He’s right though. If millennials experienced that stuff they were more like the 1994 millennials because I’m a zoomer and I remember almost everything from that picture
All of that stuff came out when I was 10+. Someone born in 98 would barely have memories of it. The ps2 released in 2000, they would've been 2 years old.
>Someone born in 98 would barely have memories of it. The ps2 released in 2000, they would've been 2 years old.
That's what gets me about zoomshits. They will claim they totally remember shit form when they were in diapers, but apparently have no recollection of things they were actually old enough to experience. >no bro trust meee I was totally playing gamecube from my crib you don't get it!!!!
At least own your zoomness you pathetic gays
Don’t post the one with Smosh on it. The last thing I need is to sperg out and explain to Cinemaphile, once again, why its peak was undeniably in the 2000s and why its large audience of scene/emo girls in high school and college makes it a quintessentially millennial thing.
You were still in diapers when Hybrid Theory, Sonic Adventure 2, The GameCube, Shrek, and a lot of these other things were released. Stop attributing yourself to things that you didn't fully experience or were even aware of. If you can't remember 9/11, you're a zoomer. Simple as.
>implying things stop existing the year after they came out
The only thing I'll grant you is not our generation is Hybrid Theory, but Gamecube is ours. Everyone born in the mid-late 90s played it as a kid.
Just because you were 3 years old when those things came out doesn't mean that you actually experienced those things and the culture surrounding them. Compare that to millennials who were at the prime age during the heyday of those consoles. Same with the movies and TV shows listed that zoomers only probably experienced through re-runs.
Zoomers have more of a connection with the 360 and PlayStation 3, along with TV shows like Adventure Time and Steven Universe.
Anon, that's moronic. Imagine saying people born in 1981-1984 didn't experience the NES because they were babies when it came out.
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Ok sure, hold on: I'll make a graphic for Gen X-ers and load it up with silent films from the 1920s because, after all, just because Gen X wasn't born yet doesn't mean they couldn't have grown up with them!
7 months ago
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>comparing movies that came out decades before people were born with games that came out when someone was already alive and slightly too young to play them on release but were still relevant a few years later when they became old enough for them
Kek
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It's an apt comparison. Plenty of very old films are still "relevant" today. If anything, video games become much less relevant much more quickly due to the nature of the medium. Speaking with a zoomer about video games is like talking to a capeshit moron about film. In the zoomers' case though, they simply do not have enough contextual knowledge to understand the medium to any meaningful degree. They were born too late, and they cope by pretending they were there to play these games when they were huge cultural phenomena. It's hilarious that zoomers trip over themselves to pretend to have really been there for the GameCube of all things; that's already SIX generations into home console tech.
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People born 81-84 wouldn't have the same connection to NES because it wasn't marketed to them, SNES and PS1 was. You could have grown up reading Davey Crockett but it's not part of your generation
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Holy shit, what a moronic thing to say. Super Mario Bros. 3 came out in 1990 and was a GIGANTIC hit. Are you telling me 6-9 year olds didn't experience that?
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>People born 81-84 wouldn't have the same connection to NES because it wasn't marketed to them
my zoomer brother in christ and allah, the NES was sold up until 1995
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Just because you were 3 years old when those things came out doesn't mean that you actually experienced those things and the culture surrounding them. Compare that to millennials who were at the prime age during the heyday of those consoles. Same with the movies and TV shows listed that zoomers only probably experienced through re-runs.
Zoomers have more of a connection with the 360 and PlayStation 3, along with TV shows like Adventure Time and Steven Universe.
I'm not part of this argument, but video games (certainly in the 90s and early 00s) were overwhelmingly marketed towards children.
For me when it's when someone talks about experience the 00s, but their entire experience of that decade was shitting in diapers and learning their abcs and then just kids cartoons and baby movies.
It's like when 98zoomers call themselves 90s kids.
That's like saying people born in 1988 didn't grow up on A Link to the Past. You are aware there is often a delay between the year something comes out and the year a lot of people get into it right?
https://i.imgur.com/I63JGsJ.png
The 2000s was the last great decade for Cinemaphile.
Cope gramps. The 2000s was kino.
Millennials didn't experience any of the stuff in that pic.
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>If you can't remember 9/11, you're a zoomer
This is the dumbest way to determine if you're a zoomer. There are people younger than me who can remember 9/11. I can't. I'm pretty sure my family didn't really give enough of a shit to even turn the TV on considering we are not American.
I've seen people on this site born as early as 92 who say they can't remember 9/11. Some people just have bad memories. A lot of people don't remember much of their childhoods anyway. I have a pretty good memory and even I don't remember as much of my childhood as I'd like to.
I remember 9/11. Was actually one of my first core memories. I was in a booster seat with the burning towers on tv & I was just eating my breakfest oblivious
>look up Everlong - Foo Fighters on youtube >see comment talking about how zoomer and his friend bonded over Foo Fighters >they both got into Foo Fighters through their Grandfathers
This has to be a psyop or something... right?
maybe if he comes from a cool family where most people get pregnant at 16 and his grandpa is like 45 50 years old.
or I guess if grandpa was already 45 50 years old in 1994 but he's always been a young soul and was a huge fan of Nirvana or something
at least it's not the usual nonsense of "My dad died from cancer after my best friend killed himself and grandma ran over the family dog, this song always reminds me of them" that floats to the top of you tube comments
I cannot imagine a child born in 1998 giving a shit about Need For Speed Most Wanted (2005) and Spiderman 2 (2004) or Space Cadet "Windows pinball game" (1995)
You could still have played all those games when you were 9. Basically every boy I knew had a ps2 and those games, or played pinball on their grandmas old computer or something. I’m born in 1998 so I know this I’m a leading expert on the subject
>I cannot imagine a child born in 1998 giving a shit about Need For Speed Most Wanted (2005) and Spiderman 2 (2004) or Space Cadet "Windows pinball game" (1995)
Again, I was born in 2000's. Played Halo 1, Mercenaries, Medal Of Honor, Timesplitters, etc
98 here, got my first console which was a gamecube in 04, played ssbm and spongebob bfbb like a b***h. get fricked.It also helps if you had older brothers because HAND ME DOWNS
Poor zoomers like me do. My parents were given an old dell computer by a friend and we didn't even have internet, I played 3D pinball all the time but never could figure minesweeper out, I grew up with a landline phone and VHS tapes until I was almost out of elementary school, wish I could go back.
