever the march theme started playing.
yeah no this shit was awful. it's like a 6 overall as a film and a 1 as a godzilla film. it's not about godzilla, godzilla is a frickin plot device which u could replace with idk chinks getting revenge for nanjing or terroristic japs who want revenge on japan for surrending and it'd be the same movie. godzilla was added to suck audiences into seeing the same old muh "need revenge cuz i didn't shoot when i should've:(("
swear to god he must have less screentime than in 2014
i came to watch a godzilla movie and watched a lame frickin jap wartime movie
Like complaining you got a realist novel instead of genre fiction at the book store. Hit yourself in the head with a hammer over and over if you want hours of braindead entertainment.
this IS brainless entertainment. it said and did nothing new. there are a hundred other films just like it with the same character plot and growth. idk why ur so adamant on defending it when what i said is 100% true, u could've removed godzilla, replaced him with a generic goonie, and had the same film. i have a right to shit on it for being a godzilla film where he isn't necessary. it's like i wanted to read a book about the titanic and got a cookie-cutter novel family drama novel where the main character just happens to be helping construct titanic and that's the only relation. i came for the titanic, if it isn't necessary to the plot, what's the point?? he could've been working at a frickin prostitutehouse and it would've made no difference
here's a more accurate example:
i go to see a 9/11 movie and it's a film about people trapped in an elevator together without them even realizing they've been attacked and in the end they get out unscathed with the attacks only being shown once. could've been any trapped together film, but 9/11 was added in so people would fill seats because they know real tragedy has a draw
>this IS brainless entertainment
So sayeth the brainless viewer living in the age of the author's death.
>hurr durr i am above u because... umm modern society sucks!!
make a point
The pearls have already been cast before you by the film, what use where they for you? Be content with being a moron.
none of that was in the film. godzilla attacks, he doesn't suppress or occupy anything metaphorically. he doesn't drain japanese resources or military as he as in previous movies (actual times he represented such shit by devastating fishing industry like americans did with nukes). godzilla wasn't an unstoppable force they lost to on odo island. he COULD'VE been, but mr main character (already forgot call me a brainless gay idgaf) didn't take the shot and has to deal with the guilt from "i could've saved my platoon :((" which has been done countless times before and doesn't justify the use of godzilla when without godzilla, it's worked just fine. he doesn't even loom with the threat of uncertainty of destruction as the gang can track godzilla with ease. i don't know where u came up with all ur gay mush that was supposedly in the movie
the pearls as you've posted them were completely absent from my viewing good friend! my god what do u lack in life so hard that u have to make up for by talking like a pseudo-intellectual moron at all times. attempting and failing to be picrel so hard
If you neither the eyes to see nor ears to hear then it won't be there for you. Crush the pearl and move on.
The kamikaze pilot is the exemplor of the disposable Japanese man instrumentalised by the state towards national aims. His cowardice further becomes the social scapegoat for the war loss and suffering of Japan caused by that loss. In the movie he and the nation undergo a new test of character to recreate a civic society that does not instrumentalise the individual as means to national aims, but rather enables human life and flourishing. This is accomplished by voluntarism replacing conscription, civil society replacing the state, and the denial of external agents (the USA) to act as saviour, in the response to the monster's attack. The Shinto valourisation of death and self-disposal is replaced by a Christian humanist valourisation of life and rebirth through the final act where a suicide option is replaced by a salvic option. The invunerable monster is there is to expose Japan as defeated and weak, it can not be killed by conventional means because Japan has lost the war and the means to dominate through force, which is incidentally why American Godzilla films fail because America has already defeated their monsters by winning the war. Japan will be bombed, invaded, and occupied by the external world, the monster America, on terms that Japan as loser of WW2 can not dictate, for the first time in Japanese history the homeland is the plaything of the monsters that lurk beyond the shores that a new Japan must recreate itself from the failure of the old ways to survive.
If you didn't understand that, rewatch the film. Or better, cultivate yourself in literature and literary criticism first.
This proof the movie is definitely built around fulfilling your duty. The pilot failed his duty and is criticized for it, and while the audience is asked to empathize with him, he isn’t unchanged and corrects everyone else like progressive story telling.
