There are plenty of morons here. Plenty of people on Cinemaphile love Lobdell.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I liked it. A good zombie action comedy.
Wouldn't necessarily recommend it for newbies. Big cast and multiple factions, very little exposition, plot twists. It's not super accessible for a casual to process, but it's not Morrison-level dense either.
The emotional bits were good too. But Jason isn't a paragon, he doesn't come out as a knight in shining armor or as a feel-good comeback story, and lots of DC fans just don't enjoy that messy kind.
It's like literally one anon who likes Lobdell. Maybe two. That anon types the same every time. Lobdell is not that popular among Jasonfans. Some enjoy what he did for what it was, many more loudly denounce everything he's ever written. But only a neglible percent want more Lobdell.
Rosenberg jerking himself off by having Jason beat everyone up
>Rosenberg jerking himself off by having Jason beat everyone up
Nightwing still won that fight. And he came out of it as flawlessly pretty and righteous as always, while Jason got exhausted and bruised just trying to escape him and Cass. Yet somehow the Nightwing fans are still mad about Jason not being humiliated enough.
since i don't know a better place to ask, what should i read after Red Hood: Outlaw (2018—2021)?
is the webtoon set before or after this?
8 months ago
Anonymous
For the love of god don't read the webtoon. If the WFA tumblr crowd hates it, it has zero redeeming qualities.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Red Hood: Outlaw (2018—2021)?
thats basically the end of the Outlaws for now
Artemis, despite being a fan favorite, was relegated to being Diana's b***h in a couple of issues
she basically did frick all from infinite frontier to now
8 months ago
Anonymous
>webtoon
OH NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAH OH NO NO NO NO AAAHAHAHAH
8 months ago
Anonymous
wait, Jason is a canon cuckold? or is it his daughter? i don't get it
8 months ago
Anonymous
The webcomic writers really hated Jason huh.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Hate or indifference, they clearly didn't understood the assignement. Worst is they had absolute freedom with this AU and that rare freedom resulted into a weaker version of rebirth rhato first arc and shipperfest. It's an absolute waste of space. I wouldn't want to read anything else from the people who worked on this, including the artists.
8 months ago
Anonymous
At this point is clear the writer was making stuff specifically pandering to the tumblr crowd.
They are the only ones I've seen so fixated in that damn line
8 months ago
Anonymous
Tumblr abandon ship a few chapters in after Jason was made out to be the "angry" Robin
8 months ago
Anonymous
so whose the kid? artemis and?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Just bothered to read the last comic and this makes the relationship feel really weird. She looks about 15 and I think Jason is roughly early 20s I think he should be late 20s but that's a different problem, the idea that your partner had a child when you were 7 is a gross relationship.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Isn't Artemis a near-immortal amazon? She is significantly older than Jason from the get-go
8 months ago
Anonymous
It's more about bringing attention to it, not to mention as a final chapter stinger it's just going to fester there with no context.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Is really frustrating how they squandered so much potential in the webtoon. The premise was good enough to carry the whole thing, why drail everything with the moronic Simulation twist?
Or the moronic new costume and logo
8 months ago
Anonymous
webtoon readers are an entire different crowd
the series was well received on there
8 months ago
Anonymous
Not really, The rating tanked after the twist and you often said comments criticizing the direction in every chapter
8 months ago
Anonymous
>the moronic Simulation twist?
Elaborate on this.
8 months ago
Anonymous
The premise of the series is that the JL had to leave Earth for three months and so Bruce, made a deal with Jason, he and the outlaws would be in charge of keeping Earth safe until the return of the JL. If they could accomplish it, then Bruce would stop giving shit to Jason and accept that his methods work. If they failed, Bruce would pull his influences and leave Jason to fend for himself.
We then spent like 20 episodes seeing the Outlaws deal with a bunch of random baddies like Medusa, an alternate universe Mirror Master looking for his husband, and Luthor being Luthor.
Luthor manages to split the Outlaws causing Jason to lose his shit and essentially do the same shit he did to Penguin during Rebirth. But just after shooting Luthor in the head, is revealed that everything we saw was just a computer simulation that Bruce put them into since he was sure Jason would fail. We are treated with a montage dealing differently with the same baddies we saw fighting the Outlaws and then Bruce wakes up Jason (who has now the white streak for some reason) and kicks him out of the family, while bounty hunters from all the universe siege the Watchtower to collect the bounty on the Outlaws.