When we're you born? Your childhood sounds a lot like mine. I remember my family getting internet shortly before I turned 11 so that I could keep up with studies.
That's like saying people born in 1988 didn't grow up on A Link to the Past. You are aware there is often a delay between the year something comes out and the year a lot of people get into it right?
>You are aware there is often a delay between the year something comes out and the year a lot of people get into it right?
Yeah, and that delay means they've missed the boat on playing the game in its proper cultural context. A zoomer playing Sonic Adventure 2 in 2008 has no frame of reference for where the game's place is in video game canon. This is fine, but staking some bizarre claim to a piece of media when you were still shitting yourself when it came out makes no sense.
'98 here, that particular vape is a Smok Alien with a TFV8 tank, that vape is at least 5 years out of date now, it's the kind of vape someone remembers if they started vaping before the juul craze or the current disposable vape craze, right before vaping went mainstream when it was mostly ex-smokers and gamer types. It's actually pretty spot on imo. I worked in a vape store back then and I saw the transition.
>inb4 demoralization shills go all GOYSLOP BUT 2000s OH YOU FRICKING IDIOT
You know damn well things back then were eons better than now. This is a fact. Yes, we all know they were running things even back then but at least they had the courtesy of camouflaging themselves and letting quality entertainment and a semblance of a healthy culture live on. The 2000's were the last gasp of SOVL.
yeah same, no internet or sky until i was a teenager
also i realized at some point i don't think i've seen anything but the first few seasons of the simpsons because that's all they used to play on repeat, so i don't even get most of the references from that
>born 2000 >don't recall any of my friends ever playing nintendo or gamecube >we were too young to be fans of linkin park, most kids liked Usher and Bruno Mars
Also, personally I never got into the vaping homosexualry, had an xbox instead of a PS2 and Black Ops 2 was literally the game that got me to stop playing CoD because it sucked so much. Me and my friends played way more Mw2
>Zoomers loved linkin park in 2010 as 10 year olds
Maybe if you were born in 1996, but like I said, born in 2000 and it literally wasn't on anyone's radar
Also, youtube AMVs and video game soundtracks? Half the boys in my school weren't even allowed to play video games, girls didn't really play video games yet and regular youtube use wasn't a huge thing yet
There'd be like one funny youtube video shared around for months in the school but no one was watching youtube as a hobby
>Half the boys in my school weren't even allowed to play video games
I hate to be the one to pull the rug from underneath your feet, but that wasn't a normal childhood.
It was a very typical thing around the time, CNN/Fox News were full blast with all the >VIDEO GAMES WILL TURN YOUR KIDS INTO SERIAL KILLERS
Stuff, and parents still raised their kids in very sheltered ways(i.e violence and sex LE BAD)
I was one of the few kids who played Dead Rising, GTA, etc. I used to sit at the lunch table describing games to the other kids and they'd be like >"WOAH, YOU CAN ACTUALLY KILL A ZOMBIE WITH A LAWNMOWER, THAT'S AWESOME "
>zoomers don't know about the 1990s moral panic of Doom and Mortal Kombat and Night Trap
>It was a very typical thing around the time
who was buying video games turning it into a trillion dollar industry if according to you half of everyone normal everywhere wasn't allowed to play video games?
>Half the boys in my school weren't even allowed to play video games
Yeah I'm with this
>Half the boys in my school weren't even allowed to play video games
I hate to be the one to pull the rug from underneath your feet, but that wasn't a normal childhood.
did you go to some private school or something
in central america
guy, unless you're Asian or something I've never heard of a kid being banned from video games unless it's temporary, like grounded for a week because he did something bad
>guy, unless you're Asian or something
I didn't know that one of their stereotypes was that they don't play video games? I thought it was just the opposite with Koreans and their MMOs and how Japanese are responsible for like 90% of all video game IPs
I'm with the other anon, I've loved Linkin Park ever since I first watched Transformers. Hybrid Theory was the debut album of a band that had just recently been associated with a franchise that was one of the biggest in the world with the movies alone bringing in stupid amounts of money from the box office alone
t. 2003 zoomer
Culture was much slower preadoption of modern internet (smartphone) era
I think this causes some confusion with 'generations' up to this point.
I'm '97, had/saw most of the stuff in the pic, had those Pokémon games, also had Red, Yellow, Gold and Emerald beforehand.
Owned a GBC, N64, GBA SP, DS, PS1, PS2, PS3 etc
Favorite cartoon was probably Avatar the Last Airbender, also watched the first few seasons of Pokémon, Beyblade, Dragon Ball/Z, Digimon
Another factor is how wealthy/poor your family is and also location. Most of my friends my age experienced this shit too, except the N64 and Game Boy Color
Maybe it's the refusal to like or know older stuff?
I could have just attributed it to the culture being slower instead of current things lasting less.
Talk to a teen about Vine and they'd have no idea what you're talking about for example.
>Talk to a teen about Vine and they'd have no idea what you're talking about for example.
bro
it's tik tok
how would a zoomer not know what this proto tik tok from 10 years ago is, just staring at it confused scratching their head like one of those videos of a 6 year old child trying to figure out a 1950s rotary phone
literally what's the difference? The fact that vine had a 30 second limit or whatever? perfect for the zoomer attention span where most tik toks are that long as well.
no, more that things are completely integrated into society at a normie level when it finally gets to the old people.
noone smart had the money for the early smartphones.