He changes, it’s his actions that finally change, and the point is even stronger that he isn’t ordered to in the end but volunteers. He has evolved and grown not demanded he was right, his society is wrong and it must change around me.
I’m with the other 2, right wing.
He literally occupies Tokyo and claims it as his territory. He destroyed the only military the Japanese had to the point they were hauling from the scrapyard.
>blah blah blah
>homosexual.png
Without man nature is barren, the human subject and the national-historic question's are far more interesting than genre fiction lore building and other D&D rulebook trivia concerns. Godzilla is given enough particularity, his role is to be the monster of war and occupation, to particualrise the shattering of the homeland peace and termination of the ascendant rise of Nippon caused by the loss of WW2 in one monsterous titanic figure, that he serves well.
>This the type of homie that söyfaced, clapped and sharted himself at Godzilla and Kong running together
KWAB
>my wife Minami Hamabe
Idk how I missed that this came to US theaters all the way back in May. I must've been busy.
>>Shin Kamen Rider
Liked Shin ultrachad, did not like Shin Goji.
This one is based or cringe?
>Shin Kamen Rider
It's way more of a fan wank than the other Shin movies. If you're a die hard KR fan then of course watch it. If you aren't then just skip it there's nothing really compelling about it.
>filthy normalgays are going to ogle at my wife because of this movie
she's my wife and that's final
>americans are so starved of action films that baseline competence is treated like the second coming of christ
SAD
>treated like the second coming of christ
>SAD
Only weebs give a single frick about the Jap shit.
It'll make less than The Marvels, and 1/5th of Kong/Zilla sloppa.
kek if you really think this
no lol it's about the individual's choosing of life over "honorable death"
stop this english literature tier analysis, because it sucks ass
is it sus? fr fr? on god? deadass? no cap?
The family further illustrates the new civic Japan that will rebuild itself from the defeat of the old and the occupation by the Americazilla monsters. The family is not directed by the State, it is not directed by kinship, it is not even directed by romance. The woman takes in the strangers child from spontanous civic duty of citizen to citizen, the man takes in the woman and child from spontaneous civic duty of citizen to citizen, the neighbour plays grandmother to the family from spontaneous civic duty of citizen to citizen. A new civic oriented Japan will replace a state imperial directed Japan.
Japan will love thy neighbour as thyself, and learn to love their own self as the basis of loving thy neighbour. Christ will replace the Shinto and Pure Land imperial death cults.
Why is this being shilled so hard
Because it tells the true story of the birth of the most glorious nation on Earth, Nippon.
A. It's Godzilla
B. It's new
stupid
This. Nobody cares. Imagine taking a girl to try to see this lmao. "What do you want to do tonight anon?" Minus one is right.
Girls love found family movies with handsome actors.
This is not found family. Windows and orphans forming traditional homes are not gay trans weirdos getting together with wine aunts for holidays bc none of them talk to their real family out of spite.
Western “found” family involves rejection of an existing family and superficial friendship without actually living together and sharing finances.
>trying to impress a girl
Not gonna make it.
i took my girlfriend and she loved it, what are you being a homosexual about?
>everything I don't like is shilling
have a nice day
>survivors guilt
>post-wartime PTSD
This is the wrong way to understand it. He is the personification of Japan's dishonour, shame, and humiliation at losing the war and being occupied, not a private soldier's therapy for trauma. It's ignominy that he and Japan must overcome, through the revaluation of the honour of life over death.
All this hype is sus. Nobody my age 19 knows or cares about this shit and we all like anime. Same shit every time. Destroys cities. I watched that first one from 2013. Nothing good about it. I don't like movies about animals that can't talk. It's like watching a fake nature show made by chuddies. Something weird going on when there's two of these movies coming out. Thirsty for hype lol.
No eng dub, no watch. I don't care for the sound of anime voices. Simple.
Imagine missing out on absolute kino because you're too moronic to watch a movie with subtitles.
when is the torrent coming out realistically? next month?
No it's usually more like 6-12 months going by how long it took for the "shin" movies.
goddamn it
ive been craving for some kino for months, hopefully itll take less than that
Historically the Japanese don't give a shit about making access to their media easier for gaijin. Being a Godzilla gay before say 2010 was suffering because you couldn't even watch every Godzilla movie subbed/dubbed if you could find a copy of said movie to watch at all. Back in the 80s/90s underground bootleg anime on VHS was an actual thing.
