I didn't watch 3 (guess why)
my theory about s1 vs s2 is the guy had his whole life to come up with the story and characters for s1
and then had like six months to do that for s2 and he just choked
who knows tho
Yeah the two worst seasons lol. 3 is like a hollowed out soulless attempt at recapturing the lightning in a bottle magic of s1. It's watchable but once it ends it feels about as impactful and meaningful as playing with some dollar store toy, like the ball and the cup. Cheap entertainment
like most mystery shows, the first half build up seems like a lot of cool potential.
just can't land the finish.
dementia man having flashbacks solving the case or getting confused could be cool. just the case was filled with red herrings and then had an underwhelming explanation
Alright will give it a try, then.
The premise of fricked up things in the artic always draws me in assuming there's horror.
I'm guessing the other 3 seasons aren't about horror?
They have this complex of thinking they're fricking protagonists in a novel. This sounds like a game of thrones character crossed with johnson from accounting. Expect to see a fricking shit ton of this as time goes on, with her or Wakiti whatever his name is. Hell, I could see them even pushing for "you know maybe the mormons were right and we israelites aren't actually white, we're native american!"
>I'm guessing the other 3 seasons aren't about horror?
True Detective is an anthology show. S1 had cosmic horror elements, S2 was an LA Noir story, S3 was about being black with alzheimers.
there are things suggestive of horror, but nothing concrete.
people saying or hearing the same cryptic "shes awake" type phrase"
animals doing weird shit.
minimal jump scare of something running in the shadow never revealed
old lady seeing someone and following them but she acknowledges that person to be dead
hint of ritualistic symbols on victims who were tortured
>nothing concrete
The scientist having a small psychotic break and saying "she's awake" followed by them all disappearing isn't concrete horror? Unless he's the murderer, I don't buy that.
i think the whole point of the first season is that the supernatural must obviously be real to influence such insane and inate evil. the yellow king does everything taboo simply because he thinks he is gaining some supernatural power from it, and he does in his mind
Human behavior caused by belief in the supernatural is different from supernatural phenomena. There are only vague suggestions of supernatural phenomena in S1 which you can rationalize (if you wish) as Rust hallucinations or occult fanaticism. S4E1 has 3 or 4 overt supernatural events.
5 months ago
Anonymous
What supernatural events? Polar bears aren't supernatural. The woman seeing her dead husband can be rationalized as hallucination. The radio is electromagnetic, not supernatural.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You just know they will explain different people saying "she's woke" as some kind of cringe Jungian bullshit noosphere awakening after drinking dirty water
5 months ago
Anonymous
>woman has vision of her dead husband (?) pointing to the dead bodies
explicit >two different people have the same vision of the polar bear with missing left eye
explicit >guy has psychotic episode and says "she's awake"
between vague suggestion and explicit. leans toward explicit with added information that everyone in the building dies shortly after, unless he's the murderer. we won't know until later >herd of elk stampeding off a cliff
between a vague suggestion and explicit
5 months ago
Anonymous
Its just the mine contaminating the water. Its pretty obvious if you watch the episode.
>First guy to get sick had just washed his face >The Reindeer were drinking when they all went crazy >A couple references to the water tasting bad >The scientists bios all mention research about metal ions
Its pretty clear the mine has contaminated the water. Probably with something like Mercury and now they are all getting sick.
5 months ago
Anonymous
And the point of the toothbrush scene was also the water. The last thing that the black chick did before seeing the bear was brush her teeth (water), and with a Spongbob toothbrush no less (making damn sure you get the reference to water). Water contaminants are making them hallucinate. The show isn't supernatural.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Its just the mine contaminating the water
That might be the story they're going for. My original point was that the pacing is fricked if they're going to rationalize the events. It's not impossible, but definitely absurd to believe the congruence of these events is due to water poisoning.
we are confusing supernatural with horror.
the original comment asked if there was horror. the replying comment assumed horror meant supernatural.
season 1 true detective is horror. a mysterious murder cult is horror even if there is no supernatural element
there are things suggestive of horror, but nothing concrete.
people saying or hearing the same cryptic "shes awake" type phrase"
animals doing weird shit.
minimal jump scare of something running in the shadow never revealed
old lady seeing someone and following them but she acknowledges that person to be dead
hint of ritualistic symbols on victims who were tortured
Some anon called it last thread.
The script started as a Terror modernization with a lesbian romantic duo lead and female non-American director to get diversity points on social media. They then bought True Detective IP and paid pizzaman for his name to be attached as exec producer to lure in old show fans.
But this is not a True Detective show in any way. It only seems more "paranormal" because its reference is actually S1 The Terror, not True Detective.
I wish Hollywood wasn't so cynical, it's frustrating. I won't even be pirating the rest of the season.
it BETTER be the eskimo girls spirit animal is an angry polar bear killing all the yts
if every clue shown in episode one can be discredited as a redherring and it was not some kaiser basedze deception narrative, then its pretty annoying
The guy had a concussion. When she takes her revenge later she sneak around and drops shit in his gas tank because she known she can't take him if he's in his right mind. Not because she's just a woman, but because the guy is pretty fit. She can obviously handle most ordinary guys with her skills.
Can’t comment, I couldn’t get into it when it aired and found the first two episodes to be a slog today. It has this unnecessary fictional political setting and there’s been a nog and a poo onscreen.
just watched the episode, are they seriously just making a wind river tv show with this? the reveal being that all the men in one place just happen to all be psychopathic rapists and murderers? brilliant.
The television version of the FBI only comes in if something crosses state or national borders or unambigiously involves terrorism, basically. That's not how it actually works, but lots of things in shows like this are more about established conventions from other media than reality.
The scientists were foreign nationals, which does beg the question of how small they could actually keep the investigation.
Definitely seems like something a state CID should get involved in, but unfortunately a woman is writing this story.
Half of the nordic countries are also in the article circle. Yeah Sweden and Finland do not have any land claim rights territory in the artic sea because they lack ports.
Why was everybody so relaxed after discovering an empty research station? Shouldn’t there be some rescue mission going on cause they might be trapped in the storm somewhere?
this whole scene was terrible. all that nonsense, needlessly abrasive talk, the researching the station etc. while Foster apparently knew that the people were gone for atleast 2 days AND there is a fricking human tongue on the ground? wtf
>needlessly abrasive talk
The three cops are all family. It’s a woman her ex-husband and their son. That’s why there’s an antagonistic vibe between the two older cops.
why would her son greet her with "morning chief" and answer the phone with "hey chief", why woud she have to explain to him that she's not a beatles fan, why would she ask pete if his dad ever made him sandwiches, how come her shitskin daughter never mention "brother" or a "stepfather", why would her "brother" come to babysit her, if they were fricking family, you absolute moron
and how come his dad already sacked the Black person from the force before the jody foster came to town, that would mean by the time the two end up together, make a kid, kid grows up, they split, fricking Black person would be 70yo
>The three cops are all family. It’s a woman her ex-husband and their son. That’s why there’s an antagonistic vibe between the two older cops.
i originally thought they were exs and she was the mom as while she was stern to the young guy directly, she was soft to him if the old guy tried to be stern to him (he tells pete to speak up when briefing the team, she says i can hear him just fine for ex), and her talking shit about what kind of a father he was.
but calling her chief and being desperate to pick up the phone for a work call when about to get laid makes me thing not, but she could just be very distant.
another explanation of the animosity is they mention the old guy is the former sheriff, and jodie foster has taken over his job and she has contempt for him as she's very shitty. his son cringes when asked to go to his dads house to pick up the box and he for some reason has to hide the fact from him. maybe he's a frick up/alcoholic and she took over a disaster of a police dept she had to fix. (or he will secretly be hinding something covering up the cold case eskimo girl shit). we know that jodies character is shitty because she's always rude to nigskimo when asking if there is a connection the cold case. yes breaking into the crime scene is justifiable to be a b***h to her, but she was beforehand that provoked the cringe spirit animal retort
>while Foster apparently knew that the people were gone for atleast 2 days
the key is to keep quiet until someone else offers an explanation so you can tell them they are wrong
It was bad, the only thing it had going for it was the TD brand name to bring people in and it completely squandered it with a mediocre first episode that was basically an X-Files episode with two poorly written leads
It was shit. They're going for lovecraftian horror >scientists digging to find the origin of life >whistling ambience >star-shaped stab wounds
the episode was peppered with a dozen or so reminders of how incompetent or evil white men are.