8 months ago
Anonymous
is the writer mentally ill?
8 months ago
Anonymous
All comic writers are.
8 months ago
Anonymous
yes
8 months ago
Anonymous
Nah, the writer is just a no-name wannabe screenwriter. He tried to cram a lot of action and drama into a weak story. Kind of like a CW show. He didn't hurt anyone, but WFA is the only successful DC webtoon out of four because for some reason the Big Two are allergic to competent collaboration, sensible marketing, and overall decent storytelling right now.
I could put together a team of fan fiction fangirls to write an unironically better story. Which actually is what Wayne Family Adventures did.
8 months ago
Anonymous
and in outlaws she says she only ever let three people get close to her
two of those are women and the other is Jason
8 months ago
Anonymous
me thinks the writer is a single mother
8 months ago
Anonymous
Jasonbros.. there is still hope to have another kid down the line...
Meh. It has a better portrayal for Jason than 3J or SSgetJoker, or Joker did, but that not saying much. The zombie team concept surprisingly fit him though, and the batfam fight delivered some shitpost material.
The concept would had been much better is it wasn't tied to mainline comics ans uspposed to fit in there somehow.
I didn't really understand a lot of what was going on and why characters were doing what they were doing. The premise is fine enough and like says the twins were hot.
It didn't have anything I didn't like but there wasn't much I did.
I dunno guess I thought the concept was so dumb it was a elseworld type of thing?
Also didn't know Bane was DEAD DEAD for this long thought he'd be brought back by now.
Well, this is spoilers for two books, Task Force Z and Tynion's Joker, but it turns out Bane never actually died in A-Day, he faked his death and shows up in Joker as one of the many people who want the clown dead, the "Bane" in Task Force Z is actually Gotham Girl's brother with fake memories and a Bane costume.
Jason has way too many daddy issues with Batman for the couple years he spent with Bruce. What was it, 4 years of comics from Jason's intro to his death? Jason spent more years with Talia than he did with Bruce. These daddy issues are cringe as frick.
>Jason has way too many daddy issues with Batman for the couple years he spent with Bruce.
I agree it's scring and nonsensical, but that is his role and character now because it makes Bruce look important. > Jason spent more years with Talia than he did with Bruce.
No, and half the time he spent with Talia was when he was braindead. Jason spent most of his life alone, or with shit adult figures.
>an authority figure
I disagree, and Batman is more of an authoritarian figure anyway.
[...]
since i don't know a better place to ask, what should i read after Red Hood: Outlaw (2018—2021)?
is the webtoon set before or after this?
>is the webtoon set before or after this?
The webtoon is its own thing and is not linked to the comics. I wouldn't say it's worth a read but you do you.
you forgot >hating the crowbars because they are muh edgy >hating the hood >hating the jacket >hating when batman appear >hating when batman doesn't appear
probably the whiniest b***h boys among fans
The fact that interactions like this can happen shows how far Bats' characterization has skewed from BTAS where he actively had empathy for people like Freeze, Dent and Baby-Doll, and wanted to help them get better.
>BTAS
That's a shit point of reference since that's a completely different version of the character but I do agree with your basic argument. Batman can be all over the place but this is always the wrong end of the spectrum to be at. Especially with Two Face. Also I hate the tug and pull with Jason. I haven't been keeping up with Batshit since King's run but I prefer Jason just be accepted by the overall Batfamily.
A book so bad Rosenberg gave an interview to Polygon basically calling it editorial driven crap, that he had to write to get his Grilfter/WildCats book launched
No it isn’t, no one even bothers storytiming it or talking about it on cbr, Reddit, Twitter and all YouTubers who review comics like ComicPop, Pop Culture Philosopher, Near Mint Condition and even Thinking Critical who are all WildStorm fans hate it and gave up on it.
How is it entertaining? How is it being completely unpopular on every corner of the comic Internet a good thing? Why do people storytime Punchline but not this? Every other DC comic gets storytimed besides Mad and Scooby Doo. Batman has been in multiple issues and Batgays who are complete addicts couldn’t care.
