Not having your spirits lifted or feeling a sense of relief at the ending of this movie is the most pseud npc opinion you could have. You basically let other people tell you how to think and feel.
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Taxi Driver has a happy ending
It’s one of the most existentially horrifying endings of all time
isn't it a dream of a dying man, or how he envisioned the events are going to turn out? i don't think it was real
No. No movie is ever that, except for Jacob’s Ladder. That’s brainlet pothead shit.
>except for Jacobs ladder
And 47 meters down.
And Fall.
Fair, I never saw those. I forgot Mullholland Drive too. Regardless “it was all a dream” fan theories are moronic
This. It's a movie, the whole thing is a dream.
There is zero evidence to suggest this yet morons keep spewing it. No other parts of the movie indicated that he was an unreliable narrator, people just want Travis to die for some reason.
the ending in the taxi with Betsy is a bit odd
>women having the hots for famous killers is odd
Ugly ass serial killers get love letters in prison, Betsy being horny for Travis at the end isn't odd at all.
Because she’s suddenly intrigued by him after he’s been branded a hero, when he’s actually just mentally ill, didn’t get any help for it, and will inevitably spin out again with potentially dire consequences. The film ends with him spotting something new in his mirror, and chances are he won’t be mistaken for a good guy next time.
He imagined all that
The WHOLE point of the ENTIRE movie, is that the world rewards "bad people" and "bad behaviour". Of course it wasn't a fricking dream - That would ruin the whole argument.
The reason why you (we) find this concept confusing, is that we don't see him as a bad guy, and condone (to some degree) his actions.
It's not a happy ending. He schizo'ed out again at the last scene. Scorsese himself said it was purposeful. He's a loose cannon that's let free out in the real world. That's the ending.
It’s a happy ending for Travis
No it’s not. He just got enabled by the public to do more schizo shit and next time he spergs out he’s going to get ventilated by cops
Okay that’s cool headcanon but all we see is that he didn’t die and he got famous. It’s a happy ending for him. He might not have a happy end afterward, but for all intents and purposes what we saw was a happy ending for him.
>cannot grasp the concepts of implication, inference, consequences, cause and effect, cannot envision even the immediate future for a character because it wasn’t showed directly for him.
Let me guess, you are black.
This is like saying the sopranos didn’t have a negative ending just because Tony didn’t get shot in the face directly on camera for you.
Guy, Travis was smiling at the end. He did not die, he became a hero. For TRAVIS the ending was happy. It’s that simple.
NTA but just because someone goes through a bad period in their lives where they make poor choices doesn't mean that they are destined to do it again. By the end of the movie Travis is shown to be more confident and comfortable with himself, he is friendly with the guys at the Taxi station and isn't obsessed with Betsy anymore. He's also proud of making the world a better place. If it had ended with another of his "wash the scum off the streets" monologues I'd agree with you, but instead he seems to be in a much better headspace at the end of the film.
This wasn’t just a bad period, he’s not just a guy who got a bit down in the dumps, and the filmmakers themselves have said he’s a timebomb waiting to go off again.
>the filmmakers themselves have said he’s a timebomb waiting to go off again
Death of the author. Nothing we are shown in the ending indicates that Travis is still planning on killing people. Instead he's shown to be happy and comfortable with himself, which is completely different than he's portrayed during the rest of the film. Even if Marty and his pals think Travis is going to go nuts again they did a poor job of showing that.
>death of the author and also death of the other 99% of people that saw this movie and arrived at the same conclusion, only i am correct, it must be the director, writer and audience that is wrong, not me.
>99% of people agree with me
Why are you gays so narcissistic? If it was so obvious then we wouldn't be having this discussion, some people think it was a bad ending and that Travis was going to explode again but others think he was in a better place. Get over yourself you fricking homosexual.
>you can’t just accept the ending as shown, you have to read into things and imagine the potential consequences after the events of the story, and you also have to arrive at the same conclusions as me!
He was just adjusting his mirror for visibility, I guess.
>is that man adjusting his rear-view mirror? That must mean he's going INSAAAAAAAAAAAAAANEEEEEEEEE
How about you listen to the director?
Hell, just listen to Scorsese on any of his film commentaries. The level of autism on even little pan outs has depth of meaning to him. He doesn't do anything by accident.
