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>general grievous
GRIEVOUSCHADS GET IN HERE
oh also Barriss Offee, nobody cares about Morgan
Tales of the Empire
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>general grievous
GRIEVOUSCHADS GET IN HERE
oh also Barriss Offee, nobody cares about Morgan
>nobody cares about Morgan
I rolled my eyes the instant she showed up in this trailer.
There's something about Filoni's new characters where I just find them fundamentally off-putting and/or uninteresting
vader is 100% going to execute barriss for the lolz
Glad to see that Barris still exists even though she's totally getting killed in her last episode
who's gonna kill her though?
Vader?
Ventress?
Grinky?
Vader or Reva
She's gonna show some slight sign of remorse for something and Vader is gonna kill her, either that or he's going to say "hey remember that time where you betrayed the Jedis? The empire has no need for these kind of people" which of course will sound hypocritical and dumb and it will actually turn out to be because he's still salty about her framing Ahsoka
Vader will kill her out of revenge for Ashoka. This is early Vader so he has not fully removed the Anakin persona yet
Who the frick is Grinky
Grand Inquisitor
grand inquisitor
Vader's going to meet her, she realises who he is, and then he'll execute her on the spot, guaranteed.
And then GI is gonna be like "God dammit Vader we just finished training her!"
>empire centric show
Can't wait for the MC to defect because Disney is adverse to the Empire
we already know morgan's story through to ahsoka and she's pure empire
barris is the only unknown but will likely die
Morgan is an Imperial fanatic and dies as such (and even if shed lived she was willingly stranding herself in another galaxy just for a chance at Thrawn reviving the Empire)
No idea with Barriss I kinda expect her to die.
I would love a show about sergeant kreel because he was down bad for Palpatine
Based. These dudes were cool af. A video game about them ala Republic Commandos would be welcome too.
LOOK I GOT IT
STORMTROOPER COMMANDOS RIPPING OFF HELLDIVERS
>Helldivers Star Wars rip off about a military division of Stormtroopers sent to various planets to kill all the different alien creatures so that they can make various Empire bases in their habitats
Would play. That idea is too awesome EA and its DEI troony execs to actually do though
The stormtroopers are still seen as jokes in star wars so good luck with that
It's terrible how pathetic the Empire is made in Star Wars Rebels. Ruins the Stormtroopers completely.
Andor was the closest we have got to competent imperial troops but it still uses tropes
I give this a pass because it was awesome. Drum guy is based.
The only good Disney wars content we have.
Not really about the Stormtroopers but the prison escape sequence from Andor is fricking stupid
>NO WE CAN'T ESCAPE FROM HERE WE'RE TRAPPED EVERYONE IS GONNA DIE IT'S FRICKING OVER
>But what if... we escaped?
>Oh shit you're right
>Everyone proceeds to escape without even the slightest trouble except the one guy who can't swim
Wow, such masterpiece, very clever writing
They decided to escape once they realised they were never going to be free and that they would probably be killed anyways like those 100 inmates.
Yeah and the guards did pretty much nothing good about it, the excuse they've used is "because the Empire's ego is too big, they didn't think anyone would try to escape" which is the same fricking shitty excuse they've used in the Kenobi show when some Rebels entered the fricking Inquisitorius without any problem, but in Kenobi's show everyone shat on it, when Andor does it it's clever writing
That's because their wasn't enough guards to hold off the prisoners, which was even mentioned by one of the characters earlier on. You could a small group of them hiding behind a door.
They thought that the electric floors were enough to maintain control, and never took into account the possibility of their planned failure.
God I hate speedwatchers so fricking much its unreal.
With no issue? Like 95%+ of them died, you moron
Frick off, the only few morons that are shown to die are the ones who didn't jump on the tables at the start of the prison break
>That's because their wasn't enough guards to hold off the prisoners
Yes, and that goes back right to what I was saying, the excuse they've used is "because nobody would ever try go escape anyway" so they didn't put enough guards in there, which is still shit
They literally tell AND show you in the show that nearly all the escapees were rounded and killed or recaptured (i.e. executed) as they fled on foot, you dumb speedwatching homosexual.
>Yes, and that goes back right to what I was saying, the excuse they've used is "because nobody would ever try go escape anyway" so they didn't put enough guards in there, which is still shit
The economic argument is implied there, which is a good enough reason because it happens irl all the time—Empires/corporations shortsightedly cut corners and attempt to squeeze as much profit out of its subjects as it can. Eventually so much is compromised in the pursuit of maximum profit that systems begin to break down.
Imprisoning innocents on false charges, using them as slave labor, and having a skeleton crew guard the slaves imprisoned in a high-tech fortress is a realistic sequence of events.
The Empire has rarely been shown thinking about the money, especially in Disney's Star Wars since most of the big shots in the Empire don't care about the money, they care about control, domination.
I can understand the "improson innocent people for slave labor" part, but the moment you don't even put enough security in there then it's just fricking stupid, a prison break can easily show all the other citizens that fighting back is possible, maybe there's no better way in showing it since a group of people that were in total and complete control of the Empire still managed to escape prison, without even needing a big plan might I add, and this is something that most Imperial would absolutely hate and try everything they can to avoid.
Just because there's an excuse it doesn't mean that it's good, an even if you say "it's realistic" it still manages to present the Empire like a bunch of fricking idiots with zero idea of what they're doing.
I haven't watched Andor but I assumed the innocent people doing slave labor were scoped out because they looked like they would be easily oppressed. any degenerate anon here could probably take Diego Luna in a fight.
*and Andy Serkis
*rapes you in the ass epic style*
nobody can fix you now. and it's kino.
Look how goofy that trooper looks walking up the stairs kek
George was based for them stupid because they LOOK stupid
stormiebros...
