How are benzos legal? Well they stop seizures, slow down people with terrible anxiety.
Shouldn't you rather question why are people moronic and abuse drugs for what they are not for?
Oh bullshit don't pretend just typing fentanyl is enough to kill y-
You gays are fricking moronic. What the frick would we use to intubate people with imminent risk of death if it were not for fentanyl? Fentanyl saves lives, it's frickers like George flo
Why the frick do you need 20mg a day? Like any benzo, it has a purpose. Those with anxiety and panic attacks. But no legit doctor going to give you a daily supply. Like pain killers, good luck getting those now after over prescriptions and lawsuits. Always junkies ruin shit for people need it
France and Japan overprescribe them but what’s all this shitting on benzodiazepines
alcohol is much worse and there’s no pearl clutching about it it destroys your nervous system cardiac system and organs plus domestic violence and automobile crashes yet it’s not even scheduled
If you take a couple klonopin a week it’s not going to be an issue of course it’s addictive with some people but nobody is dying from them unless combined with an opioid and it’s safer than drinking
Meh. >Pharma companies give huge bonuses for SSRIs because they're XXX$/mo. per patient and they're very hard to quit once you start taking them >Basically every person that visits a psychologist by their own accord can qualify for depression treatment according to DSM >No abuse potential
It's the perfect storm for overprescription. Even if they're rarely useful, change your brain chemistry permanently and have a metric frickton of side effects.
Benzos, like opioids, are pretty fricking awesome in acute settings with appropriate clinical need. They're legal and have clinical purpose. Just because drugs get abused on the streets doesn't mean they're inherently bad, hell Ketamine is the brand new thing when it comes to treatment resistant depression.
The problem is folks started getting hooked and we had increased, borderline rampant use of them in outpatient settings especially by suburban moms with nothing else to do. Patients started becoming drug addicts in a socially accepted manner. It's easier to take a pill for anxiety that's effectively equivalent to taking a few shots of vodka than fiddling around with SSRIs/SNRIs and waiting on therapy to kick in. So they get prescribed and people get hooked. Anxiety, insomnia, hell even GI upset can be treated with benzos and they work well. Now we know they aren't great in the long term and the new school of physicians are less likely to prescribe them unless in the inpatient setting.
Xanax isn't great though, half life is too short, hence why it's the one we see so abused.
Genetics for depression and mental illness is definitely real. I do wonder if they all had some sort of shared trauma in the family.
It’s not over prescribed now. People that getting it from the blackmarket because like pain killers doctors scared of giving it out. If they do, maybe 2-3 tops. My wife is a nurse. They don’t give that shit out easily
Older physicians tend to be a bit more loose, psychiatrists still give them out like candy...but your average primary doctor isn't giving them out as much anymore.
i had heard that around 2006 or so, medical associations and doctors groups recommended "treating pain", that is, actively asking patients during check ups "do you have any pain anywhere" and then prescribing an opiate or pain killer for it. What american over 35 doesn't have some kind of back pain, knee pain or shoulder pain? Of course, this is only anecdotal, but I believe this was how a large amount of opioids were prescribed initially, leading to the problems we have now.
yes, we used to look for ways to make all the pain go away, specially in oncology patients
now the recommendation is just lowering it to a EVA 2-4/10 (does it hurt enought to disturb your normal life?)
>the properly prescribed dosage can help people
studies have shown it gives users increased anxiety overall even when used as prescribed
benzos are fricking gay only used by gays and women who think having a bad fee fee once means they need to pop drugs
anxiety isnt even fricking real, it can be fixed by just breathing slowly
tell that to the middle aged woman with a dead son and husband that goes from craying to laughting in 3 seconds 5 times during the consult and the only motive she asked for a doctor is that she no longer sleeps
I'm sober now (2.5 years) and totally fine. Your body can recover from a lot of damage if you just stop obliterating it, like it's comically forgiving for a LONG time before it absolutely isn't.
It's still really nice popping an Ativan and like minutes later, the shakes go away and you feel like a normal person again. Problem is once you're feeling normal again, addict brain goes "Well then it's time to drink again, obviously" because learning lessons isn't fun.
the damage is probably alredy done, good luck with your early dementia, old age is going to be a b***h to you
>the damage is probably alredy done
Yeah I trust you, doctor who can't spell simple words. Maybe I'm already dead!
>old age is going to be a b***h to you
Old age is a b***h if you let it be. I'm young and yet already make excellent life choices thanks to discipline most people never come close to finding, I'm aging far better than anyone else I know. Someone today at work guessed I was 7 years younger than I am and he was the third person there to do so. Yes, I used to live like shit, but I pulled myself out of a rut many never do. I'm pretty happy about it.
I'm sorry, you don't seem to be as knowledgeable as you believe yourself to be. Hope you learn a bit about "honesty" just as I did, maybe you can turn things around, too.
If you're depressed it just means you're a loser and couldn't compete with real men. If you take drugs for it you're not only a loser, but also a junkie, just an hero.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoloft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prozac
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexipro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ativan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adderall
What the frick? Are yanks really this medicated all the time? How are there still so many passion crimes with so many sedatives going around?
>How are there still so many passion crimes with so many sedatives going around?
Benzos like Xanax and Ativan can make you massively behaviorally uninhibited, and unlike alcohol, you’re not likely to feel any different while it’s happening. There’s no warm sensation or buzz to warn you how intoxicated you are. In fact, many people get extremely angry on Benzos.
>and unlike alcohol, you’re not likely to feel any different while it’s happening
Because alcohol fricks you up and you are unaware you're fricked up. Whereas with Xanax you are still in complete control of your faculties, but untroubled.
Drunks are a pathetic nuisance to anyone except other drunks.
>Because alcohol fricks you up and you are unaware you're fricked up
Make up your mind, Anonymous
When I was on antidepressants they did literally nothing except make me sick as a fricking dog if I accidentally missed or was slightly late with a dose. Biggest scam in the world.
Americans are superficial queers who will take meds until they're fat as shit and green at the gills, suffering from vertigo all day, and because this allows them to careermax and feel entirely shameless, they think this is a sustainable way to live.
I know multiple people exactly like this.
One of the most interesting things I've learned about how America is different than the rest of the world is by watching sports livestreams (superbowl etc)
Almost every commercial is for a truck, a potato chip or a prescription drug. They're not allowed to advertise prescription drugs anywhere else except Brazil I believe.
American's don't think about it twice. The Vanguard "Oxycontin Express" documentary was really the first glimpse for me into "Pill Mills" and just how rampant this shit is. Talking with coworkers, family...Something like 1/3 of Americans are taking a prescription medication
This. The "ban drugs" people are asking the wrong questions and barking up the wrong trees.
The problem isn't the substances themselves; it's the attitudes and culture surrounding them. That aspect is royally fricked.
I am very pro drug when they're used responsibly, but getting kids unwittingly hooked on benzos and amphetamines is pure fricking evil.
Americans are superficial queers who will take meds until they're fat as shit and green at the gills, suffering from vertigo all day, and because this allows them to careermax and feel entirely shameless, they think this is a sustainable way to live.
I know multiple people exactly like this.
One of the most interesting things I've learned about how America is different than the rest of the world is by watching sports livestreams (superbowl etc)
Almost every commercial is for a truck, a potato chip or a prescription drug. They're not allowed to advertise prescription drugs anywhere else except Brazil I believe.
American's don't think about it twice. The Vanguard "Oxycontin Express" documentary was really the first glimpse for me into "Pill Mills" and just how rampant this shit is. Talking with coworkers, family...Something like 1/3 of Americans are taking a prescription medication
You can never quite tell if pill-heads are gonna go off or not. I hate being around people with fricked up brains like that... we really need to bring back mental institutions and get these freaks out of society.
I did it once at my fast food job and it was like I blinked my eyes and woke up in bed the next day. The security camera footage showed me attempting to work like a zombie while my co workers pretended it was normal.
I took a bunch on a Sunday night, blacked out Monday completely (went to work, and went about my daily business like nothing was wrong), woke up Tuesday morning extremely confused. that was the last time I ever took xanax. the high wasn't even good either, it was like a shitty drunk feeling.
>drugs can give different responses based on doses >people abusing a drug means it should be banned when the properly prescribed dosage can help people
Yeah I know its over prescribed and way too easy to abuse, but one of the arguments for the legalization of psychedelics is that low dosages can help with mental disorders despite high doeses causing you to trip.
It’s not over prescribed now. People that getting it from the blackmarket because like pain killers doctors scared of giving it out. If they do, maybe 2-3 tops. My wife is a nurse. They don’t give that shit out easily
>the properly prescribed dosage can help people
studies have shown it gives users increased anxiety overall even when used as prescribed
benzos are fricking gay only used by gays and women who think having a bad fee fee once means they need to pop drugs
anxiety isnt even fricking real, it can be fixed by just breathing slowly
no I'm not a genetically subhuman homosexual like you. Stop making excuses for your drug addiction you pill popping Black person
7 months ago
Anonymous
Lol I don’t take drugs. If you had a panic attack, which you likely will sometime in the future, you’d understand you’re saying something embarrassingly foolish.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Not that guy but I used to think like you until I had my only panic attack. No I don't use any drugs legal or not. It's real.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Problem is its a israelite pill and it’s too good and kills you if you’re hooked and quit cold turkey. Also morons can’t not take them irresponsibly
howd you see the security footage? I used to black out on it and one time I literally got a DUI even though I drove all the way home fine
Case in point
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not arguing for Xanax. I'm only explaining what I know. I loathe the way pills are used in modern America.
7 months ago
Anonymous
You're not American esl.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Do you think not believing in panic attacks played a role in that?
I have never had a panic attack, but the other day after a night of bingeing on ketamine and alcohol I woke up with a big hangover and very high heartbeat. After an hour or two I started to feel like I was having a heart attack. My first instinct was to call an ambulance but I said to myself >okay anon, this must be a panic attack, just close your eyes and try to breath deeply, you can fix this
I took a bag that was close and I breathed inside it very deeply and after a minute of feeling like I was going crazy it subsided. I think if I didn't know about panic attacks or believe in them I would have ended in an hospital and I was able to avoid it thanks to my reaction. Maybe I'm wrong.
7 months ago
Anonymous
based emotional control anon, are you perhaps philosophically inclined?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Do you think not believing in panic attacks played a role in that?
I'm not positive. I normally have great control of my mind so I never thought I'd fall victim. I'm honestly not positive it was that, but I'm not sure what else it could have been.
I'll explain my symptoms and you can tell me what it was. Or anyone else knowledgeable can. Or not, that's ok too
>uncontrollable shaking, tears, snot >higher body temp, sweating >couldn't speak straight >momentary blackout >everything slowly returned to normal and symptoms faded
I was consciously trying to calm myself down and understand the situation but I was unable to do it with any quickness.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I wonder if this moron is underaged, or if he genuinely thinks he's an Internet tough guy.
