Thanks to the anon recommending this the other night.
It's pretty fricking great.
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Thanks to the anon recommending this the other night. It's pretty fricking great.
Thanks to the anon recommending this the other night.
It's pretty fricking great.
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It's consistently great
Try also The Admiral: Roaring Currents and it's sequels for watery tactics and bad guys with heavy eyeliner.
That's not based on a literary classic epic though, is it?
Dunno. Don't care. It's a badass war movie of a crusty old admiral commanding a bunch of wooden war tubs against overwhelming odds.
It's mostly based on Korean history.
Basado.
What a horrible recommendation, like jfc it has ninja samurai sniper pirates. Tone is completely too and not at all epic like Three Kingdoms which will remain a classic despite the bendy rubber spears and all its other flaws
>hating on ninja samurai sniper pirates.
>despite the bendy rubber spears
That's the best part of any spear scene in any chinese movie, though.
I just hate that this guy can't act
I think it works for Liu Bei, he is meant to be naive but pure hearted after all.
I think the 2010 show is very good at showing Liu Bei as the duplicitous c**t that he was, although that might have been accidental
filtered.
Asians think peak masculinity is being stoic.
i hate him as a character.
Honestly, how can you not like him after this? Easily the best moment in the series.
Here's another good baby throwing gif.
Liu Bei is the good boy who everyone must like due to glory to the Han.
But everyone secretly likes Cao Cao.
I was always wondering if this is the case about the book as well... or if they just made him so stand out in this adaptation.
I mean I'm aware that Guan Yu is hot shit and practically revered as/equated with the literal god of war in China, but beyond that who is more beloved by the people over there
If you are familiar with the Ring of the Nibelungs, I think Cao Cao would be comparable to Hagen von Tronje
The book was an attempt to revive Han nationalism when China was nearly being conquered by the mongols.
Liu Bei is meant to be protagonist and embodies all goodness of the Han people.
They are all heroes on different sides. That's where the tragedy stems from.
George-sama…I kneel
When i first watched the series i took him at face value. After watching it again i find him very clever. He really knows when and how to lay his act on thick to survive and get what he wants.
>Liu Bei is a chive-planting, sandal-making, baby-throwing pretender!
Its based on real events.
Yeah, about as much as the Iliad is, you complete child
It's good in so far as you are interested in the historical period to begin with. I wouldn't call it great, but it's good enough as a visual evokation of the events. It sirt of feels like a saturday morning cartoon adaptation of a real historical event. It has that campy/hammy feel to it, and it's somewhat toothless and sterile, but it's pretty fun to follow in the way simple saturday morning cartoons are fun to follow ( what will that wily Cao Cao do next episode, find out next week!)
stfu it's great.
>feels like a saturday morning cartoon adaptation of a real historical event
What the frick are you even on about? Do you even know The Romance of The Three Kingdoms?
>a real historical event
Would you say the same thing about the Greek epic of the war on Troy? Because that's what this is for China, you moron
It is based on real history. Almost all the characters actually existed and the battles actually happened. The broad political manoeverings also were historical. What is not historical are the melodramatic personal interactions/grudges/feuds/romance. Those were added by later authors, hundreds of years later.
Again, so is The Iliad and so are many of the works of Shakespeare. So I ask again: Are you dense and have you even heard of the classical Chinese historical NOVEL this is based on?
Why do you weird zoomers keep saying Iliad? Nobody has ever gone to an island and killed a cyclops.
neither have any of the events in Shakespeare's most acclaimed stories ever happened. I really don't know what's wrong with that anon or what his point even is, or what he is even arguing against.
The war happened. And the cyclops was the Odyssey, you pleb
>neither have any of the events in Shakespeare's most acclaimed stories ever happened
A lot of his works are rooted in real life events and historical figures.
basing your fiction off real world events is not the same as a retelling of a real world event. LotR is based on Tolkien's experience during WWI, that doesn't make LotR non-fiction. In fact, every character and event depicted in that story are completely fictional.
Point taken
I don't know what it was but I'm glad you sorted it out in your head.
Don't you have to study for an exam or something?
ROTK is complete fiction based on a group authors making things up that didnt happen 400 years ago.
jk
historical Zhang Fei is described as a pretty boi thats really good at caligraphy
Classic Chinese literature, especially ROTTK, The Dream of the Red Chamber may well be the last unearthed treasures of world literature because they will forever be sealed for non-native speakers. Attempting to translate these is attempting to make something three dimensional one dimensional. Three Kingdoms less so, but still.
Then again, I've never read the Gita in Sanscrit and the Iliad in Greek
I'm Vietnamese and know it all.
Dream of Red Chamber is SHIT though, honestly, Feng Shen Ji and Golden Lotus are better books, Golden Lotus is literally more realistic than Red Chambers.
It's mostly pop culture, but the event is based on the book.
Even has stuff like Zhuge Liang tricking Cao Cao to kill 2 defected admirals and then says holy shit I got tricked.