Death. Of. The. Author. We've already been through this.
>My postmodernist claptrap means you're wrong
No.
If Scorsese wants to make Taxi Driver 2: Travis Goes Batty he can, but until then I'll go with the original ending where Travis seems happy with his life, car mirrors aside.
>If I ignore the last moment of the film before credits roll, I can imagine a different ending
>dude adjusting his mirror means he's going to go on a rampage
You are stretching a two second shot to justify your theories. You've already decided that Travis was crazy and a danger, now you're bending over backwards to justify that.
He was just adjusting his mirror for visibility reasons I guess.
People adjust their mirrors while driving anon, if you had a car you would know this.
(You)
Post-structuralism is post-modern. DotA is the quintessential post-structuralist essay.
You're right, I was mistaken. Still trying to make sense of the tangle of structuralist-deconstrunctionist-poststructuralist-postmodern terminology.
Death of the Author isn't postmodernist.
Well, just to mention, I'm also not trying to take away what you get out of it by yourself. Travis did a good thing... this time, for this story. But he's still crazy. Being crazy will net more losses than wins in life eventually. That's all I think Scorsese wanted to acknowledge.
It’s not a binding rule.
Poor media literacy almost half a century later is not the fault of the filmmakers.
that last moment looks to me like travis is going to continue to be a sperg though, Scorsese didn’t put it in and put a sound effect over it for no reason.
On another note, I remember an old episode of Inside the Actor's Studio where Deniro said he wished they had made a later life of Travis, and what would have become of him. Too late now, but that could've been interesting on how much crazier he got.
Yeah I never really understood people's cope and explanation for it. He murders the bad guys, saves the little girl, and her parents thank him for it. Literally nothing goes wrong.
It doesn’t change his life, he basically just has a manic violent episode and wakes up finding out it went okay this time
Isn't he a lot more chill about the politician post-rampage?
He never hated the politician. He's just a psycho who was projecting feelings of sexual jealousy onto Palantine, same way he projected those feelings onto the pimps of the child pros he met.
He was just moving from one daydream about performing a shooting to the next
brainlet take
>shoot some black guy
>no one gives a shit because lolnigs
>try to assassinate politician, if you do this you will be killed instantly by cops/security detail
>fail
>next try to kill some pimp and his clients
>succeed
>everyone cheers you on suddenly
>be too schizo to realise that you’re just a broken clock that was right twice a day, and the object of your sperg rage just so happened to be someone the general public agrees is horrible too
>hm, maybe i will kill more people i think are the scum of the earth (i.e. literally anyone he dislikes)
>get killed or spend rest of life in jail
No one knew he was the weirdo at the rally and they had no proof he was going to assassinate the politician, they just saw him acting odd and chased him away. The guards probably thought he was just some random nut and forgot about him the next day.
Right, meaning he failed because he was shooed off by the guards without even being taken seriously as a shooter. If I recall the scene can easily be read as him getting nervous and running off
You're overthinking it. A heavily troubled young man rises above his circumstances and becomes a hero. It's a good ending. He could've used his rage and mental illness to hurt innocents, but he made sure that his energy was devoted to fighting someone evil. We should aspire to be like him.
He was right on the brink of assassinating a presidential candidate for no reason.
>for no reason
The only reason one needs to assassinate a politician is that they're a politician.
This was the era of Jimmy Carter. Not all politicians are outright bad, even if incompetent.
Whoa! Edgy!
blaming the politician for all the filth he sees on the streets, hurting Betsy by proxy because of their break up. plenty of reasons
>hurting Betsy by proxy because of their break up
lmao. this is healthy behavior?
interesting question, i'd feel uneasy saying yes, but in a sense Betsy was being pimped out, selling her bright eyed optimism in service of a crooked politician. although i don't think it was his motivation there, he was just an assblasted 70s italian, wanting to frick something up.
>no reason
Travis was on the brink of having to put his righteous thoughts into action and the deceiving politician, who Travis had first hand knowledge of being phony, was the logical target as he was supposed to be a leader to the people but instead had no intention of anything other than lip service and the status quo.
now the question was did Travis get duped by Betsy into supporting the politician or did he genuinely believe voting mattered and was a worthy cause? he seemed innocent until watching the politician on tv spinning bullshit after being straight with him in the cab.
either way he fricked up by not killing Easy Andy first.
