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Is it just me or was the Cell saga shit?
>literally still the pinnacle of the entire franchise
It's you, homosexual.
Goku going full super Saiyan was the pinnacle of the series, this is literally undebatable.
It's shit but the SS2 transformation is fun
Felt pretty mediocre compared to the Frieza and Buu saga.
>Buu saga
racist frog poster
The cell games nonsense was trash. Why would they agree to fight him one on one?
Are there any fights in DBZ where it's not just a sequence of 1v1s? Besides Raditz
DBZ Dead Zone Goku fights all of Garlic Jr's thugs at once.
Revenge of Cooler has two of them. Once with Goku and once with Picollo.
Oh, and I think that the Bardock movie had one or two of these.
They had no choice. And it's literally only like 2 matches bro. IT's not like he actually went through the entire roster 1v1
Goku is canon a moron who just likes to fight and eat. He's literally never been to school and is a redneck raised in the wilderness. Chi-Chi has to force him to frick because he just wants to fight and eat. He could've raped Bulma like a thousand times as a kid, but he just wanted to fight and eat, so Yamcha took advantage. But he's the strongest person on the planet, so his friends just respect his moronic wishes. and that includes fighting some moronic version of honorably.
it's not honor, it's selfishness. goku and vegeta always want to face the toughest challenges possible
DBZ is really a big story about the consequences of Pride
Buy also the reward of having faith. Not even just when it comes to the dragonballs.
very true.
Goku (Toriyama) wanted Gohan to win the fight so he set it up that way
And it was very cool when he did
Because of the Saiyan blood, remember that he has Goku's and Bejita's DNA so he's moronic
I'd say it's my favorite Z saga
As a soon to be broken anon once said "You're either perfect or you're not the cell saga"
Android and Cell Saga were both a bunch of "hurry up and stop" with its pacing and story. That said, I still liked them.
Cell Saga only really works because everyone is acting stupider than usual. You went from Vegeta being a one man army on Namek to "yes please turn perfect Cell, absolutely nothing can go wrong with this".
No, it was shit. It was also really good, which is annoying. This is mainly because the Android portion of the saga made things feel really wild. The flashbacks and the History of Trunks added a sense of grandiosity. In hindsight, it's a chore to watch because:
>Vegeta sucked
He's Frieza tier on the villain scale, watching him be a slightly good saboteur just becames annoying. The idea that he gives a shit about being the Saiyan prince when there is only one Saiyan left is just gay. The agency and motivation he had on Namek is gone. Now he's just a gay Piccolo without the soulful arc.
>Trunks was cool, then boring
They tried to replicate the magic that Gohan and Piccolo had to redeem Vegeta, but it clearly didn't work. The only payoff we get is when Trunks loses it and kicks Vegeta across the planet, but it should've happened much sooner. This is also undermined by Trunks hiding his full power because he's scared to upset daddy. Just makes him seem like a cuck.
>Tien blasts Cell
The coolest part of the Saga, right? Yes, but it's just another incident in a string of 1 on 1 fights that leave you wondering why the character didn't just jump in earlier, but don't leave you wondering what's gonna happen. Aside from the kino roadside fight with 17/18, the entire saga can be remembered as a series of matchups. You can imagine the chapter covers trying to hype you as they went up for sale. Ending it with a superficial tourny just shows you what it was all along. Namek, on the other hand felt like an adventure. It had 1 on 1 fights and mad skirmishes.
>tien
saddest thing I hated was the humans not getting greater in strength.
Yeah, especially because the show was so much more intense when you had Krillin fighting Dodoria, Recoome, Frieza. Your 12-year-old mind saw him as a lovable pussy, but the truth was he brought so much tension to the show. Punctuated with bouts of Vegeta taking out Frieza's henchmen and you had a recipe for kino.
The Android Saga was the perfect opportunity to reset the power creep. Here's what I expected:
>Piccolo is the strongest
>Vegeta is trying to resurrect his planet but Piccolo keeps him in check, switches allegiances to whomever can help him achieve this
>Tien is roughly the same strength as Vegeta, wants revenge (they hinted at this based dynamic but Tien as too weak to make it interesting)
>Keep Yamcha's original hair and role as the cool-but-lame older brother type with some badass moves, you don't even need Trunks
>Keep Yamcha and Bulma as the based himbo/nerd enduring couple
>Frick the editors, keep Gero as the main baddie running around and scheming
>Keep the chase stuff and inability to sense power levels: Bulma, Yajirobe and Oolong are suddenly relevant as vehicle operators. Intrigue, guile, urban warfare, apocalyptic themes.