I love how there's like a full second where you can tell that the actor on the like was like
>Wait? That's it? That's the strong attack that is supposed to almost knock me out? That fricking silly slap on my face?
>AHH I'M GETTING TOUCHED! SAVE ME VADER SAN!
what utter bs
The absolute state of star wars
>competent imperial troops
Real genocidal empires don't have to be competent. Just look at Israel and Russia, literal stormtrooper-tier antics being committed by their troops under the cover of artillery.
>ruins the stormtroopers completely
They were pathetic since the original trilogy
No they fricking weren't. Watch them again.
Stormtroopers could have been way cooler.
>blaster proof shields
Star Wars creators cringe at that idea.
But they do exist, plus energy shields.
The s*quels had something like that
and that small moment was one of the best parts of the entire trilogy
TR8R lives on in Cinemaphile's hearts.
He's a big guy
Looks good. The tales of the Jedi stuff was enjoyable, especially the Dooku stuff. I'm glad they're making more shorts like this. Would like to see a tales of the Sith next.
>grinky, thrawn, vader, and grievous
I'm in
Man, just like Ahsoka didn't really need those 3 episodes in Season 1 they just had to waste 3 episodes on Morgan huh? Whatever, could be worse, they could've made them about Reva
At least our favourite asthmatic jobber will be showing up.
>actually fighting with his cape on
FINALLY
Looks like a beast, finally Grievous being a threat in a Filoni show
have a nice day, Mousecuck.
>Morgan Elsbeth
Nobody gives a shit about this character Filoni, just fricking stop.
Ill watch the Grevious scene in youtube though, his model looks really good.
You just know the nightsister push is because of kennedy's politics
Don't be moronic
tbh the only thing I care to find about her is how she became a Night Sister without being dathomirian
She is Dathomiri. She is a nightsister because she was born one.
She was born in Dathomir but she's a human. That's what I want to find out
Maybe she was adopted. There are also other clans who live on Dathomir and they may look differently. We see them in the trailer.
That's also a theory I have. I've just been itching to know her exact origin because a human NS is kind of a weird thing.
>Morgan Elsbeth
Literally who?
Exactly. Filoni's still trying to push the Nightsisters.
I tell ya, I love how as widely beloved as TCW is you can really feel the quality drop off that came when Filoni fully took the reins from George and any other assistants.
That's just season 7.
Season 6 wasn't that good either.
Well, let me see
>inhibitor chip arc
>clovis banking arc
>jar jar temple of doom arc
>sifo-dyas episode
>yoda investigation arc
Honestly, it's a stronger season than I had memory. I think the only dud was the Clovis arc, and the Jar Jar arc was somehow decent.
I liked Clovis arc just so I could see Vader going apeshit on him. Best moment is that Clovis tries to mess with him using his off brand echani tai chi and getting his ass dumpstered.
Also Palpatine was probably laughing about his 4d finance takeover plan with a dash of NTR.
Come to think about it, Palpatine knew how to mix business with pleasure, kek
FINALLY we are going to learn what the frick happened to Barriss. I could not believe she wasn't the inquisitor in Ahsoka.
Odds on her showing up on the Dathomir episode? She was present during the massacre by Grevious.
Fairly likely but might not be voiced imo.
Zero. They'll rip the game off like Kenobi did, Morgan is the new Merrin.
Possible, but only as a child in hiding.
>Grievous
Hoping he's not jobbing again.
gonna be watching this for him, vader and grand inquisitor
Calling it now, Vader is going to kill Barriss because her face reminds him of Anakin/Ahsoka.
>Vader is going to kill Barriss because her face reminds him of Anakin/Ahsoka.
You mean finish the job
Alright, what else are they going to make if this series also works out?
>Tales from Mandalore
>Tales from the Rebels
>Tales from the Separatists
>Tales from the Clones
>Tales from Dathomir
>Tales from the Martez Sisters because we really want to use our butch lesbians space latinas
Do a Separatist one just to have an excuse to use that Grevious model more.
I guess a Separatists series would probably focus on Grevious and maybe the Bonteri family
If Mandalore wank is on the table you can bet it will be Mandalore wank.
>tfw I'm old enough to remember the original mando-wank
It's like pottery, it rhymes.
Good
S3: Tales of the Rebellion starring Hera and Wedge
S4: Tales of the Sith starring Palps and Maul
bounty hunters will obviously be about fennec and bane
>Tales from the Clones
I'd love an underworld series about clones drinking at the bar like George originally planned but disney hates anything cool.
>Imperial clones actually acting loyal to it and not having second doubts, add in Appo if you have to shove a character for REMEMBER THAT THING YOU LIKE THAT THING points, or Thire since its confirmed he got promoted and is one of the shock troopers from that scene after Yoda escapes from Palpatine in ROTS
>Clone pilots, literally anything involving them, all the screen time they ever get is to get killed, or to say they are dropping off troops and stuff of the like
>Clones off duty trying to do more human things
>Clones that didnt stick with the Empire living new lives, being bounty hunters, setting up a family, going places, maybe more Cut
Make Grievous cool again
he always was homosexual
Cool Greivous is non-canon. Respect Lucas' vision you bigot.
Real Grievous appreciators admire both Genndy's and Lucas' take on the character.
Frick that I only liked gendy grevious
I love Genndy's Grievous but he was just a Vader knock-off.
Lucas' Grievous is more unique as a character.
Uniquely gay, sure
You think Barris will find out how her master was killed?
She'll do it herself probably. Luminara was executed by the Inquisition.
Maybe they'll show us. She was killed off screen wasn't she?
Barriss bros..... We are so back... 11 years in the making.