I can't imagine the struggle that must have been. I heard of people saying how tough it was to find stuff.
I grew up right when Ghibli was being pushed by Disney. DVDs were still new and expensive, so we went for VHS as a kid. Kiki's Delivery Service was just another animated movie like Beauty and the Beast to me. Also my first JP Godzilla movie I watched was from finding Godzilla 2000 on DVD at Walmart in the bargin bin. I was like 'oh man this looks cool, I didn't know there was a new Godzilla movie!'. Then I went online and read up about more movies. I felt like I missed the bus seeing 'Final Wars' being the last Godzilla movie. I wanted to watch it, but it was only in Japan so I figured I'd just continue enjoying Godzilla through the Pipeworks Trilogy video games. Ah, good times.
a movie ticket costs 8$ in most places, what the frick?
JUST GO TO THE CINEMA
I'd have to make a ten hour round trip to see this. I'll just wait.
>the sheer amount of mental illness in this thread
Super right wing and ultra nationalist too, but it’s really good so Reddit has to act like it wasn’t a total rejection of their values
>Super right wing and ultra nationalist too
It was literally the opposite, moronic american
Yeah when the all homogenous group of straight males went to their death to try and protect their people with engineering and sense of duty people will think antifa and Marxist values.
Like I said, liberals are fricking moronic.
Their country is just a pile of rubble, no infrastructure, no food, camping out in dead husks, but they are still a people, still have a national identity. When they stood their ground and tried to rebuild life on their land among their people totally screamed refugees and just moving on for someone else to solve their problems.
I especially like when the neighbors, fellow workers, and veterans band together. Totally reminded me of anti-work, child murder, and drag queens.
Or when they got the job done themselves instead of demanding the haves (Americans) do it for them. So welfare and entitlement state.
Frick the govt we will do it ourselves gets me in the champagne socialist heart every time!
But but he had an ejection seat and lived, see war is stupid. Fricking idiot.
>Godzilla Minus one is “fulfill your duty” the movie
Definitely a leftist thing.
Frick,
got systematically taken out.
Based.
This extremely conclusive and I notice non of the Reddit gays have tried engaging with it
Just because a movie is not woke does not mean it's not a piece of shit.
See: lady ballers
Absolute moron take. Go back to commenting on youtube or whatever it is idiots like you do
I’m sorry I was told left wing movies required gay bipocs and race and gender swaps. Do we not need those now?
I also missed the part in minus 1 where the Mary Sue shows up every other character, refuses to change, and the world changes around her to become better.
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST PORTRAY TRADITIONAL MALE-FEMALE ROLES!!
>THE MALE HAS TO BE A COWARD AND THE WOMAN HAS TO BE LE STRONG GIRL BOSS!!!!!
Does anyone have any pics on what Godzillasaurus looks like? Can’t see the movie since there’s no local airings
Jesus christ the hollywood snoys are in full force today after being assblasted by a foreign film
It’s crazy how they all have to claim the homogenous straight male hero movie with no race or gender swaps from a culture they hate for being right wing and anti-diversity is progressive bc it’s good and they promote right wing can’t make art.
It seems like there are people who are afraid of this movie's success.
>It seems like there are people who are afraid of this movie's success.
Literally everyone in israelitelywood is farding and shidding in their pants rn. Based nippon dabbing on israelites.
>it's the right wings fault the movies failed!!
>when the same people say right wingers are a minority
They need to accept that NO ONE wants to see the same pushed slop time after time, You can make good gay shit if you tried but thats the thing disney panders and plays is too safe so it just feels like they copy paste so damn much.
Do I have to watch Shin before watching Minus Ones, Gojibros?
NO.
Both are standalone films. Watch them in any order you desire. Funny to think these films feel like polar opposites of one another.
You should watch Shin though because its kino thanks to the influences of Hideaki Anno. The way he portrays people in a bureaucracy is a delight to watch.
Don't bother with either. They both suck and are basically two sides of the same coin.