>This. Mindfulness fricks can eat a dick. When feel like you’re having a full on heart attack le mindfulness breathing
you a literal NPC programmed to be a pussy. I could probably spit in your face and slap you and you'd fall into a fetal position clutching your chest and searching your pocket for a xanny pill
> studies have shown it gives users increased anxiety overall even when used as prescribed
Absolute bullshit. Show me this study! Benzos are most effective drug for anxiety because mimicked GABA. Like alcohol but without shitty side effects of being a drunk driver the post hangxiety
Did you even read stupid study you posted. It’s for long term use. Benzos are not meant for long term use. Only short term relief for anxiety and panic attacks. Antidepressants are prescribed for long term use but that’s entirely different matter. They’ve proven to barely above a placebo. But same not true for benzos.
Every single argument I've seen towards legalization of psychedelics states their possible use in treatment of mental disorders. Please enlighten me on the true argument for their legal use.
It is immoral to prohibit others from ingesting substances into their own body. If it essentially trying to control another person's body.
Our bodies are our own and no one else's. Or they are not. In authoritarian regimes they are not. In free societies, they are.
Having control of your body means being able to choose what to put inside it, and what to do with it.
in abortion there are always two human beings, the mother and the baby, and so i am totally opposed to abortion personally, because i think killing babies is evil. however i think it's properly a state's rights issue and so i expect there to be states that allow it and others that don't. unless americans discover philosophy, thats the best solution for an ignorant populace.
tl;dr abortion is murder but a federal ban would be a mistake
look i just want to get high
This is the libertarian argument to legalize all drugs not the argument brought before state politicians to legalize psychedelics specifically over all drugs.
>Please enlighten me on the true argument for their legal use.
You're a dumbass with an inflated sense of his own importance play acting as an authority who needs convincing.
You have no argument so you resort to name calling.
I'm not name calling; I'm telling you you have no authority and the onus is on you to convince others that they should give up their autonomy.
7 months ago
Anonymous
If its currently illegal, the people who want it legal need to form an argument for why it should be legal. If the law does nothing and nobody else does anything it's still illegal.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Then the first thing I'd say is that the perception that it being illegal as the default state is misleading and in reality the onus lies on the people who wish to keep it illegal. The system is fundamentally broken since laws don't expire. They should expire and they should be renegotiated every few decades.
The arguments in favor of drugs as benign and even medicinally valuable as psychedelics are based on inertia and NPC system faith - faith in bunk scare propaganda from 80 years ago. Luckily this attitude has actually shifted in recent years, however we;'re back to the fundamental problem of systemic inertia; the laws don't actually reflect the will of the people currently nor are they morally or even scientifically sound.
7 months ago
Anonymous
How do you feel about drugs like heroin and fentanyl? Don’t you feel those should be illegal?
7 months ago
Anonymous
No. The problem there is again a perception issue where people think that just because something is legal that means it's good, condoned or even encouraged. It's legal to pick your nose in public, but if you do it you're a frickwit. A more 1:1 analogy is alcohol: legal, but if you're a drunken fool, you're a dickhead.
On a fundamental level our problems today largely stem from a departure from fundamentals and first principles; the paper shit is mistaken for reality and the state is God: arbiter of all things holy and unholy. The state is just a tool; if we look to it for our morality we will be blind.
I will say that there would be some consequences to legalizing harder drugs at this current moment since people have departed from these first principles for long enough that they've been forgotten and total drug legalization would be pissing on an oil fire; however, we shouldn't make the mistake of thinking of inanimate substances as inherently bad; we have just become idiots.
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'll elaborate slightly since I didn't explain something properly: The state is an unthinking machine that struggles with nuance and complexity, and has a universalist approach to application of rules. Either thing bad always or thing good always. The problem is: drugs are highly case dependent; the scientist or artist taking some amphetamines to get his work done, the couple taking mdma for a night of fun etc. are very different instances than the homeless drug addict smoking crack and robbing houses. >then just make crack illegal
It isn't the substance that is the issue; it's how you use it. The couple could substitute mdma for crack and have a good night, and the scientist/artist could do the same and still experience a similar boost. The associations we've created where some substances are bad and others are good actually have little basis in reality and are associative rather than prescriptive. I.E. meth is for poor drug addicts and adderall is for college kids; they're actually basically the same drug - amphetamine.
TL;DR The state is an inadequate tool to deal with the complexities of the issue and it's better left to individuals to take it on a case by case basis; i.e. parent your own kids and educate your damn self instead of deferring all responsibility to the state for every little thing.
7 months ago
Anonymous
To put it in other words: The "law" is just shit on a piece of paper. The onus is always on the proponent of the paper shit since they seek to alter the default state with their paper shit. If no one gives a frick about your paper: good luck enforcing it.
It is always the law's job to convince the public that their paper shit is just, not the other way around.
>Please enlighten me on the true argument for their legal use.
You're a dumbass with an inflated sense of his own importance play acting as an authority who needs convincing.
>https://www.cancer.gov/research/participate/clinical-trials/intervention/psilocybine
Basically mushrooms make terminally ill people accept the fact that they are dying and come to peace with it. Not sure about anything else though
Look up their studies on alcoholism. 2 psilocybin trips made 80% of the alcoholics drastically reduce their intake and 50% of the alcoholics quit drinking entirely
Curiously the percentages look similar for treating depression and PTSD. 20% of the test subjects are either too blackpilled to be helped or there's some genetic component in 20% of people that makes the psilocybin not work as it should
It’s not over prescribed now. People that getting it from the blackmarket because like pain killers doctors scared of giving it out. If they do, maybe 2-3 tops. My wife is a nurse. They don’t give that shit out easily
100,000+ people have died from abusing prescription drugs over the last 10 years.
Now that doctors are less likely to give them out, druggies are resorting to street dealers and dying from fent instead
Why do people keep getting great drugs banned? If I’m working and contributing to this shit shitfest, I should be able to put whatever I want in my fricking body. The weird thing is it went from republics to democrats. I fricking hate this system of control.
>xanax >great drug
pretty shit tier drug my guy, once you've tried a few.
me and my friends would take them and usually just fall asleep or some boring shit
Taking things on a case by case basis is too difficult and inefficient so now we all have to suffer because a few people can't handle their shit and people are lazy in rule application as it pertains to the spirit of the rule.
I have no fricking clue what different drugs do. I'm 36 yo and never even smoked marijuana.
So can someone explain to me what exactly this xanax shit is and what does it do?
I'm like this as well, but too much and it pisses off basically everyone I know. My parents have called me a sociopath multiple times becausr I never show a reaction to even the worst news and just go about my life. I DO feel things, but there's some kind of inhibitor that stops me from expressing my true feelings. Here's a situation that happened to me not long ago. Imagine if your brother got involved in a terrible car crash and is seriously injured, and on the night of the same day you ask your parents if they have plans for the summer. They think you are tactless andn cold-blooded and get mad at you even though you're just following some sort of moronic instinct to keep it cool at all times. It's ruining my life ad my relationships. Sorry for the rant
It's possibly a biological adaptation in your genes that saved your ancestors life where others didn't make it. Passed on to you now, who are seen as detached relative to our current world of "express your feelings".
My other thought is that you did at some point become so overwhelmed that your brain, in an attempt to protect you from harm, turned off your cortisol receptors.
You may not remember this unless you really take time to reflect upon your life.
Autists like you make me genuinely angry. I know it’s not biologically your fault but the fact you can’t just GET it, is what pisses me off. Such a waste of resources
some people get real worked up getting on planes.
if you've ever hit some turbulence then you know why. the way the plane shakes, it's easy to imagine that the prelude to an accident, and a plane crash is unsurvivable. it's guaranteed a fatality.
i've almost died so many times now yet i have no broken bones, no major diagnoses illness. i am getting older but still haven't been to a doctor.
i think i might be invincible.
>You ever take a nap or wake up from refreshing sleep
no and it makes me want to die
legitimately the only time I can remember waking up and not wanting to go back to bed for 10 more hours was after my one and only time taking vicodin
I really don't like them. They just flatten everything and make you feel dead inside. Kind of like if opiates had everything pleasurable and dreamy taken out and replaced with a gray void.
Xanax is a benzodiazepine, that acts as an agonist of GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid), which is then a central nervous system depressant. Typically comes in 0.25, 0.5, 1, 2 mg in a pharmacy. Essentially it just mellows you out for several hours, but it can be easily abused. >source: I am in a pharmacology course
I wonder if there are proportionally more or less benzo addicts today than there were barbiturate addicts back in the 50s and 60s. Likewise for when speed was practically over-the-counter in diet pill form.
>buy a 5mg bar >pop half >take other half sublingually
i miss getting barred out sometimes but then i remember all the black outs
besides, anything you get on the street is likely a repress cut with fent. powdered drugs are fricking finished these days, i'm only smoking weed now i miss 420chan
Got bought by the Grand Wizard of CP, Fredrick Brennan.
He hasn't done shit with it since April though. Safe to assume the site is dead. RIP Netjester, I'll always remember getting high and talking shit with you.
because it's true? if you step on shit too hard with baby laxatives and baking soda you lose money cause word gets out your shit is bunk. fent rounds shit out because you still get high
That was back when opoids cost money. Fent is so cheap now, they put it in everything. Hell, they don't even pretend it's heroin anymore, just sell cut fent.
BAN NARCAN
They need to put warnings on the Narcan that the dying stranger you're saving is about to be wide awake and you just ruined their high.
There's about a 20 percent chance they wake up and start fighting you. People have been stabbed for being good Samaritans. >t.Vancouverite
All the states have these insane taxes because they know people will pay them because life is literally hell right now and everyone wants to get fricked up. I pay them because dealers suck, and because I don't want to die from fentanyl. It's in all the stre
yeah i enjoyed xanax. i took it (prescribed) right before my vasectomy. felt very at peace. it's the anxiety-killer. if i could get a stable supply i would take it before having to socialize with humans.
Otherwise it's a pretty boring drug, doesn't make you feel especially good, just relaxed.
Xanax is the most boring drug ever, I don't get how it became so popular recreationally. If you're actually panicking it's a miracle drug but otherwise it's just alcohol with no euphoria
Because alcohol fricks you up and you are unaware you're fricked up. Whereas with Xanax you are still in complete control of your faculties, but untroubled.
Drunks are a pathetic nuisance to anyone except other drunks.
Alcohol is only temporary relief until wears off and get horrible anxiety. Where Xanax has a long half life. Even longer is Valium which is like two day half life
>Xanax is the most boring drug ever, I don't get how it became so popular recreationally
Man for me that's opioids. I had to take a painkiller after a wisdom teeth got pulled and I barely felt anything but I couldn't shit right for days. Not being able to shit makes me miserable I don't see how people can take that trade
To give you a counter argument, they can cause extreme aggression, worse than a mean drunk, and blackouts. Withdrawals also cause seizures and death. I've also seen people develop tics after coming off of them.
Last time I did Xanax was 6 years ago. Why do people like getting high on it? It just makes people tired. The only thing I sort of remember was thinking this shits weak and I drank some booze on top of it, then I spent 100 dollars on gta v shark cards.
People don’t like it to “get high” but to get relief from anxiety. Racing thoughts. Being able to relax when constantly restless with anxiety. I use to drink to do that, but horrific hangover anxiety and panic attacks weren’t worth it.