8 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t give a frick what other people think. I have found it to be enjoyable enough for my tastes and I have generally liked the weird way the book has been introducing Wildstorm characters to DCU and I’m interested to see where it’s going. And Grifter’s been written well.
>baawwww but other books get posted here
Who. Fricking. Cares. I do not rely on being spoonfed by Cinemaphile for my comics reading.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Are you Matt, his podcast assistants or one of the two lgbts fans he has?
Helped turned Mr Bloom from the villain of a forgettable Batman run into one of my new favourite antagonists in the DC universe
The book was mostly mediocre, but Bloom was fun
Poor Kirk is arguably the most sympathetic character in the book, he's either kept around as a mindless beast or forced to work for Bloom, he couldn't catch a fricking break.
Superpower arms dealer who tried to turn himself into a sentient sun.
flower guy that wanted to destroy gotham for being too corrupt
He has like 8 appearances before Task Force Z, shouldn't be too hard to check them out.
Mr. Bloom was an anonymous person experimented on by the original Mr. Bloom trying to perfect metahumans who then stole the identity.
The character is conceptually meant to be the Joker to Jim Gordon's Batman, not as a literal Joker knockoff but a foil to corporate industrialized police forces.
The irony is that he's actually unintentionally funnier than the Joker usually is.
Turning Kirk into Q for the JLD was lame. He isn’t a magical character and it was forced as frick to make him be into that shit while keeping him as a le nerdy scientist who looks like a bat monster.
threads like "What did Cinemaphile think of it or the Cinemaphilesensus is like asking what Cinemaphile as on unifying body with one opinion thinks about it.
It's not bad I liked a lot of the moments and liked bloom a lot. The framing of the whole zombie stuff is not something I like in general, especially with Gotham. I still enjoyed it for what it was though.
Absolute garbage. Tried to be horror without actually understanding anything about how to make a good horror comic. Having bat villains as almost brain dead zombies in some cases was ridiculous. Two-Face as the upper management guy running the whole thing was boring and didn’t use Harvey in any kind of interesting way. Jason as the leader was dull and misguided. Honestly the entire thing felt like a thinly veiled Mr. Bloom story that should have just been like a Halloween one-shot. In any case it shouldn’t have been as long of a series as it was.
ITT: >40-year old Jasongays mad about everything since 2011 >30-year old Jasongays mad about everything after the Beta-Trinity >newbies who read and enjoy WFA because they aren't broken and cynical yet
Jason is dealt shitty stories like Get Joker and Three Jokers all too regularly for such a sizable chunk of his fanbase to be so elitist.
Most of his stuff is trash, it's just a question of personal trash tiers.
you forgot >hating the crowbars because they are muh edgy >hating the hood >hating the jacket >hating when batman appear >hating when batman doesn't appear
probably the whiniest b***h boys among fans
What's impractical about them? I for one think they're the perfect blunt weapons for Jason when he's trying to hurt someone without outright killing them, sure is better than and more appropriate than swords if you ask me.
I'm not gonna pretend like I'm an expert on crowbars or weapons, but at first glance they just don't really seem that different from escrima sticks or a bo staff.
Also, they can be electrified apparently, so they're not your average dollar store crowbars anyway.
>sure is better than and more appropriate than swords if you ask me.
If you want your character to look shitty and ghetto
Perfect for Jason then.
8 months ago
Anonymous
A solid metal crowbar is much more deadly than a wooden staff, dumbass.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Less immediately deadly than a sword is what I mean.
Ah yes, because getting your head caved in by a crowbar is non deadly
Not in comics.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Also, they can be electrified apparently, so they're not your average dollar store crowbars anyway.
That's even worse now they're not even a purposely low tech aesthetic.
Yeah, but they're also hard to use as non-deadly weapons, crowbars are good for being violent over and over while with swords you kinda just slice their limbs or heads off and that's it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Ah yes, because getting your head caved in by a crowbar is non deadly
Don't remind me. This is what it looks like when the Lazarus resin regenerate cells. It heavily implies Jason died at least once recently and is a zombie when TFZ starts. But no, they never show or address how or why he died when it would maybe explain how he ended there in the first place or what they picked him to lead their zombies. Though, the accidental implications that Jason died, maybe more than once, in a shorp span of time and the batfam never figure it out or care enough about it is pretty funny.