If so then I don't get why they're shoving the supernatural stuff down our throats. Is it just bad writing? I already know the answer but I'm mad >she's awake >one-eyed polar bear >vision of the dead guy
Full of queerness and interracial relationships. Blue hair, awful piercings, a woman of color dominating some dude in bed. It's quite a bit of in-your-face wokeness. I wanted to get into it, I really did.
Its pretty trash. It already has a black chick beating up guys twice her size, lame lesbian romances, and it feels like Lost where it just sets up tons of unrelated mysteries that you know will never get resolved.
The show also feels like oddly low stakes for what is happening. An entire team of international scientists are missing, and there is like zero urgency to investigate or find them.
>An entire team of international scientists are missing, and there is like zero urgency to investigate or find them.
You think that'd be something to get a lot more state and federal assets involved. Hell you'd also think whoever is fricking paying for the place would be up in arms. They have millions of dollars worth of equipment and who knows how much valuable intellectual property.
Season 1, episode 1. They find the deer antler girl who is a single dead prostitute. In that episode, in the background at the crime scene is a whole team of crime scene investigators cataloging shit. The police chief briefs an entire detective's office on the findings and discusses the media frenzy. The governor talks about setting up a task force. Every civilian they come across is aware of the murder.
In this episode, the are 3 cops looking around the entire artic base for a few minutes, and then they all just leave. There is no media, and no manhunt. There seem to be only two detectives assigned to the case at all. No one outside the police department seems to aware of the disappearance.
And it works against the show. Because why should I care about the central mystery if none of the characters seem to care? I can intuit that the lack of initiative will be a plot point later though. I think Jodie is an inside man sent to cover up for the cult.
I was thinking exactly of the contrast between the two crime scenes. A buddy and I are pretty sure this is going to essentially be the plot of "Fortitude" mixed with "The Terror." >mining causing ice to melt >releases weird bacteria or something that makes people go crazy >mine company pays for research station that discovers this >murdered chick also found out about this via one of the scientists >gets murdered by someone, either some of the scientists or mine people or both >Native Spirits involved maybe?
I dunno, it just seems dumb. As flayed as seasons 2 and 3 were, their first episodes at least made me want to keep watching. This didn't.
I think you are probably pretty close. Jodie Foster will be revealed to be an inside man in on the coverups though. It was pretty obvious to me from Episode 1 that she was sent there originally to help cover up the tongue girl's murder. She is oblivious to the current happening though.
FBI can't step in unless asked to, or they suspect corruption. Seeing as how S4 is already trying to copy S1's mystery setting i'm guessing S4 involves some conspiracy cult that local politicians probably don't want uncovered; thus, FBI will not be asked to step in because those politicians likely have the necessary people bribed. S1 is no different. A serial kidnap/killer would have the FBI on it irl, but the whole story is that locals are also in on it and ultimately Marty and Rust only take out the "killer" and not actually the cult. It's very clear there's more to the story in S1 that was left undiscovered, but the local authorities closed the case.
Jodie is in on the cult. That's why she was sent there to investigate the missing tongue girl and ended up getting the black chick kicked off the case. Jodie's was dispatched to cover it up. The guy hording all the boxes is a red herring. Its presented as though he may be trying to bury the case file, but the reality is he took it to keep it away from Jodie since he suspects her in a coverup.
So I'm only about 10 minutes in, but the Arthur Gordon Pym (Poe) reference is pretty evident with the "Tsalal" thing. Are there any other references apart from what's already been discussed?
I read the book, anon. That's the only reason I know it. I read that one and the Mat Johnson one. It's a very distinctive name for a thing and is impossible to forget once you know it.
If they go the full mountain of madness route, horrors beyond comprehension, which they seem to bem, this season could be kino even with the blatant propaganda
Also jodie foster is agreat actress and she could probably carry this
not everyone is a shill
you have to be a brainwashed moron to not think it would be kino if they went the full route s01 only hinted at
I doubt they have the creativity to do it properly tho
>mountain of madness route
Its leaning into a little, but they are making it about old Indian feminists spirits instead of Lovecraftian Gods. They are doing a WE WUZ LOVECRAFT, same as Lovecraft Country did.
>same as Lovecraft Country did
I liked the first story of that book, but the second one was incredibly hamfisted. Also I remember a lib friend of mine complaining about how hamfisted the show was too.
>WE WUZ LOVECRAFT
Yep, ripping the good imagery and symbolism and bastardizing the themes. >the pursuit of forbidden knowledge by humans unleashes unknown cosmic horror
is >the pursuit of forbidden knowledge by white men unleashes women on men
What other tv series with horror elements set in the artic or somewhere like it?
I can't even think of anything other than Terror S01 and Fortitude in a way.
>What other tv series with horror elements set in the artic or somewhere like it?
the north water - no supernatural stuff, just 1800s brits trying not to die in the arctic. visually kino. story was ok, they included some elements i dont know how much it added
Too many supernatural elements. None of them can be attributed to LSD hallucinations like with Rust. So I wonder what the FRICK are they doing? Will they go full Lovecraft?
Or they contaminated the water with some fricked up chemical they are using to secretly drill for oil or mine some ore. Metal smelting and lithography are also industrial processes that require chemicals you can repurpose for making hallucinogens so there's that angle toom
Or they contaminated the water with some fricked up chemical they are using to secretly drill for oil or mine some ore. Metal smelting and lithography are also industrial processes that require chemicals you can repurpose for making hallucinogens so there's that angle toom
hm. that one guy did say the water has been gone for three days
officer cheekstuds brushes her teeth then hears "she's awake" and sees the one-eyed polar bear
officer oldc**t brushes her teeth before bed and is awoken with a hand on her arm hearing "she's awake" and finds a one-eyed polar bear plushie doll on the ground by her bed
Yeah, I know they are pushing the spirit angle hard. I noticed all that. But it's the usual switcheroo I think. They want you to anticipate the big reveal and it turns out that someone is trying to cover a crime by making it seem like its a sea God doing it except there's some half baked scientific explanation for it all that they reveal in flashbacks where they give you extra information they withheld when setting up the story. It's boring. There are lots of ways they could go and they'll do a clumsy job no matter which direction they go. If I don't care about the character it's hard to care what happens.
If they dont go with tongueless girls vengeful spirit animal it’ll be a white nale mining/research exec doing it to cover up the opportunity to make a shitload of money. No way its a native death cult, while the most interesting it would run counter to the grain of the showrunners clear agenda
Yeah, it would be cool if the rich white guys and the natives were both trying to do some fricked up voodoo together. That would be newer and fresher.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Imagine a scene where the ugly cop busts into the underground research station and its chad mcbrad the mining exec with chief inkonface summoning cosmic horror into the researchers/natives bodies. That’d be just about the only way the show could surprise me
5 months ago
Anonymous
Exactly. Something like that. Hell, maybe some Uber rich Zuckerberg type took a tour up in the arctic and found out about this spirit and he's powerful and rich enough to be the Native's patron. They use his resources to access their ancestral land which he gets by creating and NGO to take it from the Mining company. So you have a three way conflict. The detectives think its the Mine company that's the bad guy but it turns out they are fighting this rich weirdo and his cult too.
What's cool about the supernatural nature of season 1 is that it doesn't require that it be "real". As long as the cult believes in it, it's real enough to be a danger to anyone that the evil takes an interest in. Rust is just uniquely open to seeing the world the way the cult members do because they share some philosophical common ground. I've had some spooky synchronicities while I was tripping that share that quality. You couldn't empirically prove they happened but they meant something to me, and I shared the experience with othe people
>I've had some spooky synchronicities while I was tripping that share that quality. You couldn't empirically prove they happened but they meant something to me, and I shared the experience with othe people
Oh well thanks for your input Captain Fricko, I'll be sure to write it down, just give me a second to grab my "Things I will never give a shit about" folder
Thanks. I know my input is needed because people like you have nothing to say. Who would say a thing for you to criticize if cool people with good opinions like myself weren't around to give you something to reeee about. Lol
>Speaking with Hola, Season 4 writer Issa Lopez shared how much research she did on Alaska for the series, confirming that she had "never been to Alaska and certainly not that part of Alaska" before working on the story.
never been to alaska and certainly not that part of alaska
>I’ve never been to that place and certainly not that part of that place that I’ve never been too.