>we are going to answer how ventress is alive
>most people assume ToTJ S2
>ToTJ S2 is actually ToTE
>no ventress
ventress spinoff confirmed?
No one's going to watch it so good luck
ToTJ3 is Tales Of The Underworld.
Empire-pandering????
wtf I love Disney now
>Tales of the Empire
>one story about Ahsoka's TCW's ex-friend
>other story about Ahsoka's enemy in the Mandalorianverse
Even when Ahsoka doesn't appear Filoni manages to make everything about her
Cry me a river, Black person. We've been waiting for more Barriss for over a decade.
I hope someone kills her so you can finally shut up
>Filoni killing off his female characters unless its from Ahsoka
Good luck with that.
The opinions of Ahsokagays mean less than nothing
How likely is that she dies in this story? She was never full darkside and we never have seen an inquisitor that could be her in the future. I bet she does a change of heart at the end and Vader kills her.
That would be a waste to just kill her after 11 years of absence. But it's either that, or she goes MIA, again.
Barriss Butt
This is a curled monkey's paw. Barriss was right, but now they'll assassinate her character.
It wouldn't be a Disney Wars tv show if it wasn't centered around all of Filoni's precious OCs.
Ahsoka is Barriss's ex friend.
They literally had one arc together before they made her turn traitor. How are they best friends?
>it's just shorts
Eh, was expecting it to be the third show after CW and Bad Batch.
well we're probably getting a show after bad batch
rex and echo clone shit?
ventress?
who knows
Idk why the don't make a show in this art style about Luke, Leia, and Han running around having adventures post RotJ. I guess they hate printing money.
>rex and echo clone shit?
>ventress?
ENTER
THE ONLY STAR WARS ANIMATED SHOW WITH NEGATIVE VIEWS
>THE ONLY STAR WARS ANIMATED SHOW WITH NEGATIVE VIEWS
nobody cared about pic rel and Visions season 2
>the third show
Didn't watch Rebels? It's a pretty good show but it has a mediocre first season, after that it really starts to pick up the pace
I am so, SO tired of Filonishit
Please tell me they resurrect grevious
Who gives a frick what that fat footlocker has to say?
People who care about kino Star Wars, Trek troony
Blood? In my Star Wars?
She looks good
Who the frick is this?
It's Starkiller.
Never ever. And if it was he would be killed off immediately, as Dave can't abide any real threats to his precious OCs
Luminara maybe? Don't believe we have seen how she died.
Grand inquisitor kino
Thank fricking God it's not the Kenobi design.
God, I still can't believe they made this show and that the general public actually liked it.
I watched the first episode and noped out right after
The true stunner of terrible for me was book of boba fett. Kenobi was bad but at least it didn't have a two episodes of a different show hastily glued to it so they could bring back a character for marketing reasons.
I didn't bother with Book of Boba Fett at all, but at least that show had people and critics saying it was bad from the start.
Kenobi got a ton of love across the board just for muh Ewan and muh Hayden even though 90% of it was utter crap
Yeah, good point, I forgot how much people loved that show when it first came out despite the nonsense it had in it.
No idea but I'm assuming they're just lazy. I heard arguments about it being able him needing to be more mobile but he doesn't actually do much other then get stabbed and have some of the most unintentionally funny line delivery in a tv show.
Youtube reaction channels shilling for "current thing" don't count as people
>Kenobi got a ton of love across the board
>62% avg audience score
i think we have different definitions of across the board love
This is what I get for going off anecdotal evidence.
At any rate, I think the point is that most normies were FINE with Kenobi as it was caming out, which is something that RT rating backs up. They didn't think it was great, but they didn't think it was terrible either. The biggest thing that people disliked at the time was the focus on Baby Leia and Reva. From what I've seen, it's really only after the fact that normies started to realise just how thoroughly crap the show was in other aspects as well.
>and that the general public actually liked it
What? Where did you get that? Literally everyone everywhere shits on it. People liked Hayden flashback and the final duel with Vader, but even that was poorly choreographed and poorly directed shit that stole its emotional climax from Rebels bit by bit.
The frick is this Benny Hill shit? Is this an abridged parody?
I'm going off the reaction I saw on normie sites at the time and that of my own family, who watched Kenobi, liked it, and thought I was being a silly snob when I told them why I didn't bother with anything past the first episode.
I think the general audience seems to be more critical of it now in retrospect, but at the time most normies seemed to like it, at the very least. IIRC it was certainly one of the bigger Star Wars shows so far in terms of numbers.
Disney's just low effort.
At least when Cad Bane looked like crap in Book of Boba Fett, they had the (still lazy) excuse that the original Duros design from ANH was just a static mask. But there's absolutely no good fricking reason for the Grand Inquisitor to look as cheap as he did.
Somebody said that girl was 10 and I was like she looks 8. Puberty is going to hit her like a runaway train.
Hang on, didn't these guys look like this in the prequels? The frick happened?
Budget cuts, presumably. A streaming show with several episodes can't have the same amount of budget as a two hour theatrical release. You'll notice 90% of the aliens in the Disney+ shows are reused from the last five movies.
It's insane how cheap Disney goes when I've seen the shit Halo S2 put out and wonder why Star Wars productions are unwilling to put in the same effort.
Oh FRICK OFF, the Halo show looked like shit.
You lose this one, Disneygay. Star Wars live action series battle sequences suck complete ass.
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You're fricking with me right
Imagine bringing up the Halo show as a positive counterpoint to anything.
>Bringing up the Halo show like it's a good thing
Weird complaint but once you notice it you can't stop. Costumes and make up has gotten really bad in Hollywood lately. Look at the Rings of Power one of the biggest budget shows ever, plenty of bad costume looks. The Aragorn actor in the Lord of the Rings would wear his costumes on hikes to give them a realistic worn look as he was a ranger. Meanwhile costumes now look cheap and no one goes the extra mile.