Shin is pretentious garbage that at one point uses Decisive Battle from NGE... it's that repetetive and derived
That was cool though. Bum bum bum dadadum
it was cool but the whole movie felt straight out copied and did not live up to the mythos and grandeur of gojira
miyazaki would've been more truthful as his depictions of monstrosity are always sincere
Nta but I wish they made their own sounds/OST especially when they were making a really different style of Godzilla. It felt like fanboy pandering at times.
>grandeur of gojira
The sea of flams scene didn't do it for you? Huh. Name a better atomic breath scene, I'll wait. (Pre shin obvs)
it's the fact that they made quips the entire time lol
didn't really feel like there was an existential threat facing tokyo
Kayoco Anne Patterson was the perfect example of this Marvel-tier comedic relief/sex appeal garbage shoved into a story about a gigantic beast terrorizing a city
it's ironic that Anno at one point made fun of "waifupandering" and slice of life shit by making the characters behave overtly cutesy but then just decided that he actually wasn't better than that and a medicore writer so he just accepted that garbage completely
>Kayoco Anne Patterson
Forgot about her
Yeah, she was a bit of a drag. Still waiting.
the atomic breath scenes in godzilla minus one, Black person
the one in the american version where he shoots down a b2 bomber was sick too
every atomic breath scene looks cool...
>godzilla minus one, Black person
I did specify pre shin, Black person. Shin and -1 are the top of the top for atomic breath.
>Marvel-tier comedic relief/sex appeal garbage shoved into a story about a gigantic beast terrorizing a city
Toho always puts babes in their monster movies. That's part of the appeal. If it was Marvel, then she would have been completely covered up with no sex appeal at all and either acting like a man or a total ditz.
>If it was Marvel, then she would have been completely covered up with no sex appeal at all and either acting like a man or a total ditz.
We're talking about Marvel today not Marvel from a decade ago.
nice moving the goalpost
shin godzilla released in 2016, almost a decade ago, so what is your point?
The point is that you're mindbroken for associating sex appeal in movies with Marvel when that has been a thing since the silent era.
Nips will give you what you want. Satisfaction guaranteed.
I hate you motherfrickers with a passion
She's very hot, but her accent just kills it.
get laid holy frick
Not if she sounds weird mam.
Her cute Engrish was the best part. You guys are just homosexuals unironically.
>Nearly a panty shot
>Let's get closer
Lel
Ultraman? Saw an episode of the original show where the same thing happened and she's got what looks like the SSSP communicator thing on her jacket.
Yes, Shin Ultraman movie.
Thought so. How's the movie? Been meaning to check it out since I finished the original show. Also want to watch Ultraseven.
>Minus One lies somewhere in the middle.
Sounds good. I'm a fan of silly Godzilla but I can enjoy the more serious stuff too, the trailers for Minus One showed some Goji scenes that looked intense.
It's well worth watching. The only "shin" movie I'd tell anyone to pass on is the Kamen Rider one unless you're just a huge KR nerd who has to see everything it was pretty meh and the most fan wanky of the lot.
>the trailers for Minus One showed some Goji scenes that looked intense.
Black person you have no idea how good that shit really was. I hope the world holds itself together long enough for you to experience it.
The dorky science chick was more appealing.
I had the opposite opinion. Wannabe American chick felt more like a person than science girl, who felt like she was 100% just nerd bait.
But I think it's just the difference between a girl pandering to Japanese normies vs a girl pandering to Japanese nerds.
No not at all.
For me the overwrought drama of minus one is far more annoying than the tonal incongruencies in Shin.
And I've been watching live action Nipshit longer than you have. If anything I'm anesthetized to their overacting by exposure. It's still overwrought.
>amateur, completely
The production design of Shin is just objectively superior to Minus One in every way. There's no real students of the old guard involved in Minus One, the film looks like what it is, a film made by a guy who's whole career has been making modern era Japanese cgi.
I saw the ejection seat setup coming when Tachibana was walking Koichi through the operations and the flashback still made me cry like a baby. Make an earnest effort to own and resolve your transgressions and forgive those who show remorse in their actions. See the good in all those you encounter. Very heartwarming movie.
Im glad you liked it because I find this to be the laziest writing convention ever where they show there is actually 5 seconds of important plot information explained in a scene that the audience has already seen but the writers decided to cut and save for the final showdown for dramatic effect. Really brings me out of the movie
I genuinely thought the safety for the bomb was a trick. That it actually was an ejection pulley.