This person that HBO is paying millions to run their show can’t even clearly communicate a simple concept such as >I have never been this location.
>Speaking with Hola, Season 4 writer Issa Lopez shared how much research she did on Alaska for the series, confirming that she had "never been to Alaska and certainly not that part of Alaska" before working on the story.
never been to alaska and certainly not that part of alaska
it's verbose midwit speak, but if you watch interviews on s1 pizzo speaks the same way. uses 3 words where 1 works, uses words incorrectly. I think it's just california brain
So the scenario is the daughter is collaborating with the father, the gunshot was her starting to execute the nuns,, right?
Incredibly comfy first episode with a hard hook at the end. Exactly what Night Country tried to do, except Lopez can’t write for shit. NC would’ve benefitted immensely by frontloading the boring town drama in the first half, then bringjng the characters together at the research station in the last 20-30 minutes.
So the scenario is the daughter is collaborating with the father, the gunshot was her starting to execute the nuns,, right?
Incredibly comfy first episode with a hard hook at the end. Exactly what Night Country tried to do, except Lopez can’t write for shit. NC would’ve benefitted immensely by frontloading the boring town drama in the first half, then bringjng the characters together at the research station in the last 20-30 minutes.
had to been in the first 15-20 minutes
they were blathering names left and right with seemingly poor audio fidelity to actually tell what they were saying but pretty sure its when they got disapepared at the research station?
Are all the rich and influential people apart of the Carcosa cult? Does the Carcosa cult run the mine, and the scientist find out that the mine was fricking up the environment and they sacrificed them? The one guy did say that the water went bed 3 days ago, so maybe there chemicals in the water fricking with people?
i have not seen them in years
s1 - old louisiana family cult with branches to the highest levels of political power
s2 - rich old californians connected with eastern european mob, prostituting young women
s3 - isolated incident one rich family trying to placate their insane daughter who lost a child
imagine typing more words to be wrong instead of just checking yourself, let this be a lesson in how profoundly moronic you are in asserting something you are unsure of
They are going to retroactively ruin season 1 aren't 1, aren't they? They are going to make Rust part of some psychic magic wizard family like he is a fricking Jedi.
how does ferris beuhler parade scene stuck on repeat play into all of this?
was it just to cue of a jodie foster joke and it could have been any dvd scene stuck on tv?
don't know why the dvd was on loop but i bet that jodie's character was involved in some drunk driving accident that killed someone and the beatles' "shake it up baby" was playing at the time which is why she hates the song
I was expecting him to show up on the finale to set up the next season because everything about this shit seems so desperate, but after this episode there's no chance he'd have agreed.
this seems to be an independent show that was pitched as "night country" and the only way an exec agreed to it is what if we branded it as true detective "night country"
and despite being only 6 episodes, the dropoff rate of viewers not finishing it promptly will lead to the true detective franchise to finally be laid to rest
girls and guys that follow girl internet trends follow the narrative hard.
true detective being "the best show ever" (but not season 2 because ) (season 3 is kind of forgotten) is reason enough for all of us to tune in.
but the b***hing about the show will be very entertaining i must remindmyself.
1st season magic will never be coming back anon. That was a fluke. I actually kind of liked Season 2, it was just impossible to follow up on season 1. Season 3.. Started off shit. Got better. Then got weirder and I dont even know how it ended.
I had to get past the gay motorcycle cop and his lame problems and the weird over acting from Colin Farrell but I generally liked seasons 1-3. I memed about the nig from season 3 but he was a good character so I can forgive it. The hard part was hearing they were going to make a third season and everyone knew it was going to star a Black person because racism gives you telepathy. Then we hear there's a season 4, but it's all women and chugs and Black folk and it's exactly as I expected it would be. Racism really takes some mystery out of the world. You know exactly what to expect
nta but it's blatantly lovecraftian. as stated in thread already >scientists digging into the ice searching for the origin of life >primitive religion >star-shaped stab wounds on bodies from unknown object
>star-shaped stab wounds on bodies from unknown object
If they pull out Elder Things from their ass this will be the greatest piece of Lovecraftian TV ever.
it came out from the strike that writers are mostly all salary. so there's just this layer of twitter normies and woke crusaders revolving through every script in panels the size of small towns
If it doesn't have a scene where the monster shows up and goes "I'M THE TRUE DETECTIVE HERE! I'M IN FRICKING CHARGE, YOU HEAR ME, WOMAN???" then it's trash
Man this first episode fricking sucked. The polar bear with the fricked up eye was gay. The nig-chug is ugly and unlikable. The forced backstory exposition between all the chugs and the white people like the daughters. The tone is wrong. The sound track is trash. I don't want to get to know these characters. That's probably the worst indictment of the show. Who cares? They don't make the setting interesting. It's a waste of money that could have made a better season of some other story
Anyway you frickers are throwing a fit over the FIRST episode. Two days ago I saw people complaining about not enough research station ON THE FIRST EPISODE holy shit. You buttholes type as if you had already watched the whole season.
Still I agree everyone in this season so far is uninteresting and it really feels like a different, worse show. It's really noticeable the new showrunner is terrible.
I'm not attracted to female MMA fighters or gorillas in underarmor. It's my own personal taste but I have pretty broad tastes and most people are going to agree with me that she's an uggo even if she has good genetics for making boys. The face piercings make her even uglier. And there's no depth to her character. She's aggressive, not bright, touchy and sensitive about race when she's supposedly a cop with years of experience working in a small town. It's just really lame writing. A fantasy of wish fulfillment for a mind sick on liberalism, rather than a fully fleshed out character. Woody Harrelson told you more about his whole character with the way he sold himself to the detectives interviewing him in the first episode of season one than we have learned through blunt exposition in this first episode.
>there's no depth to her character. She's aggressive, not bright, touchy and sensitive about race when she's supposedly a cop with years of experience working in a small town. It's just really lame writing
I agree that a bunch of her so far feels like it's just obligatory Female Empowerment, but so far we've only seen one character, so it's way too early to go judging the character. I do fear the whole season is gonna be a shit show, but I can't say for now.
>I'm not attracted to female MMA fighters or gorillas in underarmor
She looks nowhere like a gorilla, though. But yeah, she's not pretty and the piercings are moronic.
It took S1E1 15~ minutes to leave its opening crime scene.
S4E1 was there for 7~ minutes, with 1 of those devoted to 'I don't like the Beetles' and telling the old man he's a shit dad.
Not only was there not enough research station, there wasn't enough anything plot-related for a 6-episode season that cares more about teenage lesbian sextapes than actually investigating its murder.
You homies think there might be something interesting about the cop being a vet and having some flashbacks about her time in Iraq or whatever? That scene where she talks to the soldier with half a head was pretty spooky.
>do you actually enjoy this?
there were too many microaggressions against me as the viewer, but i tolerate it because shitposting about a show that has collective buzz is very fun
It's sedna the inuit goddess of the ocean and the underworld. She was cast Into the ocean by her father and when she tried to get back on the boat he cut her fingers off. Her fingers became the first fish in the sea. She's associated with punishing sexual criminals.
Anywhere with chugs is poor. They don't like to work or take care of anything. They just sit around resentful and drunk and molest their kids. It's a bad scene.
By most standards, it is.
By most standards, most of rural America is impoverished.
I am not Alaskan, mind you, but I believe Juno is their only real 'modern' city. They just don't have a reason- population or industry wise- to condense and urbanize. The Dakotas are another good example of this, though in a more livable environment.
this is the northern part of alaska where its mines, eskimos, and research bases.
i duno if in trailer or ep 1 they mention considering sending some forensics to anchorage.
Direction and pacing was all over the place
music was whatever. and the whole intent to present it as sobrenatural was a bad choice, shoehorned, ham-fisted
Jodie was literally the best part of it
>fricking white peepol
enough, this is straight up childish
this is not True detective
I have zero hopes for it to be good
S1 was good because rust was cool 10 years ago, woody is a great actor, the one shot scene was amazing and they flirted and hinted with all that lovercraftian horror. And still the ending sucked. It was a mix of good things that gave us a good season but it should have ended right there. Later attempts to revive the series are pathetic
>ending sucked
get fricked moron, there is no cosmic horror, there is no great intangible evil, its just us, alone, with all of our depravity and sin, and the guilt is ours to bear alone, not God's.
Why do they refuse to cast good looking niggresses? I've seen beautiful black police officers in crime videos on youtube so i know they exist but in cinema we only get ogre ass looking creatures.
