>That’s very interesting detective, however you’re going to find it exceedingly difficult to make those charges stick.
>Thats very interesting detective, however youre going to find it exceedingly difficult to make those charges stick.
>That’s very interesting detective, however you’re going to find it exceedingly difficult to make those charges stick.
>no, I won't.
I don't know why but this post made me laugh really hard
>lawyers HATE him
Guys did you know that he is bi?
Why wouldn't he be? It' was oblivious he sexed in his apprentices.
Kidnapping, torture, reckless endangerment, and premeditated attempted murder for all the victims that survived.
All those plus 1st degree murder for all those that died from his traps.
The proof is his literally voice recording detailing the traps and his motives that were found at every crime scene.
Stop posting this dumb shit
>All I did was give people a choice. Good luck proving the voice is mine. Now, if there are no further questions I must be going.
>I'm dropping a nuclear bomb on Hiroshima
>Live or die, it's their choice.
That's how you sound right now.
warning people that a nuclear bomb is coming is a good thing to do. They can escape and save their lives.
>warning people that a nuclear bomb is coming is a good thing to do. They can escape and save their lives.
The victims of the nuclear bomb were warned, remember?
That's why it wasn't a crime
>That's why it wasn't a crime
I thought that was because history books say the good guys won every single war in human history.
>I thought that was because history books say the good guys won every single war in human history.
They did you fricking idiot, which is why jigsaw always wins in the end
>They did you fricking idiot, which is why jigsaw always wins in the end
he didn't win though. he died and is burning in hell for all eternity for his sins. in fact, I'd wager the devil is putting him through eternal Saw traps where he always fails.
>he didn't win though. he died and is burning in hell for all eternity for his sins. in fact, I'd wager the devil is putting him through eternal Saw traps where he always fails.
Heroes don't go to hell kid, in fact I reckon he's in heaven with other great American heroes like William Tecumseh Sherman, Omar Bradley, and Paul W. Tibbets, Jr.
>Heroes don't go to hell kid,
he's not a hero. he's a sinner. he died apart from Christ.
>he's not a hero. he's a sinner. he died apart from Christ.
He's sill alive which means he can still accept Jesus into his heart, don't you remember Matthew 18: 10–14?
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I thought that was because history books say the good guys won every single war in human history. #
>>I thought that was because history books say the good guys won every single war in human history.
>They did you fricking idiot, which is why jigsaw always wins in the end
Bullshit. Jiggy ain't never getting his kid back. All of his bullshit is just acting out, the same way the rape victim Gacy become a pedophile himself.
Dexter owns Kramer. Kramer would give up his fake crusade in a heartbeat if he was confronted by Dexter and forced to really examine his life choices in the kill room.
That’s a false equivalence and you know it. If you drop a bomb on someone and they die it’s your fault if you warned them it was coming, you illegally dropped a bomb on them.
But that’s not what jigsaw died. All of these people who died, died as a result of their own actions, not jigsaws. All they had to do was simply leave, but they chose to stay and die. Trying to blame jigsaw for their deaths is like trying to blame a driver for the death of his passenger, when the passenger refused to leave the car after it broke down on the train tracks and a train came by and hit it. The charges would never stick.
>That’s a false equivalence and you know it.
You are literally claiming that Mr Saw isn't really murdering people because they have a chance to save themselves via maiming themselves.
> If you drop a bomb on someone and they die it’s your fault if you warned them it was coming, you illegally dropped a bomb on them.
The victims of the nuclear bombs were warned by leaflets.
If someone left a leaflet on your doorstep, saying that they'd murder you next sunday and you didn't leave on sunday. when they murdered you it would you be your fault and they'd be completely innocent. right?
>not jigsaws
You're an idiot, you know this right?
>>If someone left a leaflet on your doorstep, saying that they'd murder you next sunday and you didn't leave on sunday. when they murdered you it would you be your fault and they'd be completely innocent. right?
This example doesn't hold up. Jigsaw isn't doing the murdering. The people murder themselves using the traps. The choice was always theirs. Jigsaw doesn't have a hand in it at all. He's akin to a watchful guardian, a balancing force of Nature, a Dark Knight.
>Jigsaw isn't doing the murdering.
Yes he is.
>The people murder themselves using the traps.
That he created. That he put them in. That he kidnapped them for. That's murder you moron.
So if I let someone borrow my knife for chopping vegetables and they kill themselves with it instead it's suddenly my fault? I'd be charged with murder?