>Between 30-35% of the population are prescribed either SSRIs, amphetamines, opioids or benzos >6% of the population are alcoholics >Between 15-20% of the population uses illegal drugs on a regular basis
Around half the people you run into on any given day are pharma zombies or junkies. Shit's fricking grim
Totally rocks for obliterating alcohol withdrawals, it feels like magic. But then you probably make them worse by drinking while Xanax is still in your system, which you'll likely do due to having poor self control that got you into alcohol withdrawals in the first place. But still, that phase of first finding benzos is a good place.
I'm sober now (2.5 years) and totally fine. Your body can recover from a lot of damage if you just stop obliterating it, like it's comically forgiving for a LONG time before it absolutely isn't.
It's still really nice popping an Ativan and like minutes later, the shakes go away and you feel like a normal person again. Problem is once you're feeling normal again, addict brain goes "Well then it's time to drink again, obviously" because learning lessons isn't fun.
>I hope you kick it for good in time
I don't think that's how it works, but I can say after 2.5 years I honestly don't want to get drunk anymore. If I used at all, it would only be because I was in a really dark place and was able to lie to myself about the consequences, because "honesty" has been huge for me and part of that is admitting the cost of usage is just way too high in exchange for very little.
Thanks though, dude.
because mentally broken people with panic disorder due to abuse and PTSD actually fricking need it while moronic drug addled teenagers and hip hop fans are doing everything in their power to ruin the little peace abuse victims get by getting it criminalized due to their moronic behavior
same thing happened with oxy, chronic pain patients genuinely need it and then drug addicts ruin their only peace by perpetuating a criminal aspect to it and now it's near impossible to get a legitimate prescription even for those who need it, basically frick druggies and people abusing pharmaceuticals for fun who don't need it, you ruin everything for people with actual disorders
Why do so many people gloss over the fact that people with genuine disorders who """need""" these drugs may get addicted to them as well? Different people have different susceptibility to addictive substances bro, nobody wakes up and says "gee I wanna be a drug addiction today :)"
they can get addicted to them, you also get addicted to antidepressants and have withdrawals when not taken, people are dependent on a number of therapies but that doesn't change their utility, the point is it's only worth risking addiction for people who NEED it, not zoomers listening to rap music and snorting pills
panic attacks aren't real
grow up
>I don't have cancer or any symptoms of it myself so it must not be real
have a nice day or read a medical textbook, you're a fricking moron
?????
I don't take xanax but I have a medical degree and you're a fricking contrarian moron who thinks he's cool for talking shit about others, you know nothing about mental illness and should take a nice walk through an asylum and tell those people they're faking it >calls me a child >has the edge lord attitude of a child himself
grow the frick up homosexual, you're posting from your mom's basement talking shit about others on a dicky forum lmfao
>I have a medical degree
You're either LARPing as a doc, a lowly CNA or you're straight out of a Caribbean quack factory. Either way, your opinion is dogshit
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'm a doctor too. Do you realize how pitiful you look striking back at people for having a fricking profession? Do you think medicine is hard? If you think it's not hard why does others being doctors make you insecure? What do you have to say about medicine?
>i have a medical degree
so you realize all those kookoos and drug addicts should be euthanized then
stop reinforcing the propaganda that's it's okay to have a legal substance abuse problem because you need it to start your day
Problem is the US has a real cabal of insurers and malpractice lawyers who place quotas on diagnoses and prescriptions. ADHD is actually a rare diagnosis, but you have people on the internet claiming they have it just because they love porn and browsing whatever the frick is on tiktok, same goes for people with "anxiety" that are actually just stressed or have insecurities. On the world of quotas its easier to give the patient pills that have nothing to do with the problem than to hear him out and give them personal advice, since that would also end up in lawsuit.
Antidepressants work to not wallow in shit and instead damp the feeling into a small bother. Benzos are used to stop seizures or calm down psychotics.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Damn I really riled up candy man over here KEK
7 months ago
Anonymous
A tale old as time.
7 months ago
Anonymous
you're the moron and I genuinely believe my position, Downy MD
7 months ago
Anonymous
Do you think the enormous increase in prescribing of amphetamines is a deliberate tactic from pharmaceutical companies after the crackdown on opioids? It ticks all the boxes and in many ways it's even better than opioids since the users don't drop dead, and a few years down the line they'll become dependent on even more pharmaceuticals to keep the side-effects in check
7 months ago
Anonymous
no, its because doctors get bonuses if they get enough people to take certain drugs, why the frick do you think theres commercials on regular tv for the most niche shit ever like bulging eye disease
7 months ago
Anonymous
Are you high on something or did you not read my post? What you're saying would be a deliberate tactic from the pharmaceutical companies who produce and sell those drugs
7 months ago
Anonymous
my god, are you possibly saying big pharma could be....le corrupt??????
7 months ago
Anonymous
>americans advertise drugs on tv
this blew my mind when i watched some american tv once.
in fact the whole ad break seemed like it was a parody of brainwashy ad breaks in some dystopian future.
7 months ago
Anonymous
What country do you live in that don't advertise drugs on TV?
7 months ago
Anonymous
american tv commercials is like nothing but cars, phones, beer, drugs, and disney shit
7 months ago
Anonymous
Also; the smaller the channel, the weirder and more obscure the drug/drug name. They're almost comedic at times.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>parody of brainwashy ad breaks in some dystopian future
Reminded me of this kino
7 months ago
Anonymous
my god, are you possibly saying big pharma could be....le corrupt??????
if you are off your meds, get on them. if you are on your meds, get off them. because whatever you’re doing now clearly isnt working
7 months ago
Anonymous
keep going to your doctors and taking whatever pill he orders you take little homosexual
>i have a medical degree
so you realize all those kookoos and drug addicts should be euthanized then
stop reinforcing the propaganda that's it's okay to have a legal substance abuse problem because you need it to start your day
7 months ago
Anonymous
yes they should, people being prescribed these drugs for actual disorders and taking them properly are not comparable to addicts going crazy about benzo withdrawals after abusing them lmfao you misunderstood my whole post, they're good for people who need them and take them properly, addicts who abuse them ruin it for everyone because they're dumb Black folk
>oh nooo I got a little headache 🙁
vs >FUUUUCK I HAD A SEIZURE AND DISLOCATED BOTH MY SHOULDERS AND GOT A COMPOUND CONCUSSION
These two are comparable to little Doogie howser over here
stop abusing the drugs and that won't happen you fricking moron, there are literally written instructions on how to take them so that DOESNT happen but you're a Black person who never learned to read or self control
7 months ago
Anonymous
>bro, just use this extremely addictive substance and have a bit of self-control ;^) >me? oh, i still use it every day but i have it under control, don't worry about it hehe
7 months ago
Anonymous
again, I don't use it and you're a moron making a strawman because I'm right and you have no argument, millions of patients take it as prescribed and don't end up in a detox ward with seizures, the problem isn't the pill it's your moronation and substance abuse tendencies
7 months ago
Anonymous
>bro, just use this extremely addictive substance and have a bit of self-control ;^)
No, if you can't exercise self control you shouldn't use it ever; but you shouldn't go around telling people who can exercise self control they can't have something just because you're a moron.
Fatties shouldn't eat ice cream, but if you're in good shape and exercise having some ice cream now and again is fine.
Frick off with your gay >ban everything I don't like
troony mentality.
time for your next pill, junkies
7 months ago
Anonymous
dilate
7 months ago
Anonymous
>bro, just use this extremely addictive substance and have a bit of self-control ;^)
No, if you can't exercise self control you shouldn't use it ever; but you shouldn't go around telling people who can exercise self control they can't have something just because you're a moron.
Fatties shouldn't eat ice cream, but if you're in good shape and exercise having some ice cream now and again is fine.
Frick off with your gay >ban everything I don't like
troony mentality.
7 months ago
Anonymous
this dude, there are people who use these drugs responsibly every day and then you have Black folk who couldn't control themselves and downed three xanax bars and drank whiskey every night and then got really sick and don't understand it was THEIR fault and expect everyone to sympathize and get mad at a fricking pill that has no intelligence or self will, it was made for a purpose and you have to use it responsibly, the fault is your own
[...]
time for your next pill, junkies
I don't take pills, keep coping you absolute fricking brain dead homosexual
7 months ago
Anonymous
Consistent daily use is prn for some nervous wrecks, this invariably creates a situation with the potential of withdrawal seizures. Clearly the safest best practice is to not use them longterm in the first place mr "I have a medical degree :^)"
7 months ago
Anonymous
everything you do in life has a risk benefit ratio and if you had a brain you'd know that, trying to be smug at my degree doesn't change anything you moron lmao you risk being addicted if you choose the therapy, it's your responsibility to choose and for some who have debilitating anxiety and panic episodes the trade off is worth it because their lives are shit anyway
7 months ago
Anonymous
I'm laughing at your medical degree is most likely low level as frick, if it even exists at all. Who am I kidding though, real life docs are as moronic and ethically questionable as you so maybe you graduated top of your class with an MD from whatever moron clutch you crawled out of
7 months ago
Anonymous
go beat off to more troony porn and keep lashing out at others better off than you lmao stay fricking bitter
7 months ago
Anonymous
>pure unfiltered projection
Lol, lmao even
7 months ago
Anonymous
>if I tell myself so then it must be true >it's true in my head!
pathetic
7 months ago
Anonymous
>projection the post
take another benzo addict
7 months ago
Anonymous
again ascribing fictional traits to me that make you feel better about yourself lmfao
But enough of you narrating your own thoughts, let's return to a substantive discussion mr troony connoisseur
you people truly belong in an asylum somewhere, 3am and you're trying to convince yourself someone else is a drug addict because they're making fun of you
7 months ago
Anonymous
the ones who truly belong in asylum's are the one's who rely on getting out of bed on a magic little pill so they can "function"
7 months ago
Anonymous
Man's up at 3 am polishing his CNA certificate jerking himself off as being the second coming of nightingale over here lol
when two overweight Cinemaphile posters get their jimmies absolutely fricking rustled and just can't calm down, maybe you both should look into therapy, some benzos might do you good. watch your blood pressure, it's dangerous to get so absolutely buttblasted at your weight
7 months ago
Anonymous
Hey cool it buddy, everyone here already knows you're the candy man. Laying it on a little thick dont you think?