Kenobi's budget is blown entirely on the fights. everything else is cheap af.
Theyre still meant to look like this. OWK is just a very lazy show
It's a shame Jedi Survivor botches it's launch so hard. Playing it for the first time right now and it's pretty amazing, though I didn't expect the High Republic heel turn to happen so quick
It's good but it makes me laugh how the edgelord goes ahh im so evil I must now turn my yellow lightsaber red
Man, i already knew a lot of modern live action Star Wars was a mistake but it sucks that games are nailing things like the Pauns and High Republic aesthetic while shit like OWK and The Acolyte just seem to sludgify any interesting designs. Do any of The Acolyte characters have any of those cool robe designs from the books or JS at all?
No. They just look like yellow/cream jedi robes.
>don't know anything about the show
>see the toys
>only one alien character, and she barely looks alien
At least Mr. killmonger-cut has some of those gauntlets that seem to pop in some of the book covers
Grand Inquisitor is a b***h. He got punked on by Jocasta Nu ffs.
He really did but he has a cool design and an awesome VA so he gets a pass.
Yeah I mean, most Inquisitors are at best Jedi Knight level, the Grand Inquisitor is probably not even Jedi Master level, but who cares? He's cool
Midwit, Jocasta Nu was a seasoned warrior so powerful that she requested to be the Caretaker of the Archives so she'd stop just killing people as she walked past. Even Mace Windu feared her fighting prowess and her ease with handling circumstances with unspeakable violence.
And did they decide this before or after the comic?
It's me being facetious, but I'm 99% sure someone at Lucasfilm saw ancient-ass Jocasta in the library and thought that back in the day she'd be a stone-cold killmonger and had to get talked down into sense and reason.
>jobbed to Cad Bane in season 2
In fairness, so did Anakin
Didn't her and Dooku have a thing? One of the deleted scenes for AotC has her gushing about how cool and handsome he is while caressing his statue.
oh lmao I thought you were joking
she def jerks off to Dooku exploring her archives
One of the newer books has a scene with them together. She tells him that she hasn't seen him around the archives in a while, and he said that his "interests" change from time to time. She frowned at this. Dooku's a player.
remember when star wars or western animation in general was allowed to have straight white male heroes?
stfu homosexual
>race traitor
Keep trying.
Kanan's latino. He's space cuban.
He's literally FPJ.
Exactly. He's latino.
Latino isn't a race. Some LatAm countries such as Argentina, Cuba, Costa Rica, and Chile had a higher rate of Euro immigration and lower rate of them mixing with the natives and african slaves. So while cubans aren't WASPs, most are white, and space cuban counts as space white.
Kanan is a straight, white male.
>Latino isn't a race
Yes it is.
>Kanan is a straight, white male.
They made him latino after FPJ, who is of cuban descent.
this is a white man
Sorry, anon. That is 100% Hispanic.
Rebels was 10 years ago anon.
Rebels is a cartoon for literal 7 year olds. I'm good with A New Dawn, but I ain't bothering with the baby show. Just wish there were more shit with Kanan and Hera that wasn't isolated to the kiddy crap.
Jesus fricking christ, do you "anti-woke" homosexuals ever stop crying? You are so much more annoying than the woke ever were.
Huh?
gingers aren’t human
Is this the excuse they're using to justify the race-swap in every media?
>that one Story Timer accidentally willed this into existence
Talk about a monkey's paw
Sexo. Also, ES-troopers from Bad Batch S1 are back.
Army or not, you must realize...your thread is doomed
>prease like my one-dimensional already dead nightwitch character
Poor, poor Filoni.
No one cares about Andor. Frick off to Wrong board
I care
>marrok
>dude from tales of the jedi
Trailer bait. I reckon the same thing will happen with Grievous. Expect maybe 30 seconds - 1 minute for his appearance.
I will never understand the random mix of Inquisitors with masks and those without. Logically, it would've made sense to wear masks so Vader doesn't get triggered by them for being former Jedi.
Masks are cool, that's it
>dude from tales of the jedi
Sixth Brother, anon.
>See video called Tales of the Empire
>Oh shit it'll be about standard stormtroopers or officers doing Imperial things and shooting things with star destroyers and tie fighters
>Nope it's just about the inquisitors because aren't force users cool????
I just want an actual show from the day-to-day empire's perspective
You got Andor and it was horribly written shit.
>It was horribly written shit
Explain in detail what it was missing
Andor's problem is that it feels like nothing was thought out. Since Cinemaphile has a character limit and I'm not about to sit here explain why every part of this show is awful. We will instead take the titular character as the perfect example, He's always called the worst part of the show by people who like the show anyway. I think that if your titular character is the worst part that in of itself is a sign of its quality, but I'm going to briefly go into why he is bad.
Cassian's arc in Rogue One is "I was wrong, I care about someone who isn't me." He realizes that he can be part of something bigger, doesn't need to keep running, and can do something with his life. Its a great character arc, but it is one that can not happen until Rogue One. With where they set Cassian he's basically been the guy he was at the start of Rogue One since he was child, as such he can't move as a character until Rogue One. He's not allowed to evolve past a certain point and is basically a plot device through the whole show. He goes where the story needs him to go in order to be a tool for other characters. Its not a compelling or interesting person in the slightest. If your titular character is the worst part of your show you do not have a good show.
>the post that BFTO andorgays
Its hilarious how that post got completely ignored by the Andorcucks.
These threads are insufferable. It's just people b***hing 24/7.