That's Zhou Yu though.
I remember it was Zhuge Liang, but anyway, you get the point.
I love ROTK tho, no lie.
>Dream of Red Chamber is SHIT though, honestly
Well I've heard it being compared to Proust... Did you read it in the original then?
Nope, I can't read Mandarin, but I watch the TV shows and it's shit.
People say it's a realistic portrayal of the Ming dynasty daily life but it's not.
If you want a realistic portrayal, read Jin Ping Mei/Golden Lotus.
>Nope, I can't read Mandarin, but I watch the TV shows
OK thanks for your literal non-reply to the matter then, homosexual. Don't reply to me again.
OK, homosexual.
Since you seem to know the book: Is she portrayed as ACTUALLY in love with Lu Bu or did they add that to the show for drama?
Also bump
Diao Chan is in love with Lu Bu in the book, yes.
But Diao Chan is also entirely fictional, not real.
Just like my girlfriend
Diao Chan is fictional but Lu Bu falling for one of Dong Zhous woman and it being one of his motivators is historical.
Yes, Diao Chan is likely based on that woman, or some eunuch.
you saying the real Lu Bu betrayed Dong Zhuo for some eunuch bussy?
What about journey to the west?
It's the first shonen story.
Even has the power level thing.
It's great and, yes one of the big works in the Chinese literary canon. But probably not es intricate and complex in symbolism and writing as Dream of the Red Chamber
What's even the symbolism of the Red Chamber?
Fall of the Ming dynasty?
The novel was released unfinished and some other dudes finish it, and the other half didn't match.
>What's even the symbolism of the Red Chamber
Colors, animals, actions; heck even the way the words are composed of the chinese characters... There's different ways to spell the same names and words and each character has a second (or third or fourth) meaning. That additional meaning then corresponds with the additional meaning in the words next to it. Literally impossible to translate.
Source: Had a gf from Taiwan for 6 years who was actually Cinemaphile
But it doesn't mean anything, I think.
The naming is just to sound deep and connects with mythology.
Red Chambers is like those 2deep4u anime show.
Please stop replying to me, gay
The monk going to india to translate and bring buddhist scriptures back to china is history
the magical characters are fictional. it features alot of the chinese pantheon of gods and beliefs
>the magical characters are fictional
No shit, Sherlock
You never know though
why are you upset? I actually like the show. I never said what I said as a oure negative. I like that the show feels like an inocent cartoon show. You people need to fricking relax, you sound incredibly insecure.
>has his ignorance pointed out
>Gee you guys need to relax, why are you upset
Maybe you should stop projecting your insecurities
Not those anons, I get where you are coming from. A lot of the content is pretty basic stratagem of the week stuff. There are certain arcs/episodes where it rises to something greater though, and really explores the themes of Confucianism, or takes nuanced views on figures like Liu Bei and Cao Cao.
I find it very relaxing to have on because, other than remembering the names, it doesn't require any brain power, its simple stories that unfold in a predictable way. Its comfort watching.
exactly. I was by no means shitting on the show (unless you think someone saying a show is merely good instead of great is shitting on it), I like the show just fine for what it is and as a comolete outsider ti the culture I like that it feels super campy and dated. I guess traditional? There's no suoer grim dark gratuitous real shit. I think it works quite well for a show that's based on a real story that is nowadays as much legend as it is history. mfers throw a hissifit over anything that isn't uncompromising gargling of their glorious leader's masterpiece
>There's no suoer grim dark gratuitous real shit.
you absolute moron.
in the first couple of episodes, they murder a whole village.
how is that not fricking super grim dark gratuitous real shit?
do you just spout buzzwords instead of criticizing specific things?
they also shiw tons of death in the many many battles depicted. The point is that everything is played camp. The violence, the drama, the emotional conflict, tgey are all played kinda campy. none of the violence is graphic or realistic or does it feel like it has any weight to it.
Let me restate that this is a GOOD thing. I do not know why you are trying to argue the show is worse than it is, because grimdark edgeporn would make the show a giant pile of shit.
bro, shit cannot describe your saturday morning cartoon analogy.
grimdark=gore?
hey if you don't get you don't get it. I really don't feel like having thus pointless argument. If you take the show super seriously and you like it that way, good for you, anon.
>Saturday morning cartoon version of the historical event
Most, if not all historical fiction is this, though. Certainly ROT3K is no exception. It’s even in the name. Did you think the ‘Romance’ part of the name means it’s a love story, anon?
kek, you burned some asses with that saturday morning cartoon crack, but that actually sounds pretty interesting.
chinks (and their weeboos) are too obsessed with "face" and think everything is an insult unless it's presented as animal like fawning. what a foolish species.
2cow steals the show.
Dadudu
If you're looking for more Three Kingdoms stuff, watch the Red Cliff 1 and 2. Absolutely excellent, totally underrated John Woo movies.
just from the trailers, it looks like utter fricking kino tbqh
It is. Also it's just nice to have a more realistic i.e. pro-Wu version of Chi Bi.