If you'd want the objective "Zillennial/2000s kid" start in terms of culture that could objectively be called ours? 2003-2005
If you were born in 98, you'd have been old enough to catch the start of shows like Teen Titans and TMNT by that point, the launch of the wii by 06'
So it's definitely in that time frame that "Zillennial" culture starts
>If you were born in 98, you'd have been old enough to catch the start of shows like Teen Titans and TMNT by that point, the launch of the wii by 06' >So it's definitely in that time frame that "Zillennial" culture starts
can you not entirely frame it within kids cartoon and kids video games
that's what I mean about "zillenials", they pretend to be le 2000s millenial when all they know is at most the second half of the decade as like 8-9 year olds.
talking shit like "oh there was nothing political back then, when I was 3-6 years old"
In that regard? We remember Bush's second election, though we were kids at the time, Obama's as well. I'd argue our first big political involvement was 2012
The problem is that the whole "Zillennial" term was coined more as a marketing thing.
The spending habits, social attitudes and such lining up more with Millennials than the later Gen Z groups
>The spending habits, social attitudes and such lining up more with Millennials than the later Gen Z groups
You're just making this up as you go along aren't you lol
sources on the "social attitudes and such"
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Anon, like I said, marketing term.
Things like dating habits shopping in-person vs online, spending habits and brand loyalty. These are all shown to be consistent to millennials.
The other issue is this. >The exact date range of this micro-generation is not specifically defined. Avery Hartmans, writing for Business Insider citing a study on U.S. consumers, defines a Zillennial as anyone born between 1990 and 2000.[18][19] Boston University sociologist Deborah Carr defines zillennials as those born "roughly" between 1992 and 2002.[20] Authors Hannah Ubl, Lisa Walden, and Debra Arbit define the cuspers as those born between 1992 and 1998, as does Mary Everett, writing for PopSugar[8] and Vogue.[2] A WGSN case study on the cohort similarly notes this date range.[4] Others have defined zillennials as those born from 1993 to 1998, including Deon Smit (HR Future),[14] Maisy Farren (Vice),[21] Lindsay Dogson (Business Insider Mexico),[22] and MetLife.[23] Ketchum defines GenZennials as those born from 1992 to 2000.[15] Fullscreen defines the cusp group as those born from approximately 1993 to 1999 in their research.[11] Author Mary Donahue defines the cuspers as those born from 1995 to 2000.[24]
There's no actual consensus to the age range whatsoever
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Bunch of dumbasses. Stick with Strauss and Howe -- one of whom even coined the fricking term Millennial.
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who cares its still abitrary
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who cares its still abitrary
Well, now you're getting into what no one in this thread gets about Zillenials. Namely that it isn't a denial that 95 onward is Gen Z. It's a reference to the cultural microcosm where the last Millennials and earliest Zoomers grew up more or less side-by-side resulting in cultural similarities between the two where neither entirely matches the rest of their respective generational grouping.
It's not even unique to Gen Z. They typically have a term for each of these microgenerations which tend to be useful for observing shifting paradigms between the two generations that the group belongs to. See;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xennials
staind was numetal it was more like emo for buttrock dudes who thought that slipknot was too crazy and edgy and something like hoobastank or puddle of mudd was the rockinest rock band ever
Another example of a band I can't ever enjoy the youtube comments of since 99% of the comments are just "dude my favorite song from this 2011 wrestling video game"
what is it about turning 25 that turns dudes into outstanding know it all individuals? It's just the worst of both words, the arrogance of youth and the confidence of adult age.
The absolute last year with any traces of 20th century influence left was 2012. 2013-2014 was already full on iPhone hell.
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>any traces of 20th century influence
my eyes are rolling in the back of my skull
especially when you probably think that like LMFAO is the best musical act ever.
If I'm way off mark then do tell what can be found in 2012 mainstream pop culture that has 20th century influence in it still
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2012 was the last year where less than half of the population had iPhones, which is the main reason I said it's the last year with traces of 20th century influence left. But aside from that I guess you could also argue it was the last year where neoliberal austerity was a dominant political force before everyone got polarized. Mitt Romney was the Republican candidate in 2012, now he's a "RINO." Obama's first term was generally more optimistic than his second term. The Tea Party foreshadowed the Trump era, but they were still kind of fringe and far-right figures like Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and Hannity were condemned by pretty much everyone whereas now right-wing politics are a contest to see how low people can stoop.
Kind of went on a tangent there but you get the point.
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>2012 was the last year where less than half of the population had iPhones
what was so magical about iphones vs blackberry
like yes you could go on facebook and twitter on your phone in 2012 which wowwee at the time sure. But anyone who was on those platforms was also on desktop already
2012 was the last year where less than half of the population had iPhones, which is the main reason I said it's the last year with traces of 20th century influence left. But aside from that I guess you could also argue it was the last year where neoliberal austerity was a dominant political force before everyone got polarized. Mitt Romney was the Republican candidate in 2012, now he's a "RINO." Obama's first term was generally more optimistic than his second term. The Tea Party foreshadowed the Trump era, but they were still kind of fringe and far-right figures like Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and Hannity were condemned by pretty much everyone whereas now right-wing politics are a contest to see how low people can stoop.
Kind of went on a tangent there but you get the point.
I don't even get what you anons are arguing about. In 2012 the oldest zoomers were schoolkids and the youngest were literally 2 years old. The oldest millennials were 32 and the youngest were graduating high school (one year ahead of the oldest zoomers).