In a way yes, but it ended up being pure coincidence what he did was good
He never at any point targeted civilians, everyone he took out or tried to take out had it coming. People who claim Travis was a bad guy are simply unhappy because they know they're one of the people who he would kill.
I guess it just matters how much you consider political assassination decent
What is a "civilian"?
No worries.
Is anyone saying he's a bad guy? He's just crazy. He did a good thing once. Like picrel.
How did Palantine have it coming? He only redirects onto Sport and the guys around him because he fails earlier in the day but is set on killing people and dying in the process. He’s already sent a goodbye to Iris, intending to never see her again. The saviour narrative comes about entirely by chance.
>How did Palantine have it coming?
He was a scummy, lying politician.
Based on what? The film gives no evidence that he’s one of the untrustworthy ones.
All 20th century politicians are scum, including Jimmy Carter and whoever else you might bring up. They all are one of the untrustworthy ones.
We’re talking about make believe. There’s nothing in the text to suggest he didn’t genuinely want to make the city better. He doesn’t get targeted because of anything he’s done, it’s purely because it would impact Betsy.
leftists literally look at a guy who murders pedophiles and think "he's evil"
I did not care for the Taxi Driver.
Isn’t there evidence in this movie he wasn’t even a marine
No, Tarantino made that up.
he lies about other stuff but I think he was probably in the war
Isn’t there evidence in this movie he wasn’t even a marine
He has military patches on his clothing and a big scar from his service.
Is that pistol slider on his arm something that had been used before or did they make it up for this movie?
I love Travis so much
>NOOO HE'S A BAD GUY WITH A BAD ENDING
>STOP PROJECTING YOURSELF ONTO TRAVIS YOU FRICKING INCEL
>STOP STOP FRICKING HAVE SEX HOLY SHIT
>PIMPS DO NOT DESERVE TO DIE PIMPS DO NOT DESERVE TO DIE
etc. etc. You homosexuals are always the same with this. Just admit that you're terrified of someone looking up to Travis. You don't give a shit about people's interpretation of the movie, you're using it as justification for brow-beating virgins.
>people looking up to Travis
You mean misanthropic gunmen
there's literally nothing wrong with killing pedophiles
>controversial take on Cinemaphile
the ending is hacked.
his hair is the same and he looks no different than earlier in the film. just a little more poster and different jacket or something. takes me out of the film everytime. Betsy was a painfully superfluous addition too.
he even lives in the same shit apartment as the newspaper clippings on the wall show.
how long was he even in the hospital for? and no talk of a trial for killing 4 people? crooked NYC cops relied on those pimps for their bribe money as pay was so shit so they would not go easy on a person for fricking with it and especially galvanize copy cats by allowing Travis to be plastered in the media as a hero.
no, see in reality he would have been hunted by off duty cops and buddies of the pimps (they were white so links to russia/mob and organized crime is obvious) and would have been found and dead in a week after released from the hospital for being a moron and driving the same cab and route and living in the same place.
>takes me out of the film everytime.
That's just a production issue. Sometimes scenes are filmed out of sync. A lot of the time.
Ex. I think in Terminator Arnold goes from crew cut to wavy hair at different points.
>(they were white)
Only because of studio interference. Thematically, they were Black.
i am aware.
obviously a completely different cultural zeitgeist if they were black. especially for DeNiro.
You can see the scar on his neck from the bullet in the final scene and the papers say he was in a coma for a week or two if you read them. What bothers me more is his haircut change from the start to the scene when he comes to freak out in Betsy’s office. It’s one of the wigs.
Do you think they ever fricked?
pedo phenotype
Sidenote: The most unrealistic thing is he didn't stalk and keep calling Betsy. First to explain himself, then longrunning rants about his problems, then the final stage of calling a rotten b***h who deserves to be raped, then assassinating her politician boss.
He calls her until she doesn’t answer anymore and keeps sending her flowers that she returns until his apartment is full of them
the most unrealistic part was his expectations, that Iris would be grateful for what he did for her, reconcile with her parents and so on. in all probability she'd whitewash the pimp/lover/boyfriend, deny his wrongdoings, and testify against Travis.
it shows his naivety. man, it's a good movie.