Welcome to the Star Wars fandom
I was looking through the archives, /swco/ threads during the 2014-2018 era. The threads were so good. Discussions, OC, drawgays, memes. Now it's just non-stop seething.
/swco/ was comfy though the Star Wars general on /tg/ is a more more chilled
>more chilled
Most of the time I see Lucasautist arguing which is canon or not
>TLJ Release: Dec 2017
The complete lack of excitement for these new shows proves Star Wars is dead.
The best option now would be to just finish the ongoing stuff and let the franchise rest for a decade.
No, it proves only what insufferable whiney homosexuals you are
It's not just here. I'm also tired of this, I wanna discuss the bad batch episodes but the threads always devolve into complaining.
Who is this Glup Shitto that beat Aayla Secura? I watched TCW and Rebels a few months ago and don't recognize her at all
Mascot of /swco/
She's a Jedi Doctor in the Yoda Lost Missiones Arc where Yoda goes to Dagobah, talks with Qui-Gon and sees the future where the Jedi fall.
>Barriss
Holy shit what year is it
Star wars is for girls.
Why should I care about this?
so you can pull a baddie that touches herself to Grievous' labored breathing
Their fault for making him so molestable
>Implying I already don't
sauce?
https://e621.net/posts/2194609?q=general_grievous
Finally, a straight male hero
Could they have found a more boring character to center a show around? Why do they keep doing this? First Resistance then Bad Batch then Tales of the Jedi which was nothing but orange girl wank now this? Is there some grand shortage of interesting Star Wars characters I am unaware of?
Well, they ruined OT characters with the sequels, the prequels are long over and the sequel characters are completely worthless. Milking TCW nostalgia is the only thing left now.
>Grievous
>Empire
Clearly a flashback for one of the characters, anon
Its ok to admit when you're wrong and/or you said something really stupid, you stunted child.
Good job, you still didn't say anything to prove that my point is wrong, go on and post the screencap on Reddit so that you can get your gold or whatever
Also it was already explained to you why their were fewer guards, you're just moronic. Maybe adult shows are a little above your head.
>Also it was already explained to you why their were fewer guards
Yes and the reason is still fricking shit, have a nice day you pathetic worm
Seething moron mad that his brain can't understand things like the other kids in his class can 🙁
>Nobody would ever try to invade this base so we didn't put enough security in there
lol, what a shitty reason, disney star wars is so fricking bad oh my god kek
>Nobody would ever try to escape this prison so we didn't put enough guards in there
Such clever writing... maybe Star Wars truly is back, this is the best piece of Star Wars media since the OG Trilogy...
That literally isn't even the reason, lmao. Your moronicness becomes more acute wirh every post you make kek
>lmao you're so fricking wrong you're embarassing
>huh? correct you with the actual facts? nah
Go on Anon, give me the facts straight, why weren't enough guards there?
Naw, its funnier to watch you flail impotently making yourself look moronic. have a nice day, speedwatcher.
>he unironically said "huh? correct you with the actual facts? nah"
At least I now know that you're either trolling or you suffer from down syndrome
bros i love barriss so much she was my zoomer crush when i was like 12 if she dies i'm going to kill myself
>GRIEVOUS GRIEVOUS GRIEVOUS
>I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW GRIEVOUS
That's all it took for you homosexuals? Some asshat probably relayed to the corpos that
>"The Internet seems to really like Grievous in the 2003 cartoon"
And now they're doing it to try and farm some positive reception, and you gays bit the bait harder than a Rabbi biting a kid's dick.
Also
>Defending Filoni
>in 2024
Even normalhomosexuals have started to notice Filoni's garbage. He's a symbol of the last nail in the Star Wars coffin
Empire at War was the last Star Wars product released, everything after it, is fan fiction.
Every single review I've ever seen or heard about Andor can be summarized in "it uses pretty much every single trope they use in other Star Wars show but they also use big words in it so it's kino"
>The Empire has rarely been shown thinking about the money...they care about control, domination.
Star Wars is a space fantasy, economics isn't going to be the focus as it is in other works like Dune. But Lucas did create SW as an allegory of the Vietnam War, and is on record saying he based the Empire on both the US Empire and Nazi Germany. Economics was/is the driving force behind both states and their actions, and this logic carried over into SW's Empire.
The Empire is about control and domination, yes, and that's why it does care about money: that is what allows them to have control and domination. A big stick is acquired through economic might, that's how military bases, troops, weapons, equipment, etc., are funded.
>but the moment you don't even put enough security in there then it's just fricking stupid
Yes, empires hate looking weak and stupid, but they're also staffed by the weak and stupid. Like lmao, both Nazi Germany and the US military were and are mostly staffed by fricking idiots with zero idea of what they're doing. You have maybe 10-15% of the force being somewhat competent at their job and keeping things from falling apart, but there's not enough of them to provide full coverage of things.
So some dipshit colonel stuck overseeing the slave labor camps would 100% be struck by the good idea fairy and have the genius idea of cutting staff and relying on tech to keep the prisoners in line. Dude was probably jacking off to the thought of being able to add some variation of
>Demonstrated leadership in decision-making by prioritizing cost-effective solutions and reducing reliance on manpower >Successfully implemented automated processes resulting in significant cost savings within the unit
>Implemented staffing reductions through automation while maintaining operational effectiveness and readiness
>Generated financial savings by reducing overhead costs associated with staffing while enhancing overall productivity
to his OER.
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While I might not agree with a couple of your points I do think you're giving me quite the good argument here, I just think that if we really want to focus about the economics the show didn't really do a good part in showing it, and we could also say that it was just about a "dipshit colonel" who didn't actually know shit about his job, unfortunately realistis as all those points might be it still doesn't do what most people say that Andor does, it doesn't make the Empire look all that menacing, like, yeah, they're full of crazy bastards alright, but they're also incompetent people that have their heads shoved so far up their own ass that they can't do anything right.