Zoomers entering their mid 20s a couple of years ago is when the zoomer age began. Zoomers are now employed in "real" jobs, etc. This will build up to 2028 when the last born zoomer will become an adult and zoomer culture will peak (just as the millennial effect on culture peaked 10 years ago)
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>boomers had hippies >Gen Xers had heroin addicts >millennials had hipsters >zoomers have e-boys and e-girls
Can't wait to see what Gen Alpha will bring to the table
zoomers don't know about youtube, try to explain to them what youtube is and they won't understand. You have to be born in 98 to know what youtube is not that we know that it was back then either we were too busy doing grown up millenial things as 12 year olds in 2010.
No, I agree with him 2009 is a good place to draw the line. Bush was a terrible president, but his presidency definitely felt like a holdover from the 20th century IMO.
Zoomers are so ashamed of themselves that they have to keep lengthening the millennial birth period and making shit up like zillennial lmao can't wait for "the 10s were heckin s-ov'l game grumps were my real parents"
>lmao can't wait for "the 10s were heckin s-ov'l game grumps were my real parents"
I mean we've reached that point already.
The other day I saw what I thought was gonna be a comfy The Tester thread with all the funny meme guys like the screaming black man betty spaggheti belly of da beast etc maybe even some older season personalities like big phazeek and that one b***h with puik hair and glasses who was on every nerd show ever around that time
but no, it was all this zoomer autistic hyper focus on arina aka egoraptor and his funny game grumps moments oh boy zoomers don't know about jontron only us 25 year old boomers know about the jontron days
That world is gone anon. It is never coming back. If every smartphone was destroyed tomorrow we would just build them again. Even a nuclear holocaust would not erase the knowledge.
I want to see what happens if every government outlaws smartphones. I wonder what would happen. Probably a black market and a new FBI force dedicated to tracking smartphone users down.
The difference is that people would have digital cameras on them like it's 2005 and then upload their shit to their big fat desktop computer with a bunch of USB cables and then go to www. social media website dot com and upload their day there.
People would still be uploading videos of themselves of doing the zoomer steroid challenge in gyms, and more importanly incels will still be posting and playing video games.
protip: the internet is bad for you, but it's not smartphones and social media that ruined your life and created all these problems for you
most people with social media and smart phones are like "oh good, finally fun and easy ways to organize my friends and social events and see what everyone is up to" instead of talking about how the world ended sometime between 2004 and 2016 according to this thread.
Like absolutely the internet and modern technology is bad for you, but it's the parts of the internet and the technologies you love the most lol
no one forces you to Jack off to internet porn 5 times a day while other people are going on dates
is this millenial territory? i mean only bc you was born in 2000 doesn't make you part of some movement you'd have to be there and understand it and enjoy it
2005-2009 was awesome. That was when Youtube was in its prime and it was the last time music was still good. Probably the last great time to be a teen.
stop appropriating millennial culture, zoomie
Millennials didn't experience any of the stuff in that pic.
your b8 is stale and you shan’t be getting another (You) from me
He’s right though. If millennials experienced that stuff they were more like the 1994 millennials because I’m a zoomer and I remember almost everything from that picture
>millenials didn't experience things that came out during their teens
u w0t m8
All of that stuff came out when I was 10+. Someone born in 98 would barely have memories of it. The ps2 released in 2000, they would've been 2 years old.
>Someone born in 98 would barely have memories of it. The ps2 released in 2000, they would've been 2 years old.
That's what gets me about zoomshits. They will claim they totally remember shit form when they were in diapers, but apparently have no recollection of things they were actually old enough to experience.
>no bro trust meee I was totally playing gamecube from my crib you don't get it!!!!
At least own your zoomness you pathetic gays
You stupid zoomer Black person
>Drive (2011)
Obvious zoomer is obvious
Cope gramps. The 2000s was kino.
Don’t post the one with Smosh on it. The last thing I need is to sperg out and explain to Cinemaphile, once again, why its peak was undeniably in the 2000s and why its large audience of scene/emo girls in high school and college makes it a quintessentially millennial thing.
You were still in diapers when Hybrid Theory, Sonic Adventure 2, The GameCube, Shrek, and a lot of these other things were released. Stop attributing yourself to things that you didn't fully experience or were even aware of. If you can't remember 9/11, you're a zoomer. Simple as.
>implying things stop existing the year after they came out
The only thing I'll grant you is not our generation is Hybrid Theory, but Gamecube is ours. Everyone born in the mid-late 90s played it as a kid.
Just because you were 3 years old when those things came out doesn't mean that you actually experienced those things and the culture surrounding them. Compare that to millennials who were at the prime age during the heyday of those consoles. Same with the movies and TV shows listed that zoomers only probably experienced through re-runs.
Zoomers have more of a connection with the 360 and PlayStation 3, along with TV shows like Adventure Time and Steven Universe.
Anon, that's moronic. Imagine saying people born in 1981-1984 didn't experience the NES because they were babies when it came out.
Ok sure, hold on: I'll make a graphic for Gen X-ers and load it up with silent films from the 1920s because, after all, just because Gen X wasn't born yet doesn't mean they couldn't have grown up with them!
>comparing movies that came out decades before people were born with games that came out when someone was already alive and slightly too young to play them on release but were still relevant a few years later when they became old enough for them
Kek
It's an apt comparison. Plenty of very old films are still "relevant" today. If anything, video games become much less relevant much more quickly due to the nature of the medium. Speaking with a zoomer about video games is like talking to a capeshit moron about film. In the zoomers' case though, they simply do not have enough contextual knowledge to understand the medium to any meaningful degree. They were born too late, and they cope by pretending they were there to play these games when they were huge cultural phenomena. It's hilarious that zoomers trip over themselves to pretend to have really been there for the GameCube of all things; that's already SIX generations into home console tech.
