Why is the 1987 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles still held in such high regard when it's so painfully low effort since it came from a bygone era of extended toy commercials like filmation's He-Man? The best thing I can say about this show is that the surrounding media (Konami games and 1990 movie) were all much better than the actual cartoon they were spawned from.
Nowadays you can talk shit about any other TMNT incarnation but for some reason is the 80s show is put upon an untouchable pedestal by dudes in their forties because it's what they grew up with and came first.
This show is still the best TMNT, with the best April for that matter.
30-40 years old can't handle being told what they grew up on was shit
t.30-40 year old
Yes, being part of the multimedia hype package helped a lot, you can't detach one from the other because they all used same designs and major plot points.
I recently played through Shredder's Revenge and a recurring thought I had about it was that the energy of this game did not match how mundane the actual 80s cartoon was. It's a great game but misrepresented how boring and disposable the original cartoon was.
Because its a seminal work. Its success and popularity despite it's perceived lack of quality on your part is responsible for an entire genre of comics, cartoons, and video games.
Biker Mice from Mars
Street Sharks
Swat Katz
Road Rovers
Extreme Dinosaurs
Battletoads
The Adventures of T-Rex
Samurai Pizza Cats
Wild West C.O.W. Boys of Moo Mesa
Stone Protectors
Snailiens
Gargoyles
Mighty Ducks: The Animated Series
Bucky O’Hare and the Toad Wars
Mummies Alive
Dinosaucers
Cyberfrog
The list of series that got greenlit because of how popular Turtles 87 was spans multiple decades and is insanely long
>Samurai Pizza Cats
I don't think so chief
I specifically meant the localization, not the original Japanese. I don't know enough about Kyatto Ninden Teyandee to say for sure.
Although it was apparently still a 4th wall breaking action comedy anime about cyborg ninja cats that work out of a pizzeria that came out in 1990, three years after TMNT debuted.
It's not like Japan was unaware of the Ninja Turtles either.
So you can draw your own conclusions.
>the surrounding media (Konami games and 1990 movie)
This is a big part of it I'd imagine. I loved TMNT as a kid, including the show, but don't remember the show as well as the games and toys.
Even as a kid I realized that the actual show itself was the weakest aspect of the merch machine.
I used to love it when it came on and the episode they were showing was reruns from that initial mini series.
The animation was better, the story was plotted better and there were actual fights.
nostalgia, the other incarnations do a lot of things better but this is the one most people know, 2012 is a close second with almost more popularity but with no nostalgia factor style guide turtles are even a thing which are even more iconic then the cartoon that people forget that the turtles don't look like that
>'87 is back in the forefront yet again
>the same whine and cheese from the homosexuals who wienersuck the supposed "better incarnations"
Maybe if this franchise wasn't in danger of extinction every now and then because you fricks don't put your money where your mouth is, they wouldn't have to keep dragging '87 back in
So is this the new thing? Instead of doing 3 2003 threads a day that all fall off the board within the hour because nobody cares, you're just gonna post 3 threads a day whining that people like 87?
funny enough, the artwork used to advertise the konami games most of the time didn't used the 87 show but instead had more comic-inspired boxarts
Any headband color other than red is a cartoon convention.
Fred Wolf’s Studio apparently still owns the rights of the 80s show itself
nick can not use any part of the fred wolf show
>but the crossover and nick all star brawl
the style guide turtles are being used which have the same back story as the show but are not owned by fred wolf
Viacom buying the turtles but not the 80's cartoon had to be a case like Todd McFarlane buying Eclipse thinking he'd own Miracleman but not actually getting him. I just imagine a Viacom executive giving Peter Laird a check for a few million and giving him a hearty handshake and a "cowabunga", only for Laird to clarify he didn't own the 80's cartoon so they don't have it.
The first NES game was so weird because it used Mirage-based sprites and was released after the cartoon, but you also fought Rocksteady, Bebop and the Technodrome.
Yeah, that was strange. Fun game though even though it feels a bit janky sometimes. Not as good as the TMNT beat em ups, but still good. Getsu Fūma Den is an older game by Konami using a similar engine, seems they built off of it for TMNT.
It was one of the major children's show of the late '80s/early '90s, all of the people in their 40s watched or knew them, basically all modern dads and even many moms; they know it's a silly show, but its memory is tied to many other of their childhood, so it's a pleasant memory.
TMNT wasn't a show, it was a marketing enterprise. The show itself existed because kids watched TV and if they were exposed to any one part of the media clusterfrick they'd buy into all the other parts.
TMNT products encompassed everything under the sun.
>Why is the 1987 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles still held in such high regard when it's so painfully low effort since it came from a bygone era of extended toy commercials like filmation's He-Man? The best thing I can say about this show is that the surrounding media (Konami games and 1990 movie) were all much better than the actual cartoon they were spawned from.
Yes, and if He-Man had excellent video games and the '87 movie didn't flop, maybe people give the cartoon less shit. The Fred Wolf/Playmates/Konami multimedia machine was a total package that could stand up to cartoon episodes being lame.
People talk shit about the 80s one all the time. The frick you on about?
That being said cartoons are definitely more popular than comics and debatably more popular than videogame still.
So it sets the bar because it what most people are gonna think of first when you say "TMNT".
You had to have been there and know how successful and influential 1987 TMNT was. Turtle mania was everywhere and this was before the Internet
>Turtles
>successful and influential
What a fricking moron
Why? Here are the probable reasons:
>It's the first mass market version
>Not many versions for normies to compare it to at the time
>Syndicated
>It was on the air for 9 years
>It was a massive commercial hit
>Relatively few cartoons afterwards (though to be fair, the second and third having 156 and 124 episodes respectively isn't something to scoff at)
If we want to compound that into an argument, a lot of kids saw it, it was a big fad, it's in a situation where a lot of people mistake it for being the original incarnation (some are even in straight up denial of the truth after learning it) and there wasn't quite as many opportunities for it to be drowned out by other iterations as in so many other franchises.
Give it a bit of time though, eventually the people who grew up on it be too old and few to give a shit anymore, at which point they will be outnumbered by people who grew up with subsequent iterations. It's just going to take a dace or two two longer than it does with most other franchises.
What does this mean? We’ll get black april in 20 years instead of this gorgeous version?
The only TMNT media from my childhood that I'll go to bat for is the first two movies. While acknowledging how badly the censors or whoever interfered with the second one.
t. 31 year old.
Nostalgia. Most folks who have a fondness for it also clearly never watched much animation beyond it. Not suprising, as TMNT is one of those things that managed to break out into the wider demographic outside its usual niche.
87 is still pretty funny.
Yep