7 months ago
Anonymous
i'm not the one defending their worthless pill pushing degree
[...]
stop drinking alone
someone couldn't handle their drugs and now they're in perpetual victim mode blaming it on someone else, sad and pathetic
7 months ago
Anonymous
get off your meds
7 months ago
Anonymous
Schizophrenic ramblings that could only materialize from the most guilty of consciences stained black by their insidious deeds. Have fun in hell for eternity, pillpushersama
7 months ago
Anonymous
get off your meds
seek help
7 months ago
Anonymous
i follow christ and he guides me despite my shortcomings
7 months ago
Anonymous
and yet you're online talking shit to strangers, clearly not doing much good for you
7 months ago
Anonymous
just trying to fight evil
7 months ago
Anonymous
how many dicky threads do you currently have open? lmao the most schizophrenic warrior for christ, I guess butching online makes up for being completely ineffectual and ignored and made fun of by all in your actual life
7 months ago
Anonymous
your job can be done better by a "savage" witch doctor living in the jungle
7 months ago
Anonymous
and you don't have a job at all, does being an internet warrior for god come with decent benefits? besides mental illness and a bitter attitude?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>projection the post
lmao, how's that degree working out for you
can't even find a job
while i'm doing work that you're going to be begging for people to do in a few years time
7 months ago
Anonymous
yes because moron Cinemaphile spammers are such a highly sought out talent, thank you for your service moron
7 months ago
Anonymous
thank you moron
7 months ago
Anonymous
i'm not the one defending their worthless pill pushing degree
weed*
alcohol just makes me bitter and regretful about every decision i've ever made
stop drinking alone
7 months ago
Anonymous
>said the prostitute who makes an ass of himself on the internet for negative attention
yikes
you're the worst kind of junkie of all
7 months ago
Anonymous
i'm an alcoholic and can admit it
you're a pill addicted junkie and can't
7 months ago
Anonymous
if i drink with people i also get aggressive and violent over the most dumb shit.
7 months ago
Anonymous
stop being an insecure butthole then
7 months ago
Anonymous
i'd rather just not drink alcohol
7 months ago
Anonymous
Man's up at 3 am polishing his CNA certificate jerking himself off as being the second coming of nightingale over here lol
7 months ago
Anonymous
But enough of you narrating your own thoughts, let's return to a substantive discussion mr troony connoisseur
7 months ago
Anonymous
we have existed thousands of years without these killer drugs and we don't need them except for the reason of the person who created them felt good on them and pushed them as "medicine"
alcohol feels so dirty, is bad for you physically, worse aftermath
actions have consequences
i wake up with a hangover, especially during the work week, i think "okay let's not do that again lol"
it's called learning
7 months ago
Anonymous
>we have existed thousands of years without these killer drugs
anon... I...
7 months ago
Anonymous
alcohol is natural
7 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know how to tell you this but heroin is natural too, anon
>they can get addicted to them, you also get addicted to antidepressants
Way to out yourself as completely talking out of your ass, SSRIs or SNRIs withdrawals are in no way comparable to benzo withdrawals and many SSRIs are very good at self tapering when suddenly discontinued
talking out of my ass lmfaoooo you know nothing about pharmaceuticals and antidepressant withdrawal is extremely uncomfortable and not to be scoffed at, especially for those already mentally unwell
why am I arguing with moronic Black folk on Cinemaphile anyway, you say one thing and you get a line of fricking buttholes trying to poke holes in things, your opinion is fricking worthless and if you're that bad off from benzos it isn't from taking them properly lmao you're not supposed to snort a xanax bar a day, of course you had horrible withdrawals you fricking moron
>oh nooo I got a little headache 🙁
vs >FUUUUCK I HAD A SEIZURE AND DISLOCATED BOTH MY SHOULDERS AND GOT A COMPOUND CONCUSSION
These two are comparable to little Doogie howser over here
>they can get addicted to them, you also get addicted to antidepressants and have withdrawals when not taken
Nta but you can't lump benzos or opioids in with things like SSRIs. They're not even remotely the same thing in terms of potential for addiction and the severity of the withdrawals. You're moronic if you think ordinary people don't end up abusing opioids and benzos once it has gotten ahold of them, even if they do technically need it to treat an illness
again you're talking about abuse, that's YOUR fault, not the drug, if you take it as prescribed and don't snort it all day then you don't have insane withdrawals, it's so simple to follow easy instructions but you're blaming the pill that does what it's supposed to for your own abuse and moronation
>I have a medical degree
You're either LARPing as a doc, a lowly CNA or you're straight out of a Caribbean quack factory. Either way, your opinion is dogshit
literally have a nice day
An alcoholic who drinks a maintenance dose of 6 drinks a day just to keep the shakes away is still an alcoholic. You are a coping drug addict, but like every other addict you will rationalize as to why your use is different from all the other addicts use
I don't use these substances you moron but keep projecting and enjoy alcoholism I guess
The problem always was doctors overprescribing them for minor issues and turning ordinary people into addicts. Both benzos and opioids are extremely addictive and given enough time on them, anyone will fall into the dark pit of addiction. The only users who deny this are addicts in denial who could quit any day but they "just don't want to"
Patients may also engage in dishonesty to stockpile addictive medications. The best solution is to just never go there in the first place, except for very acute cases
addiction isn't a problem if you have a maintenance dose lmfao oh no I'm dependent on the pills given to me, just dont be an butthole snorting and abusing what you're given, why would you go ape shit and start overtaking them or abusing them when you get a maintenance dose every day? it's just the behavior of buttholes and Black folk who ruin it for everyone else, my point still stands, if you take it as prescribed you'll be safe but noooooo we need to boof our xanax instead of saving it for panic episodes, it's your own fricking fault not the drug, the drug does what it's supposed to, you however can't control yourself and should be put down like the animal you are
An alcoholic who drinks a maintenance dose of 6 drinks a day just to keep the shakes away is still an alcoholic. You are a coping drug addict, but like every other addict you will rationalize as to why your use is different from all the other addicts use
its not wven that. i have dealt with oncology patients that get opioids because they are literally at death doors and the only thing you can do is dealt with the symptons like pain
and when they pass away or even while alive the familiars that take care of the patient just steals the opioids, like the old man that cant move anymore is crying because of the pain since he doesnt have his medication
what can you do with people this evil? should i just leave the old homosexual suffering for the next 2 years he has? we mostly prewcribe patches since the slow effect isnt that interesting for junkys but still
the cause of the opioids epidemic is all out in the open now and tens of billions of dollars in fines were handed out as a result and new regulation clamped down hard on doctors ability to prescribe opioids. pharma companies paid doctors kickbacks under the table to prescribe opioids for silly things like migraine and shit. your anecdotal experiences doesn't negate this truth, lmao
Only reason I switched from vodka to xanax was because I have a job and management not so subtlely told me I shouldnt show up to the office reeking of cheap booze.
Money. Man you know this.
Psychiatric drugs on the whole are made for people who literally cannot function. There's money to be made so they are going to give them to more people by expanding the definition of sickness. The DSM takes off a few diseases and adds new ones and so: >Oh you're sad sometimes? Prozac >Oh you don't feel good about your life? Xanax >Oh you have some pain somewhere? Oxy.
Maybe a good doctor will tell you there's risk. Maybe they'll even tell you to seek some therapy or physical exercise. Maybe. But most people work and eat and sleep and they're unhappy.
That's a lifetime customer. And there's more than hundred million of them. All wanting to feel better by any means
Drug addicts can get really fricking aggressive when someone points out their abuse. Likewise a lot of teetotaler homosexuals who've never used drugs tend to have very strong opinions about something they know almost nothing about. That's the perfect wienertail for a heated debate
The ex-addicts who can't take responsibility for their actions and blame the inanimate substance are my (least) favorite; they're only just barely in front of the guy who is a borderline alcoholic but has a zero tolerance policy for the heckin illegal substancerinos.
>they're only just barely in front of the guy who is a borderline alcoholic but has a zero tolerance policy for the heckin illegal substancerinos
Those are the worst by far. Fricking idiots are nuking their liver, kidneys, CNS and brain, and then proceeds to sit on their high horse talking shit about potheads who are only nuking their brains
I took 1mg of Xanax 2-3 times a day for at least 6-7 years. Lucky for me I don't believe I have any lasting side-effects.
I weened off it myself, because I got pissed at my israelite psych and I wanted to get off it anyway. Went to 1mg once a day, to half an mg, to nothing. The first day or two of changing dose were hell, but I normalised pretty quickly.
I feel sorry for anyone who has trouble getting off it. If the worst feeling of weening off that shit was spread to a week, or longer, I don't think I could have handled it. It's pretty fricking physically painful. Psych's should be mass-trialed for negligence. It's so easy to get this shit here and the psych won't even try to help you, just straight to drugs on day 1.
>It's so easy to get this shit here and the psych won't even try to help you, just straight to drugs on day 1.
Tbf psychiatrists are mainly in the business of med management, it's what kind of meds they're prescribing is the issue. The usual route for treating ptsd/depression/anxiety/whatever should be counseling then psychiatry if the counseling alone doesn't cut the mustard
Psychiatrists are doctors not therapists you massive homosexual what do you expect them to do ?listen to your gay ass troubles? You went to the drug peddler and got drugs and you're mad about it
>Take a shit so huge it gives me an anal fissure. bright red blood and ass burns for a while >Every time I take a shit now it re-opens my anal fissure
Drugs for this feel?
if it's not abused it's a great anti-anxiety medication. But I believe it really was designed for addiction, the euphoria is amazing. Sometimes you can seize from the euphoria, and your entire body will orgasm
I fricking hate these normie documentaries. I’d 100% watch a mockumentary in this style about lifeless morons who are hopelessly addicted to watching Netflix pharma documentaries.
You have to be clinically moronic to enjoy these dramatizations of well established facts that have been sitting in front of your face for DECADES >gf watches documentary on opioid pill pushers in the 90’s >”OH MY GAAAAAWD I NEVER REALIZED HOW EVILLLLLL! IS THIS REAL?!” >we literally live 10 minutes away from the northern tip of heroin central. >every other day you read some article about “the spiral” of opioid addiction that starts with painkillers. >meanwhile she takes ibuprofen six at a time because “you don’t feel anything with less” and she was shocked to learn the label had dosing instructions and warnings
You could tell these people the civil war was over experimental drugs that made monkeys go bald and they’d eat it up
>take Christ outside of your being >you need ~~*meds*~~ to fill the void instead
I am immune to depression and anxiety because Christ is real and he loves me.
Feels good, probably. SWIM would know.
Put it under your tongue and let it slowly dissolve. seems to work perfect.
Based SWIM poster
Are you moronic? Methadone is fricking legal. Fentanyl is le
Oh bullshit don't pretend just typing fentanyl is enough to kill y-
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Don't post, you aren't interesting.
How are benzos legal? Well they stop seizures, slow down people with terrible anxiety.
Shouldn't you rather question why are people moronic and abuse drugs for what they are not for?
You gays are fricking moronic. What the frick would we use to intubate people with imminent risk of death if it were not for fentanyl? Fentanyl saves lives, it's frickers like George flo
If I say fentanyl and Candleja
Cool anti seizure med that causes seizures that occur from withdrawal after longterm use
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Candlejack. There just saved you from a bunch of useless replies.
Hello ancientgays
Xanax is the devil. Once you’re eating 20mg a day it’s not pharm sourced anymore.
If you're taking 20mg of Xanax a day when the highest dosage you get from a single pill is 2mg, you've failed as a human being.
5s exist. They're called xanny bars.
Why the frick do you need 20mg a day? Like any benzo, it has a purpose. Those with anxiety and panic attacks. But no legit doctor going to give you a daily supply. Like pain killers, good luck getting those now after over prescriptions and lawsuits. Always junkies ruin shit for people need it
when I was 16 I had a daily prescription for benzos from my psychiatrist, like two bar a days. I’m french tho
France and Japan overprescribe them but what’s all this shitting on benzodiazepines
alcohol is much worse and there’s no pearl clutching about it it destroys your nervous system cardiac system and organs plus domestic violence and automobile crashes yet it’s not even scheduled
If you take a couple klonopin a week it’s not going to be an issue of course it’s addictive with some people but nobody is dying from them unless combined with an opioid and it’s safer than drinking
Sarah Gadon is so frickin hot
I love Sarah Gadon now.
more like Sarah GODDAMN
Beautiful Sarah Gadon.