>Vegeta's arc ends with finding a worthy lord, he kneels to Gohan
>Then segway this into a wholesome arc where Gohan flies around with his lil bro, goes to high school, makes friends, gets pussy, fights crime.
>Frick the editors, keep Gero as the main baddie running around and scheming
I often wonder what toriyama had planned for Gero. I imagine it would have been similar to the imperfect cell portion, having sneak around and absorb people, maybe he would have released 17 and 18 to distract everyone while he got stronger. Could have been really cool. As messy as the cell saga is I have to give toriyama credit considering he was getting fricked around so much by the editors.
those HS episodes where gohan was ingratiating himself with videl... that was some filler right there
Started out weird then got interesting then got kinda messy but it ended really good.
The Saiyan Saga was the peak. Namek was passable but took way too long and power levels were starting to become bullshit.
>Upbeat jazz starts playing
Is Bruce's music kino?
Why didn't they leave the jap music
>Why didn't they leave the jap music
either copyrights too expensive or it wasn't "cool" enough
>Seto Kaiba narrates the rap
>Yami narrates the original
because it sucks
Copyright issues
let's put it this way; dbz is unintelligible chink nonsense without it
Yes
Why do the Japanese hate Cell so much?
dubs superior to subs:
>DBZ (Faulconer version only)
>FMA
>Kenshin
>YuYu Hakusho
>Yu-Gi-Oh (takes itself less seriously)
>4Kids One Piece (wan piss is garbage meant for babies, at least the US dub made it memeable)
I prefer jap voice acting in dragon ball to dubbed but yeah the bruce faulconer soundtrack is kino
i'm glad there's at least one person who understands this.
YWNBAW
Cowboy Bebop
Samurai Champloo
The Big O
trigun
You are a stupid fricking moron. Frick off
Bobobo bo bobobo is also way better in English
Most of the dialogue in dbz sounds like a man trying to give birth, no matter the language. Is it really worth arguing about?
Over half of each episode is HRRRRRRRRR GRRRRRRRRR RAWWWWWWW HAAHHHHHHH. Sometimes the whole episode. And then you have to tune in next week to find out what happens next on dragonball zeeeeeeee
You only like Shitconer because you grew up with it.
The show should've ended after Frieza considering. Goku going super Sayan for the first time was the pinnacle point of the entire franchise
Do you understand how money works, gaygit?
arrgh why do my punches always miss you
Cell should have come first, then Frieza and call it a day.
Frick Buu saga.
Im glad i grow up with the original Dragon Ball US Version is fricking dogshit
Everyone who says this is without fail some frail, pencil necked limp wristed homosexual. The Faulconer dub is a dramatic improvement to the series, goku in japanese sounds like a 12 year old girl not a fully grown man. Roids in the form of a soundtrack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP06Xdx9Arc
Going thru the original DB and its so damn kino, forgot how much better it is than Z.
Z is still good though, Super is meh.
GT I like some sections, thought it was kino that the last boss of the series where the actual dragon balls, but the execution was poor.
Super is like all the shit kids liked about DBZ with no real soul. It's pretty much just endless fighting and power ups.
Goku was the coolest character and vegeta is a sniveling beta rebeller. Stay mad, chumps!
3-0 is canon. Now cope in silence.
a beat-down of epic proportions
god Goku's dialogue makes him sound like such a b***h in this arch
He was still operating under Kid Goku mindset. That's sort of the point to his dramatic personality change when he goes Super Saiyan.
look @ that torque.
the movies had some really weird music to differentiate them from the show
Everything after Freiza is non canon
Why is HxH so fricking bad?
Perfect
Frieza saga was the most kino
how much better is dbz than super?
It's so much better it's unreal. DBZ only actually becomes bad at the Buu saga. Before that it's just after hit after hit. This includes DB.
how much super have you watched? I watched 80 so far and it's a chore
I bailed in the middle of the tournament. It just sucks. The animation. The VAs no longer feel like they give a shit. The aesthetic/designs. It's all just bad. This isn't even a case of Rose Tinted Glasses. A simple example can be used to compare what I mean and that's the build-up of tension and release of the various powerful attacks. See: Vegeta's Final Flash against Cell vs Vegeta's Final Flash during any post Z media. I hate it. It just sucks. Super to me is like Zombie Simpsons. Only exists to make money.
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AND I GUESS THERE IS NO OTHER WAY
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Litterally every DBZ thread has the same circle jerk
>The series should have ended Piccolo vs Goku
>The series should have ended with Frieza
>The series should have ended with Cell
>NOO WHY IS THE main character GETTING ALL THE FOCUS
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Cells theme is kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpkeAQG6kQw
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