Don't remind me. This is what it looks like when the Lazarus resin regenerate cells. It heavily implies Jason died at least once recently and is a zombie when TFZ starts. But no, they never show or address how or why he died when it would maybe explain how he ended there in the first place or what they picked him to lead their zombies. Though, the accidental implications that Jason died, maybe more than once, in a shorp span of time and the batfam never figure it out or care enough about it is pretty funny.
The real answer is that, like the autopsy scar he shouldn’t have, artists don’t really know canon and just make shit up and editorial rolls with it. Granted the autopsy scar only made it to a cover.
There is some leeway to say Jasonwould still have scarring because the Lazarus pit is screwy with healing scars. Or it could just be a reference to Batman’s scarred back
I just assumed it was scarring from the usual crimefighting that he does everyday. >from what
I dunno, maybe a bomb blew up too close to him or something.
as someone whos not too into DC i really liked task force z it was pretty fun to read
i know a little bit about most of the characters but new characters (to me) like Bloom were cool
Rereading the book made me realize the credits in "Task Force Z created by" change in every issue >#1: some sick individuals >#2: some people who should know better >#3: people who have to explain to relatives what "Lazarus Resin" is >#4: a severe lack of sleep >#5: (created with) the support of viewers like you. Thank you. >#6: (created in part by) a man from New Jersey with a song in his heart. >#7: scary thoughts >#8: back issue bins and cheap records >#9: the horror >#10: blood, guts, & bad ideas >#11: deadlines, deadlines, deadlines! >#12: people who wanted to make your favorite comic
That's a cute gag for the few people who bother reading the credits.
It ended. Bloom lost because he's a idiot with an hubris the size of the moon. Two-face and the twins houdini their asses out of trouble to continue with the zombie team project, but elsewhere. Jason fricked off to the Joker book.
I thought the book had a good balance of making Jason fail and succeed.
Horrible.
Why? I kinda liked it.
Jason fans hate anyone that isn't winnick and any set up that isn't gang lord Jason
Jasongays love Lobdell.
Only CBR Jasongays love Lobdell.
There are plenty of morons here. Plenty of people on Cinemaphile love Lobdell.
I liked it. A good zombie action comedy.
Wouldn't necessarily recommend it for newbies. Big cast and multiple factions, very little exposition, plot twists. It's not super accessible for a casual to process, but it's not Morrison-level dense either.
The emotional bits were good too. But Jason isn't a paragon, he doesn't come out as a knight in shining armor or as a feel-good comeback story, and lots of DC fans just don't enjoy that messy kind.
It's like literally one anon who likes Lobdell. Maybe two. That anon types the same every time. Lobdell is not that popular among Jasonfans. Some enjoy what he did for what it was, many more loudly denounce everything he's ever written. But only a neglible percent want more Lobdell.
>Rosenberg jerking himself off by having Jason beat everyone up
Nightwing still won that fight. And he came out of it as flawlessly pretty and righteous as always, while Jason got exhausted and bruised just trying to escape him and Cass. Yet somehow the Nightwing fans are still mad about Jason not being humiliated enough.
No we do not
then why do Jason fans hate outlaws runs and Artemis?
No, Outlaws was tolerable until this shit.
since i don't know a better place to ask, what should i read after Red Hood: Outlaw (2018—2021)?
is the webtoon set before or after this?
For the love of god don't read the webtoon. If the WFA tumblr crowd hates it, it has zero redeeming qualities.
>Red Hood: Outlaw (2018—2021)?
thats basically the end of the Outlaws for now
Artemis, despite being a fan favorite, was relegated to being Diana's b***h in a couple of issues
she basically did frick all from infinite frontier to now
>webtoon
OH NO NO NO NO AHAHAHAH OH NO NO NO NO AAAHAHAHAH
wait, Jason is a canon cuckold? or is it his daughter? i don't get it
The webcomic writers really hated Jason huh.
Hate or indifference, they clearly didn't understood the assignement. Worst is they had absolute freedom with this AU and that rare freedom resulted into a weaker version of rebirth rhato first arc and shipperfest. It's an absolute waste of space. I wouldn't want to read anything else from the people who worked on this, including the artists.