Like "ah, so obvious"
But no, they then just explain it anyways at the very end when it's obvious he got out.
Also frick whoever made the decision for the kid cry. Just let the little baby stay silent and try to process it all. It's sadder that way.
Still a nice movie.
Ahh that would have been way better if they had made the safety a trick for the ejection seat!
I thought it was fairly obvious with "oh, and one more thing" cutaway (not tryin to br insulting, just feel like that's a trope of some sort). Also I'm a historylet so maybe German plane seats in Japanese aircraft were common in WW2, but that also seemed like a dead giveaway that they were doing something different.
I'll admit it was unnecessary, I just really liked the humanization and forgiveness angle. It meant way more to me than the reunion at the end (which was very cute).
I'll be genuine and cringe over jaded any day.
Thats fair, im glad you liked it!
Thanks, do agree it could've been handled a bit better. Maybe just Koichi seein Tachibana smiling in the crowd at the port would've gotten the point across.
I think I got secondhand embarrassment reading this post.
I have not watched many Godzilla movies, but I also liked that the final battle was at sea.
>mfw I experience extreme sudden decompression
I loved the white eyes, they tortured his ass good
his design reminded me of those ancient chinese depictions of tigers and dragons
I can see it.
By it i mean the tigerdragons dick and balls
Wait how is he that far out of the water if he isn't standing on anything?
Buoyancy
Also they were holding his ass up with ropes.
Watch the movie
This happens in like half of all Godzilla movies, how are people still confused by this
The 70 year-old question.
magnets
he's got a massive tail Black person, he's swimming
Wtf is a tail Black person?
we loved this part.
>decompression causing bulging eyes
>but it also makes him look FRICKING PISSED
>he gets decompressed after getting squeezed
>immediately once he surfaces he starts powering up his heat beam
they really gave him personality compared to... whatever this is
The litteral bloodbath was sick.
Shin had the creepy factor. Really felt like a detached, otherworldy horror. I appreciate that they play with different themes and interpretations.
israelite rats and redditors melting down right now
>inb4 shill
Probably the best movie I've seen in 2023.
i dont get the stupid title or design of the poster. 1.0 is like a tech thing, its stupid
Everyone's gushing about godzilla, the story, and the vfx but I'm surprised nobody's talking about the sound and new OST.
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Pretty fricking scary. Godzilla vs King Kong's theme also gave me a surprise
The OST is superb.
I hated the movie but the music was bangin
I loved the movie, but honestly it makes me wish the millennium era didn't fail especially seeing the new Godzilla vs Jet Jaguar short. Imagine seeing pic related with today's practical effects.
>the millennium era didn't fail
Correct.
I'm talking about box office shit because afaik, Toho was actually losing money with the early 2000s Godzilla movies so they cut it short with Final Wars
Toho's business model doesn't need the movies to be profitable as much as it needs the movies to spike merch sales. Godzilla merch sales never drop to zero though even with a decade or more between films. I'm not saying they like to lose money on films just that it doesn't really hurt them like a company solely in business to make money off of films.
I'm just sad because the millennium era definitely felt like Toho was pushing the rubber-suit formula to its limits. Seeing the production behind the miniature sets is super interesting
I wish the Millenium era never stopped, I don't like these CG messes of movies, I love Minus One but Godzilla needs to be practical again!
Frick it's been a minute since I've seen Terror of Mechagodzilla
I'm putting that shit on tonight
One of my favorites. It has such a cool story with the humans and great action with the monsters.
I'm having trouble placing my favorites now after seeing Godzilla Minus One. I don't think it can top 1954 or Terror of MechaG, but I can't deny how much I loved that movie either.
>merch sales
Guilty. I'm irresponsible with my wallet when it comes to Godzilla merch. Most of my hobby spending money has been going towards overseas Godzilla stuff lately.
For me, it's 1974
1st mechaG had the better plot. 2nd mechaG had the better fights.
Titanosaurus a shit. Press S to spit.