If this happened like once or twice we could maybe let these mistakes go, but since this canonically happened after like 10 other stupid mistakes it really stinks, it's like they never learn.
Of course I'm not going to say that not having enough guards in a prison isn't on the same level of not having enough security in the fricking Fortress Inquisitorum, but man, I just want the Empire to look competent and Andor as a show doesn't really help them
is on the same level*
It's amazing how much Andor made prequel redditors seethe.
Pretty based of Filoni to force Barris back into the plot, so Star Wars Jedi: 3 has a final boss. :^)
No, she'll obviously come back in Ahsoka S2.
I have only ever seen episodes 1 to 6. Can I follow any of these new shows if I never saw any of the stuff that came out in the past 15 years?
Honestly, no. You gotta have your homework done for these so that things make any sense.
Mando is watchable, both in terms of not needing context and being halfway decent.
>I have only ever seen episodes 1 to 6.
That's all you need to know. The shows don't really affect the movie experience that much. I prefer the Skywalker stuff to end at return of the jedi.
>And he was a good friend.
Barris is 100% going down oen of three paths
>Being killed by Ahsoka
>Being killed by Vader/Grinky
>Turning face because Disney hates the idea of Imperial loyalists as protagonists
Barriss defecting actually makes sense, though. She was against what the Republic had become and the fact that the Jedi had fallen from their path. She was not pro-Empire in any way at all. I see her being forced to be an Inquisitor to survive, or being tortured into doing it, like the Poo chick from Jedi Fallen Order, but I do not see her actually committing to it all the way through, and there's gonna be something that she'll refuse to do, and either get killed by Vader or escape.
>She was against what the Republic had become and the fact that the Jedi had fallen from their path
Dooku left the Jedi because he saw how much of a horrible state the Republic was, then went on to become a cartoon villain.
She'll be killed off. The entire idea of her becoming an Inquisitor is goofy anyways, and flanderizes her character and the reason she did what she did.
>it doesn't make the Empire look all that menacing, like, yeah, they're full of crazy bastards alright, but they're also incompetent people that have their heads shoved so far up their own ass that they can't do anything right.
I get where you're coming from, but imo that is what makes them menacing. A highly professional, disciplined, hypercompetent military is less of a threat to the average citizen than one that's staffed by a few smarties and a bunch of knuckle draggers backed by the logistical and industrial might of a galaxy-wide space faring empire.
It also provides the motivation for a massive rebellion to exist, as the brutality, the barbarity, and the senselessness of it all makes it completely understandable why people would risk everything to get rid of the imperial machine.
A professional leaves you alone so long as you pay your reasonably priced taxes; a knuckle dragger squeezes you until you're desperate, then finds any excuse to break your kneecaps and drag you off to prison. A professional sweeps a village for insurgents, executes them, and leaves everyone else alone; a knuckle dragger finds insurgents, razes a village to the ground in retaliation, rapes its people, executes them, and creates twenty more insurgents.
>but man, I just want the Empire to look competent and Andor as a show doesn't really help them
I get the sentiment, but I mean this as kindly as possible when I say that you're a fan of the wrong franchise if that's what you want.
From the start only certain individuals were shown to be competent, while the wider force was always pretty damn dumb. SW will never portray a hypercompetant Empire. It goes against the allegory, it goes against the larger themes, and it doesn't serve the plot.
Andor's portrayal of the Empire keeps with the spirit of the OT, and it's competency is pretty damn accurate to the way irl militaries are.
I'm not saying you have to like it, but at least understand why people say Andor's Empire is scary.
Frick me I did it again
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>you're a fan of the wrong franchise if that's what you want
NTA but I've come to terms this is me. But the issue is that I just can't find another space sci-fi franchise that catters to my tastes. Star Wars hooks me with the ocasional good entries and then never tries to do the same thing.
The problem is that if you commit to that route the empire loses all relevance to the audience unless the writers keep throwing new vaders at us every 5 seconds.
If your target audience is suburban twelve old ipad kids in the imperial core, sure, you might have a point. The rest of us find that Andor's Empire doing evil shit that's a much closer analogue to evil shit irl empires have done and are doing in the world right now to be very relevant and engaging
I'd kill for an adaptation of Catch-22 with imperial tie fighter pilots
>Barriss doesn't like the Jedi involvement in the Clone Wars nor the state of the Jedi Order and the Republic at large
>thinks they're becoming like the Sith
>he solution, therefore, is to bomb the fricking Jedi Temple, kill a ton of fellow Jedi at random and civilians
>and to top it off, pin the whole thing on her best friend
Was she always a little crazy? It feels weird that she could just have this mindset in less than a year.
Using the Dark Side does have an effect on your decision making abilities. Anakin pointing out her keeping Ventress' lightsabers intentionally showed she was becoming a hypocrite.
I mean, she's a child soldier raised by a religious cult, I can buy her going off the deep end in less than a year. Also, what
said
She bombed a military hangar specifically. Military hangar as a representation of everything wrong with the Jedi, who for some reason have soldiers and machines of death and destruction in the holy place of knowledge, life and serenity. It was a valid target and symbolically made sense. And she did not intend for the Jedi to die, as she was sad that some were killed in the blast, namely some guy who taught her lightsaber combat. She tried to probe Ahsoka on how she felt about it, but it was clear that Ahsoka wanted the harshest punishment for whoever did this and she was not interested in the deeper issue surrounding the Jedi and the Republic, so the hope that she would understand swiftly disappeared, so she decided to throw her under the bus, either out of disappointment or resentment. She was right in her beliefs, but she let emotions cloud her judgement, and you could say that she lashed out in the only way that the Jedi acted in that period — through war and violence. She was clearly not happy with herself, she was visibly upset, and the fact that she admitted that Ventress' lightsabers - lightsabers of a war criminal and a murderer - "suit her", was this bitter realization of what she had become. It's not hard to see how she developed these sentiments, given that her master was Luminara, a very strict and by-the-book no attachment "perfect" Jedi, as opposed to Ahsoka, who had a very different relationship with Anakin. It was telling that Anakin came to visit Ahsoka after the Geonosis incident, and Luminara didn't. There must be a cognitive dissonance between what the Jedi are supposed to be, and what they actually do, what the people actually think of you, and what you feel as a person and how you wrestle with your feelings. She's a complex and interesting character, I am interested to see how her story goes.