The fact it's split between 2 movies makes it even better, you'll love it.
Red Cliff is kinda trash due to how it ruins the ending, ironically too Hollywood.
But still better than most Hollywood trash.
>ruins the ending
How?
There's a big screen where all the good guys defeat Cao Cao, makes a big speech and just let him go.
It makes no sense.
In the book, Cao Cao escaped at the last minute, and during him leaving, he encountered Guan whom he saved years ago, and Guan Yu let him go.
Red Cliff isn't completely based on the book though, it's a mix of book, original and actual history. The Cao Cao Guan Yu thing is pure fiction much like the book pretending Zhuge Liang did anything to win that battle so it's fine if they change that.
The portrayal of the characters suck. Cao Cao is a generic dumb moustache twirling villain, for example.
I used to love this but the more I learned about the history the less seriously I can take this, especially stuff like Pit and Piggy. The soundtrack is killer though and the movie looks great.
>Japanese actor
But Cinemaphile always told me chinks and japs can be told apart if I'm racist enough.
Are you OK?
I'm posting Cao Cao in honour of the poster who was posting in honour of the original Cao Cao poster until we get a good Romance of the three kingdoms mod.
Speak of Cao Cao and Cao Cao appears.
checked
>tfw YEARS of nothing didn't kill us
>tfw bannerlord killed us
i'm huffing what copium i have left that they will fix it or modders will.
I can't believe the general is dead :^(
we're in /vst/ now.
I hate bannerlord so fricking much. I put thousands of hours in warband, but bannerlord is zero fun to me.
The worst thing is I can't even clearly explain why
it just feels wrong. It may sound weird but for me it's almost that it's too polished and gameified. What made the original great is that it started as an rpg and then morphed into this weird strategy game so you get a lot of legacy elements that gave it its charm. Bannerlord is just so streamlined it removes a lot of those quirks which defined the game. In short, soul vs soulless
>fun
Anon, where do you think you are?
Reading your posts is like drinking a fine wine, one cannot help but be intoxicated
>decided to watch this after playing Dynasty Warriors 8
>decided to play Dynasty Warriors 8 after playing Koihime Musou
Three Kingdoms history is nuts though, I love it.
Don't forget Ikkitousen
I know that feel.
Play Dynasty Warriors 3. It's the best one IMO.
I want a colorful wuxia Three Kingdoms in the style of Hero(2002). It's never going to happen, is it?
TATUDOOOOO
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWW
Curse of the Golden Flower - not 3 Kingdoms era but has Chose Yun Fat and Gong Li, directed by Zhang Yimou
The K-Drama "Kingdom" is also pretty good.
For me, its the three brothers who swore something in the selfsame day or whatever.
Goon you, the fat guy, and third guy.
for me it's the 1994 version. God tier casting and soundtrack
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Liu Bei survives and wakes up in the modern era to become detective Shi in the 3 body adaptation
>in the 3 body adaptation
I hope you're referring to the Chinese one and not that abhorrent netflix drivel
You need to get fully immersed though, otherwise some episodes might bore you the frick out like the Diaochan one
>95 45min episodes released over less than 2 months
what the frick
i watched the first episode expecting it to be like HBO's Rome but in China but then the scene with the magical dagger that can cut stones in half came.
It's Chinese game of thrones minus magic (if you don't count the flying on the battlefield) but if actual strategy was involved and capable people wrote it
Wait, do people actually fly on the battlefield or are you just implying that the characters travel impossible distances?
It's a romanticization(?) of a real historical period. And it's Chinese. So they sort of take some liberties with the "historical" and "real" bits. The general outline and big narrative points are mostly historically accurate, to the degree that we know what actually happened, but the moment to moment action is...... exaggerated. It's not quite crouching tiger tier but it's in that direction except larger scale, if any of that makes sense.
It's neither really, he was exaggerating. The legendary heroes do these Kung Fu movie jumps in battles and are superhumanly skilled, but it's toned down
Also this show is really not about the legendary weapons or the battle action. It's about hard-core political scheming on all levels possible and I do mean hard-core
I see where you're coming from but that may be a bit misleading to someone who has no idea what they're getting themselves into. What the show is at its' heart is a story about big characters with clashing personalities and ambitions. They do scheme a lot against each other, but the plotting is not actually that complex or particularly smart or whatever. The engagement is mainly derived by how these personalities react to the actions of their counterparts. It's a story about personalities, not political intrigue, although the political intrigue is used as an instrument to move the personalities.
Just play Dynasty Warriors you doodlebingus
BAO!
I also enjoy Chinese wuxia dramas from that era, particularly Laughing in the Wind and Heaven Sword and Dragon Sabre (2009).
GODS I WAS STRONG THEN!
CAO MENGDE? ANCESTORS WHAT A STUPID NAME!
GO AND GET THE EUNUCH STRETCHER, NOW!