People born 81-84 wouldn't have the same connection to NES because it wasn't marketed to them, SNES and PS1 was. You could have grown up reading Davey Crockett but it's not part of your generation
Holy shit, what a moronic thing to say. Super Mario Bros. 3 came out in 1990 and was a GIGANTIC hit. Are you telling me 6-9 year olds didn't experience that?
>People born 81-84 wouldn't have the same connection to NES because it wasn't marketed to them
my zoomer brother in christ and allah, the NES was sold up until 1995
I'm not part of this argument, but video games (certainly in the 90s and early 00s) were overwhelmingly marketed towards children.
For me when it's when someone talks about experience the 00s, but their entire experience of that decade was shitting in diapers and learning their abcs and then just kids cartoons and baby movies.
It's like when 98zoomers call themselves 90s kids.
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take your meds
>If you can't remember 9/11, you're a zoomer
This is the dumbest way to determine if you're a zoomer. There are people younger than me who can remember 9/11. I can't. I'm pretty sure my family didn't really give enough of a shit to even turn the TV on considering we are not American.
I've seen people on this site born as early as 92 who say they can't remember 9/11. Some people just have bad memories. A lot of people don't remember much of their childhoods anyway. I have a pretty good memory and even I don't remember as much of my childhood as I'd like to.
I remember 9/11. Was actually one of my first core memories. I was in a booster seat with the burning towers on tv & I was just eating my breakfest oblivious
>look up early 2000s pop-punk or nu-metal song on youtube
>expecting other millenials to be nostalgic about MTV and the warped out and how cool life was 20 years ago
>comments section is nothing but zoomers talking about how this song was their favorite on whatever 2009 video game soundtrack
>look up Everlong - Foo Fighters on youtube
>see comment talking about how zoomer and his friend bonded over Foo Fighters
>they both got into Foo Fighters through their Grandfathers
This has to be a psyop or something... right?
maybe if he comes from a cool family where most people get pregnant at 16 and his grandpa is like 45 50 years old.
or I guess if grandpa was already 45 50 years old in 1994 but he's always been a young soul and was a huge fan of Nirvana or something
at least it's not the usual nonsense of "My dad died from cancer after my best friend killed himself and grandma ran over the family dog, this song always reminds me of them" that floats to the top of you tube comments
This is just fricking sad, so glad I was born in the early 80's. Oh yeah, Drake and Drake and iCarly, man yall went hard LMMFAOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
>born in 80s
>still adopted zoomer nig speak
???
folks have been adopting black talk since the 1920s my dude
you don't jive with the new jazz talk my cool cat?
I’m schizoing again. Thanks a lot you fricking asswipe. You’re a piece of shit and I hate you.
You suck too.
>No Sabrina the Teenage Blonde Goddess
Frick off you worthless pile of fetid brown sludge
Out of all of the rappers and albums, you chose Rick Ross lmao
more like a millennial trying not to feel old
I cannot imagine a child born in 1998 giving a shit about Need For Speed Most Wanted (2005) and Spiderman 2 (2004) or Space Cadet "Windows pinball game" (1995)
I was born in 96 and played Spider-Man 2 and 3D Pinball on XP to death and I'm not the only one. So why not someone born two years later?
You could still have played all those games when you were 9. Basically every boy I knew had a ps2 and those games, or played pinball on their grandmas old computer or something. I’m born in 1998 so I know this I’m a leading expert on the subject
I had an Atari with the game Bezerk, but no one considers that part of being a 90s kid.
Probably because the Atari came out in the 80s. But the PS2 came out in the 2000s, so it's a part of being a 2000s kid.
>I cannot imagine a child born in 1998 giving a shit about Need For Speed Most Wanted (2005) and Spiderman 2 (2004) or Space Cadet "Windows pinball game" (1995)
Again, I was born in 2000's. Played Halo 1, Mercenaries, Medal Of Honor, Timesplitters, etc
Spiderman 2 was my childhood
98 here, got my first console which was a gamecube in 04, played ssbm and spongebob bfbb like a b***h. get fricked.It also helps if you had older brothers because HAND ME DOWNS
All a bunch of shit, and calling yourself a 'zillennial.' Just more zoomer suck.
I’m a zelder moomer zillenial as well. I had a Nintendo DS. I played RuneScape when I was 10 and it was still good
Zoomers now have nostalgia for that Purble Place game on Vista and have no idea how great 3D Pinball, Spider Solitaire, Hearts and Minesweeper were.
Poor zoomers like me do. My parents were given an old dell computer by a friend and we didn't even have internet, I played 3D pinball all the time but never could figure minesweeper out, I grew up with a landline phone and VHS tapes until I was almost out of elementary school, wish I could go back.
When we're you born? Your childhood sounds a lot like mine. I remember my family getting internet shortly before I turned 11 so that I could keep up with studies.
Born in 1997.
>'s
>was
Coping zoomer. Sonic Adventure 2 came out when you were three years old. THREE. You're at least a decade removed from its cultural context.
That's like saying people born in 1988 didn't grow up on A Link to the Past. You are aware there is often a delay between the year something comes out and the year a lot of people get into it right?
>You are aware there is often a delay between the year something comes out and the year a lot of people get into it right?
Yeah, and that delay means they've missed the boat on playing the game in its proper cultural context. A zoomer playing Sonic Adventure 2 in 2008 has no frame of reference for where the game's place is in video game canon. This is fine, but staking some bizarre claim to a piece of media when you were still shitting yourself when it came out makes no sense.
I was born in 97 and the only things that don't belong in that picture are vaping and the haircut
'98 here, that particular vape is a Smok Alien with a TFV8 tank, that vape is at least 5 years out of date now, it's the kind of vape someone remembers if they started vaping before the juul craze or the current disposable vape craze, right before vaping went mainstream when it was mostly ex-smokers and gamer types. It's actually pretty spot on imo. I worked in a vape store back then and I saw the transition.