Thats exactly the point - the mediocrity and banal lack of aesthetics is meant to demoralize you, much like bauhaus architecture and fashion and auto design. The denial of beauty, and thus truth, is purposefully used to grind out mans sense of meaning, hope, and aspirations for a better world. I see more attractive women manning the registers at grocery stores for fricks sake.
If they cast some dainty pretty girl, everyone would be pissing and shidding themselves over how unbelievable it is that a woman can do anything. At least when they cast a boxer, I can pretend that she might be able to handle herself as a police officer.
wasn't this considered rape? >told her to stop riding his wiener like a wild shebeast 3 times >forced him to ejaculate inside >used his toothbrush after without his consent
This is problematic
My mom is approaching 70, and I've been trying to share some of my favorite shows with her over the past year as a way to spend time together. We'll meet up and watch a few episodes a week and have gone through quite a bit in the past year. We watched s1 and she loved it, she even watched the other two on her own and enjoyed them. She likes Foster and has been so excited to watch this new season with me as it airs. I'm looking forward to watching it with her and see where the story goes, but goddamn, it is blatantly POZZED THE FRICK OUT. The black woman having really dominant sex with the reddit spongebob homosexual had me cringing and looking through my fingers like Travis Bickle. The shot of Jody standing in the middle of a spiral of pictures bothers the frick out of me, why would she lay them out like that? Afaik she isn't aware of the spiral yet, it was almost like the included that shot for redditors to onions at. There was so much gay shit that I struggle to recall it all or fit it into a single post. The twin peaks references are WAAAY too fricking on the nose. This season was written more for post episode discussion on that gay site than it was to portray an artistically sound story
My mom has never seen The Thing as far as I'm aware, she's not a big horror fan. She was close to 40 when I was born so it's possible she saw it at some point. Might have to pill her on some lovecraftain kino soon. I'm sure she'd love Kurt Russel being a chad for two hours
>FBI would take over
No, because she would need to create white men characters who are not idiots.
She didnt even created forensic team, because they would need to be professional men.
The FBI can't just "take over". They have to have jurisdiction. It is very implausible that they would have so small a team on so large a disappearance though. They would have asked the National Guard to conduct search and rescue operations.
because of the thing dvd, looking at what else i can see on the media cabinet
david and goliath boardgame
forbidden island boardgame
vhs of the thing
dvds:
"min store tjocke far"
lord of the rings
license to wed
losers
kangaroo jack
american beauty
death to smoochie (i think)
nos4a2
i suppose none of them will have any significance and the thing was jst a nice easter egg
was PizzaLatte even involved in writing this season or is his name on it just because he created the show?
not involved at all
figured as much lol
>from the executive producers of...
you just know you're in for a good ride
Pizza wrote s2 and s3 tho
I didn't watch 3 (guess why)
my theory about s1 vs s2 is the guy had his whole life to come up with the story and characters for s1
and then had like six months to do that for s2 and he just choked
who knows tho
S1 was filled with plagiarized material. The whole super natural subplot is from a comic.
S2 was his original work.
>The whole super natural subplot is from a comic
what's the comic?
>S2 was his original work.
i'm an s2 apologist, but you really need to read The Big Nowhere and maybe watch Twin Peaks
Yeah the two worst seasons lol. 3 is like a hollowed out soulless attempt at recapturing the lightning in a bottle magic of s1. It's watchable but once it ends it feels about as impactful and meaningful as playing with some dollar store toy, like the ball and the cup. Cheap entertainment
like most mystery shows, the first half build up seems like a lot of cool potential.
just can't land the finish.
dementia man having flashbacks solving the case or getting confused could be cool. just the case was filled with red herrings and then had an underwhelming explanation
Pizza Lotto was told to check his privilidge and get the hell out. Producee of this show is called Princess Shaniqua or something, wish I was lying
akshuly
jesus fricking christ
She's not black, though. She's native.
she's israeli lol
If Black folk were a standard deviation higher IQ, they’d be worse than israelites
>akshuly
Frickahomie had more to do with season 1 being good than Pizza Latte.
PizzaLatte literally writes Marvel capeshit now, it's over.
Backseat driver role. He's still involved a little.
Does it actually have nice enough horror elements because it's the only reason I'd watch detective shit
Yes. I would say so.
Alright will give it a try, then.
The premise of fricked up things in the artic always draws me in assuming there's horror.
I'm guessing the other 3 seasons aren't about horror?
Season 1 has some implied supernatural occult elements
>implied
a bit more than implied I think
season 1 was all in rusty's head while he was fighting off an infection from a botched circumcision. none of it ever happened
OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAH
just a cohencidence
>I.M. Sheskin
You think she has a tunnel under the ice that connects to New York?
EVERY FRICKING TIME
JFC
>grifting israelite gets le native face tattoo in her 40s to double down on her larp
these people are disgusting
haha EXPOSE ALL PRETENDIANS
cheekstuds's mother is likely a pretendian, worth checking out
They have this complex of thinking they're fricking protagonists in a novel. This sounds like a game of thrones character crossed with johnson from accounting. Expect to see a fricking shit ton of this as time goes on, with her or Wakiti whatever his name is. Hell, I could see them even pushing for "you know maybe the mormons were right and we israelites aren't actually white, we're native american!"
yup
this is what matters now, you don't even need to be somebody, the only thing that matters is what you are
frick this gay earth
haha, oh wow
Stop using question marks at the end of statements.
>I'm guessing the other 3 seasons aren't about horror?
True Detective is an anthology show. S1 had cosmic horror elements, S2 was an LA Noir story, S3 was about being black with alzheimers.
Season 1 is probably the best Lovecraftian adaptation ever.
Season 2 is just boring LA detective shit.
Season 3 was just a Black person telling his life story like Forest Gump. It didn't really have anything to do with being a detective.
Season one is southern gothic
there are things suggestive of horror, but nothing concrete.
people saying or hearing the same cryptic "shes awake" type phrase"
animals doing weird shit.
minimal jump scare of something running in the shadow never revealed
old lady seeing someone and following them but she acknowledges that person to be dead
hint of ritualistic symbols on victims who were tortured
>animals doing weird shit.
hot
>old lady seeing someone and following them but she acknowledges that person to be dead
hot
>hint of ritualistic symbols on victims who were tortured
HOT
i will now watch your show
>"shes awake"
>she
ffs
>nothing concrete
The scientist having a small psychotic break and saying "she's awake" followed by them all disappearing isn't concrete horror? Unless he's the murderer, I don't buy that.
it is horror theme
its not concrete suprenatural themed
Because the show previously only teased the supernatural, it would be a pretty big shift in the show if it ended up actually being supernatural.
i think the whole point of the first season is that the supernatural must obviously be real to influence such insane and inate evil. the yellow king does everything taboo simply because he thinks he is gaining some supernatural power from it, and he does in his mind
Human behavior caused by belief in the supernatural is different from supernatural phenomena. There are only vague suggestions of supernatural phenomena in S1 which you can rationalize (if you wish) as Rust hallucinations or occult fanaticism. S4E1 has 3 or 4 overt supernatural events.
What supernatural events? Polar bears aren't supernatural. The woman seeing her dead husband can be rationalized as hallucination. The radio is electromagnetic, not supernatural.
You just know they will explain different people saying "she's woke" as some kind of cringe Jungian bullshit noosphere awakening after drinking dirty water
>woman has vision of her dead husband (?) pointing to the dead bodies
explicit
>two different people have the same vision of the polar bear with missing left eye
explicit
>guy has psychotic episode and says "she's awake"
between vague suggestion and explicit. leans toward explicit with added information that everyone in the building dies shortly after, unless he's the murderer. we won't know until later
>herd of elk stampeding off a cliff
between a vague suggestion and explicit
Its just the mine contaminating the water. Its pretty obvious if you watch the episode.
>First guy to get sick had just washed his face
>The Reindeer were drinking when they all went crazy
>A couple references to the water tasting bad
>The scientists bios all mention research about metal ions
Its pretty clear the mine has contaminated the water. Probably with something like Mercury and now they are all getting sick.
And the point of the toothbrush scene was also the water. The last thing that the black chick did before seeing the bear was brush her teeth (water), and with a Spongbob toothbrush no less (making damn sure you get the reference to water). Water contaminants are making them hallucinate. The show isn't supernatural.