The writing is lame, that's it.
It's a much less severe version of the utter nonsense in RotS where Anakin keeps going on about the Jedi plotting to overthrow the Republic and take power and kill people extrajudicially, so he then immediately helps overthrow the Republic and take power and kill endless people extrajudicially
We are so back.
I hope Barriss gets her neck snapped by Vader early on just so I never have to hear a Barrissgay's shitty opinion again.
Barriss will get her own spinoff series after Bad Batch finishes and you will like it. It'll be called Star Wars: The Inquisitor.
>Barriss will get her own spinoff series after Bad Batch finishes and you will like it. It'll be called Star Wars: The Inquisitor.
I unironically would like it.
>a Barrissgay's shitty opinion again.
10 years and swco is still living in people's heads, rent free
>finally make a show from the empires point of view
>the protagonist could be Vader or Palpatine or some random stormtrooper
>It's actually girlboss number 412
for fricks sake
>>It's actually girlboss number 412
She got spanked by Vader and whined like a b***h
I cant wait for Barriss to die so I can laugh at Barrissgays they have been annoying for 11 years
I'll be GLAD if she dies. Her story gets closure and she isn't shoved into a shitty live action show as a cameo.
I don't want characters to end up undead like Ahsoka did.
do barrissgays actually think she is getting out of this alive?
No I don't. Any true fan of an existing character hopes they die off screen in a way that Disney won't attempt to use them.
TotJ was kind of a waste of time (even the Dooku stuff) so I don't expect much from this.
>Grievous is getting used again
>but Filoni's in charge again
DISNEYWARS IS GOOD AND EUgayS CAN'T DEAL WITH IT
So they're finally gonna admit Seventh Sister was Barriss all along? Now all that's left is confirming Draven is Kallus.
Looks nothing like her. Barriss either dies or defects.
>we have ventress at home
would frick regardless
When she fights Ahsoka neither of them say anything to each other, so no
Doesn't mean anything to them. Leia and Obi-Wan went on a grand adventure when she was younger but she didn't know him a decade later.
>oh also Barriss Offee
oh my fricking god, finally
I wonder what happened to Ahsoka in Legends? Died in Order 66? Slain by Vader or the Emperors hands?
Nothing happened to her after her leaving the Jedi Order in Legends because the Disney buyout took place shortly after and removed said Legends.
Disney buyout happened right after she left the Order so she didn't have anything in Legends
The only guess you can make is the original ending of Clone Wars had Ahsoka fighting Vader at the end of the Siege of Mandalore arc with her fate being left ambiguous like the end of Rebels S2. While working on TCW Filoni sketched a scenario where she went back to the Jedi Temple after Knightfall and was confronted by Vader, so I think some of the Malachor stuff was lifted from the original finale of TCW, the underground Sith Temple was also from an unproduced arc. So if she learned about Anakin being Vader that soon and vanished after their duel she probably just stayed in hiding. We'll never know if George would've eventually used her in the live action Underworld series he was working on in tandem with TCW. I doubt it. But had they written more scripts she could've found her way into one much like how TCW slowly introduced more and more familiar characters like Maul. Quinlan Vos also seemed like a character Lucas kept on the shelf for a potential Underworld appearance. Given he told Dark Horse not kill off Vos in Order 66.
>We'll never know if George would've eventually used her in the live action Underworld series he was working on in tandem with TCW
He wanted to kill her off.
There was some back and forth about that between Lucas and Filoni but I doubt she would've been killed. People like to grab onto that but Ahsoka was basically the main character of the show. I think the ending she had in Twilight of the Apprentice is more or less what they would've done with her if Clone Wars had been finished under Lucas. Vader would've thought he killed her, maybe it would've been a bit ambiguous to the audience too, but it would've have been that clear. And then it's quite possible we'd never see her again anyway. Even if she'd lived, I think her story in SW would've been over. Filoni putting her in Rebels and all this other stuff is more because he never got to finish her story in Clone Wars, so now she's all over the timeline.
But I would've preferred Vader thinking he killed Ahsoka at the end of Clone Wars, some mystical connection to the Daughter keeping her alive and then her going off into hiding for the rest of her life becoming a guardian of some backwater planet maybe. Sort of like Ventress' fate in the EU where she faked her death and we never heard from her again.
Nah, frick that. Kill her off. If Vader can fricking die in the last movie of the Skywalker Saga, then she can die at the end of her show. People need to learn how to let go of things.
Dammit, I wish somebody would adapt the original plans and even much of TCW into written form as a fanfic or whatever. That or a fancomic. Cut out all the kiddy crap and actually delve into the shit that the cartoon flirted with and couldn't commit to on account of it still being a kid's show. Ending it with Vader killing Ahsoka would've been the perfect ending to it all.
In terms of worldbuilding this seemed like one of the most important arcs so it sucks it never got made.