Already seen it twice now, seeing it again on Tuesday
Have you guys seen this heterogeneous, non-woke, pro-family values, anti-abortion masterpiece? It doesnt have all the things that trigger me so its an instant classic in my book
Godzilla MInus One is actually a sequel to The Eternal Zero
>instead of kamikaze'ing the 'Muricans, Miyabe fricks off to Odo Island and starts callling himself koichi shikishima.
>all in order to make some other guy take care of his kid + them surviving kamikaze
>ends up having to fight a giant monster and take care of someone else's kid
>finds happiness anyways
>greets his grandson in 2004 in spirit-form flying a fricking ghost Zero
That's really why everyone is straight calling him a coward in both movies
I know this is just some asspull headcanon of yours and not at all true but the fact that Yamazaki directed both films and both have numerical titles (Zero and Minus One) and very similar themes (minus godzilla) make this fricking hilarious and would make both films 10x better if canon
It is canon. It's confirmed by the Yamazaki Takashi himself as part of his pacific war trilogy.
-1Gojira is canon to an autist trying to stop the yamato and a savior of a bunch of Special attack unit pilots. It's about the sanctity of life and anti-war.
>Koichi/Miyabe is fighting Godzilla, who has reduced him from 0 to - 1 as redemption for everything from being unable to cope with survivor's guilt and live in the future and as well as surprise attacking the Americans on Pearl Harbor
>his redemption leads to his ascension into Nirvana and he becomes out of a Minus state into ETERNAL ZERO as seen in the epilogue when he flies to his grandson in 2004
best film of the year, easily, and no one is talking about it
I really want to see what Yamazaki would do with Gamera like he said
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What happened to Bob? I only ever knew him because my old roommate used to watch him. Did he get too fat to show his face on his videos now?
All the tug boats show up to save the day just like my favorite starwars movie number 9.
Even more than that, there's three total "Sorry I'm late, Mr. President!" moments in the final battle
>main hero finally shows up in the jet
>tugboats show up to help after the Kid was told to stay behind
>hero shows up in the jet again when the Plan B doesn't work
It was, dare I say, a bit much.
Eh, none of them were egregious or completely out of left field. Also the movie earned enough goodwill from me that I didn't mind at all. I totally enjoyed the final showdown.
>main hero finally shows up in the jet
But he was already there. That was part of the plan from the beginning. What do you mean?
>tugboats show up to help after the Kid was told to stay behind
That was fine, the message that the captain gave him about leaving him for the future was the important part. Him coming anyways was satisfying so he could participate in the victory somehow.
>hero shows up in the jet again when the Plan B doesn't work
He was already there. He had seconds to react because no one knew if Godzilla was dead or not. Even if the people on the boats didn't think he'd kamikaze into Godzilla, he was ready and waiting to get Godzilla so he for sure dies this time.
Holy shit, the defenders come out. I actually like the movie, I just thought those moments were kind of cliche and cheesy.
>But he was already there. That was part of the plan from the beginning. What do you mean?
There was a moment like that. I think after Godzilla blows up the decoy ship. There's like a moment of silence and then brrr, his plane shows up.
No worries, I'm not questioning your enjoyment of the movie, just questioning what you meant by those criticisms. Sorry if I came off aggrsesive; the person you replied to was being passively aggressive.
I guess its just that in the movie Plan A was to attract Godzilla with the boat, and Plan B was to attract him with the plane I thought. The secret Plan C was to also use the plane to kill Godzilla. I don't think there was any doubt that he wouldn't have shown up in the plane though since he was so determined to be involved in it. There seemed to be doubt if he'd try to kill Godzilla with the plane though.
I did have a problem with him running into Noriko in Ginza. I think it would have been hard to find her in the crowd and especially with how big Ginza is. She was on the train, which got eaten, but how could he have known if the train arrived or not during the chaos? Either way that happens in almost any giant monster or disaster movie so I'm willing to handwave that a bit.
Takashi Yamazaki(-1 director) said star wars was the film he saw that made him decide to be a director.
They were earned, and remember that the start of the operation was Godzilla throwing the scout naval boat into a port building.
I think what bothered me the most was how fast they went on to the next scene. It was predictable, but man at least show them putting the ropes onto the boats. Same with how Koichi just magically finds Noriko in Ginza.
I figured he just followed the crowd running and screaming in one direction.