>Its just the mine contaminating the water
That might be the story they're going for. My original point was that the pacing is fricked if they're going to rationalize the events. It's not impossible, but definitely absurd to believe the congruence of these events is due to water poisoning.
did you miss the literal dancing ghost?
Hallucination.
we are confusing supernatural with horror.
the original comment asked if there was horror. the replying comment assumed horror meant supernatural.
season 1 true detective is horror. a mysterious murder cult is horror even if there is no supernatural element
Some anon called it last thread.
The script started as a Terror modernization with a lesbian romantic duo lead and female non-American director to get diversity points on social media. They then bought True Detective IP and paid pizzaman for his name to be attached as exec producer to lure in old show fans.
But this is not a True Detective show in any way. It only seems more "paranormal" because its reference is actually S1 The Terror, not True Detective.
I wish Hollywood wasn't so cynical, it's frustrating. I won't even be pirating the rest of the season.
it BETTER be the eskimo girls spirit animal is an angry polar bear killing all the yts
if every clue shown in episode one can be discredited as a redherring and it was not some kaiser basedze deception narrative, then its pretty annoying
for a women who hates white people, she certainly is trying to rape them of their semen
her murder's already been solved
unironically convinced me
Is that my Black person Tom Noonan? Def the killer.
i want a coke now
you are the WORST kind of shitposter anon
this is a great shitpost, almost as good as the dolphin sperm / grey alien one on /x/
There's a scene where some dude is dancing weird in the snow that's pretty good. So far that's it.
One-eyed Polar Bear
Final scene of Ep. 1
That random tongue on the floor
Horror is piling up
Yeah the shitskin is horror incarnate.
20 missing white men? Don’t worry the strong negress trooper will handle it
most of them aren't white tho
the writing is hilarious
>one dead native girl
>case gets handled by smalltown cop
huuurr duuuurrr when whitey ded you call in EVERYONE
>20 whitepeople missing without a trace
>human tongue is found
>3 dead people found
>case still gets handled by smalltown cop
yep, the way she cuffed and handled a disorderly guy with one hand. fantasy land.
The guy had a concussion. When she takes her revenge later she sneak around and drops shit in his gas tank because she known she can't take him if he's in his right mind. Not because she's just a woman, but because the guy is pretty fit. She can obviously handle most ordinary guys with her skills.
This is already gonna be like the X Files episode “Ice” which was in turn an homage to The Thing
imagine an all black female remake of The Thing?
mcready would blow up the dynamite as soon as someone tried to grab her weave
Ain’t nobody truss a b***h ON GOD. I’s been up 24/7 an my weave ain’t hit the pillow like D’Shaun ain’t hit my cash app FO REAL.
well said
They'd be too busy twerkin on it
Making the Thing bust in it's drawers while they clap they booty cheeks
Its also ripping a lot from the Norweigian show called "Fortitude" except with girl bosses
You mean the British show Fortitude?
>Fortitude
Is it worth watching if I find S4's setting kino
Can’t comment, I couldn’t get into it when it aired and found the first two episodes to be a slog today. It has this unnecessary fictional political setting and there’s been a nog and a poo onscreen.
they did highlight the dvd collection "The Thing" however 40year olds isolated in the arctic would have the thing on dvd
just watched the episode, are they seriously just making a wind river tv show with this? the reveal being that all the men in one place just happen to all be psychopathic rapists and murderers? brilliant.
wind river meets insomnia (nolans best movie),only at night.
I'm assuming the blood meridian book is a nod to the rumors he's penning the movie adaption
Wind River + The Terror season one + Deadspace novels + My Winnipeg indie art flick
what is it? missing indigenous women? there's a weird jurisdiction fight and the natives don't trust the gov't
The television version of the FBI only comes in if something crosses state or national borders or unambigiously involves terrorism, basically. That's not how it actually works, but lots of things in shows like this are more about established conventions from other media than reality.
The scientists were foreign nationals, which does beg the question of how small they could actually keep the investigation.
Definitely seems like something a state CID should get involved in, but unfortunately a woman is writing this story.
How can you be north of the northernmost point on earth?
the pole is the northernmost point, its above the circle
Okay, well, while that makes sense, I think the whole naming thing is very misleading. I'll be talking to someone about this.
>fratsaIosifa
>vrangely
If you head south from any point starting at the north pole, you will always end up at the south pole, no matter the route chosen.
Half of the nordic countries are also in the article circle. Yeah Sweden and Finland do not have any land claim rights territory in the artic sea because they lack ports.
Kick his ass Nathaniel
150 north miles of the arctic circle is around 68d 45'N
probably less than 10,000 people north of that in Alaska
What are they doing up there ?
literally inbreeding like all other isolated tribes of savage monkeys
We need an aktion t4 program.
Why was everybody so relaxed after discovering an empty research station? Shouldn’t there be some rescue mission going on cause they might be trapped in the storm somewhere?
this whole scene was terrible. all that nonsense, needlessly abrasive talk, the researching the station etc. while Foster apparently knew that the people were gone for atleast 2 days AND there is a fricking human tongue on the ground? wtf
>needlessly abrasive talk
The three cops are all family. It’s a woman her ex-husband and their son. That’s why there’s an antagonistic vibe between the two older cops.
why would her son greet her with "morning chief" and answer the phone with "hey chief", why woud she have to explain to him that she's not a beatles fan, why would she ask pete if his dad ever made him sandwiches, how come her shitskin daughter never mention "brother" or a "stepfather", why would her "brother" come to babysit her, if they were fricking family, you absolute moron
and how come his dad already sacked the Black person from the force before the jody foster came to town, that would mean by the time the two end up together, make a kid, kid grows up, they split, fricking Black person would be 70yo
fricking mongrel
the number of characters and their relationships are needlessly numerous and convoluted.
a quick solution would be to kill them off
just have no names instead
>The three cops are all family. It’s a woman her ex-husband and their son. That’s why there’s an antagonistic vibe between the two older cops.
i originally thought they were exs and she was the mom as while she was stern to the young guy directly, she was soft to him if the old guy tried to be stern to him (he tells pete to speak up when briefing the team, she says i can hear him just fine for ex), and her talking shit about what kind of a father he was.
but calling her chief and being desperate to pick up the phone for a work call when about to get laid makes me thing not, but she could just be very distant.
another explanation of the animosity is they mention the old guy is the former sheriff, and jodie foster has taken over his job and she has contempt for him as she's very shitty. his son cringes when asked to go to his dads house to pick up the box and he for some reason has to hide the fact from him. maybe he's a frick up/alcoholic and she took over a disaster of a police dept she had to fix. (or he will secretly be hinding something covering up the cold case eskimo girl shit). we know that jodies character is shitty because she's always rude to nigskimo when asking if there is a connection the cold case. yes breaking into the crime scene is justifiable to be a b***h to her, but she was beforehand that provoked the cringe spirit animal retort
>while Foster apparently knew that the people were gone for atleast 2 days
the key is to keep quiet until someone else offers an explanation so you can tell them they are wrong
the whole scene is an essence of womansplaining
>researches go missing
>"all men, huh?"
not even being subtle about it
What was she even saying there?
because it's only the white men
bad writing, bad directing
When they cut out that lady's tongue, they accidentally summoned Tuunbaq
MR. HICKEY!
now that the dust has settled, whats the consensus?
I figured I'd pass on this season since Pizza isnt involved, but is it worth checking out?
its worth it if you like spoopy mysteries and can ignore the Netflix tier subplots
It was bad, the only thing it had going for it was the TD brand name to bring people in and it completely squandered it with a mediocre first episode that was basically an X-Files episode with two poorly written leads
It was shit. They're going for lovecraftian horror
>scientists digging to find the origin of life
>whistling ambience
>star-shaped stab wounds
the episode was peppered with a dozen or so reminders of how incompetent or evil white men are.
digging to find the origin of life
ambience
>>star-shaped stab wounds
just sounds like a visit to an average new york synagogue
>They're going for lovecraftian horror
red herrings. unironically whte men will be the horror. trust me.
If so then I don't get why they're shoving the supernatural stuff down our throats. Is it just bad writing? I already know the answer but I'm mad
>she's awake
>one-eyed polar bear
>vision of the dead guy
Full of queerness and interracial relationships. Blue hair, awful piercings, a woman of color dominating some dude in bed. It's quite a bit of in-your-face wokeness. I wanted to get into it, I really did.
but blue hair is a legit schizo
no it was shit
>t. S1 enjoyer, S2 appreciator, S3 ignorer
Its pretty trash. It already has a black chick beating up guys twice her size, lame lesbian romances, and it feels like Lost where it just sets up tons of unrelated mysteries that you know will never get resolved.