This has to be an outlier right?
Meh.
>Pharma companies give huge bonuses for SSRIs because they're XXX$/mo. per patient and they're very hard to quit once you start taking them
>Basically every person that visits a psychologist by their own accord can qualify for depression treatment according to DSM
>No abuse potential
It's the perfect storm for overprescription. Even if they're rarely useful, change your brain chemistry permanently and have a metric frickton of side effects.
Family Physician here.
Benzos, like opioids, are pretty fricking awesome in acute settings with appropriate clinical need. They're legal and have clinical purpose. Just because drugs get abused on the streets doesn't mean they're inherently bad, hell Ketamine is the brand new thing when it comes to treatment resistant depression.
The problem is folks started getting hooked and we had increased, borderline rampant use of them in outpatient settings especially by suburban moms with nothing else to do. Patients started becoming drug addicts in a socially accepted manner. It's easier to take a pill for anxiety that's effectively equivalent to taking a few shots of vodka than fiddling around with SSRIs/SNRIs and waiting on therapy to kick in. So they get prescribed and people get hooked. Anxiety, insomnia, hell even GI upset can be treated with benzos and they work well. Now we know they aren't great in the long term and the new school of physicians are less likely to prescribe them unless in the inpatient setting.
Xanax isn't great though, half life is too short, hence why it's the one we see so abused.
Genetics for depression and mental illness is definitely real. I do wonder if they all had some sort of shared trauma in the family.
Older physicians tend to be a bit more loose, psychiatrists still give them out like candy...but your average primary doctor isn't giving them out as much anymore.
>Benzos, like opioids, are pretty fricking awesome
OY FRICKING VEY
Frick off homosexual, doctor's orders
OY
i had heard that around 2006 or so, medical associations and doctors groups recommended "treating pain", that is, actively asking patients during check ups "do you have any pain anywhere" and then prescribing an opiate or pain killer for it. What american over 35 doesn't have some kind of back pain, knee pain or shoulder pain? Of course, this is only anecdotal, but I believe this was how a large amount of opioids were prescribed initially, leading to the problems we have now.
yes, we used to look for ways to make all the pain go away, specially in oncology patients
now the recommendation is just lowering it to a EVA 2-4/10 (does it hurt enought to disturb your normal life?)
tell that to the middle aged woman with a dead son and husband that goes from craying to laughting in 3 seconds 5 times during the consult and the only motive she asked for a doctor is that she no longer sleeps
the damage is probably alredy done, good luck with your early dementia, old age is going to be a b***h to you
>the damage is probably alredy done
Yeah I trust you, doctor who can't spell simple words. Maybe I'm already dead!
>old age is going to be a b***h to you
Old age is a b***h if you let it be. I'm young and yet already make excellent life choices thanks to discipline most people never come close to finding, I'm aging far better than anyone else I know. Someone today at work guessed I was 7 years younger than I am and he was the third person there to do so. Yes, I used to live like shit, but I pulled myself out of a rut many never do. I'm pretty happy about it.
I'm sorry, you don't seem to be as knowledgeable as you believe yourself to be. Hope you learn a bit about "honesty" just as I did, maybe you can turn things around, too.
Keep convincing yourself that you're helping people.
I've never met someone on xanex who had eyes with a soul behind them.
You cannot master life by insulating yourself from it.
Frick you israelite
>Benzos
those fricking suck, i got chronic tinnitus because of them.
>Genetics for depression and mental illness is definitely real.
C O P E
If you're depressed it just means you're a loser and couldn't compete with real men. If you take drugs for it you're not only a loser, but also a junkie, just an hero.
>pretty fricking awesome
>folks
>shared trauma
have a nice day
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoloft
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prozac
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexipro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ativan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adderall
What the frick? Are yanks really this medicated all the time? How are there still so many passion crimes with so many sedatives going around?
>How are there still so many passion crimes with so many sedatives going around?
Benzos like Xanax and Ativan can make you massively behaviorally uninhibited, and unlike alcohol, you’re not likely to feel any different while it’s happening. There’s no warm sensation or buzz to warn you how intoxicated you are. In fact, many people get extremely angry on Benzos.
>and unlike alcohol, you’re not likely to feel any different while it’s happening
>Because alcohol fricks you up and you are unaware you're fricked up
Make up your mind, Anonymous
Please.. you can call me Anon
Give him a break Anon, he's probably on Xanax
What are you talking about? Those are not contradictory statements. You can feel differently and not be aware you feel differently at the time.
ah yes, metafeelition. I feel vs I feel that I feel. I know that feel bro.
I feel that.
I'm lost now
When I was on antidepressants they did literally nothing except make me sick as a fricking dog if I accidentally missed or was slightly late with a dose. Biggest scam in the world.
Americans are superficial queers who will take meds until they're fat as shit and green at the gills, suffering from vertigo all day, and because this allows them to careermax and feel entirely shameless, they think this is a sustainable way to live.
I know multiple people exactly like this.
One of the most interesting things I've learned about how America is different than the rest of the world is by watching sports livestreams (superbowl etc)
Almost every commercial is for a truck, a potato chip or a prescription drug. They're not allowed to advertise prescription drugs anywhere else except Brazil I believe.
American's don't think about it twice. The Vanguard "Oxycontin Express" documentary was really the first glimpse for me into "Pill Mills" and just how rampant this shit is. Talking with coworkers, family...Something like 1/3 of Americans are taking a prescription medication
This. The "ban drugs" people are asking the wrong questions and barking up the wrong trees.
The problem isn't the substances themselves; it's the attitudes and culture surrounding them. That aspect is royally fricked.
I am very pro drug when they're used responsibly, but getting kids unwittingly hooked on benzos and amphetamines is pure fricking evil.
that was a british video but go off euro gays
>daily pint of ice cream
Really? Couldn't tell LOL
Terrible for your metabolism
yeah and she has a chemical soup wienertail frying her already underwhelming woman brain
gibe adderall gf
You can never quite tell if pill-heads are gonna go off or not. I hate being around people with fricked up brains like that... we really need to bring back mental institutions and get these freaks out of society.
Blame republicans for shutting down mental hospitals.
I bet it was the democrats, they always frick it up and it's very progressive to let the mentally ill spit on you.
Reagan was a democrat??
He laid the groundwork for democrats importing their voter base. So functionally, yes
JFK and the ACLU did that. Republicans cut the budgets for outpatient programs.
> the only pretty and happy looking girl is the one on uppers
Figures
They all look visibly fricked up behind the eyes, why bother taking that shit when it's obviously not working?
It numbs all feelings. They would rather be zombies than feel bad or having to fix the problems that are making them feel bad
it's that or topping themselves
stopped two months ago. I guess I was lucky, no withdrawals so far.
I did it once at my fast food job and it was like I blinked my eyes and woke up in bed the next day. The security camera footage showed me attempting to work like a zombie while my co workers pretended it was normal.
howd you see the security footage? I used to black out on it and one time I literally got a DUI even though I drove all the way home fine
I took a bunch on a Sunday night, blacked out Monday completely (went to work, and went about my daily business like nothing was wrong), woke up Tuesday morning extremely confused. that was the last time I ever took xanax. the high wasn't even good either, it was like a shitty drunk feeling.
>drugs can give different responses based on doses
>people abusing a drug means it should be banned when the properly prescribed dosage can help people
Yeah I know its over prescribed and way too easy to abuse, but one of the arguments for the legalization of psychedelics is that low dosages can help with mental disorders despite high doeses causing you to trip.
It’s not over prescribed now. People that getting it from the blackmarket because like pain killers doctors scared of giving it out. If they do, maybe 2-3 tops. My wife is a nurse. They don’t give that shit out easily
>the properly prescribed dosage can help people
studies have shown it gives users increased anxiety overall even when used as prescribed
benzos are fricking gay only used by gays and women who think having a bad fee fee once means they need to pop drugs
anxiety isnt even fricking real, it can be fixed by just breathing slowly
>it can be fixed by just breathing slowly
>t. never had actual anxiety attacks
>t. is a literal pussy soi gay c**t who had a lil bad fee fee and cries about it to a psychiatrist
Have you ever had a panic attack
no I'm not a genetically subhuman homosexual like you. Stop making excuses for your drug addiction you pill popping Black person
Lol I don’t take drugs. If you had a panic attack, which you likely will sometime in the future, you’d understand you’re saying something embarrassingly foolish.
Not that guy but I used to think like you until I had my only panic attack. No I don't use any drugs legal or not. It's real.
Problem is its a israelite pill and it’s too good and kills you if you’re hooked and quit cold turkey. Also morons can’t not take them irresponsibly
Case in point
I'm not arguing for Xanax. I'm only explaining what I know. I loathe the way pills are used in modern America.
You're not American esl.
Do you think not believing in panic attacks played a role in that?
I have never had a panic attack, but the other day after a night of bingeing on ketamine and alcohol I woke up with a big hangover and very high heartbeat. After an hour or two I started to feel like I was having a heart attack. My first instinct was to call an ambulance but I said to myself
>okay anon, this must be a panic attack, just close your eyes and try to breath deeply, you can fix this
I took a bag that was close and I breathed inside it very deeply and after a minute of feeling like I was going crazy it subsided. I think if I didn't know about panic attacks or believe in them I would have ended in an hospital and I was able to avoid it thanks to my reaction. Maybe I'm wrong.
based emotional control anon, are you perhaps philosophically inclined?
>Do you think not believing in panic attacks played a role in that?
I'm not positive. I normally have great control of my mind so I never thought I'd fall victim. I'm honestly not positive it was that, but I'm not sure what else it could have been.
I'll explain my symptoms and you can tell me what it was. Or anyone else knowledgeable can. Or not, that's ok too
>uncontrollable shaking, tears, snot
>higher body temp, sweating
>couldn't speak straight
>momentary blackout
>everything slowly returned to normal and symptoms faded
I was consciously trying to calm myself down and understand the situation but I was unable to do it with any quickness.
I wonder if this moron is underaged, or if he genuinely thinks he's an Internet tough guy.
panic attacks aren't real
grow up
This. Mindfulness fricks can eat a dick. When feel like you’re having a full on heart attack le mindfulness breathing
>This. Mindfulness fricks can eat a dick. When feel like you’re having a full on heart attack le mindfulness breathing
you a literal NPC programmed to be a pussy. I could probably spit in your face and slap you and you'd fall into a fetal position clutching your chest and searching your pocket for a xanny pill
>dude it's just like a heart attack
I hope you fricking die pussy
you are a drug addict
> studies have shown it gives users increased anxiety overall even when used as prescribed
Absolute bullshit. Show me this study! Benzos are most effective drug for anxiety because mimicked GABA. Like alcohol but without shitty side effects of being a drunk driver the post hangxiety
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5852433/#:~:text=For%20many%2C%20BZDs%E2%80%94especially%20when,%2Dterm%E2%80%94actually%20worsen%20anxiety.