At this point is clear the writer was making stuff specifically pandering to the tumblr crowd.
They are the only ones I've seen so fixated in that damn line
Tumblr abandon ship a few chapters in after Jason was made out to be the "angry" Robin
so whose the kid? artemis and?
Just bothered to read the last comic and this makes the relationship feel really weird. She looks about 15 and I think Jason is roughly early 20s I think he should be late 20s but that's a different problem, the idea that your partner had a child when you were 7 is a gross relationship.
Isn't Artemis a near-immortal amazon? She is significantly older than Jason from the get-go
It's more about bringing attention to it, not to mention as a final chapter stinger it's just going to fester there with no context.
Is really frustrating how they squandered so much potential in the webtoon. The premise was good enough to carry the whole thing, why drail everything with the moronic Simulation twist?
Or the moronic new costume and logo
webtoon readers are an entire different crowd
the series was well received on there
Not really, The rating tanked after the twist and you often said comments criticizing the direction in every chapter
>the moronic Simulation twist?
Elaborate on this.
The premise of the series is that the JL had to leave Earth for three months and so Bruce, made a deal with Jason, he and the outlaws would be in charge of keeping Earth safe until the return of the JL. If they could accomplish it, then Bruce would stop giving shit to Jason and accept that his methods work. If they failed, Bruce would pull his influences and leave Jason to fend for himself.
We then spent like 20 episodes seeing the Outlaws deal with a bunch of random baddies like Medusa, an alternate universe Mirror Master looking for his husband, and Luthor being Luthor.
Luthor manages to split the Outlaws causing Jason to lose his shit and essentially do the same shit he did to Penguin during Rebirth. But just after shooting Luthor in the head, is revealed that everything we saw was just a computer simulation that Bruce put them into since he was sure Jason would fail. We are treated with a montage dealing differently with the same baddies we saw fighting the Outlaws and then Bruce wakes up Jason (who has now the white streak for some reason) and kicks him out of the family, while bounty hunters from all the universe siege the Watchtower to collect the bounty on the Outlaws.
is the writer mentally ill?
All comic writers are.
yes
Nah, the writer is just a no-name wannabe screenwriter. He tried to cram a lot of action and drama into a weak story. Kind of like a CW show. He didn't hurt anyone, but WFA is the only successful DC webtoon out of four because for some reason the Big Two are allergic to competent collaboration, sensible marketing, and overall decent storytelling right now.
I could put together a team of fan fiction fangirls to write an unironically better story. Which actually is what Wayne Family Adventures did.
and in outlaws she says she only ever let three people get close to her
two of those are women and the other is Jason
me thinks the writer is a single mother
Jasonbros.. there is still hope to have another kid down the line...
Meh. It has a better portrayal for Jason than 3J or SSgetJoker, or Joker did, but that not saying much. The zombie team concept surprisingly fit him though, and the batfam fight delivered some shitpost material.
The concept would had been much better is it wasn't tied to mainline comics ans uspposed to fit in there somehow.
>autism
>the batfam fight delivered some shitpost material.
These three panels made this whole book worth it honestly.
lmao what even is the context of this
Rosenberg jerking himself off by having Jason beat everyone up
That absolutely not true almost every issue he has Jason fall on his ass like a clown.
This is another case DC putting a writer on a red hood book who hates the character
I thought the book had a good balance of making Jason fail and succeed.
The context is frick Tim.
I'm a big Jason fan and I absolutely despise that talentless hack creep Winick.
Well, I thought the twins were hot at least.
Are they related to Resurrection Man? They're Amelia and Delia Shelley after all.
That was probably the intention.
I didn't really understand a lot of what was going on and why characters were doing what they were doing. The premise is fine enough and like says the twins were hot.
It didn't have anything I didn't like but there wasn't much I did.
Aren't they in the new Superman?
Just a short cameo, but yes, they're there.
Good to see them show up in the grander DCU.
it was good and im glad bloom came back
Wait is this canon? Cause you can see the sisters in the superman comic with all the other evil scientists.
>Wait is this canon?
It always was, what made you think it wasn't?