The show also feels like oddly low stakes for what is happening. An entire team of international scientists are missing, and there is like zero urgency to investigate or find them.
>An entire team of international scientists are missing, and there is like zero urgency to investigate or find them.
You think that'd be something to get a lot more state and federal assets involved. Hell you'd also think whoever is fricking paying for the place would be up in arms. They have millions of dollars worth of equipment and who knows how much valuable intellectual property.
Season 1, episode 1. They find the deer antler girl who is a single dead prostitute. In that episode, in the background at the crime scene is a whole team of crime scene investigators cataloging shit. The police chief briefs an entire detective's office on the findings and discusses the media frenzy. The governor talks about setting up a task force. Every civilian they come across is aware of the murder.
In this episode, the are 3 cops looking around the entire artic base for a few minutes, and then they all just leave. There is no media, and no manhunt. There seem to be only two detectives assigned to the case at all. No one outside the police department seems to aware of the disappearance.
And it works against the show. Because why should I care about the central mystery if none of the characters seem to care? I can intuit that the lack of initiative will be a plot point later though. I think Jodie is an inside man sent to cover up for the cult.
I was thinking exactly of the contrast between the two crime scenes. A buddy and I are pretty sure this is going to essentially be the plot of "Fortitude" mixed with "The Terror."
>mining causing ice to melt
>releases weird bacteria or something that makes people go crazy
>mine company pays for research station that discovers this
>murdered chick also found out about this via one of the scientists
>gets murdered by someone, either some of the scientists or mine people or both
>Native Spirits involved maybe?
I dunno, it just seems dumb. As flayed as seasons 2 and 3 were, their first episodes at least made me want to keep watching. This didn't.
I think you are probably pretty close. Jodie Foster will be revealed to be an inside man in on the coverups though. It was pretty obvious to me from Episode 1 that she was sent there originally to help cover up the tongue girl's murder. She is oblivious to the current happening though.
>lame lesbian romances
whats that?
the teens filming themselves?
or the eskimo calming her schizo sister?
> lame lesbian romances,
Is that what we call child grooming now?
Nope, only reason is to hate watch
I didn't start thinking maybe there was some actual supernatural elements in S1 till maybe the fifth or sixth episode.
This time? Well, hard to think there's anything but supernatural spooky shit going on right form the get-go.
Blacks and Indians aren't supernatural, they're subnatural
FBI can't step in unless asked to, or they suspect corruption. Seeing as how S4 is already trying to copy S1's mystery setting i'm guessing S4 involves some conspiracy cult that local politicians probably don't want uncovered; thus, FBI will not be asked to step in because those politicians likely have the necessary people bribed. S1 is no different. A serial kidnap/killer would have the FBI on it irl, but the whole story is that locals are also in on it and ultimately Marty and Rust only take out the "killer" and not actually the cult. It's very clear there's more to the story in S1 that was left undiscovered, but the local authorities closed the case.
Jodie is in on the cult. That's why she was sent there to investigate the missing tongue girl and ended up getting the black chick kicked off the case. Jodie's was dispatched to cover it up. The guy hording all the boxes is a red herring. Its presented as though he may be trying to bury the case file, but the reality is he took it to keep it away from Jodie since he suspects her in a coverup.
im gonna piss myself if s4 is just wind river with occultism cranked up.
too cold. too far away. let the locals handle it
we'll just stay here where it's warm and continue to bust kids for copyright infringement
does it have time travel again? Is it nice and Meta? Some ugly black chick who everyone pretends is a super hot sexbomb?
So I'm only about 10 minutes in, but the Arthur Gordon Pym (Poe) reference is pretty evident with the "Tsalal" thing. Are there any other references apart from what's already been discussed?
references?
What do you mean?
why yes i would rather watch the thing.
Bro, we know you are browsing the plebbit thread that listed all the references
I read the book, anon. That's the only reason I know it. I read that one and the Mat Johnson one. It's a very distinctive name for a thing and is impossible to forget once you know it.
Go back, both of you.
>one pop song for every fricking scene
That shit was so annoying
If they go the full mountain of madness route, horrors beyond comprehension, which they seem to bem, this season could be kino even with the blatant propaganda
Also jodie foster is agreat actress and she could probably carry this
hello hbo
not everyone is a shill
you have to be a brainwashed moron to not think it would be kino if they went the full route s01 only hinted at
I doubt they have the creativity to do it properly tho
there hasn't been a single black man so far and white men are being used as breeding stock so this is propoganda I can get behind
False
>mountain of madness route
Its leaning into a little, but they are making it about old Indian feminists spirits instead of Lovecraftian Gods. They are doing a WE WUZ LOVECRAFT, same as Lovecraft Country did.
>same as Lovecraft Country did
I liked the first story of that book, but the second one was incredibly hamfisted. Also I remember a lib friend of mine complaining about how hamfisted the show was too.
>WE WUZ LOVECRAFT
Yep, ripping the good imagery and symbolism and bastardizing the themes.
>the pursuit of forbidden knowledge by humans unleashes unknown cosmic horror
is
>the pursuit of forbidden knowledge by white men unleashes women on men
Jodie you know I love you but this just looks so bad
What other tv series with horror elements set in the artic or somewhere like it?
I can't even think of anything other than Terror S01 and Fortitude in a way.
>What other tv series with horror elements set in the artic or somewhere like it?
the north water - no supernatural stuff, just 1800s brits trying not to die in the arctic. visually kino. story was ok, they included some elements i dont know how much it added
Too many supernatural elements. None of them can be attributed to LSD hallucinations like with Rust. So I wonder what the FRICK are they doing? Will they go full Lovecraft?
the mine accidentally unfroze an old virus or something
Or they contaminated the water with some fricked up chemical they are using to secretly drill for oil or mine some ore. Metal smelting and lithography are also industrial processes that require chemicals you can repurpose for making hallucinogens so there's that angle toom
hm. that one guy did say the water has been gone for three days
officer cheekstuds brushes her teeth then hears "she's awake" and sees the one-eyed polar bear
officer oldc**t brushes her teeth before bed and is awoken with a hand on her arm hearing "she's awake" and finds a one-eyed polar bear plushie doll on the ground by her bed
Yeah, I know they are pushing the spirit angle hard. I noticed all that. But it's the usual switcheroo I think. They want you to anticipate the big reveal and it turns out that someone is trying to cover a crime by making it seem like its a sea God doing it except there's some half baked scientific explanation for it all that they reveal in flashbacks where they give you extra information they withheld when setting up the story. It's boring. There are lots of ways they could go and they'll do a clumsy job no matter which direction they go. If I don't care about the character it's hard to care what happens.
If they dont go with tongueless girls vengeful spirit animal it’ll be a white nale mining/research exec doing it to cover up the opportunity to make a shitload of money. No way its a native death cult, while the most interesting it would run counter to the grain of the showrunners clear agenda
Yeah, it would be cool if the rich white guys and the natives were both trying to do some fricked up voodoo together. That would be newer and fresher.
Imagine a scene where the ugly cop busts into the underground research station and its chad mcbrad the mining exec with chief inkonface summoning cosmic horror into the researchers/natives bodies. That’d be just about the only way the show could surprise me
Exactly. Something like that. Hell, maybe some Uber rich Zuckerberg type took a tour up in the arctic and found out about this spirit and he's powerful and rich enough to be the Native's patron. They use his resources to access their ancestral land which he gets by creating and NGO to take it from the Mining company. So you have a three way conflict. The detectives think its the Mine company that's the bad guy but it turns out they are fighting this rich weirdo and his cult too.