>For many, BZDs—especially when used long-term—actually worsen anxiety.
kek. you are drug addict. and a pussy, learn how to be a real human.
Did you even read stupid study you posted. It’s for long term use. Benzos are not meant for long term use. Only short term relief for anxiety and panic attacks. Antidepressants are prescribed for long term use but that’s entirely different matter. They’ve proven to barely above a placebo. But same not true for benzos.
moron
Microdosing is a meme and that is absolutely not the argument for their legal use.
Every single argument I've seen towards legalization of psychedelics states their possible use in treatment of mental disorders. Please enlighten me on the true argument for their legal use.
It is immoral to prohibit others from ingesting substances into their own body. If it essentially trying to control another person's body.
Our bodies are our own and no one else's. Or they are not. In authoritarian regimes they are not. In free societies, they are.
Having control of your body means being able to choose what to put inside it, and what to do with it.
Sounds like an abortion argument which is more immoral also being a junkie
in abortion there are always two human beings, the mother and the baby, and so i am totally opposed to abortion personally, because i think killing babies is evil. however i think it's properly a state's rights issue and so i expect there to be states that allow it and others that don't. unless americans discover philosophy, thats the best solution for an ignorant populace.
tl;dr abortion is murder but a federal ban would be a mistake
look i just want to get high
This is the libertarian argument to legalize all drugs not the argument brought before state politicians to legalize psychedelics specifically over all drugs.
You have no argument so you resort to name calling.
I'm not name calling; I'm telling you you have no authority and the onus is on you to convince others that they should give up their autonomy.
If its currently illegal, the people who want it legal need to form an argument for why it should be legal. If the law does nothing and nobody else does anything it's still illegal.
Then the first thing I'd say is that the perception that it being illegal as the default state is misleading and in reality the onus lies on the people who wish to keep it illegal. The system is fundamentally broken since laws don't expire. They should expire and they should be renegotiated every few decades.
The arguments in favor of drugs as benign and even medicinally valuable as psychedelics are based on inertia and NPC system faith - faith in bunk scare propaganda from 80 years ago. Luckily this attitude has actually shifted in recent years, however we;'re back to the fundamental problem of systemic inertia; the laws don't actually reflect the will of the people currently nor are they morally or even scientifically sound.
How do you feel about drugs like heroin and fentanyl? Don’t you feel those should be illegal?
No. The problem there is again a perception issue where people think that just because something is legal that means it's good, condoned or even encouraged. It's legal to pick your nose in public, but if you do it you're a frickwit. A more 1:1 analogy is alcohol: legal, but if you're a drunken fool, you're a dickhead.
On a fundamental level our problems today largely stem from a departure from fundamentals and first principles; the paper shit is mistaken for reality and the state is God: arbiter of all things holy and unholy. The state is just a tool; if we look to it for our morality we will be blind.
I will say that there would be some consequences to legalizing harder drugs at this current moment since people have departed from these first principles for long enough that they've been forgotten and total drug legalization would be pissing on an oil fire; however, we shouldn't make the mistake of thinking of inanimate substances as inherently bad; we have just become idiots.
I'll elaborate slightly since I didn't explain something properly: The state is an unthinking machine that struggles with nuance and complexity, and has a universalist approach to application of rules. Either thing bad always or thing good always. The problem is: drugs are highly case dependent; the scientist or artist taking some amphetamines to get his work done, the couple taking mdma for a night of fun etc. are very different instances than the homeless drug addict smoking crack and robbing houses.
>then just make crack illegal
It isn't the substance that is the issue; it's how you use it. The couple could substitute mdma for crack and have a good night, and the scientist/artist could do the same and still experience a similar boost. The associations we've created where some substances are bad and others are good actually have little basis in reality and are associative rather than prescriptive. I.E. meth is for poor drug addicts and adderall is for college kids; they're actually basically the same drug - amphetamine.
TL;DR The state is an inadequate tool to deal with the complexities of the issue and it's better left to individuals to take it on a case by case basis; i.e. parent your own kids and educate your damn self instead of deferring all responsibility to the state for every little thing.
To put it in other words: The "law" is just shit on a piece of paper. The onus is always on the proponent of the paper shit since they seek to alter the default state with their paper shit. If no one gives a frick about your paper: good luck enforcing it.
It is always the law's job to convince the public that their paper shit is just, not the other way around.
>Please enlighten me on the true argument for their legal use.
You're a dumbass with an inflated sense of his own importance play acting as an authority who needs convincing.
The treatment is done through high doses, not microdoses, you fricking moron.
>https://www.cancer.gov/research/participate/clinical-trials/intervention/psilocybine
Basically mushrooms make terminally ill people accept the fact that they are dying and come to peace with it. Not sure about anything else though
Look up their studies on alcoholism. 2 psilocybin trips made 80% of the alcoholics drastically reduce their intake and 50% of the alcoholics quit drinking entirely
Curiously the percentages look similar for treating depression and PTSD. 20% of the test subjects are either too blackpilled to be helped or there's some genetic component in 20% of people that makes the psilocybin not work as it should
100,000+ people have died from abusing prescription drugs over the last 10 years.
Now that doctors are less likely to give them out, druggies are resorting to street dealers and dying from fent instead
why wouldnt it be? they make billions drugging up all the goys and laugh about it on their yachts
Why do people keep getting great drugs banned? If I’m working and contributing to this shit shitfest, I should be able to put whatever I want in my fricking body. The weird thing is it went from republics to democrats. I fricking hate this system of control.
>xanax
>great drug
pretty shit tier drug my guy, once you've tried a few.
me and my friends would take them and usually just fall asleep or some boring shit
You stay awake and have a few beers. You’re numb to everything. Don’t drive on them though.
>Drinking on Benzos
Hate this shit. One way trip to blacking out, feels awful and makes you dizzy.
You took too much, moron.
Taking things on a case by case basis is too difficult and inefficient so now we all have to suffer because a few people can't handle their shit and people are lazy in rule application as it pertains to the spirit of the rule.
Not my problem
it's literally just alcohol with fewer side effects
why is Netflix on such an anti pharma kick? did ted sarandos ironically take a redpill?
I have no fricking clue what different drugs do. I'm 36 yo and never even smoked marijuana.
So can someone explain to me what exactly this xanax shit is and what does it do?
It makes you not care about anything.
Can you still make yourself do what you know you need to do? If so, it sounds better than caring too much.
Yes.
Not if you're autistic
Not for me, then. If anything, I have the opposite problem. I'm like that dog from "this is fine" meme, but unironically.
I'm like this as well, but too much and it pisses off basically everyone I know. My parents have called me a sociopath multiple times becausr I never show a reaction to even the worst news and just go about my life. I DO feel things, but there's some kind of inhibitor that stops me from expressing my true feelings. Here's a situation that happened to me not long ago. Imagine if your brother got involved in a terrible car crash and is seriously injured, and on the night of the same day you ask your parents if they have plans for the summer. They think you are tactless andn cold-blooded and get mad at you even though you're just following some sort of moronic instinct to keep it cool at all times. It's ruining my life ad my relationships. Sorry for the rant
In the same boat if it makes you feel any better. No clue what's wrong with me.
you are tactless, and you arent as cool as you think you are. just go with the flow of the room you dumbass moron.
It may be some kind of low level Asperger’s
It's possibly a biological adaptation in your genes that saved your ancestors life where others didn't make it. Passed on to you now, who are seen as detached relative to our current world of "express your feelings".
My other thought is that you did at some point become so overwhelmed that your brain, in an attempt to protect you from harm, turned off your cortisol receptors.
You may not remember this unless you really take time to reflect upon your life.
This is called depersonalization or Derealization.
Autists like you make me genuinely angry. I know it’s not biologically your fault but the fact you can’t just GET it, is what pisses me off. Such a waste of resources
never feel bad. You are based
As long as you help your people when you can, then being cool-headed is not a downside
just chills you out. take one before a plane ride or some awkward situation and it works fine but people end up needing them just to function
>take one before a plane ride
WTF are you a dog?
some people get real worked up getting on planes.
if you've ever hit some turbulence then you know why. the way the plane shakes, it's easy to imagine that the prelude to an accident, and a plane crash is unsurvivable. it's guaranteed a fatality.
I suppose I accept death too easily. I've fully accepted it at least once when I spun-out at 85mph in a 2000 honda civic
i've almost died so many times now yet i have no broken bones, no major diagnoses illness. i am getting older but still haven't been to a doctor.
i think i might be invincible.
>I've fully accepted it at least once when I spun-out at 85mph in a 2000 honda civic
Did it change your perspective on life?
>So can someone explain to me what exactly this xanax shit is and what does it do?
You ever take a nap or wake up from refreshing sleep and you have a pleasant feeling of being awake but still 10% asleep? It feels like that.
>You ever take a nap or wake up from refreshing sleep
no and it makes me want to die
legitimately the only time I can remember waking up and not wanting to go back to bed for 10 more hours was after my one and only time taking vicodin
I really don't like them. They just flatten everything and make you feel dead inside. Kind of like if opiates had everything pleasurable and dreamy taken out and replaced with a gray void.
Xanax is a benzodiazepine, that acts as an agonist of GABA (gamma-aminobutyric acid), which is then a central nervous system depressant. Typically comes in 0.25, 0.5, 1, 2 mg in a pharmacy. Essentially it just mellows you out for several hours, but it can be easily abused.
>source: I am in a pharmacology course
This is accurate. Agonists are more prone to abuse than inhibitors, which is why people don't abuse things like SSRIs, or coffee for that matter.
>source:I am an IV drug user for 24 years.
It makes you not give a frick about anything but in the worst way possible
I wonder if there are proportionally more or less benzo addicts today than there were barbiturate addicts back in the 50s and 60s. Likewise for when speed was practically over-the-counter in diet pill form.
Valium is a benzo and it was known as the housewife’s best friend in the 50s and 60s, so I’d say Benzos have always been more popular.
>I wonder if there are proportionally more or less benzo addicts today than there were barbiturate addicts back in the 50s and 60s
I bet money on more, barbituates and alcohol fricking kill you dead, benzos and alcohol just makes you crash your car.
>buy a 5mg bar
>pop half
>take other half sublingually
i miss getting barred out sometimes but then i remember all the black outs
besides, anything you get on the street is likely a repress cut with fent. powdered drugs are fricking finished these days, i'm only smoking weed now
i miss 420chan
What happened to 420chan?
Got bought by the Grand Wizard of CP, Fredrick Brennan.
He hasn't done shit with it since April though. Safe to assume the site is dead. RIP Netjester, I'll always remember getting high and talking shit with you.
>cut with fent
Why is this dead meme from the 90s making a comeback? Cutting non-opioids with opioids would be extremely moronic. No one does that.
because it's true? if you step on shit too hard with baby laxatives and baking soda you lose money cause word gets out your shit is bunk. fent rounds shit out because you still get high
That was back when opoids cost money. Fent is so cheap now, they put it in everything. Hell, they don't even pretend it's heroin anymore, just sell cut fent.