>inb4 demoralization shills go all GOYSLOP BUT 2000s OH YOU FRICKING IDIOT
You know damn well things back then were eons better than now. This is a fact. Yes, we all know they were running things even back then but at least they had the courtesy of camouflaging themselves and letting quality entertainment and a semblance of a healthy culture live on. The 2000's were the last gasp of SOVL.
I was born in 1994 and mostly played PS1 games because we had a hacked one also I'm looking for gay zoomer boys to date hit me up
My parents didn't pay for cable so I cannot relate to a lot of this
Growing up my entertainment was British shows, the Simpsons and Futurama
yeah same, no internet or sky until i was a teenager
also i realized at some point i don't think i've seen anything but the first few seasons of the simpsons because that's all they used to play on repeat, so i don't even get most of the references from that
I hate these stupid fricking threads
The stupid fricking generational divide
And the fact that there was nothing, NOTHING I could do to stop it.
The thing I couldn’t stop I meant something different.
Whatever time traveler we’re on to you.
The concept of generations like 'boomers' and 'millennials' is just an arbitrary israeli divide-and-conquer tactic.
YOU NASTY FRICKING prostitute. YOU ABUSIVE FRICKING prostitute. YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE DOING THE WHOLE TIME AND YOU’RE PROUD OF IT. FRICK, YOU.
No! I wasn't even alive, you gay moron!
10/10
Nice quints. That turd reminds me of her and what she did to him.
>these data harvesting threads are still being allowed
Don't you have enough, Jay?
>born 2000
>don't recall any of my friends ever playing nintendo or gamecube
>we were too young to be fans of linkin park, most kids liked Usher and Bruno Mars
Also, personally I never got into the vaping homosexualry, had an xbox instead of a PS2 and Black Ops 2 was literally the game that got me to stop playing CoD because it sucked so much. Me and my friends played way more Mw2
Zoomers loved linkin park in 2010 as 10 year olds when they were on the transformers soundtrack and in youtube AMVs and enough video game soundtrack.
But yeah it certainly wouldn't be their 1999 debut album that's their favorite. Probably Meteora or some shit.
>Zoomers loved linkin park in 2010 as 10 year olds
Maybe if you were born in 1996, but like I said, born in 2000 and it literally wasn't on anyone's radar
Also, youtube AMVs and video game soundtracks? Half the boys in my school weren't even allowed to play video games, girls didn't really play video games yet and regular youtube use wasn't a huge thing yet
There'd be like one funny youtube video shared around for months in the school but no one was watching youtube as a hobby
>Half the boys in my school weren't even allowed to play video games
I hate to be the one to pull the rug from underneath your feet, but that wasn't a normal childhood.
did you go to some private school or something
in central america
I grew up in fricking Chicago you moron
It was a very typical thing around the time, CNN/Fox News were full blast with all the
>VIDEO GAMES WILL TURN YOUR KIDS INTO SERIAL KILLERS
Stuff, and parents still raised their kids in very sheltered ways(i.e violence and sex LE BAD)
I was one of the few kids who played Dead Rising, GTA, etc. I used to sit at the lunch table describing games to the other kids and they'd be like
>"WOAH, YOU CAN ACTUALLY KILL A ZOMBIE WITH A LAWNMOWER, THAT'S AWESOME "
>zoomers don't know about the 1990s moral panic of Doom and Mortal Kombat and Night Trap
>It was a very typical thing around the time
who was buying video games turning it into a trillion dollar industry if according to you half of everyone normal everywhere wasn't allowed to play video games?
>Half the boys in my school weren't even allowed to play video games
Yeah I'm with this
guy, unless you're Asian or something I've never heard of a kid being banned from video games unless it's temporary, like grounded for a week because he did something bad
>guy, unless you're Asian or something
I didn't know that one of their stereotypes was that they don't play video games? I thought it was just the opposite with Koreans and their MMOs and how Japanese are responsible for like 90% of all video game IPs
Most of my school was White, Italian and black kids
I'm with the other anon, I've loved Linkin Park ever since I first watched Transformers. Hybrid Theory was the debut album of a band that had just recently been associated with a franchise that was one of the biggest in the world with the movies alone bringing in stupid amounts of money from the box office alone
t. 2003 zoomer
Linkin Park was huge long before Transformers came out
Of course, but the point is my generation was largely introduced to it through the franchise
There's nothing interesting from the 2000s in that pic. So many better shows were going on, and the best you have is Drake and Josh.
I'm surprised Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero aren't in OPs pic, those were huge
Culture was much slower preadoption of modern internet (smartphone) era
I think this causes some confusion with 'generations' up to this point.
I'm '97, had/saw most of the stuff in the pic, had those Pokémon games, also had Red, Yellow, Gold and Emerald beforehand.
Owned a GBC, N64, GBA SP, DS, PS1, PS2, PS3 etc
Favorite cartoon was probably Avatar the Last Airbender, also watched the first few seasons of Pokémon, Beyblade, Dragon Ball/Z, Digimon
Another factor is how wealthy/poor your family is and also location. Most of my friends my age experienced this shit too, except the N64 and Game Boy Color
>Culture was much slower preadoption of modern internet (smartphone) era
and what year would this be
The adoption of the smart phone, when it had high market share...?
You know Twitter, MySpace, Bebo, Facebook, YouTube changing and so on.
are you sure that it wasn't maybe culture felt slower because you were no older than 10 years old at the time?
Nah I agree with him, the mass adoption of smart phones made it so trends evolved and died quicker.
>trends evolved and died quicker.
like what
it's not like 2004 myspace emo or 1999 MTV nu-metal mallgoth hot topic cultures lasted 25-40 years
Maybe it's the refusal to like or know older stuff?