I dunno guess I thought the concept was so dumb it was a elseworld type of thing?
Also didn't know Bane was DEAD DEAD for this long thought he'd be brought back by now.
Well, this is spoilers for two books, Task Force Z and Tynion's Joker, but it turns out Bane never actually died in A-Day, he faked his death and shows up in Joker as one of the many people who want the clown dead, the "Bane" in Task Force Z is actually Gotham Girl's brother with fake memories and a Bane costume.
That's so frickin funny.
Well, they are comics after all.
I liked it but it has the obligatory "hur dur batman VS jason" shit
I at least liked their banter at least.
Jason has way too many daddy issues with Batman for the couple years he spent with Bruce. What was it, 4 years of comics from Jason's intro to his death? Jason spent more years with Talia than he did with Bruce. These daddy issues are cringe as frick.
>Jason has way too many daddy issues with Batman for the couple years he spent with Bruce.
I agree it's scring and nonsensical, but that is his role and character now because it makes Bruce look important.
> Jason spent more years with Talia than he did with Bruce.
No, and half the time he spent with Talia was when he was braindead. Jason spent most of his life alone, or with shit adult figures.
Jason wanting a dad figure works for the character. He needs an authority figure to rebel against as well as feel who he is constantly disappointing.
>an authority figure
I disagree, and Batman is more of an authoritarian figure anyway.
>is the webtoon set before or after this?
The webtoon is its own thing and is not linked to the comics. I wouldn't say it's worth a read but you do you.
> nooo people have differents opinions 🙁
It’s just lazy writing from a certain group of New Yorkers
Every fricking writer has to do this bit between Jason and Bruce/Dick. Every goddamn writer...
Would you rather they held hands and sang kumbaya?
They could tell a new story
At some point DC has to stop hiring israelites who have only ever read one red hood story because they keep repeating it
Like Lobdell already wrote this story
The context of the fight in TFZ is at least different and Bruce actually lets him go in the end.
It was nice of Bruce to somewhat trust Jason for once.
The fact that interactions like this can happen shows how far Bats' characterization has skewed from BTAS where he actively had empathy for people like Freeze, Dent and Baby-Doll, and wanted to help them get better.
>BTAS
That's a shit point of reference since that's a completely different version of the character but I do agree with your basic argument. Batman can be all over the place but this is always the wrong end of the spectrum to be at. Especially with Two Face. Also I hate the tug and pull with Jason. I haven't been keeping up with Batshit since King's run but I prefer Jason just be accepted by the overall Batfamily.
A book so bad Rosenberg gave an interview to Polygon basically calling it editorial driven crap, that he had to write to get his Grilfter/WildCats book launched
And he doesn't even care about that series either.
The wildcats book is at least somewhat entertaining
No it isn’t, no one even bothers storytiming it or talking about it on cbr, Reddit, Twitter and all YouTubers who review comics like ComicPop, Pop Culture Philosopher, Near Mint Condition and even Thinking Critical who are all WildStorm fans hate it and gave up on it.
>N-nobody bothers to storytime it here
Oh wow what a compelling argument
How is it entertaining? How is it being completely unpopular on every corner of the comic Internet a good thing? Why do people storytime Punchline but not this? Every other DC comic gets storytimed besides Mad and Scooby Doo. Batman has been in multiple issues and Batgays who are complete addicts couldn’t care.
I don’t give a frick what other people think. I have found it to be enjoyable enough for my tastes and I have generally liked the weird way the book has been introducing Wildstorm characters to DCU and I’m interested to see where it’s going. And Grifter’s been written well.
>baawwww but other books get posted here
Who. Fricking. Cares. I do not rely on being spoonfed by Cinemaphile for my comics reading.
Are you Matt, his podcast assistants or one of the two lgbts fans he has?
i would see it as a positive thing
link?
Rosenberg and all of his fans are morons
Forgettable.
It's average, Jason fans hate it, but they're moronic.
Helped turned Mr Bloom from the villain of a forgettable Batman run into one of my new favourite antagonists in the DC universe
The book was mostly mediocre, but Bloom was fun
I liked JimBats. Though I guess it was pretty nothing in the long run.