BAN NARCAN
They need to put warnings on the Narcan that the dying stranger you're saving is about to be wide awake and you just ruined their high.
There's about a 20 percent chance they wake up and start fighting you. People have been stabbed for being good Samaritans.
>t.Vancouverite
Being narcanned fricking sucks. Just let people die it's what they want anyway
>i miss 420chan
You and me both friend.
DICKS EVERYWHERE
Drugs are illegal because Congress is gay.
I am so glad mj is legal, but the taxes are fricking ludicrous. it's like 25%.
I still buy from darknet marketplaces because of that. I will not pay $425+ for an ounce
All the states have these insane taxes because they know people will pay them because life is literally hell right now and everyone wants to get fricked up. I pay them because dealers suck, and because I don't want to die from fentanyl. It's in all the stre
It's weird that such a woke company is shilling against pharmacetical companies.
Don't these guys worship their feel good drug
That's the greatest thing I've seen this week. Thanks, anon.
I POP A PERCY AND GO moronic.. WAIT
For me? It's Addy.
I've taken xanax like... 8 times max in my life
only times I've ever felt truly calm and relaxed in my life. my mind is fricked
yeah i enjoyed xanax. i took it (prescribed) right before my vasectomy. felt very at peace. it's the anxiety-killer. if i could get a stable supply i would take it before having to socialize with humans.
Otherwise it's a pretty boring drug, doesn't make you feel especially good, just relaxed.
Xanax is the most boring drug ever, I don't get how it became so popular recreationally. If you're actually panicking it's a miracle drug but otherwise it's just alcohol with no euphoria
Because alcohol fricks you up and you are unaware you're fricked up. Whereas with Xanax you are still in complete control of your faculties, but untroubled.
Drunks are a pathetic nuisance to anyone except other drunks.
i'm 100% aware i'm fricking wasted on alcohol
you don't even realize you're an addict when on xanax
Alcohol is only temporary relief until wears off and get horrible anxiety. Where Xanax has a long half life. Even longer is Valium which is like two day half life
>Xanax is the most boring drug ever, I don't get how it became so popular recreationally
Man for me that's opioids. I had to take a painkiller after a wisdom teeth got pulled and I barely felt anything but I couldn't shit right for days. Not being able to shit makes me miserable I don't see how people can take that trade
I haven't had one in years now but I would describe xannies as "idgaf" in a pill for 6 hours or so.
If you have self control they're great. I take one (.50mg) on the weekends to wind down while watching a movie.
You guys are making me want to get hooked on xanax
To give you a counter argument, they can cause extreme aggression, worse than a mean drunk, and blackouts. Withdrawals also cause seizures and death. I've also seen people develop tics after coming off of them.
For me its a pregabalin and modafinil combo
I heard if you ever get sent to the mental ward you can go to a nurse and ask for a Xanax every 4 hours and they give you one
Last time I did Xanax was 6 years ago. Why do people like getting high on it? It just makes people tired. The only thing I sort of remember was thinking this shits weak and I drank some booze on top of it, then I spent 100 dollars on gta v shark cards.
> Why do people like getting high on it?
People don’t like it to “get high” but to get relief from anxiety. Racing thoughts. Being able to relax when constantly restless with anxiety. I use to drink to do that, but horrific hangover anxiety and panic attacks weren’t worth it.
I used to do xanax and drink and would wake up with notebooks full of Bam tier schizo shit
thats called earthrocking
youre an earthrocker
It is not in my country. And by god I fricking deserve it
>Between 30-35% of the population are prescribed either SSRIs, amphetamines, opioids or benzos
>6% of the population are alcoholics
>Between 15-20% of the population uses illegal drugs on a regular basis
Around half the people you run into on any given day are pharma zombies or junkies. Shit's fricking grim
Will xanax make me fat?
Xanax used to make my stomach feel like a bottomless put so possibly
Totally rocks for obliterating alcohol withdrawals, it feels like magic. But then you probably make them worse by drinking while Xanax is still in your system, which you'll likely do due to having poor self control that got you into alcohol withdrawals in the first place. But still, that phase of first finding benzos is a good place.
Good luck with the respiratory depression kek
I'm sober now (2.5 years) and totally fine. Your body can recover from a lot of damage if you just stop obliterating it, like it's comically forgiving for a LONG time before it absolutely isn't.
It's still really nice popping an Ativan and like minutes later, the shakes go away and you feel like a normal person again. Problem is once you're feeling normal again, addict brain goes "Well then it's time to drink again, obviously" because learning lessons isn't fun.
Best of luck managing that monkey on your back friend, I hope you kick it for good in time
>I hope you kick it for good in time
I don't think that's how it works, but I can say after 2.5 years I honestly don't want to get drunk anymore. If I used at all, it would only be because I was in a really dark place and was able to lie to myself about the consequences, because "honesty" has been huge for me and part of that is admitting the cost of usage is just way too high in exchange for very little.
Thanks though, dude.
because mentally broken people with panic disorder due to abuse and PTSD actually fricking need it while moronic drug addled teenagers and hip hop fans are doing everything in their power to ruin the little peace abuse victims get by getting it criminalized due to their moronic behavior
same thing happened with oxy, chronic pain patients genuinely need it and then drug addicts ruin their only peace by perpetuating a criminal aspect to it and now it's near impossible to get a legitimate prescription even for those who need it, basically frick druggies and people abusing pharmaceuticals for fun who don't need it, you ruin everything for people with actual disorders
Why do so many people gloss over the fact that people with genuine disorders who """need""" these drugs may get addicted to them as well? Different people have different susceptibility to addictive substances bro, nobody wakes up and says "gee I wanna be a drug addiction today :)"
>nobody wakes up and says "gee I wanna be a drug addiction today :)"
speak for yourself dork
they can get addicted to them, you also get addicted to antidepressants and have withdrawals when not taken, people are dependent on a number of therapies but that doesn't change their utility, the point is it's only worth risking addiction for people who NEED it, not zoomers listening to rap music and snorting pills
>I don't have cancer or any symptoms of it myself so it must not be real
have a nice day or read a medical textbook, you're a fricking moron
>oh no somebody looked at me i need to pop a pill!
fricking child
?????
I don't take xanax but I have a medical degree and you're a fricking contrarian moron who thinks he's cool for talking shit about others, you know nothing about mental illness and should take a nice walk through an asylum and tell those people they're faking it
>calls me a child
>has the edge lord attitude of a child himself
grow the frick up homosexual, you're posting from your mom's basement talking shit about others on a dicky forum lmfao
>I have a medical degree
You're either LARPing as a doc, a lowly CNA or you're straight out of a Caribbean quack factory. Either way, your opinion is dogshit
I'm a doctor too. Do you realize how pitiful you look striking back at people for having a fricking profession? Do you think medicine is hard? If you think it's not hard why does others being doctors make you insecure? What do you have to say about medicine?
Problem is the US has a real cabal of insurers and malpractice lawyers who place quotas on diagnoses and prescriptions. ADHD is actually a rare diagnosis, but you have people on the internet claiming they have it just because they love porn and browsing whatever the frick is on tiktok, same goes for people with "anxiety" that are actually just stressed or have insecurities. On the world of quotas its easier to give the patient pills that have nothing to do with the problem than to hear him out and give them personal advice, since that would also end up in lawsuit.
Antidepressants work to not wallow in shit and instead damp the feeling into a small bother. Benzos are used to stop seizures or calm down psychotics.
Damn I really riled up candy man over here KEK
A tale old as time.
you're the moron and I genuinely believe my position, Downy MD
Do you think the enormous increase in prescribing of amphetamines is a deliberate tactic from pharmaceutical companies after the crackdown on opioids? It ticks all the boxes and in many ways it's even better than opioids since the users don't drop dead, and a few years down the line they'll become dependent on even more pharmaceuticals to keep the side-effects in check
no, its because doctors get bonuses if they get enough people to take certain drugs, why the frick do you think theres commercials on regular tv for the most niche shit ever like bulging eye disease
Are you high on something or did you not read my post? What you're saying would be a deliberate tactic from the pharmaceutical companies who produce and sell those drugs
my god, are you possibly saying big pharma could be....le corrupt??????
>americans advertise drugs on tv
this blew my mind when i watched some american tv once.
in fact the whole ad break seemed like it was a parody of brainwashy ad breaks in some dystopian future.
What country do you live in that don't advertise drugs on TV?
american tv commercials is like nothing but cars, phones, beer, drugs, and disney shit
Also; the smaller the channel, the weirder and more obscure the drug/drug name. They're almost comedic at times.
>parody of brainwashy ad breaks in some dystopian future
Reminded me of this kino
if you are off your meds, get on them. if you are on your meds, get off them. because whatever you’re doing now clearly isnt working
keep going to your doctors and taking whatever pill he orders you take little homosexual
>i have a medical degree
so you realize all those kookoos and drug addicts should be euthanized then
stop reinforcing the propaganda that's it's okay to have a legal substance abuse problem because you need it to start your day
yes they should, people being prescribed these drugs for actual disorders and taking them properly are not comparable to addicts going crazy about benzo withdrawals after abusing them lmfao you misunderstood my whole post, they're good for people who need them and take them properly, addicts who abuse them ruin it for everyone because they're dumb Black folk
stop abusing the drugs and that won't happen you fricking moron, there are literally written instructions on how to take them so that DOESNT happen but you're a Black person who never learned to read or self control
>bro, just use this extremely addictive substance and have a bit of self-control ;^)
>me? oh, i still use it every day but i have it under control, don't worry about it hehe
again, I don't use it and you're a moron making a strawman because I'm right and you have no argument, millions of patients take it as prescribed and don't end up in a detox ward with seizures, the problem isn't the pill it's your moronation and substance abuse tendencies
time for your next pill, junkies
dilate
>bro, just use this extremely addictive substance and have a bit of self-control ;^)
No, if you can't exercise self control you shouldn't use it ever; but you shouldn't go around telling people who can exercise self control they can't have something just because you're a moron.
Fatties shouldn't eat ice cream, but if you're in good shape and exercise having some ice cream now and again is fine.