It's mostly just a nitpick so it doesn't bother me that much. Something that small doesn't ruin an entire movie.
>Magically finds Noriko in Ginza
He was following the crowd also Noriko fell right in his path, almost
Or did you mean the hospital scene? To which I reply
YOU STUPID FRICKING Black person THERE WAS A TELEGRAM SENT
I'm talking about the crowd scene, but to be fair Koichi knew she was working in Ginza. I think it might have flowed better if they briefly showed Koichi rushing out of the house when he and Akiko were listening to the radio.
came for the god, stayed for the zilla
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Where a smoove homie like me can stream this my homiez? you aint eva seen a homie like me
Every dumb homie too dumb to find it without a spoonfeed. Yo mamma's fat titty be dry.
frick you homie yo mama got a glass leg full of koolaid b***h homie
Kool-Aid Man took that b***h Kool-Aid back, black.
Why did Noriko push him instead of tackle? She could have made it into the alley too. Silly woman.
She'd rather die than keep waiting for her beta man to ask her to marry him.
Because she knew she was an immortal Godzilla woman and wanted to galvanize Shikishima into killing Godzilla in her honor and then when she knew Japan was safe she'd see him again. Frickin' women, am I right?
In the sequel, is she going to give birth to minilla? I think so
Which past Godzilla films are worth watching? I've always just written them off as B-movie monster shlock
Oh buddy youre in for a treat.
Mothra vs Godzilla (1964)
Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla (2002)
Godzilla Tokyo SOS (2003)
GMK (2001)
Invasion of Astro Monster (1965)
start with those then move to the heisei era
>I've always just written them off as B-movie monster shlock
Gonna be honest, the majority of the films are like that. It's over-the-top scifi with interesting practical effects. It doesn't make them bad, but Minus One is an outlier like 1954 and Shin
Some are better than others, but the original from 1954 is a masterpiece. The schlocky ones are great too. Really there are probably only four or five live action Godzilla movies out of 30+ that are legitimately hard to watch.
Godzilla 1954 and/or King of the Monsters
Mothra vs. Godzilla 1964/Ghidrah the Three-Headed Monster/Monster Zero (an unofficial trilogy)
Godzilla vs. Biollante
GMK
What
said. You can't really go wrong with most of them. 1954 is a must-see at the very least. From the ones I've seen, All Monsters Attack (1969) is the only one I'd say is not worth watching (unless you've seen a lot of Godzilla movies already and want to check out an especially goofy one). Hedorah is also a strange outlier movie. It's not bad at all (in fact I really like it), just very different from the rest.
against mechagodzilla and tokyo sos are both masterpieces
this is great, more people need to watch these movies all from the three eras, they all have worth and have something for everyone, this reminds me of the old days on the internet godzilla forums.
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the only downside to this movie is that no godzilla or kaiju movie will probably ever top it
it's on par with Jaws in term of legendary status
what stuck to me the most was the stare of godzilla
his eyes faced to the front and were bulbous rather than reptillian, giving him a very intense look
i really hated shin. it was basically a comedy with shitty government criticisms. a child couldve made a deeper film. its amateur, completely.
minus one was good. it had depth, feeling. it criticized the government too but not by being a cringe comedy. minus one is shin done right
I did appreciate how aware Shin was at how ridiculous Godzilla and dealing with Godzilla would actually be.
was it a self aware, slow burn, bone chilling, genre redefining, post ironic gemmy
Not particularly, but when the one Cabinet dude was all frustrated when Godzilla Black showed up right where he came out the first time and was all "Why does it keep coming back HERE?" I lol'd, because it's a level of awareness no other Godzilla film bothers to mention unless they identify a specific reason (like in 1985), though the audience often does and it stands as sort of a trope that Godzilla will always trash Tokyo but no one knows why he keeps doing so.
i didnt. it was TOO silly and in an unfun way too. obnoxious silly, because the point was bureaucracy is frustrating. minus one takes itself seriously and the point comes across more strongly.
if shin was serious, the message wouldve been so much stronger. instead of being obnoxiously silly, it wouldve been frustratingly tense, and thats the right thing to feel when the message is "our government is slow and ineffective when handling disasters".
it also pissed me off that he just took the entire staff from his attack on titan movie to make shin. it made it feel that much more cheap and lazy, like he forgot he was scheduled to make shin and just kept the crew together and quickly wrote the script on the toilet
AoT is trash, and you should be ashamed to watched such dreck.