Oh right this is book about that ruined Man-bats character growth in JLD and tried to turn Bloom into a Whedon character
Poor Kirk is arguably the most sympathetic character in the book, he's either kept around as a mindless beast or forced to work for Bloom, he couldn't catch a fricking break.
No rest for the weary, he's coming back in Williamson's Batman and Robin.
I like Kirk.
I wonder how they'll explain him coming back to life.
i hope he just comes back without explanation
They won’t.
Two_Face was part Zombie in it and RaM V has completely ignored it.
I thought Two-Face was one the non-zombie members like Jason.
He was
>tried to turn Bloom into a Whedon character
What was Bloom before this book anyway? I never even heard of him before this.
Superpower arms dealer who tried to turn himself into a sentient sun.
That sounds both vague and overly specific.
flower guy that wanted to destroy gotham for being too corrupt
He has like 8 appearances before Task Force Z, shouldn't be too hard to check them out.
In what?
Mr. Bloom was an anonymous person experimented on by the original Mr. Bloom trying to perfect metahumans who then stole the identity.
The character is conceptually meant to be the Joker to Jim Gordon's Batman, not as a literal Joker knockoff but a foil to corporate industrialized police forces.
The irony is that he's actually unintentionally funnier than the Joker usually is.
also has a better motivation than him
Turning Kirk into Q for the JLD was lame. He isn’t a magical character and it was forced as frick to make him be into that shit while keeping him as a le nerdy scientist who looks like a bat monster.
Stop doing threads with Cinemaphilesensus and shit. Just say what did you think of it.
It was fine.
>Stop doing threads with Cinemaphilesensus and shit. Just say what did you think of it.
What's the difference?
threads like "What did Cinemaphile think of it or the Cinemaphilesensus is like asking what Cinemaphile as on unifying body with one opinion thinks about it.
Just like ask for general opinions
No storyline?
I thought it was fun, which is about all I can ask for from a comic at this point
It's not bad I liked a lot of the moments and liked bloom a lot. The framing of the whole zombie stuff is not something I like in general, especially with Gotham. I still enjoyed it for what it was though.
Fun read. Inventive concept. Bloom is a cool ass villain
Is it true this book is where Jason and Steph first interacted one on one?
Steph was really cute trying to trick Jason
Rosenberg is a weird Steph Jason shipper he does it again in the Joker book
>Steph Jason shipper
Just because he finally made them interact doesn't mean he ships them.
Steph is always cute.
AHHHHHH SEXXOOOOOOOOO
>white woman
>curious about beast boy
What did they mean by this?
wondering if he's still underage too
tbf they are young clones
The issue where he had to write Mr. Freeze out of the comic because it had to tie into the Arkham Tower event in Detective
it was good untill Gotham girl appeared
god she's fricking ugly and annoying
Absolute garbage. Tried to be horror without actually understanding anything about how to make a good horror comic. Having bat villains as almost brain dead zombies in some cases was ridiculous. Two-Face as the upper management guy running the whole thing was boring and didn’t use Harvey in any kind of interesting way. Jason as the leader was dull and misguided. Honestly the entire thing felt like a thinly veiled Mr. Bloom story that should have just been like a Halloween one-shot. In any case it shouldn’t have been as long of a series as it was.
ITT:
>40-year old Jasongays mad about everything since 2011
>30-year old Jasongays mad about everything after the Beta-Trinity
>newbies who read and enjoy WFA because they aren't broken and cynical yet
Jason is dealt shitty stories like Get Joker and Three Jokers all too regularly for such a sizable chunk of his fanbase to be so elitist.
Most of his stuff is trash, it's just a question of personal trash tiers.
you forgot
>hating the crowbars because they are muh edgy
>hating the hood
>hating the jacket
>hating when batman appear
>hating when batman doesn't appear
probably the whiniest b***h boys among fans
The crowbar is a dumb.
Dual-wielding pistols is dumb. Taking on gangsters with batons is dumb. Batarangs are dumb.
It's fine.
>Dual-wielding pistols is dumb.
>Taking on gangsters with batons is dumb.
>Batarangs are dumb.
You are moronic.
If you don't think those things are objectively dumb, you're an idiot.
It does not preclude them from working in-context.
>Using a crowbar for fighting is fine, but using real weapons is dumb.