What's cool about the supernatural nature of season 1 is that it doesn't require that it be "real". As long as the cult believes in it, it's real enough to be a danger to anyone that the evil takes an interest in. Rust is just uniquely open to seeing the world the way the cult members do because they share some philosophical common ground. I've had some spooky synchronicities while I was tripping that share that quality. You couldn't empirically prove they happened but they meant something to me, and I shared the experience with othe people
>I've had some spooky synchronicities while I was tripping that share that quality. You couldn't empirically prove they happened but they meant something to me, and I shared the experience with othe people
Oh well thanks for your input Captain Fricko, I'll be sure to write it down, just give me a second to grab my "Things I will never give a shit about" folder
Thanks. I know my input is needed because people like you have nothing to say. Who would say a thing for you to criticize if cool people with good opinions like myself weren't around to give you something to reeee about. Lol
>Speaking with Hola, Season 4 writer Issa Lopez shared how much research she did on Alaska for the series, confirming that she had "never been to Alaska and certainly not that part of Alaska" before working on the story.
never been to alaska and certainly not that part of alaska
>I’ve never been to that place and certainly not that part of that place that I’ve never been too.
This person that HBO is paying millions to run their show can’t even clearly communicate a simple concept such as
>I have never been this location.
it's verbose midwit speak, but if you watch interviews on s1 pizzo speaks the same way. uses 3 words where 1 works, uses words incorrectly. I think it's just california brain
if only there was another detective show released today
So the scenario is the daughter is collaborating with the father, the gunshot was her starting to execute the nuns,, right?
Incredibly comfy first episode with a hard hook at the end. Exactly what Night Country tried to do, except Lopez can’t write for shit. NC would’ve benefitted immensely by frontloading the boring town drama in the first half, then bringjng the characters together at the research station in the last 20-30 minutes.
from the creator of oz?
im in(side your anus)
>monsieur
Dropped
>John Hawkes has to debase himself with this shit
My homie deserved better
>she is awake
What did he mean by this
Pretty sure they already referred to her as "queen of the night" and it began as soon as the sun disappeared.
>Queen of the night
When was that mentioned?
had to been in the first 15-20 minutes
they were blathering names left and right with seemingly poor audio fidelity to actually tell what they were saying but pretty sure its when they got disapepared at the research station?
Bad question mark again. You don't learn.
Can anyone explain how seasons 1-3 are connected?
Are all the rich and influential people apart of the Carcosa cult? Does the Carcosa cult run the mine, and the scientist find out that the mine was fricking up the environment and they sacrificed them? The one guy did say that the water went bed 3 days ago, so maybe there chemicals in the water fricking with people?
>Can anyone explain how seasons 1-3 are connected?
they aren't
i have not seen them in years
s1 - old louisiana family cult with branches to the highest levels of political power
s2 - rich old californians connected with eastern european mob, prostituting young women
s3 - isolated incident one rich family trying to placate their insane daughter who lost a child
>eastern european mob
oy vey
Rust mentions that he is from Alaska and his dad’s name is Travis.
The dead man that guides rose to the bodies name is Travis.
both rust and his hypothetical mom have schizo hallucinations that lead them to discovery
rust never mentions his dad's name
imagine typing more words to be wrong instead of just checking yourself, let this be a lesson in how profoundly moronic you are in asserting something you are unsure of
They are going to retroactively ruin season 1 aren't 1, aren't they? They are going to make Rust part of some psychic magic wizard family like he is a fricking Jedi.
but he was a jedi
how does ferris beuhler parade scene stuck on repeat play into all of this?
was it just to cue of a jodie foster joke and it could have been any dvd scene stuck on tv?
he's the sausage king of chicago you BIGOT
don't know why the dvd was on loop but i bet that jodie's character was involved in some drunk driving accident that killed someone and the beatles' "shake it up baby" was playing at the time which is why she hates the song
I was expecting him to show up on the finale to set up the next season because everything about this shit seems so desperate, but after this episode there's no chance he'd have agreed.
this seems to be an independent show that was pitched as "night country" and the only way an exec agreed to it is what if we branded it as true detective "night country"
and despite being only 6 episodes, the dropoff rate of viewers not finishing it promptly will lead to the true detective franchise to finally be laid to rest
The series is just moving further and further from detective work so it begs the question of WHY
girls and guys that follow girl internet trends follow the narrative hard.
true detective being "the best show ever" (but not season 2 because ) (season 3 is kind of forgotten) is reason enough for all of us to tune in.
but the b***hing about the show will be very entertaining i must remindmyself.
Rust did say he spent some time in Alaska...
>Alaska
They should have gone back to the 60s/70s and made this season about Rust's dad.
1st season magic will never be coming back anon. That was a fluke. I actually kind of liked Season 2, it was just impossible to follow up on season 1. Season 3.. Started off shit. Got better. Then got weirder and I dont even know how it ended.
I had to get past the gay motorcycle cop and his lame problems and the weird over acting from Colin Farrell but I generally liked seasons 1-3. I memed about the nig from season 3 but he was a good character so I can forgive it. The hard part was hearing they were going to make a third season and everyone knew it was going to star a Black person because racism gives you telepathy. Then we hear there's a season 4, but it's all women and chugs and Black folk and it's exactly as I expected it would be. Racism really takes some mystery out of the world. You know exactly what to expect
because racism is removing the limitations and cognitive dissonances to clear up your pattern recognition
I dunno, this season is kinda interesting because they hate white people but LOVE hot white men age 18-30 apparently
Of course, you hate what you want but can't have.
I liked the gay cop because it was an honest portrayal of how debilitating the illness is.
What about the shootout?
S1 had the bikers/gang bangers
S2 had the shootout with the Vatos
S3 had the rednecks vs the native American nam vet
Will S4 have a shootout episode?
nigskimo vs lovecraftian horror
>Lovecraftian
Anon, please
nta but it's blatantly lovecraftian. as stated in thread already
>scientists digging into the ice searching for the origin of life
>primitive religion
>star-shaped stab wounds on bodies from unknown object
>star-shaped stab wounds on bodies from unknown object
If they pull out Elder Things from their ass this will be the greatest piece of Lovecraftian TV ever.
obvs ode to lost+happy gilmore
>finish episode 1
>instead of a teaser for episode 2 they show a trailer that spoils the whole shit
Why are women so bad at everything bros
MYSTERY BOXES
Le vengeful female spirit
They wasted the budget on Foster and CGI reindeer, rather than on writing staff
>caribou distinctly makes an elk call
>1/5 stars
it came out from the strike that writers are mostly all salary. so there's just this layer of twitter normies and woke crusaders revolving through every script in panels the size of small towns
If it doesn't have a scene where the monster shows up and goes "I'M THE TRUE DETECTIVE HERE! I'M IN FRICKING CHARGE, YOU HEAR ME, WOMAN???" then it's trash
i think the bigboss white man is next episode
Frick Eccleston is in this shitshow? that's depressing
Man this first episode fricking sucked. The polar bear with the fricked up eye was gay. The nig-chug is ugly and unlikable. The forced backstory exposition between all the chugs and the white people like the daughters. The tone is wrong. The sound track is trash. I don't want to get to know these characters. That's probably the worst indictment of the show. Who cares? They don't make the setting interesting. It's a waste of money that could have made a better season of some other story
>nig-chug is ugly
Say what you will, but she's got a great body.
Anyway you frickers are throwing a fit over the FIRST episode. Two days ago I saw people complaining about not enough research station ON THE FIRST EPISODE holy shit. You buttholes type as if you had already watched the whole season.
Still I agree everyone in this season so far is uninteresting and it really feels like a different, worse show. It's really noticeable the new showrunner is terrible.
They are intentionally making her face ugly
I'm not attracted to female MMA fighters or gorillas in underarmor. It's my own personal taste but I have pretty broad tastes and most people are going to agree with me that she's an uggo even if she has good genetics for making boys. The face piercings make her even uglier. And there's no depth to her character. She's aggressive, not bright, touchy and sensitive about race when she's supposedly a cop with years of experience working in a small town. It's just really lame writing. A fantasy of wish fulfillment for a mind sick on liberalism, rather than a fully fleshed out character. Woody Harrelson told you more about his whole character with the way he sold himself to the detectives interviewing him in the first episode of season one than we have learned through blunt exposition in this first episode.
>there's no depth to her character. She's aggressive, not bright, touchy and sensitive about race when she's supposedly a cop with years of experience working in a small town. It's just really lame writing
I agree that a bunch of her so far feels like it's just obligatory Female Empowerment, but so far we've only seen one character, so it's way too early to go judging the character. I do fear the whole season is gonna be a shit show, but I can't say for now.
>I'm not attracted to female MMA fighters or gorillas in underarmor
She looks nowhere like a gorilla, though. But yeah, she's not pretty and the piercings are moronic.
It took S1E1 15~ minutes to leave its opening crime scene.