>plo koon
i'd read that if it wasn't in whatever germanic or scandinavian language that is
If no-one else is gonna say it, I will. I'm real fricking sick of the "Clone Wars" style. It's bad enough to have Filioni's pet characters be shoved down our throats, but would it kill them to make an in-house animated show that isn't using the same ugly artstyle from 15 fricking years ago?
>Hate the style.
>Hate the Filoni shit on repeat.
>Star Wars galaxy feels tiny and boring.
Simple as
They tried with Resistance and Visions
In-house anon. Neither Resistance nor Visions were in-house
You got that with Rebels and you wouldn't stop b***hing.
lol Rebels style wasn't much different, just TCW but cheaper looking
I've got a bad feeling that they'll make Vader say some quipy shit to Bariss.
I hope not. He's best used briefly and his scene at the end of clone wars was so kino because it proved you don't need him monologuing or doing anything for it to be impactful.
Yeah, they've been so desperate to make him cool again in most of his appearances post-buyout that it kind of got overdone. Not that the old EU didn't overplay that either. His appearances in Rebels were actually fairly restrained in comparison, at least from what I caught. And when he says shit like "Revenge is not the Jedi way," it works on more levels than just being a one liner.
>His appearances in Rebels were actually fairly restrained in comparison, at least from what I caught. And when he says shit like "Revenge is not the Jedi way," it works on more levels than just being a one liner.
It was so good but it would've been better if they killed Ahsoka off.
Probably will say something like that lightsabre suits you.
I also think its kinda funny how they age the characters like last we saw Bariss she looked like she was 13 now she looks like shes 18 but only maybe 1 year has passed.
Barriss was 14 or 15 at the time she and Ahsoka got stuck in that tank and shared their first kiss, she was a full Knight and at least 18-19 by the time she realized that the Jedi were fighting for the Dark Side.
I know they probably won't, but I hope they eventually adapt this comic. Without it there's just a big gap between when Maul gets captured by the emperor and then he's back to ruling Mandalore.
Watch the trailer and get hyped, its happening.
is it gonna center around maul? it doesn't seem like it.
>i want them to adapt this comic
>wtf no don't adapt it
It's amazing how terrible ur reading comprehension is.
>moron who doesn't understand what he himself wrote also can not spell
Star Wars will bring back every character under the sun before they acknowledge Mace Windu again
AT LAST! HONEY GET YOUR SON IN HERE, I SAW DARTH VADER AND MY FAVORITE MORGAN ELSBETH
>there are now people who like the high republic
Grim
I like it as a storytelling tool for JS, never bothered reading anything else from that era
I tried reading the books and was bored. I like the visual style of that golden era gold everything look but it's just a diet KOTOR.
Yeah, I gave the first book a shot and gave up after slogging halfway through. Nothing really happens, and it spent way too much time desperately trying to establish a massive cast of thoroughly uninteresting characters. There's not been anything else I've seen out of the era that's convinced me it's worthwhile.
To me it's just alright. It's not atrocious like people who haven't read any of it make it out to be but it's not as gripping as say Knights of the Old Republic or Tales of the Jedi either. But I've only read Light of the Jedi which like you I thought was more of a broad scope set up novel, it didn't really explore any one character for long enough to get you super invested. And the comics are okay but because there's so much interconnectivity with the books and stuff you feel like you're missing tons of stories as you read it, they're not very self contained.
It seems the people who really like High Republic are ones that consume nearly all of the media but that shouldn't be an entry level requirement. Plus most people aren't going to do that so it keeps it niche.
>It seems the people who really like High Republic are ones that consume nearly all of the media
You can say this for pretty much all of Disney Star Wars, honestly.
True I guess you just have to be more into reading a lot of books. I prefer more standalone SW novels. High Republic is more of a package deal.
>high republic
Lightsabers as mood rings
Literally the best character.
the writing is on the wall for son of dathomir
grievous in the trailer cant be the grievous in the tcw episode "massacre" because he has his late clone wars design, cape, and has all 4 arms (ventress cut one off in their duel)
the only other time grievous went to dathomir was during son of dathomir, but there were no nightsisters in that
dave is going to retcon son of dathomir.
It's just a retake of the massacre episode. Remember how Obi Wan had long hair in Tales of the Jedi despite having short hair in TCW and young Ahsoka's clothes being different too?
doesnt matter, he still got his arm cut off
this would he retconning TCW, which is even worse
>machine man can't put on another arm
What?
show me where in massacre he put on a new arm
oh wait: he fricking didnt
>retcon
is it disneywars?
My ideal empire show would be about troopers or veterans
he's CANON
I hope not. Starkiller sucks.
>You could limit all future Star Wars storytelling to just this animation medium, and I would never complain. This style has come so far since 2008
Hoylshit do stargays really?
Why is Grievous' mask cracked? Something in the episode or was it from the Talzin fight in Son of Dathomir?
coughed too hard
>"Tale of the Empire"
>it's about Ahsoka's friend in TCW and Ahsoka's enemy in the live action show
Typical Filoni trash.
Don't be mean. Ahsoka is practically Dave's daughter.
I like to think Barris was raped in prison
if grievous's origin story is shown, and it depicts the hypocrisy of the empire never interfering when grievous's planet was invade, i would by hyped
>it's just grievous as character, probably a mook to be killed off again
>only two stories, not two seasons or movies
nevermind, it's probably shit
>Dooku and Qui-Gon both helped Kalee in the past tying into S1
>Grievous' world was burning since he was a child like Morgan on Dathomir
I think if there's another season they should do one about his backstory. They've more or less alluded to it being mostly still canon anyway.
Is any of the animated stuff actually good? Or does the animation and style hard-carry them to a fault? All style, little to no substance.
The animated stuff is not only good, its better than the live action.
Frick no.
Just read the Medstar books.