Kys moron
>a crowbar is less real than a batarang
This is your brain when you don't go outside.
>>a crowbar is less real than a batarang
In comics, yes.
But I love the jacket.
yeah hes worn much worse
Zsasz has a point.
So does Jason.
I wouldn't mind if Jason dressed like zsasz
>hating the crowbars because they are muh edgy
How about dumb and impractical
What's impractical about them? I for one think they're the perfect blunt weapons for Jason when he's trying to hurt someone without outright killing them, sure is better than and more appropriate than swords if you ask me.
>why is an unwieldy hunk of metal used to open things an impractical weapon?
No clue
I'm not gonna pretend like I'm an expert on crowbars or weapons, but at first glance they just don't really seem that different from escrima sticks or a bo staff.
Also, they can be electrified apparently, so they're not your average dollar store crowbars anyway.
Perfect for Jason then.
A solid metal crowbar is much more deadly than a wooden staff, dumbass.
Less immediately deadly than a sword is what I mean.
Not in comics.
>Also, they can be electrified apparently, so they're not your average dollar store crowbars anyway.
That's even worse now they're not even a purposely low tech aesthetic.
>sure is better than and more appropriate than swords if you ask me.
If you want your character to look shitty and ghetto
swords are cool
Yeah, but they're also hard to use as non-deadly weapons, crowbars are good for being violent over and over while with swords you kinda just slice their limbs or heads off and that's it.
Ah yes, because getting your head caved in by a crowbar is non deadly
the troony sperg purist has arrived
>capeshit PLUS zombies
avoiding
it was good
nothing is ever good enough for Todd fans
it's decent
nobody wants to watch that back
I would.
Neither the writer nor the artist ever explains why Jason has a Giant Red Tumor on his back in this series
Use your imagination.
My guess is Eddie barrows is a bad artist of Rosenberg had some weird israelite idea that he forgot by issue 3.
he got too silly
Don't remind me. This is what it looks like when the Lazarus resin regenerate cells. It heavily implies Jason died at least once recently and is a zombie when TFZ starts. But no, they never show or address how or why he died when it would maybe explain how he ended there in the first place or what they picked him to lead their zombies. Though, the accidental implications that Jason died, maybe more than once, in a shorp span of time and the batfam never figure it out or care enough about it is pretty funny.
The real answer is that, like the autopsy scar he shouldn’t have, artists don’t really know canon and just make shit up and editorial rolls with it. Granted the autopsy scar only made it to a cover.
There is some leeway to say Jasonwould still have scarring because the Lazarus pit is screwy with healing scars. Or it could just be a reference to Batman’s scarred back
case in point, Wells doesn't know anything about spiderman's canon
he based it on Raimi movies
does peter have organic webshooters now?
I just assumed it was scarring from the usual crimefighting that he does everyday.
>from what
I dunno, maybe a bomb blew up too close to him or something.
i think it's kinda hot
Reading again through the book made me realize they just forgot about Arkham Knight and Sundowner after issue 5.
Rosenberg is a complete moron
It's why he's working at DC right now.
as someone whos not too into DC i really liked task force z it was pretty fun to read
i know a little bit about most of the characters but new characters (to me) like Bloom were cool
Rereading the book made me realize the credits in "Task Force Z created by" change in every issue
>#1: some sick individuals
>#2: some people who should know better
>#3: people who have to explain to relatives what "Lazarus Resin" is
>#4: a severe lack of sleep
>#5: (created with) the support of viewers like you. Thank you.
>#6: (created in part by) a man from New Jersey with a song in his heart.
>#7: scary thoughts
>#8: back issue bins and cheap records
>#9: the horror
>#10: blood, guts, & bad ideas
>#11: deadlines, deadlines, deadlines!
>#12: people who wanted to make your favorite comic
That's a cute gag for the few people who bother reading the credits.
aw
I forgot about that
how did it end?
the good guys won 🙂
It ended. Bloom lost because he's a idiot with an hubris the size of the moon. Two-face and the twins houdini their asses out of trouble to continue with the zombie team project, but elsewhere. Jason fricked off to the Joker book.
It did.
I still don't understand how this shit was canon
It was just zombie-flavored Suicide Squad, nothing that egregious.