People using Jigsaw's traps to commit suicide doesn't make him liable. The choice was theirs.
>So if I let someone borrow my knife for chopping vegetables and they kill themselves with it instead it's suddenly my fault? I'd be charged with murder?
>People using Jigsaw's traps to commit suicide doesn't make him liable. The choice was theirs.
Jiggy's wife performed a self-abortion the night their baby died, which started all of this shit. Jiggy is making excuses for why he's dealing with trauma by becoming the traumatizer, nothing more, nothing less. Jiggy is still in the wrong.
Do we even have any proof that jigsaw kidnapped these people? They all just wake up in his trap rooms and he gives them the best possible solution to escape. Jigsaw could easily just let them die but he chooses to help the kidnapped people to the best of his abilities through the use of advice on how to escape. Doing this means he is protected by good Samaritan Laws (He shall not be liable for any civil or criminal liability).
This, if I go o to your property, climb on top of your roof, and jump off it and break my neck, is it your fault I’m dead and should you be charged with murder? No that’s ridiculous and that’s why jigsaw can’t be charged.
>If you drop a bomb on someone and they die it’s your fault if you warned them it was coming, you illegally dropped a bomb on them.
No, you literally warned them that something bad is going to happen, if I wander onto the freeway it isn't the car going 60's fault I turned into street pizza.
The US dropped millions of fliers over Hiroshima and Nagasaki warning civilians they were about to get nuked. So yes, those civilians did choose to die
>The US dropped millions of fliers over Hiroshima and Nagasaki warning civilians they were about to get nuked. So yes, those civilians did choose to die
Damn, too bad the germans didn't do that with israelites in Europe. That way, the holocaust wouldn't have been a crime.
>THE NAZIS KILLED ANN FRANKE!
>ah ah ah! technically, the nazis showed her a leaflet and she didn't leave, therefore she agreed to the holocaust with her inaction.
>>THE NAZIS KILLED ANN FRANKE!
>>ah ah ah! technically, the nazis showed her a leaflet and she didn't leave, therefore she agreed to the holocaust with her inaction.
Poison pill example, Anne Frank died of typhus, not rollercoasters looping through cages filled with bears and eagles shooting baby targets with bullets made of human soap.
No they didn't. They never dropped fliers on Hiroshima and they dropped fliers on Nagasaki the day after it was nuked. You are repeating false history made up by the government.
>STOP RUINING MY SHITPOST THREAD WITH COMMON SENSE REEEEEEE!!!!
no, frick off back to /b/ with this cringe cancer
>K-on moron thinks he's a lawyer
>dumb tranime fan can't into the complexities of jigsaw
KWAB
Bro. Literally fricking supreme court justice Samuel Alito said you really couldn't charge jiggy with anything. Are seriously gonna tell me that you know more about the law than fricking Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito?
He must've not read the Illinois compiled statutes.
> First Degree Murder, 625 ILCS 5/9-1(a)(2):
>(a) A person who kills an individual without lawful justification commits first degree murder if, in performing the acts which cause the death:
>(2) he or she knows that such acts create a strong probability of death or great bodily harm to that individual or another
And that is just the murder charge. It leaves out the slew of other felonies and aggravating factors. Jigsaw would be hyper-fricked.
Alito contends that, legally speaking, Jigsaw isn't aware that such acts create a "strong probability of death or great bodily harm," as Jigsaw believes people will choose life over death, not to mention that Jigsaw isn't technically the one "acting" in these scenarios. It's the so-called victims who "act" in a way that results in their own deaths. The choice is theirs.
>Alito contends that, legally speaking, Jigsaw isn't aware that such acts create a "strong probability of death or great bodily harm," as Jigsaw believes people will choose life over death, not to mention that Jigsaw isn't technically the one "acting" in these scenarios. It's the so-called victims who "act" in a way that results in their own deaths. The choice is theirs.
Citation needed. Jiggy's victims never consented to being placed in those traps in the first place. I want proof Alito is this stupid, because this line of reasoning upends a shitload of case law.
>Jiggy's victims never consented to being placed in those traps in the first place.
How do you even know that Jigsaw put them there? The victims don't remember who put them in the traps so it could've been anyone who shoved them into these traps. Jigsaw saw that the victims were going to die and gave them the best possible solution to escape which means he is protected by Good Samaritan Laws.