I could have just attributed it to the culture being slower instead of current things lasting less.
Talk to a teen about Vine and they'd have no idea what you're talking about for example.
>Talk to a teen about Vine and they'd have no idea what you're talking about for example.
bro
it's tik tok
how would a zoomer not know what this proto tik tok from 10 years ago is, just staring at it confused scratching their head like one of those videos of a 6 year old child trying to figure out a 1950s rotary phone
literally what's the difference? The fact that vine had a 30 second limit or whatever? perfect for the zoomer attention span where most tik toks are that long as well.
everyone always says 07, but smartphones were kinda shit until around 2012.
social media didn't get mass old people adoption until 2013
>social media didn't get mass old people adoption until 2013
you think it's old people who drive culture? Online especially?
no, more that things are completely integrated into society at a normie level when it finally gets to the old people.
noone smart had the money for the early smartphones.
If you'd want the objective "Zillennial/2000s kid" start in terms of culture that could objectively be called ours? 2003-2005
If you were born in 98, you'd have been old enough to catch the start of shows like Teen Titans and TMNT by that point, the launch of the wii by 06'
So it's definitely in that time frame that "Zillennial" culture starts
>If you were born in 98, you'd have been old enough to catch the start of shows like Teen Titans and TMNT by that point, the launch of the wii by 06'
>So it's definitely in that time frame that "Zillennial" culture starts
can you not entirely frame it within kids cartoon and kids video games
that's what I mean about "zillenials", they pretend to be le 2000s millenial when all they know is at most the second half of the decade as like 8-9 year olds.
talking shit like "oh there was nothing political back then, when I was 3-6 years old"
>bruh I miss when things werent so woke and political
>I miss the 2000s ^
zoomers are so ignorant
In that regard? We remember Bush's second election, though we were kids at the time, Obama's as well. I'd argue our first big political involvement was 2012
The problem is that the whole "Zillennial" term was coined more as a marketing thing.
The spending habits, social attitudes and such lining up more with Millennials than the later Gen Z groups
>The spending habits, social attitudes and such lining up more with Millennials than the later Gen Z groups
You're just making this up as you go along aren't you lol
sources on the "social attitudes and such"
Anon, like I said, marketing term.
Things like dating habits shopping in-person vs online, spending habits and brand loyalty. These are all shown to be consistent to millennials.
The other issue is this.
>The exact date range of this micro-generation is not specifically defined. Avery Hartmans, writing for Business Insider citing a study on U.S. consumers, defines a Zillennial as anyone born between 1990 and 2000.[18][19] Boston University sociologist Deborah Carr defines zillennials as those born "roughly" between 1992 and 2002.[20] Authors Hannah Ubl, Lisa Walden, and Debra Arbit define the cuspers as those born between 1992 and 1998, as does Mary Everett, writing for PopSugar[8] and Vogue.[2] A WGSN case study on the cohort similarly notes this date range.[4] Others have defined zillennials as those born from 1993 to 1998, including Deon Smit (HR Future),[14] Maisy Farren (Vice),[21] Lindsay Dogson (Business Insider Mexico),[22] and MetLife.[23] Ketchum defines GenZennials as those born from 1992 to 2000.[15] Fullscreen defines the cusp group as those born from approximately 1993 to 1999 in their research.[11] Author Mary Donahue defines the cuspers as those born from 1995 to 2000.[24]
There's no actual consensus to the age range whatsoever
Bunch of dumbasses. Stick with Strauss and Howe -- one of whom even coined the fricking term Millennial.
who cares its still abitrary
Well, now you're getting into what no one in this thread gets about Zillenials. Namely that it isn't a denial that 95 onward is Gen Z. It's a reference to the cultural microcosm where the last Millennials and earliest Zoomers grew up more or less side-by-side resulting in cultural similarities between the two where neither entirely matches the rest of their respective generational grouping.
It's not even unique to Gen Z. They typically have a term for each of these microgenerations which tend to be useful for observing shifting paradigms between the two generations that the group belongs to. See;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xennials
SHUT THE FRICK UP
ALL OF YOU ARE COMPLETE c**tS
EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THIS THREAD IS A COMPLETE c**t
>born during peak western civilization
i feel bad for zoomers born post 2000
>tfw experienced the end of it
PAIN
I DO NOT SAY DOPE EVER SHUT THE FRICK UP
98 chads, rise up!
did hybrid theory come out in 98? the zoomies parents probably banged to awful numetal. at least to staind
Staind was good. I don't know what you're on.
>awful numetal. at least to staind
staind was numetal it was more like emo for buttrock dudes who thought that slipknot was too crazy and edgy and something like hoobastank or puddle of mudd was the rockinest rock band ever
>staind was numetal
*wasn't
d00d mUdVaYnE
Another example of a band I can't ever enjoy the youtube comments of since 99% of the comments are just "dude my favorite song from this 2011 wrestling video game"
I’m sorry YouTube comments on 20 year old numetal bands biggest song disappointed you.
I have standards, even for youtube comments
Compared to places like Tik Tok or Reddit, etc, I’ve grown to really appreciate the relative sanity found in many YouTube comment sections.
>98ers are LE UNIQUE GENERATION
what is it about turning 25 that turns dudes into outstanding know it all individuals? It's just the worst of both words, the arrogance of youth and the confidence of adult age.
98 ers are wienery because they narrowly escaped the millennial era where nobody worked out and everyone gorged on slop
people are fatter than ever, actually.
and now you have all the zoomers on tik tok trading steroids with each other, taking dick pills at 19
No, they're Millennials. Gen Z is purely 21st-century and no amount of self-hating Millennials will change that.
millenials means someone who was coming of age around the turn of the new millennium
not someone who was born two minutes before the turn of the new millennium
The millennium actually ended in 2009 when iPhones and Twitter became big.