Frick off with your gay
>ban everything I don't like
troony mentality.
this dude, there are people who use these drugs responsibly every day and then you have Black folk who couldn't control themselves and downed three xanax bars and drank whiskey every night and then got really sick and don't understand it was THEIR fault and expect everyone to sympathize and get mad at a fricking pill that has no intelligence or self will, it was made for a purpose and you have to use it responsibly, the fault is your own
I don't take pills, keep coping you absolute fricking brain dead homosexual
Consistent daily use is prn for some nervous wrecks, this invariably creates a situation with the potential of withdrawal seizures. Clearly the safest best practice is to not use them longterm in the first place mr "I have a medical degree :^)"
everything you do in life has a risk benefit ratio and if you had a brain you'd know that, trying to be smug at my degree doesn't change anything you moron lmao you risk being addicted if you choose the therapy, it's your responsibility to choose and for some who have debilitating anxiety and panic episodes the trade off is worth it because their lives are shit anyway
I'm laughing at your medical degree is most likely low level as frick, if it even exists at all. Who am I kidding though, real life docs are as moronic and ethically questionable as you so maybe you graduated top of your class with an MD from whatever moron clutch you crawled out of
go beat off to more troony porn and keep lashing out at others better off than you lmao stay fricking bitter
>pure unfiltered projection
Lol, lmao even
>if I tell myself so then it must be true
>it's true in my head!
pathetic
>projection the post
take another benzo addict
again ascribing fictional traits to me that make you feel better about yourself lmfao
you people truly belong in an asylum somewhere, 3am and you're trying to convince yourself someone else is a drug addict because they're making fun of you
the ones who truly belong in asylum's are the one's who rely on getting out of bed on a magic little pill so they can "function"
when two overweight Cinemaphile posters get their jimmies absolutely fricking rustled and just can't calm down, maybe you both should look into therapy, some benzos might do you good. watch your blood pressure, it's dangerous to get so absolutely buttblasted at your weight
Hey cool it buddy, everyone here already knows you're the candy man. Laying it on a little thick dont you think?
someone couldn't handle their drugs and now they're in perpetual victim mode blaming it on someone else, sad and pathetic
get off your meds
Schizophrenic ramblings that could only materialize from the most guilty of consciences stained black by their insidious deeds. Have fun in hell for eternity, pillpushersama
seek help
i follow christ and he guides me despite my shortcomings
and yet you're online talking shit to strangers, clearly not doing much good for you
just trying to fight evil
how many dicky threads do you currently have open? lmao the most schizophrenic warrior for christ, I guess butching online makes up for being completely ineffectual and ignored and made fun of by all in your actual life
your job can be done better by a "savage" witch doctor living in the jungle
and you don't have a job at all, does being an internet warrior for god come with decent benefits? besides mental illness and a bitter attitude?
>projection the post
lmao, how's that degree working out for you
can't even find a job
while i'm doing work that you're going to be begging for people to do in a few years time
yes because moron Cinemaphile spammers are such a highly sought out talent, thank you for your service moron
thank you moron
i'm not the one defending their worthless pill pushing degree
stop drinking alone
>said the prostitute who makes an ass of himself on the internet for negative attention
yikes
you're the worst kind of junkie of all
i'm an alcoholic and can admit it
you're a pill addicted junkie and can't
if i drink with people i also get aggressive and violent over the most dumb shit.
stop being an insecure butthole then
i'd rather just not drink alcohol
Man's up at 3 am polishing his CNA certificate jerking himself off as being the second coming of nightingale over here lol
But enough of you narrating your own thoughts, let's return to a substantive discussion mr troony connoisseur
we have existed thousands of years without these killer drugs and we don't need them except for the reason of the person who created them felt good on them and pushed them as "medicine"
actions have consequences
i wake up with a hangover, especially during the work week, i think "okay let's not do that again lol"
it's called learning
>we have existed thousands of years without these killer drugs
anon... I...
alcohol is natural
I don't know how to tell you this but heroin is natural too, anon
>they can get addicted to them, you also get addicted to antidepressants
Way to out yourself as completely talking out of your ass, SSRIs or SNRIs withdrawals are in no way comparable to benzo withdrawals and many SSRIs are very good at self tapering when suddenly discontinued
talking out of my ass lmfaoooo you know nothing about pharmaceuticals and antidepressant withdrawal is extremely uncomfortable and not to be scoffed at, especially for those already mentally unwell
why am I arguing with moronic Black folk on Cinemaphile anyway, you say one thing and you get a line of fricking buttholes trying to poke holes in things, your opinion is fricking worthless and if you're that bad off from benzos it isn't from taking them properly lmao you're not supposed to snort a xanax bar a day, of course you had horrible withdrawals you fricking moron
>oh nooo I got a little headache 🙁
vs
>FUUUUCK I HAD A SEIZURE AND DISLOCATED BOTH MY SHOULDERS AND GOT A COMPOUND CONCUSSION
These two are comparable to little Doogie howser over here
>they can get addicted to them, you also get addicted to antidepressants and have withdrawals when not taken
Nta but you can't lump benzos or opioids in with things like SSRIs. They're not even remotely the same thing in terms of potential for addiction and the severity of the withdrawals. You're moronic if you think ordinary people don't end up abusing opioids and benzos once it has gotten ahold of them, even if they do technically need it to treat an illness
again you're talking about abuse, that's YOUR fault, not the drug, if you take it as prescribed and don't snort it all day then you don't have insane withdrawals, it's so simple to follow easy instructions but you're blaming the pill that does what it's supposed to for your own abuse and moronation
literally have a nice day
I don't use these substances you moron but keep projecting and enjoy alcoholism I guess
The problem always was doctors overprescribing them for minor issues and turning ordinary people into addicts. Both benzos and opioids are extremely addictive and given enough time on them, anyone will fall into the dark pit of addiction. The only users who deny this are addicts in denial who could quit any day but they "just don't want to"
Patients may also engage in dishonesty to stockpile addictive medications. The best solution is to just never go there in the first place, except for very acute cases
addiction isn't a problem if you have a maintenance dose lmfao oh no I'm dependent on the pills given to me, just dont be an butthole snorting and abusing what you're given, why would you go ape shit and start overtaking them or abusing them when you get a maintenance dose every day? it's just the behavior of buttholes and Black folk who ruin it for everyone else, my point still stands, if you take it as prescribed you'll be safe but noooooo we need to boof our xanax instead of saving it for panic episodes, it's your own fricking fault not the drug, the drug does what it's supposed to, you however can't control yourself and should be put down like the animal you are
An alcoholic who drinks a maintenance dose of 6 drinks a day just to keep the shakes away is still an alcoholic. You are a coping drug addict, but like every other addict you will rationalize as to why your use is different from all the other addicts use
its not wven that. i have dealt with oncology patients that get opioids because they are literally at death doors and the only thing you can do is dealt with the symptons like pain
and when they pass away or even while alive the familiars that take care of the patient just steals the opioids, like the old man that cant move anymore is crying because of the pain since he doesnt have his medication
what can you do with people this evil? should i just leave the old homosexual suffering for the next 2 years he has? we mostly prewcribe patches since the slow effect isnt that interesting for junkys but still
the cause of the opioids epidemic is all out in the open now and tens of billions of dollars in fines were handed out as a result and new regulation clamped down hard on doctors ability to prescribe opioids. pharma companies paid doctors kickbacks under the table to prescribe opioids for silly things like migraine and shit. your anecdotal experiences doesn't negate this truth, lmao
I take them to sleep, if I don't sleep I can't work, I'm screwed, I've thought about ending myself because of this.
Frick, that sucks. I hope things will get better.
almost thought i fractured a bone in my hand but it's feeling better now
ate like 0,5 mg a day for whole spring and summer. had no problems quitting
why do i need these shitty addictive zombie inducing pills when i have alcohol?
alcohol feels so dirty, is bad for you physically, worse aftermath
weed*
alcohol just makes me bitter and regretful about every decision i've ever made
Only reason I switched from vodka to xanax was because I have a job and management not so subtlely told me I shouldnt show up to the office reeking of cheap booze.
so stop showing up drunk?
I dont anymore thanks to xanax.
Money. Man you know this.
Psychiatric drugs on the whole are made for people who literally cannot function. There's money to be made so they are going to give them to more people by expanding the definition of sickness. The DSM takes off a few diseases and adds new ones and so:
>Oh you're sad sometimes? Prozac
>Oh you don't feel good about your life? Xanax
>Oh you have some pain somewhere? Oxy.
Maybe a good doctor will tell you there's risk. Maybe they'll even tell you to seek some therapy or physical exercise. Maybe. But most people work and eat and sleep and they're unhappy.
That's a lifetime customer. And there's more than hundred million of them. All wanting to feel better by any means
Lots of heated arguments tonight.
Drug addicts can get really fricking aggressive when someone points out their abuse. Likewise a lot of teetotaler homosexuals who've never used drugs tend to have very strong opinions about something they know almost nothing about. That's the perfect wienertail for a heated debate
The ex-addicts who can't take responsibility for their actions and blame the inanimate substance are my (least) favorite; they're only just barely in front of the guy who is a borderline alcoholic but has a zero tolerance policy for the heckin illegal substancerinos.
>they're only just barely in front of the guy who is a borderline alcoholic but has a zero tolerance policy for the heckin illegal substancerinos
Those are the worst by far. Fricking idiots are nuking their liver, kidneys, CNS and brain, and then proceeds to sit on their high horse talking shit about potheads who are only nuking their brains
Numbing yourself out to "cure" shit has been a thing since humans first existed
did they play Lil Xan - Betrayed in this doco? if not I'm not watching
>Lil xan
What happened to that dude? He still a total fricking zombie?
last I heard he was clean
I took 1mg of Xanax 2-3 times a day for at least 6-7 years. Lucky for me I don't believe I have any lasting side-effects.
I weened off it myself, because I got pissed at my israelite psych and I wanted to get off it anyway. Went to 1mg once a day, to half an mg, to nothing. The first day or two of changing dose were hell, but I normalised pretty quickly.
I feel sorry for anyone who has trouble getting off it. If the worst feeling of weening off that shit was spread to a week, or longer, I don't think I could have handled it. It's pretty fricking physically painful. Psych's should be mass-trialed for negligence. It's so easy to get this shit here and the psych won't even try to help you, just straight to drugs on day 1.
>It's so easy to get this shit here and the psych won't even try to help you, just straight to drugs on day 1.
Tbf psychiatrists are mainly in the business of med management, it's what kind of meds they're prescribing is the issue. The usual route for treating ptsd/depression/anxiety/whatever should be counseling then psychiatry if the counseling alone doesn't cut the mustard
Psychiatrists are doctors not therapists you massive homosexual what do you expect them to do ?listen to your gay ass troubles? You went to the drug peddler and got drugs and you're mad about it
>Take a shit so huge it gives me an anal fissure. bright red blood and ass burns for a while
>Every time I take a shit now it re-opens my anal fissure
Drugs for this feel?
estrogen and getting topped on grindr
if it's not abused it's a great anti-anxiety medication. But I believe it really was designed for addiction, the euphoria is amazing. Sometimes you can seize from the euphoria, and your entire body will orgasm
I fricking hate these normie documentaries. I’d 100% watch a mockumentary in this style about lifeless morons who are hopelessly addicted to watching Netflix pharma documentaries.
You have to be clinically moronic to enjoy these dramatizations of well established facts that have been sitting in front of your face for DECADES
>gf watches documentary on opioid pill pushers in the 90’s
>”OH MY GAAAAAWD I NEVER REALIZED HOW EVILLLLLL! IS THIS REAL?!”
>we literally live 10 minutes away from the northern tip of heroin central.
>every other day you read some article about “the spiral” of opioid addiction that starts with painkillers.
>meanwhile she takes ibuprofen six at a time because “you don’t feel anything with less” and she was shocked to learn the label had dosing instructions and warnings
You could tell these people the civil war was over experimental drugs that made monkeys go bald and they’d eat it up
>take Christ outside of your being
>you need ~~*meds*~~ to fill the void instead
I am immune to depression and anxiety because Christ is real and he loves me.