I’m going to have to stop you here. You are falling into this fools game when you refer to the contraptions, machines, rooms, etc., that are found at the scene where these people died as traps. They are not traps. A trap is defined as a device or enclosure designed to catch and retain animals, typically by allowing entry but not exit or by catching hold of a part of the body. In none of these so called “traps” was exit not allowed. These people could have simply left all these “traps” and that very fact proves that none of these were traps in the first place. Trap insinuates a malicious intent from the trapper and an unwillingness to be there from the trapee, which is why these haters keen using it. Stop playing their games, they were not traps, no court of law would see these as traps.
>Jigsaw isn't aware that such acts create a "strong probability of death or great bodily harm,"
>cut off your arm or my trap will kill you
>Jigsaw isn't aware that such acts create a "strong probability of death or great bodily harm,"
>cut off your arm or my trap will kill you
Again, Jigsaw saw people get stuck in his traps and tried to give them a solution so that they could escape. It sucks that these solutions cause bodily harm but it's not his fault the victims were stuck in his traps. What would you have had him do? should he have just let them die? Maybe the sick frick on trial should be you
>Samuel Alito said you really couldn't charge jiggy with anything
When? Google gave me bupkis.
>k-on king BTFOs chopslop watchers
BABABABABASED
>Kidnapping
None of his so called """victims""" were kids
>kidnapping is only for kids
Hello ESL
you literally have autism
>literally KIDnapping
>not about kids
It's called that because no adult can get kidnapped. If you are kidnapped then you are a failure of a man. We call stealing an adult away abduction.
Anon…. Watch the new movie
https://youtube.com/shorts/8Af6tDnyswk?si=LdPR5zxTLNj22CjL
>you stole the answers to a test, A.J.
>in sixty seconds a polar bear will tear off your penis
>But…what’s a polar bear doing in Jersey?
Mr. Saw sounds like a sovereign citizen.
Did he scream 'I DO NOT CONSENT! I WAS TRAVELING" when he was arrested as well?
>how to fix society with one easy trick
Even if his legal defense is flawless (it is) they can get him for not paying taxes
>I guess you haven't met my accountant, Mr. Shecklestein.
>Mr Shecklestein...I would like to make a claim
>Jigsaw and his lawyer sue the court
Teflon Don is calling
Saw takes place in Toronto. The taxes are taken out of his checks in advance.
Game over
Dun dun dun
Dun dun da
Da da da
I watched this movie with my uncle whose a local criminal trial judge and he told me the most terrifying thing about them is that he can't for the life of him think what jigsaw could be feasibly charged with
>I watched this movie with my uncle whose a local criminal trial judge and he told me the most terrifying thing about them is that he can't for the life of him think what jigsaw could be feasibly charged with
Where are you people getting this shit from? None of these people consented to being kidnapped.
>Bro. Literally fricking supreme court justice Samuel Alito said you really couldn't charge jiggy with anything.
Thurgood Marshall shits on Alito if this is true. This is the equivalent of stating 12 Years A Slave has no case against his abductors or the people who bought him. Alito's argument is also stating human trafficking isn't criminal.
Jigsaw groupies defy reason and have no concept of ethics.
You can be held liable if a random neighborhood kid wanders into your yard, jumps in your pool, and drowns.
This meme is both stupid and unfunny.
that's different.
Jigsaw would never leave his traps around children unattended
Look buddy, I don’t care how slick you think you are but you’re not getting out of this speeding ticket
*turns off camera*
*shoots you in the head*
another tragic suicide
even if a judge tried to convict Jigsaw, when he bangs his gavel it will activate some kind of trap built into the courtroom, proving his innocence and causing a retrial
Sir your trap house isn’t up to code and has been condemned, you must vacate the premises
>Sir your trap house isn’t up to code and has been condemned, you must vacate the premises
The tax man and the health department, the deadliest one-two combination.
>The proof is his literally voice recording detailing the traps and his motives that were found at every crime scene.
Ironically the only person who’d be found guilty in a court of law here is you, after jigsaw sues you for libel and defamation for calling him a murderer that is. Do you have any proof that is his voice on the recording?
mandatory
Yes but he is misusing government property. Jigsaws contraptions are all owned by him, the handcuffs are property of the government and are being misused by the officer in question. So therefore the cop should be dsibarred and put on trial for abuse of power.
Yes, they’re not charging him at all. Hence they’re guilty of kidnapping and false imprisonment. Any harm that comes to jigsaw in their unlawful custody is now their responsibility. They cannot execute him, because he has not been charged and found guilty of anything, there it would be murder and not a lawful execution. This is not the gotcha you think it is and shows the stupid of jighaters.