S4E1 was there for 7~ minutes, with 1 of those devoted to 'I don't like the Beetles' and telling the old man he's a shit dad.
Not only was there not enough research station, there wasn't enough anything plot-related for a 6-episode season that cares more about teenage lesbian sextapes than actually investigating its murder.
>You buttholes type as if you had already watched the whole season.
It's called pattern recognition.
Kys your disgusting pervert.
Not only is the soundtrack shit but the audio mixing seems to be nonexistent, though that may have been my rip.
You homies think there might be something interesting about the cop being a vet and having some flashbacks about her time in Iraq or whatever? That scene where she talks to the soldier with half a head was pretty spooky.
No. Because that character is played by somebody who cannot act.
a cop that was in the military no waaaaayyy wowwwwwwww
>water goes bad
>ugly cop brushes her teeth
>hallucinates a polar bear
It's some bacteria/virus. Case closed fellas.
the elk at the beginning of the episode?
the scientist going schizo and saying "she's awake"?
it was the homebrew beer guy he gave schizo beer to the animals, his spongebob toothbrush had schizo beer traces on it too
the funny thing is the lead actress' mother is a pretendian.
Le vengeful Indian goddess punishing evil rapist men
Ripoff from Brian Evenson’s Deadspace novels
do you actually enjoy this?
I am "one of those guys", you already know what I'm gonna say. But I won't say it. Am I in the wrong? is the show "okay" or even "good" ???
>do you actually enjoy this?
there were too many microaggressions against me as the viewer, but i tolerate it because shitposting about a show that has collective buzz is very fun
Here's your horrifying lovecraftian entity bro
A mermaid?
Just don't go near the sea.
is the drawing by the little boy what the monster is?
It's sedna the inuit goddess of the ocean and the underworld. She was cast Into the ocean by her father and when she tried to get back on the boat he cut her fingers off. Her fingers became the first fish in the sea. She's associated with punishing sexual criminals.
so it is the terror + wind river
FBI is on a different network
This show makes Alaska look really impoverished.
Anywhere with chugs is poor. They don't like to work or take care of anything. They just sit around resentful and drunk and molest their kids. It's a bad scene.
There is a reason they have to pay people to live up there.
By most standards, it is.
By most standards, most of rural America is impoverished.
I am not Alaskan, mind you, but I believe Juno is their only real 'modern' city. They just don't have a reason- population or industry wise- to condense and urbanize. The Dakotas are another good example of this, though in a more livable environment.
I got Juno and Anchorage confused.
Because you’re a moronic talking out your ass about shit you know nothing about
this is the northern part of alaska where its mines, eskimos, and research bases.
i duno if in trailer or ep 1 they mention considering sending some forensics to anchorage.
>"maybe it'll finally be as good as S1"
>feminist fantasy
>american politics
>blakk ppl good whitey bad
why is every new show like this, do people really enjoy it?
Direction and pacing was all over the place
music was whatever. and the whole intent to present it as sobrenatural was a bad choice, shoehorned, ham-fisted
Jodie was literally the best part of it
>fricking white peepol
enough, this is straight up childish
this is not True detective
I have zero hopes for it to be good
Why do the Ennis PD patches say “APF” on them?
APF = Agua Por Favor = Schizo water theory confirmed
I can't believe they're just gonna do The Terror with womyn
they blew up the whole mystery of it on the first episode, it's so obvious
what I found odd was at the end of the credits it goes
>based on the series true detective created by nicky pizza
>created by Issa whatever
yeah that shits weird that b***h didnt create shit
>white people bad, especially men
canceled my Max membership, expires tomorrow.
man this is boring. no tension or momentum to this dumb mystery at all
Why is it only 6 episodes this time around?
because 6 looks like the spiral
S1 was good because rust was cool 10 years ago, woody is a great actor, the one shot scene was amazing and they flirted and hinted with all that lovercraftian horror. And still the ending sucked. It was a mix of good things that gave us a good season but it should have ended right there. Later attempts to revive the series are pathetic
>ending sucked
get fricked moron, there is no cosmic horror, there is no great intangible evil, its just us, alone, with all of our depravity and sin, and the guilt is ours to bear alone, not God's.
Honestly a good change of pace from all the white men in media yall. It's not perfect but it's a start.
>man getting strongarm raped in the first episode
have a nice day Black person
>surely the FBI would take over a case of this magnitude?
Once they found the bodies at least. We'll probably see FBI next episode.
why does the smiley face wink?
Because
>the killed native girl was missing her right eye
>the bear is missing its right eye
why does the jacket appear on different people?
Because the dude killed the girl and took the jacket.
Dammit first the terror now sopranos
>the dude killed the girl and took the jacket.
there better be a pretty good explanation why he's kept the jacket
pretty cute parka anon, shame to not use it
How do I get a gf like this?
become a woman
when was the last truly great hbo show
Chernobyl.
And even that wasn’t entirely HBO
Why do they refuse to cast good looking niggresses? I've seen beautiful black police officers in crime videos on youtube so i know they exist but in cinema we only get ogre ass looking creatures.
Thats exactly the point - the mediocrity and banal lack of aesthetics is meant to demoralize you, much like bauhaus architecture and fashion and auto design. The denial of beauty, and thus truth, is purposefully used to grind out mans sense of meaning, hope, and aspirations for a better world. I see more attractive women manning the registers at grocery stores for fricks sake.
If they cast some dainty pretty girl, everyone would be pissing and shidding themselves over how unbelievable it is that a woman can do anything. At least when they cast a boxer, I can pretend that she might be able to handle herself as a police officer.
beautiful people wouldn't live in arctic circle
I do not much care for women nor minorities in my television programs
wasn't this considered rape?
>told her to stop riding his wiener like a wild shebeast 3 times
>forced him to ejaculate inside
>used his toothbrush after without his consent
This is problematic
no a man has no choice if a woman decides to become pregnant its her body and she can do what she wants chud
god i wish that were me
Absolutely disgusting.
My mom is approaching 70, and I've been trying to share some of my favorite shows with her over the past year as a way to spend time together. We'll meet up and watch a few episodes a week and have gone through quite a bit in the past year. We watched s1 and she loved it, she even watched the other two on her own and enjoyed them. She likes Foster and has been so excited to watch this new season with me as it airs. I'm looking forward to watching it with her and see where the story goes, but goddamn, it is blatantly POZZED THE FRICK OUT. The black woman having really dominant sex with the reddit spongebob homosexual had me cringing and looking through my fingers like Travis Bickle. The shot of Jody standing in the middle of a spiral of pictures bothers the frick out of me, why would she lay them out like that? Afaik she isn't aware of the spiral yet, it was almost like the included that shot for redditors to onions at. There was so much gay shit that I struggle to recall it all or fit it into a single post. The twin peaks references are WAAAY too fricking on the nose. This season was written more for post episode discussion on that gay site than it was to portray an artistically sound story
what did you're mum think about the thing being in their kino collection?
My mom has never seen The Thing as far as I'm aware, she's not a big horror fan. She was close to 40 when I was born so it's possible she saw it at some point. Might have to pill her on some lovecraftain kino soon. I'm sure she'd love Kurt Russel being a chad for two hours
you have to clue her in on the little kino drops
you're a good lad for spending time with your Mum anon
That’s comfy anon.
>spiral
Jodie Foster is the killer. The spiral really drives that point home.
Tfw we could have got indian kino with a stoic male lead like hawk
Tfw we get some pretendian
>FBI would take over
No, because she would need to create white men characters who are not idiots.
She didnt even created forensic team, because they would need to be professional men.
S1>S3>S2>S4
They managed to make everyone unlikable and their agendas are far too obvious.
> S1>S3>S2>S4
Make sure you include this in every post, that way non-morons can ignore it immediately.
The FBI can't just "take over". They have to have jurisdiction. It is very implausible that they would have so small a team on so large a disappearance though. They would have asked the National Guard to conduct search and rescue operations.
So the pitch for the season was "It's basically like Scooby Doo episode but for womanchildren"?
Where else does the spiral come up?
The mail-order bride thing was funny. I felt bad for him.
because of the thing dvd, looking at what else i can see on the media cabinet
david and goliath boardgame
forbidden island boardgame
vhs of the thing
dvds:
"min store tjocke far"
lord of the rings
license to wed
losers
kangaroo jack
american beauty
death to smoochie (i think)
nos4a2
i suppose none of them will have any significance and the thing was jst a nice easter egg