>AoT is trash
thats my point. he got done making slop, realized he had to make godzilla, and used the slop crew
The whole way they hand waived away the Occupation government in minus one is fricking moronic and at odds with the point they want to make about both Japan and the US.
I don't really care at all if there needs to be a hand waive to keep America out when its not really related to what the film's about but that's really not the case here.
Shin Godzilla where America is both an ally and a looming threat in the course of the narrative was a lot better.
I just miss the older days of the internet (pre-2018) where people are more sincere and it's easier to have no-BS discussions. Nowadays, everyone is operating on multiple levels of irony combined with the fact that shitposting is easy and there's little risk
>Avatar 2
>Mission impossible
>Cocaine bear
>John wick 4
>Du
Bruh you cappin? i posted a pic of my face right now
FRICK, i was tryna give you a (you) my guy
Thank you for your service, have one back. No cap frfr. But John wick was kind-of a joint actually let's just pretend I didn't include that one hehe
Hope I enjoy this, trying to ignore the hype because you guys did the same with Shin Godzilla and it ended up being kinda mediocre.
Even though it's CGI (gay) I still liked the Goji scenes I saw in the trailer.
what made you dislike Shin?
Poor pacing, especially in the second half. It's ok to make a human-focused Godzilla but I didn't feel that Shin did it in a very entertaining or interesting way. Also I'm not a fan of CGI and the CG in parts was noticeable and bad.
I've heard that the human stuff is a lot better in Minus One and that it actually has memorable characters, so I hope that's the case.
>zara-o doko?
I want an edit of the film without her. Would raise it a whole star. Can she even speak English or was she just reading phonetics/katakana?
Give Minus One a try since it seems like you're still okay with human-focused G films. People are comparing this to Shin but both films are very different. You might like it, but if you don't that's okay.
I'm definitely going to watch it, hopefully I like it. It looks promising but I'm always cautious nowadays about new movies.
It's a run-of-the-mill blockbuster movie (not that's a bad thing). It's not cerebral or eccentric like 1954 or Shin, but it's not goofy or over-the-top like the Showa or Monsterverse movies. Minus One lies somewhere in the middle.
>It's a run-of-the-mill blockbuster movie
from the 1980s. So men are competent, women are helpful and community and family are of supreme importance. Hollywood eternally BTFO.
Exactly, it has a nice balance between action and interesting characters. You can still make good movies with a simple and straightforward plot.
I really think the film could have benefitted from being even more run of the mill.
Yeah, Minus One had a great cast. I liked everyone personally. The cast in Shin I saw as more of a collective than individuals so I didn't care that much if one of them died (even though really no one did except the prime minister).
The CG is much better in Minus One imo. Still not perfect or on part with Avatar or whatever, but pretty good imo. Shin's CG took me out of the movie once or twice, which is one of my main criticisms with it. I didn't feel that way with Minus One except maybe one or two scenes and it was more like 'the lighting looks a little off' not 'this looks like you imported a model of a truck off the internet'.
You're going to hate the first two acts of Minus One but like the last act.
It's really the inverse of Shin where the landfall and initial chaos of Godzilla's arrival in that film is where it's at its strongest and then it tapers off and goes out like a wet fart. There's hardly any of that in Minus One just an extended reference to '54 halfway through the movie that culminates in their one original idea which is their version of the atomic breath.
But it does lay a lot of human drama groundwork for the final act to work.
Anyone who hates Shin is a braindead Black person.
A reddit braindead Black person.
If you hate Minus One, you're just a unfun homosexual.
Both deserve to get killed in a car accident for having such shitty tastes.
Don't reply to me with an argument. We all know I'm right.
I don't hate Shin but I didn't love it either. Felt like all the budget went to the first half of the movie and then the second half was just people talking with no Godzilla. I'd give it a 6/10 for the good first half.
The original Godzilla is a 10/10 in comparison.
your brain has to be lizard sized to like shin
I agree with you. I have only nitpicks for both.
you are right
This movie single handedly afflicted me with yellow fever I never had before