>Yes, Jigsaw's not charging his victims at all. Hence he's guilty of kidnapping and false imprisonment. Any harm that comes to them in his unlawful custody is now his responsibility. He cannot execute them, because they have not been charged and found guilty of anything, there it would be murder and not a lawful execution. This is not the gotcha you think it is and shows the stupid of jiggays.
How is jigsaw guilty of false imprisonment and kidnapping? Proof? In the screen cap you posted the criminals blatantly admitted to kidnapping and false imprisonment. Who did jigsaw kill? Proof? In the screen cap they literally admit to killing him. You’re being ridiculous. Another false equivalency from jighaters, sad!
Obstruction of justice. Book em.
Proof?
The entire second movie. BOOK EM
not an argument
all of jiggys traps were reasonable. He even scolded that woman that took over from him for being too harsh. This trap is not reasonable.
Mr. Saw...you're free to go
Obstruction of justice. Book em boys.
He committed crimes in Mexico so that's a different jurisdiction altogether
How is he not in jail
In today's day and age I've seen ppl go to jail over words
Like just say the n word you can go to jail and charged for disputing the peace
How is what he's doing not as bad as saying the N word ?
You can say Black person, homosexual. Go back to readdit
I love how these threads are always a magnet for redditors.
I don't swear because I find it uneducated and uncultured
Hi Readdit!
I also browse Lemmy !!
And the fediverse
But yes I prefer reddit
You were anonymously accused of rape, hands where I can see em scumbag!
WE FINALLY GOT HIM BROS
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HE KILLED HIM
NO INSTRUCTIONS
NO WAY TO SURVIVE
No prior convictions, put on house arrest, trail runs for a few years then eventually sentenced and let out with time served
Proof jigsaw put that contraption on him and turned it on? Just because jigsaw did not rescue him does not mean he is guilty of his murder, he has no duty to save as a civilian. This is the best jighaters have? Lol
I was gonna say that you are legally bound to help someone in danger but I realized that in shitholes like murica that doesn't exists and you can watch some crackhead that you could send to the hospital with a single punch rape a child only to later kill her in the most inhumane way possible and you won't be accused of shit...
Worse some guy sees him stabbing the girl and knocks the guy out and tries to save the girl but she ends up dying he might be accused if they though he didn't took the right course of action but you that stood there with a smirk in your face since the start and didn't do shit are considered innocent and can't be accused of anything.
The law doesn't exist to enact revenge on people you disagree with.
That's just because you're poor. With enough money and connections, the law can be whatever you want.
>The law doesn't exist to enact revenge on people you disagree with.
>you are legally bound to help someone in danger
there is no way this law exists anywhere if it does then those places are the shithole
why should i have to risk my neck for some homosexual?
It's called duty to rescue and it exists on most Europe even fricking Russia and Serbia have that shit and you are not forced to do it if it endangers you, but are forced at the very least to contact authorities as long as that is within your reach and without prejudice to you.
Not being forced to take any action while some weird shit is taking place is some 3rd world shit.
Dude, those guys are all literally speaking spanish, ergo ipso factum that lookalike can't be the real mr Kramer. Such fake footage would be dismissed straight away in court.
*shoots him in the head*
>Nothing personal, Mr. Saw.
The problem is this time it's going to be Mexican cops, they don't really care about that shit
There arent cops in the movie
>I give everyone a choice
>uh except this guy whos crimes was uhhh....skipping work a few days so i condemned him to be burnt alive
>blow out the candle and you can't get set on fire
>can see all the numbers on the wall anyways
Killed by his own incompetence, no fault of jigsaw
literally me
to be fair though the combination is written right on the wall, and he was told to be careful
What kind of safe has a code that is hundreds of numbers long?
>Actually, it's gonna be super easy. Barely an inconvenience.
Why doesnt this old boomer just kill himself instead of killing other people?
Does this boomer not realise how cringe he is with the clown on the bike thing and his edgy voice and being all self righteous? Just shoot the people and stop being such an edgelord. Its embarrassing at that age.
I only saw the first SAW movie back when it was new and was disgusted with it. Am I missing something or is it still just meaningless pigslop gore-porn?
Worst horror franchise still running and that's saying something
Feels like a franchise for people who eat a lot of frozen TV dinners and fast food
Someone should capture him in one of these movies and make him do these stupid trials