*2014
The absolute last year with any traces of 20th century influence left was 2012. 2013-2014 was already full on iPhone hell.
>any traces of 20th century influence
my eyes are rolling in the back of my skull
especially when you probably think that like LMFAO is the best musical act ever.
If I'm way off mark then do tell what can be found in 2012 mainstream pop culture that has 20th century influence in it still
2012 was the last year where less than half of the population had iPhones, which is the main reason I said it's the last year with traces of 20th century influence left. But aside from that I guess you could also argue it was the last year where neoliberal austerity was a dominant political force before everyone got polarized. Mitt Romney was the Republican candidate in 2012, now he's a "RINO." Obama's first term was generally more optimistic than his second term. The Tea Party foreshadowed the Trump era, but they were still kind of fringe and far-right figures like Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and Hannity were condemned by pretty much everyone whereas now right-wing politics are a contest to see how low people can stoop.
Kind of went on a tangent there but you get the point.
>2012 was the last year where less than half of the population had iPhones
what was so magical about iphones vs blackberry
like yes you could go on facebook and twitter on your phone in 2012 which wowwee at the time sure. But anyone who was on those platforms was also on desktop already
I don't even get what you anons are arguing about. In 2012 the oldest zoomers were schoolkids and the youngest were literally 2 years old. The oldest millennials were 32 and the youngest were graduating high school (one year ahead of the oldest zoomers).
Zoomers entering their mid 20s a couple of years ago is when the zoomer age began. Zoomers are now employed in "real" jobs, etc. This will build up to 2028 when the last born zoomer will become an adult and zoomer culture will peak (just as the millennial effect on culture peaked 10 years ago)
>boomers had hippies
>Gen Xers had heroin addicts
>millennials had hipsters
>zoomers have e-boys and e-girls
Can't wait to see what Gen Alpha will bring to the table
zoomers have zoomers
Hey is anyone else weirdly craving Panda Express right now?
>Last great decade for tv
>It’s all npc games and gay nu metal shit
Not really helping your case there bud
All that shit sucked
zoomers don't know about youtube, try to explain to them what youtube is and they won't understand. You have to be born in 98 to know what youtube is not that we know that it was back then either we were too busy doing grown up millenial things as 12 year olds in 2010.
WHY CAN THIS THREAD NOT BE PRUNED OR DELETED? I JUST WANT SOME FRICKING PANDA EXPRESS
2009 was the last of the 20th cen
2001
No, I agree with him 2009 is a good place to draw the line. Bush was a terrible president, but his presidency definitely felt like a holdover from the 20th century IMO.
The 2000s literally began with bush and not Clinton’s VP.
>that boomer-ass 90s kid millenial who was 1 and half years old on y2k and graduated high school in 2017
Zoomers are so ashamed of themselves that they have to keep lengthening the millennial birth period and making shit up like zillennial lmao can't wait for "the 10s were heckin s-ov'l game grumps were my real parents"
>lmao can't wait for "the 10s were heckin s-ov'l game grumps were my real parents"
I mean we've reached that point already.
The other day I saw what I thought was gonna be a comfy The Tester thread with all the funny meme guys like the screaming black man betty spaggheti belly of da beast etc maybe even some older season personalities like big phazeek and that one b***h with puik hair and glasses who was on every nerd show ever around that time
but no, it was all this zoomer autistic hyper focus on arina aka egoraptor and his funny game grumps moments oh boy zoomers don't know about jontron only us 25 year old boomers know about the jontron days
I wish we could live in a world without smartphones and social media again
That world is gone anon. It is never coming back. If every smartphone was destroyed tomorrow we would just build them again. Even a nuclear holocaust would not erase the knowledge.
>It is never coming back
Who knows. Maybe one day time travel to the past will be a thing.
I want to see what happens if every government outlaws smartphones. I wonder what would happen. Probably a black market and a new FBI force dedicated to tracking smartphone users down.
The world would be virtually exactly the same.
The difference is that people would have digital cameras on them like it's 2005 and then upload their shit to their big fat desktop computer with a bunch of USB cables and then go to www. social media website dot com and upload their day there.
People would still be uploading videos of themselves of doing the zoomer steroid challenge in gyms, and more importanly incels will still be posting and playing video games.
Literally me
protip: the internet is bad for you, but it's not smartphones and social media that ruined your life and created all these problems for you
most people with social media and smart phones are like "oh good, finally fun and easy ways to organize my friends and social events and see what everyone is up to" instead of talking about how the world ended sometime between 2004 and 2016 according to this thread.
Like absolutely the internet and modern technology is bad for you, but it's the parts of the internet and the technologies you love the most lol
no one forces you to Jack off to internet porn 5 times a day while other people are going on dates
>Im a janny on Cinemaphile
i remember when people thought having a blackberry was a big deal.
is this millenial territory? i mean only bc you was born in 2000 doesn't make you part of some movement you'd have to be there and understand it and enjoy it
>is this millenial territory?
yea almost all of it
>Sonic Adventure 2
Good times. Except I only played the original Dreamcast version back in 2001.
2000s was the last great era for anything
No smartphones
No women on the internet
Can do outrageous and dumb shit in public without worrying it will be captured forever
Videogames were peak SOVL
Internet was peak SOVL with no/little government interference
>You will never play RuneScape in 2005 again
Soulless zoomer NPC's will never understand. They just parrot words like "bruh" and follow tik tok fashion lmao. Truly sad
>No women on the internet
MySpace and Neopets say otherwise
I'll never watch star trek enterprise with my dad ever again
Only 2000-2004 was great. 2005-2009 sucked.
2005-2009 was awesome. That was when Youtube was in its prime and it was the last time music was still good. Probably the last great time to be a teen.
>"last great time to be a teen"
>coincidentally the time when you were a teen
funny how that works